View Full Version : Guns, T & A & No Acting!
Griffin73
04-25-2008, 11:18 PM
"Guns, tits, ass, no acting!"
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b133184_Sienna_Erects_Next_Summers_Tentpole.html
Direct quote from Siena Miller. Describing to a fan her new film, the live-action G.I. Joe, Paramount's big summer movie for 2009
Quote from - E Entertainment Online
That's okay, I didn't think she knew much about acting anyways.
Please comment on the E! Entertainment site how disgusted you are with her as Baroness after that comment.
Golobulous
04-25-2008, 11:20 PM
The actual baroness character from the comics was to smart and sophisticated to be about tits and ass anyday. if that quote is real i find it very insulting.
Griffin73
04-25-2008, 11:21 PM
The actual baroness character from the comics was to smart and sophisticated to be about tits and ass anyday. if that quote is real i find it very insulting.
Got it right off the wire!
She wasn't my first choice that's for sure.
SnakeEyes
04-25-2008, 11:32 PM
can you post a link to that interview?
Griffin73
04-25-2008, 11:33 PM
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b133184_Sienna_Erects_Next_Summers_Tentpole.html
Syn3sthesia
04-25-2008, 11:34 PM
Excellent choice of words...
xhairs
04-25-2008, 11:43 PM
wow even the actors think this film is a joke
Moses
04-25-2008, 11:48 PM
Come on, the movie has to have a big punchline with the director they chose to lead the project.
Griffin73
04-25-2008, 11:52 PM
She is the joke. She's just terrible. I can believe they cast her in the first place.
SnakeEyes
04-25-2008, 11:54 PM
WOW...how very classy of her...puke!!! Unfortunate to say the least!!!
Griffin73
04-25-2008, 11:58 PM
I was hoping this movie would be a bit more cerebral and not so cheesy. Another stake in the heart! Just like seeing the costumes, I'm feeling less and less secure about this turning out well.
Shin Densetsu
04-26-2008, 12:00 AM
I like Sienna Miller, she is hot, loved her on Keen Eddy, but I don't think it was good for her to say that about a movie that she is going to be in.
Griffin73
04-26-2008, 12:05 AM
Hot doesn't equal being attractive
Moses
04-26-2008, 12:07 AM
on the positive side, at least the movie has a couple things going for it... too bad acting is not one of them
swafus
04-26-2008, 12:07 AM
Looks like her and JG Levitt have been sharing ideas on how to talk to the media......"sigh".............This movie is going to be a complete disaster and as a (true) fan I want absolutely nothing to do with this hunk of crap.
The End......I'm out
swafus
04-26-2008, 12:12 AM
I like Sienna Miller, she is hot, loved her on Keen Eddy, but I don't think it was good for her to say that about a movie that she is going to be in.
Hot girls in Hollywood are a dime a dozen. A lot of them can act too. ....and I'm willing to bet at least half of them would have more tact than this twit.
Griffin73
04-26-2008, 12:20 AM
Sienna Miller is tabloid fodder. That's why she was cast. Because she has a name and that's it. Really what has she done? Nothing much really! She's a media whore!
bluebikerboy1
04-26-2008, 12:36 AM
well this has actually made me more axious to see what they have in store for us.
barbecue
04-26-2008, 12:39 AM
What a bitch! That's what she is. If she find that movie to be a joke, why in the green blue hell she accepted that role? There are hundreds of much more better actresses than that blonde haired bimbo that now posses as a brunnete.
bluebikerboy1
04-26-2008, 12:44 AM
What a bitch! That's what she is. If she find that movie to be a joke, why in the green blue hell she accepted that role? There are hundreds of much more better actresses than that blonde haired bimbo that now posses as a brunnete.
answer?
$$$$$$$$$$
plain and simple.
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 12:46 AM
Well, it seems as though the only actor really excited about this movie is Ray Park. Out of all the interviews and comments made by the cast, he was the only one who seemed sincerely honored to be involved. Quaid thinks it's a joke, JGL thinks it's a mindless vacation, Sienna Miller thinks it's a frat party gone bad! Maybe they should have taken a little more time casting this film!!
Griffin73
04-26-2008, 12:51 AM
At least when X-Men was cast the people involved seem to be into it. But these people are a bunch of ingrates. I remember Halle Berry saying how much she loved being Storm and that she Identified with the character. There is nothing intellectual about the people cast in this move so far. They are just window dressing for Hasbro to make more toys. Where is the story? Where are the characters and costumes we loved growing up? Where is the loyalty to the fans that kept GI Joe alive all these years?
lerath666
04-26-2008, 12:59 AM
don't you know? hasblo could appearently care less what we think.
Shin Densetsu
04-26-2008, 01:02 AM
Hey who knows, we haven't heard a word from Lee Byung-hun yet, for all we know, he might be really into his role, like Ray Park.
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 01:06 AM
You know, if he is, it may just make sense. I mean didn't I hear that SE and SS were MAJOR players in this film? Maybe it's just an "I didn't get enough screentime so now I'm gonna bash the movie" kinda thing. Maybe she feels as though her role in the film is irrelevant, which would confirm her apparent lack of personality in the script.
The actual baroness character from the comics was to smart and sophisticated to be about tits and ass anyday. if that quote is real i find it very insulting.
I agree!
bluebikerboy1
04-26-2008, 02:24 AM
anyone wonder if she was making a joke and the media played it out of context like its known to do?
MAJOR WOLF
04-26-2008, 05:29 AM
At least when X-Men was cast the people involved seem to be into it. But these people are a bunch of ingrates. I remember Halle Berry saying how much she loved being Storm and that she Identified with the character. There is nothing intellectual about the people cast in this move so far. They are just window dressing for Hasbro to make more toys. Where is the story? Where are the characters and costumes we loved growing up? Where is the loyalty to the fans that kept GI Joe alive all these years?
I agree!!! Shame on Hasbro & Hollywood.
Dark 5cythe
04-26-2008, 05:51 AM
Sweet! T n A and lots of guns! This is how an action movie should be. And GI Joe should be an action movie.
Damn, so many of you seem like your lives are ruined. Chill out guys. For all we know she was being sarcastic, or exagerating. Shit, if the movie has alot of T n A is that really something bad? No one complained about megan fox in Transformers or the hot aussie chick.
The acting is horrible in ALL our nerdy movies. From Transformers to star wars to xmen to lord of the rings. Who gives a shit? As long as its fun!
gunslingercbr
04-26-2008, 05:54 AM
let's see, I am not going to complain about tits and ass, and I am certainly not going to be up in arms over the idea that the Baroness isn't some complex character that requires a tremendous amount of acting. it's a character based on a toy. it's G.I. Joe, not Shakespeare.
Snake-Eyes
04-26-2008, 06:08 AM
Sienna Miller is just a no class actress she was filming a movie in Pittsburgh and knocked it left and right. In Rolling Stone she called it shitsburgh. She really knows how to win over a city let alone a state with her big mouth. I hope she pays her publicist well to cover up for all her ridiculous comments.
http://www.usmagazine.com/node/2706
Dark 5cythe
04-26-2008, 06:24 AM
let's see, I am not going to complain about tits and ass, and I am certainly not going to be up in arms over the idea that the Baroness isn't some complex character that requires a tremendous amount of acting. it's a character based on a toy. it's G.I. Joe, not Shakespeare.
