Renegades Premiere Discussion Thread

[MAJOR BLOOD]

It's growing on me but it's hard to like it.

^^^Out of the whole review I found this to be the best thing written. ;)

Actually, that was an excellent review for me since I have not yet seen it. Well thought out and good points for and against. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. Great read, I'm glad I had somebody do it for me.

[Black Swan]

Well I saw both episodes of Renegades and it shows promise. I like the team concept of Joes on the run. Minderbender is the wild card in the mix probably too over the top and he might be better in small doses as the show moves on. Definitely need to see more of CC and the Baroness.Overall it was better than I expected. I think Flint and Tunnel Rat are my favorite of the Joes. Although, I am not a fan of the Bio Viper, the use of it in storyline was interesting. I just he goes away and Mindbender moves on to other creations.;)
I also so checked out TF Prime. I think it kinda of weird for Optimus to have a mouth but okay. I guess these change. As for someone that hasn't seen TF since the Movie and I talking about the one that came out of in the 80's it seem like I could watch this also.

The coolest thing of it all was seeing Joe and Transformers back to back on tv again.

[Barefoot Jedi]

Gotta admit, I am a little disappointed with the GI JOE Fandom, The Prime episodes have been on Youtube for hours but still no Renegades. Luckily I have the Hub and DVR'd them but a lot of my friends are waiting on one of you to get this stuff uploaded! :)

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[Gatchaman]

I'm guessing the "public" COBRA symbol is just that, the public image of COBRA and the real symbol (an example of aesthetic perfection) will appear later.

That’s what I am thinking too. You all have to remember this is just the 1st two episodes of a 5 year planed run. They said this show was an introduction show so you have to give it time. More people will be introduced and more cool things will come. They can’t show every person who ever was in the GI Joe verse in two episodes and they don’t want to give everything away in the first few episodes either. What fun would that be?

[SH0CKWAVE]

The animation does actually remind me of X-men evolution, not sure who said that.

i did.

along w a few incendiaries here and there.

many of which were in error.

long live GI Joe.

today is indeed a historic day for the franchise. i'm stoked to have witnessed the "evolution."

[Gatchaman]

Well I saw both episodes of Renegades and it shows promise. I like the team concept of Joes on the run. Minderbender is the wild card in the mix probably too over the top and he might be better in small doses as the show moves on. Definitely need to see more of CC and the Baroness.Overall it was better than I expected. I think Flint and Tunnel Rat are my favorite of the Joes. Although, I am not a fan of the Bio Viper, the use of it in storyline was interesting. I just he goes away and Mindbender moves on to other creations.;)
I also so checked out TF Prime. I think it kinda of weird for Optimus to have a mouth but okay. I guess these change. As for someone that hasn't seen TF since the Movie and I talking about the one that came out of in the 80's it seem like I could watch this also.

The coolest thing of it all was seeing Joe and Transformers back to back on tv again.


I have to agree about the Bio-Viper. I didn't mind it at all but I don't want to be seeing it all threw this toon. It was cool but let’s move on now.

[Zefram]

i did.

along w a few incendiaries here and there.

many of which were in error.

long live GI Joe.

today is indeed a historic day for the franchise. i'm stoked to have witnessed the "evolution."

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[monkeywrench1988]

it wasn't bad, I have a few gripes though, 1) Mindbender's dialogue, no where near as bad as the original but still... 2) killing off Ripcord for shock value, I know we need to start the series off with a bang but this ain't it

[SH0CKWAVE]

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/977/c72d15dea7392aa8ce0fff8.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/883/dukefromgijoerenegadesb.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/520/cobrarenegadesfixedbylr.jpg

win. win. win.

[CrimsonGuard101]

we need to start the series off with a bang but this ain't it

I beg to differ! That shat was terrific...boom dufus shows up BOOM dufus is dead. That was the only thing I jumped outta my seat for the entire show. I actually rewound it a couple of times. i was like YESSSSS that shmuck is dead! but given we dont thave a body I feel he will be turned into Cyborg War machine by Dr. Retardbender since thats the next franchise to get ripped over into Renegades..

[villainsrule]

I agree with most things you wrote monkeywrench. I think you bring the perfect adult fan perspective while still understanding it is a show for kids...something other fans have trouble comprehending. The show has a lot of potential and definitely room to add other team members as they spread the news that Cobra is bad. Plus, by having Cobra all over the world and truly hidden in plain sight let's them explain how Cobra has always had the money and resources to create such a huge army...something the sunbow show never truly presented. I'll be watching this show with an open mind since it seem pretty good so far and has a decent blend of sunbow mixed with resolute.

[ksavelle]

i really liked this show, a fresh twist on the storys i love

[Zefram]

I beg to differ! That shat was terrific...boom dufus shows up BOOM dufus is dead. That was the only thing I jumped outta my seat for the entire show. I actually rewound it a couple of times. i was like YESSSSS that shmuck is dead! but given we dont thave a body I feel he will be turned into Cyborg War machine by Dr. Retardbender since thats the next franchise to get ripped over into Renegades..

Don't you think that's Overkill?

[SH0CKWAVE]

Clem deserves more than a shout out.

he's the closest thing to a celebrity on this forum.

i'd be glad to show him my adam's apple.

in all seriousness, excellent work Clem.

i underestimated the lot of you and i'm man enough to admit i was offside.

[jcast]

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/977/c72d15dea7392aa8ce0fff8.jpg

Where's this poster from?

[Monkeywrench]

I came in with really no expectations except to see a fun show... and I did.

I can't say the same but I gotta admit. I'm impressed. I can't blame you for hating Mindbender. I did at first too.

^^^Out of the whole review I found this to be the best thing written. ;)

Actually, that was an excellent review for me since I have not yet seen it. Well thought out and good points for and against. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. Great read, I'm glad I had somebody do it for me.

Thanks homie and don't worry you will get to watch it soon. It will be "shared".

I agree with most things you wrote monkeywrench. I think you bring the perfect adult fan perspective while still understanding it is a show for kids...something other fans have trouble comprehending. The show has a lot of potential and definitely room to add other team members as they spread the news that Cobra is bad. Plus, by having Cobra all over the world and truly hidden in plain sight let's them explain how Cobra has always had the money and resources to create such a huge army...something the sunbow show never truly presented. I'll be watching this show with an open mind since it seem pretty good so far and has a decent blend of sunbow mixed with resolute.

Thanks. I'm one of those guys who will never let go of "my Joe". I will always defend and love ARAH, Sunbow and Resolute, however I'm not stupid. I know Joe needs to be "updated" to get in with todays youth and unlock RoC, Renegades is on the right path.... so far

i really liked this show, a fresh twist on the storys i love

I agree.

[SH0CKWAVE]

Where's this poster from?

Cobra Industries

...for a better tomorrow.


i love the propaganda angle. so keen!

found this on deviantART, btw. along w the others.

props to the artistes and brilliant designers out there - hiding behind your small post counts.

mad props and much respect to the mad men that make it all happen for we the geeks.

this is 'good stuff' and i totally dig it.

GI Joe keeps throwing punches, refusing to die.

like a champ.

[kneroh]

Where's this poster from?

It was originally commissioned to a hasbro booth give-a-way at joecon last year.

[DaViper]

watched both prime and renegade tonight. I liked renegade over prime (had more of a interesting story line) the only gripe I had with renegade was SE always popping up and coming to the rescue. Plus the non-stop posing after chopping up bio-vipers (it got old) Overall the proportion of the characters were a lot better seeing them in moving frames then still pictures. I would watch it again.....



But I still love me some more resolute.. :D

[Gatchaman]

I have to agree with you about SE posing after everything he did. Its cool when done once and awhile but they were doing it waaaay to much.

[MeLikeJinx]

I have to agree with you about SE posing after everything he did. Its cool when done once and awhile but they were doing it waaaay to much.
I'm like the biggest poser there is... so I have no problem with SE posing all the time. LOL.

[otsu vihara]

I liked it. I was worried the animation would be a little weird, but it wasn't that bad. Though I do miss the more expressive facial expressions from the sunbow days. The only thing I can say that I absolutely don't appreciate is the Renegades interpretation of Dr. Mindbender. That one I just can't wrap my "mind" around. From what I gather from reading the forum here, I'm one of the few that really liked the DD version of G.I. Joe and I particularly liked their version of Mindbender. The Renegades version is just ridiculous IMO... but he might grow on me. Also the "bio-viper" concept just left with a sort of 'meh' reaction. But the rest is good enough that it doesn't bother me so much. I really like the concept. It's new and deviate's from all other incarnation's before it. When it was announced, I feared that it would follow the adaption of ROC (which I did *not* like), but Renegades is it's own entity. I like their takes on most all characters. I was disappointed that some of my favorite characters (Zartan, Beachhead, Stalker) were left out... but that can easily change. The music is surprisingly good and so are the voiceovers. The overall storyline seems solid and grounded. I like this version of Cobra: a mega-corporate giant that is actually the unseen threat. There's a nice twist of irony in that this is being produced under Discovery. As an anarcho-socialist/non-capitalist I can appreciate the political complexities that are presented in the show. Realistically, it's the only way an organization like Cobra could exist in today's world. I really like the concept of a small rogue team of outlaw Joe's being trapped in the middle of Cobra as perceived and Cobra as the actually are, but they are the only one's that know what they are up to. The concept of CC as an unseen puppetmaster that hides behind a hologram is a fantastic idea, though I do love the old CC that ruthlessly shot people on a battlefield. This CC is updated where he not only conceals his identity behind a mask, but is not much more than a disembodied, totalitarian voice. Baroness is also well-done. I haven't seen Destro yet, but I'm very curious how that scenario plays out and his a relationship to CC. The same goes for X/T. I've always liked the twins and wanted to see a radically different interpretation of their roles. So far, those are my thoughts.

p.s.-- and my 2 cents on what to do with people that make antagonizing commentaries (be it intentional or not) is simply to just ignore them and not allow the comment to eat up 3/4 of the forum conversation. Just sayin'.

[Malcadon]

I agree with most of what MW hates about the show, but I'm still not much of a fan of what he did like about it: I did not like Mind Bender; the action was kinda boring (I do agree that kids show should be more violent, as noted below); I felt that they should have used "Arb Co." instead of "Cobra" as a company name; Jason Marsden makes Duke sound too whelpish; and I like my Snake Eyes to be a Commando and a Ninja - he over-played that "ninja power ranger" card in the 90's! Most of all, I hate how this was dumb-down for kids. There are already TONS of kid-friendly shows on TV, and its getting old! I remember Johnny Quest was violent, and the original G.I.Joe cartoon was full of flirtation and sexual innuendos - the old Buggs Bunny cartoons had both in spades and then some! I'm not asking for much! All I what to see are more cartoons that are slightly more mature!

If Destro's bio - from the Hub web-site - is any indication, he his going to be The Commander's man-bitch! I really loath this scenario!

I find the show to be so-so, as it hard to like this program with such a glorious c**k-tease like Resolute.

[Snake Shadow09]

where can i watch this online?

[jai]

I'll admit I am glad to see an animated G.I. Joe back on the air, and I like the story line. But I definately dont like the animation, the cobra symbol, and the major changes to some characters appearances.

[FumblesYV0]

I like renegades better than the 80's show

[cobralalalala!]

I don't have the Hub. Reading all the "Yeah!! Woo!! This is awesome!!" you guys are killing me :)

I may have to upgrade my cable package just for the Hub.

[cobralalalala!]

YouTube - G.I. Joe Renegades - Cobra Industries Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mswulcDEHVs)


YouTube - Veridian Dynamics: We Make That (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUvu-9yDnUE&feature=related)

[IIIzoeIII]

so far what I've seen of the cartoon looks kinda quiet...
not enough music or sound effects or something its same reason why the new he-man cartoon bombed.just too quiet.not enough enthusiasm.

oh yeah and (the last air bender) movie it also had this problem and bombed as well.

they just need to change some things around a lil bit.

[hantei40]

I liked it. Gonna watch it again this morning with the kids. I haven't seriously collected 3 3/4 in a while, but this really got me interested.

[fireflyguy]

I finally got home at 11pm last night. The wife and kids were in bed, so I watched Renegades.

I liked it overall. I thought the plot was better when compared to ARAH. I also thought it was waaaaaayyyy less cheesier than the ARAH toon, even with the beginning as it was.

Lots of cool potential vehicles as well as cool potential figures, as long as they keep them in the PoC style like they said they would. Well, come to think of it, though, even if they made cartoonish looking figs, it wouldn't be that bad as I think the body-style for the Renegades animation looks better than the CW.

The verdict is still out for me on the Bio-viper. I didn't think I would like it, but it kinds grew on me a little.

[Trooper13]

Seriously, Adler is no joke in that role.

This. I thought that was a great way to end the episodes. As soon as the credits rolled I wanted to see more of CC. I think this version is brilliant.

I gotta admit. The first 2 shows were pretty damn good. Flint and Baroness were great

I loved that he caught her in the lie the second he showed up, but was slick enough to "play the game" with her to get his way. This version of Flint really nails him to a tee I think. I love that the Baroness has the accent again, and that she's back to being the "euro-trash girl" we all loved. One thing I hated about RoC was the americanization of the character. Wether or not she was always supposed to be european or not, I loved the accent and the look of the original, and I think this is a perfect update. I really hope we get Renegades Baroness and Flint figures under the PoC format.

[Immortal_Joker]

Wait so he had the Beast Wars Optimus Primal body?

Yea Megatron had the Optimal Optimus Primal's body aka the upgraded transmetal 2 body that held Optimus Prime's spark

[Trooper13]

It seems Cobra got the shaft in the first two eps though... no different types of Vipers showing up or anything. Thought for sure there would have been some Alley Vipers showing up.

