|View Poll Results: Best Joe Leader?|
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|05-31-2008, 11:14 AM||#41|
Health Educator for ARBCO
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mt Morris, MI
C'mon, it's gotta be Hawk. The man will never die, how many bullets has this man taken? One in the chest, one in the back? Cheney could shoot him in the face while hunting and he'd still save the day.
|05-31-2008, 11:33 AM||#42|
Join Date: Oct 2007
In my fair and biased opinion, Flint. All day long.
|05-31-2008, 11:42 AM||#43|
has been warned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
The question is kind of vague.
Best leader to lead the whole Joe Team: Hawk
Best Leader to lead a mission: maybe Flint
Best leader to get captured: Duke
Best Leader to lead latrine duty: Grunt
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|05-31-2008, 11:48 AM||#44|
Sunsword = Fabulous!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, ME
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|05-31-2008, 01:10 PM||#45|
Resolute = Awesome
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
My 25th Most Wanted List:
1. Tunnel Rat <-CHECK! 2. General Hawk (v2)<-CHECK! 3. Leatherneck <-CHECK(kinda...)
4. Jinx 5. Dusty <-CHECK! 6. Snow Serpent <-CHECK! 7. Tele-Viper <-CHECK(kinda...)
8. Falcon<-CHECK (kinda...) 9. Footloose <-CHECK! 10. Recondo <-CHECK!
9 down, 1 to go ~ but i really want a new Leatherneck and Falcon
|06-09-2008, 03:14 PM||#46|
E pur si muove!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oh, for...!
In the first comic book I ever read front to back as a child, I watched Hawk outsmart the upper US brass, then I watched his team run down a HISS tank carrying Cobra Commander and Destro (driven by Dr. Venom).
Does Hawk call for them to pull over? Does he order shots fired?
Hawk leaps from one moving vehicle to the next and begins hammering CC THROUGH his metal mask with his bare knuckles. Hawk beat CC delerious, and THEN went to work on Destro (who had a metal mask AND metal knuckles).
This was a pitched battle with neither man giving ground until CC woke up and shot Hawk three times in the back at point-blank range with a Luger.
Hawk then FELL from a moving vehicle onto the pavement headfirst.
In the very next issue, Hawk re-apprehended Major Bludd from his Hospital bed, and then several issues later went on to apprehend Scar-Face by (again) leaping from a moving vehicle onto the back of a tank and clubbing him with a wrench.
Okay, so there are a few of you saying that this was the 'old days" and that Hawk was washed up by the time Duke and Flint came aboard.
During the Cobra Island Civil War, Hawk was snatched by the Dreadnoks FROM a moving vehicle. He ultimately proved too hard to handle and they let him loose.
Hawk is the ultimate, undisputed BEST leader on the team. He ranks so high he doesn't HAVE to get shot at, but he still goes out and puts himself in the line of fire.
Looking back at the DDP run of comics, it's almost as though someone was making a list of my favorite characters and finding ways to screw them up. Specifically, they cut off Hawk's balls and then left him in a corner and never did anything with him. I won't even go into the others.
And yeah, Stalker was the man in the feild until Duke (who Larry Hama has referred to in interviews as "an afterthought") was shoehorned into continuity to act as the posterboy for the cartoon.
Also, I know a lot of you guys prefer niftiness to truth, but the fact is that Flint outranks Duke. So does Cutter, Ace, Wild Bill, Torpedo, Steeler and a host of others. For that matter, Leatherneck, Shipwreck, Gung-Ho and a host of others all outrank Beachhead. I'm not about to sit down and reread every filecard right now, but I think when all is said and done, Duke is like, 30th in command. (Not that I would ever talk that way to a First Sergeant).
So anyway, my point here is that Hawk rocks. Flint wore a beret and Duke fought Conan in an arena.
Some of us know Joe from comics, THEN cartoons. Some of us, vice-versa. A HUGE number of us only know the cartoons. (Who the eff is RAMPART?) There's even a few who were introduced through Sigma 6. (Heavy Duty is a classical guitarist btw) Many of the younger peeps here who HAVE read comics have only been exposed to the Devil's Due stuff.
Not to get too far off on the tangent, but I felt like DDP never really knew what to do with the characters. They knew the cartoon history and had at least grazed over the Marvel run (except for Brandon Jerwa who I am certain knew his stuff) and then they just went to work writing generic soap operas, rehashing old plots and jamming GI Joe characters into the various roles. The whole thing was very little style OR substance until the end. Even through America's Elite there has been a lot of build-up and hype for pathetically little payoff.
All of the characters, especially Hawk, deserved better.
Oh, and for those of you who can barely remember Duke from the old comics, it's because he was part of the ensemble there. His parts were brief but colorful with a distinctly Drill Instuctor (R. Lee Ermey) flavor.
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Last edited by Omegawrath; 06-09-2008 at 03:18 PM..
|06-10-2008, 02:27 PM||#47|
Join Date: Mar 2008
i had to go with duke since..while i did think flint was cool...duke just seemed more of a natural. OF course i always thought Falcon deserved more..especialy since he outranked is his brother duke, but i guess thats just me :> allin all duke was my top choice with falcon running a close second :> Now comic wise hawk was the shiznit like omega wrath said but as kid i didnt read much of the comic and was mainly into the cartoon. I didnt get into the comic till well after its initial run and yeah in the comics by marvel hawk was a kick ass and take names kinda guy :>
Last edited by Griff; 06-10-2008 at 02:31 PM..
|06-10-2008, 03:07 PM||#48|
Flint by a long shot for me...
I always liked his demeanor and tactics...
+1 more for the ole beret wearing warrant officer!
|06-10-2008, 04:35 PM||#49|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northern Mississippi
|06-10-2008, 09:01 PM||#50|
The Mouth of Doom!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Area
Old Skool - Hawk
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