Mass Effect 3

[Talisman]

Well, the teaser pic hit about a month ago, the official trailer debuted last Saturday, and now BioWare/EA and GameStop are sending out the announcement/pre-order emails. So, since no one else has started a thread, I feel it is time for us to discuss the culmination of Commander Shepard's epic journey.


So, without further ado, Mass Effect 3: Let's discuss.

[MeLikeJinx]

I'm just happy PS3 is gonna get ME2 next month... and using the ME3 game engine no less and have all the bells and whistles too.

[Immortal_Joker]

just started playing through ME1 again, damn i love this series!! BLESS YOU BIOWARE!!! -salute-

[Monkeywrench]

I never played 1 or 2. I will most likely pick up #2 when it comes to the PS3

[Talisman]

New in from the Escapist, via GameInformer (minor spoilers ahead):





The Escapist : News : Cerberus Gears Up in First Mass Effect 3 Screenshots (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109428-Cerberus-Gears-Up-in-First-Mass-Effect-3-Screenshots)


Gee, Cerberus turns on Shepard. I never saw THAT coming.

[Steelgrave]

SHIT! I was just going to start a Mass Effect 3 thread & I saw yours before the page loaded.


Anyway, I'm looking forward to the 12 page spread in Mays Game Informer. I can't wait for this game.

First 2 Mass Effect 3 Screens Released (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Mass-Effect-Action-RPG-commander-Shepard-Cerberus-Illusive-man,12634.html)



I think Cerberus should only turn on Shepard if you blew up the Collector ship. The Illusive Man brought you back to protect humanity, not just take out the Collectors. So if you handed over the Collector ship why would the Illusive Man turn on you? That doesn't make any sense. He was only pissed off at you if you blew it up.

[Talisman]

SHIT! I was just going to start a Mass Effect 3 thread & I saw yours before the page loaded.


Anyway, I'm looking forward to the 12 page spread in Mays Game Informer. I can't wait for this game.

First 2 Mass Effect 3 Screens Released (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Mass-Effect-Action-RPG-commander-Shepard-Cerberus-Illusive-man,12634.html)

What I find interesting is that the armor those Cerberus goons are wearing looks like the downloadable Cerberus Assault Armor and are wielding what appears to be Eviscerator shotguns.

[Steelgrave]

I just read the Gameinformer article & ME3 sounds like it's gonna be beyond awesome.

WEARELEGION.nl || Dutch Mass Effect Fan-Base (http://wearelegion.nl/me3article.html)

I feel sorry for anybody that misses out on these 3 games.

[Steelgrave]

This is definitely NOT the place to discuss video games. There's like only 2 or 3 of us ME fans on here. If we want to talk about Mass Effect we need to stick to the Bioware forums.

[Talisman]

This is definitely NOT the place to discuss video games. There's like only 2 or 3 of us ME fans on here. If we want to talk about Mass Effect we need to stick to the Bioware forums.

You never know. Could be a few sleepers around here.

[ThunderKatt740]

I didn't know that they were that close to releasing 3. I can't wait.

[rsg]

ME3 has been pushed back to early 2012, most likely within the first 3 months of the year

SOURCE:
Mass Effect 3 Delayed Until 2012 - News - www.GameInformer.com (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/04/mass-effect-3-delayed-until-2012.aspx)

[GI Flow]

You never know. Could be a few sleepers around here.

I've whooped 1 and 2. lookin forward to 3

[pig iron grenadier]

I'd rather it get delayed and be aweeeesssoommmeeeee.

[Alyosha]

I am waiting anxiously. I was given ME2 for the PS3 and it's great. Bought all the DLC and costume/weapon packs and most of the were worth it.

I wish I could have played ME1, but I refuse to go XBox.

BTW, go Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew!

[Talisman]

ME3 has been pushed back to early 2012, most likely within the first 3 months of the year

SOURCE:
Mass Effect 3 Delayed Until 2012 - News - www.GameInformer.com (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/04/mass-effect-3-delayed-until-2012.aspx)

That's fine. Gives me more time to enjoy the other releases of the year and grab the inevitable ME2: Ultimate/GOTY Edition.

I am waiting anxiously. I was given ME2 for the PS3 and it's great. Bought all the DLC and costume/weapon packs and most of the were worth it.

I wish I could have played ME1, but I refuse to go XBox.

BTW, go Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew!

Aly, I don't mean to pry, but any chance we'll see some Mass Effect bits pop up on Broken Arrow? Because that would kick ass.

[pig iron grenadier]

Yeah..Liara, Shepard, and Tali heads. That would be awesome.

[Talisman]

http://www.jeuxcapt.com/upload/module_images/1305296289_Ashley_1_scan_Mass_Effect_3.jpg

My my... Ashley, how you've changed.

[pig iron grenadier]

meow.......well, I'll be seeing her..Kaidan is dead in all 20+ versions of my 2 game playthroughs.

[pig iron grenadier]

Carth whines too much so Kaidan had to die......

[Talisman]

meow.......well, I'll be seeing her..Kaidan is dead in all 20+ versions of my 2 game playthroughs.

I'm glad I romanced Ash in the first game and stayed loyal on my Soldier/Soldier playthrough.

Had to resist her on my Vanguard/Vanguard playthrough, though. Must... Have... Tali...

Carth whines too much so Kaidan had to die......

I'd rather have Kaidan than Jacob. I mean Jake's cool and all, but between the two... I'll just take the Carth stand-in. I liked Carth. He's cool when he doesn't whine, like bow ties.

[RandomViper117]

I am very, very, very, very, very, VERY happy I decided to remain faithful to Ashley on my main playthrough. Ashely looks REALLY good once she lets her hair down.

[Talisman]

Well, for those of you who are unaware, Mass Effect: Genesis, the interactive comic that allows you to make the major choices from the first game to carry over into 2 and 3, hit the Xbox/Windows LIVE marketplace last week. The damage is about 320 points, roughly $4 USD, if my math is correct.

While the PlayStation still gets it free.

/angryface

[Jmacq1]

So, it's actually ME2 related but did anyone see and/or use the Mass Effect: Genesis thing yet?

It's a pretty awesome idea: It's an interactive "comic-book" that lets you basically do "Choose your own adventure" with the major decisions of Mass Effect 1. It then generates a savegame that you can import into Mass Effect 2.

Basically, it lets you set up a more "tailored" Mass Effect 2 without having to do an entire playthrough of Mass Effect 1.

[pig iron grenadier]

Mass Effect 1 is the 2nd most awesome game ever though.....

[Jmacq1]

Mass Effect 1 is the 2nd most awesome game ever though.....

Oh, it is totally awesome, don't get me wrong, but sometimes you don't have time to do another "complete" runthrough of the game. It's a great game, but it's also a long one.

[Talisman]

Oh, it is totally awesome, don't get me wrong, but sometimes you don't have time to do another "complete" runthrough of the game. It's a great game, but it's also a long one.

Especially if you do everything... EVERYTHING.

[Jmacq1]

Especially if you do everything... EVERYTHING.

Yeah, and being the way I am, I can't play through the game without collecting every mineral and artifact and doing every single side-mission. Otherwise I feel like I didn't play the "complete" story.

I know you can actually breeze through the "main storyline" pretty darn quickly if you want, though.

[Talisman]

Yeah, and being the way I am, I can't play through the game without collecting every mineral and artifact and doing every single side-mission. Otherwise I feel like I didn't play the "complete" story.

I know you can actually breeze through the "main storyline" pretty darn quickly if you want, though.

I always get the feeling that missing out on a sidequest is going to come back and bite me in the ass later in the trilogy.

For example: I believe that Conrad is going to be back in 3 after actually LISTENING to ParaShep, and is either leading a resistance or doing everything he can to get more people to Shepard's side.

That lady who takes over that criminal organization/becomes social worker after "persuading" her could prove to be very important.

And so on.

[Jmacq1]

So I tried the "Genesis" thing last night. It kicks in right after the Normandy's destruction, but only if you haven't already imported a save. Takes about fifteen minutes and is just an interactive, narrated comic book (the art is kinda ugly, I must say). Interestingly enough, the only choices you have to make are:

Do you romance Ash, Liara, or neither?
Do you save or kill the Rachni Queen?
Do you save or kill Wrex on Virmire?
Do you save Ash or Kaidan on Virmire?
Do you save the Council or let them Die?

I haven't seen yet how it affects other things (I only completed Freedom's Progress last night so haven't gotten to where they start making all the "callbacks" to other sidequests from the first game). However, I think you can take that above list of decisions and pretty much be assured that those are the only ones that will have a truly significant impact in ME3 at some point. Not that some of the sidequests might not factor in in terms of guest appearances and maybe some additional sidequest opportunities, but they won't factor into a major part of the plot.

[Talisman]

Sounds like a solid pass unless you're really that lazy.

[Jmacq1]

Sounds like a solid pass unless you're really that lazy.

Or don't have 40+ hours to play through ME1 again and want to at least control the "basics."

Oh, I forgot to add: You also have to make the Anderson/Udina choice.

[pig iron grenadier]

oooooohhh, I got time. really I only play ME, DA, KOTOR....some lego and some battlefront.

I hardly get any games that are new. I just replay replay replay

[Jmacq1]

Just announced/demo'ed at Microsoft's press conference at E3:

There will be Kinect support for ME3. Not in the form of motion-controls, but vocal controls. You can speak commands to your squadmates during combat, and can speak your dialogue choices in the "dialogue wheel" to select them.

[Talisman]

YouTube - ‪Mass Effect 3 - E3 2011: Gameplay Trailer‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6XPvkobW5E&feature=relmfu)


Dear lord.

[pig iron grenadier]

Why You tube makes you get a google account is beyond me....I refuse to get a google account.

[pig iron grenadier]

That gameplay is fracking amazing. Also Liara, legion and Garrus FTW!

[Talisman]

That gameplay is fracking amazing. Also Liara, legion and Garrus FTW!

