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Crimson Rage

04-19-2008, 08:22 AM

The 'power suits' are just ONE uniform for the movie Joes - As such, I'm happy with them.

We've already seen HAWK in his non-combat uniform and DUKE in civvies. As the black suits only seem to come in to play in the latter part of the movie, we have plenty of screen time to fill with other uniforms & styles.

Unlike the TRANSFORMERS film were putting the actual robots on screen cost a fortune, the Joes (or Cobras) are actors and will be on screen for the majority of the film. Plenty of scope for a few wardrobe changes.

Lt. Faceless

04-19-2008, 09:46 AM

Too xman for me!

I with you on this one.My biggest gripe so far would be SS having a sidearm.Even my 5 year old knows SS doesn't use guns.

tkprime

04-19-2008, 10:02 AM

It has a very "Black-Ops" feel to it, Overall I'm happy......(I really like the way StormShadow looks, very Devil's Due). I think everyone will like this movie, if what I've heard is true, this movie is the first of 3!

kilowatt

04-19-2008, 10:55 AM

Too xman for me!

This sums it up perfect for me. I don't really care though, I realize that they will have major changes.

Crimson Rage

04-19-2008, 11:00 AM

Beyond them being black, I don't see any X-MEN similarity at all. If anything, they remind me of the Sector Seven infantry forces from the TRANSFORMERS movie.

Syn3sthesia

04-19-2008, 11:12 AM

Im ok with uniformity since that is what the military is all about.

And that is why when I saw Xman I was like why are they all wearing black?

But when it comes to comic/superheroes uniformity in groups don't work too well for me.

Besides, black was what made Baroness and Snake Eyes stand out. You throw those outfits in the mix and those two characters seems to get lost in the mix of things.

GI Flow

04-19-2008, 11:33 AM

Tommy Arashikage was LRRP and was mean with an M-16 as well as having ninja skills. Besides, with SS it's not the weapons he uses...He is the weapon.

gunslingercbr

04-19-2008, 11:36 AM

somewhat satisfied. there is nothing bad about the suits, but they aren't spectacular either. I do think there should be some color to them, much like in Sigma 6 where each character had thei own colored highlights on the suits. I wonder if most of the disappointment with them has to do as much with just the concept of the Joes in "Sigma" suits as much as the designs themselves.

harkiri

04-19-2008, 11:49 AM

the only real change I would ask for is more color. snake eyes and storm shadow look great it base colors, but scarlett duke and ripcord need colors to make them more identifiable. then again, scarlett looks pretty identifiable for other reasons :P

Crimson Guard 51

04-19-2008, 12:38 PM

besides them looking like they're going scuba diving...they look ok.

supposedly they're only going to be in a few final scenes.

for them to all be wearing them for specific missions actually makes the movie MORE realistic, since that is how the real military is. by MORE realistic, i mean if you can get past the 'power suit' idea. i think most people can as long as they don't make them fly or something like that.

they looked ok to me. Yo Joe, or Go Joe, whatever...i'm going to cut the grass.

Magnus

04-19-2008, 12:50 PM

I kinda like them.

Griffin73

04-19-2008, 12:52 PM

95% percent bad. They look like Batman's costume rejects. My 4 year old son thought Hawk looked like Flint and keeps calling him Flint. I am very disappointed so far. No interest in seeing this movie if they keep going in this direction. I was really hoping for the best but they may have already lost me.
I forgave a lot for Transformers but I can't on this one.

It's too easy to get this right, all the great material is already written, just use it. But no...it looks like Hollywood is screwing up another great franchise possibility.

CobraBlue

04-19-2008, 01:00 PM

Its a Stephen Sommers flick so it should be good from an action stand-point. You can't expect Hollywood to get an adaptation right without giving a director complete control who is faithful to the comic/cartoon mythology. They believe doing it 100% like the comic will not grab the attention of mainstream. That's why we saw Bumble-Bee as a Camaro.

Costume-wise....I would have atleast done olive rather than black for these Sigma 6 power-suits. And I'm sorry, go look at Hawk and Covergirl's fatigues. The pants have "GI JOE" on them. That's like my old-school Gi Joe Halloween costume with the logo on it. Come on....

BOMBSHELLMIKE

04-19-2008, 01:11 PM

They will probably have different costumes throughout the movie. Upon review and listening to other 'Tankers concerns and comments, I think it will blow our minds, Remember kids, they never showed what Darth Vader looked like until the end of Jedi, and if I recall, they didn't show him in mags or trailers. So wait and see, They still havent showed us CC, Destro or Zartan yet. I may have jumped the gun and gave it a thumbs down here and there on previous threads, so I change my mind, it will be awesome:)

Griffin73

04-19-2008, 01:11 PM

Griff

04-19-2008, 01:33 PM

i gotta say that if they show them in regular duds and these black suits are just their final battle suits thats fine. I'm still not too pleased with marlon wayans being ripcord but that said so far not terrible but not spectacular either. we'll see when the movie hits.