Really? The fact that we just saw Blueshirts is what I loved. All the different Vipers are the lamest thing they ever did to Cobra. Well, next to this...

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080810153720/gijoe/images/thumb/f/f4/RAH_CCommander05.jpg/200px-RAH_CCommander05.jpg

[BeachHead86]

I absolutely loved it. Can't wait for some toys.

[Unclassified]

i fell asleep as it came on, so i missed it, i noticed it said lee majors was in it though..

[Trooper13]

While I loved this show, I'm going back and watching it again, and just noticed that Duke grabbed that live wire like it was nothing. I hope kids don't pick up on that. :/

[Troynos]

Either the Hub needs to get it up now or the torrents have to come out.

Either way I need to see it NOW!!!

[Immortal_Joker]

Either the Hub needs to get it up now or the torrents have to come out.

Either way I need to see it NOW!!!

Too bad i cant view it on the Hub Website :-(

[Troynos]

I don't have the Hub. Reading all the "Yeah!! Woo!! This is awesome!!" you guys are killing me :)

I may have to upgrade my cable package just for the Hub.

No kidding. I may have to as well.

[Killer 1]

Just finished watching it and am absolutely amazed about the overall positive reaction this show is getting. Who would have thought the biggest turd of the weekend would have nothing to do with the digestion of Thursday's turkey dinner?

[Echo7Solo]

ha ha...

[Troynos]

Seriously... someone needs to get this online ASAP

[Night Viper 143]

They interviewed Lady Jaye's VA. apparently she's going to be Duke's inside source with the Joes while they're on the run. I think they're setting it up so that Flint is the one chasing Duke. Interesting possibilities for conflict there.

For a second I thought you said... "interviewed Lady Jaye's Vagina..." I was going to ask you where to find that? Good thing I re-read the post before going public with what kind of perv I am... whew.

wait, did I just type that out loud. Crap, that was supposed to be a PM.

I so suck at this.

Sweet! Ripcords dead!

What, they didn't kill Bazooka first... who's writing this schtick!

Hmmm Hawk looks like Nick Fury.

I thought he looked like what's-his-name from the first iron man, minus the beard...

Woo!!! Lovin'it so far. Tunnel Rat FTW.

QFT!!!!

re: Renegades

"This is so much better than the old ones. The dialogue is so much better... the sound is not all cheesy."

- Mrs Shockwave

Mrs. Shockwave has spoken, and I see you have dutifully changed your opinion as appropriate. You are getting this marriage thing down pretty quick... Good for you!

That was wonderful! It met all of expectations and I felt like a kid while watching it. This is going to be a great year for GI Joe!

Agreed!!!

I think Hawk lost the right eye and CC is missing the left, maybe this will be one of those eye for eye series.

There is no evidence that the other eye on CC is missing yet. But that could be an interesting twist. I personally like how they molded the Movie version with the old school version. They have been trying to do this in all the different comics too. I think they are getting closer everytime... in fact I think that would make an excellent thread.



I imagine Joe fans who like their Joe pure military won't enjoy Renegades as much as those who appreciate the sci-fi elements, though honestly I think there was plenty of military content.

I liked the re-interpretations. Come on, new Dr. Mindbender is far more "realistic" than his source material. :)

From the very first issue of GI Joe in Marvel, the Joes and Cobra have been on the cutting edge of technology. They have to be, otherwise how would Destro (that evil genius) make any money. Furthermore, considering we can now do cloning, we have discovered Dark Matter, have Rail Guns and Smart Grenades already mastered... what's left but this "sci-fi drivel" that really isn't that far off into our future.

or if he dies every episode like Kenny.


"You killed Weems! You Bastards!"

I would totally love that...

I'm with you. No body, no death.

Here's another great possible thread... When was the first time you realized this in your reading... Batman, GI Joe, General Hospital, etc...

Where's PitViper when you need him. I love his threads.

[D-Unit]

I thought it was decent, way better than the live action movie. When I clicked on this thread, I knew it would be a bunch of "it sucks, waaaaah". Joe fans are just like Transformers fans. Anything that is new or different automatically sucks.

Change=Bad (according to most on here).

[Troynos]

I thought it was decent, way better than the live action movie. When I clicked on this thread, I knew it would be a bunch of "it sucks, waaaaah". Joe fans are just like Transformers fans. Anything that is new or different automatically sucks.

Change=Bad (according to most on here).

Although in this case, most are liking the changes in Renegades. There's few negative comments and most of those are from people who you knew would respond negatively anyways.

[D00MTR0N]

i cannot believe i cant find this online ANYWHERE!

[talldrkhansom]

I missed it all together. Will the show air every friday or everyday and at what time?

[Scorpion]

I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but I wanted to comment on some of the arguing on here.
First, to SH0CKWAVE: I'm glad that you've changed your mind on the show.
Second, I don't have a problem with people who don't like Renegades or Prime or whatever. I have a problem with people who say it sucks before having seen it.
and I have a problem with the people who don't like it, and let you know by saying things like
"GI Joe is teh suxxxors now....and allof yuo sheep who leik it are fa990tz". Which is what a good portion of the haters have been doing.
If you dislike it...tell us why, thoughtful reasons why...not ignorant reasons why.

[CVdelgado]

the first time i tried to read this thread i gave up because of all the bitching. i guess this is it though... ill just keep reading.

someone post a link asap when this thing goes up online.

[D00MTR0N]

i surprised its not on youtube

[Iron Will]

I think having been born in '72 and enjoying a great string of 80s cartoons, right now is the best block of shows at once since then!

Young Justice - Pure win! Art is great and enough guest appearances and comic refs to keep any DC fan happy.

GI Joe Renegades - Good update on the classic. Better than the movie and just a little short of Resolute.

Transformers Prime - Better than the movies. Longer I watched the more the animation grew on me. Megatron and Soundwave designs are awesome!

Avengers - Animation is a little rough but it keeps me watching.

Thundercats - Just around the corner!

At the end of each of the current shows, I want the next right away! Plus can't wait for figure lines from each show!

[CVdelgado]

wow.... Just, wow.



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start a new thread and then for f***s sake remember to not feed the trolls.

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thiiiiiiiiiis^^^^^

[fireflyguy]

I thought it was decent, way better than the live action movie. When I clicked on this thread, I knew it would be a bunch of "it sucks, waaaaah". Joe fans are just like Transformers fans. Anything that is new or different automatically sucks.

Change=Bad (according to most on here).

I have to say that I'm down with the changes. It's kinda cool to have a totally new take on GI Joe. I'm excited to see where it leads. It's cool having some of the "core" or more popular characters from ARAH (LJ, Flint, Scarlett, SE, etc) but in somewhat different roles. And it's cool to see a reinvention of a character like Dr. Mindbender. I like this version of him 110% more than the ARAH version. I'm not crazy about the CC right now, bit I'm willing to give it a chance.

Anyway, I'm excited about the next episode, which according to my DVR is next Friday.

[Tuskegee Joe]

What I’m about to say is not a critique. More a concern. Right now, anyone can drive-thru McDonalds and get a Happy Meal promoting Tranformers new toon. Joe, despite some of his rave reviews apparently surpassing even TF’s new toon, has not a crumb to follow-thru to feed Joe’s young new fans. But hey, maybe Hasbro has their own Mainframe computer techies who can fast-track some Joe-versions of their best-selling cel phone games? Just something to also equally spread the word to kids about this otherwise great new Joe toon!

I recall seeing a ROC Monopoly game. Maybe a Renegades Monopoly cel game centered on Cobra Industries! I heard there’s a “Connect 4” cel game too. Maybe just switch its checker-pieces to Cobra logos and Joe star/eagle logos? Whoever wins unlocks a prize; maybe unlocking a green metal military file-cabinet containing a top secret file(card) = thus familiarizing kids into knowing more Joes & Cobras.

“Girl Talk” is one Hasbro game I haven’t played; because I’m male. But this new toon does have a girl-market potential given its strong female characters. This thread did mention someone’s girl stopped to enjoy the toon. So Hasbro, give a crumb to Joe and follow-thru with your otherwise good work! No need for tools/molds; just Joe-themed cel games for now. Again, my concern is TF was fed more to its young fans via Happy Meals. Maybe Hasbro’s talented own Mainframe techies can put Joe in iPads and cel games just to help spread the word. Hopefully word of this new toon spreads to new fans who'll help us carry G.I.Joe towards a more golden 50th anniversary…

[Night Viper 143]

If he's in the opening credits chances are we haven't seen the last of Ripcord. I doubt they would have done the extra effort if he was only in one episode.

Hopefully I'm proven wrong though.

I don't know, they do it all the time in reality shows. There's always hope, right Zef... even if you are hoping in what I believe is the wrong direction!

I liked both Prime and Renegades...

Renegades I liked better good story...not overly happy with the animation but I think in both shows the story is likely to outweigh my issues with animation.

I really hope these two properties have found their Clone Wars.


Honestly I thought the animation was better than 90% of the claptrap available out there on CN/Nick. How does anyone get away with pitching a show with art like Flapjack and Adventure Time and not get pitched out onto the street for their 'trouble' and by 'trouble' I mean the 30 seconds they put into it in the lobby before seeing the boss, on the back of their subway napkin.

Compared to that, these guys are Davinci. And unfortunately, that is the accepted norm now. It really rattles my cage gents.

I refuse to wait.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/bi_o.jpg

I am so developing a man crush on you right now, Ken.


Okay, I'm going to say this, and you can hate me all you like. For all the "stylized figures" fans out there. I just don't see it. I know you guys want them. I know there are those who claim to "KNOW" that a full blown stylized line is still coming. I just don't see it. While the look of this cartoon is stylized, I don't think it's THAT stylized to warrant a need to depart from the current format.

Great toon though, can't wait for the vehicles.

They can filter any Renegades, animated character through POC they want, as long as they keep throwing me a Lowlight/Alley Viper Bone here and there. I just want to continue to have a reason to visit the toy aisle in Walmart when I go.

Yikes, a tad bit harsh, maybe? It was good overall, but I still cannot wrap my head around the fact they made Lady Jaye latino.

See, now for me... that just ramped her up from Hot to Caliente!

Wow I finally got to the end of all these posts. I thought I wouldn't be able to read them all faster then everyone is posting new comments.

Yuh.

BTW, say whatever you will about Ripcord, but the man did not go out like a bitch.

True, it was a truly heroic death. And not like how Tony killed his little cousin Christopher at the end of Sopranos. That really cheesed me off. That should have been at least a gunfight between Tony and his Boys against Christopher and his crew.

I'm reminded of Sven/Shirogane from Voltron/Golion. I think his return is a flip o' the coin.

We should take bets.

Like a Deadpool but opposite. Me likey. Another great idea for a thread!

I dug it... only thing I didn't care for was the re-imagined Dr. Mindbender... I didn't mind the look so much as the "dude" dialogue he had.

Did anyone happen to catch Young Justice? Now that was pretty badass...

Loved Mindbender.

Liked Young Justice. Alot of possibilities for greatness there. Shame it won't be released as a series until Jan.

I don't think the Joes were intended to be an elite fighting force for this series, at least at the beginning, as this is, if I be not deceived, an origin-type thing.

That's what they said in the making-of special anyway.

Should stand to reason. I thought the way they assembled the crew was perfect for an exposition episode. These guys can't be the battle hardened best of the best to get roped into trouble like this. If Renegades Duke was 'our Duke'. He'd just call someone he knows and come in that way. Then the Gov't would be like... "well, if Duke says so, it must be true... Let's hit those f'rs." Then we wouldn't have multiple seasons much less 26 episodes. As Zefram would say, we gotta wait until Scarlett "grows a beard" and then everything will be okay!

Unlike their Sunbow and Marvel counterparts that were super-soldiers.

I hate it you're so unhappy.

A combination of medication and therapy can help perhaps.

Ahh, the Doctor is in... let's sit back and watch an impromptu episode of In Treatment.

I thought with as passionate as you are in your criticism you had the GIJOE fanfic equivalent of King Lear waiting in the wings.

:(

-Well that was a bit of a let-down, for a second I thought you were going to try and help the guy. You didn't even ask him how his relationship with his mother was... CG101, personally, I'd ask for my money and hour back!

I don't have the Hub. Reading all the "Yeah!! Woo!! This is awesome!!" you guys are killing me :)

I may have to upgrade my cable package just for the Hub.

Do it brother, and don't look back. There is a ton of awesomeness on the Hub even before GI Joe Renegades released. Its on almost everynight over here at our house. (Wonder Years and Doogie Howser rules!)

Either the Hub needs to get it up now or the torrents have to come out.

Either way I need to see it NOW!!!

Wow, 50 plus pages of thread without the wise and often much appreciated opinion of our number one poster...

Trooper-13 (cause your prior mil, you'll get this) open a log book brother, today may be historical!

the first time i tried to read this thread i gave up because of all the bitching. i guess this is it though... ill just keep reading.

someone post a link asap when this thing goes up online.

I only quoted you because you were the last one to post and I was too lazy to go back and find my last multi-quote.

But hey, I do like the "Cut of your Jib Sailor!"

[kneroh]

What I’m about to say is not a critique. More a concern. Right now, anyone can drive-thru McDonalds and get a Happy Meal promoting Tranformers new toon. Joe, despite his rave reviews surpassing even TF’s new toon, has not a crumb to follow-thru to feed Joe’s young new fans. But hey, maybe Hasbro has their own Mainframe computer techies who can fast-track some Joe-versions of their best-selling cel phone games? Just something to also equally spread the word to kids about this otherwise great new Joe toon!