I'm looking forward to see how Miranda and Jacob are faring. Y'know, seeing as they don't exactly have Shepard's status as Ultimate Badass and were actual Cerberus Operatives.

[atomsmasher]

I'm played second went back and am playing first. I don't have time to play really but the game is so good I'll make time to play. I love this series. I mean it's a jolt of shock that I needed to keep buying games and it is the standard upon which all other games are now judged.

[Immortal_Joker]

http://www.jeuxcapt.com/upload/module_images/1305296289_Ashley_1_scan_Mass_Effect_3.jpg


COME TO ME BABY!!! Good thing i stayed faithful to her in ME2 -drools-

[Saboteur]

I'd rather it get delayed and be aweeeesssoommmeeeee.

Ditto.

I sure hope Zaeed is a playable character again.

I hooked up with Miranda. I'm curious to see what happens because of it. Got a feeling her father who she hates so much is someone high up in the command chain of the Alliance. Hackett?

[rsg]

I never got the feeling Miranda's father had anything to do with the Alliance - figured he was CEO of some MegaCorp. Concidentally, I was playing her loyalty mission when you posted, the merc whose neck gets snapped calls her father "the richest man in the galaxy" doesn't sound like any military man I've ever heard of.

I read over on the ME wiki that they plan on having fewer Squad members than 2 and making the interactions richer to compensate.

Excerpt from the ME Wiki;
RETURNING SQUAD MEMBERS
Kaiden/Ashley
Liara
Tali
Garrus

Zaeed is listed as having a cameo. I'm disappointed that they haven't said anything about Grunt - I like him a lot more than Wrex. Heresy I know but I do.

Mass Effect 3 - Mass Effect Wiki - Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, walkthroughs and more (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_effect_3)

[Saboteur]

I never got the feeling Miranda's father had anything to do with the Alliance - figured he was CEO of some MegaCorp. Concidentally, I was playing her loyalty mission when you posted, the merc whose neck gets snapped calls her father "the richest man in the galaxy" doesn't sound like any military man I've ever heard of.

That's good to know.

I've also heard that about Zaeed. However, the game has been delayed and I'm holding out the hope that he's been upgraded to playable.

Grunt's decent. Don't have a preference with him or Wrex either way. Not much of a Krogan fan.

[pig iron grenadier]

Legion is also a NPC I believe as he is in the gameplay trailer.

Funny thing about Zaeed....hated him. Now on my 10th or so play through I find I take him most of the time...and like him.

I pretty much take Zaeed, Kasumi, Tali, Legion, Mordin, Miranda and Samara. The others--not so much.

[rsg]

I mix it up depending on the mission but I primarily use Tali,Grunt,Jack,Legion and Mordin.

I can live with the list I've seen provided that they add to it but I can't say I'm excited to go back to my permanent party from ME1 which was Liara and Tali for the majority of the game. Maybe getting that Fenris mech will make up for most of my favorite characters not being in the squad. I doubt it though.

Well, at least I can look forward to my FemShep being able to romance Tali and likely being able to see her face(both Shepard and me). Just read an article about BioWare struggling with her face and whether or not to show it. Got a feeling it will be revealed, Tali seems to be too popular for them not to.

I hope that list of planets on the wiki is true. I really want to see the Quarian homeworld.

[Talisman]

COME TO ME BABY!!! Good thing i stayed faithful to her in ME2 -drools-

Dude, she now looks almost EXACTLY like my girlfriend. There is no way in hell I CAN'T romance her in MEor work up the courage to see someone else in ME2.

DAMN IT BIOWARE, STOP CRAFTING GAMES SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AT ME!

[Saboteur]

One thing I'd like to see different would be an extra squadmate available on your missions.

Zaeed, Garrus, Jack or Legion tend to be my squadmates.

[Talisman]

So I just downloaded the Firepower pack (finally) seeing as the guns will import to ME3.

I have to say that playing on Hardened as a Vanguard with Assault Rifle Training, the Plasma Shotgun and Mattock make life a lot easier.

My destructive capacity now rivals that of a Widow-equipped Soldier or Infiltrator. Boo. Freaking. Yah.

[Saboteur]

One upgrade that would make the game even more interesting (to me) would be having control of your squadmates.

[Talisman]

So I just came across this article.

10 Things MASS EFFECT Fans MUST Know From Tie-ins | Newsarama.com (http://www.newsarama.com/games/10-must-know-facts-mass-effect-novels-comics-mass-effect-3-110707.html)

Some of this stuff I already knew... but Number One really hit me in the face because I should have f***ing realized it sooner.

[pig iron grenadier]

Well, it is clear saving the station is bad as all things related to teh reapers or relays leads to a path the reapers have chosen civilizations to develop...and easier to crush and indoctrinate.
IMO

[Talisman]

Well, it is clear saving the station is bad as all things related to teh reapers or relays leads to a path the reapers have chosen civilizations to develop...and easier to crush and indoctrinate.
IMO

I never save the station, not once; That thing needs to BURN. Paragon all the way!

[Talisman]

Update on the ME3 site; New Weapon revealed, Thessia confirmed, and info on the Cerberus Trooper.

http://masseffect.bioware.com/me3/n7ops/weapons/

[Talisman]

Xbox LIVE is holding a sale on select ME2 DLC for Gold Subscribers.

Lair of the Shadow Broker: 400 MS Points
Arrival: 280 MS Points MS Points
Kasumi- Stolen Memory: 280 MS Points

[pig iron grenadier]

I already have everything but the one weapons pack....drats..

[Talisman]

It's only two bucks/160 MS points. And trust me, it's two bucks well spent.

[Talisman]

Mass Effect 3: A Dissertation - Steam Users' Forums (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2011810)

This is well worth a read for those of you who still have questions.

Be warned, you're in for a textwall.

[Saboteur]

Apparently, DC Direct are doing these in the 1:12th scale.

So far there's,
Shepard
Tali
Grunt
Thane
Miranda
Garrus
Legion
Mordin Solus

(would've loved to have had these in the 1:18th scale!)

Mordin Mass Effect 2 Series 2 Action Figure (PreOrder) (http://www.pastgenerationtoys.com/Mordin-Mass-Effect-Action-PreOrder/dp/B0050ZK0IM)

[Talisman]

Apparently, DC Direct are doing these in the 1:12th scale.

So far there's,
Shepard
Tali
Grunt
Thane
Miranda
Garrus
Legion
Mordin Solus

(would've loved to have had these in the 1:18th scale!)

Mordin Mass Effect 2 Series 2 Action Figure (PreOrder) (http://www.pastgenerationtoys.com/Mordin-Mass-Effect-Action-PreOrder/dp/B0050ZK0IM)

Last I heard the second wave (Miranda, Mordin, Garrus, Legion) was axed and Wave 1 (Shepard, Tali, Grunt, and Thane) hit stores in very limited quantities. I saw some of the first wave not to long ago at Hastings; They're... really not worth it. look off-model and the weapons aren't really accurate, especially Grunt's Claymore (black as opposed to gray)

[Saboteur]

I'm not too bummed to hear that. Mattel should go back and do these in the 1:18th scale.

[Talisman]

I'm not too bummed to hear that. Mattel should go back and do these in the 1:18th scale.

Eh. I'm fine with the scale they're in now, but I'd much rather have NECA handle the license.

[pig iron grenadier]

Eh. I'm fine with the scale they're in now, but I'd much rather have NECA handle the license.
Agreed...DC Direct messed up the Bioware License from mass effect to Dragon age....they all looked bad.
When Tali fans pass up a Tali action figure....you know its not good.

I don't trust mattel to do better. Better that an off brand toy manufacturer does it.

[Saboteur]

With Neca, they'd be a Hell of a lot more expensive.

[pig iron grenadier]

They are 18 a piece as it is.....DC Direct isn't cheap...

[Talisman]

With Neca, they'd be a Hell of a lot more expensive.

Yeah, but the sheer quality of the figures more than makes up for it. And if they added in an LED feature like with the Dead Space figures, I think it's no longer a question as to whether or not it's worth the price.

[Saboteur]

They are 18 a piece as it is.....DC Direct isn't cheap...

If you think $18 is expensive, try $35-$40 dollars with Neca.

Yeah, but the sheer quality of the figures more than makes up for it. And if they added in an LED feature like with the Dead Space figures, I think it's no longer a question as to whether or not it's worth the price.

True, but there's no guarantee they'd do that.

[Talisman]

So I recently started a NG+ Insanity run in ME2 (Suicide, I know) as a Vanguard.

Umm... are things SUPPOSED to be this easy, because I'm steamrolling mercs left and right with only one death due to getting careless in the last segment of Jack's recruitment mission.

Freedom's Progress, Mordin, Jack... I still have Garrus and Grunt left before Horizon.

[rsg]

So I recently started a NG+ Insanity run in ME2 (Suicide, I know) as a Vanguard.

Umm... are things SUPPOSED to be this easy, because I'm steamrolling mercs left and right with only one death due to getting careless in the last segment of Jack's recruitment mission.

Freedom's Progress, Mordin, Jack... I still have Garrus and Grunt left before Horizon.

I attempted a Hardcore run just because of the ease I have doing Tali's recruitment that way for the Geth Rifle. I thought the same way you are until Garrus' mission and Horizon. What I encountered was a crowd control nightmare, especially since that is not something I'm good at in ME2. Found the armored Varren ludicrous and incredibly deadly. But it was the Husks at the end of Horizon that convinced me to give up...at least as an Adept. Maybe I'll try again as a soldier before 3 comes out but I'm thinking it'll just wind up as frustration I don't need.

[Talisman]

I attempted a Hardcore run just because of the ease I have doing Tali's recruitment that way for the Geth Rifle. I thought the same way you are until Garrus' mission and Horizon. What I encountered was a crowd control nightmare, especially since that is not something I'm good at in ME2. Found the armored Varren ludicrous and incredibly deadly. But it was the Husks at the end of Horizon that convinced me to give up...at least as an Adept. Maybe I'll try again as a soldier before 3 comes out but I'm thinking it'll just wind up as frustration I don't need.