Griffin73

04-19-2008, 01:53 PM

I bet you will be surprised with Marlon Wayans being Ripcord. I bet he pulls it off, no pun intended. I figure go in with low expectations at this point and maybe you enjoy it a little.

havoc

04-19-2008, 01:53 PM

when i first saw scarlett in the suit i was like ok this isn't too bad but then when i saw duke and ripcord i was like hell no!! this is a terrible idea but it's hollywood so i'm not surprised at all.

copywrite

04-19-2008, 03:22 PM

GI JOE logo in the camo. Bad Idea guys...who ever thought up that one should be taken out and shot. I don't mind the logo just do it right. On the side of the pants or on the sleeve.

Come on...first time costume designer flaws for sure.

I'll be honest, I didn't even notice the logo until someone mentioned it. Then I had to even zoom in to see it. It doesn't make the pants look bad because it isn't even noticeable.

Crimson Guard 51

04-19-2008, 03:43 PM

I bet you will be surprised with Marlon Wayans being Ripcord. I bet he pulls it off, no pun intended. I figure go in with low expectations at this point and maybe you enjoy it a little.

i might be one of the only people who doesn't have a problem with him playing ripcord. from what i can tell, they got the rest of his character right.

i hope the camo is un-noticable, as copywright said, cause if it isn't, the cheese factor will be up 10 X's...

Omegawrath

04-19-2008, 03:48 PM

i might be one of the only people who doesn't have a problem with him playing ripcord. from what i can tell, they got the rest of his character right.

i hope the camo is un-noticable, as copywright said, cause if it isn't, the cheese factor will be up 10 X's...

Yeah, in the grand scheme, having a black dude play Ripcord isn't a problem for me.

The problems start whee the more iconic aspects of the characters are lost.

If "The Commander" wears no mirror-mask OR hood, it's just not CC to me, regardless of how good the acting may be.

Crimson Guard 51

04-19-2008, 03:51 PM

Yeah, in the grand scheme, having a black dude play Ripcord isn't a problem for me.

The problems start whee the more iconic aspects of the characters are lost.

If "The Commander" wears no mirror-mask OR hood, it's just not CC to me, regardless of how good the acting may be.

get ready to be disappointed. i'm betting that the actors will be seen more w/o the mask or hood than with.

that's just my thinking that the studios will want the actors they're paying for to be seen.

i could be totally wrong.

STORM SHADOW

04-19-2008, 03:55 PM

I'm guessing this being sort of a "prequel", there might need to be a build-up before the masks and sigils come out.

Yeah, in the grand scheme, having a black dude play Ripcord isn't a problem for me.

It is big problem for me, especially since I really liked my Ripcord figure when i was a kid.

Crimson Guard 51

04-19-2008, 03:58 PM

I'm guessing this being sort of a "prequel", there might need to be a build-up before the masks and sigils come out.

no doubt. i still think they'll be more w/o than with in the third installment.

i think it might have been better to do a 'godfather' trilogy model with GI Joe.

1st movie, regular GI Joe vs Cobra
2nd movie, same, but go back, showing how it started.
3rd movie, finale.

or as snake eyes would say, cause he can talk now, fini'.

Viper46

04-19-2008, 04:01 PM

most spoilers suck.

costumes suck ( snake eyes has a mouthpiece? )

plot we've heard sucks.

casting is ok, for the most part.

hey, you asked.

Crimson Guard 51

04-19-2008, 04:08 PM

what do you really think? don't hold back next time.

swafus

04-19-2008, 04:50 PM

GI JOE logo in the camo. Bad Idea guys...who ever thought up that one should be taken out and shot. I don't mind the logo just do it right. On the side of the pants or on the sleeve.

Come on...first time costume designer flaws for sure.

I think the logo being hidden in camouflage is an un-intentional metaphor for the fact that the G.I.JOE that we have all known and loved for 25 yrs. is being covered up and hidden by this movie.

Blegh!

swafus

04-19-2008, 04:53 PM

On opening weekend I'm going to be at home watching Predator, the Road Warrior, and Commando instead!

....Snake eyes talking = Optimus Prime as a clown car!

copywrite

04-19-2008, 05:12 PM

no.

MAJOR WOLF

04-19-2008, 05:44 PM

The Joes look more like SEALS. I wish they'd put on some colors too just like their action figures.

Me too. More Colors are needed!

Griffin73

04-19-2008, 06:05 PM

SEALS from a Batman movie directed by Joel "I'm flaming" Schumacher. The suits suck! Plus that trick has already been done in X-Men. And it worked there...but not here.

Military outfits don't look like Vac-u-pak'd Carbon fiber. They looks like something from a Vanity Fair fashion shoot by Annie Leibovitz instead of the hardcore Special-Ops unit fatigues they are supposed to be.