A shows lead in is the best promotion it can get.

[alcoholic ewok]

Always a good sign when you can't find a torrent of it and its not up on iTunes for rent...

[Trooper13]

What I’m about to say is not a critique. More a concern. Right now, anyone can drive-thru McDonalds and get a Happy Meal promoting Tranformers new toon. Joe, despite some of his rave reviews apparently surpassing even TF’s new toon, has not a crumb to follow-thru to feed Joe’s young new fans. But hey, maybe Hasbro has their own Mainframe computer techies who can fast-track some Joe-versions of their best-selling cel phone games? Just something to also equally spread the word to kids about this otherwise great new Joe toon!

I share your concern, too. I think I might have even mentioned it off-handedly in one of my first posts. Since RoC, Hasbro has seemed very reluctant to give Joe any sort of a "push". It would be a real shame for them to come up with a show with this much potential and not throw their weight, and money behind it.


I recall seeing a ROC Monopoly game. Maybe a Renegades Monopoly cel game centered on Cobra Industries! I heard there’s a “Connect 4” cel game too. Maybe just switch its checker-pieces to Cobra logos and Joe star/eagle logos? Whoever wins unlocks a prize; unlocking a virtual green military metal file-cabinet containing a top secret file(card) = thus familiarizing kids into knowing more Joes & Cobras characters.

A really well done Renegades video game is a must. While I personally love FPS', I think it'd be a mistake for a kids game. I think a solid 3PS, with a strong RPG storyline would be best. Something along the lines of one of the Bond games in terms of balance and gameplay, but obviously for kids.


“Girl Talk” is one Hasbro game I haven’t played; because I’m male. But this new toon does have a girl-market potential given its strong female characters. This thread did mention someone’s girl stopped to enjoy the toon.

I was thinking the same thing. Joe has always had strong female characters, however this time they are all front and center in the storylines and I think it's great. Baroness, Scarlet, and Lady Jaye were all very well written and engaging characters without being clones of each other for their respective factions. I think Hasbro could snag some young female fans with this show, and might have just shot themselves in the foot with their excuse for not putting out female figures. The female characters were some of the most enjoyable parts of this show.

[Mainframe]

I'm itching for vehicles.

I'm itching from crabs.

[g-man]

I'm itching from crabs.

I thought I had a case of Crabs....Turns out I only had 23.

[Snake Shadow09]

someone tell me where i can watch this!

[returnofplex]

The story was pretty good and surpassed my expectations. However the animation was PURE crap just as I thought it would be. EVERYONE looks the same; The same wide flat noses, and tiny little eyes too far apart. I got called a bigot last time I pointed this out but this looks far removed from the real AMERICAN hero.

[fireflyguy]

The story was pretty good and surpassed my expectations. However the animation was PURE crap just as I thought it would be. EVERYONE looks the same; The same wide flat noses, and tiny little eyes too far apart. I got called a bigot last time I pointed this out but this looks far removed from the real AMERICAN hero.

I see what you are saying. But I think that in order to appeal to a wider audience, i.e. those in countries foreign to North America, they are dropping the "Real American Hero" thing. I have mixed feelings about it, but either way I'll still watch the show.

As for the animation, I was hoping for something along the lines of CW, but I am glad that the characters' body types aren't like those on the CW.

I have been very pleased with the story myself.

[speedocub]

OK, I feel for you poor unfortunate souls who have not seen the episodes yet or those of you who will be relocated to the internet in order to view this show.

That said, remember the days when you didn't have to have cable to watch GI Joe, Transformers, Smurfs, Brady Bunch, Jem, and Futurama...to name a mere few? It's a tragedy I feel that in this day of high speed connectivity that members of the Tank have the time and money to be online yet their local cable provider does not have the HUB...and the only source for specifically the Hasbro properties. Fox, ABC, NBC, or CBS should be carrying this program on Saturday, the traditional cartoon day of the week...would it be hard?

I remember the first time I saw GI Joe, it was on Saturday and I had to wait 5 weeks to see the whole story....I was hooked and pretty much right after that 5 weeks, I was into the figures and never looked back. It works...Renegades is not "great" but it's good and with support can be better and eventually great...and if Hasbro really wants to get kids into Joe again, it needs to be put on the networks where even the poorest of kids and the unfortunate tankers here even can see it on their television. NO one should have to rely on torrents, DVD, Netflix or a website to broadcast a program that is meant for kids. Especially cable. Although cable gives us variety and mass content. GI Joe is a marketing campaign for toys. We're not talking "Days of Our Lives" here...they don't have an action figure line, nor a doll line, or even party favor brand recognition...JOE and TRANSFORMERS DO!

Its been said before that Hasbro is out there doing their marketing and if they pump up GI Joe, kids (parents) will buy it...but only the kids that can watch it. If I can watch Saturday morning cartoons and I see, TMNT, DC Properties, ZHU-ZHU, Bakugan, Bey Blade and other toys (commercials) out there and I got 7 dollars allowance to spend...I'm gonna buy what I know and buy these and pass up Joe on the shelves...so put it somewhere where everyone can see it, interest more "clientele", and give us the 'kids' what we want. More frickin' GI JOE toys!

In closing, the HUB is great, awesome even...except the Game Shows...America's funniest home videos, game shows and reality TV have taken over the channels. And I for one feel that the HUB will be an awesome outlet for first run programming...but give the kids what they want in a medium that they can view the program on!

At the very least BASIC cable.

[OSOK]

havent seen it yet :(, where can you watch it?

[Headman]

what does "that that good" mean?

[Darth Awgmon]

Really enjoyed Renegades. I thought the writing was really good for a kid's cartoon. I also liked the banter between the different Joes and between Mindbender and the Baroness. I'm always about old-school in the Joe universe, but this was a fresh take on GI joe that I liked alot. For those comparing it to ROC, you are ridiculous. ROC was a major motion picture - this is a cartoon for kids on basic cable (and it kicks ROC's ass!). Can't wait for more.
I also think it is funny how many haters want to crap all over Renegades after the first day. And for the people who said they had "seen" it before the premier and that it sucked (Shockwave), you were proven to be full of shit.
TF Prime was also good, but not as good as Renegades.

[Gyre-Viper]

what does "that that good" mean?



i have no idea. hahahha.

someone edited my first post and put 'poll added' and now it looks like
I'm the one that started the poll with the typo.

[Echo7Solo]

what does "that that good" mean?

it means I have a hell of a headache and typing isn't easy right now lol

[Echo7Solo]

havent seen it yet :(, where can you watch it?

YouTube - G.I joe renegades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dgtuS1fU70)

not the best quality but not bad

[OSOK]

YouTube - G.I joe renegades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dgtuS1fU70)

not the best quality but not bad
cool, thanks!

[Headman]

I'll have to re-watch the first two episodes when I'm not bored out of my mind, begging for death or the end of the episode, whichever comes first. Maybe I'll like it better then.

[Echo7Solo]

cool, thanks!

taotd

[Echo7Solo]

I'll have to re-watch the first two episodes when I'm not bored out of my mind, begging for death or the end of the episode, whichever comes first. Maybe I'll like it better then.

I'm confused

[9adam83]

I liked Renegades, minus the asian looking characters that really have no detail to them. The storyline has potential and I thought it was making sense. I would like to see more characters and it could have used a better intro and some bumpers in the show. I am willing to give it a shot.

[speedocub]

i have no idea. hahahha.

someone edited my first post and put 'poll added' and now it looks like
I'm the one that started the poll with the typo.


wha, you didn't do that?

[Adamantite]

YouTube - G.I joe renegades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dgtuS1fU70)

not the best quality but not bad


General Hawk posted better clips last night:

Episode One – The Descent (Part 1) | G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://generalsjoes.com/renegades/episode-guide/season-one/episode-one-the-descent-part-1/)

Episode Two – The Descent (Part 2) | G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://generalsjoes.com/renegades/episode-guide/season-one/episode-two-the-descent-part-2/)

[WeaponXCustoms]

So I missed the show Im a slave to people who will post it to youtube, but its cool :) The thing that bothers me the most and I dont understand is why we put ARAH on such a pedastal. The animation, acting and storys isnt much better than anything out now. It was our show sure and we hold it dear because of childhood memories. Isnt that the point for Renegades? If this draws kids and another generation into GiJoe hasnt it completed its mission already? If one kid goes into the store and goes "hey mom theres Duke can I get him?" Isnt the job done? Its not a cartoon for adults we already had Resolute. So why does everyone expect so much from it when its not directed at us in the first place? If it was they would have just rehashed ARAH gone with the classic look and in the process completely alienated any chances of kids picking this back up.

[Archrivals]

I see what you are saying. But I think that in order to appeal to a wider audience, i.e. those in countries foreign to North America, they are dropping the "Real American Hero" thing. I have mixed feelings about it, but either way I'll still watch the show.

As for the animation, I was hoping for something along the lines of CW, but I am glad that the characters' body types aren't like those on the CW.

I have been very pleased with the story myself.

I agree somewhat, the story was good, but the design/animation looked really below average (That was my vote) Now Young Justice was awesome. That’s how a cartoon is done, great story, design/fight scenes. I was not impressed with Transformers: Prime, I did like the voice work for Prime & Megatron though…

I’m recording the Renegades series via DVR, so maybe the show with grow on me, but it’s not the quality of The Avengers: EMH or Young Justice. Again that’s my opinion not fact…

[SNAKE EYES]

The series, is in terms of overall quality from the animation, to the designs, to the voice acting, to the script, to the pacing, are all as good or better than anything I've seen on TV in recent years, and that's including a lot of DC stuff.

It's a very solid work and I think it just needs to get some exposure to the intended audience to take off.

I don't think it's on par with DC animation the only DC animation you could possibly compare it with would be The Batman and I think that was better than Renegades.

The Batman was different than all other incarnations of Batman, but I enjoyed it right away Renegades... well I'm sort of on the fence. It's going to take awhile before I can decide if I like it or not.

I mean the first two episodes were OK, but I just hope it improves as the series progresses.

At least Snake Eyes was cool :)

[Echo7Solo]

I’m recording the Renagades series via DVR, so maybe the show with grow on me, but it’s not the quality of The Avengers: EMH or Young Justice. Again that’s my opinion not fact…

I agree that it isn't as good as Young Justice but it is to me better than The Avengers. I'm sorry but Avengers was the biggest dissapointment I've seen in a very long time. Not saying it's bad just could and should have been so much better. I expected much more from the mouse.

[cardensb]

I watched the first two episodes last night and was not impressed. Maybe it will develop and is an alternate origins storyline but so far I was like:
Why is Roadblock a mechanic?
Duke only a Sergeant?
Scarlett and Flint are LTs and Flint is intel now?
Why is Hawk such an old man?

I did like the interaction among the Joes, Snake-Eyes, Baroness, CC and Springfield's inclusion.
Overall the best part were the commercials on Hub for Cobra Industries and Cobra Technologies.

[SNAKE EYES]

I agree that it isn't as good as Young Justice but it is to me better than The Avengers. I'm sorry but Avengers was the biggest dissapointment I've seen in a very long time. Not saying it's bad just could and should have been so much better. I expected much more from the mouse.

But it doesn't take much to be better than Marvel animation :D

[Griff]

But it doesn't take much to be better than Marvel animation :D

you do have a valid point.

[Archrivals]

What didn’t you like about the AEMH? It’s pretty accurate to the comics, & the designs/story is decent enough for a kids show. My 7 year old loves AEMH & YJ. TFP & GIJR he thought were ok at best.

[SH0CKWAVE]

I watched the first two episodes last night and was not impressed. Maybe it will develop and is an alternate origins storyline but so far I was like:
Why is Roadblock a mechanic?
Duke only a Sergeant?
Scarlett and Flint are LTs and Flint is intel now?
Why is Hawk such an old man?

I did like the interaction among the Joes, Snake-Eyes, Baroness, CC and Springfield's inclusion.
Overall the best part were the commercials on Hub for Cobra Industries and Cobra Technologies.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4571/bobdylan9566102.jpg

[CTGLinks]

it was just okay so far.....I was not blown away nor captivated....but hey....it was still cool to see Joe on TV again.

[DrKain]

Well this is from pages back and I do not intend to read the 21 pages I missed, but

STYLIZED ART + GI JOE = EPIC FAIL!!!

Seriously, you cannot call this crap stylized just to make it sound cool. The animation is as cheap and lazy as the animation is in Transformers Prime. Only difference is that GI Joe had a few extra civilians around as to not make the world look like a giant ghost town.

The other problem is the Bio-Viper. Like the drones in Prime, one to two are enough to make you have to work hard to take them down, but bring in an army, and they are easy as pie to handle.

Oh yeah, and do we really need to watch Snake-Eyes pull off his ninja moves every 3 minutes? We already know he is cool, so they don't have to flush down our throats!!

However, Young Justice has stylized animation with the story telling to go with it, and just showed both Prime and Renegades how a premier episode should be done. Neither of the two series had the writting, animation, or characterization to keep the audience engaged like Young Justice did. All they had is hoping you hated the movies enough to find these series to be an improvement (which seems to have worked) to make you think it was well written.

[Trooper13]

I agree that it isn't as good as Young Justice but it is to me better than The Avengers. I'm sorry but Avengers was the biggest dissapointment I've seen in a very long time. Not saying it's bad just could and should have been so much better. I expected much more from the mouse.

I haven't seen Young Justice, but I will concede that Renegades isn't as good as The Batman. That series to me was the best thing animated tv has seen in a loooonnnngggg time. The art was stylized, but extremely well done, and the stories and characterizations were great.

