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07-17-2008, 10:07 AM | #1 |
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Granted, you would have had carte blanche to do what you wished..
I would have had SS die saving SE.. CC would have killed Colton while taking a shotgun blast from Flint... There would have been some severe casualties but America would have won via the might of right that is Joe. |
07-17-2008, 11:42 AM | #2 |
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Well the issue was ok but definitely rushed. IMHO the final fight should have taken place over at least the last three to four issues
What would I have changed? Off the top of my head right now? First of all I would have the SE Firefly fight be a whole helluva lot longer. In fact I would even have had Firefly get taken out by Zartan as a way of making up for past mistakes. Second, I would have had CC killed because even though he was captured and he's 20 leagues below the sea it doesn't really end the fight until he's 6 feet under. I would had more action and fighting...more vehicles please!!! And for the end I would have that group photo at the end issue to show all the Joes off again especially since the President gave them full reinstatement with no restrictions or red tape. There's other things I would have done, but that's all I can think of right now. |
07-17-2008, 12:55 PM | #3 |
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Battle would have been longer. While I like Zartan, I would never have had him switch sides, so it could be SE vs FF and SS vs Zartan. I would have had Shipwreck, Recondo, Scrap Iron, Colton, Copperhead and Bludd die. CC would have been captured by Hawk, Interrogator woud ahve had a larger role, but above all-----
The art wouldn't have sucked! |
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07-17-2008, 05:33 PM | #4 |
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I would have had Snake Eyes barely able to beat Firefly. The battle would be personal, with Firefly using a lot of explosives and nearly killing Snake Eyes. In a blind rage Snake Eyes goes after Firefly with his swords and gets injured in the process after Firefly tosses a bunch of explosive towards him. See, Firefly killed Ophelia, Snake Eyes' apprentice, so in addition to the bad blood from their history in the Hamaverse, Firefly's antics have definitely hit close to home. Once Firefly's explosives run out, he runs away and tries going hand to hand with Snake Eyes. After kicking Snake Eyes off him, Snake Eyes runs after him, jumps, and stabs him in the back, planting his sword into the ground, thus impaling him. Snake Eyes removes the pin from one of his grenades, as Firefly looks up, the moisture turning to vapor, and rising up from his mouth. Snake Eyes drops the grenade, near Firefly's face, then jumps away. Firefly dies seconds later in an explosion. Ophelia is avenged, Cobra's top saboteur is now dead, and the Arashikage are one step closer to eliminating those who wrongly infiltrated their clan.
Storm Shadow would fight with Zartan, Zartan would use bow and and arrows, Storm Shadow would discard his own bow and arrows, pull out his sword, and kill Zartan. Zartan would then thank Storm Shadow for finally cleansing him of his sins, and apologize for everything he put him through. This battle would also prove that while Storm Shadow is not the better swordsman compared to Snake Eyes, and not the better archer compared to Zartan, he is the better swordsman than Zartan and shows how far revenge can push someone. With this battle ended, the path of vengeance sought by Storm Shadow finally ends, and a wrong becomes a right. Hard Master is avenged, Storm Shadow's long term goal is complete, and he can finally lead a life of peace. Cobra Commander would try to kill Storm Shadow but Snake Eyes would push Storm Shadow out of the way and stab Cobra Commander with his sword, finally ending the cycle of violence that started Cobra. With leadership steadily falling apart, the joes would slowly advance on Cobra. Destro would dismantle M.A.R.S. to speed up the end, and pull his own troops out as well as ATHENA. The Dreadknoks would bail out of the battle with Zartan's corpse. A few nukes do go off with a good number of the joe team dying, primarily the tech specialists sent to disarm them. The joe team rushes to contain the radiation, Cobra eventually falls, and Hawk disbands the team, saying that once containment is done, retirement will commence. With T'jbang still in recovery, Storm Shadow pays a visit to Nunchuk, and starts giving him more training(speaking of which where the hell was that guy?). Snake Eyes finally marries Scarlett. Shipwreck marries Covergirl. With Storm Shadow older, as well as Snake Eyes, Kamakura ends up being mentored by Nunchuk. Duke goes back home to his dad, and with gijoe done, and with no war to fight, they have nothing to fight about. Hawk goes into extensive rehabilitation and a few years later regains the ability to walk. Under conditions of a truce, M.A.R.S. on the surface has stopped weapons development but starts focusing efforts on high speed reconnaissance aircraft and delivery systems*knowing full well these delivery systems can include weaponry, not just satellites*. |