Crimson Rage

04-20-2008, 10:08 AM

Taking the TRANSFORMERS movie as an example - Whenever I come across someone who hated the Micheal Bay movie (I loved it, by the way), I ask them this question:
Envisage in your minds' eye the exact same film (same direction, same dialogue.. everything!) but with Generation 1 styled characters in it instead of the movie robots. Now, would they have liked the film instead of hating it?
Every single one so far has said "yes" they would still hate the film.

This suggests to me that the designs didn't play as big a roll as some people insisted they would before the film was released, and maybe we should be applying the same way of thinking to GI JOE.
Basic black uniforms for a military organisation of the near future is hardly a strecth (especially since the suits are not worn all the time, it would seem), and I certainly don't think they can be construed as the 'wrong direction' for a film that ultimately, we know so little about. The direction, tone and performances seen in the movie will, for me, determine how true to GI JOE it is.

smokehouse

04-20-2008, 10:21 AM

You're kind of comparing apples to oranges with the TF-vs-Joe comparison.

With TF having Gen 1 vehicles would look out of place figuring they were based on cars that are now a minimum of 20 years old...

Joe stuff is a bit different. Part of what made Joe unique IS the different uniforms. The fact that GI Joe is a stand along organization made of individuals with different backgrounds/skills/etc. Each dressed differently, there was no one "Joe uniform". This washing over is not a good thing...having standard black boring uniforms is going to take something away form the individual characters...

The Baroness and Storm Shadow are just plain lame. What is this...the Matrix?

http://www.andrewcollins.com/pics/twins.jpg

If they were going to keep a somewhat close to the toy design for Snake Eyes...why not Storm Shadow? An outfit like that is 100% wrong for his character. Storm Shadow in the cartoon/comics would never show his face in public and not in a white suit either...

And the lack of the Cobra insignia is not a good thing...

Basically these picture speak volumes. This is going to be the taste of GI Joe...but without all the calories. It will resemble what we know but in the end, like the TF movie, have all the right names but with everything else changed to the point where it is unrecognizable.

Crimson Rage

04-20-2008, 10:34 AM

Transformer fans said the same thing. "MEGATRON isn't MEGATRON without his arm cannon & bucket head"and such like. The average movie-goer didn't know MEGATRON from a hole in the ground, but still got the sense of an evil, relentless leader from the film design.

I like to think of these JOE costumes as an "Ultimate GI JOE" re-interpretation. Translating established looks that work in comics and cartoons to the real world environment isn't as cut & dried as we tend to think.

GI Guppy the third

04-20-2008, 10:47 AM

Hawk reminds me of Escape from New York. I mean he's wearing a motorcycle leather jacket. Why?

SS is okay but I would have preferred a little more traditional ninja and less International Male.

The accellerator suits look horrible. If the military designed anything like that, they wouldn't design it to mimic the body's muscle. They aren't about making fashion statements, they're about making usable equipment. The suits would have some sort of covering of real, loose fatigues that blend into enviroments better. Scarlet always wore tight fitting clothing so I guess I'm not as against that but Duke and Ripcord look stupid.

Also, I want the baroness to wear eye glasses and not those Jackie Os

GI Guppy the third

04-20-2008, 10:51 AM

Loki41872

04-20-2008, 11:11 AM

The soldiers in Transformers would have been perfect for G.I. Joe.

I've decided that Transformers is going to be as close as we get to a live action G.I. Joe movie.

I'll watch this "Sommers-Vision Version" on the Sci-Fi channel.

crock master

04-20-2008, 11:54 AM

just like transformers, the movie should take place in the 80's. this isnt the future. and even if it was the future our military personel still woulnt dress in fashon. in the 80's it was all about camo and guns.

Shin Densetsu

04-20-2008, 08:11 PM

just like transformers, the movie should take place in the 80's.
The Transformers movie didn't take place in the 80s. Neither did the G1 cartoon....

I like the texture and patterns on Storm Shadow's jacket(have to look up close), but I still want to see a mask and white accelerator suit that is iconic looking.

Omegawrath

04-20-2008, 08:43 PM

I think the logo being hidden in camouflage is an un-intentional metaphor for the fact that the G.I.JOE that we have all known and loved for 25 yrs. is being covered up and hidden by this movie.

Blegh!

Wow.

That was kind of profound!

Omegawrath

04-20-2008, 08:44 PM

get ready to be disappointed. i'm betting that the actors will be seen more w/o the mask or hood than with.

that's just my thinking that the studios will want the actors they're paying for to be seen.

i could be totally wrong.Let me clarify.

I don't mind seeing them unmasked. That's been done. What I mind is seeing the WRONG mask.

J4Joker

04-20-2008, 09:46 PM

I'm not liking what I'm seeing at all. If there are more costumes, than fine; after all, what's wrong with military uniforms and camouflage?

I'll be disappointed if Storm Shadow doesn't show up in something close to his iconic outfit, if only for a bit or a nod to the fans.

Very interested in seeing how CC and Destro are handled.

For the movie overall, I'm not getting an X-Men vibe as much as I'm getting a Mortal Kombat one.