While I like the new Avengers show the art really isn't very good. The stories are alright, but they could be alot better. Atleast they are much better then the crap Marvel put out in the late 90's early 00's.

I put Renegades somewhere in between The Batman and The Avengers EMH in terms of looks. It's not on the level of The Batman in terms of quality of the production, but WB has ALOT of money to throw around, alot more the Hasbro anyhow. DC animation, really is setting the bar lately. Avengers art, while colorful and flashy, I think is being aimed at the kids who used to like Superhero Squad but are now too old for it. It seems almost like "All Grown Up" for Marvel.

The storylines for The Batman I really loved, but so far I really love Renegades aswell. There were a few shaky spots in terms of dialogue and story in the first two eps, but all in all it was a really good showing, and if things get better from here, we're in for a real treat. The stories in EMH I'm torn on. They are really trying to condense alot of The Avengers history into a tighter pace, but still hit alot of the major classic plot points. I think they are doing a decent job most of the time, however sometimes the stories come off as very superficial, without any really character growth or interaction.

So for me, Renegades is a really well done show, with lots of potential. Since The Batman left the air I haven't had a show that I felt like I really loved. While, imo, this isn't quite on that level, for me, it's the best thing out there right now. When I see YJ that may change, but I really loved that comic back in the day. I think I'm going to unfairly judge the YJ show by the book, and there really is no way it can measure up.

[Dirtbag]

I'm liking what I seen so far. As for Transformers Prime it was great as well.

[Gyre-Viper]

Well this is from pages back and I do not intend to read the 21 pages I missed, but

STYLIZED ART + GI JOE = EPIC FAIL!!!

Seriously, you cannot call this crap stylized just to make it sound cool. The animation is as cheap and lazy as the animation is in Transformers Prime. Only difference is that GI Joe had a few extra civilians around as to not make the world look like a giant ghost town.

The other problem is the Bio-Viper. Like the drones in Prime, one to two are enough to make you have to work hard to take them down, but bring in an army, and they are easy as pie to handle.

Oh yeah, and do we really need to watch Snake-Eyes pull off his ninja moves every 3 minutes? We already know he is cool, so they don't have to flush down our throats!!

However, Young Justice has stylized animation with the story telling to go with it, and just showed both Prime and Renegades how a premier episode should be done. Neither of the two series had the writting, animation, or characterization to keep the audience engaged like Young Justice did. All they had is hoping you hated the movies enough to find these series to be an improvement (which seems to have worked) to make you think it was well written.

Young Justice looks like every other
super hero cartoon. the art may be better, the animation might be smoother... but that's just the progression of technology with a huge budget.

[kneroh]

I watched the first two episodes last night and was not impressed. Maybe it will develop and is an alternate origins storyline but so far I was like:
Why is Roadblock a mechanic?
Duke only a Sergeant?
Scarlett and Flint are LTs and Flint is intel now?
Why is Hawk such an old man?

I did like the interaction among the Joes, Snake-Eyes, Baroness, CC and Springfield's inclusion.
Overall the best part were the commercials on Hub for Cobra Industries and Cobra Technologies.

To say you don't like the changes is understandable to ask why seems a bit silly. It's a new take on GI Joe. It's not 1984 and GI Joe is not held in an untouchable box where no aspect of any character can be changed. Even Sunbow and Marvel had different character attributes and completely different continualities but I don't see anyone saying "why does Scarlett love Duke in the cartoon! Hasblow!"

Given the choice between rehashing a dying brand by doing the same thing that is not catching a wide audience vs a kick in the ass and giving everyone something new and unexpected was a good choice IMO. I like not knowing what's going to happen. I like being reintroduced to characters I love. If I want to revisit the past I can at anytime thanks to TBPs and DVDs. This however is something that has not been done and the new stories will keep me coming back.

Change can be good if executed correctly and think Hasbro is doing a kick ass job of walking that fine line between a reboot and keeping things familiar enough to hold the long time fans.

[SNAKE EYES]

I put Renegades somewhere in between The Batman and The Avengers EMH in terms of looks. It's not on the level of The Batman in terms of quality of the production.


^Agreed


So for me, Renegades is a really well done show, with lots of potential. Since The Batman left the air I haven't had a show that I felt like I really loved. While, imo, this isn't quite on that level, for me, it's the best thing out there right now. When I see YJ that may change.

I take it your not a fan of the Brave and the Bold which in my opinion is a great animated show. Last weeks episode was one of the best of the series.

[SNAKE EYES]

Young Justice looks like every other
super hero cartoon. the art may be better, the animation might be smoother... but that's just the progression of technology with a huge budget.

You can technically say that about any modern cartoon, but if the story is horrible then the show fails.

DC has found a way to make almost every series since the 90's good and that goes for story, animation, etc. etc.

Also I wouldn't say the animation was better than any other super hero cartoon it was just different. All of DC's animation has held up fine and is still just as great to watch now as it was when it aired.

[Trooper13]

I take it your not a fan of the Brave and the Bold which in my opinion is a great animated show. Last weeks episodes was one of the best of the series.

No, I'm not. I'm not a fan of the style of the art, or the storytelling. I'm not going to say it "SUXX" or "It's CRAAAPPP", because it's not. They are aiming for a specific feel, and their team is hitting all the points well.

Honestly, It reminds me of late 70's DC and I HATED 70's DC. It was very cheesy in terms of looks and content. It's definitely written for the kids who are coming up behind the generation that loved The Batman. Those kids are now watching the mini-DC movies that are more mature in nature. It's just not vibing with me. HOWEVER, I saw a commercial for the new video game, and I think it looks good. Kind of old school Super NES, style.

It's really just not my cup of tea.

[SH0CKWAVE]

Seriously, you cannot call this crap stylized just to make it sound cool. The animation is as cheap and lazy as the animation is in Transformers Prime. Only difference is that GI Joe had a few extra civilians around as to not make the world look like a giant ghost town.

The other problem is the Bio-Viper. Like the drones in Prime, one to two are enough to make you have to work hard to take them down, but bring in an army, and they are easy as pie to handle.

However, Young Justice has stylized animation with the story telling to go with it, and just showed both Prime and Renegades how a premier episode should be done. Neither of the two series had the writting, animation, or characterization to keep the audience engaged like Young Justice did. All they had is hoping you hated the movies enough to find these series to be an improvement (which seems to have worked) to make you think it was well written.

re: Bio Viper. why dont they call in the Army? simple. these guys are Renegades. let's study the term closely:

Renegade is a synonym for turncoat. Another definition from the Middle Ages is a fallen Christian or a knight without allegiance, from the Spanish renegado, from the medieval Latin word renegatus, the perfect participle of renego, meaning "deny".

let's get used to seeing our Joes getting into trouble. they're a pack apart. a wild bunch. our own little Peckinpah's.

your thoughts are similar to how mine were when i had seen but a few trailers and terribly executed teaser reels. the only flaw in this production so far, IMO.

once i was able to experience Renegades in its entirety, cover to cover - i had to admit i was horribly wrong in my preconceived assessment. i dislike the elitist and an elitist state of mind. so sometimes i have to check my head when i am being exactly what i call douche. reconnect a few things... and its not hard to admit that Renegades is actually pretty damn good, compared to whats out there, on similar budgets. the kids at Joe Renegades really stretched their pennies and painted a beautiful picture with this one.

i thought story lines were going to suck. i was very vocal about that. again, i was wrong. these arcs are woven with precision and a great deal of care. the characters are fleshed out and we "get it" quickly. this is vital during the infant stages of storyline. if u can't catch em up quick, you've lost their interest.

in this case, they drained it like Kobe.

[SNAKE EYES]

No, I'm not. I'm not a fan of the style of the art, or the storytelling. I'm not going to say it "SUXX" or "It's CRAAAPPP", because it's not. They are aiming for a specific feel, and their team is hitting all the points well.

Honestly, It reminds me of late 70's DC and I HATED 70's DC. It was very cheesy in terms of looks and content. It's definitely written for the kids who are coming up behind the generation that loved The Batman. Those kids are now watching the mini-DC movies that are more mature in nature. It's just not vibing with me. HOWEVER, I saw a commercial for the new video game, and I think it looks good. Kind of old school Super NES, style.

It's really just not my cup of tea.


The last episode "Knights of Tomorrow" was great and not all of the episodes have the 70's vibe, but most do.

In my opinion that is a good thing it gives older fans that grew up on the 70's comics a worthwhile Batman/DC cartoon to enjoy and yet it's still able to be enjoyed and appreciated by kids and fans from different comic eras alike.

Edit:

Here's a clip from that episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwaXgsv5knw

This episode is worth trying to find and watch... especially if your a Batman fan.

More clips: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=knights+of+tomorrow&aq=f

[General Hawk]

Anyone looking for video, I uploaded a bunch to my YouTube Channel last night. Not the entire episodes, but about 10 different clips from the first two episodes last night:

YouTube - JBellHawk's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/JBellHawk?feature=mhum)

Justin

[speedocub]

To say you don't like the changes is understandable to ask why seems a bit silly. It's a new take on GI Joe. It's not 1984 and GI Joe is not held in an untouchable box where no aspect of any character can be changed. Even Sunbow and Marvel had different character attributes and completely different continualities but I don't see anyone saying "why does Scarlett love Duke in the cartoon! Hasblow!"

Given the choice between rehashing a dying brand by doing the same thing that is not catching a wide audience vs a kick in the ass and giving everyone something new and unexpected was a good choice IMO. I like not knowing what's going to happen. I like being reintroduced to characters I love. If I want to revisit the past I can at anytime thanks to TBPs and DVDs. This however is something that has not been done and the new stories will keep me coming back.

Change can be good if executed correctly and think Hasbro is doing a kick ass job of walking that fine line between a reboot and keeping things familiar enough to hold the long time fans.


Well put.

[Trooper13]

The last episode "Knights of Tomorrow" was great and not all of the episodes have the 70's vibe, but most do.

In my opinion that is a good thing it gives older fans that grew up on the 70's comics a worthwhile Batman/DC cartoon to enjoy and yet it's still able to be enjoyed and appreciated by kids and fans from different comic eras alike.

Yeah, as a kid I really always enjoyed the darker batman stories better. Alot of the Detective stuff. That was one thing I really loved about The Batman, that it focused less on his "superhero-ey-ness" and more on the fact that he fights crime. He actually has to do the legwork, and research, and the science. BatB seems to concentrate more on the almost "superfriends" side of Batman's world. Both are valid ways of looking at the character, this time I'm just sitting it out. No big, there's plenty of Bat out there for everyone.

Luckily for DC fans, WB has the cash to cater to all different types of fans. The more adult oriented DC animated stuff they are pumping out is phenomenal in terms of both art and story. It's really staggering, but for some reason they don't seem to be getting mainstream press. Why, I don't know.

With Joe we don't have that. Hasbro doesn't have the cash to put out Renegades, quality live action features, and every few months more "Resolute-ish" style mini-movies. I wish they did, really. I'd love to see a Batman Begins, or Dark Knight style take on a GI Joe feature. It'd be incredible.

I'd love to see strings of more mature, high quality, Joe animated movies that focused on certain characters and missions, so that we could get real exposition and character development, two things that Resulote failed EPICALLY with. Honestly, Joe has so many great characters there's really no end to the stories you could tell, if you made them small. Resolute looked slick, and had plenty of fast paced adult style action, but honestly, in terms of story, it was pretty damn sad.

The way I'm looking at it, atleast they've tried to give us a show that they can afford to make on the longterm scale, and that they've managed to make kid friendly, but still containing complex enough stories that it's engaging to adults.

[Caravankidd]

I liked the cartoon but I felt like there are some areas that need to be improved upon in later episodes.

Even with the new take on characters it was nice that they were willing to give the show a military feel. Even with the advanced weapons they put in the military look to the characters instead of the non-military styles that have been tried with other attempts at updating GI Joe.

I guess my only really big complaint is that I just don't like the whole Bio-Viper thing. It was cool with Joes fighting blue shirts, Joes attempting to bring in Mindbender, but the Bio-Vipers just didn't seem very cool as a concept.

[CVdelgado]

Anyone looking for video, I uploaded a bunch to my YouTube Channel last night. Not the entire episodes, but about 10 different clips from the first two episodes last night:

YouTube - JBellHawk's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/JBellHawk?feature=mhum)

Justin

thanks for these. this will have to do until i can see the whole thing. im ready to buy the dvd's. lol.

[Snake Shadow09]

YouTube - G.I joe renegades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dgtuS1fU70)

not the best quality but not bad

i want to see the full episode not just 2.32 misn of it.

[CVdelgado]

who is that voicing cobra commander?!? it sounds like charlie adler again.

edit ~ i just checked it is him. that is so sweet! that is a great cc voice. you cant top latta, but this guy is worthy of carrying on the legacy.

[Dirtbag]

Anybody that calls Transformers Prime or Gijoe Renegades cheap animation obviously have no idea how difficult and expensive animation is to produce specially CG animation like Transformers Prime.

I took an animation class in college and is an incredibly tedious process. Even the most simple flash animation. It is an art form that I'm glad I can appreciate and see beyond my fanboys eyes.

[SNAKE EYES]

With Joe we don't have that. Hasbro doesn't have the cash to put out Renegades, quality live action features, and every few months more "Resolute-ish" style mini-movies. I wish they did, really. I'd love to see a Batman Begins, or Dark Knight style take on a GI Joe feature. It'd be incredible.

I'd love to see strings of more mature, high quality, Joe animated movies that focused on certain characters and missions, so that we could get real exposition and character development, two things that Resolute failed EPICALLY with. Honestly, Joe has so many great characters there's really no end to the stories you could tell, if you made them small.


