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09-09-2011, 02:29 AM | #1981 |
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I would say that Trucial Abysmia and Col. Sharif's country are 2 separate nations, given how they were portrayed in the comics. As to LH's writing, I agree he's very underrated. I've read his work on NthMan and Wolverine, and it's great stuff. I particularly like the Wolvie story where he is in a New York zoo late at night and discovers some of the animals are being abused by a night custodian. He give the jerk a very fitting punishment for his misdeeds. I find that, for me, it's deeper than just the stories he writes. It's more about his philosophy. I've taken many of his "lessons" to heart and try to apply them to my life. One of the big ones I use a lot, and was having this conversation with my partner at work tonight, was "We take care of our own in this outfit." It pops up frequently in the comics, and on Lifeline's filecard, at the very least. Others for me would be, "My word is my bond", and "Doing the right thing even when no one's looking". Yes, I've read nearly every Joe comic to date, but the ones that aren't written by LH just aren't the same to me. They just feel like they're missing something. Not sure if it's just me, or if others feel that way as well. Anyways, keep up the good work, Zulu. Can't wait to see what you pull out of your sleeve next.
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09-09-2011, 02:33 AM | #1982 |
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09-09-2011, 01:35 PM | #1983 |
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Thinking about it more, Colonel Sharif's country, while obviously a Libya stand-in, also seemed to incorporate elements of Lebanon (Sharif's nation is described as "somewhere in the Middle East," Libya is in North Africa). And the name of the leader of the anti-Sharif "Royalist" resistance, Professor Gamal, sounds suspiciously like the name of the founder of Lebanon's Kataeb Party (a.k.a. The Phalange), Sheikh Pierre Gamayel, who, while not a professor, was a trained pharmacologist (Gamayel associate, the philosopher Charles Malik, was frequently referred to as "The Professor" though, seeing as how he had an astounding 63 honorary doctorate degrees from all over the world). The thing that limits the Lebanon comparison is that the Phalange was not a "royalist" movement (although at least nominally, the monarchy in neighboring Jordan supported the Phalange and its allies because of its opposition to the PLO during the Lebanese Civil War). By contrast, Trucial Abysmia seemed more like a composite of a number of African and West Asian countries (Libya and the Somali Democratic Republic, and later, Iraq). I haven't worked out in detail how to deal with those two settings in the project's "alternate history," though... will probably need more time to work it out. Thanks! |
10-04-2011, 02:45 AM | #1984 |
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Revised my Zap image so that his face is at least partially visible:
Flash was a bit of a challenge. I really wanted to keep the "laser trooper" aspect of the character but wasn't sure how to do it. In the end, I think I'll have to make him into a fire support specialist, as they're the only real "laser troopers" in the Army (since they use laser rangefinders/target designators): Gave him an AN/PAQ-1 laser/infrared rangefinder/designator. These devices didn't start appearing in publicly released images until the mid/late-1980s, but they've been in use since at least 1980 (the oldest AN/PAQ-1 manual I've found is dated 1980), so in terms of time period-accuracy, it works. Recently finished reading Joe Kubert's excellent Dong Xoai, Vietnam 1965, an illustrated book retelling the wartime exploits of the 5th Special Forces Group's Detachment A-342 (as related firsthand to Kubert by the detachment's surviving members). It's a good read, despite some inaccuracies from the otherwise solid senior Kubert: the few errors relate to the depiction of weapons, mostly, I guess he reverted to "Sgt. Rock mode" in some of his illustrations... while the text describes the members of the detachment as using ".30 caliber battle rifles," (most likely M1 Garands and M14s given the period), the paired drawing will instead have them using .45 caliber Thompson submachine guns (a Sgt. Rock and Our Army at War staple). The book also sheds light on how Special Forces detachments were manned back then, almost two decades before "Special Forces Sergeant" became an actual MOS. Back then, SF soldiers retained their original MOSes (most of them were either infantrymen or medics) after completing SF training, and there wasn't a strict rank requirement: the most junior member of Detachment A-342 was a private first class (an E-3). This helps explain why Hama wrote in Breaker's filecard that he was a member of Project GAMMA (a Vietnam War-era Special Forces Activity) despite being just an E-4. Hama, being a Vietnam vet, probably assumed when he wrote Breaker's filecard in 1980/1981 that SF was still taking soldiers below the pay-grade of E-4, like they were doing back in the 1960s. |
10-07-2011, 02:50 PM | #1985 |
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As always, you manage to come up with some very interesting information. And your rendering of the original Joe team continues to look very impressive. Can't wait to see the whole team.
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10-09-2011, 02:53 PM | #1986 |
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Looking good, z.
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12-03-2011, 11:30 PM | #1987 |
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Haven't seen any action in this thread in a while - just letting you know some us are still interested.
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12-05-2011, 01:21 PM | #1988 |
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Agreed, mb.
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12-05-2011, 11:38 PM | #1989 |
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I'll third that. I love this thread, and I can't wait to see more.
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01-04-2012, 11:53 PM | #1990 |
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the input and feedback and conversations regarding the project.
I guess my heart just isn't in the project, anymore. When I started this (two? three years ago?), I was labouring under the mistaken notion that GI Joe needed "fixing." I had grown older, and it seemed natural to me that one of the favourite things from my childhood should grow up with me, and if Hasbro or Devil's Due or IDW or whoever didn't want to prod GI Joe's maturation along, I would do it myself for myself and whoever else was willing to come along for the ride. But I've come to the personal realization that GI Joe was a thing of its time, intended for an audience of a certain age and inclination. My growing dissatisfaction with the project, and GI Joe (the property) as a whole, wasn't the result of GI Joe being mishandled or broken... it was really frustration born out of my inability to accept that GI Joe at its core is, to use Hasbro's term, a "boy's toy," and the things I wanted to see in it—the organizational authenticity, the historicity—would never seamlessly jibe with something designed as a boy's toy first (it would require too many changes, I feel, to the point that I might as well be working with original creations). All that being said, I'm still very much into the idea of crafting conceptual military/paramilitary organizations and personnel and compositing what they would look like... but these are original ideas and concepts, and without the GI Joe tie-in, I don't know if any HISStankers outside of myself would be interested in them, so for now, they're just ideas and sketches in my "notebook," so to speak. |
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