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kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 02:05 PM
Final Hasbro GI Joe 2010 QnA HISS Tank Answers - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/other-14/final-hasbro-gi-joe-2010-qna-hiss-tank-answers-10028/)


HISS Tank:

1) We have had numerous situations (not just G.I. Joe) where we have had a line tied into a Movie. Years of frustration, starting with Indiana Jones to the current Iron Man 2 figures. Retailers always order in large quantities of figures(mainly) to stock their shelves in hopes of selling all just because the product is tied to a Summer Movie. With years of experience, we as collectors know that there are numerous Waves of product to be released up to and beyond the holiday season. My question is, how can you sell enough product to retailers where both stores and Hasbro are both happy without saturating the pegs and shelves with the first couple of waves? Have you considered online-exclusive, single carded figures? Most kids(& COLLECTORS) get what they want within months release of a Wave. After the product just sits until the Holiday season, in hopes of selling the rest from the initial order. For example Rise of Cobra. Fans are worried that they might not be able to find figures such as the long awaited Low Light, in Pursuit Of Cobra Wave 4.

A)Believe me, we know how frustrating these situations can be. Our goal is always to make sure that we ship the correct amount of product. We want to move enough product quickly enough so that fans and kids can get all of the figures we have to offer. We hate to put work into a figure that never hits shelves as much as you hate not being able to get it. This is probably the hardest thing that we do and it is an inexact science. We do, however, spend a lot of time studying what happened in previous lines so that we can be smarter the next time around. This is all a long winded way of saying that we are working as hard as we can to make sure that stores, collectors, kids and Hasbro are all happy with the quantity and mix of product.

2) Are IDW GI Joe designs off limits, or is it too soon to make figures of them? We've seen figures based on DDP's designs, and with IDW comics such as GI JOE: COBRA, fans want comic-based designs and miss the comic packs!

A)IDW designs aren't off-limits, per se. These designs are just not part of our current strategy. Comic based designs and comic packs are something that come up frequently in conversations but we have no current plans for either. The reality is that they are just not feasible in the current line. They end up being too expensive and don't sell well enough to justify.

3) Is Sgt. Slaughter coming to retail as part of the Renegades line, or part of a separate line?

A) Unfortunately, the Sarge will not be available in mainline or any other line. Sorry.

Also don't forget to check out answers to questions over at our sister site, ToyArk (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)



here's the first one's from the TD... again... we're getting some clear answers.

Q1 - During the JoeCon Hasbro tour, we saw several figures and vehicles that were awesome, but unfortunately were canceled from the ROC, POC, and 25th lines (like, the ROC Howler, City Strike Scarlet, Desert Battle Heavy Duty, OC Raven, and a Zarana figure). Now that the POC line has been extended, and the 30th Anniversary line and the G.I. Joe Movie II is upcoming... are these protos possibly put back on the table? Zarana (and Zandar) almost seem like a no brainer.

A1 - We are really fortunate to have such a huge universe of characters and vehicles to choose from when making our lines. While I can't speak to all of the figures and vehicles that you reference, I can tell you that there is at least one that you mentioned that will make an appearance.


Q2 - Are there possibly any large vehicles planned? We have only seen small and mid-sized ones to-date. Re-issues or even totally new ones is what most of us would like to see.

A2 - Large? You wouldn't be hoping for a USS Flagg, would you? If so, we have no plans for that anytime soon. We do have some ideas for some larger vehicles than the midsize that we have been releasing. For now, however, the details are under wraps.


Q3 - The October Guard... any chance these GREAT Russki characters will make a return to the GI Joe mythos?

A3 - Now that they are remaking Red Dawn, it seems like the Red Scare is back in vogue. These were and are great characters in the G.I. Joe storyline, however, we don't have any plans for their return.

Links to December 2010 G.I. Joe Q & A's:

ToyArks Answers: ToyArks Joe December 2010 Answers (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)

Terrordrome answers: The Terror Drome December 2010 Round 5 Hasbro G.I. Joe Q&A Session (http://www.theterrordrome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10149)

Collectors Club answers: GIJOECLUB.COM - The Official G.I. Joe Collectors' Club! (http://www.gijoeclub.com/dec10qna.cfm)

TNI answers: Hasbro December 2010 Q&A G.I.Joe - TNI (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16657)

Generals Joes answers: GeneralsJoes December 2010 Answers (http://generalsjoes.com/2010/12/10/hasbros-g-i-joe-q-a-answer-day-is-here/)

Joe Battlelines: Joe Battlelines December 2010 Answers (http://www.joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=16516)

Blood For The Baron: Blood for the Baron December 2010 Answers (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=113018&sid=c043e7d968c625aa60557546abe4a508#p113018)

Tri-State Vipers answers: The Tri-State G.I.Joe Collectors Forum! Hasbro Q & A ~ Plumped like a Holiday Bird Edition! (http://www.violentfix.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4462&start=15)

Action Figure News.CA answers: Action Figure News.CA December 2010 Answers (http://www.actionfigurenews.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=6132)

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 02:18 PM
I'd bet that "one" figure mentioned is the City Strike Scarlett.

Jmacq1
12-10-2010, 02:22 PM
I bet you're right. Kills two birds with one stone: "Where's the wemmins?" and "What about the cancelled figures?"

Personally, I'd like to see a new head (and maybe helmet) slapped on Arctic Assault Duke and just call him "Blizzard."

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 02:23 PM
I hope it's Zarana... that was a great figure. We were all drooling over it on the Hasbro tour :D

Black Llama
12-10-2010, 02:26 PM
With our luck it's Roadblock....

EduardimusPrime
12-10-2010, 02:32 PM
It's nice to see we may have some larger scale vehicles. Hopefully they won't royally suck. I'm hopeful.

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Collectors CLub answers:

GIJOECLUB.COM - The Official G.I. Joe Collectors' Club! (http://www.gijoeclub.com/dec10qna.cfm)

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 02:34 PM
Toy News International answers:

Hasbro Q&A Session With The G.I.Joe Brand Team - GI Joe - ToyNewsI.com (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16657)

RATFINK
12-10-2010, 02:36 PM
calling it its zarana

OSOK
12-10-2010, 02:37 PM
no flagg? :(

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 02:39 PM
Collectors CLub answers:

GIJOECLUB.COM - The Official G.I. Joe Collectors' Club! (http://www.gijoeclub.com/dec10qna.cfm)

Those were some of the best answers from Hasbro... ever.

ArcticCG
12-10-2010, 02:44 PM
With our luck it's Roadblock....

YES! We need more roadblocks! THD(

Monkeywrench
12-10-2010, 03:36 PM
great! Thanks King

Black Llama
12-10-2010, 03:41 PM
TNI: When the second G.I.Joe movie comes out, will you start basing the figures on the movie actors again?

Hasbro: Still awaiting an answer on this one.

Dear Santa, please make the answer to this NO

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 03:42 PM
TNI: When the second G.I.Joe movie comes out, will you start basing the figures on the movie actors again?

Hasbro: Still awaiting an answer on this one.

Dear Santa, please make the answer to this NO

if they do MAKE COMPLETELY NEW ONES!!!!! the old ones were crap!

RuckusJr
12-10-2010, 03:51 PM
no flagg? :(

Huge surprise there. Especially after that thread about the guy who called Hasbro and asked about wave 5 vehicles and was told a Flagg was in the works under a top secret file, lol. Where is that thread? It's as epic as EpicStevenD's claim of 11000 V1 Vipers.

Black Swan
12-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Those were some of the best answers from Hasbro... ever.
I agree. About time Hasbro gave some straight answers. Now where is Zarana ?

OSOK
12-10-2010, 04:02 PM
Huge surprise there. Especially after that thread about the guy who called Hasbro and asked about wave 5 vehicles and was told a Flagg was in the works under a top secret file, lol. Where is that thread? It's as epic as EpicStevenD's claim of 11000 V1 Vipers.
regardless, that dude is my hero :)

luigi
12-10-2010, 04:23 PM
no flagg? :(

you expect a flagg when the roc pit failed

snakeeyes566
12-10-2010, 04:38 PM
cool, i hope we get at least 2 more waves

luigi
12-10-2010, 04:40 PM
cool, i hope we get at least 2 more waves

lets hope for more than 2 more waves

manicmotive
12-10-2010, 04:46 PM
They say they have no plans for a Flagg anytime soon. They didn't completely rule out the possibility of one in the future. Not saying it's gonna happen, just that it could.

Jatta Pake
12-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Huge surprise there. Especially after that thread about the guy who called Hasbro and asked about wave 5 vehicles and was told a Flagg was in the works under a top secret file, lol. Where is that thread? It's as epic as EpicStevenD's claim of 11000 V1 Vipers.

13,500 V1 Vipers to be precise. But who keeps count after 13,450 really?

EpicStevenD is awesome.

ScarecrowMan666
12-10-2010, 04:50 PM
So POC is being extended?

snakeeyes566
12-10-2010, 04:56 PM
i just read that we are still getting more snake eyes and stormie for 2011...cool

Storm
12-10-2010, 05:03 PM
A1 - We are really fortunate to have such a huge universe of characters and vehicles to choose from when making our lines. While I can't speak to all of the figures and vehicles that you reference, I can tell you that there is at least one that you mentioned that will make an appearance.

I bet this 1 figure will be CS Scarlett or Desert Heave Duty (or difirent character but on this molds) becouse they have molds for them already and since they said before that they dont plan any female toys, we can expect that Desert Heavy Duty mold

Black Llama
12-10-2010, 05:06 PM
13,500 V1 Vipers to be precise. But who keeps count after 13,450 really?

EpicStevenD is awesome.

I swear to hell that is the Tank's moment. It's like, where were you when EpicStevenD posted this.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Final 2010 GI Joe QnA Answers (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)

vermillion21
12-10-2010, 05:11 PM
Thanks for posting these links kingofpain26 & Shin ...

TheRealDubya
12-10-2010, 05:14 PM
They say they have no plans for a Flagg anytime soon. They didn't completely rule out the possibility of one in the future. Not saying it's gonna happen, just that it could.

It's not going to happen unless:

a.) It is in the next movie and all of the top buyers for the top retailers are new people and they have no access to historical metrics
b.) It is in Renegades and by some miracle that show becomes a gargantuan hit
c.) The zombie apocalypse hits and those of us that survive make our way to Pawtucket and do it ourselves.

And besides, the Flagg is pretty overrated. I've had two, I love GI Joe, and it's just this huge lump of plastic.

I would much rather they redo the WHALE or Skystriker.

kneroh
12-10-2010, 05:16 PM
Toy News International answers:

Hasbro Q&A Session With The G.I.Joe Brand Team - GI Joe - ToyNewsI.com (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16657)

I love how they mentioned Sci Fi. That is enough for me to get my hopes up!

vermillion21
12-10-2010, 05:23 PM
Final Hasbro GI Joe 2010 QnA HISS Tank Answers - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/other-14/final-hasbro-gi-joe-2010-qna-hiss-tank-answers-10028/)

No 25th Sgt. Slaughter mass release???? Fawk.

*sigh*

Black Llama
12-10-2010, 05:24 PM
No 25th Sgt. Slaughter mass release???? Fawk.

*sigh*

Completely not going to happen. Mattel from last I heard has exclusive rights on Slaughter again from what I heard last.

Dawg99
12-10-2010, 05:25 PM
I hope it's Zarana

RuckusJr
12-10-2010, 05:27 PM
Didn't someone say that Hasbro said that Slaughter would see some sort of release in the future?

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 05:30 PM
Didn't someone say that Hasbro said that Slaughter would see some sort of release in the future?

Hasbro themselves said it in an email/press release IIRC.

vermillion21
12-10-2010, 05:30 PM
Didn't someone say that Hasbro said that Slaughter would see some sort of release in the future?

That's what I thought, or maybe thought I read somewhere ...

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 05:33 PM
I love how they mentioned Sci Fi. That is enough for me to get my hopes up!

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... it has to be a hint that he's in the works.

Cloud Strife
12-10-2010, 05:35 PM
Since they said that they're planning on releasing 2 female figures in 2011, my hopes of Zarana being released are still alive!

Don't you dare break my heart Hasbro!

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 05:36 PM
generals Joes

Final 2010 GI Joe QnA Answers (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 05:37 PM
Toyark

Final 2010 GI Joe QnA Answers (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)

M. Aster Karver
12-10-2010, 05:38 PM
Female, that is all I ask. City Strike Scarlett, Zarana, Dressing Room Lady Jaye, Bikini Baroness, just FEMALE!

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 05:39 PM
Suddenly pulling the mass release Sgt. Slaughter is just bad form after they promised to re-release him. I'm rather disgusted by that about face.

The good news is the first answer from the Club's questions.I like that they'll do a 25th style update frist before other versions.

BvH
12-10-2010, 05:40 PM
No news on Ashiko with Cycle Armor makes BvH a sad panda. :(

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/kincadedm/ForumFunnies/2129665385_c6880f292b.jpg

kneroh
12-10-2010, 05:42 PM
The hisstank needs to find a way to ask an even wordier question next time. It should be like a game to one up themselves every month.

vermillion21
12-10-2010, 05:45 PM
No news on Ashiko with Cycle Armor makes BvH a sad panda. :(

Ditto. I wanted that "Mospeada cyclone" rip-off ...
:)

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 05:45 PM
The hisstank needs to find a way to ask an even wordier question next time. It should be like game to one up themselves every month.