I would love to see this as well... that would be great for the fans and G.I. Joe as a whole.

Hopefully if Renegades does well it will expand the Joe animated universe and permit them to do things like DC does with it's characters.

[kennywr22]

Ok, Im finally able to write my thoughts about the show. I've been a huge supporter of renegades from the initial con talks and photo's. So I'm very happy to say that I loved the show! The characters are all done really well. I really love baroness,se,Flint,scarlet.the interactions between scarlet and se and Flint and lj. I really have no complaints so far. Although I too hope for cobra soliders more often than Bio vipers, which I'm sure we will see. I do like the bio viper though.Can't wait for bludd next week.awesome job Hasbro.

[D00MTR0N]

the cc clip blew me away,i think the whole hologram/false image thing is brilliant!is there any clips of destro?

[kennywr22]

No destro yet. He should be badass though.

[D00MTR0N]

No destro yet. He should be badass though.
i know i cant wait

[kneroh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/otto.jpg

[Trooper13]

No destro yet. He should be badass though.

I agree. I LOVE the fact that Destro and Baroness don't know each other yet. While we may not see their relationship develop at all, the way she lit up like a Xmas tree when she saw that missile was classic, and kind of cute in a sociopathic kind of way. lol

For me, this show really delivered. I had high hopes going in that they'd really lay the groundwork for some cool multi-layered storytelling and they hit it out of the park. This is going to be alot of fun.

[Troynos]

It's starting to show up on Youtube. First 1/2 of Episode 1 is up. Now just have to be patient and wait for the rest.

[Trooper13]

It's starting to show up on Youtube. First 1/2 of Episode 1 is up. Now just have to be patient and wait for the rest.

It sucks you have to watch it that way, Troy. I know you're a big Flint fan, and I think you're really going to like what they did with him this time.

[ChaplainAsst]

Given the choice between rehashing a dying brand by doing the same thing that is not catching a wide audience vs a kick in the ass and giving everyone something new and unexpected was a good choice IMO. I like not knowing what's going to happen. I like being reintroduced to characters I love. If I want to revisit the past I can at anytime thanks to TBPs and DVDs. This however is something that has not been done and the new stories will keep me coming back.


Didn't Hasbro say that they saw this as something of a prequel to Sunbow's ARAH once? Obviously something changed between that quote and what we saw last night.

[kneroh]

Didn't Hasbro say that they saw this as something of a prequel to Sunbow's ARAH once? Obviously something changed between that quote and what we saw last night.

Not that I can recall. The closet thing I've heard it called was "the beginning of GI Joe, how the team was formed, etc". It's not unlikely that people would assume it was the beginning of the GI Joe they knew and loved. Most times though Hasbro has always said this was going to be a brand new storyline and continuality.

[WeaponXCustoms]

It's starting to show up on Youtube. First 1/2 of Episode 1 is up. Now just have to be patient and wait for the rest.

link??

[Trooper13]

Didn't Hasbro say that they saw this as something of a prequel to Sunbow's ARAH once? Obviously something changed between that quote and what we saw last night.

I think that quote was misinterpretted, and to be fair, I don't think they put the idea across well. I think, what they meant, was that we're going to see how this Joe team got started, but in a way, how any Joe team gets started.

So they wanted us to imagine what it would be like to go all the way back to our childhood, remember THAT team, and think..."how did they get there?". When we met Joe as kids, they were already a unit, going strong. What did those characters go through, to BECOME the team we knew? How did they get thier start? Who was actually there at the beginning? How did they find out about Cobra, Destro, and Extensive Enterprises?

With Renegades, we actually get to see the story retold in a different way, with different characters being part of the "OG" line up, but actually from the real beginning. I hope that made sense.

[SECP]

Nice. I don't love the designs, but the animation flowed well enough. I also like the way the characters and the story are shaping up so far.

[junglecat79]

here is my thoughts on the joe toon... first the bad then the good.
1) the animation is very choppy at times and the background looks like a painting instead of a moving background.

2) the nicknames seemed forced as so did the plot. the A team plot bugs me alot i loved the A team but we are talking about g i joe.

3) Hawk looks real bad so does the cobra symbol(yes it could change) rip cord and tunnel rat booth are so annoying. Duke must be the dumbest joe and he is a leader wow. the over all look of the team is skaters and not a military unit.

4) the bio vipers is the worst part of it and i hope they dont come back with them. mindbender seems like a crazy spoiled brat.

5) ppl say resolute was to hard core for kids but we saw sheep with out skin and bones showing still alive. the gun look like stun guns not even good laser rifles. they said the deths where to much and yet renegades did the same thing. the only dif is there is no blood.

6) the commander looks like Overlord why cant they stick with his real look and stop tiring to fix what isnt broken. how they use the knowing line for cobra. it seems like they didnt learn from roc.

the good
1) baroness looks good the cobra and joe rides look real good and i want toys of them.

2) rip cord is dead so im glad about that lol.

3) flint looks good and im not sure on the duke flint thing but it might play out nicely(i wont know cuse i wont watch it agin.)

4) it might get kids back in to the line but at this point im very unsure if they will or not.

thats about it for this fan on the renegades. as i will not watch the show agin. ill stick wit my dvd joes.

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

[Mainframe]

what does "that that good" mean?

I thought he stuttered.

[kneroh]

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

Thanks for not attacking anyone. lolz...

[xSwamiJayx]

thats about it for this fan on the renegades. as i will not watch the show agin. ill stick wit my dvd joes.

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

Yea, teh IGs is a bunch off buttholes dat r mean to people I dont like them Lolz

I dont want to talk 2 them agin becuz they is sooo mean

[speedocub]

Wow...just wow.

[atomsmasher]

I liked the show. The first thing we had to remember is what they stated in the commercial teasers "Not your real American Hero" This is there chance to get people into the line again that's not already in. It doesn't matter what they play on hisstank.
Now I was disappointed in the story. I mean there was no weather dominator, no mass device, no fluffy creatures to turn into giant bulls and enslave the Joes to make the weapons. I mean come on! This is GI Joe right? Alright without joking around the show was good. The story made sense. The animation was fine for the children and I'm not sure any of them well think it's lousy. I'm alright with much of the outfits save for the pants. I dislike the pants the most. Also the fact that Flint is a giant @sshat. What I really loved is the vehicles that were showed. Cobra Troop Van, Missile Launcher, GI Joe jeep. Baroness was cool. Cobra Commander is interesting though I don't like that half face thing. If someone is showing half the ugly face why not show the whole thing. I like the way Flint's team looks and want fgures of them as the are acceptable for new green shirts to me. I give it a 4 out of 5 and yes I don't think the Bio Vipers shall be common theme Fluffies anyone?

[Trooper13]

Back on the subject of vehicles as toys. While I've been going on about the big 5ton Cobra Troop Transport, and I know alot of people here are digging the more futuristic vehicles that housed the missiles. However, when I watched it again this morning, I really LOVED the look of the Cobra Armored Car looking tactical vehicle that they were making the evacuation announcements with.

[speedocub]

Back on the subject of vehicles as toys. While I've been going on about the big 5ton Cobra Troop Transport, and I know alot of people here are digging the more futuristic vehicles that housed the missiles. However, when I watched it again this morning, I really LOVED the look of the Cobra Armored Car looking tactical vehicle that they were making the evacuation announcements with.


All the vehicle designs were cool, but I somehow see little playability with an evacuation vehicle toy. We'll be lucky to see something on the scale of the missile transport, very cool it was...I just really hope to see them.

Those true heros at TRU and the ones currently at Biglots have awesome design...and they seem to make them with no regard for the fact they have no media tie in...so give us COBRA vehicles and Chysler GI 300s!!!

[kneroh]

Back on the subject of vehicles as toys. While I've been going on about the big 5ton Cobra Troop Transport, and I know alot of people here are digging the more futuristic vehicles that housed the missiles. However, when I watched it again this morning, I really LOVED the look of the Cobra Armored Car looking tactical vehicle that they were making the evacuation announcements with.

I've been waiting my entire life for a bad ass Cobra troop transport helicopter. Hopefully with the media tie in Hasbro can deliver something big and beautiful to make my dreams come true!

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

Well...
Glad I sat most of this one out, but on to what I think..

I actually responded inversly to what I thought was going to happen. I thought that I was going to go NUTS over the new JOE toon and dislike the Prime toon.

Complete opposite, I ended up just LOVING the Prime toon. The TFs are a little too cartoony for me, but its really a cool story so far. I like starscream, and megatron, and..jeesh..I love it all..

As far as the Joe toon. Ack!... I just dont know where to start. Sure its JOE in name only, but this just does not have a "winner" feel to it. I STILL have resolute DVR'd and watch that all the time. This, I highly doubt I will ever watch another episode again.

Animation is just nausiating for me. The "NEVER SAY DIE" attitude of characters I know, just does NOT transmit well to these characters that are drawn to look like 12 year olds.

I honestly can say, there is not a single one of these characters that are just AWESOME. not a one. SE...sorry, but after a million figures, swords, masks, costumes,...Im just about burnt out on SE. nothing new, and nothing "marvel" enough to make me want to watch because of him alone.

General hawk. Lee majors voice is great. WHO IN THE F%$# did the character design on him?!? YOUR FIRED

the guns. Stupid looking. sorry..just dumb. the tech dont match up to me. They have lasers now but...aaaa...still everything else is reg tech? I hate that...dumb. Shoulda been bullets..

My 2 1/2 year old is on a HUGE Transformers and JOE kick since hub played vintage toons. He watches the TF G1, and ARAH toons, over and over.
Today, I sat him down to watch both shows with me. He was GLUED to the screen for the Transformers Prime shows. a full 45 min or so (skippin commercials) and he couldent look away, he knew most of the TFs names, and just loved it.
Then I put on Renegades, and he wouldent watch 5 minutes of it. I kept bugging him, "C'mon, Watch GIJOE with me!!" he would not, and asked for more TF. I had to be the bad dad, and say "you can watch TF after im done watching joe" my wife walked in, and asked "what the hell is this?? Cailliu with guns grown up??" and she laughed......I was embarrassed that I was caught watching, what I think is a pretty dumb looking show..

I just dont think this is a winner. Ill watch...but I would rather watch ARAH repeats, and I think my son thinks the same. Ill try another day..

[Zefram]

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

Yea, teh IGs is a bunch off buttholes dat r mean to people I dont like them Lolz

I dont want to talk 2 them agin becuz they is sooo mean

Why would anyone say that we're mean? :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/fartsj.jpg

[batkid305]

In this new reality and forgetting about the past...Id say Renegades is a WIN. They refreshed them all. Made it simple yet, the connections between characters and how they play in a role in the show is briliant. They made it more modern day suspense drama cop show, mixed in with a bit of Psi-Fi Monster chasing sillyness that plays well in an shootem, blow em up action adventure cartoon.

I love Duke and Scarlets beef...the fact that they all call each other by their new code names, although hesitant at first. They just been through a huge battle, the battlefield makes families of strangers. Its a bond that is forged in an instant...and they highlighted that in just 2 episodes. Bravo Hasbro, for not making yet another veiled attempt to make toys. This show is going to do well and will continue for a few seasons more. Kids, who watch it now, in 20 years will have kids of their own and would want them to know about their GI JOE...and their grandfathers.

[Trooper13]

All the vehicle designs were cool, but I somehow see little playability with an evacuation vehicle toy. We'll be lucky to see something on the scale of the missile transport, very cool it was...I just really hope to see them.

Those true heros at TRU and the ones currently at Biglots have awesome design...and they seem to make them with no regard for the fact they have no media tie in...so give us COBRA vehicles and Chysler GI 300s!!!

I guess, but I think the bullhorns were just for that specific task. They reminded me of SWAT vans, or Prisoner Transport. Basically and armored car with benches in the back. The playability of that would be alot higher I'd think then a spaceship looking truck that seats one, maybe two guys in the front and can open up to launch one missile. Once that missile is gone, that truck is useless as it has no flexibility in it's design. Maybe that's just me, but I see an armored car that can pull up and out jumps your squad of blueshirts to attack and apprehend your Joes being alot more fun then a one trick pony. Especially as if they win, they can stuff them in the back, only to have the joes get broken out on the way back to the base. A big missile truck is just another stupid gimmick toy, the same springloaded crap that people have been bitching about since RoC.

[SNAKE EYES]

What I didn't like 3) cobra symbol(yes it could change)

You didn't notice the original Cobra logo at the beginning :D

From what I understand the logo you saw on the guards is the public Cobra corporation logo... I'm sure once the evil Cobra organization reveals itself you will see the old school logo on everything that cobra wears and uses.

[xSwamiJayx]

Why would anyone say that we're mean? :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/fartsj.jpg

Oh man, ur rood!!?!!!1!

[Shin Densetsu]

I've been waiting my entire life for a bad ass Cobra troop transport helicopter. Hopefully with the media tie in Hasbro can deliver something big and beautiful to make my dreams come true!

If Hasbro won't, another company will give us an awesome troop transport helicopter. I would hope we are getting a kick ass MARS gunship but I have my doubts on how big it will be. The ROC Dragonhawk was not all that big.

[kneroh]

If Hasbro won't, another company will give us an awesome troop transport helicopter. I would hope we are getting a kick ass MARS gunship but I have my doubts on how big it will be. The ROC Dragonhawk was not all that big.

Oh I know! And it will be awesome!
SK Omega The Owl - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/compatible-military-toys-20/sk-omega-the-owl-9980/)

[xSwamiJayx]

I would love some of those huge troop transport vehicles. I don't get in to vehicles, but the designs have been pretty dope so far.