Here Here! Thank you for your support.
Can you imagine how they explained the role to her?
"ok, you play a sexy villainess with an annoying accent thats in love with a guy who wont take off a metal mask. You love each other but you hate each other. and You dont like Gi Joe. Yes you always have to wear that uncomfortably tight black outift. AAAAnnnd Action!"
Reznor
04-26-2008, 07:18 AM
Come on, the movie has to have a big punchline with the director they chose to lead the project.
Thank you! Ive been saying since the beginning that the biggest problem with the direction of this film was the Director himself!
Im not a big Sommers fan at all, and when I heard he was the one doing it, I knew it was gonna be goofy as all hell.
Come on! The were-wolf and Frakenstien doin trapeze crap?! (Van Helsing)
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 08:12 AM
I'm not complaining about the TnA part at all. It's the apparent lack of respect for the project that torks me off. I mean, the Baroness IS one of the sexiest parts of Joeverse and I don't mind that at all. But to say that it's all tits, ass, guns, and no acting IMO is disrespectful, classless, and unprofessional! And, furthermore, to say that an action movie requires no acting is BS!! Everytime anyone gets in front of an audience to perform a character other than themselves it's called ACTING!
Like I said, I'm not retarded, I like me a little TnA every now and again. But, I don't believe Michelle Pfieffer (or Halle Berry for that matter) ever made comments like this when they donned the Catwoman leather. That's because they were too classy to do so. And even if they thought the same thing, they respected the fans enough to not make stupid comments like this.
Crimson Rage
04-26-2008, 08:17 AM
GI JOE = Action Movie. If you expect the in depth characer studies it's taken years for the comic to cultivate then you were doomed to be disappointed from the off.
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 08:25 AM
I've learned not to expect anything! You're always dissappointed when you do. But, this isn't about expectations at all...well, I guess it is in a way. I expect PROFESSIONALISM. And her comments were in no way, shape, or form professional. Sorry, that's my opinion! Anyway, how can you have a character "based on toys" going around making comments about titts and ass! As a father, what kind of parent would I be if comments like this didn't concern me? Furthermore, what kind of parent would I be if I DIDN'T think twice about taking my son to see the movie now? I don't know, maybe I'm just too old fashioned but it bothers me!
I don't care if the girl can't act her way out of a wet paper bag! And I damn sure don't care about "depth"! But, I guarantee you there are parents like me out there who DO care what kind of crap their kids are watching.
tile_mcgillus
04-26-2008, 08:37 AM
Was that comment tactful...no.
Is it true...yes.
Think back to your favorite action movies. The acting is usually bad and the action phenomenal. Any Schwarzenegger film from the eighties.
Actors consider comic book movies and geek cinema, a big paycheck and thats it. Stanislavski doesn't talk about playing a cartoon.
We are not paying Sienna Miller to speak here guys....if you know what I mean.
Crimson Rage
04-26-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm just surprised at people for being horrified that an actor would work for 'money'! This notion that every actor can pick & choose their jobs based on 'artistic integrity' is absurd and no more appicable to their job as it it any other. It's a verylucky few who can put 'job satisfaction' before financial concerns, in any profession.
It's also sad that such glib, throwaway comments such as this are immediately leapt upon and held up as 'proof of something or other' by the internet hoardes. No wonder actors become neurotic...
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 08:51 AM
I don't think you're getting the point. Is that comment true? YES, probably so! But by making that comment, you've just alienated a lot of parents who worry about what their kids are taking in. And I think we can all agree that toy sales will drive this line. SO, if parents won't take their kids to see the movie, then the only toy sales you'll have will be from collectors. Thus making that innocent little comment a huge factor. I guess they just figure that there are far too few parents out there that are actually paying attention to really care.
My point is, next time Sienna, just smile, nod, look pretty, and keep your mouth shut! You'll get way more respect as an actress by doing that than you'll ever get by making comments like this! I'm done now!
SnakeEyes
04-26-2008, 08:56 AM
It's also sad that such glib, throwaway comments such as this are immediately leapt upon and held up as 'proof of something or other' by the internet hoardes. No wonder actors become neurotic...
The fact that this comment is considered a "throwaway" comment by people such as yourself is what concerns me.
Irid70
04-26-2008, 09:39 AM
I don't think I've ever seen such overreaction to a short printed quote (lacking tone or context) about any subject, ever.
Was it a bright thing to say? No. It was not.
But, as others have said...she's playing a black-leather clad terrorist sexpot. Exactly what sort of nuance and depth do you expect?
Shogi
04-26-2008, 09:40 AM
I for one, do not believe a sentence composed of 6 words makes an interview. For all we know, she could have been trying to be funny and failed at it, or she really believes what she said, or heck, she could have just dealt with 8 other reporters asking her the same thing and she was in a hurry to get somewhere.
The simple fact about this movie is some people will probably hate it and claim to have lost faith in their childhood toy, some will absolutely love it and beg for more.
I shudder to think what the internet would have looked like back in the eightis while they made He-Man, The Punisher or Garbage Pail Kids. My case in point being, here's 3 badly made movies about toys/stickers. Now, how many of you liked any of those films? I liked Punisher, the other two were crap
Deckard
04-26-2008, 10:50 AM
man. so far this movie seems like its gonna be about as good as joel schumachers batman movies with this this kinda talent. Something tells me i may wanna stay home and watch sweeney todd again :>
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:56 AM
let's see, I am not going to complain about tits and ass, and I am certainly not going to be up in arms over the idea that the Baroness isn't some complex character that requires a tremendous amount of acting. it's a character based on a toy. it's G.I. Joe, not Shakespeare.
1.) ditto the T & A, as long as i can still take the kids to see it. but i don't see them getting that gratuitous with it.
2.) disagree here. some of these characters are VERY complex. THAT is what most of the fans on here are mad about. we have developed characters that people are ignoring. plenty of background, etc. i've always told friends, and even students, that you could actually write term papers on Star Wars with the plot, backstories, etc. it's as much a saga as anything else. GI Joe has NO less story or character development.
3.) i am HOPING that this is an example of a hollywood starlet TRYING to be funny and cute and pump a movie up while NOT having the intellectual skills to do so. haven't we heard that she did plenty of working out, etc, to be physically fit to play the Baroness? THAT in itself had made me think that she was taking the role seriously. it's kind of like in the bible where Jesus tells the parable of the two brothers. one says he won't do what his father told him, then feels bad, and goes and does it...one says he will, trying to be the good son, then lazily, does NOT go and do it.
the point is that people's actions are more important. of course, it's still a stupid comment.
4.) before she got this role, i had NEVER heard of her.
all this being said, if she's really working hard to get into character, perhaps we shouldn't jump to conclusions due to a relatively little known starlet opening her mouth, unscripted, and idiocity coming out.
or, perhaps as hillary clinton said, she mis-spoke...if she makes a habit of this, i'd worry. as it is, not yet.
there are plenty of other spoilers to worry about.
LaDracul
04-26-2008, 11:11 AM
Sienna Miller is tabloid fodder. That's why she was cast. Because she has a name and that's it. Really what has she done? Nothing much really! She's a media whore!
AMEN! I have a feeling she only got famous because she attached herself to Jude Law. And that didn't work out, did it?