Plenty more where that came from :D

OSOK
12-10-2010, 05:50 PM
you expect a flagg when the roc pit failed
gotta stay positive, i bought 2 PITs of course i waited till they were 75% off, but thats not the point
They say they have no plans for a Flagg anytime soon. They didn't completely rule out the possibility of one in the future. Not saying it's gonna happen, just that it could.
i hope they make one, i need a new center piece on my coffee table
Didn't someone say that Hasbro said that Slaughter would see some sort of release in the future?
i thought someone said they would be released at TJ Maxx or something, who are we kidding Ross will get them
The hisstank needs to find a way to ask an even wordier question next time. It should be like amgame to one up themselves every month.
im sure that can be arranged

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 06:01 PM
somehow.. if Slaughter does make an appearance...I thinkit may be a Joecon exclusive.. if we see it at all...

this may confirm that Hasbro may have Not gotten the green light to make more from Mattell.

MWG
12-10-2010, 06:08 PM
My heart sank a bit on the Slaughter news also. I understand plans can change suddenly, but Hasbro really should have made sure this was finalized before announcing it. They let a lot of collectors get there hopes up on something that apparently was not a sure thing.

+-MWG-+

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 06:09 PM
I hope to gawd that "one" figure mentioned is Zarana, I begged the Joe design Team all JoeCon weekend to push the living daylights out of her... she was soooo awesome.

Ricardogasjr
12-10-2010, 06:09 PM
Did anyone read the answers to GeneralJoes ( Hasbro’s G.I. Joe Q & A Answer Day is here! | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2010/12/10/hasbros-g-i-joe-q-a-answer-day-is-here/) )?
WOW... bring them HASBRO.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:10 PM
I hope to gawd that "one" figure is Zarana, I begged the Joe design Team all JoeCon weekend to push the living daylights out of her... she was soooo awesome.

Chances are higher if she did not use a head sculpt with a movie likeness.

Zefram
12-10-2010, 06:10 PM
Still with the crap about female figures not selling. I want actual numbers before I believe that. And even if so, why not stick 'em in a comic pack with a guaranteed seller?

You tellin' me a SE/Jinx/Kamakura pack wouldn't sell?

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:11 PM
My heart sank a bit on the Slaughter news also. I understand plans can change suddenly, but Hasbro really should have made sure this was finalized before announcing it. They let a lot of collectors get there hopes up on something that apparently was not a sure thing.

+-MWG-+

I wonder if it was out of their hands though, like maybe WWE was really the reason, and/or Mattel. Hasbro did want Slaughter rereleased.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:12 PM
Still with the crap about female figures not selling. I want actual numbers before I believe that. And even if so, why not stick 'em in a comic pack with a guaranteed seller?

You tellin' me a SE/Jinx/Kamakura pack wouldn't sell?

Hey I'd buy that set, but they also said comic packs were too expensive to produce. As for actual numbers, they won't reveal that.

Still, it does feel like the time we didn't get Scarlett in Sigma 6. However, the good thing is, we'll get at least 2 female figures next year.

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:12 PM
No retail Slaughter = a sad SNAKE EYES :(

Gyre-Viper
12-10-2010, 06:12 PM
I'd bet that "one" figure mentioned is the City Strike Scarlett.
I bet you're right. Kills two birds with one stone: "Where's the wemmins?" and "What about the cancelled figures?"

I hope it's Zarana... that was a great figure. We were all drooling over it on the Hasbro tour :D
calling it its zarana


I don't think it's CS Scarlett. They wouldn't use the actress sculpt which means sculpting an all new head to fit her mask (unless they do away with the mask). Plus every time someone brought up Zarana to the design team after the tour... the team acknowledged how much enthusiasm they had heard regarding the figure on the tour and following the tour. Plus everyone who loves the new POC Dreadnok really loves him and wants more Dreadnoks. We don't need another Scarlett at this point but we do need a Zarana. Besides... I think Hasbro is more likely to put out a Dreadnok cuz they can always release more Dreadnoks a la 'one good Dreadnok deserves another' as opposed to Scarlett who is old news.
But it could be Scarlett... AND maybe Zarana as well. I do concur that Zarana is a 'no brainer' as long as she somewhat embodies what we saw at con. I mean that thing will always be legendary in my mind.

Didn't someone say that Hasbro said that Slaughter would see some sort of release in the future?
Hasbro themselves said it in an email/press release IIRC.
Suddenly pulling the mass release Sgt. Slaughter is just bad form after they promised to re-release him. I'm rather disgusted by that about face.



they probably tried but if it's contractual strife between the two biggest toy companies out there... well... what can they do?

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:16 PM
@ Gyre

I think your right it's going to be Zarana they said in one of the Q & A's that they have been paying attention to the fan polls and if I remember right Zarana came in pretty close to the top in one of them.

Edit:

Here's the one I was talking about...

TNI: After wave 4 of the Pursuit of Cobra figures (Low Light wave) hit shelves which should be soon now, what might Joe fans have to look forward to in regards to new product?

Hasbro: Clearly, Low Light and Skydive should be an indication of where we are taking the line for 2011. Fans can look forward to new interpretations of classic characters. We have looked through fan polls and think that you will be happy with the figures that we have chosen.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:17 PM
Mattel is rumored to be working on a 3-3/4" line, I'm thinking maybe they too, wanted to make a Sgt Slaughter at that scale, and were able to obtain exclusive license for it.

OSOK
12-10-2010, 06:24 PM
maybe a terror drome is in the works

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 06:26 PM
isn't scarlett comming out anyway in the renegade's line?

( I hope thats not one of the females they're talking about)

but yeah, My money is on Zarana, after the proto they showed us on the hasbro tour.

but I hope they do find a way to get city strike out...

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:26 PM
If they do I'll buy it, but Zarana is a must in my opinion.

Beckley
12-10-2010, 06:27 PM
I liked all of Hasbro's answers, all in all a very good round of Q & A's.
I loved the response where Hasbro didn't want to sound "long-winded", please, be as long-winded as you want, ramble on, we will listen!
I could care less about Slaughter or a Flagg, but still want CS Scarlett & Zarana.

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:29 PM
I liked all of Hasbro's answers, all in all a very good round of Q & A's.

Agreed... one of the best.

I could care less about Slaughter or a Flagg

Blasphemy :D

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 06:29 PM
@ Gyre

I think your right it's going to be Zarana they said in one of the Q & A's that they have been paying attention to the fan polls and if I remember right Zarana came in pretty close to the top in one of them.

Edit:

Here's the one I was talking about...

TNI: After wave 4 of the Pursuit of Cobra figures (Low Light wave) hit shelves which should be soon now, what might Joe fans have to look forward to in regards to new product?

Hasbro: Clearly, Low Light and Skydive should be an indication of where we are taking the line for 2011. Fans can look forward to new interpretations of classic characters. We have looked through fan polls and think that you will be happy with the figures that we have chosen.


I'm hoping guys like Lifeline, Airtight, Blizzard, and Claymore are also included.

There's been a lot of polls, and hopefully that means a LOT of new figures. PLEASE!

ultramax
12-10-2010, 06:30 PM
Good news is more joes in 2011!!!!!!!! Cant wait till toy fair in February!!!!!

How did toyark know that poc sci fi was cancelled??? Was it ever announced????

Gyre-Viper
12-10-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm hoping guys like Lifeline, Airtight, Blizzard, and Claymore are also included.

There's been a lot of polls, and hopefully that means a LOT of new figures. PLEASE!


why do you think I started so many polls? both specific and open-ended. heheheh. Hasbro knows how to make people happy if they know WHAT will make said people happy.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:33 PM
Good news is more joes in 2011!!!!!!!! Cant wait till toy fair in February!!!!!

How did toyark know that poc sci fi was cancelled??? Was it ever announced????

It was announced IIRC last year, then confirmed canceled last year AFAIK.

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:34 PM
why do you think I started so many polls? both specific and open-ended. heheheh.

I knew there was a method to your madness :D

Gyre-Viper
12-10-2010, 06:34 PM
Good news is more joes in 2011!!!!!!!! Cant wait till toy fair in February!!!!!

How did toyark know that poc sci fi was cancelled??? Was it ever announced????



Hasbro brought up Sci-Fi all on their own I think. Hang on let me go look at the question again. But I thought no one mentioned Sci-Fi and they answered with 'Sci-Fi.'

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 06:35 PM
Chances are higher if she did not use a head sculpt with a movie likeness.


She didn't, she looked like Duenan Knute from Appleseed. Best Joe female headsculpt I have ever seen on a Hasbro figure. :D

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 06:36 PM
Hasbro brought up Sci-Fi all on their own I think. Hang on let me go look at the question again. But I thought no one mentioned Sci-Fi and they answered with 'Sci-Fi.'

Yes your right they brought it up on their own.

soundwavempl
12-10-2010, 06:37 PM
Best round of answers I have seen by Hasbro EVER!!!

I will be so pumped to see this guy in POC:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/soundwavempl-albums-joe+album-picture4329-scifi.jpg

I just hope they are not afraid of keeping the bright green colors! It really makes him stand out and POP!

Oh, are there any pics of the Zarana from the Hasbro tour? Is she pretty accurate to the original figure then? I hope she is much better executed than Monkeywrench was.

Gyre-Viper
12-10-2010, 06:37 PM
She didn't, she looked like Duenan Knute from Appleseed. Best Joe female headsculpt I have ever seen on a Hasbro figure. :D


and you were sitting in the back of the room! THAT's how firing that sculpt was. ZOk! Zok!

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 06:40 PM
^ hee hee hee... yes, but remember I ran up at the end of the presentation to get a better look at her highness! ^_-
Good from afar or upclose the perfect girl!!

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:40 PM
She didn't, she looked like Duenan Knute from Appleseed. Best Joe female headsculpt I have ever seen on a Hasbro figure. :D

Which Duenan though? Manga, original OVA, newer OVA's?

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 06:42 PM
Yes your right they brought it up on their own.

Interesting. I'd say that's definitely a hint.

Hopefully there's also truth to the rumor that lifeline and airtight had been planned and cancelled.

evilanimation
12-10-2010, 06:44 PM
I'm keeping my slaughters moc after reading this... Just got a BNB so the others will be packed away.

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 06:45 PM
Best round of answers I have seen by Hasbro EVER!!!

I will be so pumped to see this guy in POC:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/soundwavempl-albums-joe+album-picture4329-scifi.jpg

I just hope they are not afraid of keeping the bright green colors! It really makes him stand out and POP!

Oh, are there any pics of the Zarana from the Hasbro tour? Is she pretty accurate to the original figure then? I hope she is much better executed than Monkeywrench was.


unfortunetly they wouldnt let us take pics of the canceled stuff.. but she looked ok.

If i remember she came with a baroness disguise.

as for sci-fi..

conisdering one of the answers they gave:
TNI: After wave 4 of the Pursuit of Cobra figures (Low Light wave) hit shelves which should be soon now, what might Joe fans have to look forward to in regards to new product?

Hasbro: Clearly, Low Light and Skydive should be an indication of where we are taking the line for 2011. Fans can look forward to new interpretations of classic characters. We have looked through fan polls and think that you will be happy with the figures that we have chosen.

GIJCC Question 1: How do you decide whether a new figure design is to be a new character or an updated version of an existing character?
Hasbro Answers: This is a great question, and it ends up being a somewhat difficult strategic decision. It is oftentimes based on whether or not a "25th/80's Tribute" version of a 'Fan Favorite' has been made or not of the character, as well as the collective popularity of that figure. For example, if we were going to put out a Sci-Fi figure, we would want his to be 25th accurate, like we did with Low Light. But for other characters which have had a decent "80's tribute" version done (like Recondo or Beachhead) we are more free in a creative sense to re-interpret the essence and persona of that character into a Modern Combat setting.
its most likely, like low light that sci-fi would be more like the original RAH uniform, instead of updated... if they so update it, would probably be just the weapons.

Derek
12-10-2010, 06:46 PM
That one is going to be Zandar.

Monkeywrench
12-10-2010, 06:46 PM
Suddenly pulling the mass release Sgt. Slaughter is just bad form after they promised to re-release him. I'm rather disgusted by that about face.

The good news is the first answer from the Club's questions.I like that they'll do a 25th style update frist before other versions.

this^^

CrimsonGuard101
12-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Hope it's city strike scarlett she is freaking awesome...boo to zarana..I already made a kickass one so I dont need her thanks to slayerdesigns...but that city strike scarlett...prrrrrrrrrrrr

245am
12-10-2010, 06:49 PM
I'd bet that "one" figure mentioned is the City Strike Scarlett.

I'd be more than OK with this...

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 06:50 PM
Which Duenan though? Manga, original OVA, newer OVA's?


Most like this with gold armor & white hair (with a pink stripe) & headband...