Amaury Sanderson

04-21-2008, 08:09 AM

It seems Stormy is clothed as Amidala in Episode II. Even the gun is the same. I hope Zartan will not be wearing the suit of a Jedï...

VIPER 48

04-21-2008, 08:20 AM

Too xman for me!

Same here. But in all honesty, i don't really care anymore. I will watch the movie and if it is good, i will buy it on dvd. If it sucks, oh well, at least i saw it once...

FreddyTV

04-21-2008, 09:22 AM

If they like the GI Joe concept for a movie fine...grab the concept, make whatever type of movie you want, dress them however you want BUT don't call it GI Joe. Having them all dressed in black takes away from the whole look and feel that made those characters who they were. Atleast have something that resembles they costumes the wore. Whatever!

We can bitch and complain all we want but realistically from the looks of things they all are going to be wearing lame, boring black costumes.

Here are some ideas for the GI Joe movie creative team:
Give Shipwreck an iguana instead of a parrot, Un-mask Snake Eyes and give him his speech back, make Roadblock a white dude, Cobra Commander doesn't really need a hood over his head, Destro with a chrome mask? For what? Give the Destro part to a good looking young actor so he can draw in the teenage girls.

Its not fair to take something so iconic and destroying it in hopes of appealing to a wider audience. They should have faith in the fact that what got the attention of thousands of kids in the 80s will have the same effect in todays day.

Again if they want to make a movie similar to what GI Joe was, go right ahead, just don't call it GI Joe because the direction they are taking is not GI Joe.

FYI these are my personal opinions. Im just speaking my mind so keep the smart comments to yourself. You don't have to tell me how my complaining is not going to make a difference, I know that. I'm just venting.

Amaury Sanderson

04-21-2008, 09:38 AM

I agree, and they can call the movie IMPOSSIBLE MATRIX-MEN MISSION... instead of using the world we defend.

Loki41872

04-21-2008, 12:43 PM

Just in case some haven't seen it...

Watch this, and then continue with the argument that putting the characters in their original costumes would have looked stupid.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4277

Golobulous

04-21-2008, 12:59 PM

i am really not into movie discussion that much but i will say this, when they tried to "update" the toy line ala spy troops or VvV or even sigma six, moderate to low overal success in sales, when they went back to the iconic original costumes for the characters in the 25th line sales through the roof, can't keep them in stock, demand far superceading the supply, some things just are what they are and don't need so called "updating" to make them a big success. i know this has been said before but "SPIDERMAN" did not need a new suped up outfit to be a huge hit, nor did "BATMAN". original iconic outfits always sell because they are part of what make the characters recognizable to even the casual fan.

gdztoyz

04-21-2008, 01:40 PM

First off, I'm going to say that seeing the costumes, I'm not blown away, but I'm intrigued.

Ripcord - was a surprise for me. Marlon Wayans is actually looking pretty hardcore. I don't know why they made him Ripcord,though he looks convincing enough to be Stalker, IMO.

Scarlett - Love it or hate it, there was no way her cartoon/toy/comic costume was making it into the flick. You got yellow threads, your costume's getting changed...Just ask Wolverine. She looks great, I can't complain.

Storm Shadow - If he ends up wearing a mask, fine, if not, it's not going to wreck the whole movie, and it's not the end of the world. He looks pretty tight, and it should be a great visual up against Snake Eyes.

Baroness - Looks okay, but honestly, I've seen ladies at the conventions with better Baroness outfits...and what's up with the shades? Her classic look with the glasses kinda add to her appeal, honestly. I'm hoping this one's just a preliminary outfit.

* as far as Baroness and Storm Shadow both go, I sure hope they get the Cobra emblem on their outfits at some point in the flick. No one's going to sell me on the fact that "It would'nt work in a movie". There's NO way Habro could pass up selling merchandise with a movie Cobra logo!

Duke - Meh... He's okay, just plain. He's trying to look hard, but he just doesn't scream Duke yet.

Hawk - You know I casted Quaid in my own idea of a Joe flick (as well as Ray Park for Snake Eyes), So I'm glad he's the General, he looks great. The outfit, just like everyone's said is a little too Flint, but honestly, you think they're gonna cover up one of their few big name actor's head with a helmet...uh-uh. He looks the part though, I'm happy.

Cover Girl - Kinda weak...just a hottie in camo. I'm hoping she doesn't have a big role, and then I'll be satisfied.

Snake Eyes - I think he's pretty tight, what I'd expect a movie Snake Eyes to look like. The lips on the costume are probably to allow him to emote, and hell, they're on his classic version '85 figure, so what's the big deal?

Overall, I'm okay with what I'm seeing, the fanboy in me wishes we could see Duke in his traditional outfit (which wouldn't be hard), as well as others, at least for a scene or two. I kinda figured they would be wearing armor of some sort. First off, it's a big Hollywood production, they need to sell action figures (Oh God...all the Night Ops/SWAT/Night Force customs...), and second it would only make sense in battle.