Unfortunately, all the Sommersverse haters are being douchebags about this quote. Hmm, how do you explain a Shakespearian actor being in this film if there's no acting? BOOSH!!!!
swafus
04-26-2008, 11:29 AM
I love how all of a sudden everyone is an authority on what it takes to be an actor. It doesn't matter if it's an action movie or a romantic comedy or F#$%ing shakespeare, to truly pull off a role, you have to absorb the character and put everything you've got into it. I've auditioned 100's of actors for everything from a psycho killer to a guy who sits on a couch with a blank look on his face and says "whoa!"
Every scene you see in a film is a long thought out process. Some longer and more thought out than others which accounts for alot of the "bad acting" that's out there. For an actor to say that a film requires no acting or that it is mindless fun tells me that the actor basically cashing a paycheck and wiping there ass with the project!
You guys want to see some great acting in an action movie? Why don't you pop in:
Aliens and watch Bill Paxton, Michael Biehn, or Sogourney Weaver perform the hell out of those characters!
If you guys are content with a "mindless" action movie then save your $10 and go buy Ultraviolet, or matrix reloaded.
G.I.Eddie
04-26-2008, 11:31 AM
Another stake in the heart! Just like seeing the costumes, I'm feeling less and less secure about this turning out well.
if you haven't read the script, that will only make you feel worse...
...Maybe it's just an "I didn't get enough screentime so now I'm gonna bash the movie" kinda thing. Maybe she feels as though her role in the film is irrelevant, which would confirm her apparent lack of personality in the script.
trust me, she has plenty of screentime...
gunslingercbr
04-26-2008, 12:11 PM
And, furthermore, to say that an action movie requires no acting is BS!!
and if you think she meant, or anyone else means, no acting absolutely you are simply taking the statement 100% literally to have something to complain about. it's obviously an exaggeration, and with context it is obvious she is saying, in comparison to other roles or movies, the acting required for this is comparatively no acting at all. huge difference between the two.
2.) disagree here. some of these characters are VERY complex. THAT is what most of the fans on here are mad about. we have developed characters that people are ignoring. plenty of background, etc. i've always told friends, and even students, that you could actually write term papers on Star Wars with the plot, backstories, etc. it's as much a saga as anything else. GI Joe has NO less story or character development.
I don't think there is anything complex about these characters. Hama put a lot of detail into telling their stories, but at the end they are just simple 2 dimensional characters. regardless of where Duke went to school, or how many languages he knows, all he is just the perfect, blond all American male. Cobra Commander -- just a crazy sociopath. Snake Eyes -- Hama fleshed out a backstory to explain how he got where he is for what is essentially the stereotypical, kick ass and take names super action hero who says little and does alot, i.e. Snake Pliskin, The Man with No Name.
and Star Wars is even less complex than that, especially the prequels. at least the movies are. I've never read any of the supplemental stories.
I remember being blown away as a child at these stories, because the complexity is that of children's fare to appeal to a 6-10 year old's sensibilities. but as an adult, I have re-read and reviewed them and simply chuckle at how 2 dimensional and silly they are. but, maybe I'm the exception, and I simply haven't held onto my opinion and perspective of these that I formed as a child and instead formed a new one as an adult without my rose-colored nostalgic 1985 eyes.
but hey, we each have our own level of sophistication and expectations. I love G.I. Joe just like you, I just obviously see it completely differently, and take it far less seriously. for me, it is a fun, fantastical world, which this movie is delivering, and attempting to make a serious movie with grit and realism strips away what G.I. Joe has always been about - fun and fantasy, where anything goes. as I've matured, I've never expected a toyline to mature as well to keep up with my tastes simply because a part of me didn't outgrow it. just as why we loved G.I. Joe as kids because it appealed to what we liked as 8 year olds, G.I. Joe now continues to do the same now, so demanding something from it to be aimed at your interests as an adult just isn't realistic.
Golobulous
04-26-2008, 12:17 PM
Swafus you are right on the money man! The characters are very complex and have been carefully developed over 25 years. I don't think any of us thought the new joe movie would be more like Dolph Lundgrens "HE-MAN" but it looks a lot like it only with a slightly bigger budget.
Cobra-Viper
04-26-2008, 12:19 PM
Yawn, sounds like a comment taken out of context to me, and such most people are looking to jump on all the negatives about this film...
...as for me so far I've liked what I've seen, and am gonna wait and do all my judging when I see the film.
GI Guppy the third
04-26-2008, 12:35 PM
This ain't no Shakespeare. Get a grip!
GI Guppy the third
04-26-2008, 12:43 PM
Actors try to promote films the way they think is best without consulting a studio. She apparently thinks she's really hot and that all of us fans like hot women shooting guns. Someone should tell her we thought we were getting a 4 hour "talky" chick flick.
Amaury Sanderson
04-26-2008, 01:36 PM
Well, the pictures of her as Baroness are now explained. This girl is just a victim of a story with no story in. We must prepare to endure a sad experience in august 2009. Please Mr Hama stop the nightmare (and don't ruin Zartan) ...
gunslingercbr
04-26-2008, 02:08 PM
Swafus you are right on the money man! The characters are very complex and have been carefully developed over 25 years. I don't think any of us thought the new joe movie would be more like Dolph Lundgrens "HE-MAN" but it looks a lot like it only with a slightly bigger budget.
yeah, nothing screams complex like a villain who creates a global terrorist organization out of an Amway scheme, who exhibits such B-Movie behaviors like killing his own men -- because he's bad! these characters never behave in a manner that is conflicting or shows real drama. they behave like archetypes through and through. sure, it was most our first experience with a tale that wasn't juvenile or pandering, but the absence of such does not equate to complex. complex is Platoon, or the Godfather. G.I. Joe has all the complexity of Armageddon or American Ninja. sure, people die, and they make sacrifices in those movies too, but no one would ever accuse them of being complex.
GI Guppy the third
04-26-2008, 03:06 PM
yeah, nothing screams complex like a villain who creates a global terrorist organization out of an Amway scheme, who exhibits such B-Movie behaviors like killing his own men -- because he's bad! these characters never behave in a manner that is conflicting or shows real drama. they behave like archetypes through and through. sure, it was most our first experience with a tale that wasn't juvenile or pandering, but the absence of such does not equate to complex. complex is Platoon, or the Godfather. G.I. Joe has all the complexity of Armageddon or American Ninja. sure, people die, and they make sacrifices in those movies too, but no one would ever accuse them of being complex.
Exactly. I think people are mistaking complexity with longetivity.
Dark 5cythe
04-26-2008, 05:00 PM
Exactly. I think people are mistaking complexity with longetivity.
Ill second that motion.
Whats so complex about a guy who likes to snake theme everything in his stereotypical evil organization?
Golobulous
04-26-2008, 05:10 PM
if you think the characters are so weak and stereotypical why do you even care about gi joe at all. why not focus on something more complex that you find more valid and interesting.
אבדון
04-26-2008, 05:16 PM
anyone wonder if she was making a joke and the media played it out of context like its known to do?
WORD.
swafus
04-26-2008, 05:16 PM
yeah, nothing screams complex like a villain who creates a global terrorist organization out of an Amway scheme, who exhibits such B-Movie behaviors like killing his own men -- because he's bad! these characters never behave in a manner that is conflicting or shows real drama. they behave like archetypes through and through. sure, it was most our first experience with a tale that wasn't juvenile or pandering, but the absence of such does not equate to complex. complex is Platoon, or the Godfather. G.I. Joe has all the complexity of Armageddon or American Ninja. sure, people die, and they make sacrifices in those movies too, but no one would ever accuse them of being complex.