I'm almost torn about the figures. A slick, animated style SE would be so fricking cool.

As long as they look good, though, I'm in.

[Echo7Solo]

You didn't notice the original Cobra logo at the beginning :D

From what I understand the logo you saw on the guards is the public Cobra corporation logo... I'm sure once the evil Cobra organization reveals itself you will see the old school logo on everything that cobra wears and uses.

yeah well once you realize that this is a starting point and that we are not jumping in mid way through then yeah this is an easy conclusion.

[Shin Densetsu]

I would love some of those huge troop transport vehicles. I don't get in to vehicles, but the designs have been pretty dope so far.

I'm almost torn about the figures. A slick, animated style SE would be so fricking cool.

As long as they look good, though, I'm in.

Honestly, I think a realistic POC styled Snake Eyes with the Renegades costume might be better.

[xSwamiJayx]

Honestly, I think a realistic POC styled Snake Eyes with the Renegades costume might be better.

I want both. I don't have any of the problems with the animation that otherbpeople do. I think that it looks fantastic. And seeing a sleek, super articulated SE in plastic form that looks exactly the cartoon would be amazing.

I seriously just can't wait for the toys, whatever they are. Hell, I'm antsy for the next cartoon already!

[Shin Densetsu]

I want both. I don't have any of the problems with the animation that otherbpeople do. I think that it looks fantastic. And seeing a sleek, super articulated SE in plastic form that looks exactly the cartoon would be amazing.

I seriously just can't wait for the toys, whatever they are. Hell, I'm antsy for the next cartoon already!

I've been hearing different things, but basically, if a styalized Renegades Snake Eyes figure had tools cut for it, it's going to be released eventually and inevitably, but it might not be right away. Now whether the tools got cut is a question that might not be answered anytime soon, I'm thinking JoeCon, but who knows.

[Cobra Terrorist]

the over all look of the team is skaters and not a military unit.


Heh, I thought that was funny...

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

I knew what was gonna happen as soon as I saw this...

I was here one day and knew better than THIS!

[Nirvana]

Oh I know! And it will be awesome!
SK Omega The Owl - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/compatible-military-toys-20/sk-omega-the-owl-9980/)

Don't tease, you know we need a real hook-up for one of those.

[xSwamiJayx]

if a styalized Renegades Snake Eyes figure had tools cut for it, it's going to be released eventually and inevitably.

I love it when you talk dirty.

[Cdt Weasel]

here is my thoughts on the joe toon... first the bad then the good.
1) the animation is very choppy at times and the background looks like a painting instead of a moving background.

2) the nicknames seemed forced as so did the plot. the A team plot bugs me alot i loved the A team but we are talking about g i joe.

3) Hawk looks real bad so does the cobra symbol(yes it could change) rip cord and tunnel rat booth are so annoying. Duke must be the dumbest joe and he is a leader wow. the over all look of the team is skaters and not a military unit.

4) the bio vipers is the worst part of it and i hope they dont come back with them. mindbender seems like a crazy spoiled brat.

5) ppl say resolute was to hard core for kids but we saw sheep with out skin and bones showing still alive. the gun look like stun guns not even good laser rifles. they said the deths where to much and yet renegades did the same thing. the only dif is there is no blood.

6) the commander looks like Overlord why cant they stick with his real look and stop tiring to fix what isnt broken. how they use the knowing line for cobra. it seems like they didnt learn from roc.

the good
1) baroness looks good the cobra and joe rides look real good and i want toys of them.

2) rip cord is dead so im glad about that lol.

3) flint looks good and im not sure on the duke flint thing but it might play out nicely(i wont know cuse i wont watch it agin.)

4) it might get kids back in to the line but at this point im very unsure if they will or not.

thats about it for this fan on the renegades. as i will not watch the show agin. ill stick wit my dvd joes.

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion


lets try not to take shots at people

[TYPHUS]

that would certainly be an intertesting tranformer....i wonder how hasbro would market THAT one? :D

Im guessing the tagline would be...... transformers......more than meets the (brown)eye?????

[kneroh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/crystal_skull.jpg

or...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/reboot.jpg

[Shogi]

So I finally saw the first episode.....It's not Resolute, but I find myself staying attentive and watching the whole episode without getting bored so it's not bad either, just different.

I'll probably try to watch the rest of the season and depending on how the story develops, I may even get it on DVD.

I really only have one complaint for the whole thing and that's the whole "nickname" bit. I think it could be better if it was drawn out a bit, not like "Hey I just met you, I'm going to make a nickname for you" But then again, this is a kids cartoon and maybe they wouldn't like to wait for some build up to a nickname :)

[Iron Will]

Young Justice looks like every other
super hero cartoon. the art may be better, the animation might be smoother... but that's just the progression of technology with a huge budget.

Although I don't want to stray too far off topic, Young Justice is well beyond the art of most other super hero cartoons. The art being better is the definition of an animated show (story aside.) Young Justice is more comic formatted than any other hero show on. It blows away anything Marvel has ever done and steps away from DC's all too common Batman/JLU style which although good, has become an overused staple. Art isn't affected by tech over time as Max Fleischer's Superman is still as strong as most animateds out now and that was done with a $50,000 budget. Sorry don't mean to get too heated on this, just a huge DC fan lol!

[TYPHUS]

Why would anyone say that we're mean? :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Reactions/fartsj.jpg

Because nothing is sacred to us,and everything is an opportunity to wind someone up..........god i love being an IG......it feels great........

[The Batman]

My god, I sat down last night and watched both GI JOE and Transformers Prime. I was so disgusted in both, I just got up, turned off the tv and went to bed. The story and animation on GI JOE is pathetic and Transformers Prime is about god-awful and they should be ashamed for making the TF's look that damn horrible. Thank goodness I went out and bought something else to watch and play on Black Friday because this is going to be a long ass HUB disgrace for Joes and TF's. Gag me with ruffage!!

[Shin Densetsu]

Don't tease, you know we need a real hook-up for one of those.

?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/crystal_skull.jpg

or...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/reboot.jpg

Casino Royale rocked man. Now Quantum of Suc-....

Although I don't want to stray too far off topic, Young Justice is well beyond the art of most other super hero cartoons. The art being better is the definition of an animated show (story aside.) Young Justice is more comic formatted than any other hero show on. It blows away anything Marvel has ever done and steps away from DC's all too common Batman/JLU style which although good, has become an overused staple. Art isn't affected by tech over time as Max Fleischer's Superman is still as strong as most animateds out now and that was done with a $50,000 budget. Sorry don't mean to get too heated on this, just a huge DC fan lol!

Young Justice looks great. Also, DC's cartoons have been better than Marvel's for the past 10 or so years. Did hear that Wolvie and the X-Men is great though.

[fhersanke]

correct me if im wrong , but weeks ago on the hasbro site i see a pic of cobra comander from renegades game , and he looks different, looks like the new commander from the comics , maybe is a battle helmet he use over the half mask he wear on renegades episode 2

what do u think

[Shin Densetsu]

correct me if im wrong , but weeks ago on the hasbro site i see a pic of cobra comander from renegades game and he looks diferent that the one from the episode 2 , maybe is a battle helmet he use over the mask he wear

what do u think

That's what I read too, but I haven't looked at the game much.

[Zefram]

correct me if im wrong , but weeks ago on the hasbro site i see a pic of cobra comander from renegades game and he looks diferent that the one from the episode 2 , maybe is a battle helmet he use over the mask he wear

what do u think

I know what you're talking about. Maybe it's like Prime's face shield and it only comes up when he's about to throw down.

[Echo7Solo]

Young Justice looks great. Also, DC's cartoons have been better than Marvel's for the past 10 or so years. Did hear that Wolvie and the X-Men is great though.

Young Justice was real good. Picking it apart I can only think of three things I would have done in another way. All three were small personal choice things that do not change a single thing about the show itself.

[Barefoot Jedi]

Well, the full-on steel mask is COBRA Commanders battle mask so it makes sense we may not see it 'til he is in an actual physical confrontation.

[WeaponXCustoms]

Finally got to see it, I'll be continuing to watch it, and hopefully it does well.
Things Im really happy about:
Roadblock is not a cook. I served in the military and it always irked me regarding the stereotype that Blacks are only good for cooking. Roadblock doesnt need to be Cuba Gooding Junior's character from PearlHarbour its 2010 not 1944. Making him a mechanic makes him potentially vital to the team as far as future plots are concerned.
I love the real world styling to the Flint's greenshirts and Cobra blue shirts.
Duke is not starting out as an officer.
Gen. Hawk finally looks like a general, doesnt look that old either, he doesnt limp and is broad shouldered, just because he has an eye patch and a cane does not mean he is feeble. I hope they continue to develop his character.
Flint comes off more like an ass than I think they intended. He's a good guy and a straight shooter as always but now theres this extra dimension to his relationship now with Duke and thats fine with me! In Dukes words "rank doesnt matter here" and I can see that playing out if Flint and him end up on the same team. It reminds me of Lt. Falcon's relationship with Duke.
I love how Cobra is merged itself into everyday life. Its going to be that much harder for the government and the Joes to uproot it and cast them out.
Vehicle designs are kick ass, cant wait to see what Hasbro produces for us!

[fhersanke]

this is the pic i see of cobra commander helmet

maybe the mask of the commander on the episode 2 is the version of the cobra commander hood

[OSOK]

seems things are going well in here

[speedocub]

this is the pic i see of cobra commander helmet

maybe the mask of the commander on the episode 2 is the version of the cobra commander hood


I can help...that silver plate on CC is only from that angle, the silver plate extends over his left side of his face and crosses over his nose to his right side of the face...the Right Eye is exposed. So from this perspective he would look like the CC we are hoping for.

[fhersanke]

I can help...that silver plate on CC is only from that angle, the silver plate extends over his left side of his face and crosses over his nose to his right side of the face...the Right Eye is exposed. So from this perspective he would look like the CC we are hoping for.

yeah i think the same but if you see on the cartoon looks like a fabric and on the pic the line that separate the helmet are from two sides the same as the back part of helmet , besides of, the side devices , on the cartoon bends like a mask

sorry im trying to splain my point and sorry for my english i try to make my best

[USAgent]

I wouldn't stay home to watch it, but with the dvr I can catch out when I have time. I just don't get why code names aren't cool to the kids anymore. Nick names are where its at I guess. Not MY joe by any means, but it is what it is.

[Shin Densetsu]

this is the pic i see of cobra commander helmet

maybe the mask of the commander on the episode 2 is the version of the cobra commander hood

Ah I see, reminds me of the IDW Cobra Commander.

[kennywr22]

I'm thinking we will see a full metal mask for sure. Maybe Clem or another designer on the show can give us some insight.

[Life4Dreadnok]

Saw the first hour. It was bland to me. I don't like the animation, everyone looks the same basically. Scarlett is homely. The dialogue was okay but I don't like their back stories. Overall it was un remarkable in every way. I really expected a bigger splash.

[fhersanke]

this is another pic with the differences i was talking about , maybe is a matter of perspective


sorry for the quality of pics

[Barefoot Jedi]

I sort of pity those of you who didn't like it. I mean, I respect your opinions. Not everyone will like different interpretations of the Joe mythology, I accept that. I suppose y'all pity those of us who did like it.

I feel the opposite of how I felt after seeing Rise of COBRA. I confess I am sentimentally attached to the Joe property. I don't think I just like anything that has the GIJOE label slapped on it (ROC and SpyTroops/Velour versus Denim comes to mind), but this incarnation of GIJOE I'm quite happy with so far.

[WeaponXCustoms]

...

[gijoeben1]

Just watched it.

eh, not bad. Looking forward to how the figures based on the new toon look.

[Monkeywrench]

I missed it all together. Will the show air every friday or everyday and at what time?

I think it's every friday

[Barefoot Jedi]

this is another pic with the differences i was talking about , maybe is a matter of perspective


sorry for the quality of pics

I am guessing his mask is a liquid metal-type thing that slides over his face in a fight and the half-mask replaces the hood for the casual Commander.

[fhersanke]

i really like the show first time i really dont care about snake eyes , i really like the commander

[kennywr22]

Every Friday at 5pm.next week we see bludd!!!! Yes.

[kennywr22]

I agree that I bet the helmet slides over to cover his whole head when needed.

[Monkeywrench]

I agree with most of what MW hates about the show, but I'm still not much of a fan of what he did like about it: I did not like Mind Bender; the action was kinda boring (I do agree that kids show should be more violent, as noted below); I felt that they should have used "Arb Co." instead of "Cobra" as a company name; Jason Marsden makes Duke sound too whelpish; and I like my Snake Eyes to be a Commando and a Ninja - he over-played that "ninja power ranger" card in the 90's! Most of all, I hate how this was dumb-down for kids. There are already TONS of kid-friendly shows on TV, and its getting old! I remember Johnny Quest was violent, and the original G.I.Joe cartoon was full of flirtation and sexual innuendos - the old Buggs Bunny cartoons had both in spades and then some! I'm not asking for much! All I what to see are more cartoons that are slightly more mature!

If Destro's bio - from the Hub web-site - is any indication, he his going to be The Commander's man-bitch! I really loath this scenario!

I find the show to be so-so, as it hard to like this program with such a glorious c**k-tease like Resolute.

Hey Mal! A rare post for you. Good to see you. I agree with alot of your points. It's still early but theres a lot that I like about the show right now.

[Clem]

I'm thinking we will see a full metal mask for sure. Maybe Clem or another designer on the show can give us some insight.

There is indeed 2 masks, more precisely the one you've seen on the show and the helmet shown in the image from the game that everyone's been posting.