I'm going to hold my judgement of the flick, probably until the first FULL trailer comes out. As it stands, it's looking okay.

gunslingercbr

04-21-2008, 01:43 PM

know this has been said before but "SPIDERMAN" did not need a new suped up outfit to be a huge hit, nor did "BATMAN". original iconic outfits always sell because they are part of what make the characters recognizable to even the casual fan.
but Batman did get a brand new outfit, and does with nearly every movie.

tile_mcgillus

04-21-2008, 02:05 PM

I am happy with them. To me they are reminiscent of the original joe costumes. They look more like a unit this way and less like a rainbow coalition. I can totally see why some hate them though.

SnakeMoe

04-21-2008, 02:17 PM

very disappointed. Should of went with what the figures look like. Other then the names whats the key. Reasons each joe was different from uniform and personality. Now looks like X-men. Come on.

RolandofGilead

04-21-2008, 02:59 PM

I have no problem with these really. I think Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Baroness are close enough to their iconic looks to please me. The black uniforms do look X-menish, but I never expected to see them in their cartoon style clothes. I much prefer one of the photo-shopped Scarletts with the bit of comic color added for flavor, but it's not a deal breaker for me where the movie is concerned. If I had one complaint about this movie, it's only that I have to wait until NEXT YEAR to see it.

Compulsive Collector

04-21-2008, 03:10 PM

nor did "BATMAN". Which Batman comics were you reading where his suit looked anything like those in the movies?

The new costumes are fine. I need to see Destro, Cobra Commander, and Zartan before I begin to panic.

CynthiaCM

04-21-2008, 06:03 PM

I'm somewhat happy with the costumes, Storm Shadow aside. I'm not overwhelmed by any means. I was hoping to get goosebumps upon seeing the costumes for the first time (like I did with Spider-Man's costume), but that didn't happen at all.

I do place my hopes in the rumor that the black costumes aren't the characters' only costumes. They are functional, but lacking in distinction.

I understand that copying the comicbook costumes verbatim may not translate well to the big screen, but I do hope the movie costumes are, at some point, reminiscent of the originals. Stripping them completely of their visual identities would be like putting Superman or Spider-Man in unrecognizable costumes. At least the two aforementioned flicks had the decency to not take a dump all over the characters' appearances. I can only hope that GI Joe follows in their footsteps, as the costumes are a big part of who the characters are.

copywrite

04-21-2008, 08:54 PM

i know this has been said before but "SPIDERMAN" did not need a new suped up outfit to be a huge hit, nor did "BATMAN". original iconic outfits always sell because they are part of what make the characters recognizable to even the casual fan.
Did you see Goblin in Spider-Man? We've all heard it before, he looked like a power ranger villain. Also, Spider-Man never had web actually come out of his wrists in the comics, nor did he get bit by a genetically altered super spider. They changed things, and it worked.

And it's been said a million times, but no one seems to listen. These costumes are used in one battle towards the end of the movie. This isn't Transformers where they're going to keep the same look throughout the whole movie. They're people, they'll have different clothes.

sharke

04-21-2008, 09:45 PM

I'm good with the costumes. wish they were camo (digital) instead of black but whatever. I like the way Stormshadow looks. I was impressed by the Wayans (as others have said) which I didn't think possible. they look like what they are a special ops unit some 10 years from now.

one last thing, Quaid looks like a badass. I could not be happier with that casting choice

Crimson Guard 51

04-21-2008, 10:22 PM

Did you see Goblin in Spider-Man? We've all heard it before, he looked like a power ranger villain. Also, Spider-Man never had web actually come out of his wrists in the comics, nor did he get bit by a genetically altered super spider. They changed things, and it worked.

you're not hinting that the changes are one of the reasons that the Spiderman movie was a hit are you?

his webs came out of the same general vicinity as in the comics...had the webs come out of his ass like a real spiders, then there would have been problems.

the comics had a radiated spider ( could have altered his DNA at the point of being radiated i guess ) and the movie had a genetically alterred on. once again, not big difference. had the movie had Spiderman being a MUTANT, again, BIG difference.

that being said, the costumes will be changed in the movie, i am assuming, and it would make sense to do so.

i really don't have a problem, but i gotta admit, i haven't seen them all. comp was having issues when i tried pulling them up. scarlett's is nice. : ), and i'm trying to get the wife a baroness outfit.

copywrite

04-22-2008, 02:13 AM

No, but it didn't hinder the experience either. I'm not trying to imply Spider-Man had big changes, but it wasn't perfect on paper either.

Crimson Guard 51

04-22-2008, 06:29 PM

No, but it didn't hinder the experience either. I'm not trying to imply Spider-Man had big changes, but it wasn't perfect on paper either.

what didn't hinder? the irradiated spider? the combining MJ and Gwen?

the last one was pretty big. the first, not as much. it was still from the spider.

those are small changes that people familiar with the series can understand.

this movie has made too many big changes, imo.

i wish someone would explain some of the larger ones for me. i must not be smart enough to understand.

