View Full Version : Video: Joseph Levitt lets us down.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 04:08 PM
First, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4RYwl7fa0
Now, I don't know about you but I don't think comments like..
"I just didn't really care about anything"
"I put my all into other movies but just show up to GI Joe"
"You just kinda go...then watch it...then continue your day"
I am very very VERY let down by this actor. Even if he isn't a huge GI Joe fan.. you do NOT go onto television and inform the fanbase of a massive genre that you just kinda "phoned it in".
You know what. Interviews with Shaq about the crap pile of a movie "Kazaam" were filled more with more excitement and passion then this idiot has.
You are representing a icon, and you are acting as if your doing the world a favor by doing it on your free time? Go the F**K away. You are a 3rd rate actor who plays supporting roles for 99% of your career.
I'm very let down by this. Why would a director let this jackball continue with the role when all he is doing is sinking the ship before it's had a chance to sail?
Comments?
=COBRACOFFEE
VIPER 48
03-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Yeah, i kinda agree. It is almost as if this movie is a big joke to him. Kinda felt like his comments were making fun of this movie in a way...I know not every one will agree with me but this is just my opinion...
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 04:19 PM
I took it differently. He was trying to explain how much fun he's having working on G.I. Joe compared to more reality based movies.
snakeeyes8877
03-28-2008, 04:21 PM
I took it differently. He was trying to explain how much fun he's having working on G.I. Joe compared to more reality based movies.
Thats what i was getting out of it also
Omegawrath
03-28-2008, 04:21 PM
I'm going to suppose that he just can't say too much.
Phorpus
03-28-2008, 04:25 PM
I actually didn't feel anything bad about what he said at all, and I liked that he was talking about it for what it is. His gist was "This movie isn't going to be a serious war movie and it's most likely going to be a super fun popcorn flick", which is what it will most likely be.
VIPER 48
03-28-2008, 04:26 PM
I'm going to suppose that he just can't say too much.
You could be right...
Johnnyakiba
03-28-2008, 04:28 PM
I think he is just having a good time. I mean, like he said, he just finished 2 military esk films & now wants to have fun in a non-serious role.
I think we will be happy with his role.......80% chance.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 04:31 PM
I understand that he may be trying to bring a feel of excitement and thrillride to it but comments about "Just showing up" throw me.
A person should act as if that role is his #1 priority at all times. I understand that he is being interviewed for STOP-LOSS but he didn't need to completely trivialize GI Joe. Which is how I felt he did.
Amberbratt
03-28-2008, 04:34 PM
Calm down peeps
he said it is a pop corn movie i would rather go to the movie and be entertained with guys shooting lasers and not have it based in reality... a thrill a minute...its sci-fi military
I dont want to have it bogged down with all kinds of extra emotionally drawn out crap.... it's based off a comic book if you want reality go and rent black hawk down or saving private ryan
i hope its cool and not campy but at the same point i dont want them to be all 100% thought out... and emoting all over the place
my only hope is that Destro doesn't have an annoying Scottish accent... and cobra commander wears a mask or paper bag or something... coz after seeing that interview he looks super gay :)
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 04:35 PM
I think he was more refering to mental preperation for a film like this. Getting in to the super villain state of mind must be easier than getting in to the state of mind it would take for a movie like "Stop Loss"
Phorpus
03-28-2008, 04:35 PM
Well sometimes people need money.
Sometimes those people are actors.
Sometimes those actors are Jason-Gordon Levitt.
And he said that quote to talk about how relatively easier it was to shoot in comparison to his other films.
karamazov80
03-28-2008, 04:52 PM
My take is that this thing is directed by Stephen "Mummy" Sommers and produced by freakin' Lorenzo "Transformers" di Bonaventura. If you are expecting something serious and artistic from that, well, I hate to say that you will probably be disappointed. This ain't exactly Ingmar Bergman or the Coen Brothers here.
Secondly, in the cartoons, Cobra Commander was completely over the top and wacky, and great because of it. This is about what I would have expected from Levitt. It might be a good idea if some of you guys lower your expectations, and like with Transformers, go into this movie expecting to maybe have a fun couple of hours, and to enjoy seeing some familiar characters on the screen. Because. . .that's probably all it's gonna give you.
I see what he means. This is like Clooney doing a small movie that's super serious and then Ocean's Eighty Million. One you do to be an Actor (with a capital A) and the other you can act in and have fun and get a check.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 05:35 PM
Man,
You guys saw something completely different than I did. I saw an actor more or less laughing the importance of the role off.