It was just 2 episodes guys, there's a LOT more stuff to come :)

[Gatchaman]

I think those of us with kids need to tell them to spread the word in school and to their friends about Renegades (if they’re old enough to do so and if they actually like the Joe cartoon). No better advertisement then word of mouth. If the kids don’t get into this toon it will be the end of it and possibly the end of GI Joe.

[kennywr22]

Thanks Clem. The show is absolutely awesome. Can't wait for the next episode.wonderful designs and great writing. Wonderful job.

[Barefoot Jedi]

If Destro's bio - from the Hub web-site - is any indication, he his going to be The Commander's man-bitch! I really loath this scenario!

I'll choose to interpret that plot element this way: Destro will be looking for a way to break free of the Commander's control and when he does, there will be a reckoning.

This happened in Marvel as well toward the end of the run, as I recall, with the transmitter Mindbender implanted in Destro's tooth.

[MrHateAol]

Given that I dislike origin stories and usually find them tedious, I rather liked this. Solid character work, unique character designs, good script, and rather impressive action sequences.

The Hub is a network created by Margaret Loesch who was hired by Hasbro to develop a family network to build off their extensive lines. She execute-produced both RAH and Transformers G1, and she has put a great deal of care into these two properties.

The earliest post about one of you guys not being a sheep sounds rather interesting to me. What exactly would have you liked to have seen in a new Joe series? I have yet to find an area where it fails to meet the extensive history of the series and match it, and it has not strayed conceptually from any element that was ever in play, yet it has a fresh feel and vibe to it. Even the "misunderstood heroes" thing is not really so tired here.

I've been eating up the RAH series and after months of waiting I found the new series to be a worthwhile addition to the catalog.

Or in other words... "It doesn't suck".

[1982]

Roadblock = B.A.
Tunnelrat = Murdock
Duke = Hannibal
Snake-eyes = ? Face
If you have a problem, and you can find them, you may be able to call in the A-TEAM = Joe Team.

[Lody]

Simple and to the point:

I liked it

[Griff]

Im guessing the tagline would be...... transformers......more than meets the (brown)eye?????

Bazinga! :D

[Saboteur]

I thought it was very good. Looking forward to more!

[Stygian]

I absolutely loved the first two episodes! As many of you I feared that this incarnation would fall too far from the tree (like the movie), but it completely rocks!

I love the character designs, the animation is top-notch and even though some of the haters amongst the crowd may disagree with these incarnations of our favorite Joes I love 'em. I also really enjoy that the creators of the show struck a nice balance between the 'feel' of the 80's Joe and the greatness of Resolute.

Looking forward to future episodes.

[Troynos]

Just caught it on Youtube.

Liked:
Mindbender - definately how a crazy scientist should be
Baroness - love her
Lady Jaye - love the attitude, love the voice
Flint - love how he introduced himself to Duke, that was great, going to enjoy Flint's character.

I hope they use Flint more then just having him so up at the end of the episodes. I can see an A-Team show move happening as the team does their thing and narrowly escapes as the pursuing army unit closes in, like the end of every A-Team episode.

Banter between the team - good, lots of feeling eachother out, give and take

How they got the nicknames - this worked for me, because it seems like something that could happen as it was laid out

Cobra Industries - great idea

Cobra Commander's voice

Scarlett - with her IDW version, and now this, Scarlett is now more then just the token female and Snake-Eyes other half

General Abernaty - now that's a war scarred soldier, love Lee Majors voice

Action & Violence - enough to satisfy the adults and not piss off the censors, good job of toeing the line, we don't see any of the security guards actually die, but it's pretty easy to imagine that they got sliced up by SE

The dialogue - pretty good, not really cheesy, couple good one-liners

What I didn't like:

Duke - not his character, but his look, realy didn't like how it came out

Snake Eyes - too much super ninja, and whats with his reappearing/disappearing act, like someone else said earlier in this thread, I could do without the posing


I voted "just good". I really enjoyed it, but there was some stuff that could have been done better.

On a 5 star system, it would be a 4 out of 5

[D00MTR0N]

its up on youtube?

[Saboteur]

Ripcord will be back. Tunnel Rat is my favorite of the bunch.

[Troynos]

Yep. Both episodes are broken into 2 parts each.

Do a search for G.I. Joe Renegades Episode 1 and Episode 2

[Zefram]

this is the pic i see of cobra commander helmet

maybe the mask of the commander on the episode 2 is the version of the cobra commander hood

And the friggin' game still isn't working right. Who the hell is running that website?

[kneroh]

And the friggin' game still isn't working right. Who the hell is running that website?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090806033402/gijoe/images/b/b2/ARAH_26_Koko.jpg

Once Koko's fixed he'll get the site up and running again.

[jaimanstone]

i do know that ppl should not be bashing ppl for liking it or hating it. yes im talking to the IGs here for the most part as they seem to be the most vocal towards ppl who dont like the show. also post spam pics yes some are funny but its spam and trolling.

i know i will get blasted but i did not attack anyone in this post. just stated how i feel about the show and what i see with the IGs.

Ah Xhairs, my oldest nemesis. It's like the ROC days all over again. I'm glad to see you posted some reasons as to why you disliked renegades. I am curious though, what would make you happy?

Obviously Hasbro decided to leave Resolute as a stand alone event. Renegades is the next incarnation. I am assuming you have the whole thing worked out in your mind as to what would be the anti-renegades. So, give me a detailed episode by episode synopsis of the ultimate GI JOE toon.

Please, let's hear it.

[Troynos]

I missed it all together. Will the show air every friday or everyday and at what time?

It's up on Youtube right now, both episodes.

[kennywr22]

Yea. I keep trying that game and the freezing at level 5 is getting old. I even emailed them weeks ago to no response.I mean there I'd a damn commercial for it on the channel!

[Saboteur]

What I like best about the Renegades, is the story and the plot. I loved Sunbow Joe just like the next guy in the 80's. I liked Resolute. But they were always the same. The Joes were the guys in white chasing down Cobra, the bad guys who were always on the run. Sigma Six was the same way (I think). ROC was.

It's an interesting dynamic, I think, that keeps things in the same general direction. But it opens the door just enough to keep things fresh. The possibilities are almost endless.

Was this the plot to the A-Team? Mostly. But does that mean Renegades is a fraud, or is destined to fail? There were plenty of war movies before sunbow Joe came on the scene. But that didn't mean Joe was a fraud then. It certainly didn't affect it's chances to blossom into something huge and a household name--which is what happened. I personally like the A-Team, so this was just icing on the cake.

This way, WE know what's going on. But America, the armed forces and the general public do not know. And so the heroes have quite a mountain to climb in order to not just clear their names, but put a stop to cobra. There's 2 mission objectives now. And this, I think, is what is going to make it popular. It's people watching the show, rooting for the underdog.

That always makes for good storytelling.

[Echo7Solo]

for the most part I agree with just about everything said.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

It's up on Youtube right now, both episodes.

Where? Could I get a link to see it after work. I want to have an opinion.

[D00MTR0N]

Yep. Both episodes are broken into 2 parts each.

Do a search for G.I. Joe Renegades Episode 1 and Episode 2
cool,thanks man

[WeaponXCustoms]

linky
YouTube - GIJoeRenegades's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/GIJoeRenegades)

[Monk]

Yah!!! they are on youtube.

YouTube - GIJoeRenegades's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/GIJoeRenegades)

EDIT: a minute late :)

[Trooper13]

Just caught it on Youtube.

Liked:
Mindbender - definately how a crazy scientist should be
Baroness - love her
Lady Jaye - love the attitude, love the voice
Flint - love how he introduced himself to Duke, that was great, going to enjoy Flint's character.

I hope they use Flint more then just having him so up at the end of the episodes. I can see an A-Team show move happening as the team does their thing and narrowly escapes as the pursuing army unit closes in, like the end of every A-Team episode.

Banter between the team - good, lots of feeling eachother out, give and take

How they got the nicknames - this worked for me, because it seems like something that could happen as it was laid out

Cobra Industries - great idea

Cobra Commander's voice

Scarlett - with her IDW version, and now this, Scarlett is now more then just the token female and Snake-Eyes other half

General Abernaty - now that's a war scarred soldier, love Lee Majors voice

Action & Violence - enough to satisfy the adults and not piss off the censors, good job of toeing the line, we don't see any of the security guards actually die, but it's pretty easy to imagine that they got sliced up by SE

The dialogue - pretty good, not really cheesy, couple good one-liners

What I didn't like:

Duke - not his character, but his look, realy didn't like how it came out

Snake Eyes - too much super ninja, and whats with his reappearing/disappearing act, like someone else said earlier in this thread, I could do without the posing


I voted "just good". I really enjoyed it, but there was some stuff that could have been done better.

On a 5 star system, it would be a 4 out of 5

I thought you'd like what they did with Flint, and I think he will get alot of face time. I like how he was sharp enough to get the drop on Baroness right off the bat. He caught her in the lie, but was slick enough to still "play the game" with her. I think he knows there's more going on, but he's playing it close to the vest until he puts the whole puzzle together. I think they will have alot of back and forth, which will be cool.

[Screamers]

Seriously It's not the G.I. Joe I remember, But I'm sure there are fans, mostly younger fans that will love it.

[jaimanstone]

Seriously It's not the G.I. Joe I remember, But I'm sure there are fans, mostly younger fans that will love it.

Hmmm...

I'm 31 and I loved it.

[dgnr82]

I would have rather had Resolute as the cartoon and Renegades as the 1 time show. I'll watch. The story seems really good.

[Shin Densetsu]

I thought it was cool that the team is portrayed as an American unit, something absent from GI Joe media tie-ins for the past few years. Also liked how Tunnel Rat was sarcastic and that he and Roadblock were annoyed with Ripcord's lame jokes. I have a feeling he isn't dead.

I enjoyed the episodes more than I thought I would. During the 1st minutes of the 1st episode, I felt like turning away, I was disappointed, but I stuck with it. The characterizations are good so far. Duke's voice actor reminded me of the Sunbow version, which isn't bad, as it was familiar. Duke isn't that bad in this one(I don't like most Dukes; the POC Jungle one is awesome, Sigma 6 Duke was okay..et al). Snake Eyes was cool but we already knew how he was going to be portrayed. Definitely like the Baroness and General Hawk. Flint was cool too. I sense a Optimus Prime VS Sentinel Prime dynamic with him and Duke...considering that Isenberg is writing this show, it should turn out cool, I just hope Flint ends up likable, as Sentinel Prime was a prick in TF Animated, the whole time. Then again, Prowl was up until season 2, and he turned out to be cool.

Overall I think Renegades is off to a good start. The animation is choppy in episode 1 but episode 2 is different. Characterization so far is the strong point. Hopefully it is maintained all the way through the end of season 1.

Do I like it better than Transformers PRIME? Right now I prefer the latter, and just because we've seen worse than those 2 does not excuse these series from any fallacies we currently see. However, both series are off to a good start and I am glad Hasbro is placing emphasis on character/story development. Hopefully we are in for a treat in the long run.

[Sunbow_Joe84]

Obviously just by my name you can tell I'm a big fan of the original cartoon. that being said, this was an incredible experience. I enjoyed every minute of it. we've had a joe causality, lot's of great action scenes and awesome dialog.

[bluebikerboy1]

me? well since you asked...............


My only gripe is how they explained the code names. I think this could have been written better. it just seemed kind of forced.

I litteraly lol when ripcord got blown up. I thought that was a sweet treat from hasbro to make up for the movie (did anyone else notice he was black and not white as in the original line? this is why i thought they were throwing a jab at the brady borther with killing his cocky mouth character early)

animation is what i expect. I expected them to have a diffrent take on the line and I enjoyed the show. I am curious to see where they take this series.

[Shin Densetsu]

me? well since you asked...............


My only gripe is how they explained the code names. I think this could ahve been written better. it just seemed kind of forced.



Agreed. Though we don't know how Snake Eyes got his code name so far.

[Jay West]

I did not enjoy as much as I thought I would, but I think part of that is b/c from all the clips it was fairly easy to piece together the plot of the first 2 episodes. I hope with episode 3 there will be a few more surprises. I loved CC. I really hope we get his hologram version as part of a playset or something.

[Lifeline_MD]

So, having finally seen this on Youtube, my verdict on previous concerns:

1) animation style - yes, its the "in" design now to have everything anime or anime immitation, but ENOUGH! What ever happened to semi-realistic-looking cartoons???

Don't hate it, but still not the best animation I've ever seen. That said, it didn't detract from the show, so ok.

2) Ripcord's continued race change - really? would it really confuse kids that much to have him white? (pet peeve) Ironically, a latino Lady Jaye isn't bugging me just yet. Most likely it will.

I'm OK with LJ, and Ripcord's death pleases me. Thumbs up.

3) Gender changes for any character no matter how minor. If you want more girls, invent more girls. Very simple. They added Icestorm, Shadow Tracker, Sandstorm, Air Raid, Night Adder, and others in/since the movie line. If they want more girls they can create them too, but they don't, so don't go changing existing characters because your too lazy to think up a new name.

I forget who/what this was in reference to. The point stands, but as it hasn't come up yet, its not a problem.


4) The team being split up with Hawk against them, and Duke/Flint being rivals. This just annoys me, it could acutally work, but knowing how this sort of thing is usually done in kids toons, its going to be REALLY annoying.

Hmmm...could have been worse, but still unnecessary. As long as its not a constant feature, I'll live with it.

5) Tunnel Rat as the medic. WTF!?!?!?!?! The guy who crawls around in sewers holding the bandages? Who thought THAT was a good idea? let alone sanitary? Where's Doc? Stretcher? Sideswipe? Med Alert? Lifeline? ILLOGICAL

Still bugs me. But could be worse.