Onslaught Six

04-25-2008, 02:11 PM

That's why we saw Bumble-Bee as a Camaro.

Actually, Bumblebee was a Camaro because Volkswagon doesn't want their vehicle being associated with a "war toyline." This was the same reason we never got Bumblebee as a New Beetle Alternator.

had the movie had Spiderman being a MUTANT, again, BIG difference.

This is actually something that really, really bothers me about Spiderman. What the hell makes him not a Mutant? I mean, I just don't see 'why.' Wolverine is a mutant, but his powers came because he had adamantium grafted to his skeleton. (90s retcons be damned.) It had nothing to do with how he was born or anything. So, er, yeah, explain that? Really, I just don't get it.

copywrite

04-26-2008, 02:06 AM

Actually, Bumblebee wasn't a Volkswagon because Michael Bay didn't think it was "cool" enough and thought it would be too much like Herbie the Love Bug. He even says so in the special features on the DVD.

cornbot

04-26-2008, 02:30 AM

they suck look like a b-rated straight to video movie. i have a feeling this movie is going to be totally sick or totally kiddy and corny. it's not going to be in the middle. hey but i'm a hardened collector. it takes alot to impress me. go figure

Amaury Sanderson

04-26-2008, 04:21 AM

MAJOR WOLF

04-26-2008, 04:22 AM

MAJOR WOLF

04-26-2008, 04:24 AM

Another problem is why they will use viper or neo viper troopers if the movie is based on the beginning of GI joe and Cobra. I'm afraid to see "High tech Stormtroopers Cobra" instead of the classic Cobra troopers ...

I fear that too... Why can they not just take the first couple ofcomic books and make the movie based on that...

SnAkEyEz

04-26-2008, 09:34 AM

Im sorry, but those black "suits" are really bad.. nothing about them is GI Joe... I bet if 20 people off this baord went in & designed the costumes for the movie, they would of came out perfect.. & at a fraction of the price they paid those hollywood bigshots to do it... They should of not changed them that drastically.. rather just make the old suits modern!!! & whats up with Snake Eyes, I mean I know on his v2 you could see his lips through the mask, but a full blown mouth!! lol .. wtf!!

copywrite

04-26-2008, 08:46 PM

That's Dumb!

Hey, I didn't say Michael Bay was smart. :O

Crimson Guard 51

04-26-2008, 09:02 PM

Another problem is why they will use viper or neo viper troopers if the movie is based on the beginning of GI joe and Cobra. I'm afraid to see "High tech Stormtroopers Cobra" instead of the classic Cobra troopers ...

great point. i never thought about that. maybe they'll explain it.

surely, SURELY someone involved has thought about it.

Crimson Guard 51

04-26-2008, 09:04 PM

This is actually something that really, really bothers me about Spiderman. What the hell makes him not a Mutant? I mean, I just don't see 'why.' Wolverine is a mutant, but his powers came because he had adamantium grafted to his skeleton. (90s retcons be damned.) It had nothing to do with how he was born or anything. So, er, yeah, explain that? Really, I just don't get it.

ok, i'll admit, i'm not a big X guy.

i thought that Wolverine was a mutant with the ability to 'heal' fast...which is why he SURVIVED the process of lining his skeleton with Adamantium.

or is that part of the retcon. i really don't know.

that's just the way i thought it was.

Shin Densetsu

04-27-2008, 02:57 AM

Wolverine is a mutant, but his powers came because he had adamantium grafted to his skeleton.
That had nothing to do with it, he had his healing factor beforehand, and his enhanced senses. His healing factor was the sole reason he was able to survive the adamantium bonding process.
or is that part of the retcon.
The retcon was that it turned out Wolverine had claws all along as part of his skeleton, bone claws. He didn't know this until he popped them out again after his adamantium was forcibly removed by Magneto, and his healing factor deteriorated. That was a minor retcon, and for the better, as it showed that he was more animal like than previously thought. The major retcon was the revelation that he was a born as a sickly child in the 1800's, and that his healing factor was both physical and mental. The reason his memories were not retained was because his mind would heal, and he would forget most of the painful memories. Until the House of M storyline which retconned everything and enabled him to remember everything he had forgotten.

Anyways I think we will see some more costume images as SDCC approaches, and think Storm Shadow and others will have better, more identifiable costumes. We've barely seen anything in all honesty.

MAJOR WOLF

04-27-2008, 08:50 AM

I am hoping that this movie turns out to be Good so that GI Joe can finally shine.

Amaury Sanderson

04-27-2008, 09:16 AM

It will be good enough to make us want a second GI joe movie, better than the first and surely more accurate to GI Joe Mythos (will said Mr Hama and Hasbro somewhere in 2010) .

lerath666

04-27-2008, 10:09 AM

As long as the "power suits" see minimal use in the film, i'm ok with them., But it does make me thing the costume designer has been playing FAR TOO MUCH HALO.