Crowd control doesn't seem to be much of a problem between Iinferno Ammo, Area Reave, and Improved Shockwave.

As for Soldiers, the Mattock and Hardened (I think) Adrenaline rush is basically an "IWIN" button.

[Iron Guru]

I'm curious which class do you guys consider the best in Mass Effect 1 & 2?

I'm asking because in both of these games, I only played as a soldier as it seems to be the easiest. I love the Commando or Shock Trooper designation too. I always choose Commando.

For any fellow soldiers out there which do prefer Commando or Shock Trooper?

[rsg]

@Talisman; I was playing as an Adept and could do virtually nothing to strip armor/barriers quickly enough for any of my powers to be effective. Shockwave doesn't swat them away when they have barriers at least it wasn't doing that for me. I prefer medium to long range combat, so swarming enemies usually give me trouble - the extra obstacles just make it even harder.

@Iron Guru; For ME1 I only ever played as a soldier and always take Commando(even in 2). I didn't like the power set-up in 1 so I never used them.

As for favorite class(es) in 2, I like Soldier and Adept. It all depends on play style, personal taste and difficulty level.

[Talisman]

I'm curious which class do you guys consider the best in Mass Effect 1 & 2?

I'm asking because in both of these games, I only played as a soldier as it seems to be the easiest. I love the Commando or Shock Trooper designation too. I always choose Commando.

For any fellow soldiers out there which do prefer Commando or Shock Trooper?

Soldiers and Adepts were king in ME1, but I prefered the style/thought of the Vanguard.

In ME2, I rain hell with the Vanguard between my Champion specialization and Heavy Charge. Add in the Eviscerator Shotgun, Assault rifle training, and the Kestrel armor, and I am an unstoppable blur of destruction.

@Talisman; I was playing as an Adept and could do virtually nothing to strip armor/barriers quickly enough for any of my powers to be effective. Shockwave doesn't swat them away when they have barriers at least it wasn't doing that for me. I prefer medium to long range combat, so swarming enemies usually give me trouble - the extra obstacles just make it even harder.

Area Reave works wonders against armor and barriers. Right now, Pre-Horizon, my Squad consists of Miranda and Zaeed. Miranda's a decent all-around combatant and the combination of Unstable Warp and Area Overload do wonders to crush defenses in addition to my AR and Inferno Ammo, while I outfitted Zaeed with the Incisor and Heavy Disruptor Ammo. Improved Shockwave at least staggers most enemies out of cover just long enough to slap them with a Warp/Overload, then pepper them with fire until they go down or it's safe enough for me to charge in.

[pig iron grenadier]

I'm always a soldier myself...always. But I use Reave a lot with my companion..

[Iron Guru]

OK thanks guys I think I'll try Adept and Vanguard next, but I think I'm really gonna miss all of my weapons though.
Soldier FTW!

[Talisman]

Once you're ROFLstomping Mercs and Collectors left and right with the Eviscerator and Heavy Charge, you'll wonder why they push Soldier as the "canon" class. Take Assault Rifle training and the Mattock or Sniper training, and you can act like a CQB-specialized Soldier. But with more style and awesome, of course.

[pig iron grenadier]

I like to be a Soldier for several reasons....

1) I'm used to it now and have fun replaying as a soldier without changing it up.
2) My favorite NPC characters are techs and Biotics.
3) Liara, Mordin, Tali, Legion, Kasumi, and Samara are all I need.

4) Wrex or Grunt for added humor

[Saboteur]

Doing it now as Vanguard. Biotic slam, and charge really make it fun. The Locust SMG is devastating within 50ft.

[galactron22]

My Favorite game, can't really say how many times I'v replayed the first two parts, and I can't wait for the third.

[Talisman]

For those of you familiar with the "Commander Shepard" song, Gavin Dunne, aka Miracle of Sound, debuted a new ME-related song at Gamescom Friday, "Normandy".

You can listen to it here: Miracle of Sound - Mass Effect - Normandy - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgjsQ1Bo_k&feature=feedfbc)
(Will change link once it goes up on The Escapist)

And for those of you who STILL don't know about the greatest song ever written, here's the original "Commander Shepard": Commander Shepard: The Official Music Video - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHseWNr7iKk&list=FLIagvTRoKXMZLfO0FIcMSFQ&index=50)

[Saboteur]

Nice find, Tali.

[Talisman]

Nice find, Tali.

Sometimes panning through the shitstorm that is BioWare Social Network brings up a few gems.

But most of the time it's just whining.

[pig iron grenadier]

Definitely whiny....

[Talisman]

Definitely whiny....

If it isn't Renegade butthurt, it's Paragon entitlement. And then there's the Paragades and Renegons claiming that either extreme is a terrible way to play and that middle ground is required while speing just as much vitrol as the former groups. Not to mention the hatred for Talimancers, Ashley fans, Kaidan fans, Team Dextro fans, and anyone else.

It's like the Tank, but with more people and smug senses of superiority.

At least the Vanguard vs. Infiltrator rivalry is fun.

Go Team Charge!

[Saboteur]

You're right about the BioWare forums. They're actually worse than Joe collectors if you can believe that.

[pig iron grenadier]

Well, I was a bit whiny...then I got Lair of The Shadow Broker and the whining stopped ,and became Wiiinnniing.
I didn't go overboard like some though...

[Talisman]

I try not to whine out there. Just observe and make a half-assed snarky comment now and then.

Like my 19-point-plan for obtaining ME3 on launch day.

[pig iron grenadier]

I pre-ordered the super duper duper edition 2 months ago...

[Talisman]

I pre-ordered it the day after the first trailer premiered during the Spike VGAs. As soon as the N7 Edition was announced I upgraded.

Bit upset we don't get an N7 Assault rifle in the CE DLC, but oh well. If I'm relying on an Assault Rifle as my main weapon, I'm playing my class wrong.

[Saboteur]

BioWare is debating whether or not to show Tali's face. They wanted feedback from the fans and got a mixed reaction. I personally would like to see what she looks like, and hope they do show her next year.

[Iron Guru]

Yeah! I think it's about time we get to see what she looks like.
Besides, I cant wait for the reactions of the Tali lovers out there.

[Talisman]

Yeah! I think it's about time we get to see what she looks like.
Besides, I cant wait for the reactions of the Tali lovers out there.

I'm a Talimancer and I'M unsure about it. On the one hand, it'd be pretty great, but on the other, it might cheapen the whole thing. Or something. I don't know.

[Iron Guru]

I'm a Talimancer and I'M unsure about it. On the one hand, it'd be pretty great, but on the other, it might cheapen the whole thing. Or something. I don't know.

Are you sure it's just, because you don't want to find out that she's a butterface? I too have romance her and I want to know. I have have had almost all of my female crew members.

I just want to finally find out if all the hype over her was worth it.

[Talisman]

Are you sure it's just, because you don't want to find out that she's a butterface? I too have romance her and I want to know. I have have had almost all of my female crew members.

I just want to finally find out if all the hype over her was worth it.

Like I said, cheapen it.

In all seriousness though, the mask is just as much a part of her from a character and meta standpoint as her actual face, if not more so.

[pig iron grenadier]

If they show I hope they don't make her a space elf.....i think it would be neat if she resembled a grey or something...

[pig iron grenadier]

Oh, I think the word Taleliara best sums up my Bioware playing style.

[Saboteur]

I kinda half expected BioWare would reveal her face in ME3, at least for those who pursued a relationship with her in ME2.

[Iron Guru]

In all seriousness though, the mask is just as much a part of her from a character and meta standpoint as her actual face, if not more so.

I feel the same way but I think they should reveal it since this is the end of the trilogy.

Oh, I think the word Taleliara best sums up my Bioware playing style.

Oh so you're one of those are you?:D

My playing style would be more described as "the most interesting man in the universe". I am "The Commander Shepard" and, I'm saving everyone's ass whether they recognize it or not. I'm looking at you council. I like to get to know all my crew members better. Some I get to know better than others that's all. I like to show the females that both sides of my pillow really are cool.

[Talisman]

If they show I hope they don't make her a space elf.....i think it would be neat if she resembled a grey or something...

I'm hoping she does't wind up like a space elf either. Mostly because I despise elves (Except for Merrill and Fenris). And I don't think Quarian skin pigment would be anything OTHER than grey or very pale white at this point, due to, you know, being stuck in suits their whole lives.

Oh, I think the word Taleliara best sums up my Bioware playing style.

Tashiara is roughly my playthrough. On my Male Sheps, anyway.

For Femsheps it's been Liarrusdan, which sounds like someone named a country in the middle east after Liara.

I kinda half expected BioWare would reveal her face in ME3, at least for those who pursued a relationship with her in ME2.

Everyone wins. The Tali haters don't have to deal with it and the Tali fans get the closure if they want it. I hope it's optional though.

[Saboteur]

BioWare is probably going to show it only with the romance dialogue. But of course, a casual glance on google will bring up a pic if you're not romantically involved with her.

I think they're going to do it. Casey Hudson seems to be leaning that way.

[pig iron grenadier]

Oh so you're one of those are you?:D

My playing style would be more described as "the most interesting man in the universe". I am "The Commander Shepard" and, I'm saving everyone's ass whether they recognize it or not. I'm looking at you council. I like to get to know all my crew members better. Some I get to know better than others that's all. I like to show the females that both sides of my pillow really are cool.
Well, Tali, Leliana, and Liara are the only people my characters ever romanced in game. I like Merril's character very much, but there needs to be a "face tattoo off" function on Dragon Age...
I don't care ultimately if they reveal Tali or not...both ways work, but i think it should be one of those conversational reward answers rather than just seeing her..give the Talimancer the option i guess.

Of course, no ME player will be able to avoid seeing it anyway...