7) Bio. Vipers. Nuff. Said.

OK...that actually...worked....lets just not make them a regular feature.



Other positives:

Mindbender - um...wow. Complete departure from the source material, but absolutely incredible. I actually like this version more.

Baroness - very nice adaptation.

Cobra Commander - predictable but good

Negatives:

Not enough joes. We need more named characters on Flint's team and some more joes to join the renegades. I assume we'll get that over time though.







So, despite being one of the most vocal detractors based on the previews:

Verdict: GREAT!

[lilmonster777]

out with the old....in with the new...that was great

[gunslingercbr]

meh, watched 3 minutes of it and was all I could take. that isn't an indictment of the cartoon itself, I simply have no interest in children's cartoons. I'm not sure how anyone could tell whether it was good or not, it is written like all cartoons.

[speedocub]

So, having finally seen this on Youtube, my verdict on previous concerns:



Don't hate it, but still not the best animation I've ever seen. That said, it didn't detract from the show, so ok.



I'm OK with LJ, and Ripcord's death pleases me. Thumbs up.



I forget who/what this was in reference to. The point stands, but as it hasn't come up yet, its not a problem.




Hmmm...could have been worse, but still unnecessary. As long as its not a constant feature, I'll live with it.



Still bugs me. But could be worse.



OK...that actually...worked....lets just not make them a regular feature.



Other positives:

Mindbender - um...wow. Complete departure from the source material, but absolutely incredible. I actually like this version more.

Baroness - very nice adaptation.

Cobra Commander - predictable but good

Negatives:

Not enough joes. We need more named characters on Flint's team and some more joes to join the renegades. I assume we'll get that over time though.







So, despite being one of the most vocal detractors based on the previews:

Verdict: GREAT!


Dude, you quoted yourself like six times man...thats a new record!

[Jay West]

I liked it. I look forward to more Joes popping up. I am hoping we get an updated take on the Dreadnoks. With the Joes on the run, an evil biker gang makes sense.

[Nirvana]

Agreed. Though we don't know how Snake Eyes got his code name so far.

Possibility? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h59k8_HhcOI)

I skipped around for a little bit because I can't watch the tube videos until later, but it didn't seem all that bad. Still not a big fan of the noses as far as character design goes, but that's about it. Enjoyed watching Mindbender ditch the "hicks" and then the Joes come rolling in with SE trying to be badass on something that just wouldn't go down.

[Zefram]

meh, watched 3 minutes of it and was all I could take. that isn't an indictment of the cartoon itself, I simply have no interest in children's cartoons. I'm not sure how anyone could tell whether it was good or not...

How about by watching more than 3min of it. :P

[MichaelJA]

Was it only me or did anyone else think A-Team when they where watching it, not to say that's a bad thing but when Snakeeyes came in at the end with Smoke Bombs it looked like the A-Team getaway for me.

[firefox91]

linky
YouTube - GIJoeRenegades's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/GIJoeRenegades)

Is this a legit channel that the Hub or Hasbro approved? Seems like it might be. I hope so because it makes it easy to watch it whenever I want. If not, oh well. I am recording them anyway.

I liked this show a lot. I could get into details but that has already been discussed to an extreme. I will just just leave it at that.

[bluebikerboy1]

Was it only me or did anyone else think A-Team when they where watching it, not to say that's a bad thing but when Snakeeyes came in at the end with Smoke Bombs it looked like the A-Team getaway for me.

for some reason i was thinking "24" but after a few mentions of the A team that got me thinking and i agree the similarities are better. Still makes a good story line thoguh. THe A-team was on for how many years?

[kneroh]

Is this a legit channel that the Hub or Hasbro approved? Seems like it might be. I hope so because it makes it easy to watch it whenever I want. If not, oh well. I am recording them anyway.

I liked this show a lot. I could get into details but that has already been discussed to an extreme. I will just just leave it at that.

Considering there's no ad pre-roll or copyright/trademark info on the page I'm going to say no.

[Saboteur]

That channel is not sponsored by Hasbro or Cobra Industries.

It is a Renegade.

[Master Henton]

I kinda felt.....underwhelmed by Renegades.

I'm gonna keep watching because I can't hate an entire season based on 2 episodes. The race has started but they've just got their noses out of the gate.

My question is....Is there really even a G.I. Joe Unit?

Lady Jaye showes up handing out assignments, and it seems none of them really know each other. Rip & Duke didn't even know each other.

A Latina Lady Jaye? I'm feeling the "Latino Heat!" Damn I miss Eddie......R.I.P.

I hated the Bio-Vipers......you know if they make toys of them they'll be like the Gelrub.

Why are you guys gushing all over the vehicles? Flint's Jeep was the only thing I could see actually being produced by Hasbro.

Hopefully they'll introduce some Jets and Apaches for future toy releases.

I hope they don't drag this out too long....Joes after Joes or non-Joes after non-Joes. I really need some good old fashion Joes on Cobra action.

Duke saluted Barroness as they drove by.....any thoughts? Other than him just being a smart a$$ (not that thats bad).

[Nirvana]

It is a Renegade.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1480/seriouslyriley.jpg


Also:

YouTube - Styx - Renegade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhuso4OTG4)

:D

[700block]

[QUOTE=ChaplainAsst;2095358]So, here are my issues with these episodes:
-How many commercials can Hasbro squeeze into a 30 minute cartoon? How many times can you replay the first 2 minutes of the show?

i dont watch commercials i have a dvr.

[Echo7Solo]

I kinda felt.....underwhelmed by Renegades.

I'm gonna keep watching because I can't hate an entire season based on 2 episodes. The race has started but they've just got their noses out of the gate.

My question is....Is there really even a G.I. Joe Unit?

Lady Jaye showes up handing out assignments, and it seems none of them really know each other. Rip & Duke didn't even know each other.

A Latina Lady Jaye? I'm feeling the "Latino Heat!" Damn I miss Eddie......R.I.P.

I hated the Bio-Vipers......you know if they make toys of them they'll be like the Gelrub.

Why are you guys gushing all over the vehicles? Flint's Jeep was the only thing I could see actually being produced by Hasbro.

Hopefully they'll introduce some Jets and Apaches for future toy releases.

I hope they don't drag this out too long....Joes after Joes or non-Joes after non-Joes. I really need some good old fashion Joes on Cobra action.

Duke saluted Barroness as they drove by.....any thoughts? Other than him just being a smart a$$ (not that thats bad).

Right now no, there is NOT a GI Joe unit. That's one of the things I like about it. I would rather see the start of the unit over just another day at HQ or on the Flagg. I mean if you are going to start over and change people at least do it from the start of the race, not half way through it. (I'm looking at you Resolute)

Yeah I think duke was being a smart ass too.

[700block]

I'm guessing the "public" COBRA symbol is just that, the public image of COBRA and the real symbol (an example of aesthetic perfection) will appear later.

i like the new cobra symbol.

[MeLikeJinx]

Really? The fact that we just saw Blueshirts is what I loved. All the different Vipers are the lamest thing they ever did to Cobra.
I thought those were Tele-Vipers. And I love all the different Vipers; it is the only thing that makes me jealous of Cobra... as a mostly Joe-only collector.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I thought those were Tele-Vipers. And I love all the different Vipers; it is the only thing that makes me jealous of Cobra... as a mostly Joe-only collector.

Yeah anyone who just wants blue shirts can have em. I want the various specialized vipers (sans Bio-viper, especially the renegades one). It gave way to all sorts of cool looking figures and troop buidling possibilities. Who wants an entirely blue shirt army?

thats about as bad as having a ton of green shirts to fill your joe ranks. Go play risk, chess, or Modern Warfare on Xbox if people want modern bland infantry warfare lol...those were definelty tele-vipers...not blue shirts. If you notice the Shock Troopers are actually Joes right now...they were in green with thier riot shields with Flint...

[Mr.Kane]

It ain't that bad. I'm sure you Rip Cord haters loved what happen to him. Still not crazy over the look of it, but I will let that go for now.

[TYPHUS]

hey 700block whats the deal with those security belt clips??? i could sure use one of them for my hospital security pass!!!!!

[MeLikeJinx]

If you notice the Shock Troopers are actually Joes right now...they were in green with thier riot shields with Flint...
Guess we can expect a POC Shock Trooper Renegades Joe repaint then. LOL. I actually thought those guys looked pretty awesome.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Guess we can expect a POC Shock Trooper Renegades Joe repaint then. LOL. I actually thought those guys looked pretty awesome.

Be cool if they do N.E.S.T figures to go with the new Prime cartoon. that would be awesome stuff...since the Hummer HX looking humvees in Renegades look alot like the N.E.S.T Hummer HXs in TF 2. But then again the TF figures won; tbe large enough to go with a 3 3/4 scale figure line ;(

[speedocub]

I don't care for Ripcord being a smart ass, I also don't like the direction they took with him like most. He was a great guy in ARAH and they made him the Jar Jar of GI Joe. I thought that was what Shipwreck was for. I hope he stays dead...I wouldn't mind that. But if he doesn't I'd love for him to become Kenny like...that would be a fun and witty thing to do.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I don't care for Ripcord being a smart ass, I also don't like the direction they took with him like most. He was a great guy in ARAH and they made him the Jar Jar of GI Joe. I thought that was what Shipwreck was for. I hope he stays dead...I wouldn't mind that. But if he doesn't I'd love for him to become Kenny like...that would be a fun and witty thing to do.

HAHA omg they killed ripcord! those bastards!

[Troynos]

Right now no, there is NOT a GI Joe unit. That's one of the things I like about it. I would rather see the start of the unit over just another day at HQ or on the Flagg. I mean if you are going to start over and change people at least do it from the start of the race, not half way through it. (I'm looking at you Resolute)

Yeah I think duke was being a smart ass too.

^ This

The salute was Duke's way of saying "F-U" to the Baroness.

I love that they are starting at the beginning, which they said when they announced the series was what they were going to do. They have a 5-7 season plan for the show, so it's going to be the evolution of how G.I. Joe becomes a unit.

Most likely, throughout the show, Cobras evil deeds will become public knowledge, they'll become more like the terrorist organization we know, and the Joes will become an official unit.

It should be a fun ride watching how that all happens.

[Echo7Solo]

^ This

The salute was Duke's way of saying "F-U" to the Baroness.

I love that they are starting at the beginning, which they said when they announced the series was what they were going to do. They have a 5-7 season plan for the show, so it's going to be the evolution of how G.I. Joe becomes a unit.

Most likely, throughout the show, Cobras evil deeds will become public knowledge, they'll become more like the terrorist organization we know, and the Joes will become an official unit.

It should be a fun ride watching how that all happens.


yeah it looks like this and Young Justice both have plans past the first episode/season. There is more than enough room for both of those shows to grow.

[vadersquest]

I just watched Renegades and WOW...I loved it! I see so much potential in this show that I cannot wait for the next! Awesome!!!!!

[D00MTR0N]

i could only find the first episode on youtube?i wanted to see cc man,bummer

[gunslingercbr]

How about by watching more than 3min of it. :P

morbid curiosity will probably cause me to check it out some more; I just don't like cartoons is the problem.

[vadersquest]

i could only find the first episode on youtube?i wanted to see cc man,bummer
Episode 2 is there, keep looking.

[Shin Densetsu]

i could only find the first episode on youtube?i wanted to see cc man,bummer

You only really see him at the very end of episode 2, briefly, and in the opening.

[minitrue]

I just finished watching both episodes on youtube. They were fantastic. I can't wait to see how the team evolves! How will Lady Jaye convince Flint to join Duke- or will Flint hold out until Duke's people are cleared? This is going to be great. I bet they will introduce a few new characters at a time and slowly build up the roster on all the teams. The characters seem pretty good. Roadblock seems a little slow, but that is okay. I can't wait to watch this again tomorrow with my 6 year old. I think he will like this better than young justice.

[General Hawk]

i could only find the first episode on youtube?i wanted to see cc man,bummer

If you can't find that second episode, I've got the Cobra Commander scene right here:

YouTube - JBellHawk's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/JBellHawk?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/5qhQGoddbzY)

Justin

[Syn3sthesia]

It was decent.

The code name deal was good for like the 1st time. They should stretch it out a little bit longer throughout the series.

Ripcord getting killed was a plus but I'm sure he will come back later in the series by surving the blast by some kind of miracle.

I'm sticking around but I won't lose any sleep if I miss an episode.

[SNAKE EYES]

this is the pic i see of cobra commander helmet

maybe the mask of the commander on the episode 2 is the version of the cobra commander hood

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/attachments/g-i-joe-renegades-animation-discussion/70723d1290894750-renegades-premiere-discussion-thread-gijoe-renegades-tactics-splash-screen.png


That looks much better can't wait to see that used in the cartoon.

[D00MTR0N]

That looks much better can't wait to see that used in the cartoon.
i know,i cant wait to see the commander and destro in full getup

[D00MTR0N]

If you can't find that second episode, I've got the Cobra Commander scene right here:

YouTube - JBellHawk's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/JBellHawk?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/5qhQGoddbzY)

Justin
good stuff man,thanks :)

[dj7000]

ummm yea, so Part one was hit or miss. hated how they gave each other names. has that old cheesy after school Joe feel to it. Tunnel rat is hilarious and there's some funny parts.

Part 2: Like the power struggle between Duke and Scarlet. You;d think after awhile Snake eyes would good tired of sheathing and unsheathing his sword. Cuttin him to pieces the first 5 times didnt work.

Dear god I loved how they introduced Cobra Commander. Brilliant. So Ripcord is really dead huh?