Thanks for the comments so far. Nothing new to report except for... I just picked up a complete on off of e-bay last night! It has all the door, the tail door and the two masts. I know, I know, crazy right? What to do with the second one now? Well for starters, I figure I can mold and cast the missing doors for the first one along with the masts. After that, I am not sure. I could just put it back on e-bay, I could make do the modifications on both of these and sell the first one on e-bay, OR I can make a Cobra Sub out of it. What do you guys think? Now for some Q&A:
Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101
Your going to do it up in tiger force colors for the real "Tiger Sharc" effect?
A: I have no intention to do any Tiger Force paint jobs for this project. Never got the idea behind it back in the '80s and could not stand the yellow colors on a military vehicle. I am removing the shark mouth and eyes stickers and just keeping the name of the boat, in keeping with Naval ship naming traditions (Some US subs names were sea animals like "Seawolf").
Originally Posted by lardman
I wonder how easy it would be to make the sub both playable in the dry (e.g. add the interior details) as well as in a pool (close off and flood the interior and just use the outside - make it float and even have variable buoyancy so it could dive).
I really do need a pool....
A: I have no clue where to begin something like that. I am not planning on using this in the water. The toy is marked on the bottom as "Not a Water Toy". Mostly because of the electronics of the toy prevent it from safely used in the water. I would imagine studying a water RC model sub mechanics and designs would be in order to be able to addapt it to this toy's conversion. Plus, I do not have a pool either
Originally Posted by dpstro
can't wait to see how this turns out. I hope if you do go tiger force you will do in the colors of a real tiger shark. I hate that bright yellow....nothing tactical about that at all.
A: I have to agree with you about the bright yellow used in the Tiger Force vehicles, just would not happen in the real world, tactically. Two of my favorite sub movies are "The Hunt for Red October" and "Crimson Tide". Just two great military movies, so naturally I want to bring that to my Joe verse. The question for me is wether I should leave the toy black or paint the bottom half red(the side that is below water line when the sub is surfased). On a side note, I have seen some model kit builders do a tiger stipe pattern on the sub kits, does anyone know if this done on real life subs?
Originally Posted by jpdraven
To EXTEND THIS and make it longer you could use 4 inch PVC Pipe or smaller, depending on the Sub size. In the section you extend you can build living quarters and bridge, maybe engine and torpedo room as well.
I dont know the actual diameter of this sub so I can't guide you to specifics, only brainstorm ideas.
IF done correctly with the bonding process of the sections this could be killer, AND if you elongate with the pvc you can precut the top so it easy can come on and off.
IF the bottom of this sub is flat that shouldnt be an issue to even out the bottom of the pvc so it too is "flat"
I think you're on to something good here too.
A: I was not planning on cutting this up and making it longer, the scale fits in line with the USS Flagg toy. I would like to one day have a dio with all these ships together forming a Carrier Strike Group (CSG). Like most of Hasbro's Joe toys, they are not true 1:18th scale. They are just big enough to fit figures into for play value. I would imagine the sub would need to be the same length of the toy Flagg in order to house all the key parts of the sub for interaction with the figures. But adding 4 to 5 more inches making it 3.5 ft long is not too bad. That added section could be where the Nukes could be stored, seeing that they were not included with this toy.
The diameter of the sub is 7 inches.
Ok folks, thats about it for now. I hope to do some sketches soon with the current sub in hand as the model. One thing I will say, I did get an extra Polar Shark sub toy over the weekend. I opened it and held it up next to the sub. The Tiger Shark is long enogh that the Polar Shark can "ride" on it like in the movie, just not double stacked like in the 3D model, but you could fit 4 around the back side of the boat. For now, I can use this loose one as a docking sub and piggyback behind the sail. I will try and get some pics up tonight. Stay tuned folks for more updates.
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