[pig iron grenadier]

Oh, there is some kind of trade show this weekend so there should be new video Monday or so I'm betting.

[Talisman]

Yep, Penny Arcade Expo (PAX). I heard some rumors, but nothing for sure. Haven't had time to check the BSN lately, though I'll provide a link to the Confirmed Features thread later.

[megalodon]

I'm doing my fourth run of ME2. I did two renegade playthroughs: one to carry over into ME3, and one where I let everyone die just to see what happens. And two paragons: one as a Talimancer, and my current one is staying true to Ash. Not sure if I want to see Tali's face. I guess it depends on who they model her face after since Bioware has modeled female characters after real people before. I'm sure they'd pick a Middle Easterner, which I happen to think are pretty good looking.

Has anyone read the novels? Do they tie-in to the games well?

[Jmacq1]

I'm doing my fourth run of ME2. I did two renegade playthroughs: one to carry over into ME3, and one where I let everyone die just to see what happens. And two paragons: one as a Talimancer, and my current one is staying true to Ash. Not sure if I want to see Tali's face. I guess it depends on who they model her face after since Bioware has modeled female characters after real people before. I'm sure they'd pick a Middle Easterner, which I happen to think are pretty good looking.

Has anyone read the novels? Do they tie-in to the games well?

Depends on what you mean by "tie in to the games well."

If you mean "do they fit into the universe without interfering with the games?" Then yes, they do.

If you mean "do they fill in some of the gaps and provide some backstory and details you otherwise wouldn't get?" Then also yes.

If you mean "do they directly tie in to the games?" Then no, not as much. Still, they're pretty good, light reads. The first one especially gives you the story of Captain Anderson's failed bid to become the first human SPECTRE and how Saren screwed him over. The other books basically continue the story of one of the other characters from that first book.

The comics are also good for that (and tie into both the novels and games well), but ultimately they're all on about the same level as the iPhone/iPod Mass Effect tie-in game: You get some fun details, but not at all necessary for full enjoyment of the games. (For those that might not know, the ME iPhone game showed the backstory between Miranda and Jacob, and how Jacob came to join Cerberus...you play as Jacob in the game).

Then again, there are rumors that some of the novel characters may pop up in ME3 (one or two in particular), possibly even as party members....so for the folks that have read them that'll be an extra "easter egg."

[Talisman]

We know Kai Leng shows up in ME3.

I can't wait to eviscerate than xenophobic monstrosity with his own knife.

[megalodon]

If you mean "do they fit into the universe without interfering with the games?" Then yes, they do.

If you mean "do they fill in some of the gaps and provide some backstory and details you otherwise wouldn't get?" Then also yes.



Yeah, I meant this kind of stuff. Kind of like the Star Wars expanded universe--it's cool to know, but doesn't necessarily impact the films.

We know Kai Leng shows up in ME3.

I can't wait to eviscerate than xenophobic monstrosity with his own knife.

Well, then I guess should start reading so I can get the same enjoyment!

[pig iron grenadier]

Anything new from PAX?

[Talisman]

Nothing huge. Found this though:

Mass Effect 3 Gameplay Hands-On at PAX 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19B2XDAOiZw)

Sadly the guy seems to have no idea what he's talking about...

[pig iron grenadier]

So, he knows about the genophage but calls Liara the girl with the thing on her head?
Big orange thing.....A knife?

That guy is a douche..

[Talisman]

That guy is a douche..

Pretty much SOP for Destructoid. I nearly imploded after hearing what they said about Sonic Colors.


Though Sega's response was pretty damn awesome.

[Talisman]

Well, I finally got around to it.

For those of you who are dying for more specific bits on ME3, a really awesome guy on BSN by the name of Phaedon has been compiling a huge list of features, both confirmed and rumored.

So, without further ado, here it is.

Choose Language | BioWare Social Network (http://social.bioware.com/2035423/blog/)

[Saboteur]

Space battles!

Thanks Tali!

[Talisman]

Space battles!

Thanks Tali!

Don't thank me. I'm just a secondary middleman.

[Saboteur]

You're our intel man. I tend to steer clear of the BioWare forums.

Good to have some more info and rumors coming down the grapevine.

[Talisman]

You're our intel man. I tend to steer clear of the BioWare forums.

Good to have some more info and rumors coming down the grapevine.

Trust me, you'll know when they put out major Vanguard news when I disappear for a week and need to be hospitalized due to sheer "Squee" overload.

Though I am pleased from the recent announcement that a properly-built Vanguard will be an unstoppable train of destruction. Paraphrasing.

[Talisman]

Techno Turian! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWYUiVfZo9k)

[Talisman]

NEWS UPDATE!

Choose Language | BioWare Social Network (http://social.bioware.com/blog.php?user=2035423&blogentry_id=50983)

Monsters, other languages, AND CARNAGE IS BACK!

[pig iron grenadier]

Thanks, Tali..great info.

[pig iron grenadier]

Random question. Will you do a new play through before ME 3 is released....I mean a new one involving ME1 and ME2 or just stick with what you already have?

[Talisman]

Random question. Will you do a new play through before ME 3 is released....I mean a new one involving ME1 and ME2 or just stick with what you already have?

I'm probably going to clear ME3 with my Male Paragon Vanguard (ParaGuard) before I got alllllll the way back to the start and do things over, though I'm sort of already doing that with my Female Paragon Adept. I've got a Renegade Sentinel that's sitting ready to be pulled into 2 right now after I finish my Insanity Run.

Been messing around with the save editor. Gave my Vanguard a Claymore AND a Revenant. I look at living enemies and say, "No. This will not do".

And then they die in a storm of fire and 1000 Newtons of destructive force.

[pig iron grenadier]

Hahhah

[Talisman]

Well, here's the Earth-Shaking announcement that was rumored last week:

Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer Is Confirmed - G4tv.com (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/717210/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-is-confirmed/)

Not quite sure how to take this.

[Saboteur]

Awesome. Just what I wanted to hear.

[Talisman]

From what "Evil" Chris Priestly (one of the devs) has stated, it's 4 Co-Op missions.

Which... seems a bit wasteful, unless they're huge or tie into the main game somehow.

[Saboteur]

4's better than nothing, I suppose. But, in the end, it's possible that it will expand into more missions.

[Talisman]

Incoming screens from the Co-Op announcement...

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/mp_1012_1-p.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/mp_1012_2-p.jpg

Based on assumptions from the first screen... We can play as Salarians, Krogan, and Turians, in addition to Humans.

Here's to hoping we can also roll Quarians, Asari, hell, maybe even Geth and Drell.

[pig iron grenadier]

Asari Commandos FTW!

[Talisman]

From what "Evil" Chris Priestly (one of the devs) has stated, it's 4 Co-Op missions.

Which... seems a bit wasteful, unless they're huge or tie into the main game somehow.

4's better than nothing, I suppose. But, in the end, it's possible that it will expand into more missions.

Going back, I misinterpreted the information.

It's "4-PLAYER" Co-Op missions.

[pig iron grenadier]

Just played suicide mission and shadow broker again.....I love this game even if I can play it with my eyes closed now.

[Saboteur]

4-player co-op sounds much better.

[Talisman]

Looking at the footage that's up on XBL, we can choose our Race and Class for Co-Op.

Human Vanguard, Turian Infiltrator, Salarian Soldier, Krogan Adept... the list goes on. Also, Drell are confirmed.

[Saboteur]

Turian Vanguard would be cool.

Drell? That will be intersting.

[Iron Guru]

When i first heard of the multiplayer being added, I thought it was a bad idea, but from the footage I've seen so far it looks good. So I am looking forward to it.

[Talisman]

Pics of the finished Liara statue are up!

Liara T'Soni Mass Effect Bishoujo Statue Photos (http://www.toyark.com/news/video-game-toy-news-8/liara-tsoni-mass-effect-bishoujo-statue-photos-4919/)

Still not sure what to make of this.

[pig iron grenadier]

They shrunk her breasts. It looks lovely I'll be buying as it's already on pre-order. Hopefully we get a Tali one that makes up for the sub-par action figure.

I think the breasts were shrunken after Bioware Forum people went bananas. Which is fine to me..I can display it now without looking like a pervert.

[Talisman]

They shrunk her breasts. It looks lovely I'll be buying as it's already on pre-order. Hopefully we get a Tali one that makes up for the sub-par action figure.

I think the breasts were shrunken after Bioware Forum people went bananas. Which is fine to me..I can display it now without looking like a pervert.

Yeah I remember that particular "FAIL" moment and the twenty thousand threads that ensued. I can't even begin to imagine the backlash if they make a Tali statue... one half will be "Y U MAEK TALI IS SUKK", the other will be "WHAT THE F*** HAVE YOU DONE WITH TALI YOU JAPANESE BASTARDS?!".

[pig iron grenadier]

Then you'll also have (if they reveal her face), Helmeted or non-helmeted ....... I still say she'll look like a grey alien mixed with a space elf.

[Talisman]

Then you'll also have (if they reveal her face), Helmeted or non-helmeted ....... I still say she'll look like a grey alien mixed with a space elf.

That's the conclusion I keep arriving at. Even if they had skin pigmentation, 300 years on the Flotilla, living within a full-body suit would make them them whiter than a Aryan Nation rally in a snowstorm.

*clears throat* In any case I really don't see why everyone thinks Tali's skin color is purple. We have zero evidence for it to be, other than it appearing to be so from what we can see through her visor... which actually IS purple.

[pig iron grenadier]

Quarian appendages also resemble the classic grey in most pictures with the extended calves and forearms, and the bend in the calf itself. Tali is also taller than Shep.

That's my 2 cents.....now the fans say Dat ass, they will soon be saying Dem eyes!

[Talisman]

That's my 2 cents.....now the fans say Dat ass, they will soon be saying Dem eyes!

The eyes don't seem like they'd be too weird, considering what we can see through the helmet. They look closer to Human/Turian/Asari eyes than Salarian-esque Bug Eyes.