OSOK
12-10-2010, 06:50 PM
gi joe is doomed without the Flagg, im starting that thread

CrimsonGuard101
12-10-2010, 06:51 PM
Most like this with gold armor & white hair (with a pink stripe) & headband...

THOSE would make kick ass POC figures...

Zefram
12-10-2010, 06:51 PM
Generals Joes answers: Final 2010 GI Joe QnA Answers (http://www.toyark.com/news/gi-joe-toy-news-11/final-2010-gi-joe-qna-answers-3555/)

Why does the General Joes link take me to Toyark? >_>

CrimsonGuard101
12-10-2010, 06:52 PM
gi joe is doomed without the Flagg, im starting that thread

Actually Joe is doomed without a new Skystriker...gotta have something new for the deck of that carrier...

Ricardogasjr
12-10-2010, 06:53 PM
Here is the correct link to Generaljoes:

Hasbro’s G.I. Joe Q & A Answer Day is here! | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2010/12/10/hasbros-g-i-joe-q-a-answer-day-is-here/)

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 06:54 PM
THOSE would make kick ass POC figures...


Yes Zarana had very little resemblance to the 80's but she was all "Masmune Shirow-ed out ala Appleseed." Everyone loved her, including the designers, & I think she'll be a big hit with fandom.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 06:55 PM
Most like this with gold armor & white hair (with a pink stripe) & headband...

Ah so new OVA style. I can dig it.

gi joe is doomed without the Flagg, im starting that thread

Waiting for Hasbro to make a FLAGG is like waiting for them to stop making Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander figures. Each year, those characters get new figures, each year, fans wish for Hasbro to make a FLAGG but never get one.

The more realistic scenario is them making an all new Terrordrome. However, even with that, I'd cross my fingers.

kneroh
12-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Waiting for Hasbro to make a FLAGG is like waiting for them to stop making Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander figures. Each year, those characters get new figures, each year, fans wish for Hasbro to make a FLAGG but never get one.

The more realistic scenario is them making an all new Terrordrome. However, even with that, I'd cross my fingers.

I'm being proactive. I buy every single new Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander, melt down and use the plastic to mold my own flagg. I'm a bout 60 or each away. So keep the Dukes and SEs coming Hasbro!

OSOK
12-10-2010, 07:01 PM
Actually Joe is doomed without a new Skystriker...gotta have something new for the deck of that carrier...
thats true, they will probably make a repaint of the 25th style one


Waiting for Hasbro to make a FLAGG is like waiting for them to stop making Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander figures. Each year, those characters get new figures, each year, fans wish for Hasbro to make a FLAGG but never get one.

The more realistic scenario is them making an all new Terrordrome. However, even with that, I'd cross my fingers.
i know haha, i think the terror drome is in the realm of possibility

I'm being proactive. I buy every single new Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander, melt down and use the plastic to mold my own flagg. I'm a bout 60 or each away. So keep the Dukes and SEs coming Hasbro!
now thats a good idea haha

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 07:01 PM
I'm being proactive. I buy every single new Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander, melt down and use the plastic to mold my own flagg. I'm a bout 60 or each away. So keep the Dukes and SEs coming Hasbro!

A little piece of me died when I read this... you can't melt Snake Eyes... don't do it kneroh... please :(

now thats a good idea haha

No it's a horrible idea.

How could you guys even think of doing that after Hasbro gave us this masterpiece.
http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss299/Snake-Eyes_/PoCSnakeEyes.jpg

You ungrateful bastards :D

kneroh
12-10-2010, 07:06 PM
A little piece of me died when I read this... you can't melt Snake Eyes... don't do it kneroh... please :(

He only gets used to mold the guns, missiles and radar. I'm staying true to his roots and using him for detection and destruction.

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 07:08 PM
A little piece of me died when I read this... you can't melt Snake Eyes... don't do it kneroh... please :(



No it's a horrible idea.

How could you guys even think of doing that after Hasbro gave us this masterpiece.
http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss299/Snake-Eyes_/PoCSnakeEyes.jpg

You ungrateful bastards :D

^ Happy for ya buddy!! Best Snake Eyes EVAH!!

Blaster'spunchingbagg
12-10-2010, 07:09 PM
That one is going to be Zandar.

It would be typical of Hasbro to do Zandar before Zarana. I wouldn't be shocked in the least. It's like this, "We have a very small little crumb to keep y'all interested in what's going on." We know what you guys really want but come back in say IDK 15 years or so when your prostate is shriveled up and then only then will we see.


I got so F'ing frustrated waiting for them to make a Jinx, I caved and bought parts from SDS, not that I don't love their work, nor am I disparaging customizers, but I really don't do IKEA joes, it's not my job to make toys, I pay toy companies, (might I say) top dollar to do the job for me. My GD collection looks baron without the sexiest ninja of all time, aside from Psylocke, but is she really a ninja? or a super-hero?

07GT500 COBRA
12-10-2010, 07:15 PM
No re-release of Slaughter as was previously said was gonna happen? Way to fumble the ball there, Hasbro.

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 07:27 PM
No re-release of Slaughter as was previously said was gonna happen? Way to fumble the ball there, Hasbro.



Ok guys they said no MASS RELEASE of Slaughter...

which means slaugher MIGHT be available at joecon, the way Pimp daddy destro and Cobra commander was.

MAKE YOUR JOECON ALLIES NOW!!!

Gyre-Viper
12-10-2010, 07:27 PM
here's more info on Sgt Slaughter and Hasbro


hasbro sgt slaughter? (http://www.ding.net/wikileaks/234867.txt)




++++++

TripleCP
12-10-2010, 07:31 PM
I'm bummed about their Oktober Guard answer. "Yeah, they're awesome and surprisingly enough, it would be kind of timely to make them...but sorry, no chance..."

sithewok
12-10-2010, 07:38 PM
I'm bummed about their Oktober Guard answer. "Yeah, they're awesome and surprisingly enough, it would be kind of timely to make them...but sorry, no chance..."

Yeah, that answer bummed me out as well.

All in all, though, another round of primarily positive news. Can't wait to see the reports from Toy fair in Feb. Hopefully, we will all be very happy with what we see.

As far as female figures, I imagine CS Scarlett would be the easiest for them to make as the body mold already exists, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that Zarana. I would love for her to show up in the line.

Jettfire
12-10-2010, 07:39 PM
Nice one, Goggles.

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 07:43 PM
I just got "rick-rolled!!" lol!!

luigi
12-10-2010, 07:51 PM
I just got "rick-rolled!!" lol!!

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/9/rickrolled128548468380445676.jpg

click here if you dare (http://fragg.me/video/rick-rolled)

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 08:00 PM
I'm being proactive. I buy every single new Snake Eyes/Duke/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander, melt down and use the plastic to mold my own flagg. I'm a bout 60 or each away. So keep the Dukes and SEs coming Hasbro!

Wow your USS FLAGG will really be iconic and have "brand recognition"...literally made of the most iconic GI Joe characters.

Ok guys they said no MASS RELEASE of Slaughter...

which means slaugher MIGHT be available at joecon, the way Pimp daddy destro and Cobra commander was.

MAKE YOUR JOECON ALLIES NOW!!!

Hopefully online exclusive. Easier to order something off of BBTS for example, than trying to get a con exclusive.

minitrue
12-10-2010, 08:03 PM
These really were some of the most specific answers they have ever given. Maybe someone new is in charge of writing the responses.

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 08:04 PM
Hopefully online exclusive. Easier to order something off of BBTS for example, than trying to get a con exclusive.

not really a "con" exclusive.

remember in 07 and 08 Hasbro allowed the club to sell a quantity of PPDs and podium Commanders?

I'm thinking this may be the case again.

Black Swan
12-10-2010, 08:10 PM
No retail Slaughter = a sad SNAKE EYES :(
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HASBRO Q& A
Is Sgt. Slaughter coming to retail as part of the Renegades line, or part of a separate line?
A) Unfortunately, the Sarge will not be available in mainline or any
other line. Sorry.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I was at Slaughter Con. This news bums me out.:( F5 Forever !

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 08:11 PM
I hope that you guys that are pining for Zarana don't get disappointed next spring. Hasbro isn't too big on the female figures. They are big on keeping Joe based on a core group of characters.

If Hasbro comes through without last minute changes and there are any female figures next year it's going to be Scarlett and the Baroness.

Zarana, 30th Anniversary. Maybe.

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 08:12 PM
^ Happy for ya buddy!! Best Snake Eyes EVAH!!

Ha ha thanks SB

I took off the shoulder knife sheath because I thought it looked to big, but other than that he's perfect :)

Headman
12-10-2010, 08:30 PM
How come the tank never asks any of my questions? I know as a fact you people wanna know what the bathrooms at hasbro hq smell like!

Solrac333
12-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Follow up to question 3: Why?

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 08:34 PM
I hope that you guys that are pining for Zarana don't get disappointed next spring. Hasbro isn't too big on the female figures. They are big on keeping Joe based on a core group of characters.

If Hasbro comes through without last minute changes and there are any female figures next year it's going to be Scarlett and the Baroness.

Zarana, 30th Anniversary. Maybe.

the figure already exists. it was shown on the Hasbro tour during this past Joecon...

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 08:37 PM
the figure already exists. it was shown on the Hasbro tour during this past Joecon...

So does the Scarlett. And she is considered "core".

For the record, even though I have no interest in a Zarana, I hope those who do ask for her, do get her. And I could be wrong. But when you have a Scarlett who is also already made and a new cartoon aimed at kids just lifting off the ground with Scarlett and Baroness as the core females, Zarana is probably far-fetched.

There's probably a good chance she'll be around for the 30th anniversary stuff if that still happens.

MeLikeJinx
12-10-2010, 08:40 PM
First you say you are going to re-release 25th Alpine... then you don't. Then you say you are going to re-release 25th Sgt. Slaughter... then you don't. *sigh* Hasbro, Hasbro... *shakes head* I didn't want to do this... but you leave me no choice.

luigi
12-10-2010, 08:43 PM
How come the tank never asks any of my questions? I know as a fact you people wanna know what the bathrooms at hasbro hq smell like!

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/12/10/04e95880-5795-4b7d-8665-ac014d348be8.jpg
also they smell minty fresh

Headman
12-10-2010, 08:47 PM
First you say you are going to re-release 25th Alpine... then you don't. Then you say you are going to re-release 25th Sgt. Slaughter... then you don't. *sigh* Hasbro, Hasbro... *shakes head* I didn't want to do this... but you leave me no choice.

Atleast you know you're getting more Destros and Snake Eyes.

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 08:48 PM
So does the Scarlett. And she is considered "core".

For the record, even though I have no interest in a Zarana, I hope those who do ask for her, do get her. And I could be wrong. But when you have a Scarlett who is also already made and a new cartoon aimed at kids just lifting off the ground with Scarlett and Baroness as the core females, Zarana is probably far-fetched.

There's probably a good chance she'll be around for the 30th anniversary stuff if that still happens.

the difference is

Scarlet has a likeness head, which would either mean paying the actress likeness rights, or retooling the head. (noticed how they did use the parts in resolute scarlet and Helix)

Zarana however would be good to go...

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 08:48 PM
I hope that you guys that are pining for Zarana don't get disappointed next spring. Hasbro isn't too big on the female figures. They are big on keeping Joe based on a core group of characters.

If Hasbro comes through without last minute changes and there are any female figures next year it's going to be Scarlett and the Baroness.

Zarana, 30th Anniversary. Maybe.

Well they did say 2 females before the end of 2011, and I'm reading that as 2 female figures in mass market in 2011.

Honestly, I think Zarana might have a fighting chance, but I definitely think Renegades Lady Jaye will get a figure next year.

How come the tank never asks any of my questions? I know as a fact you people wanna know what the bathrooms at hasbro hq smell like!

I'm saving those for one of the Hassenfelds or one of the higher higher ups from Hasbro.

"Hey so we got this guy named HEAD...MAN...". I'd be ROFLMAO if they make a figure of you like they did Ice Cream man from Star Wars(note to Hasbro:I came up with this idea, not Headman).

So does the Scarlett. And she is considered "core".

For the record, even though I have no interest in a Zarana, I hope those who do ask for her, do get her. And I could be wrong. But when you have a Scarlett who is also already made and a new cartoon aimed at kids just lifting off the ground with Scarlett and Baroness as the core females, Zarana is probably far-fetched.

There's probably a good chance she'll be around for the 30th anniversary stuff if that still happens.

City Strike Scarlett uses a head sculpt with likeness of Rachel Nichols.....so I can see why Hasbro won't use that head sculpt until GI Joe 2 if even. Maybe we'll see a non-likeness Scarlett head, and that body+jetpack, but repurposed as a Desert Battle Scarlett or something. Hopefully the head is swappable with Resolute Scarlett, because that Scarlett is great except for the head.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 08:57 PM
Well they did say 2 females before the end of 2011, and I'm reading that as 2 female figures in mass market in 2011.

Honestly, I think Zarana might have a fighting chance, but I definitely think Renegades Lady Jaye will get a figure next year.


Again, I could be wrong. This is just how I honestly see it E.