I absolutly LOATHE the "litte kid Jammies" that they're using for BDU's. There was no need to write GI JOE all over the Cammo.

I thought Snake-Eyes was Mute, so why is his mouth simply painted black, and he now has speaking parts?
He's a very Physical character who's actions speak volumes over words. Ray Parks a physical actor. would have worked out great. oh well . Also, the transparent Visor is....... odd?

Baroness Needs Glasses. Not Sunglasses, just regular, Black Glasses.

Storm Shadow actualy looks kinda neet, he has a definite Yakuza feel to him. Different direction for the character, but could be good. Just, Why tennis shoes? It ruins the look. It's one thing people screw up when Cosplaying alot. The wrong footwear can completely destroy an outfit. He needs either white ninja Tabi, or white, paten leather shoes. Tabi makes us feelhe's still a ninja and afford the BEST mobility. Leather shoes speak high-class vilain. Either would have been preferable.

If the other costume is infact accurate, it's kinda neet that hasbro is involving Mattel, and making it a cross-over movie. As a Kid I had my joes square off with Skeletor and Hordak all the time. I wonder which One of those two the new badguy is......

lerath666

04-27-2008, 10:11 AM

I am hoping that this movie turns out to be Good so that GI Joe can finally shine.

And if it Fails like a boat made of Swiss cheese carrying 200 tons of lead, Atleast, thanks to the Hulk Movie, we now have a hollywood premise of restarting a movie franchise From square one if the first one is a big flop.

Crimson Guard 51

04-28-2008, 12:51 AM

That had nothing to do with it, he had his healing factor beforehand, and his enhanced senses. His healing factor was the sole reason he was able to survive the adamantium bonding process.

The retcon was that it turned out Wolverine had claws all along as part of his skeleton, bone claws. He didn't know this until he popped them out again after his adamantium was forcibly removed by Magneto, and his healing factor deteriorated. That was a minor retcon, and for the better, as it showed that he was more animal like than previously thought. The major retcon was the revelation that he was a born as a sickly child in the 1800's, and that his healing factor was both physical and mental. The reason his memories were not retained was because his mind would heal, and he would forget most of the painful memories. Until the House of M storyline which retconned everything and enabled him to remember everything he had forgotten.

Anyways I think we will see some more costume images as SDCC approaches, and think Storm Shadow and others will have better, more identifiable costumes. We've barely seen anything in all honesty.

ok, so, basically i was right about the healing factor being the reason he was chosen for the adamantium stuff?

cool. really could care less about the other, but thanks.

not a big X Fan, as i stated. don't have time for too many hobbies.

rikkuluverx2

04-28-2008, 12:57 AM

i feel that the uniforms are okay, but i think they should have a little personality to them. Like in sigma 6, they were all a similar type of power suit, but they still maintained personality to them. but over all i think the ones in the movie should do it for me.

-rikkuluverx2

lerath666

04-28-2008, 02:50 AM

ii don't mind the power suits all looking the same, if they tried to indivisualize them too much, we'd end up with power rangers, and that would be bad.
Wolverine. If i remember the original weapon x storyline correctly, he was chosen at random, the team had tried several people, and none were survivng the bonding process. His healing factor was discovered by the project members AFTER they started the bonding process.

Bone claws. i though his body just grew them to replace the missing adamantium ones after they were tore out? he had them all along eh?

Shin Densetsu

04-28-2008, 03:04 PM

Bone claws. i though his body just grew them to replace the missing adamantium ones after they were tore out? he had them all along eh?
He had them all along, it surprises even him. Its in the issue where he decides to leave the X-Men.

flash70

04-29-2008, 12:33 AM

Too xman for me!

YUP you said it!!!

I really hope this movie works well...I just can't give it any faith as of right now and perhaps until I see the trailer.

mech-grunt

04-29-2008, 11:30 PM

Overall, I’m impressed. I have bin wanting to start collecting Joe again but did not like the rout it was going. The first time I seen the 25th Anniversary put me over the edge. I would like to more of the core troops dun first before v2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9……..

Ash Talon

04-30-2008, 04:06 AM

One one hand, I don't mind some unifying elements to the costumes.

On the other hand, good guys shouldn't be in all-black. The all-black look individualizes SE. Too bad , he doesn't stand out so much more.

Also, the bad guys will be wearing dark blue/close-to-black. Good guys and bad guys shouldn't be wearing similar outfits.

Finally, to those that say the original costumes would be too cheesy....which ones would be too cheesy in live action? Scarlett? Okay, I'll give you that one. Duke? He's got olive drab pants and a khaki shirt. Is that too cheesy? What about Ripcord? All greenland camo. Hawk? Greenland camo and a bomber jacket. I just don't understand saying that the original toy designs are outlandish, when most of them are based on real types of military clothing.