And I'm inclined to say that Salarians may have been the in-universe inspiration for the "Grey Alien" stories.

[Talisman]

And here's another new item from the Edmonton boys:

M-8 Avenger Assault Rifle Replica (http://biowarestore.com/accessories/m8-avenger-assault-rifle-replica)

Goddamn that is sexy.

[Iron Guru]

And here's another new item from the Edmonton boys:

M-8 Avenger Assault Rifle Replica (http://biowarestore.com/accessories/m8-avenger-assault-rifle-replica)

Goddamn that is sexy.

Yeah that is nice. I'd like to have that along with a Lancer from gears.

[Talisman]

News from the ME front:

Every class can use up to 5 weapons, but only the Soldier can do so without penalties, this applies especially to special weapons (Revenant, Claymore, Widow)

Credit once more to Phaedon of the BSN forums.

[kneroh]

This new trailer is better than porn!

Mass Effect 3 Video Game, VGA 2011: Exclusive Gameplay Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-2011-exclusive-gameplay/724831)

[Talisman]

This new trailer is better than porn!

Mass Effect 3 Video Game, VGA 2011: Exclusive Gameplay Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-2011-exclusive-gameplay/724831)

Mother. Of. God.

Yeah... This is going to be awesome.

[Iron Guru]

This new trailer is better than porn!

Mass Effect 3 Video Game, VGA 2011: Exclusive Gameplay Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-2011-exclusive-gameplay/724831)

See now that's what I'm talking about! I can't wait to play this. :D

[pig iron grenadier]

Only this game will be able to pull me from Skyrim.....

[Iron Guru]

Only this game will be able to pull me from Skyrim.....

Yeah, I know what you mean. Once you start playing a Mass Effect game especially on the first play-through it's like no other games exist until you finish.

[Talisman]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Once you start playing a Mass Effect game especially on the first play-through it's like no other games exist until you finish.

I'm still trying to figure out what this Gears of War stuff is all about. I mean, it came out around the same time as Mass Effect, but I don't even remember hearing about it!

Well, I think there might have been a column in OXM once or twice, but still.

[pig iron grenadier]

Tali, do you have xbox? I wanna try this co-op thing when I'm done with my solo playthrough...

[Talisman]

Tali, do you have xbox? I wanna try this co-op thing when I'm done with my solo playthrough...

SonicVanguardN7, PIG. I'll see you around the Galaxy.

[pig iron grenadier]

My tag is vigna

[Talisman]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/376408_10150427267081645_85811091644_8605383_95875 2362_n.jpg

[pig iron grenadier]

Hahahahhah

[XAMOT]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/376408_10150427267081645_85811091644_8605383_95875 2362_n.jpg

Can it wait for a bit, I'm in the middle of some calibrations.

[Talisman]

So, turns out that we're getting free swag in ME3 for completing both the ME3 Demo and the demo for Kingdoms of Amalur: The Reckoning.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/405199_10150477521666645_85811091644_8831793_16262 95430_n.jpg

Say hello to the Reckoner Knight Armor (designed by Todd McFarlane) and the Chakram Launcher.

In addition, purchasing The Reckoning and linking it with your EA account with ME data will give you Shepard's Battle Armor for use in KoA:tR, and completing the ME3 Demo will give you Omniblade Daggers.

[Jmacq1]

So, turns out that we're getting free swag in ME3 for completing both the ME3 Demo and the demo for Kingdoms of Amalur: The Reckoning.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/Cyent1/405199_10150477521666645_85811091644_8831793_16262 95430_n.jpg

Say hello to the Reckoner Knight Armor (designed by Todd McFarlane) and the Chakram Launcher.

In addition, purchasing The Reckoning and linking it with your EA account with ME data will give you Shepard's Battle Armor for use in KoA:tR, and completing the ME3 Demo will give you Omniblade Daggers.

According to BBTS, the new repackaging of the Mass Effect figures being put out by Big Fish (after being dropped by DC Direct) will have DLC codes packaged with the figures as well as "Mass Effect 3" packaging. Supposedly a unique code with each figure.

[Talisman]

According to BBTS, the new repackaging of the Mass Effect figures being put out by Big Fish (after being dropped by DC Direct) will have DLC codes packaged with the figures as well as "Mass Effect 3" packaging. Supposedly a unique code with each figure.

Wonder what that'll get us... alternate outfits, or multiplayer skins maybe? In any case, hopefully Big Fish will have a bit more consistent distribution than DC did. I never did find Tali or Shepard.

[pig iron grenadier]

Any word on Demo release date?

[Talisman]

Any word on Demo release date?

Soon* is all I'm hearing.

[Iron Guru]

Any word on Demo release date?

The Demo release date is Valentines day.

[Talisman]

New trailer is up! Welcome to Special Forces, soldier!

Mass Effect 3: Special Forces Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h254YRtQoJU)

I hope I get to play a Quarian Vanguard...

[pig iron grenadier]

I can't wait to play it and do co op with someone to get the bonuses....Tali--you are up! :) Although I think I need a new headset......

[Talisman]

I can't wait to play it and do co op with someone to get the bonuses....Tali--you are up! :) Although I think I need a new headset......

Just a warning, I play Vanguard, and I play stupid.

Mass Effect: Special Forces Trailer » BioWare Blog (http://blog.bioware.com/2012/01/27/special-forces/)

Shyeah, like there's such a thing as a smart Vanguard.

[pig iron grenadier]

Ummm I'm medigel king I soldier and just shoot stuff....

[Iron Guru]

Ummm I'm medigel king I soldier and just shoot stuff....

This describes me as well.

[Iron Guru]

I think Freddy Prinze Jr. is gonna be a squad member, but I'm not entirely sure. He's the one doing the voice for James Vega.

[Talisman]

I think Freddy Prinze Jr. is gonna be a squad member, but I'm not entirely sure. He's the one doing the voice for James Vega.

You've gotta be kidding me. Our new squaddie wears a goddamn ASCOT?!

[pig iron grenadier]

Zoiks!

[Atomic Platypus]

Sweet Holy Jeezus. I really need to finish up the last 2 DLCs for ME2 and prepare for 3. That multiplayer looks INSANE. I'm def gonna need some your gamertags for this. I could play that all day. For months.

[Steelgrave]

I just upgraded to gold. I have no idea how to do anything online. I'd like to get into it but as of right now I'm clueless.

[Arashikage39]

I just reserved my copy today along with Reckoning. When I go pick up Reckoning next week, I think I'm going to have to upgrade to the Collectors Edition. Did not realize that there was a decent amount of in-game extras.

[Talisman]

I just upgraded to gold. I have no idea how to do anything online. I'd like to get into it but as of right now I'm clueless.

The biggest difference between gold and silver membership is that Gold occasionally gets exclusive access to demos (like Kingdoms of Amalur), offers and sales, and the ability to play all of a game- namely, the online component.

[Steelgrave]

The biggest difference between gold and silver membership is that Gold occasionally gets exclusive access to demos (like Kingdoms of Amalur), offers and sales, and the ability to play all of a game- namely, the online component.

I played the Kingdoms of Amalur demo just to get the ME3 gun & armor. Kingdoms Of Amalur blows! I couldn't wait for it to end.

Now I'm trying to unlock the Eva helmet in Halo Reach but it's going to take forever to rank up. None of my friends are into video games so all I can do is play the solo campaign over & over & over again.

[Talisman]

I played the Kingdoms of Amalur demo just to get the ME3 gun & armor. Kingdoms Of Amalur blows! I couldn't wait for it to end.

Now I'm trying to unlock the Eva helmet in Halo Reach but it's going to take forever to rank up. None of my friends are into video games so all I can do is play the solo campaign over & over & over again.

I can help you out there, I'll hop on Reach later and we can do some Co-Op Firefight.

My tag is SonicVanguardN7.

[Steelgrave]

I can help you out there, I'll hop on Reach later and we can do some Co-Op Firefight.

My tag is SonicVanguardN7.

Ok cool!

[Talisman]

Some news from the toy front:

Large Photos Of Mass Effect Toys and Info From Big Fish (http://www.toyark.com/news/video-game-toy-news-8/large-photos-of-mass-effect-toys-and-info-from-big-fish-5273/)

Though it was only formed in early 2011, Big Fish Toys, Inc. is comprised of an A-list of action figure and toy industry veterans, each with 20 years’ experience at several leading companies on the most popular kid-directed and collector-appeal brands.

Over the past year Big Fish has operated primarily ‘behind the scenes’ –as a business-to-business vendor serving the 3D product development and manufacturing needs for video game publishers and other intellectual property holders. The SONY release of inFAMOUS 2 contained an ultra-detailed action figure statue of Cole that was produced by Big Fish. (Extremely rare ‘Red’ and ‘Blue’ variants were also produced at the request of the game developer Sucker Punch Productions.)

When Bioware and Electronic Arts sought to bring previously-developed, yet unreleased Mass Effect action figures to market, Big Fish Toys was able to incorporate the team’s goals and craft a business agreement that allowed the project to move forward. Big Fish will handle sourcing in Asia and wholesale sales worldwide through its established manufacturing and distribution partners.

This spring’s Mass Effect action figures will mark Big Fish Toy’s first release for retail sale under its own label. The fully-articulated figures, ranging between 6 3/8” and 7 ¼”, will be intricately sculpted with collector-level paint decoration. They will be securely packaged in a clam-shell blister card. The figures will be manufactured at a vendor who has produced some of the top collector action figure lines of the last couple decades, and in fact produced the Cole piece for Big Fish. Figures should be available for sale by April 2012. As a bonus, each figure will include a downloadable content pack for the Mass Effect 3 multi-player mode (on PC and XBox) that could include powerful new weapons and new characters. The pack could also include character boosters, weapon modifications, and weapon upgrades to make your multi-player squad stronger.

Same stock photos we've seen before, but at least it does confirm that the figures include DLC codes.