If there's a female figure in the first half of 2011, when Hasbro is still doing stuff for the collectors, it's going to be Scarlett. She's done and she was planned for POC all along. And there's been fans asking for her. If there's a female figure in the second half of 2011, which will be the Renegades stuff, it's going to be Scarlett, since she's the bread winner as far as females go with Renegades.

Either way, you end up with Scarlett, not Zarana. I understand there's a want for her. And those who saw her say she was pretty kick ass. But I think it might be a little wishful thinking in the end. Hasbro is trying to make the brand relevant and they are doing that by sticking to a core group of individuals to make it latch on with this generation of kids. Scarlett is considered core. She has a pivotal role in Renegades, whereas Zarana is distinctly absent. The same with ROC.

Another way to interpret that answer is no females until fall of 2011 until Renegades hits. Then it's one female, Scarlett and possibly another female, the Baroness. Unless the Baroness is pushed back to a 2012 assortment.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 09:01 PM
City Strike Scarlett uses a head sculpt with likeness of Rachel Nichols.....so I can see why Hasbro won't use that head sculpt until GI Joe 2 if even. Maybe we'll see a non-likeness Scarlett head, and that body+jetpack, but repurposed as a Desert Battle Scarlett or something. Hopefully the head is swappable with Resolute Scarlett, because that Scarlett is great except for the head.

This is likely what will happen.

As far as Lady Jaye goes, I doubt we'll see anything until at least 2012.

Headman
12-10-2010, 09:05 PM
I'm saving those for one of the Hassenfelds or one of the higher higher ups from Hasbro.

"Hey so we got this guy named HEAD...MAN...". I'd be ROFLMAO if they make a figure of you like they did Ice Cream man from Star Wars(note to Hasbro:I came up with this idea, not Headman).


Awesome, make it so. But I want Destros Son to write my file card.

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 09:06 PM
I'm bummed about their Oktober Guard answer. "Yeah, they're awesome and surprisingly enough, it would be kind of timely to make them...but sorry, no chance..."

That was also rather annoying.

Yeah, you know, that's a good idea. Let me think about it. 6 all new October guard figures...hmm....


Nah. we're goin with two dukes, a trio of Cobra Commanders and a Destro. Because we know you'll buy them anyway.

Headman
12-10-2010, 09:07 PM
That was also rather annoying.

Yeah, you know, that's a good idea. Let me think about it. 6 all new October guard figures...hmm....


Nah. we're goin with two dukes, a trio of Cobra Commanders and a Destro. Because we know you'll buy them anyway.

I gotta be honest. I'd pass on the Oktober Guard myself. Still a bad tease on Hasbro's part.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 09:09 PM
That was also rather annoying.

Yeah, you know, that's a good idea. Let me think about it. 6 all new October guard figures...hmm....


Nah. we're goin with two dukes, a trio of Cobra Commanders and a Destro. Because we know you'll buy them anyway.

No Slaughter or Oktober Guards. And I doubt we'll see a Zarana. But I bet we'll see a Lifeline and an Airtight. That's good news.

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 09:12 PM
I gotta be honest. I'd pass on the Oktober Guard myself. Still a bad tease on Hasbro's part.

I know they're not EVERYONE"s thing, but I'd wager that about 70% of people would jump at the chance to get them.

It seems something of an oversight IMHO.

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 09:13 PM
No Slaughter or Oktober Guards. And I doubt we'll see a Zarana. But I bet we'll see a Lifeline and an Airtight. That's good news.

I personaly bet she and renegades scarlett are the two females on tap.

Lifeline and Airtight, I'd probably army build .

Headman
12-10-2010, 09:13 PM
But I bet we'll see a Lifeline and an Airtight. That's good news.

Yes. Of course they'll have to undergo race and gender changes first.

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 09:14 PM
Awesome, make it so. But I want Destros Son to write my file card.

NO. I AM WRITING IT.

No Slaughter or Oktober Guards. And I doubt we'll see a Zarana. But I bet we'll see a Lifeline and an Airtight. That's good news.

I hope we see Lifeline and Airtight. Memorable character designs.

kneroh
12-10-2010, 09:15 PM
Yes. Of course they'll have to undergo race and gender changes first.

A female that's Airtight?

Headman
12-10-2010, 09:17 PM
A female that's Airtight?

It's almost too perfect not to happen.

NO. I AM WRITING IT.



Fine. But I wanna read it first.

sithewok
12-10-2010, 09:20 PM
the figure already exists. it was shown on the Hasbro tour during this past Joecon...

But was a mold made? We know the CS Scarlett mold exists as the body was used in the Resolute set - that's why I assumed she is on the short list. All that would need to be molded is a new head. Making molds is the most expensive step of the process. Was the Joecon Zarana a finished/molded figure or was it a sculpt? (Man, I wish someone could have snapped a picture of that figure...)

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 09:25 PM
It's almost too perfect not to happen.



Fine. But I wanna read it first.

NO. SUCH AWESOMENESS WILL BE SHARED BY EVERYONE AT ONCE. Yep.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 09:30 PM
I suspected Lifeline and Airtight because I recalled a comment from Hasbro along the lines that those two were planned and "done" for POC, but scrapped before making it to retail. Seems like a good guess.

Unclassified
12-10-2010, 09:38 PM
Huge surprise there. Especially after that thread about the guy who called Hasbro and asked about wave 5 vehicles and was told a Flagg was in the works under a top secret file, lol. Where is that thread? It's as epic as EpicStevenD's claim of 11000 V1 Vipers.

haha , i remember that..

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 09:42 PM
Top secret file! lol!

kennywr22
12-10-2010, 09:44 PM
Well I'm glad to hear more poc and chance at larger vehicles is cool, but I have to say I'm pretty bummed renegades isn't getting its own line. I really don't want to wait for each new wave to get one renegades figure. Its gonna take forever to get everyone.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 09:58 PM
Kenny, for what it's worth to you, the way I've interpreted Hasbro's comments lately is that there will probably be 1 or 2 extra waves of POC spring 2011. Who is included in those waves is still up in the air.

But coming Fall 2011, Hasbro will switch gears and the toys on the shelf will be Renegades toys. Their design and aesthetics will be as the current POC toys are. In other words, no clone wars style figures. However, though there may be a bone tossed occasionally to the collectors, it will be mostly a Renegades line, focusing on the cartoon and it's cast.

Tazocin
12-10-2010, 09:59 PM
I hope it's Zarana... that was a great figure. We were all drooling over it on the Hasbro tour :D

do you have a pic of that zarana? :(

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 10:07 PM
Well I'm glad to hear more poc and chance at larger vehicles is cool, but I have to say I'm pretty bummed renegades isn't getting its own line. I really don't want to wait for each new wave to get one renegades figure. Its gonna take forever to get everyone.

Hey Kenny I think POC is becoming an all encompassing Modern Era line, but rather than featuring the 4 thematic environments like it currently does, it will shift focus to Renegades in Fall 2011. Renegades is their piggy bank man they won't shaft it.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 10:08 PM
Here's a link to that pic of Zarana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R-7ZO4I1pI

Gatchaman
12-10-2010, 10:09 PM
Before I go and read all 15 pages I just want to say that Hasbro must have a new guy answering these questions and he is doing a really good job. He seems to be answering the questions the best he can with what he is allowed to give away. He also seems to be more down to earth in the way he answers the questions. Makes it seem like he may be a real GI Joe fan himself. That’s my take anyways. This Q&A and the last one or two have been much better then ones in the past. They always gave way to frustration where these give way to excitement.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 10:11 PM
Oh no! I had a great pic of Zarana! Something happened to the link! Hasbro has sabotaged the Saboteur!

(I guess it's so awesome, that we can't pass along any pics of it. It's glory will blind us, etc.)

Shin Densetsu
12-10-2010, 10:20 PM
Before I go and read all 15 pages I just want to say that Hasbro must have a new guy answering these questions and he is doing a really good job. He seems to be answering the questions the best he can with what he is allowed to give away. He also seems to be more down to earth in the way he answers the questions. Makes it seem like he may be a real GI Joe fan himself. That’s my take anyways. This Q&A and the last one or two have been much better then ones in the past. They always gave way to frustration where these give way to excitement.

Agreed.

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 10:21 PM
do you have a pic of that zarana? :(

No photos or video was allowed on that part of the Hasbro tour... sorry man.

Gatchaman
12-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Since they said that they're planning on releasing 2 female figures in 2011, my hopes of Zarana being released are still alive!

Don't you dare break my heart Hasbro!

I would think because of the cartoon it will be Scarlett and Lady J or maybe Jinx

Unless they are talking about figures before Renegades figures show up.

Zefram
12-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Here's a link to that pic of Zarana.

YouTube - RICKROLL HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R-7ZO4I1pI)

Obvious Rickroll is obvious. :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/1271918005990.jpg

sjames90
12-10-2010, 10:38 PM
I gotta be honest. I'd pass on the Oktober Guard myself. Still a bad tease on Hasbro's part.

I actually think I'd pass on the Oktober guard too. Just not my cup of tea so to speak.

Zefram
12-10-2010, 10:39 PM
I actually think I'd pass on the Oktober guard too. Just not my cup of tea so to speak.

I'd buy them. I'm sick of just f***ing Joe vs Cobra. Get some IGs and Oktober Guard in there to mix shit up!

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 10:42 PM
What about BF2000? Are you interesting in seeing them make a return? Because I have in my possession a top secret file from Pawtucket, RI that says they are coming in 2011.

Zefram
12-10-2010, 10:45 PM
What about BF2000? Are you interesting in seeing them make a return? Because I have in my possession a top secret file from Pawtucket, RI that says they are coming in 2011.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/1272865150808.jpg

MAJOR BLOOD
12-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Huge surprise there. Especially after that thread about the guy who called Hasbro and asked about wave 5 vehicles and was told a Flagg was in the works under a top secret file, lol. Where is that thread? It's as epic as EpicStevenD's claim of 11000 V1 Vipers.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/33331-new-info-flak-stinger-possibly-uss-flagg.html

sjames90
12-10-2010, 10:51 PM
I too am pretty disappointed in the turn around on Slaughter. We beg and whine to them about after Slaughtergate and the F5 bs and they come back with saying that they will be a version in 2011. Now a 180. This would've been the perfect opportunity for a Marauders pack!

Jinx723
12-10-2010, 10:52 PM
Holy $#!+!!!, my question was actually picked?!?

HISS Tank:

1) We have had numerous situations (not just G.I. Joe) where we have had a line tied into a Movie. Years of frustration, starting with Indiana Jones to the current Iron Man 2 figures. Retailers always order in large quantities of figures(mainly) to stock their shelves in hopes of selling all just because the product is tied to a Summer Movie. With years of experience, we as collectors know that there are numerous Waves of product to be released up to and beyond the holiday season. My question is, how can you sell enough product to retailers where both stores and Hasbro are both happy without saturating the pegs and shelves with the first couple of waves? Have you considered online-exclusive, single carded figures? Most kids(& COLLECTORS) get what they want within months release of a Wave. After the product just sits until the Holiday season, in hopes of selling the rest from the initial order. For example Rise of Cobra. Fans are worried that they might not be able to find figures such as the long awaited Low Light, in Pursuit Of Cobra Wave 4.

A)Believe me, we know how frustrating these situations can be. Our goal is always to make sure that we ship the correct amount of product. We want to move enough product quickly enough so that fans and kids can get all of the figures we have to offer. We hate to put work into a figure that never hits shelves as much as you hate not being able to get it. This is probably the hardest thing that we do and it is an inexact science. We do, however, spend a lot of time studying what happened in previous lines so that we can be smarter the next time around. This is all a long winded way of saying that we are working as hard as we can to make sure that stores, collectors, kids and Hasbro are all happy with the quantity and mix of product.

General Hawk
12-10-2010, 10:54 PM
By the way, just because they had a pre-production sample of Zarana during the Hasbro tour does NOT mean that this figure is guaranteed to be on the short list.

Most of those items they showed us had not even been tooled yet, so there was no investment made and there were no actual hard copies done up of the figure.

Zarana might yet be released, but don't assume that just because a prototype was shown during the Hasbro tour that this makes her any more likely than someone else...

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 10:57 PM
What about BF2000? Are you interesting in seeing them make a return? Because I have in my possession a top secret file from Pawtucket, RI that says they are coming in 2011.

I'd be happy to see them. But I doubt we'll see them any time soon.

kneroh
12-10-2010, 11:00 PM
What about BF2000? Are you interesting in seeing them make a return? Because I have in my possession a top secret file from Pawtucket, RI that says they are coming in 2011.

I love me some battleforce 2000! Without BF2k there would be no Iron Grenadiers.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/demon.jpg

Notice the 2000 logo on the packaging.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 11:02 PM
By the way, just because they had a pre-production sample of Zarana during the Hasbro tour does NOT mean that this figure is guaranteed to be on the short list.

Most of those items they showed us had not even been tooled yet, so there was no investment made and there were no actual hard copies done up of the figure.

Zarana might yet be released, but don't assume that just because a prototype was shown during the Hasbro tour that this makes her any more likely than someone else...


I'm afraid there's going to be some people disappointed next year when they discover that the female(s) revealed is not Zarana.