MAJOR WOLF

04-30-2008, 05:56 AM

I am Hoping this turns out to be a Good Movie...

richardthebrave

05-03-2008, 11:17 PM

Well the black suits are ok, but i am hoping that Lorenzo Bonaventura's promise in an interview with collider.com that it won't just be black suits for everyone (with the exception of Snake Eyes) and everyone will be seen in different suits besides from the power suits.

Amaury Sanderson

05-04-2008, 02:56 AM

It is very easy to use black color when you don't have any idea of what to do. GI Joe is exactly the opposite of this thought. When you use black everywhere (bad guy, good guy, vehicles) you simply ruin the whole thing.
In history of GI Joe, the use of black color means a very precise thing: the mystery of SE (forget the last issues of the comic). I really do not want that GI Joe become a MatriX-Men movie ... especially when the characters created by Mr Hama are so different and interessant.

BigErn

05-20-2008, 11:10 PM

I picked very satisfied, and I am, but there's always room for change. My gripes are minor and given time I'm sure all will be addressed.

Edit - Whoops, I didn't realize this was about the movie, sorry.

KSavage

05-27-2008, 11:40 AM

The Transformers movie didn't take place in the 80s. Neither did the G1 cartoon....

are we talking the Transformers G1 cartoon or GI Joe Cartoon?

because BOTH took place in the 80's. the Transformers MOVIE took place in 2005, with the following season being 2006.

the original transformers was contemporary to its time, which was around '83 - '84 i think. check my dates on that. the movie was supposed to be in the future.

i don't necessarily think that GI Joe should be based in the 80's ( just wanted to clear up an appearant error ).

i think the story is very good in that you can move it up. make the 'vietnam war' into the 'iraq war.' then you could keep pretty much everything else very much the same.

someone made a point that hollywood likes to create. i totally agree. they don't want to tell someone else's story, so they change some stuff. they don't have a background in the story, so some of it being changed to fit their world view might seem like a total heresy to some of us.

that would be the problem. you have people who don't care, or know, changing things that are big to the story.

i'd be anything that they didn't do any focus groups, etc, to check on changes. one person remembered GI Joe. he remembered that it was the army.

"hey, what if it was international, with people from everywhere? that would be better, and sell more tickets. "

"ok, sounds good."

"now, let's talk about the characters. what if we have the stereotypical 'hard ass' woman, and she gets hit on by the stereotypical best friend / hard ass, and then he gets her to show her softer side. . . that would be great."

Pimp Daddy Darklon

05-27-2008, 12:00 PM

I with you on this one.My biggest gripe so far would be SS having a sidearm.Even my 5 year old knows SS doesn't use guns.

Well, Stormshadow might have wisen up after watching the first Indiana Jones.

Echo7Solo

05-27-2008, 12:04 PM

I don't care who you are The Baroness looks hot. That costume is great!

Amaury Sanderson

05-27-2008, 01:25 PM

It seems it's the only one to look great at this time ... But hope is there !

uberthawk

07-11-2008, 05:31 AM

get it as close 2 the stuff we grew up w/ don't reHash it and make it sumtin it's not

Lt. Beezer

07-11-2008, 04:00 PM

delta

07-12-2008, 01:44 AM

Tommy Arashikage was LRRP and was mean with an M-16 as well as having ninja skills. Besides, with SS it's not the weapons he uses...He is the weapon.

Dang, You should handel Storm Shadows public Relations. You sound like Col. Trautman from the Rambo movies! lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VvBdhBJ9nlg&feature=related Storm Shadow could eat things that would make a billy goat Puke. He was the BEST! With guns,..with knives

Wylde Weezle

07-12-2008, 11:19 AM

Gungho-joe

07-12-2008, 11:43 AM

This might sound crazy but I like the look of the black "special ops" uniforms/gear. I watched the movie the rock with nicolas cage for the first time and liked the way the navy seals looked in it when they invaded alcatraz island. I think that might be what the producers are going for, a special branch of the military that operates outside the box and on its own. I personally cant wait for this movie. As long as Cobra Commander isnt wearing a hot pink uniform I will keep an open mind and anticipate this movie very much.

Snake eyes119

07-24-2008, 03:59 PM

stupid piece of crap that should never happen in a gijoe movie who the hell said hey lets give gijoe big black armored suits this isnt starship troopers

Snake eyes119

07-24-2008, 04:00 PM

get it as close 2 the stuff we grew up w/ don't reHash it and make it sumtin it's not

exactely wut i say wy even screw with the story and do all this gay crap

Snake eyes119

07-24-2008, 04:01 PM

I voted somewhat satisfied. I see it as a mashup of the Original 13 Joes from 1982 [the green shirt look] with Sigma Six. I'm basing this on the only pics I've seen so far of the two uniform types I've seen - the black combat suits and the camo uniforms Hawk and Cover Girl were wearing.

um this isnt sigma six witch by the way was the stupidest gijoe made its supposed to be like larry hamas comic not like a space movie

Snake eyes119

07-24-2008, 04:04 PM