*sigh* Looks like I have to take up a night job again...

[Steelgrave]

I walked around FYE with Tali in my hand for about a half hour but I just couldn't pull the trigger. If the figures were Joe scale I'd buy them all. But I have no use for $20 statues. I'd rather have a cool poster or a cloth tapestry than a figure.

I'm sure people will be selling the DLC codes on ebay so I'll just pick the ones I want (if any).

[Talisman]

I don't know, an army of Tali'Zorah sounds kind of appealing to me... Still, I want to see some non-stock photos of this stuff before I pull the trigger.

[pig iron grenadier]

I got the DC Direct Shep and Tali from someone on the Tank...they are decent little statues...not action figures.

[Talisman]

New trailer up, this time showcasing the XX-chromosomed badass that is FemShep:

Mass Effect 3: Reinstated (FemShep Trailer) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pShKKOV_gA)

[pig iron grenadier]

Awesomeeee!

[Talisman]

Also, to anyone who didn't preorder the N7 edition, I'm sitting on a code for the Normandy avatar prop from the Facebook promotion.

If anyone wants it, let me know. I already have one from a contest BioWare ran last year...

[Talisman]

Good news for 360 users:

Mass Effect 3 Demo Available Early - Xbox 360 News at IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1218525p1.html)

Remember that facebook promo I mentioned last post? Well, it'll give you a shot at early Demo access.

[pig iron grenadier]

Ahhhhhhhh....2 days.....2 days......

[megalodon]

Hey Tali, if you still have that code I'll take it from you.

Also, I saw you guys talking about Freddie Prinze Jr. voicing a new character (like, a month ago--always late to the party I am). If interested, here's a video of him talking about it with some footage of him recording: Freddie Prinze Jr. to voice Mass Effect 3's James Vega | Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/21/freddie-prinze-jr-to-voice-mass-effect-3s-james-vega/)

Cheers!

[Talisman]

Well, just got done with the single-player portion of the Demo- Cyrus Shepard, Vanguard- It. Is. Awesome.

I popped in on the Multiplayer component for a bit too; they lock you into either a human male or human female for all classes (about half and half) at first, so I'm stuck playing a Female Human Vanguard for the time being.

If any of you guys want to start up a match later, hit me up- Gamertag SonicVanguardN7.

[pig iron grenadier]

Ohhhhh, multi-player demo too.....

[Steelgrave]

Stupid Cerberus! I ran over to the right to hide from the mech & the damn Cerberus guys dropped in behind me & shot me in the back.:mad: That was the first time anyway, they won't be pulling that cheap crap on me again.


If any of you guys want to start up a match later, hit me up- Gamertag SonicVanguardN7.

I'll be checking out the multiplayer on the 17th when it unlocks.

It says if you play the online stuff it will help the 1 player campaign. I'm wondering how exactly?

[Talisman]

I'll be checking out the multiplayer on the 17th when it unlocks.

It says if you play the online stuff it will help the 1 player campaign. I'm wondering how exactly?

No clue. So far the only two planets available are Noveria (Firebase White) and Benning (Firebase Ghost). The objectives seem fairly remote from the campaign:

-Eliminate Strategic Cerberus Personnel (upgraded, unnamed Cerberus soldiers)
-Reactivate Comm Beacons
-Deactivate Indoctrination Devices
-Reach and hold Landing Zone (last wave)

All of the above are from the "Bronze Challenge" which consists of 10 waves, plus the "Hold the Line" evac wave. Not sure about Silver and Gold challenges though.

[Iron Guru]

I going to download the demo tonight. I'm actually glad that I'm going to be able to go back to Noveria, that was one of my favorite planets from the series.

[Jmacq1]

I'll be checking out the multiplayer on the 17th when it unlocks.

It says if you play the online stuff it will help the 1 player campaign. I'm wondering how exactly?

That should be more clear when the game comes out. Basically from what I understand there's some sort of in-game "score" that determines what ending you get (this may not be a visible score, mind you...kind of like all those factors that determine who lives or dies in the "suicide mission" of Mass Effect 2). Doing things like playing a lot of multiplayer, or playing the "Mass Effect: Infiltrator" game on iOS will add points to that "score" and thus make it easier to get the best ending.

They've already said it's not impossible to get the best ending without doing any mutiplayer or out-of-game stuff. It's just a little bit easier with it. The in-universe explanation is basically that these other characters are accomplishing objectives or holding ground in such a way that it frees up Shepard and Co to do other things (or in the case of Infiltrator, you apparently end up gathering valuable intelligence that you pass on to Shepard).

Basically, your multiplayer character is the Wedge Antilles to Shepard's Luke Skywalker...off doing very heroic and important things, but not the "star of the show."

[Talisman]

Good news guys, BioWare has just announced that they're opening up Multiplayer access to all who want in a day early (today)!

[Steelgrave]

Ok, I just played online for the first time. I wanted to be a female Quarian but I always play as an infiltrator so the only option for infiltrator was female human. If it's going to be like that then I'm not liking it.

It took me a while to figure out how to equip the Avenger. All the screens are like "WTF???" I'll have to play it some more to form an opinion.

Oh, so you have to unlock the races? Somebody on the Bioware forum is also trying to get a Quarian infiltrator with no luck so far.

[Talisman]

Ok, I just played online for the first time. I wanted to be a female Quarian but I always play as an infiltrator so the only option for infiltrator was female human. If it's going to be like that then I'm not liking it.

It took me a while to figure out how to equip the Avenger. All the screens are like "WTF???" I'll have to play it some more to form an opinion.

Oh, so you have to unlock the races? Somebody on the Bioware forum is also trying to get a Quarian infiltrator with no luck so far.

Weapons and new characters are unlocked under the "Store" option in equipment packs- they're a bit like buying booster packs for card games, actually. The 20,000Cr "Veteran" pack will almost always net you something really good- last time I got a Mattock (which has been balanced quite a bit).

[Steelgrave]

This is friggin AWESOME!!!! When I get my hands on the full version I'm gonna be glued to it.

[Talisman]

This is friggin AWESOME!!!! When I get my hands on the full version I'm gonna be glued to it.

I'm going to max out my level on MW3 and then I'm trading that shit in to finish paying off ME3.

[Talisman]

That should be more clear when the game comes out. Basically from what I understand there's some sort of in-game "score" that determines what ending you get (this may not be a visible score, mind you...kind of like all those factors that determine who lives or dies in the "suicide mission" of Mass Effect 2). Doing things like playing a lot of multiplayer, or playing the "Mass Effect: Infiltrator" game on iOS will add points to that "score" and thus make it easier to get the best ending.

They've already said it's not impossible to get the best ending without doing any mutiplayer or out-of-game stuff. It's just a little bit easier with it. The in-universe explanation is basically that these other characters are accomplishing objectives or holding ground in such a way that it frees up Shepard and Co to do other things (or in the case of Infiltrator, you apparently end up gathering valuable intelligence that you pass on to Shepard).

Basically, your multiplayer character is the Wedge Antilles to Shepard's Luke Skywalker...off doing very heroic and important things, but not the "star of the show."

More on this from one of the ME3 Senior Developers (Manveer Heir), via Penny Arcade:

“As you know, Mass Effect 3 is all about the galactic war with the Reapers. We have designed a system to give players a status update on the state of their personal war as they progress through the game and accumulate war assets so they can take the fight back to the Reapers. The more you succeed in the game, the more war assets you earn and the more prepared you are to enter the final stages of the game.

An addition to this system is the Galaxy at War, which shows the player who controls which territories on the Galaxy Map and gives players an opportunity to enhance the total military strength of the galaxy by participating in optional things like Multiplayer, the iPhone app and the iPad game. You can get best possible outcome in the game by just playing single player if you want, as long as you are willing to do a lot of the side missions and content. However, maybe you only want to do a critical path run of the single player. Well, by playing multiplayer you also increase your galactic readiness rating can affect the final outcome. Using the iPhone Datapad app and the iPad Infiltrator game will also tie into Galaxy at War and update this final rating.

As a result, you can play the game how you want and not be negatively punished if you don’t want to play multiplayer or don’t own any iOS devices. You can do a little bit of all the four pieces and be able to get the best possible outcome. Or you can play a ton of multiplayer and just the critical single player stuff. Or just single player and all the side missions. We designed the system to give players choices, but also tie all the products together in a meaningful way beyond ‘unlock a new gun in single player.’ Galaxy at War is a really fun, interesting meta-game that is part of Mass Effect 3 and we think players will love it when they get the final game.”

[Steelgrave]

OH HELL FREAKIN YEAH!!!! I got finally got the Revenant assault rifle & the Viper sniper rifle. Now I'm good to go!

[Jmacq1]

Just out of curiousity: Is the multiplayer stuff people are unlocking in the demo going to carry over into the final game?

[Steelgrave]

This is friggin AWESOME!!!! When I get my hands on the full version I'm gonna be glued to it.

Scratch that. I've already been glued to it for the past few days.


Just out of curiousity: Is the multiplayer stuff people are unlocking in the demo going to carry over into the final game?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Multiplayer-Discussion-/Does-demo-progress-count-toward-actual-game-9334136-1.html

[Monkeywrench]

got my pre-order in

[pig iron grenadier]

Mass Effect 2 - Shepard & Tali after the Trial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TZGP8agWI)

[Talisman]

Mass Effect 2 - Shepard & Tali after the Trial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TZGP8agWI)

You really know how to tug at my heartstrings, Pig.

DAMN MY LEVO-AMINO ACID-BASED DNA!

[Steelgrave]

Ok, so now that we've had time to play it, why isn't anybody talking about it? I've been glued to it, can't stop playing.

[Talisman]

Ok, so now that we've had time to play it, why isn't anybody talking about it? I've been glued to it, can't stop playing.

And that would be why.

I've spotted a few kinks here and there in MP, though- powers not activating when off cool down, equipment glitching so that I can't fire, etc. Fairly minor stuff, but annoying nonetheless.