Dude, are you even a fan of G.I.Joe? After reading that and pretty much all of your posts, it seems like you have a real distaste for the property and characters?
Golobulous
04-26-2008, 05:18 PM
that is exactly what i am saying swafus!
Shogi
04-26-2008, 05:18 PM
if you think the characters are so weak and stereotypical why do you even care about gi joe at all. why not focus on something more complex that you find more valid and interesting.
Maybe he likes weak and stereotypical characters.
I think he's just trying to point out that there shouldn't be such outrage at a 1 sentence long statement about a movie.
swafus
04-26-2008, 05:18 PM
if you think the characters are so weak and stereotypical why do you even care about gi joe at all. why not focus on something more complex that you find more valid and interesting.
Exactly!
swafus
04-26-2008, 05:20 PM
This ain't no Shakespeare. Get a grip!
No one expects it to be. Does it have to be shakespeare to be well acted? If so, I've been totally misled by all the fine performances I've seen in non-shakespearean films
lockenvar
04-26-2008, 05:42 PM
Transformers was the same kind of thing. Plenty of action but short on story. Even so, it was for the most part, enjoyable and made lots of money ensuring a sequel.
Guns and T&A. Sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon to me! I look forward to GI Joe II.
GI Guppy the third
04-26-2008, 05:47 PM
No one expects it to be. Does it have to be shakespeare to be well acted? If so, I've been totally misled by all the fine performances I've seen in non-shakespearean films
joke. again....lighten up.
GI Guppy the third
04-26-2008, 06:01 PM
if you think the characters are so weak and stereotypical why do you even care about gi joe at all. why not focus on something more complex that you find more valid and interesting.
Complexity is a trait that is neither a positive or negative. Some stories work better if it's simplified. I don't think anyone's saying GIJoe=Reality TV, but it's not going to ever be confused with Michael Clayton.
It's a simplified story combined with a large universe of archetypes that makes it appear complex. It wouldn't work any other way and sometimes characters that aren't complex are a major relief. GI Joe is about military action and that's what I'm going to enjoy come August 09.
Dark 5cythe
04-26-2008, 06:44 PM
I just dont see what all this "complexity" is that people keep bantering on about.
If the movie is as good as Transformers was, Ill be happy.
GI JOE is an action movie. If its got big explosions, lots of fights and cool vehicles, what can be wrong? So the effin ninja doesnt wear a white mask. Who gives a shit? HE still has swords and hes still a ninja!
People have been gryping because scarlets powersuit isnt traditional colors? What the hell is pratical about wearing her original outfit anyway?
Crimson Rage
04-26-2008, 07:26 PM
The franchise can function on many levels, as the simultaneous success of the 80's comic & cartoon proved.
Both mediums featured vastly different plots, origin stories and concepts (including the 'cardinal sin' of not having Snake Eyes and Scarlett as an 'item', GI JOE not being a secret etc.) yet both were embraced by the same fans.
Now, 20 years later, the movie is merely offering a third slant on the original concept, favouring the action (wise move for an action film I reckon)
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:12 PM
Ill second that motion.
Whats so complex about a guy who likes to snake theme everything in his stereotypical evil organization?
Cobra has all the names of his company he started, ARBCO.
congress ruled he had a monopoly, and he had to break it up. this is when he went underground and started his little militia movement..in the town of springfield.
got involved with an international arms broker to get the weapons he needed...started manufacturing his own that he sold to 3rd world nations...etc.
he surrounds himself with mercenaries and others who have an axe to grind with the US government.
no, that's not even realistic...( well, that last part is basically Al Qaeda, the first part is remarkably 'right wing militia movement' )
now,as to GI Joe...
is it vastly complex? maybe not. not shakespeare at least.
but how many of you have read shakespeare? once you get past the language, it is very simple, and quote provacative with the inuendoes about sex. it's basically studied so much today...because of it's LONGEVITY.
that being said, i think we're putting too much stock into what an actress who probably didn't graduate high school had to say.
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:17 PM
I don't think there is anything complex about these characters. Hama put a lot of detail into telling their stories, but at the end they are just simple 2 dimensional characters. regardless of where Duke went to school, or how many languages he knows, all he is just the perfect, blond all American male. Cobra Commander -- just a crazy sociopath. Snake Eyes -- Hama fleshed out a backstory to explain how he got where he is for what is essentially the stereotypical, kick ass and take names super action hero who says little and does alot, i.e. Snake Pliskin, The Man with No Name.
and Star Wars is even less complex than that, especially the prequels. at least the movies are. I've never read any of the supplemental stories.
I remember being blown away as a child at these stories, because the complexity is that of children's fare to appeal to a 6-10 year old's sensibilities. but as an adult, I have re-read and reviewed them and simply chuckle at how 2 dimensional and silly they are. but, maybe I'm the exception, and I simply haven't held onto my opinion and perspective of these that I formed as a child and instead formed a new one as an adult without my rose-colored nostalgic 1985 eyes.
but hey, we each have our own level of sophistication and expectations. I love G.I. Joe just like you, I just obviously see it completely differently, and take it far less seriously. for me, it is a fun, fantastical world, which this movie is delivering, and attempting to make a serious movie with grit and realism strips away what G.I. Joe has always been about - fun and fantasy, where anything goes. as I've matured, I've never expected a toyline to mature as well to keep up with my tastes simply because a part of me didn't outgrow it. just as why we loved G.I. Joe as kids because it appealed to what we liked as 8 year olds, G.I. Joe now continues to do the same now, so demanding something from it to be aimed at your interests as an adult just isn't realistic.
back to Shakespeare...
hamlet...simply a guy who is getting revenge for his father's murder.
Mid summer's night's dream...simply a story of a jealous wife trying to get her husband back screwing up everyone around her.
Julius Caesar...big ego killed by bigger delusioned egos defeated by coniving general wanting revenge.
it all boils down to something...doesn't mean it isn't deep.
Griffin73
04-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Let's bring the focus back to the real issues. Some of the actors have no respect for the lore. Sienna Miller is a twat...pure and simple. She may be fine to look at but she not that hot. I've seen better girls at a bar a two in the morning.
The real issue is they should have found someone more committed to the part. Someone with more presence and less ditzyness. Because only a dumbass would say something to deflate a movie before it's even been made.
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:20 PM
The franchise can function on many levels, as the simultaneous success of the 80's comic & cartoon proved.
Both mediums featured vastly different plots, origin stories and concepts (including the 'cardinal sin' of not having Snake Eyes and Scarlett as an 'item', GI JOE not being a secret etc.) yet both were embraced by the same fans.
Now, 20 years later, the movie is merely offering a third slant on the original concept, favouring the action (wise move for an action film I reckon)
personally, i see the franchise like StarTrek...
when they did their movies...they stayed VERY close to the canon, and kept their core audience. were the movies big budgets? not necessarily, but most of them made bank.
hell, how many did they make? 6? 7?
then the next generation. plenty of money...and TV spin offs.
they could have done a few like this, then done the big high budget finale if they wanted.
but, they didn't.
hope they get this one right.
