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04-06-2010, 05:51 AM | #831 |
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L and U channel flashing comes in different thicknesses as well. It's cheap, STRONG as hell for your needs, customizable, and CLEAN looking, and will add stability to your design without sacrificing looks. AND when this is painted it's going to be one of those small details that makes it look that much more "navy yard built" when it's all said n done. Helpful mounting tip... MAYBE you should use very very small bolts with flush heads, and try to mimic rivets just like what ya see on ships. How do you do this? EASY. Let's say you use the U shaped channel aluminum..... Say the piece you need is a foot long. Every inch or half inch you drill a hole for your SMALL flush mount bolts. Now think how that's gonna look PAINTED.... it's gonna mimic a rivet system down the entire "beam" just like in real shipbuilding. You can run 2 lines if you want, one on the OUTER art of you "beam" and on on the inner going from top to bottom. Now it looks like it's been really riveted to the ship, like it always belonged there. Granted ships would have MORE rivets but that's ok, this is to symbolize rivets not be dead on accurate, it's just a neat esthetically pleasing additive that's also 100% FUNCTIONAL to the design, strength, and integrity of the elevator. Test this theory I'll bet you 10 bucks if done with small enough Flat head flush mount bolts OR even slightly bubbled bolt heads you'll be VERY VERY pleased. REMEMBER you need SMALL ASS BOLTS!! This design will also DRAMATICALLY reduce bend and or warping in the foam walls when weight and pressure is applied from the elevator from planes being on it!! Last edited by jpdraven; 04-06-2010 at 06:08 AM.. |
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04-07-2010, 07:46 PM | #834 |
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This one might take a few entries. I decided to get an elevator built come hell or high water. So, I rolled up my sleeves and got to work. It was time to put my design into some realistic practice. First up was drilling all the matching holes.
My [fairly] new drill press is a godsend. But, because I was so excited to finally see my elevator, I mis-drilled one of the holes. Oh, well, after a bit of grinding, it fit through the holes I made in the hull. This is when I quickly ran into my first problem. The bolts I was using would not allow me to slide the elevator up or down at a certain position, since the bolt or nut has to be directly along the rail to secure it into place. I felt that omitting them for now would be fine, just to see what kind of sag we were dealing with when under load. I have to say that I'm glad I got to see the first elevator together because the next ones will be less exciting (not that this one was incredibly overwhelming). The reason that's good is because in my haste to drill holes and make this thing, I mis-drilled a good many holes. The elevator support brace (meant to hold both arms of the elevator together) was a mess. I drilled them so that arms were too close together, meaning that when one wheel was in the rail, the other was not. What I ended up doing was cutting the very end of the hole, making it adjustable out or in. So, without further adieu, I give you the elevator! Don't every comment at once... I hope that wasn't too underwhelming. Continued...
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04-07-2010, 07:52 PM | #835 |
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At first, this looks like a rousing success, but at closer inspection, there are many problems that still need fixing. First off, the sagging is very noticeable. VERY noticeable.
I know it doesn't look like a bunch, but it transfers further down the cantilever: I'm not exaggerating that. I adjusted the elevator to be level with the support struts. The biggest problem here is that, while the F-18 doesn't weight an immense amount, it weighs enough to pull the railing away from the hull. Aluminum is funny that way, being so good with the strength and flexibility, but not rigidity. That's why aircraft make ample use of it. Stiff airplanes have a tendency to snap under incredibly dynamic forces. Aluminum helps this. But enough with the aeronautics, I felt that placing the upper supports would help this problem, which it did. Continued...
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04-07-2010, 07:56 PM | #836 |
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one question hope u can answer
how big is the carrier?? twice the flag ? becuase for what i see is a holly damn kraken |
04-07-2010, 07:59 PM | #837 |
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Viola!
Problem semi-fixed. This was the semi-solution: The reason I say semi-solution is because the nut is still in the way of the track for the elevator. So, unless I make it a rivet, the elevator won't be able to run smoothly along the full range of the rail. But does it really have to? I got thinking about this and realized I was still designing this elevator under the old idea that this elevator would be motorized. Well, it's not anymore, so maybe this isn't a big deal. Maybe the only positions this thing will ever be seen in is up and down. That is a distinct possibility. The day has been eventful, frustrating, and ultimately satisfying. It's good to finally make some progress on the elevator and finally see a working elevator. There are still some kinks to work out. The elevator does not go up or down very easily, and it's getting very crowded at the juncture between the rail and the elevator arms. But all in all, it turned out very nice. Close to the design, but still full of corrections. Once we iron out the little problems, I think this design will be solid and aesthetic. And that's the ultimate goal. Go ahead and give yourselves a high-5... you deserve it, fellas!
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04-07-2010, 08:01 PM | #838 |
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16 feet long and 6 feet wide at the widest part of her flight deck.
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04-07-2010, 08:48 PM | #839 |
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wow i been keep an eye on this thread though i have posted much in it.
i am highly impressed with it all and the working elevator is fantastic
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04-07-2010, 08:52 PM | #840 |
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Nice work on the elevator, glad you were able to correct that sagging problem. It would have drove me nuts too. (if I were making one these)
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