Apparently what we got is based on an outdated build, though, so there's a good chance those problems will be gone by the time we get the full product.

[pig iron grenadier]

I saw Tali on line the other day when I was loading updates......I have no time for MP right now, but I really wanna start playing some Wednesday night...

[pig iron grenadier]

Ok, so now that we've had time to play it, why isn't anybody talking about it? I've been glued to it, can't stop playing.

I have only played the Demo once so far.....I really enjoy it...a few different things so far, but it took off right where it left off. how awesome is that?

Anyone get grenades to work yet? I heard we were supposed to have them this time again..

[Steelgrave]

And that would be why.

I've spotted a few kinks here and there in MP, though- powers not activating when off cool down, equipment glitching so that I can't fire, etc. Fairly minor stuff, but annoying nonetheless.

Apparently what we got is based on an outdated build, though, so there's a good chance those problems will be gone by the time we get the full product.


Uh, okay...??? Not exactly what I was expecting but whatever.

I guess I'm moving over to the Bioware forum where the Mass Effect fans hang out.

[pig iron grenadier]

I belong to two Liara fan groups there. Hahah

[Jmacq1]

Uh, okay...??? Not exactly what I was expecting but whatever.

I guess I'm moving over to the Bioware forum where the Mass Effect fans hang out.

If by Mass Effect fans you mean "People who bitch about Mass Effect and Bioware as much as people here bitch about Hasbro and G.I. Joe" then yes, the Bioware forum has lots of Mass Effect fans.

[Talisman]

Anyone get grenades to work yet? I heard we were supposed to have them this time again..

Looks to me like it might be a class-restricted ability, or equipment piece not available in the Campaign demo. Certain Class/Race combinations get differing grenades in MP, though.

I belong to two Liara fan groups there. Hahah

I'm on a Tali, Ashley, and Vanguard group, obviously.

[Talisman]

Mass Effect 3: Take Earth Back Cinematic Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBktyyaV9LY)

[pig iron grenadier]

Looks to me like it might be a class-restricted ability, or equipment piece not available in the Campaign demo. Certain Class/Race combinations get differing grenades in MP, though.



I'm on a Tali, Ashley, and Vanguard group, obviously.

You are Tali's Man!

[Talisman]

You are Tali's Man!

I actually started using this name BEFORE I played Mass Effect.

It's weird, I tell ya.

[Talisman]

Okay, WTF.

Commander Shephard Bishoujo Statue - Mass Effect Statues (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KOT10871&mode=retail)

Goddammit Japan...

[Jmacq1]

Okay, WTF.

Commander Shephard Bishoujo Statue - Mass Effect Statues (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KOT10871&mode=retail)

Goddammit Japan...

Can't get too mad. If it weren't for Japan we wouldn't be getting the Play Arts Kai stuff, either......

[boff123]

saw they made a horde mode for me3? hope there is other content as well. i am not saying it is not good, i like it quite a bit but will they also have deathmatch and ctf, or territory type modes too?

[Immortal_Joker]

Multiplayer

Mass Effect 3 will offer a multiplayer co-op mode called "Galaxy at War". In the mode, players will be able to play alongside up to three other players in unique missions that can impact the outcome of the single player campaign. Each mission was designed specifically for multiplayer, and will involve taking over enemy strongholds. By completing these missions, players will give themselves a better chance of attaining a perfect ending in the single player campaign; although, they are not necessary to do so. The mode has been compared to Gears of War's horde mode.

No characters from the single player campaign will be featured in the multiplayer mode. Players will create brand new characters for themselves and be able to play as members of non-human species, including asari, drell, krogans, salarians, and turians.
Every race will have unique powers - such as a "Krogan Charge" for krogans and different movement options out of cover between drell and humans and all classes will be playable. The maximum level that created characters will be able to reach is 20, and just like in the single player mode, leveling up will include skill branches.

Gameplay in the multiplayer mode will only allow for players to carry two guns at a time in their inventory, and there will be no ring menu to change weapons; instead, weapons will be changed by holding down a button

[Talisman]

So turns out that we're in for a surprise when it comes to the Mass Effect 3 box...

Mass Effect 3: Unboxing - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62pM93iS4A)

[Talisman]

Alright. I am OFFENDED that I managed to miss this.

WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD, I AM NOT F***ING KIDDING!




Mass Effect 3 Squad Mate Images Leaked [SPOILER ALERT!] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts8DmDlkL8c)

[Iron Guru]

I didn't know about EDI, but I found out about the Prothean 2 days ago. I didn't really want to spoil it for anyone but, I'm glad it's been posted.

To anyone that will answer. What are your thoughts on this new info? Did anyone pre-order and if you did where from?

I know that Gamestop gives you armor, and a gun. Amazon gives you a gun, and anywhere that you pre-order from you automatically get a gun. So basically you’re getting 2 guns from pre-ordering at Gamestop or Amazon.

[Jmacq1]

Amazon only gives you one gun. The same preorder gun everyone else gets (The M55 Argus or something like that). Gamestop gets you armor and two guns (The M55 Argus and N7 Valkyrie Rifle).

For uber-completists, it might be worth noting that Mass Effect 2's Gamestop preorder bonuses (The Terminus Armor and Black Hole Launcher) were the ONLY items that were never made available anywhere else later. An unused preorder code for them now goes for $200-$300 on ebay. :P

My preorder is from Amazon, but I figured I'd warn people because I know a lot of folks tend to say "Oh, it'll come out as regular DLC somewhere down the line" where preorder bonuses are concerned.

[Bionic Commando]

Does anyone know how to read the location coordinates for the ME3 Space Edition?I'm going to try a shot for the NY location tomorrow

[boff123]

Amazon only gives you one gun. The same preorder gun everyone else gets (The M55 Argus or something like that). Gamestop gets you armor and two guns (The M55 Argus and N7 Valkyrie Rifle).

For uber-completists, it might be worth noting that Mass Effect 2's Gamestop preorder bonuses (The Terminus Armor and Black Hole Launcher) were the ONLY items that were never made available anywhere else later. An unused preorder code for them now goes for $200-$300 on ebay. :P

My preorder is from Amazon, but I figured I'd warn people because I know a lot of folks tend to say "Oh, it'll come out as regular DLC somewhere down the line" where preorder bonuses are concerned.

also get 10 dollar credit from amazon.

[Talisman]

I didn't know about EDI, but I found out about the Prothean 2 days ago. I didn't really want to spoil it for anyone but, I'm glad it's been posted.


Honestly I've known about "Prothy" since they first released info on the special content for the N7 Edition, including the spoiler that indicated a "Prothean Squadmate". But... wow. I just do not know how to react to that.

To anyone that will answer. What are your thoughts on this new info? Did anyone pre-order and if you did where from?

I know that Gamestop gives you armor, and a gun. Amazon gives you a gun, and anywhere that you pre-order from you automatically get a gun. So basically you’re getting 2 guns from pre-ordering at Gamestop or Amazon.

Same place I always do- GameStop. For completeness' sake here's a list of what you get for preordering and where.


Any preorder- M55 Argus Assault Rifle
Origin- AT12 Raider Shotgun
Gamestop/EB Games- N7 Warfare Gear (Defender Armor and N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle)
PlayStation Network (Digital Copy)- PS3 Home theme

[Iron Guru]

Honestly I've known about "Prothy" since they first released info on the special content for the N7 Edition, including the spoiler that indicated a "Prothean Squadmate". But... wow. I just do not know how to react to that.


Same place I always do- GameStop. For completeness' sake here's a list of what you get for preordering and where.


Any preorder- M55 Argus Assault Rifle
Origin- AT12 Raider Shotgun
Gamestop/EB Games- N7 Warfare Gear (Defender Armor and N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle)
PlayStation Network (Digital Copy)- PS3 Home theme


I didn't take notice of that info, because I don't buy collector's editions of games so I must have totally skipped that. For the past year I bought my games on sale and it's worked well for me. So that "Pro" info totally wasn't on my radar, even though thru part 2 I’d hoped they were still around.

I think I'm going to Pre-order from Gamestop, since they have the best bonus, and I get to stack they're deals. You get an extra 30% credit towards this game plus another 10% for being a pro member and, another $10 for trading in 3 games.

[Talisman]

I didn't take notice of that info, because I don't buy collector's editions of games so I must have totally skipped that. For the past year I bought my games on sale and it's worked well for me. So that "Pro" info totally wasn't on my radar, even though thru part 2 I’d hoped they were still around.

I think it's actually part of the "Alliance Network" content that you get with new copies of ME3.

[Alyosha]

Need 100% more Legion and the sniper rifle in this game. The M-98 Widow was the shit.

[RogueWingnut]

Need 100% more Legion and the sniper rifle in this game. The M-98 Widow was the shit.

Didnt they say if you completed a game of ME2, all your weapons carryover including the Widow?

[OSOK]

Alright. I am OFFENDED that I managed to miss this.

WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD, I AM NOT F***ING KIDDING!




so...what are you trying to say?

[Alyosha]

I checked the wiki, and the Widow is listed, apparently along with two more upgrades. The listed weapons for that class are:

M-13 Raptor
M-29 Incisor
M-90 Indra
M-92 Mantis
M-97 Viper
M-98 Widow
Black Widow
Javelin
N7 Valiant

Also, as per the wiki all your acquired weapons from ME2 do indeed transfer to ME3. Yippee!

[pig iron grenadier]

Need 100% more Legion and the sniper rifle in this game. The M-98 Widow was the shit.

Indeed. When not charging like a madman into battle I'd sit back and snipe with that bad boy!

[Steelgrave]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/highrisk.jpg

[Steelgrave]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/techarmor.jpg

[Steelgrave]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/ohshitatlas.jpg

[Talisman]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/highrisk.jpg

And insanely overpowered. Don't forget insanely overpowered.

[Talisman]

And now for a word from the ANN courtesy of the BioBlog...