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Let's bring the focus back to the real issues. Some of the actors have no respect for the lore. Sienna Miller is a twat...pure and simple. She may be fine to look at but she not that hot. I've seen better girls at a bar a two in the morning.
The real issue is they should have found someone more committed to the part. Someone with more presence and less ditzyness. Because only a dumbass would say something to deflate a movie before it's even been made.
i've said this before...didn't we hear she started working out, doing martial arts, etc to get ready for the part?
maybe she's just stupid. doesn't mean she can't act.
Griffin73
04-26-2008, 10:23 PM
In Hollywood, she's known more for who she's given BJs to, then what she's acted in.
Crimson Guard 51
04-26-2008, 10:27 PM
guess i need to go to hollywood.
sgt.bludhound
04-26-2008, 10:34 PM
In Hollywood, she's known more for who she's given BJs to, then what she's acted in.
thats how they get around in the industry, Givin BJ's And Poontang pie's..it's sad to hear her say that about the film. she should take the role more seriously. but with all that money she's getting I think she doesn't give a Sh*t about the film or her role.
MAJOR WOLF
04-27-2008, 01:56 AM
thats how they get around in the industry, Givin BJ's And Poontang pie's..it's sad to hear her say that about the film. she should take the role more seriously. but with all that money she's getting I think she doesn't give a Sh*t about the film or her role.
That is just sad.... it sucks too...
gdztoyz
04-27-2008, 02:27 AM
Geez...I'll admit GI Joe isn't Shakespeare, but...jeez. I act in Direct-To-Video Indie action flicks, and I don't approach what I do with that attitude.
It's not enough to ruin the flick...yet, but hearing that really is a kick in the pants. If acted properly, The Baroness could earn a spot as one of moviedom's greatest femme fatales. She's a bad ass character. I REALLY worry about the accent. I really hope she doesn't come off sounding like Natasha (of Rocky and Bullwinkle fame). My personal casting choice for her has always been Famke Janssen...
MAJOR WOLF
04-27-2008, 02:29 AM
Yeah, Famke Janssen would have be a far better choice than who they did pick.
Crimson Rage
04-27-2008, 04:50 AM
Let's bring the focus back to the real issues. Some of the actors have no respect for the lore. Sienna Miller is a twat...pure and simple. She may be fine to look at but she not that hot. I've seen better girls at a bar a two in the morning.
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She's human, surprisingly. She's doing a 'job'. You think all actors are drones who should automatically gush about their latest role? Personally, I groan everytime the 'star' of a movie is trotted out to blab about how much unconditional love they have for their fellow actors, the scripts and the director (which I'm sure we'll see the cast of GI JOE doing in an 'official' capacity nearer the release date).
Sounds to me like Sienna Miller is stating that she's having a laugh and merely telling it as she see's it. How dare she! Burn the witch!.
Seems, as with Transformers, the people who are inclined to hate the movie project anyway are grasping at anything to use as ammunition and inflating it out of all proportion.
Yeah, Famke Janssen would have be a far better choice than who they did pick.
And I couldn't disagree more about how Famke Janssen (good actress as she is) would be utterly wrong for the BARONESS. Guess that proves what a diverse lot us fans are.
Amaury Sanderson
04-27-2008, 05:28 AM
All is not lost ... The actual Baroness (Sienna "Killer") can have a terrible accident at the end of the movie, leaving her disfigured, and reappears in the second film with a new face (a new actress !).
Now let's start the petition against Mrs Miller ...
SnakeEyes
04-27-2008, 08:37 AM
Seems, as with Transformers, the people who are inclined to hate the movie project anyway are grasping at anything to use as ammunition and inflating it out of all proportion.
Yeah, dude...that's it...I just WANT to hate this movie! I've only spent the last 25 yrs of my life collecting figs, reading the comics, and dreaming of the day they made it. Sorry for wanting actors and actresses who actually give a flying f*@#! Sorry for actually wanting the movie to be...dare I say...GREAT!!
Oh, and for those of you who say we're "overreacting", I don't think so! Overreacting would be setting up a pickett line outside the studio or something stupid like that. I was simply expressing my dis-taste for Sienna's bonehead comment. A dis-taste that apparently many on this thread share!
MAJOR WOLF
04-27-2008, 09:27 AM
All is not lost ... The actual Baroness (Sienna "Killer") can have a terrible accident at the end of the movie, leaving her disfigured, and reappears in the second film with a new face (a new actress !).
Now let's start the petition against Mrs Miller ...
I'm down with that..
rob0213
04-27-2008, 11:04 AM
Let's face it, it was one stupid comment that well could have been taken out of context. And if it wasn't.....so what! It just proves she has no class. A lot of Hollywood doesn't take these movies seriously, this is not a new thing. Am I happy about it? No. Am I suprised by it? Nope. I remember a while back that Shia said about the Transformers that as an actor you have to do a couple of popcorn movies to get "good" roles. And he's probably right. Hollywood is a business. That might suck, but it's how it is. We have to hope that this movie is good and made with some respect to it's core fans. It's still WAY to early to go one way or another about this. I want to see a trailer first, and that's going to be a while.
swafus
04-27-2008, 11:07 AM
Geez...I'll admit GI Joe isn't Shakespeare, but...jeez. I act in Direct-To-Video Indie action flicks, and I don't approach what I do with that attitude.
It's not enough to ruin the flick...yet, but hearing that really is a kick in the pants. If acted properly, The Baroness could earn a spot as one of moviedom's greatest femme fatales. She's a bad ass character. I REALLY worry about the accent. I really hope she doesn't come off sounding like Natasha (of Rocky and Bullwinkle fame). My personal casting choice for her has always been Famke Janssen...
Exactly! I'm an actor/producer as well and no way would I ever approach a role of any kind like this! Next weekend I'm playing a grizzled, cigar-chomping, sunglass wearing, over the top army Colonel in a comedy. I still have to prepare for the role and give it everything I've got.
G.I.Eddie
04-27-2008, 11:47 AM
ya know, if they had given all the parts to no-names like i had hoped for in the beginning, then none of this hollywood ego "i'm too good for this" attitude would be coming out in comments from the actors...no-names would be grateful and act their a$$es off and would be more believeable as we don't already know them as someone else...i.e. MW as Little Man
Crimson Rage
04-27-2008, 12:48 PM
Yeah, dude...that's it...I just WANT to hate this movie! I've only spent the last 25 yrs of my life collecting figs, reading the comics, and dreaming of the day they made it. Sorry for wanting actors and actresses who actually give a flying f*@#! Sorry for actually wanting the movie to be...dare I say...GREAT!!
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There were plenty of people hating this film before any announcement of anything ("Hollywood will F$£@! it up" etc.), so my comment remains justified. Unless you are one of those people inclined to hate this film no matter what (are you? because they're the only ones I mentioned) stop overreacting.
You don't have a monopoly on wanting the film to be "great" by the way. So do I, and a lot of what I've seen lends me to think it will be. Don't like that I see things differently to you? That's life...
LaDracul
04-27-2008, 02:30 PM
All is not lost ... The actual Baroness (Sienna "Killer") can have a terrible accident at the end of the movie, leaving her disfigured, and reappears in the second film with a new face (a new actress !).
Now let's start the petition against Mrs Miller ...
