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08-23-2008, 04:04 PM | #1 |
Hog Driver
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I admit, I'm a stickler for realism. I like films like Black Hawk Down and Band of Brothers because they illustrate war in a gritty, confused, non-romantic light while focusing on the people and the harsh reality of combat. Granted, I don't expect that degree of realism from comics and some suspension of disbelief is required, but I always get irritated when the imagination gets stretched into absurdity. Take one of the new comic pack issues for example. In issue #9 "Explosive Thoughts," a gigantic missile gets lodged in a stasis field over the Joe HQ and Tripwire attempts to deactivate it. The concept is so far-fetched that it simply loses my interest, never mind the fact that stasis fields seem more appropriate in a Star Wars setting (probably why I didn't like the old Joe toons as much; the laser guns and the fact that no one died was distracting).
Why not just tell a story of the Joes getting pinned down under Cobra fire out in the field and a smart bomb gets dropped nearby but doesn't explode and Tripwire is called upon to disarm it. This is more plausible, convinces the readers, and doesn't require silly antics. Secondly, why is Cobra so moronic? The fact that Dr Mindbender builds CC an exploding helmet makes them seem so ridiculous that the story never builds suspense--it's just art on a page with no plot. Is it really that difficult to make them intelligent, cunning, resourceful and dangerous. I like it when the bad guys win sometimes. Anyway, just thought I'd start with that... I'll have a few more comments about past comic stories that did have the kind of realism that I like and some that didn't. |
08-23-2008, 04:07 PM | #2 |
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the great thing about GI JOE is that it can be interpreted both ways-fantasy/sci fi or gritty/realism...and enjoy it both ways
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08-23-2008, 04:11 PM | #3 |
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Because kids don't wanna play with action figures from a depressing movie.
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08-23-2008, 04:13 PM | #4 |
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I think the comics in the comic packs are supposed to be silly and light hearted for the kids. Hama has the ability to write some pretty mature stories.
I like a good mix of reality and fantasy. Basically if there is a fantasy element, give a realistic explanation of why it can happen.
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08-23-2008, 04:54 PM | #5 |
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i think your missing the point of comics, its supposed to be surreal. otherwise your just reading a history book on war... i think most people, including kids, get that... my dad used to tell me the story about how he used to walk 2 miles up hill both ways to get to school ...Why??? ... because a story about him walking a block on a nice day is boring...
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08-23-2008, 04:57 PM | #6 |
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08-24-2008, 08:06 PM | #7 |
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08-24-2008, 08:11 PM | #8 |
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lol nicely done.
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08-24-2008, 09:01 PM | #9 |
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Realism where someone gets killed or at least shot in every issue. Cobra soldier fodder if nothing else. I like where resolute is going. Did you see Snake Eyes twist his sword in that guys back? I loved it!
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08-24-2008, 09:25 PM | #10 |
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Yeah, there's a line. The original Joe series by Hama was good, and well-balanced between realism and fantasy. Subsequent issues by DD were more realistic, and well done. The new Hama stories seem to lack something. Less substance, maybe? Not as well thought out? And the Tripwire/CC issue was more like the cartoon series than the comic.
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