07-17-2008, 06:06 PM | #5 |
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I like the story of SS dying for Snake Eyes, its very poetic + shows us how Storm Shadow has always tried to be there for Snake Eyes, and even when he failed in the past, he made it up to him
For me, things need to go to hell. And fast - if you notice one thing about the GI Joe world, its that evil is always getting stronger. Evil guys like Cobra have no problems when it is time to exploit their fellow man in evil experiments, slavery, and imprisonment. The common man is battling his brother in the homefront and rapidly joining Cobra. That isnt our world, remember, its GI Joe vs Cobra. This is literally Civil War 2. Look in the cartoons, by the last few eps, things looked like crap. Headhunters were freely running the street, they owned the city with lasers and drugs. Cobra has now a massive army and GI Joe is pretty much the frontline of everything (with loyal, courageous green shirts around them) The regular world and GI Joe need to be different, since the story traditionally seems to be leading into something big. Even when the guys at ole Hasbro one upped everything with GI JOE Extreme, the world was bleaker after our Gi Joe RAH series. I say, Cobra loses, but with great expense to our country. That leads way into Iron KLAW troops and all that which follows up our modern GI Joe. Set the stage to fit it all in at once So, CC loses, a lot of Joes die, and eventually Cobra folds under massive pressure with a lot of criminals being captured and turning on each other (another theme that occurs very often) Snake Eyes marries Scarlett, Flint and Duke lead the Joes and train the new guys, and everyone who lives sees the world around them change. Finally, terrorism tightens its grasp on America, courtesy of Cobra Com. busting the door down on America's liberties and way of Life His final Legacy
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07-17-2008, 10:10 PM | #6 |
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I liked a lot of Shin's ideas. I also would have preferred a longer final battle or at least be able to have told who was fighting who. I wouldn't have had Billy die. Get hurt, yeah, but not die. Colton could have died by CC's hand and then let CC get killed by Flint or Duke.
The biggest thing I would have done would have been to 'borrow' an artist (like Epting) from someone else and had the art done. |
07-18-2008, 06:29 PM | #7 |
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The biggest thing I would have done would have been to 'borrow' an artist (like Epting) from someone else and had the art done.
OR Bryan Hitch! |
07-18-2008, 06:52 PM | #8 |
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CC would have killed Colton. There would have been a nice long fight between FF and SE, with Scarlett getting critically injured by FF in the process. SE would kill FF.
Bludd would have been killed by Recondo somewhere in there too. |
07-18-2008, 07:16 PM | #9 |
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Neal Adams would have been good but I like Steve Epting the best right now.
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07-18-2008, 08:17 PM | #10 |
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Shin perfectly summed up a much better resolution to the whole SE,SS,CC,Zartan,FF history, what we were given in regards to those story lines was just lame.
I'm not usually one to hate but I've got to say I feel a little disapointed with the apparent rush job on wrapping up the lives of these characters I've been following for most of my life. By the way, where the hell was Beachhead during all of this, I don't feel like going back thru all 12 parts to find the one panel they threw him in, ducking for cover, or something else equally lame. For GI Joe's final story arc the Joe's supposed 4th in command gets relegated to less than supporting character status, way to go. Enough bitching, how would I have ended it? I would have had the balls to end with a massive cliff hanger. Now some would say that a cliffhanger would be a disservice to the fans, I think it's no more so than the reboot we're getting this fall. At least with a cliff hanger there would be hope that maybe someday I'll get to see the characters I grew up with continue on. |
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