I'm for that, too. Besides, I find it quite odd that Sommers would bend his "No assholes" policy...I'm thinking that Lorenzo Bonaventura (Who also produced "Stardust") wanted her in the first place...
dasaffe
04-27-2008, 02:32 PM
People expected this movie to be driven by acting?
LaDracul
04-27-2008, 02:36 PM
People expected this movie to be driven by acting?
It can't be explosions for two hours, now, can it? :)
Compulsive Collector
04-27-2008, 02:42 PM
SO, if parents won't take their kids to see the movie, then the only toy sales you'll have will be from collectors. Thus making that innocent little comment a huge factor. I guess they just figure that there are far too few parents out there that are actually paying attention to really care. And they would be correct. Most parents aren't following one-liners from trashy gossip web sites for any little thing that might make G.I. JOE seem unfit for the kiddies.
Let's bring the focus back to the real issues. Some of the actors have no respect for the lore. Sienna Miller is a twat...pure and simple. She may be fine to look at but she not that hot. I've seen better girls at a bar a two in the morning. Yeah, misogynistic hate speech is a great way to get your point across. And some people wonder where stereotypes about fandom originate.
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 03:20 PM
I was out a club in Hollywood last night, and I heard a guy a few seats down snickering about how he was a grip on the G.I. Joe movie and that the characters were silly, especially the "black dressed karate man with a strange knights visor who doesn't talk."
WTF!?! how can they continue to hire people for this movie who have no respect for the material. he isn't a karate man, he is a ninja! and it isn't that he doesn't talk, he is mute! GOOODDD! Hollywood is so stupid and destroying G.I. Joe with people who know nothing about it! this movie is going to suck! why couldn't they hire grips who know and respect it's history!
Shogi
04-27-2008, 03:29 PM
I was out a club in Hollywood last night, and I heard a guy a few seats down snickering about how he was a grip on the G.I. Joe movie and that the characters were silly, especially the "black dressed karate man with a strange knights visor who doesn't talk."
WTF!?! how can they continue to hire people for this movie who have no respect for the material. he isn't a karate man, he is a ninja! and it isn't that he doesn't talk, he is mute! GOOODDD! Hollywood is so stupid and destroying G.I. Joe with people who know nothing about it! this movie is going to suck! why couldn't they hire grips who know and respect it's history!
Dude, a grip is basically a cameraman or lighting guy, right? What do they care about the material for a film they're working on? They only care about if the lighting is good, if the camera is white balanced properly or if the framing is correct for the shot.
If you were a cameraman on some Sandra Bullock romantic comedy, would you give a crap about the plot?
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 04:07 PM
Geez...I'll admit GI Joe isn't Shakespeare, but...jeez. I act in Direct-To-Video Indie action flicks, and I don't approach what I do with that attitude.
It's not enough to ruin the flick...yet, but hearing that really is a kick in the pants. If acted properly, The Baroness could earn a spot as one of moviedom's greatest femme fatales. She's a bad ass character. I REALLY worry about the accent. I really hope she doesn't come off sounding like Natasha (of Rocky and Bullwinkle fame). My personal casting choice for her has always been Famke Janssen...
Did she say she's not going to act?
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 04:12 PM
The quote sounds like she is having a lot of fun with this film. No one casted in this are doing it for the oscars. They are having fun, plain and simple.
If I make custom figures, am i stressing myself out to the point of pulling a Ledger? No, I'm having a lot of fun. If I have fun at that, why can't an actor have a lot of fun with their role, a gun toting hottie with some Jackie-O's on.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 04:16 PM
why couldn't they hire grips who know and respect it's history!
You obviously have no idea about how the film industry works! That statement is silly.
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 04:17 PM
Dude, a grip is basically a cameraman or lighting guy, right? What do they care about the material for a film they're working on? They only care about if the lighting is good, if the camera is white balanced properly or if the framing is correct for the shot.
If you were a cameraman on some Sandra Bullock romantic comedy, would you give a crap about the plot?
Could you see them handing out questionaires down to the caterers about how they like the material?
Question 36:
Do you find Sandra Bullock's character pretending to be the fiance of a comatose man who she never met to be realistic or silly?
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 04:20 PM
I've seen better girls at a bar a two in the morning.
Come on, if you are going to make a valid point then make it. Don't come across as being ignorant!
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 04:28 PM
Geez...I'll admit GI Joe isn't Shakespeare, but...jeez. I act in Direct-To-Video Indie action flicks, and I don't approach what I do with that attitude.
Maybe you should? No offense to you or your Direct to Video career, but she is a well known actress in a 170-Million dollar projected film. I think whatever she is doing ~ is working quite well for her! I don't see how you approach indie films is relevant to her very successful movie career.
She really sounds like she is having fun. Most of the cast at this point have said something "Offensive" to us. Who cares, get over it! Harrison Ford for years has down played how "Silly" Star Wars was, is. William Shatner the same thing for Star Trek. The simple truth is this ~ it is a movie based partially on a fifty year old toy line, with a pinch of the comics, cartoons and 80's toys all thrown into the mix. This is not Schindler's List!
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 04:33 PM
Dude, a grip is basically a cameraman or lighting guy, right? What do they care about the material for a film they're working on? They only care about if the lighting is good, if the camera is white balanced properly or if the framing is correct for the shot.
If you were a cameraman on some Sandra Bullock romantic comedy, would you give a crap about the plot?
for the same reason an actor doesn't have to know, care or respect the history of G.I. Joe to portray the characters within the pages of the script which are their own entities that simply share some characteristics with those characters past representations. it is as arbitrary as a grip caring about the history as well.
perhaps I should have included the sarcasm code in my prior post.
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 04:35 PM
You obviously have no idea about how the film industry works! That statement is silly.
wow, I thought you would be able to identify that is was supposed to sound silly.
Griffin73
04-27-2008, 04:39 PM
Ignorant about women in Hollywood is something I'm not. I know enough about the industry to know that they hire more for name than talent, and that's what they did here. Most people on this site have no idea how things in the industry work. Casting can be specific, it can take into account peoples perception about the subject matter before the casting has been secured. Look at Harrison Ford, he really wanted to be Han Solo.
I don't think she has ever seen or read a GI Joe Comic and is that so strange? No. But to do some research would be nice. Respectful of the fans would be a plus in my book.
Caliburn, sir...you are the ignorant one!
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Maybe you should? No offense to you or your Direct to Video career, but she is a well known actress in a 170-Million dollar projected film. I think whatever she is doing ~ is working quite well for her! I don't see how you approach indie films is relevant to her very successful movie career.
She really sounds like she is having fun. Most of the cast at this point have said something "Offensive" to us. Who cares, get over it! Harrison Ford for years has down played how "Silly" Star Wars was, is. William Shatner the same thing for Star Trek. The simple truth is this ~ it is a movie based partially on a fifty year old toy line, with a pinch of the comics, cartoons and 80's toys all thrown into the mix. This is not Schindler's List!
and Harrison Ford had no career prior and is the only decent thing to come out of that pile.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 04:44 PM
wow, I thought you would be able to identify that is was supposed to sound silly.
You can now play it off how you want. But I'm obviously not the only one who took it as you coming across as being ignorant to the movie business. But if you were trying to be witty(?) it was lost in translation.