I'd be happy to see them. But I doubt we'll see them any time soon.

So what you're saying is that my top secret file is bogus?

All kidding aside, I think a Dodger at least would be neat.

Lifeline_MD
12-10-2010, 11:04 PM
So what you're saying is that my top secret file is bogus?

All kidding aside, I think a Dodger at least would be neat.

Despite the near universal hatred, I actually liked all the figures.

Yes, the vehicles were wierd, but the figures were quite good. A bit sci-fi but that's the point.

Personally, I'd take an on-line exclusive 7-pack of them, and one of the Iron Grenediers.

Saboteur
12-10-2010, 11:09 PM
There are plans for a BF2000 set.

There are no plans at this time.

There will be some BF 2000 members coming in 2011.

Unfortunately there are no plans at this time.

kneroh
12-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Battleforce 2012?
http://jackieearlehaleyfans.com/wp-content/gallery/damnation-alley/Damnation_Alley_Landmaster.jpg

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 11:26 PM
By the way, just because they had a pre-production sample of Zarana during the Hasbro tour does NOT mean that this figure is guaranteed to be on the short list.

Most of those items they showed us had not even been tooled yet, so there was no investment made and there were no actual hard copies done up of the figure.

Zarana might yet be released, but don't assume that just because a prototype was shown during the Hasbro tour that this makes her any more likely than someone else...

Justin here's why people are guessing Zarana might be made...

Q1 - During the JoeCon Hasbro tour, we saw several figures and vehicles that were awesome, but unfortunately were canceled from the ROC, POC, and 25th lines (like, the ROC Howler, City Strike Scarlet, Desert Battle Heavy Duty, OC Raven, and a Zarana figure). Now that the POC line has been extended, and the 30th Anniversary line and the G.I. Joe Movie II is upcoming... are these protos possibly put back on the table? Zarana (and Zandar) almost seem like a no brainer.

A1 - We are really fortunate to have such a huge universe of characters and vehicles to choose from when making our lines. While I can't speak to all of the figures and vehicles that you reference, I can tell you that there is at least one that you mentioned that will make an appearance.


@ Gyre

I think your right it's going to be Zarana they said in one of the Q & A's that they have been paying attention to the fan polls and if I remember right Zarana came in pretty close to the top in one of them.

Edit:

Here's the one I was talking about...

TNI: After wave 4 of the Pursuit of Cobra figures (Low Light wave) hit shelves which should be soon now, what might Joe fans have to look forward to in regards to new product?

Hasbro: Clearly, Low Light and Skydive should be an indication of where we are taking the line for 2011. Fans can look forward to new interpretations of classic characters. We have looked through fan polls and think that you will be happy with the figures that we have chosen.



So from both those questions and what I said in my earlier post... I can see why people would think that Zarana is a strong possibility.

Zefram
12-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Justin here's why people are guessing Zarana might be made...



So from that I can see why people would think that Zarana is a possible.

Although I'd stab someone for a decent Zarana, I'd put my monies on CS Scarlet. Desert Heavy Duty was just shit on rye.

ero
12-10-2010, 11:33 PM
Yes Zarana had very little resemblance to the 80's but she was all "Masmune Shirow-ed out ala Appleseed."

Whaaaat?

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 11:36 PM
Although I'd stab someone for a decent Zarana, I'd put my monies on CS Scarlet. Desert Heavy Duty was just shit on rye.

You didn't let me finish my post :D

Yeah it better not be that HD he was pretty bad, but I doubt it would be him anyway they would need a new head-sculpt and I also don't think they can use the reactive armor he was wearing so that kind of eliminates him.

My guess is still Zarana, but I could see it being Scarlett with a Resolute or 25th head on the CS body.

Steel Brigade
12-10-2010, 11:38 PM
^^ What ero... You don't speak Broken Otaku?

ero
12-10-2010, 11:40 PM
Not even close, bro! Details! I'm hanging by a thread here! :D

kingofpain26
12-10-2010, 11:48 PM
You didn't let me finish my post :D

Yeah it better not be that HD he was pretty bad, but I doubt it would be him anyway they would need a new head-sculpt and I also don't think they can use the reactive armor he was wearing so that kind of eliminates him.

My guess is still Zarana, but I could see it being Scarlett with a Resolute or 25th head on the CS body.

see, but in another post, they also said there are at least TWO female figures planned in 2011

so it could be Renegades Scarlet and Baroness

It could be City strike Scarlet and Renegades Scarlet

or ... we could be getting Zarana or CS Scarlet in a totally different line, like the 30th anniversary or Joe movie II line in 2012

SNAKE EYES
12-10-2010, 11:58 PM
see, but in another post, they also said there are at least TWO female figures planned in 2011

so it could be Renegades Scarlet and Baroness

It could be City strike Scarlet and Renegades Scarlet

or ... we could be getting Zarana or CS Scarlet in a totally different line, like the 30th anniversary or Joe movie II line in 2012

Or we could get PoC Zarana since PoC is going to be part of the Renegades line influence and IMO the Zarana from the tour had a definite PoC vibe :)

Steel Brigade
12-11-2010, 12:03 AM
I'll be honest guys, as easy as a a new reformatted non-movie likeness City Strike Scarlett would be to do (as in a "new head" & everything else the same) I'm thinking Hasbro is moving on from that & figures like Desert Battle Heavy Duty, & are more inclined not to do either of them with POC's current direction.

Those figures fit great with the original POC canned lineup, & as a continuation of ROC, but as of the offical POC waves 2 & 3, I think you see a directional change in how the figures are being designed, & I think Hasbro is using this opportunity to now distance themselves somewhat from ROC. As much as I'd love to see everyone have a City Strike Scarlett, I think you are more likely to see another character/figure at this point, even if it's just a head swap, or a different Scarlett. And unless Heavy Duty is back in the GI Joe 2 (which seems to have very little actually happening with it, which between that & what was said at JoeCon I tend to think it's going to get a movie franchise reboot of sorts), I think he will not be a figure the Hasbro Team plan on doing again for quite some time... I think the Joe Design Team are leaning more towards their own creations now & are less inclined to tread in ROC waters, & I would see someone like CS SCarlett or DB Heavy Duty being more of a budget fit than anything else for POC. I think these 2 VERSIONS of these figures are most likely retired in every sense, & you would be more likely to see the new parts of these figures rebooted for another character or usage.
(Like how Arctic Threat Duke became Arctic Threat Alpine)

Is Zarana a possibilty? Of course, fans expressed their desire in many forms over the past few months since we've seen her. As a figure, the metal like body could be put to further reuse if made to final, maybe even more so then some of the other female forms we have seen in Joe over the past few years.
Do I think she is a shoe-in... not at all, but maybe the Joe design team finally got their way & with POC being a more collector -centric line again, & now they can make room for her.

I think you will definately see Renegades Scarlett & Baroness, at some point, but hese 2 figures may not fall into the immediate POC = Renegades plans, & will more likely wain their way out over a few waves of Renegades (in the POC format) which may not be until 2012 before they actually get their due. Say alike waves 4 & 6? As we will need 3 Dukes & 3 Snake Eyes in Renegades format before we need any 1 Scarlett & 1 Baroness... or at least the men in charge think we do... ^_-

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 12:06 AM
Joe Battlelines: Joe Battlelines December 2010 Answers (http://www.joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=16516)

GrimReaper957
12-11-2010, 12:11 AM
Just read all the Q&A's and the answers were great such as GeneralJoes and TD

Steel Brigade
12-11-2010, 12:14 AM
Not even close, bro! Details! I'm hanging by a thread here! :D

LOL!! In other words Zarana resembled the work that the famous Japanese artist Masamune Shirow had done on his series Appleseed, & even more so the recent animated incarnations of that series (such as Appleseed Ex Machina) as Zarana looked abit like the lead character (Duenan Knute), as she was fully armored-up in a form-fitting costume, & her head was exposed wrapped in a headband... much like this picture below of the aforementioned Appleseed character, except Zarana was in gold armor & with white hair....

Beckley
12-11-2010, 12:17 AM
Joe Battlelines: Joe Battlelines December 2010 Answers (http://www.joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=16516)

Nice, I liked these.
I love the idea of having a handle so my comrades can carry my wounded ass out of harms' way.
Hasbro, ur spoiling us with the info, keep it up.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 12:21 AM
Joe Battlelines: Joe Battlelines December 2010 Answers (http://www.joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=16516)

I'm liking #2's answer. I get why they didn't address #3, as #2 kinda covered it as well as could be expected. We're going to keep getting SE and SS rammed down our throats, but they're using every chance they get to get us some other old favs as well.

GrimReaper957
12-11-2010, 12:21 AM
As a figure, the metal like body

Girl say whatttttttttt? What is this metal like body I'm hearing

Steel Brigade
12-11-2010, 12:23 AM
^ She has sleek body armor on...

GrimReaper957
12-11-2010, 12:29 AM
Sweeeeeeeeeeeet.totallllllllllllllly

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 01:13 AM
Blood For The Baron: Blood for the Baron December 2010 Answers (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=113018&sid=c043e7d968c625aa60557546abe4a508#p113018)

Zefram
12-11-2010, 01:53 AM
Blood For The Baron: Blood for the Baron December 2010 Answers (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=113018&sid=c043e7d968c625aa60557546abe4a508#p113018)

Joe Scale Centurions would rule all mankind forever.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/tumblr_kxjoy8sIG21qb3c2no1_400.jpg

vermillion21
12-11-2010, 01:59 AM
I'd buy them. I'm sick of just f***ing Joe vs Cobra. Get some IGs and Oktober Guard in there to mix shit up!

ditto

blackman2005
12-11-2010, 02:02 AM
Clarifications for some that continue to ask:

There will not be such a thing as a Renegades line! Renegades will not take over the PoC line! The PoC toyline will feature realistic figures inspired by the Renegades cartoon!

Currently, there is no talk of the brand changing into something else!

I can't wait until Toyfair 2011. If they are going to give us more updates of classic characters I betting that we will get:

Airtight
Jinx
Spearhead & Max
Major Blood

Larger vehicles? Hopefully there will be some 2-seater jets!

kingofpain26
12-11-2010, 02:11 AM
Tri Stare vipers answers are in


The Tri-State G.I.Joe Collectors Forum! :: View topic - Hasbro Q & A ~ Plumped like a Holiday Bird Edition! (http://www.violentfix.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4462&start=15)

Quote:

1) In Cobra's Ranks we notice a lot of family connections: Zartan & his bother & sister, Twin Brothers, etc. Was this consciously done?

This is a great question. The development of these characters, of course, is part of the deep G.I. Joe lore and have been developed over the last 30 years. Over those 30 years, many people had a hand in developing stories and characters and all of the development was deliberate. However, as the reins have been handed down, each progressive owner has been able to interpret and add characters with guidance from the brand team.
Quote:

2) It has been said by the Collectors club that the locations and dates for the last two years have been decided by Hasbro, and NOT them.
Does this mean you are taking a more hands-on approach on the decisions of the Club as it pertains to the fans and events, or are they still running autonomously (Like the Canadian collectors club is)? I ask this question because in the past, you have authorized the Club to give us items that you have either canceled for Mass sale (DTC wave 3 Figures), or figures you have publicly turned down (Big Lob), will the Club still be free to make its fans happy with unreleased or canceled characters, (city strike Scarlett) or is Hasbro planning on tackling them (ex: POC Low Light vs The Club's Dr. Venom)?


I hope that you aren't saying that the G.I. Joe mainline isn't making the fans happy. That would make us sad. As far as the Collector's Club, we have always worked together with the club on many elements. Our role is not to limit their offerings, but to partner with them in helping them serve the collector community. The Club makes its own decisions on the items that they want to make and we work to support them whenever possible. That said, you'll have to ask the club what they are planning to offer this year.
Quote:

3) Are there plans for more figures in Modern Era style of original characters? We want a ME style Raptor!!!



Yes, yes, yes!! We will be introducing many Modern Era versions of original characters in 2011. Keep your eyes peeled. As for Raptor, is that the one you really want? Really? Joking aside, some other famous animal-training-villains are definitely getting the Pursuit of Cobra treatment in 2011…

#2 gives us that hope..

so if Hasbro doesnt give us Zarana, the club wil

YES!! IT NEVER DIES!!!!

Black Swan
12-11-2010, 02:16 AM
I would be down with a POC/Renegades Zarana and some Dreadnoks. Since Renegades inspired characters are going be featured, I hope there is a shot or seeing a Maj. Bludd and not some wacky Bio-Vipers.

Xsoldier
12-11-2010, 02:19 AM
3) Is Sgt. Slaughter coming to retail as part of the Renegades line, or part of a separate line?

A) Unfortunately, the Sarge will not be available in mainline or any other line. Sorry.



Well I just ordered my TTT sarge for $75 shipped. They are sure to go up fast now. Thanks hasbro. So for those hoping X-force AA from NYCC is going to come out again... There hasn't been the "announcement from marvel" yet. This should set a precedense for how exclusives are done in the future.

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 02:21 AM
Tri-State Vipers 3Q) Are there plans for more figures in Modern Era style of original characters? We want a ME style Raptor!!!



