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02-23-2010, 03:13 AM | #1021 |
W.O.R.M.S. Commander
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I think you can combine the Balkans Conflict with GWOT just to give a few of the older Joes more experience. Guys like Colton and Austin and Savage and Duke (Maybe even Stalker) can come in from Somalia, as it takes close to twenty years to hit some of the higher ranks. Is Wet Down a WO-5 in you Joe Org? He would be another. As well as Wild Bill and Mainframe, Spirit, as guys who left and maybe returned.
Oh yeah Jinx looks good too! |
02-23-2010, 01:46 PM | #1022 |
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Yeah, I think Colton and Austin are definitely old enough to have been active duty Captains or even Majors during Operation Gothic Serpent. Duke and Stalker... I'm not so sure. I've always thought of them as "fast movers," making senior NCO as close as possible to the minimum time-in-service and time-in-grade requirements.
One other change I instituted from a couple of weeks ago was changing the focus of the Joint Special Operations Task Force component of GIJOE from Direct Action to Armed Reconnaissance. It'll require some re-jiggering of the organisational structure yet again, but it won't nearly be as drastic as previous changes. Instead of a Direct Action Element loosely based on airborne light infantry company structure, I'll be putting the combatant Joes in an Armed Reconnaissance Element loosely patterned after a reduced Marine Force Reconnaissance Company composed of a headquarters platoon, two direct action platoons, two deep reconnaissance platoons, and a scout sniper squad. Not sure where I'm going to put the mortar guys but I'm sure I'll figure something out that's based on precedent. |
02-23-2010, 03:32 PM | #1023 |
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Cap badge looks awesome and as realistic as always. LOVING the updates to Falcon, Jinx and Wild Bill. Sounds like you're on the right path as far as the history goes. Glad you see Duke and Stalker as fast movers and not old war horses. I think I'm going to like the reorganization of the Direct Action force. I'm assuming the weapons platoon (sans mortar) will be integrated into the current direct action platoon to get your two platoons under the new structure and the covering force becomes the deep recon platoons? Either way, sounds fun. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
Sorry for the late reply, but my nine year old dog Jack (the world's most awesome Malinios) died. :( I've been really bummed out so I'm glad I at least have new zulu goodness to look forward to. |
02-23-2010, 03:52 PM | #1024 |
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Sorry to hear about your dog. My condolences. I haven't owned a dog in years but I remember how bad I felt when our dog died twelve years ago.
And yeah, you're pretty much on point with how I'm re-arranging the Direct Action Element and turning it into an Armed Reconnaissance Element. I've always preferred how Force Recon and the NAVSPECWAR organise their special operations-capable units... seems more agile to me, so I'm going to enjoy re-working the roster arangements. Last edited by zuludelta; 02-23-2010 at 04:00 PM.. |
02-23-2010, 04:21 PM | #1025 |
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Condolences on your dog. I'm still sad over the death of the beagle we had when I was growing up, we had to put her down when I was 18, almost 1/2 a lifetime ago and still miss the ol' puppy.
I miss having a dog and have been seriously thinking about getting one.
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02-24-2010, 03:01 AM | #1026 |
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Sorry about your dog MT, they really become part of the family.
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02-24-2010, 05:22 PM | #1027 |
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MT, my condolences on your dog as well. I've never owned a dog, but I've had some beloved cats die, so I have an idea what it's like. Zulu, love the 3 updates, they're all awesome. I was thinking about your "pop culture" reference to Black Hawk Down, and I remembered how, when I first saw the movie, the soundtrack took me back to my waning wayward days of college. Had I joined the military instead, I might have been there with others my age fighting a battle in the desert, instead of tossing back frosty cold adult beverages.
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02-24-2010, 05:32 PM | #1028 |
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Blackhawk Down made me want to join the Army.
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02-24-2010, 08:10 PM | #1029 |
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I was thinking about your "pop culture" reference to Black Hawk Down, and I remembered how, when I first saw the movie, the soundtrack took me back to my waning wayward days of college. Had I joined the military instead, I might have been there with others my age fighting a battle in the desert, instead of tossing back frosty cold adult beverages.
Anyway, the film was a real public relations coup for the Army, considering how it probably resulted in more than a few young men wanting to sign up for the military. But you could make the argument that the events of the Battle of Mogadishu were a blatant example of the incompetence of senior military leadership resulting in the deaths of some of the best and brightest young men the enlisted community had to offer. Actually, you don't even have to make the argument since retired 82nd Airborne captain John T. Reed (West Point, 1968; Ranger School, 1968) already makes the argument in the article entitled The Morality of Obeying Stupid Orders: Quote:
A decision by General William F. Garrison to capture some of Somali warlord Mohamed Farah Aidid's subordinates in a broad daylight operation resulted in two Black Hawk helicopters shot down over Mogadishu, three others damaged and 18 American soldiers and one Malaysian soldier killed in action with another 81 soldiers wounded and one taken prisoner. While the operation achieved its objective of taking Aidid's lieutenants, it effectively cemented the status of the 'nation building' force as enemies of the Somalian people. The event itself can be seen as a consequence of an earlier and greater blunder on July 12th, when US Cobra gunships attacked what was believed to be a meeting of Habar Gidir military figures discussing further attacks on UN forces, resulting in the deaths of 73 Habar Gidir elders who had in fact been meeting to discuss Aidid's removal as clan leader.
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Ranger training prepared us to do ambushes, tiny hit-and-run combat operations, and reconnaissance patrols in enemy-infested areas as long as the weather was warm, there were no dogs, the population was sparse, and we had lots of thick vegetation to hide in by day. In the case of non-reconnaissance missions, we also need a way to be extracted quickly after we attack. If the patrol lasts more than a few days, we also need a way to be resupplied with food and water during the patrol.
In any other situation, Rangers are just ordinary infantry with stronger motivation. You cannot, for example, drop Rangers onto the top of a building in densely-populated Mogadishu in broad daylight and expect them to survive or accomplish a difficult mission. Rangers were not trained to do that that. Nor could they have been. It was a suicide mission no matter who was assigned it and no special training could change that... ... The “label” on U.S. Army Ranger School graduates would be that they are effective at executing small combat and reconnaissance operations in a dogless, warm, thickly-vegetated, sparsely-populated, remote environment. You could add the precise details of their training like 8 hours or whatever of rappelling training, etc. Dropping Rangers onto the roof of a building in downtown Mogadishu was an “off-label” use of Rangers. Off-label uses, like that one, generally result in the mission not being accomplished and many of the Rangers being killed or wounded. The Army, media, and Hollywood need to stick to the label when describing Rangers and their training. Current and past hype is causing them to be used off-label, which is an extremely questionable and dangerous decision. |
02-24-2010, 08:12 PM | #1030 |
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It was actually the sense of brotherhood and "no one gets left behind" that is what drew me.
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