Shogi
04-27-2008, 04:45 PM
for the same reason an actor doesn't have to know, care or respect the history of G.I. Joe to portray the characters within the pages of the script which are their own entities that simply share some characteristics with those characters past representations. it is as arbitrary as a grip caring about the history as well.
perhaps I should have included the sarcasm code in my prior post.
Yeah man, the sarcasm code woulda helped :D Sorry, I thought you were being serious
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 04:46 PM
Respectful of the fans would be a plus in my book.
and how exactly has she been disrespectful of the fans? by not taking the subject matter as serious as some of you? if that is the case, you are simply to sensitive and defensive of G.I. Joe, and you really shouldn't be.
I find it hypocritical that it be expected that she "respect" the fans when a lot fans in this thread have been nothing but disrespectful of her. remember, we are the one's obsessed with this material, but someone else not being in no way, shape, or form reflects anything negative about them. in fact, most reasonable people would probably believe it is the other way around.
the "respect" card is just a way for people to pass the buck on behavior.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 04:50 PM
Ignorant about women in Hollywood is something I'm not. I know enough about the industry to know that they hire more for name than talent, and that's what they did here. Most people on this site have no idea how things in the industry work. Casting can be specific, it can take into account peoples perception about the subject matter before the casting has been secured. Look at Harrison Ford, he really wanted to be Han Solo.
I don't think she has ever seen or read a GI Joe Comic and is that so strange? No. But to do some research would be nice. Respectful of the fans would be a plus in my book.
Caliburn, sir...you are the ignorant one!
Oh, So Harrison Ford read a book on Star Wars? This of course happened prior to going into the audition, right? NO!
Harrison Ford was / is an actor and wanted a part in a film. Same thing with Sienna Miller for GI Joe. They do not need prior knowledge to play a character that has never been played by anyone before.
As far as the women of Hollywood, you are now coming across as that guy who says he has a girlfriend but wont say her name. Only that we wouldn't know her. Whatever you say. If you have your finger on the pulse when it comes to the women of Hollywood, good for you.
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 04:52 PM
You can now play it off how you want. But I'm obviously not the only one who took it as you coming across as being ignorant to the movie business. But if you were trying to be witty(?) it was lost in translation.
it's not playing anything off, my criticism of those criticizing the movie has established that I wouldn't now take up their ridiculous arguments as well.
yes, I'm backtracking because you took it literally. get over yourself.
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Ignorant about women in Hollywood is something I'm not. I know enough about the industry to know that they hire more for name than talent, and that's what they did here. Most people on this site have no idea how things in the industry work. Casting can be specific, it can take into account peoples perception about the subject matter before the casting has been secured. Look at Harrison Ford, he really wanted to be Han Solo.
I don't think she has ever seen or read a GI Joe Comic and is that so strange? No. But to do some research would be nice. Respectful of the fans would be a plus in my book.
Caliburn, sir...you are the ignorant one!
Like Ben Affleck as Daredevil.
He understood and loved the subject matter.
Also, there was no Han Solo before Harrison Ford, an out of work actor, wanted the role. He only existed on a crappy script. HF only acted like himself.
The Baroness is a maniacal gun toting hottie with a bad accent that I love. I don't want "Atonement". And in your own words, they hire on name.
The industry is driven by talented actors and hot actresses with no talent. That's why year in, year out, it's been films dominated by male actors that have gotten the creds and in most cases the women can barely even get supporting actress consideration because their roles are merely filler eye candy roles. Note, these films aren't action blockbusters either. While I think this is stupid, it's not going to be any different for GI Joe....
...on another note. Since when is Famke Jansen considered a good actress?
GI Guppy the third
04-27-2008, 05:03 PM
and how exactly has she been disrespectful of the fans? by not taking the subject matter as serious as some of you? if that is the case, you are simply to sensitive and defensive of G.I. Joe, and you really shouldn't be.
I find it hypocritical that it be expected that she "respect" the fans when a lot fans in this thread have been nothing but disrespectful of her. remember, we are the one's obsessed with this material, but someone else not being in no way, shape, or form reflects anything negative about them. in fact, most reasonable people would probably believe it is the other way around.
the "respect" card is just a way for people to pass the buck on behavior.
That was good and I wish I had said it. Props to you
Effects of Silence
04-27-2008, 05:11 PM
This movie is geared towards teenagers. The whole point is to get teenager boys hyped up about violence and hot chicks. I personally hated Shia and Megan in Transformers. If I hadn't completely disregarded their characters while watching the movie I would have vomitted. I think that if the movie was geared towards a younger audience it would be a lot cooler just like the cartoon was. That was the biggest problem with Transformers to me; it was geared towards a super-hormonal age group instead of a younger or older age group who may have been more interested in 'cool' characters. It's kind of like the direction that videogames have gone in over the years. If there's one thing that the 90s did it was raise the target audience age for the media.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 05:13 PM
it's not playing anything off, my criticism of those criticizing the movie has established that I wouldn't now take up their ridiculous arguments as well.
yes, I'm backtracking because you took it literally. get over yourself.
I already said that it was lost in translation, and Shoqi agreed to the confusion as well. What more do you want me to say. I am not going to apologize for your remarks.
But if you want to just argue I am sure we can find a more grown up thing to discuss and debate? If not lets leave it as a misunderstanding.
Also Sorry to inform you I don't put much thought into your prior postings or any ones for that matter. So what side of the fence you play on is not important to me. I address post for post.
And lastly, I will not get over myself............I love myself to much to ever do that...........LOL..........we all should!
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 05:30 PM
And lastly, I will not get over myself............I love myself to much to ever do that...........LOL..........we all should!
don't worry, we all do love you.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 05:42 PM
Sending the love right back at ya...........
gunslingercbr
04-27-2008, 06:04 PM
another thing that is being forgotten in this whole ridiculous respecting the role nonsense, is that Sienna Miller accepted the role for one reason -- Sienna Miller. the chick is what, 5'5", 100lbs? this is probably the one and only opportunity that she will ever get to not only be in a big action movie, but not have to play some frail damsel in distress and instead scratch, claw, fight, carry weapons that crumple Humvees with one shot, and essentially be larger than life.
regardless of whether she cares about G.I. Joe or the Baroness, I am sure she is excited to perform in such a role that she would never get to do otherwise, and I'm sure part of the appeal was because it didn't require a lot of acting (in comparison to roles) and instead aloud her to have fun. yes, we know, having fun is the equivalent to not caring about the material to some of you.
before she got this role, the only thing I knew about Sienna Miller is that she used to play Jude Law's meat whistle. she is going to get exposure from this movie she couldn't have gotten anywhere else save for winning an academy award, so I am confident she isn't simply dismissive of the project as some of you would like to make her out to be just because her life isn't as wrapped up in whether the Baroness wipes her ass with her left or right hand as some of you.
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Outside the meat whistle being a vulgar and immature comment(LOL.....sorry Gunslinger, I could not resist) I do agree with you 100%.
Now in fairness to Sienna Miller, she has knocked it out of the ballpark on several of her performances, Alfie, Interview, Layer Cake and not to mention Factory Girl. But she has not achieved the real golden crown of Hollywood....not an Oscar, but ...... a huge mainstream hit.