Hasbro 3A) Yes, yes, yes!! We will be introducing many Modern Era versions of original characters in 2011. Keep your eyes peeled. As for Raptor, is that the one you really want? Really? Joking aside, some other famous animal-training-villains are definitely getting the Pursuit of Cobra treatment in 2011…



^ Sounds like we're getting a PoC Croc Master. Plus were getting many ME versions of original characters in 2011... this is good news.

bluesparrow
12-11-2010, 02:25 AM
I can't even imagine how awesome a POC Croc Master may look.

Blaster'spunchingbagg
12-11-2010, 02:41 AM
I hope that you guys that are pining for Zarana don't get disappointed next spring. Hasbro isn't too big on the female figures. They are big on keeping Joe based on a core group of characters.

If Hasbro comes through without last minute changes and there are any female figures next year it's going to be Scarlett and the Baroness.

Zarana, 30th Anniversary. Maybe.


This is sad but true. Maybe we will get more Scarletts and Baronesses, because we don't already have enough, why bother doing a fan favorite? Or maybe better yet, lets make an all new character like they did Helix that no one has ever heard of or gives a shit about.

Blaster'spunchingbagg
12-11-2010, 02:48 AM
LOL!! In other words Zarana resembled the work that the famous Japanese artist Masamune Shirow had done on his series Appleseed, & even more so the recent animated incarnations of that series (such as Appleseed Ex Machina) as Zarana looked abit like the lead character (Duenan Knute), as she was fully armored-up in a form-fitting costume, & her head was exposed wrapped in a headband... much like this picture below of the aforementioned Appleseed character, except Zarana was in gold armor & with white hair....


Is that the way Modern Zarana is going to look? Um, well she certainly won't fit in with our 25th/Modern Dreadnoks? :( maybe if the ever do a 3 and 3/4 inch resident evil line though ;|

Gatchaman
12-11-2010, 02:57 AM
This is sad but true. Maybe we will get more Scarletts and Baronesses, because we don't already have enough, why bother doing a fan favorite? Or maybe better yet, lets make an all new character like they did Helix that no one has ever heard of or gives a shit about.

True. When I play GI Joe with my son I never know what to do with Helix. She does nothing for me.

On the flip side all Joe’s were new Joes at some point.

kingofpain26
12-11-2010, 03:00 AM
Tri-State Vipers 3Q) Are there plans for more figures in Modern Era style of original characters? We want a ME style Raptor!!!



Hasbro 3A) Yes, yes, yes!! We will be introducing many Modern Era versions of original characters in 2011. Keep your eyes peeled. As for Raptor, is that the one you really want? Really? Joking aside, some other famous animal-training-villains are definitely getting the Pursuit of Cobra treatment in 2011…



^ Sounds like we're getting a PoC Croc Master. Plus were getting many ME versions of original characters in 2011... this is good news.

..... It could be a new Mutt..... or Dr. Link Talbot!!!!!

Zefram
12-11-2010, 03:14 AM
True. When I play GI Joe with my son I never know what to do with Helix. She does nothing for me.

On the flip side all Joe’s were new Joes at some point.

Thank you (at least for that last point). There's no point releasing the same shit every year without introducing some new blood once in awhile.

As to what to do with her, considering that she is to guns what SE and SS are to swords, I'd say treat her like Jean Reno and get your Vipers some backup. Lots of backup.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Random/356577419497da9c95aaz.jpg

Gatchaman
12-11-2010, 03:28 AM
Thank you (at least for that last point). There's no point releasing the same shit every year without introducing some new blood once in awhile.

As to what to do with her, considering that she is to guns what SE and SS are to swords, I'd say treat her like Jean Reno and get your Vipers some backup. Lots of backup.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Random/356577419497da9c95aaz.jpg


Will do. ;o)

Mandingo Rex
12-11-2010, 03:39 AM
Is that the way Modern Zarana is going to look? Um, well she certainly won't fit in with our 25th/Modern Dreadnoks? :( maybe if the ever do a 3 and 3/4 inch resident evil line though ;|

Where is all this coming from all of a sudden? Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought that the Zarana folks saw at JoeCon's secret secret chamber of awesomeness was going to be mostly her 80's look...

I don't think I'm the only one surprised by everyone's comments about some metal leotard or whatever?

As to the questions, it seems like they got a decent person to answer the damned things for once. These weren't the typical canned responses, and it seems like they may have injected some life back in the nearly-dead Joe Q&A's...

Xsoldier
12-11-2010, 03:47 AM
..... It could be a new Mutt..... or Dr. Link Talbot!!!!!

Well he said villians didn't he? with that recondo face headsculpt, could it be Gnawghide?

A.C.T.
12-11-2010, 04:03 AM
I'm happy with the answers. Just when I was gettin' bored...they pull me back in.

Gatchaman
12-11-2010, 04:10 AM
As to the questions, it seems like they got a decent person to answer the damned things for once. These weren't the typical canned responses, and it seems like they may have injected some life back in the nearly-dead Joe Q&A's...

This guy needs to be the one answering the questions from now on.

CrimsonGuard101
12-11-2010, 04:26 AM
I can't even imagine how awesome a POC Croc Master may look.

Seriouzly? It will just be a night adder with a bright neon jacket...and the same 25th/ME aligator lol...

Now give us a redeco grey/black/white camo Shock Trooper with a Rotwiller and I am all over that like stink on shat!

kingofpain26
12-11-2010, 04:30 AM
True. When I play GI Joe with my son I never know what to do with Helix. She does nothing for me.

On the flip side all Joe’s were new Joes at some point.

which brings me to the Question I asked from JBL (that noticeably didn't get answered)

3) Speaking of the 2002-2006 era lines, there is a huge untapped resource of new characters (Red Spot,Bombstrike, Major Barrage, Dart, Dr. Link Talbot, etc) that have appear to be forgotten. is they any way these characters can also Make the jump to the modern designs instead of constantly rehashing Duke, Snke Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Destro over and over again?

WOULD IT REALLY HURT THAT BAD To see a 25th construction Gen. Colton? Major Barrage, Big Brawler, Rampage, Dart, Hotwire, or many of the other characters made in the new sculpt era.. then swept under the rug?

Xsoldier
12-11-2010, 04:33 AM
yep ordered another TTT sgt slaughter. When that answer makes it's rounds I'm sure it will go up. I say double in a week for USA and TT and who knows what AFA ones will go for.

Rooster3D
12-11-2010, 09:35 AM
We hate to put work into a figure that never hits shelves as much as you hate not being able to get it. This is probably the hardest thing that we do and it is an inexact science.

...Unfortunately, the Sarge will not be available in mainline or any other line. Sorry.

What a heaping load of B.S.

How can they sit here and say those two things? This is equivalent to them saying, "what good little boys and girls you are. Mommy promises to take good care of you," and then kicking us in the teeth with cleats and saying, "Oops. Mommy's sorry."

I don't even understand the point of these Q&A sessions. They do what they want to anyway, and maintain non-committed answers. All this does is create a stir for those who are too blinded by brand loyalty, while people like me lose interest. What little interest I was regaining, they are doing their best to squash it. I've got a nephew who's going to be action-figure-playing age soon, and then two nephews more will be of that age shortly after. Hasbro acts like they don't even care that they have competition. I'd rather my nephews play with a generic line of action figures than set them up for the constant disappointment associated with fan-fueled collecting.

flash70
12-11-2010, 10:03 AM
What a heaping load of B.S.

How can they sit here and say those two things? This is equivalent to them saying, "what good little boys and girls you are. Mommy promises to take good care of you," and then kicking us in the teeth with cleats and saying, "Oops. Mommy's sorry."

I don't even understand the point of these Q&A sessions. They do what they want to anyway, and maintain non-committed answers. All this does is create a stir for those who are too blinded by brand loyalty, while people like me lose interest. What little interest I was regaining, they are doing their best to squash it. I've got a nephew who's going to be action-figure-playing age soon, and then two nephews more will be of that age shortly after. Hasbro acts like they don't even care that they have competition. I'd rather my nephews play with a generic line of action figures than set them up for the constant disappointment associated with fan-fueled collecting.

Well said.

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 10:11 AM
Where is all this coming from all of a sudden? Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought that the Zarana folks saw at JoeCon's secret secret chamber of awesomeness was going to be mostly her 80's look...

I don't think I'm the only one surprised by everyone's comments about some metal leotard or whatever?


as far as I know, no one ever said that the Zarana was anything like her 80's look. I'm pretty sure everyone mentioned her 'reactive impact armor'-esque look. but I do think maybe everyone was going on and on about her head sculpt that maybe the rest kinda got lost in the shuffle.

What a heaping load of B.S.
I don't even understand the point of these Q&A sessions. They do what they want to anyway, and maintain non-committed answers. All this does is create a stir for those who are too blinded by brand loyalty, while people like me lose interest. What little interest I was regaining, they are doing their best to squash it. I've got a nephew who's going to be action-figure-playing age soon, and then two nephews more will be of that age shortly after. Hasbro acts like they don't even care that they have competition. I'd rather my nephews play with a generic line of action figures than set them up for the constant disappointment associated with fan-fueled collecting.


I will say that Hasbro releasing that statement claiming there would be another Slaughter without making absolutely sure it could happen... was a big mistake on their part. especially since so many people were upset with how the SDCC Slaughters were handled. Because now everyone is going to ask about it in the Q+A next time and the criticism cycle will continue.

That being said, between all the 'Hasbro sucks' that erupted from the SDCC debacle... and then people saying that neither Slaughter lived up to their aesthetic or collecting standards... the behavior of a few people in this community during 'Slaughtergate'... was ridiculous. fanboy-entitlement at it's worse. THAT being said... there were a lot of people
who went about it the right way... and I genuinely feel bad for those who were extremely excited for another Slaughter and put the effort in to write letters or post their wishes in the slaughter thread and enthusiasm etcetera as it all went down. A character like Slaughter probably shouldn't have been a limited exclusive. Maybe they should have tried to toss one of them at retail in the first 2 waves of POC and the variant at SDCC, I dunno. It seems they had a contractual window and were (too) optimistic that they could suckle one more opportunity out of it for the fans. But see some people aren't even giving Hasbro credit for trying. They obviously listened... they just couldn't deliver, I guess.

THAT being said... I'm not sure why you're being so condescending towards people who support the line or Hasbro or the Q+A's. Not only are you alienating parts of the community but guess which attitude towards the Q+A's Hasbro is actually going to pay attention to or better yet, react to. The Q+A sessions are the community's only chance at some transparency with Hasbro. They don't HAVE to tell us anything. The design team is most likely NOT the final say on everything either. Accusing people of being 'blinded by the brand' is pretty silly. I mean,
this is a GI JOE site asking GI JOE questions supporting a GI JOE line.
Nothing is out of place.

ero
12-11-2010, 10:13 AM
LOL!! In other words Zarana resembled the work that the famous Japanese artist Masamune Shirow had done on his series Appleseed, & even more so the recent animated incarnations of that series (such as Appleseed Ex Machina) as Zarana looked abit like the lead character (Duenan Knute), as she was fully armored-up in a form-fitting costume, & her head was exposed wrapped in a headband... much like this picture below of the aforementioned Appleseed character, except Zarana was in gold armor & with white hair....

Where is all this coming from all of a sudden? Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought that the Zarana folks saw at JoeCon's secret secret chamber of awesomeness was going to be mostly her 80's look...

I don't think I'm the only one surprised by everyone's comments about some metal leotard or whatever?

Agreed. I always thought everyone was jazzed because she was a good ol' 'Nok Zarana. I find this anime/manga notion extremely depressing. I wish that they would get to '80s renditions of unreleased figures first, then use the head sculpts of these figures for modern takes.

Beckley
12-11-2010, 10:18 AM
Accusing people of being 'blinded by the brand' is pretty silly.

Agreed, I prefer to be blinded by the light.
Revved up like a douche, another runner in the night.
Renegades figures are gonna kick so much ass, I'm pretty psyched.

ero
12-11-2010, 10:21 AM
Agreed, I prefer to be blinded by the light.
Revved up like a douche, another runner in the night.

I always hear it as "douche" as well! Maybe it's just my mind projecting onto the singer.

Beckley
12-11-2010, 10:25 AM
I always here it as "douche" as well! Maybe it's just my mind projecting onto the singer.

Some silicone sister with a manager mister told me I got what it takes.

SNAKE_EYES1975
12-11-2010, 10:28 AM
What a heaping load of B.S.

How can they sit here and say those two things? This is equivalent to them saying, "what good little boys and girls you are. Mommy promises to take good care of you," and then kicking us in the teeth with cleats and saying, "Oops. Mommy's sorry."

I don't even understand the point of these Q&A sessions. They do what they want to anyway, and maintain non-committed answers. All this does is create a stir for those who are too blinded by brand loyalty, while people like me lose interest. What little interest I was regaining, they are doing their best to squash it. I've got a nephew who's going to be action-figure-playing age soon, and then two nephews more will be of that age shortly after. Hasbro acts like they don't even care that they have competition. I'd rather my nephews play with a generic line of action figures than set them up for the constant disappointment associated with fan-fueled collecting.

