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09-22-2010, 07:05 PM | #21 |
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Ha! That's pretty nice. I gotta check this after work.
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09-22-2010, 07:06 PM | #22 |
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yeah i'm still trying to figure out at what point someone can "volunteer" or be "volunteered" to be a crimson guard
or if they aren't pulled from the ranks at all and are recruited separately...which would make sense given their story |
09-23-2010, 01:28 AM | #23 |
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I commend you on your work. I'll share what I've done. You can take what you will from it.
Presently, I only collect 25th-ME stuff, but I'm pretty familiar with RAH stuff. I can extrapolate pre-VIPers. I figure your average guy off the street starts out as a blue shirt. My 5 man squads have 1 Officer, 1 RPG trooper, 1 SAW Trooper, and 2 rifleman Troopers. Mainly because my shelves only hold 5 deep, but if parts permitted, one of the rifleman or a 6th man would be a radioman Trooper. Besides environment, any step up would be new equipment, whether it is weaponry or vehicle. Your basic blue trooper could opt for: wheeled vehicle mechanic (Cobra Flint appearance) then Stinger driver then Motor Viper then Techno Viper Viper Glider pilot then Night Vulture then Air Devil, H.I.S.S. Gunner, H.I.S.S. Gunner (Target blue H.I.S.S. driver trainee), volunteer for the Python Patrol Project or a new proficiency. or...environmental blue Officer grade squad leader Your basic blue officer could opt for: Stinger Commander F.A.N.G. pilot then Heli-Viper then Gyro Viper, H.I.S.S. Gunner (Target blue H.I.S.S. driver trainee), H.I.S.S. driver then Track Viper, then Nitro Viper, then W.O.R.M.s, volunteer for the Python Patrol Project or...environmental or a new proficiency. All pre-VIPer Officers with proper skills can transfer to environmental Officer. I have a Nightwatch squad, whose officers are ranked higher than a blue. Nightwatch troopers are higher than a blue. I have a jungle squad, whose officers are ranked higher than a blue. Jungle troopers are higher than a blue. I have a desert squad, whose officers are ranked higher than a blue. Desert troopers are higher than a blue. Desert Officers, Jungle Officers, and Nightwatch Officers are on equal footing. Same for equal special weapons troopers. Any of those infantry Troopers could get VIPer traing to be a veteran equivalent, or regular VIPer, and then wiuth more specialized training be promoted to (in alphabetical order): Alley Viper, Flak Viper, Frag Viper, H.E.A.T. Viper, Incinerator, Range Viper, Rock Viper, SAW Viper, Tele-Viper, or a new proficiency. Any Jungle trooper can get VIPer training to become a Jungle Viper. Any Desert trooper can get VIPer training to become a Desert Scorpion. Any Nightwatch trooper can get VIPer training to become a Night Viper. I believe Cobra Air Trooper, is a HALO qualified officer, and an A.V.A.C. trainee. I believe COBRA Trooper (v11) is a precursor to Frag Viper. I believe COBRA Trooper (v12) is a precursor to Incinerator. I believe COBRA Trooper (v13) is a precursor to Toxo Viper. I believe Viper (v18) is a precursor to SAW Viper. I see it along the lines with Zuludelta, if Cobra recruits veterans, those guys can almost skip to their new assignment. If a guy was a Ranger, Marine, Delta, or something, you're not gonna start him at the absolute bottom, are you? VIPers being entry level for veterans "earning" their VIPer helmet, in that way. I see Toxo-Vipers, Sludge Vipers and Swamp Vipers as demerit duty for regular VIPers. While being a Desert Scorpion is a promotion for a desert trooper with VIPer training, it is also a demit post for VIPers. Arctic H.I.S.S. drivers must complete HALO & Snow Serpent training. Water troops, go a whole sideline route. The average guy off the street, or former blue trooper, starts as a Swamp Viper (Water Moccasin crew, half land/half water training, shallow water boat skills), to Eel, and up. If a guy was a Navy S.E.A.L. based on experience or clearance, he will start as the basic red diver. Next step on path 1 goes to Eel, to Lamprey, to Sub Viper, to Aqua Viper Officer. Next step on path 2 goes to Eel, to Sea Slug, Decimator, to Secto Viper. Next step on path 3 goes to Eel, to Para-Viper, to Snow Serpent, Snow Serpent Officer, to Ice Viper. I'll do the air and space force when I have more time.
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09-23-2010, 01:38 AM | #24 |
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That's amazing!
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09-23-2010, 01:41 AM | #25 |
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wow.
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09-23-2010, 02:22 AM | #26 |
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Can I get a copy of this? What program did you use? I would like to use this to organize my Cobra troops- I am thinking of using a number system for each 'troop' class. I also want to do this to number all of the Cobra vehicles. I will do something similar with the JOES and their vehicles. Nice job on the chart!!
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09-23-2010, 02:46 AM | #27 |
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So when does this go into effect and where can you sign up? Sounds like there could be good medical benefits and 401K potential with this company...at a minimum a good investment opportunity to grow ones portfolio
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09-23-2010, 12:34 PM | #28 |
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@Octane
i can agree with most of what you've said...and in my own toyverse some of it applies. Recruited veterans for me have to go through "basic training" and get their blue shirt...they have to learn the "cobra way" which although could be learned along the way...however i think it's better that everyone be standardized so that expectations are made clear early on...in my world viper training is like ranger school...not everyone goes...because not everyone has to. a cobra officer (grey mask) doesn't have to be viper qualified...so any soldier who becomes viper qualified will then go back to their unit specialized and ready to further advance in training...anyone who is viper qualified and transfers to the vipers would be akin to a ranger who transfers to a ranger battalion. I'm adding Crimson Guard/Shadow Guard/Immortals and this should make for some interesting talk...as it's based on the filecards the question i am attempting to answer is "are crimson guards chosen from the vipers?" |
09-23-2010, 01:05 PM | #29 |
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I deliberately left Crimson Guards out, because I didn't know exactly how to handle them.
Some could come up through the ranks, but more possibly: I was thinking, maybe chosen from Ivy League ROTC programs? BTW, I neglected to meantion the H.I.S.S. Commanders and Rip-It. H.I.S.S. Commanders are in charge of each 3 tank unit and Rip-It is just an individual one with a code name.
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09-23-2010, 01:13 PM | #30 |
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