A hit that raises her asking price and stature in Tinseltown. So I agree I cannot believe that she would go into this with her eyes closed, ignorant and blase about GI Joe. The potential target audience is going to be the coveted male demographic of 18-35. And that demographic brings girlfriends and wives to the movies. And what do they want to see, guns, Tits, ass and Violence. They (the producers of GI Joe) are the looking for the Grand Theft auto crowd. The same crowd that will be clawing for the game this weekend. That is what they want first and foremost.
If they get kids ~ great. families ~ why not. young woman ~ whatever, as long as they bring their boyfriends. But they cannot survive without that "GTA" crowd! we know this and Sienna Miller knows this. So she is playing it up. selling the movie on what will attract that young, hip crowd.
Compulsive Collector
04-27-2008, 06:40 PM
perhaps I should have included the sarcasm code in my prior post. Apparently so...
Look, Nic Cage was all pumped about playing Johnny Blaze, took it very seriously, knew a ton about the character and continuity, and Ghost Rider sucked out loud. None of that crap makes any difference. Michael Gambon basically walks onto a set and just plays whatever roles he happens to have landed as himself, so the idea that all actors approach their craft in the same manner, or require the same amount of research and preparation, is preposterous.
Crimson Guard 51
04-27-2008, 06:57 PM
I was out a club in Hollywood last night, and I heard a guy a few seats down snickering about how he was a grip on the G.I. Joe movie and that the characters were silly, especially the "black dressed karate man with a strange knights visor who doesn't talk."
WTF!?! how can they continue to hire people for this movie who have no respect for the material. he isn't a karate man, he is a ninja! and it isn't that he doesn't talk, he is mute! GOOODDD! Hollywood is so stupid and destroying G.I. Joe with people who know nothing about it! this movie is going to suck! why couldn't they hire grips who know and respect it's history!
funny.
fictitious, but funny.
the idea though is valid. it's why i think they'll have a hard time with the teenage audience...the cheese factor.
best to stick to the hard core and kiddies in my opinion.
doesn't mean some guns, t&a won't be appreciated.
Steel Brigade
04-27-2008, 07:19 PM
T & A for the WIN!! LOL!!
I think???
Caliburn
04-27-2008, 07:29 PM
The hardcore and kiddies will not ensure a sequel. They must ~ MUST get the teenage crowd. There is no way around it.
Griffin73
04-27-2008, 11:09 PM
To get the Teenage crowd Megan Fox should have been in this movie too.
Crimson Guard 51
04-28-2008, 12:36 AM
Maybe you should? No offense to you or your Direct to Video career, but she is a well known actress in a 170-Million dollar projected film. I think whatever she is doing ~ is working quite well for her! I don't see how you approach indie films is relevant to her very successful movie career.
She really sounds like she is having fun. Most of the cast at this point have said something "Offensive" to us. Who cares, get over it! Harrison Ford for years has down played how "Silly" Star Wars was, is. William Shatner the same thing for Star Trek. The simple truth is this ~ it is a movie based partially on a fifty year old toy line, with a pinch of the comics, cartoons and 80's toys all thrown into the mix. This is not Schindler's List!
i would argue that is a movie based on a toyline from the 80's with a pinch of the rest thrown in. the characters used came from the 80's being the reason for that.
Crimson Guard 51
04-28-2008, 12:42 AM
The hardcore and kiddies will not ensure a sequel. They must ~ MUST get the teenage crowd. There is no way around it.
i understand, but i see that as a tough sell.
gi joe was a more pre-teen product in its hey day.
BUT...i think making Snake Eyes French will do the trick.
seeing Sienna Miller in tight clothes certainly won't guarantee it. IMO.
tile_mcgillus
04-28-2008, 12:50 AM
It is horrifying what a popwerful market share teenagers have become at the cinemas. No one goes anymore because of them. So the studios have to cater to them.
MAJOR WOLF
04-28-2008, 01:24 AM
To get the Teenage crowd Megan Fox should have been in this movie too.
Yuck! I just do not see the appeal of Megan Fox. Sorry!
MAJOR WOLF
04-28-2008, 01:25 AM
It is horrifying what a popwerful market share teenagers have become at the cinemas. No one goes anymore because of them. So the studios have to cater to them.
That is just Sad..........
Crimson Guard 51
04-28-2008, 02:01 AM
i make a motion, we all collect enough money and put a hit out on her.
that'll teach her.
ok, really.
is it worth this much? for all we know she could have been drunk...or heading to a 'pie' tossing contest...who knows.
let's wait and see if she makes other stupid comments.
i hope she does well. cause that's who we've got.
Phorpus
04-28-2008, 02:12 AM
The movie was cast with teen-bait actors (One Tree Hibgwaghhgaag), the director directed The Mummy series, Dennis Quaid, and two of the actors have said that this film is just a mindless romp.
Not all that surprised with what she said to be honest.
This movie is not going to be Black Hawk Down, it's going to be a neat action flick to see with a couple of friends.
CharIJoe
04-28-2008, 02:40 AM
The actual baroness character from the comics was to smart and sophisticated to be about tits and ass anyday. if that quote is real i find it very insulting.
yeah, the quote is real, it was on my phones cnn news entertainment headline.
the stories title was "Sienna Miller raises next years tent pole"
Crimson Guard 51
04-28-2008, 02:58 AM
i seriously had never heard of her until she was cast for this movie.
i was excited when i heard she was working hard for the part.
i'm going to choose to see the positive in her, and hope this was just someone opening mouth...inserting foot.
Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja
04-28-2008, 03:08 AM
......
Why must Hollywood continue to disappoint us?
Crimson Guard 51
04-28-2008, 03:11 AM
live your life, man, it's just a movie.
come on here...vent...maybe they'll listen and change things that won't hurt their story or bottom line. maybe they won't.
it's all you can do.
trying to see the good in a situation helps.
Caliburn
04-29-2008, 12:34 PM
well said!
gijoevscobra4ever
04-29-2008, 12:45 PM
She's a very classy lady. I totally see why they picked her...
The movie is going to win an academy award.
Amaury Sanderson
04-29-2008, 01:39 PM
Sorry to say that, but she is far too young and immature to play the deadly Baroness. I think she has not even read the classic marvel stories to understand where to go.
cappeca
04-29-2008, 02:41 PM
If I was another actor in the movie I'd punch her in the face.
gijoevscobra4ever
04-29-2008, 02:47 PM
She totally dissed Pittsburgh while filming Factory Girl. She dissed the city to a local interviewer. It got out and she had her butt handed to her.
I think she needs to wake up and smell what she's shoveling. She is hardly all that or talented to be that kind of a jerk.
Caliburn
04-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Well she landed the biggest female lead in a 170million dollar projected film called: GI Joe. Soooo someone in Hollywood likes her!
SGT. Mutt
04-29-2008, 02:51 PM
what did she say, my company has blocked the link? everyones reactions has me curious...
GI Flow
04-29-2008, 03:30 PM
Sweet! T n A and lots of guns! This is how an action movie should be. And GI Joe should be an action movie.
Damn, so many of you seem like your lives are ruined. Chill out guys. For all we know she was being sarcastic, or exagerating. Shit, if the movie has alot of T n A is that really something bad? No one complained about megan fox in Transformers or the hot aussie chick.
The acting is horrible in ALL our nerdy movies. From Transformers to star wars to xmen to lord of the rings. Who gives a shit? As long as its fun!
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