Rooster took the words from my mouf.

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 10:33 AM
Agreed. I always thought everyone was jazzed because she was a good ol' 'Nok Zarana. I find this anime/manga notion extremely depressing. I wish that they would get to '80s renditions of unreleased figures first, then use the head sculpts of these figures for modern takes.



keep in mind that we don't know the whole story behind this figure. but also look at 80's Zartan. He's more armored than not. Why wouldn't his sister be? I mean some of the Dreadnoks were more Mad-Max than
anything else (ie Junk Lacrosse Thrasher). But IF this Zarana was tied to one of the more futuristic GI JOE incarnations... she wouldn't have gotten a simple "25th" update anyways. But they probably would have used the head again anyways... so we might have gotten a classic look Zarana as well.

Steel Brigade
12-11-2010, 10:43 AM
as far as I know, no one ever said that the Zarana was anything like her 80's look. I'm pretty sure everyone mentioned her 'reactive impact armor'-esque look. but I do think maybe everyone was going on and on about her head sculpt that maybe the rest kinda got lost in the shuffle.

I will say that Hasbro releasing that statement claiming there would be another Slaughter without making absolutely sure it could happen... was a big mistake on their part. especially since so many people were upset with how the SDCC Slaughters were handled. Because now everyone is going to ask about it in the Q+A next time and the criticism cycle will continue.

That being said, between all the 'Hasbro sucks' that erupted from the SDCC debacle... and then people saying that neither Slaughter lived up to their aesthetic or collecting standards... the behavior of a few people in this community during 'Slaughtergate'... was ridiculous. fanboy-entitlement at it's worse. THAT being said... there were a lot of people
who went about it the right way... and I genuinely feel bad for those who were extremely excited for another Slaughter and put the effort in to write letters or post their wishes in the slaughter thread and enthusiasm etcetera as it all went down. A character like Slaughter probably shouldn't have been a limited exclusive. Maybe they should have tried to toss one of them at retail in the first 2 waves of POC and the variant at SDCC, I dunno. It seems they had a contractual window and were (too) optimistic that they could suckle one more opportunity out of it for the fans. But see some people aren't even giving Hasbro credit for trying. They obviously listened... they just couldn't deliver, I guess.

THAT being said... I'm not sure why you're being so condescending towards people who support the line or Hasbro or the Q+A's. Not only are you alienating parts of the community but guess which attitude towards the Q+A's Hasbro is actually going to pay attention to or better yet, react to. The Q+A sessions are the community's only chance at some transparency with Hasbro. They don't HAVE to tell us anything. The design team is most likely NOT the final say on everything either. Accusing people of being 'blinded by the brand' is pretty silly. I mean,
this is a GI JOE site asking GI JOE questions supporting a GI JOE line.
Nothing is out of place.

^ Very well said Gyre!

Shin-Gouki
12-11-2010, 10:52 AM
I will say this, Hasbro dropped the ball BIG TIME with Slaughter. They knew there would be large demand and they still held back because of all the extra ROC based sets they had after SDCC. Then they do a full blown Press Release, not a Q&A answer but a PRESS RELEASE. With this latest Q&A answer Hasbro either has one hand not knowing what the other is doing, in which case we might get him yet (Doubtful) or they did the Press Release to appease the fans and either they had a deal in place that fell through, or they did the PR without a deal hoping they would be able to get one. (More Likely)

What it boils down to is if you want a ME Slaughter be ready to pay through the nose on Ebay for one now once this news get's out.

ero
12-11-2010, 11:40 AM
keep in mind that we don't know the whole story behind this figure.
but also look at 80's Destro. He's more armored than not. Why wouldn't his sister be? I mean some of the Dreadnoks were more Mad-Max than
anything else (ie Junk Lacrosse Thrasher). But IF this Zarana was tied to one of the more futuristic GI JOE incarnations... she wouldn't have gotten a simple "25th" update anyways. But they probably would have used the head again anyways... so we might have gotten a classic look Zarana as well.

Sorry man, but I'm being very specific here. I think there's no need for imaginative rationalization. They should simply hit the ARAH style on each of these unreleased figs, then go for the modern updates. I think PoC Zarana is a great idea. But PoC Zarana as the first release in modern era? It's a non-starter. That's been the problem with Joe since RoC. They put out weird reincarnations of figures people want (Footloose, Law and Order, etc.) and then wonder why the crap ends up at Ross.

Also, did you mean '80s Zartan? :)

CG76
12-11-2010, 11:43 AM
I will say that Hasbro releasing that statement claiming there would be another Slaughter without making absolutely sure it could happen... was a big mistake on their part. especially since so many people were upset with how the SDCC Slaughters were handled. Because now everyone is going to ask about it in the Q+A next time and the criticism cycle will continue.

That being said, between all the 'Hasbro sucks' that erupted from the SDCC debacle... and then people saying that neither Slaughter lived up to their aesthetic or collecting standards... the behavior of a few people in this community during 'Slaughtergate'... was ridiculous. fanboy-entitlement at it's worse. THAT being said... there were a lot of people
who went about it the right way... and I genuinely feel bad for those who were extremely excited for another Slaughter and put the effort in to write letters or post their wishes in the slaughter thread and enthusiasm etcetera as it all went down. A character like Slaughter probably shouldn't have been a limited exclusive. Maybe they should have tried to toss one of them at retail in the first 2 waves of POC and the variant at SDCC, I dunno. It seems they had a contractual window and were (too) optimistic that they could suckle one more opportunity out of it for the fans. But see some people aren't even giving Hasbro credit for trying. They obviously listened... they just couldn't deliver, I guess.

THAT being said... I'm not sure why you're being so condescending towards people who support the line or Hasbro or the Q+A's. Not only are you alienating parts of the community but guess which attitude towards the Q+A's Hasbro is actually going to pay attention to or better yet, react to. The Q+A sessions are the community's only chance at some transparency with Hasbro. They don't HAVE to tell us anything. The design team is most likely NOT the final say on everything either. Accusing people of being 'blinded by the brand' is pretty silly. I mean,
this is a GI JOE site asking GI JOE questions supporting a GI JOE line.
Nothing is out of place.

Exactly.

Killer 1
12-11-2010, 11:44 AM
Slaughter might not be dead. They just said they couldn't release him in the mainline. That's not saying the Club couldn't release a version of him at some point. In fact, it would make sense for the Club to do that based on an almost guaranteed sell-through exclusive.

MWG
12-11-2010, 11:49 AM
I will say this, Hasbro dropped the ball BIG TIME with Slaughter. They knew there would be large demand and they still held back because of all the extra ROC based sets they had after SDCC. Then they do a full blown Press Release, not a Q&A answer but a PRESS RELEASE. With this latest Q&A answer Hasbro either has one hand not knowing what the other is doing, in which case we might get him yet (Doubtful) or they did the Press Release to appease the fans and either they had a deal in place that fell through, or they did the PR without a deal hoping they would be able to get one. (More Likely)

What it boils down to is if you want a ME Slaughter be ready to pay through the nose on Ebay for one now once this news get's out.

The Slaughter situation just proves you don't shoot off a big announcement like this until its almost ready to be released. It seems like this was announced when Hasbro's plans were still tentative and they should have said something like "it is a possibility in the future but not definite". That way it is more of a happy surprise if it actually does happen instead of a let-down when it apparently can't.

+-MWG-+

ero
12-11-2010, 11:52 AM
True. But they were reacting to a pretty intense (well, for toys) situation, so I understand their need for urgency. It was a mistake, but it was made with the best of intentions.

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 11:59 AM
Sorry man, but I'm being very specific here. I think there's no need for imaginative rationalization. They should simply hit the ARAH style on each of these unreleased figs, then go for the modern updates. I think PoC Zarana is a great idea. But PoC Zarana as the first release in modern era? It's a non-starter. That's been the problem with Joe since RoC. They put out weird reincarnations of figures people want (Footloose, Law and Order, etc.) and then wonder why the crap ends up at Ross.

Also, did you mean '80s Zartan? :)



hahaha yes I meant Zartan... has been fixed. HAHAHA.

kingofpain26
12-11-2010, 12:13 PM
Slaughter might not be dead. They just said they couldn't release him in the mainline. That's not saying the Club couldn't release a version of him at some point. In fact, it would make sense for the Club to do that based on an almost guaranteed sell-through exclusive.

Exactly what I said a few pages ago.

During Joecon 09 The Hasbro exec AND the Line Sculptor told me TO MY FACE that there wouldn't be a Big Lob Figure.

...yet one day later the Club announced that their club figure was Big Lob.,

so I wouldn't be surprised if Slaughter shows up at Joecon for sale at the club booth..

THE WAY ALL THE OTHER SDCC EXCLUSIVES WERE!!!

Saboteur
12-11-2010, 12:49 PM
Exactly what I said a few pages ago.

During Joecon 09 The Hasbro exec AND the Line Sculptor told me TO MY FACE that there wouldn't be a Big Lob Figure.

...yet one day later the Club announced that their club figure was Big Lob.,

so I wouldn't be surprised if Slaughter shows up at Joecon for sale at the club booth..

THE WAY ALL THE OTHER SDCC EXCLUSIVES WERE!!!

Things seem to be constantly changing with this brand. It's almost as if it's a day to day thing, there are no genuine long term plans. If this line is ever going to prosper, those responsible for planning and making the decisions are going to have to get their shit together. No if's, ands, or buts about it.

Mandingo Rex
12-11-2010, 01:03 PM
as far as I know, no one ever said that the Zarana was anything like her 80's look. I'm pretty sure everyone mentioned her 'reactive impact armor'-esque look. but I do think maybe everyone was going on and on about her head sculpt that maybe the rest kinda got lost in the shuffle.

Like I said in my "disclaimer" portion of my statement, perhaps it was wishful thinking. :) I guess that everyone's excitement over the as-yet-to-be-released-at-all-in-Modern-Era-sculpt Zarana had me assuming that they were so stoked that it was close to the 80s. To be honest, as long as her head is a good sculpt with pink hair and a punk look, I don't care what hairstyle. Shit, from the cartoon to 2 versions of the sculpt on the figure, her head didn't much look the same anyways. If you ask me though, she needs those Zartan shoulder pads, just sculpted for a female (just like a modern Zandar would need to reuse the 25th Zartan arms... that was one design aspect that they all shared and tied them together), denim jeans with some tears in them, and a half-slung pink top. The details, like boots and all the rest, wouldn't be important. Just like how they did Low-Light in a great rendition without being 100% faithful. They got the head, vest and color of the suit correct, although details were changed to update him some.

A gold-ish, anime-punk-inspired Zarana with white hair does not excite me one bit. That doesn't even sound like Zarana to me. Perhaps she will be released in the POC line after all. To be honest, I didn't even half-expect them to release an ARAH Zarana in the PoC line because aesthetically she wouldn't fit without some decent updating. I will be honest though, and say that I'm not happy by finding out that she'll look nothing like her ARAH counterpart, which is why I was excited about her in the first place.

keep in mind that we don't know the whole story behind this figure. but also look at 80's Zartan. He's more armored than not. Why wouldn't his sister be? I mean some of the Dreadnoks were more Mad-Max than
anything else (ie Junk Lacrosse Thrasher). But IF this Zarana was tied to one of the more futuristic GI JOE incarnations... she wouldn't have gotten a simple "25th" update anyways. But they probably would have used the head again anyways... so we might have gotten a classic look Zarana as well.

That's what I loved about the Dreadnoks, they were sort of Mad Max. I didn't realize that until I was an adult, but that was clearly what they were pulling from: that crazy pseudo-future-post-apocalyptic-biker-punk look. Zartan was well-armored, as well as Road Pig and Thrasher, but the others weren't. And despite all the armor, not one of them wore a proper shirt besides Buzzer, and even then he had no sleeves! :)

But they could have done some armor on Zarana without going all the way like you described. Heck, may she is that awesome, I'll never know unless they release her. But my enthusiasm for the "amazing JoeCon Tour Zarana" has been deflated severely now. Again, manboy wishful thinking probably, I guess I shouldn't have assumed it'd be what I wanted in the figure. They even stated this Q&A though, that they wanted to release the iconic 80's version first of a character before reinventing the wheel....

Which leads to....

Sorry man, but I'm being very specific here. I think there's no need for imaginative rationalization. They should simply hit the ARAH style on each of these unreleased figs, then go for the modern updates. I think PoC Zarana is a great idea. But PoC Zarana as the first release in modern era? It's a non-starter. That's been the problem with Joe since RoC. They put out weird reincarnations of figures people want (Footloose, Law and Order, etc.) and then wonder why the crap ends up at Ross.

Exactly my thoughts on some of those figures. To be honest, that Joe desert pack was pretty amazing for a Joe troop-builder set. As off-screen, 2nd or 3rd-tier characters thrown into exclusive packs, I wish TRU had done like Wal-Mart and used 25th parts to make more vintage-inspired figures that we were wanting. Footloose and Law, for example, are 2 customs I have made myself that Hasbro could have thrown together from mostly 25th parts, and been damn close to their vintage counterparts without even requiring new molds. Instead, we got decent desert guys, who besides a mustache on FL and the MP patch and helmet on Law and a name on a stand, didn't really resemble their classic version anyways.