From: Alliance News Network Information Partners

September 14, 2186

Cerberus expansion deemed “significant threat”

By Iris Dunnigan



CITADEL – A report by the salarian Special Tasks Group, warning of the increasing danger of human-supremacist group Cerberus, is garnering attention in the halls of the Citadel Tower. ANN has agreed not to publish the classified report’s contents, but experts within the STG, speaking on condition of anonymity, warn that what was once considered a small and extremely select group has grown drastically in size and power. “There has always been a segment of the human population that believes the Council government is lying to them,” said one agent. “Cerberus exploits that fear.” A confiscated recruitment video included in the report states the Cerberus mentality plainly: “Other species may talk with us, trade with us, even live with us, but when a crisis comes, we are on our own.”

Critics of the report are quick to point out its flaws. “This report covers ground that Spectre intelligence has already covered,” said one Tower insider. ”We know Cerberus has the ability to field many troops, build a stealth frigate, and conduct groundbreaking research. It’s been clear for months, even years, that Cerberus is growing in numbers, but when it comes to how Cerberus are able to do all this, STG only says, ‘we don’t know yet.’ It is past the point where that is acceptable.”

Oh if only they knew...

[Iron Guru]

How do you guys that don't plan on buying the N7 edition feel about not being able to get the extra content without paying for it?

You will be missing things like the Prothean squad mate, and the mission on Eden Prime if you don’t pay the $10 to get it.

Do you think that it’s fair for the standard edition of the game to be released missing the extra content, even though it will be available on the same day as the games release?

The reason I’m asking about this is, because I’ve seen people on other sites say they plan to boycott the game for this reason. They say that it’s content that was cut out of the game specifically to get more money from the customer’s, and since the content is available on the same day as it’s release that this backs up they’re claim.

[Talisman]

How do you guys that don't plan on buying the N7 edition feel about not being able to get the extra content without paying for it?

You will be missing things like the Prothean squad mate, and the mission on Eden Prime if you don’t pay the $10 to get it.

Do you think that it’s fair for the standard edition of the game to be released missing the extra content, even though it will be available on the same day as the games release?

The reason I’m asking about this is, because I’ve seen people on other sites say they plan to boycott the game for this reason. They say that it’s content that was cut out of the game specifically to get more money from the customer’s, and since the content is available on the same day as it’s release that this backs up they’re claim.

*twitch*

*twitch*

I just read a 27-page thread on The Escapist over this, and I'd really rather there not be a flamewar here. I'll just repeat what Casey Hudson has stated:

It takes about 3 months from 'content complete' to bug-fix, certify, manufacture, and ship game discs. In that time we work on DLC," he wrote. "DLC has fast cert and no mfg., so if a team works very hard, they can get a DLC done in time to enjoy it with your 1st playthrough on day 1. On #ME3, content creators completed the game in January & moved onto the 'From Ashes' DLC, free w/ the CE or you can buy seperately.

With that in mind, they did say, from day one, that this content would be available in the CE for "free", which is fair, in my mind (I may be biased, however). I've heard conflicting reports that without the DLC, "Prothy" is in the game and can be interacted with, but it is only with the DLC that he becomes a squaddie, in addition to all the other goodies bundled in (Eden Prime mission, new weapon, alternate squad outfits).

The fact is that the content was completed AFTER development of the full game was complete- they didn't "remove" any content from the game to encourage DLC sales. This is a true "add-on"- it's there if you'd like to enhance your game experience, but it is in no way vital to it, and you won't lose out on anything important without it.

[Iron Guru]

*twitch*

*twitch*

I just read a 27-page thread on The Escapist over this, and I'd really rather there not be a flamewar here. I'll just repeat what Casey Hudson has stated:

It takes about 3 months from 'content complete' to bug-fix, certify, manufacture, and ship game discs. In that time we work on DLC," he wrote. "DLC has fast cert and no mfg., so if a team works very hard, they can get a DLC done in time to enjoy it with your 1st playthrough on day 1. On #ME3, content creators completed the game in January & moved onto the 'From Ashes' DLC, free w/ the CE or you can buy seperately.

With that in mind, they did say, from day one, that this content would be available in the CE for "free", which is fair, in my mind (I may be biased, however). I've heard conflicting reports that without the DLC, "Prothy" is in the game and can be interacted with, but it is only with the DLC that he becomes a squaddie, in addition to all the other goodies bundled in (Eden Prime mission, new weapon, alternate squad outfits).

The fact is that the content was completed AFTER development of the full game was complete- they didn't "remove" any content from the game to encourage DLC sales. This is a true "add-on"- it's there if you'd like to enhance your game experience, but it is in no way vital to it, and you won't lose out on anything important without it.

No flames over here, but I do think this is an interesting development that is taking place. I wanted to know how the tankers that like this franchise, and plan to get this game feel about it. I read what he said, but these people that plan to boycott believe that he is lying, and that EA is behind this. I've read some comments that Bioware was somehow talked into this by EA. There is also some thought that this content could be vital to the game. I don't believe so, because if that was the case then there would be a real shitstorm. I do wonder though how much of the experience would be different if you don't have the content.

[megalodon]

How do you guys that don't plan on buying the N7 edition feel about not being able to get the extra content without paying for it?

I didn't preorder a copy, and I'm fine with it. The story is the most important part of the game to me. I'll still be able to get through the game without the extra rifle or armor.

When I first heard the news about the Prothean squadmate I thought it was kinda cool, so I'll admit that it's disappointing that he's not in the standard edition. But I probably wouldn't have used him much anyway.

[Jmacq1]

How do you guys that don't plan on buying the N7 edition feel about not being able to get the extra content without paying for it?

You will be missing things like the Prothean squad mate, and the mission on Eden Prime if you don’t pay the $10 to get it.

Do you think that it’s fair for the standard edition of the game to be released missing the extra content, even though it will be available on the same day as the games release?

The reason I’m asking about this is, because I’ve seen people on other sites say they plan to boycott the game for this reason. They say that it’s content that was cut out of the game specifically to get more money from the customer’s, and since the content is available on the same day as it’s release that this backs up they’re claim.

They did exactly the same thing with the Stone Prisoner DLC for Dragon Age 1. People need to get the stick out of their butts over this. Would they prefer they not have any opportunity to get any of it unless they bought a collector's edition?

Seriously...I paid my $20 extra or so for the collector's edition, so I get extra stuff. I think it's nice of Bioware to give other players the opportunity to get at least the "game content" portions, but hell yes they should have to pay for it. After all, I did.

I'll never understand people bitching about DLC. OK, I take that back, I understand people bitching about DLC when it's just unlocking stuff that's already on the disc, but DLC that's genuinely additional content (as this supposedly is) is just more content that you can take or leave as you please. If it's worth it to you, buy it, if it's not, then don't, but don't bitch because someone isn't giving you something for free.

Oh, and no, the content will not be "vital to the game." It may be very cool and add some more interesting setting information and whatnot, but it won't be "vital." It's entirely possible he won't even be a fully-voiced companion, and instead will be like Zaeed or Kasumi were in ME2. More of a "prop" character outside their personal loyalty missions.

[Steelgrave]

you guys that don't plan on buying the N7 edition

"IDIOT!!!" -Urdnot Wrex

[Talisman]

"IDIOT!!!" -Urdnot Wrex

I wish someone would make a Wrex soundboard for iOS and Android. That'd be wizard.

[Super Beast]

Man..I was really disappointed with the gameplay..I'm a harcore mass effect fan, but this game doesn't feel right...walking feels like floating, aiming is very loose, and it doesn't feel like the melee connects with anything...The omni blade is worthless as well...pretty disappointed...thus far.

Anyone else notice the change is Wrex's voice?

[Steelgrave]

Man..I was really disappointed with the gameplay..I'm a harcore mass effect fan, but this game doesn't feel right...walking feels like floating, aiming is very loose, and it doesn't feel like the melee connects with anything...The omni blade is worthless as well...pretty disappointed...thus far.

Anyone else notice the change is Wrex's voice?


How far did you get? I hated it at first too. But after I got used to it I loved it. And after watching the videos of the full version, it's going to be totally friggin INSANE! We haven't seen anything yet. I can't wait to see the Banshees in action.

[Talisman]

Man..I was really disappointed with the gameplay..I'm a harcore mass effect fan, but this game doesn't feel right...walking feels like floating, aiming is very loose, and it doesn't feel like the melee connects with anything...The omni blade is worthless as well...pretty disappointed...thus far.

Anyone else notice the change is Wrex's voice?

Keep in mind that the Demo is based on an earlier build, so this might not do a whole lot of justice to the finished product. I have a few problems with movement, but they're minimal at best.

As for Wrex, I think that the Single-player component pulls a lot from the earlier Su'kesh demo from last year- the voices might be placeholders, or it might be reflecting that Wrex is changed due to the events going on.

How far did you get? I hated it at first too. But after I got used to it I loved it. And after watching the videos of the full version, it's going to be totally friggin INSANE! We haven't seen anything yet. I can't wait to see the Banshees in action.

I'm actually quite terrified to fight the Banshees. But if they think they can be a bigger Biotic Pain in the Ass than ME, they have another thing coming.

[Angry.Android]

i really dug ME2...i bought it for $20 for PS3, and I'm almost finished with it...I downloaded the ME3 demo, and took it for a spin....I agree with the above poster, the control for shep's movement and aiming has too much give in it. It needs more traction, to be tightened up somehow. Game looked beautiful though. My wife saw it and asked me what i was watching...when i told her it was a videogame she was pretty suprised, enough that she sat down and watched me play it for a while.


Might turn her into a gamer yet ;)

[Super Beast]

After replaying the demo a few times now, I've succeeded in making my character much less ugly. And really, I'm feelin' it now.

Still feel like they robbed me of a few actions i've done as far is story is concerned from past games...

And Hopefully Wrex's voice doesn't stay so horrible. I've avoided most the press about this game, Because I want to be surprised by everything!