Now, I do think that, regardless of anything that they could have done, that the ROC exclusives were going to show up at ROSS anyways, due to the nature of the Joe line at this time. But perhaps more would have sold at retail price that way?

Lifeline_MD
12-11-2010, 01:37 PM
Tri-State Vipers 3Q) Are there plans for more figures in Modern Era style of original characters? We want a ME style Raptor!!!



Hasbro 3A) Yes, yes, yes!! We will be introducing many Modern Era versions of original characters in 2011. Keep your eyes peeled. As for Raptor, is that the one you really want? Really? Joking aside, some other famous animal-training-villains are definitely getting the Pursuit of Cobra treatment in 2011…



^ Sounds like we're getting a PoC Croc Master. Plus were getting many ME versions of original characters in 2011... this is good news.

except he said "villains", emphasis on plural. Anyone else hoping for Gnawgahyde? That would be epic.

which brings me to the Question I asked from JBL (that noticeably didn't get answered)



WOULD IT REALLY HURT THAT BAD To see a 25th construction Gen. Colton? Major Barrage, Big Brawler, Rampage, Dart, Hotwire, or many of the other characters made in the new sculpt era.. then swept under the rug?

I agree. many o fthose characters looked awesome and I'd love to see them updated.

Monkeywrench
12-11-2010, 01:43 PM
except he said "villains", emphasis on plural. Anyone else hoping for Gnawgahyde? That would be epic.

that would be cool

kneroh
12-11-2010, 01:47 PM
except he said "villains", emphasis on plural.

Get ready for 2 new versions of everyone's favorite animal handler, NIGHT ADDER!

Saboteur
12-11-2010, 01:48 PM
Who was an animal trainer in the Cobra ranks? Croc Master comes to mind as the only "trainer". There were others who had animals as sidekicks, Voltar, Raptor, Gnawgahyde, Desert Scorpion and the divers that had stingrays and barracudas.

It's obviously Croc Master. But since there is more than one, I'm curious who's planned. I'd personally be interested in a Voltar. Gnawgayde would be fairly easy to make with the "Recondo" from wave 2. But there's something about the way they teased about Raptor that makes me think he's coming.

There has been some talk about Raptor with parts existing from Zartan and Jungle Viper. Hasbro might have taken note and decided to siege the advantage on him. It's POC and just about everyone is armored up to a degree. I could see the wings for Raptor being armored, repainted from the Jungle Viper.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 01:50 PM
Like I said in my "disclaimer" portion of my statement, perhaps it was wishful thinking. :) I guess that everyone's excitement over the as-yet-to-be-released-at-all-in-Modern-Era-sculpt Zarana had me assuming that they were so stoked that it was close to the 80s. To be honest, as long as her head is a good sculpt with pink hair and a punk look, I don't care what hairstyle. Shit, from the cartoon to 2 versions of the sculpt on the figure, her head didn't much look the same anyways. If you ask me though, she needs those Zartan shoulder pads, just sculpted for a female (just like a modern Zandar would need to reuse the 25th Zartan arms... that was one design aspect that they all shared and tied them together), denim jeans with some tears in them, and a half-slung pink top. The details, like boots and all the rest, wouldn't be important. Just like how they did Low-Light in a great rendition without being 100% faithful. They got the head, vest and color of the suit correct, although details were changed to update him some.

A gold-ish, anime-punk-inspired Zarana with white hair does not excite me one bit. That doesn't even sound like Zarana to me. Perhaps she will be released in the POC line after all. To be honest, I didn't even half-expect them to release an ARAH Zarana in the PoC line because aesthetically she wouldn't fit without some decent updating. I will be honest though, and say that I'm not happy by finding out that she'll look nothing like her ARAH counterpart, which is why I was excited about her in the first place.



That's what I loved about the Dreadnoks, they were sort of Mad Max. I didn't realize that until I was an adult, but that was clearly what they were pulling from: that crazy pseudo-future-post-apocalyptic-biker-punk look. Zartan was well-armored, as well as Road Pig and Thrasher, but the others weren't. And despite all the armor, not one of them wore a proper shirt besides Buzzer, and even then he had no sleeves! :)

But they could have done some armor on Zarana without going all the way like you described. Heck, may she is that awesome, I'll never know unless they release her. But my enthusiasm for the "amazing JoeCon Tour Zarana" has been deflated severely now. Again, manboy wishful thinking probably, I guess I shouldn't have assumed it'd be what I wanted in the figure. They even stated this Q&A though, that they wanted to release the iconic 80's version first of a character before reinventing the wheel....

Translation: They changed it so it sucks.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/1272883349208.jpg

Shin Densetsu
12-11-2010, 01:57 PM
I'm liking #2's answer. I get why they didn't address #3, as #2 kinda covered it as well as could be expected. We're going to keep getting SE and SS rammed down our throats, but they're using every chance they get to get us some other old favs as well.

For those of you keeping count, there are only a few more versions of Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow left to do from the ARAH mythos:
Ninja Force Snake Eyes
Snake Eyes V4
Ninja Force Storm Shadow
Shadow Ninja Snake Eyes
Shadow Ninja Storm Shadow
Accurate Storm Shadow V2(just need to repaint Ninia Viper, and sculpt new belt)
Most of us wouldn't want a 25th style Ninja Commando Storm Shadow, and most kids wouldn't even recognize him. He looked more like Zorro. I don't even think older fans would recognize him unless you told them that was a canceled Storm Shadow from 1995.

IF Hasbro makes a Storm Shadow on par with POC wave 3 Snake Eyes, with a regular head sculpt, and hooded head sculpt, I think that will be the definitive Storm Shadow in fans eyes.

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 02:14 PM
except he said "villains", emphasis on plural. Anyone else hoping for Gnawgahyde? That would be epic.


Yeah and I said Croc Master... I don't really know who the second or possible third villain would be and this is why I don't have another guess on who it may be... because Hasbro said in this GIJCC Q&A that if the figure hasn't been made already in an 80's tribute then it will have an 80's/25th version first... then after that it can have a PoC/modern interpretation.

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss299/Snake-Eyes_/123Capture.jpg

Mandingo Rex
12-11-2010, 02:15 PM
Translation: They changed it so it sucks.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Thanks for the contribution.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Yeah and I said Croc Master... I don't really know who the second or possible third villain would be and this is why I don't have another guess on who it may be... because Hasbro said in this GIJCC Q&A that if the figure hasn't been made already in an 80's tribute then it will have an 80's/25th version first... then after that it can have a PoC/modern interpretation.

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss299/Snake-Eyes_/123Capture.jpg

Holy shit, it couldn't possibly be Raptor could it?

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Translation: They changed it so it sucks.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Thanks for the contribution.


Actually if you go by the Hasbro answer I just posted above... then the version of Zarana we saw at JoeCon would be eliminated since it wasn't an 80's/25th tribute, but more PoC/modern inspired.

Although they probably could use the head-sculpt.

ero
12-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Like I said in my "disclaimer" portion of my statement, perhaps it was wishful thinking. :) I guess that everyone's excitement over the as-yet-to-be-released-at-all-in-Modern-Era-sculpt Zarana had me assuming that they were so stoked that it was close to the 80s.


That's what I thought, too. I never heard to the contrary (not saying it wasn't put out there).

A gold-ish, anime-punk-inspired Zarana with white hair does not excite me one bit. That doesn't even sound like Zarana to me.

Exactly.

Mandingo Rex
12-11-2010, 02:27 PM
Actually if you go by the Hasbro answer I just posted above... then the version of Zarana we saw at JoeCon would be eliminated since it wasn't an 80's/25th tribute, but more PoC/modern inspired.

Although they probably could use the head-sculpt.

That was the roundabout gist of what I am thinking, regardless of Captain Gif's inability to read anything beyond "Fan not like, fan smash!". But that's relying on Hasbro actually following through with what they say in a Q&A and doing it.

But then they could release 2 versions of Scarlett, who knows. I'm not holding out any hope, and will maybe be pleasantly surprised instead.

jcast
12-11-2010, 02:28 PM
Translation: They changed it so it sucks.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/1272883349208.jpg

Man...you qoute TV Tropes a lot.

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 02:29 PM
As to the questions, it seems like they got a decent person to answer the damned things for once. These weren't the typical canned responses, and it seems like they may have injected some life back in the nearly-dead Joe Q&A's...

^This times 1,000

Almost all the sites answers from Hasbro are the best I've seen and read... let's hope this tradition continues in the future.

It's a very refreshing change.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 02:33 PM
I'm still on the animal traioner villains thing. They said "some other", so it can't be Raptor (perfect Joe-club exclusive down the road though, bascially Desert Zartan + new hood and softgoods cape).

We have Gnawgahyde, Croc Master V2, and who else?

Man...you qoute TV Tropes a lot.

TV Tropes ruined my life. >.>

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 02:35 PM
I'm still on the animal traioner villains thing. They said "some other", so it can't be Raptor (perfect Joe-club exclusive down the road though, bascially Desert Zartan + new hood and softgoods cape).

We have Gnawgahyde, Croc Master V2, and who else?


Slythor w/ a pet human. DUH.

BigErn
12-11-2010, 02:37 PM
I know he's not an animal trainer but he did come with a snake. What if they're working on an ultimate Serpentor, I'd be all over that.

Ricardogasjr
12-11-2010, 02:46 PM
I believe it will be Desert Scorpion in a single card, my guess is that Hasbro won't release the Mechs anymore, so they will release Desert Scorpion with a scorpion

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 02:48 PM
I believe it will be Desert Scorpion in a single card, my guess is that Hasbro won't release the Mechs anymore, so they will release Desert Scorpion with a scorpion

Pretty good guess... I could actually see this happening.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 02:49 PM
I believe it will be Desert Scorpion in a single card, my guess is that Hasbro won't release the Mechs anymore, so they will release Desert Scorpion with a scorpion

I don't know how well the DS would sell on card, but I'd buy at least 2-3 of him. Might have to tone down the red and yellow though.

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 03:13 PM
I don't know how well the DS would sell on card, but I'd buy at least 2-3 of him. Might have to tone down the red and yellow though.

So your saying he would sell better with a mech :D

I think he would sell as well or better than wave 2 Destro or wave 2 Snake Eyes and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he would sell better than the upcoming wave 3 Storm Shadow.

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 03:16 PM
So your saying he would sell better with a mech :D

I think he would sell as well or better than wave 2 Destro or wave 2 Snake Eyes and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he would sell better than the upcoming wave 3 Storm Shadow.


can anyone discern all the parts that make up the POC Desert Scorpion?

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/poc-superpage-mechs-wave-1-2011/minotaur-01.jpg

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Action Figure News.CA answers: Final 2010 Hasbro GIJOE Q&A Answers for ActionFigureNews.ca - Canadian Action Figure News and Discussion (http://www.actionfigurenews.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=6132)

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 03:19 PM
can anyone discern all the parts that make up the POC Desert Scorpion?



http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1831/dscf13861.jpg

SE V1 head, Night Creeper head gear, Neo Viper torso, Spirit/Mainframes hands, HISS Driver lower legs, upper legs are from V1 SE,Stalker,etc. not sure on the arms or web-gear it looks like a custom thing using Dukes grenades.

Shin Densetsu
12-11-2010, 03:20 PM
I don't know how well the DS would sell on card, but I'd buy at least 2-3 of him. Might have to tone down the red and yellow though.

I'd buy it, ALWAYS liked the design. Bad ass.

So your saying he would sell better with a mech :D

I think he would sell as well or better than wave 2 Destro or wave 2 Snake Eyes and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he would sell better than the upcoming wave 3 Storm Shadow.

Wave 2 Destro and Snake Eyes do not sell well, I think Storm Shadow will do better than wave 2 Snake Eyes, because he doesn't look too far off from how he is generally seen. Wave 2 Snake Eyes does not look like a Snake Eyes figure aside from the head sculpt.

Gyre-Viper
12-11-2010, 03:22 PM
SE V1 head, Night Creeper head gear, Neo Viper torso, HISS Driver lower legs not sure on the arms, hands, and upper legs.

that was fast. thanks.

Zefram
12-11-2010, 03:24 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1831/dscf13861.jpg

SE V1 head, Night Creeper head gear, Neo Viper torso, HISS Driver lower legs not sure on the arms, hands, and upper legs.

I think you got everything but the torso. The pic is fuzzy, but it looks a bit more like the Devils Due Zartan torso.

Arms might be Serpentors.

SNAKE EYES
12-11-2010, 03:28 PM
that was fast. thanks.

I try :D I updated with some more parts below.

I think you got everything but the torso. The pic is fuzzy, but it looks a bit more like the Devils Due Zartan torso.

Arms might be Serpentors.

I found a better pic...

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1831/dscf13861.jpg

SE V1 head, Night Creeper head gear, Neo Viper torso, Spirit/Mainframes hands, HISS Driver lower legs, upper legs are from V1 SE,Stalker,etc. not sure on the arms or web-gear it looks like a custom thing using Dukes grenades.