It has already been said that the movie will be more based on the Comic and not the Cartoon. The Cobra Commander in the comic was dark and menacing. More of a Jack Nicholson Joker character. I don't recall Jack stating he is part of a movie you could just go see on a Saturday and then finish out the rest of your day like nothing.
I know it's to early to tell, but I think they need get the actors all on the same page when it comes to making comments about the movie. It's already an uphill battle.
Shia Lebouf did nothing but talk about how he was honored to be part of such an amazing experience with transformers. And how he went to work everyday giving 100% to keep the fans happy.
Let's say the new actor of Star Trek's Cpt. Kirk just threw out comments like.. "Yea, I go in and walk around some huge space ship and get to be a super space hero. Eh...it's a living"
The Trekkies would burn his house down.
I just want this jackball JGL to act as if there is an ounce of passion and to be a weeee-bit honored to be playing this role that spans 25 years of success.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 05:39 PM
I see what he means. This is like Clooney doing a small movie that's super serious and then Ocean's Eighty Million. One you do to be an Actor (with a capital A) and the other you can act in and have fun and get a check.
You fail to see the reason I bring this up.
GI Joe is like Star Wars when it comes to fan base.
There are certain things you do to let people know you are trying your hardest to play a beloved character to perfection. Ewan McGreggor plays plenty of smaller capitol A roles... but if he were to go onto television and say anything close to what Joe Levitt says... George Lucas would skin his ass and then fire him.
swafus
03-28-2008, 05:40 PM
I am expecting a complete escapist fantasy, slam-bang action hero, danger music, hoo-haa blockbuster of a movie!! I have no illusions about what G.I. Joe is.
What I take issue with is that this douche-bag is trivializing this project with no regard for the millions of fans that hold this intellectual property quite dear!
He's treating this role like it's a bathroom break at a truckstop on the roadtrip that is his career!
I'm super glad that you're having alot of fun doing a goofy, worth nothing action movie there pal....But how about putting some effort into it just for me.......and the other 2 million or so joe fans out there that have been lusting aftter a G.I.JOE movie for 25 years? Maybe take a little pride in your work in between smoke breaks? Pretty please......with sugar on top.........?
swafus
03-28-2008, 05:42 PM
Man,
You guys saw something completely different than I did. I saw an actor more or less laughing the importance of the role off.
It has already been said that the movie will be more based on the Comic and not the Cartoon. The Cobra Commander in the comic was dark and menacing. More of a Jack Nicholson Joker character. I don't recall Jack stating he is part of a movie you could just go see on a Saturday and then finish out the rest of your day like nothing.
I know it's to early to tell, but I think they need get the actors all on the same page when it comes to making comments about the movie. It's already an uphill battle.
Shia Lebouf did nothing but talk about how he was honored to be part of such an amazing experience with transformers. And how he went to work everyday giving 100% to keep the fans happy.
Let's say the new actor of Star Trek's Cpt. Kirk just threw out comments like.. "Yea, I go in and walk around some huge space ship and get to be a super space hero. Eh...it's a living"
The Trekkies would burn his house down.
I just want this jackball JGL to act as if there is an ounce of passion and to be a weeee-bit honored to be playing this role that spans 25 years of success.
I agree 100% man! Well said.
Sysiss
03-28-2008, 06:19 PM
I agree that this guy comes off as a complete jackass. When your a person in his position there's an expectation of a bit of professionalism that you need to uphold. I defiantly got the impression that this guy could truly care less what the hell happens with this movie and he doesn't even seem into it. Shame.....He could at least show some respect and tell you how he was honored to play such a role even if he really didn't mean it, from the professional standpoint. My take is that if you could care less and aren't interested don't take the roll, but i guess money talks and thats why hes probably in it.
Also from the way it sounds I'm really getting the impression that the movie might be really childish. I hope I'm wrong. I know it has to appeal to children, but i was really hoping for some dramatic/real implications as well. O well, whatcha gonna do.
Gentleman
03-28-2008, 06:21 PM
Marlon Brando was amazing as Jor-El and he sure didn't give a shit about Superman.
blackrazor1
03-28-2008, 06:26 PM
Some of you guys really need to chill out. G.I. Joe is meant to be a summer blockbuster movie, not an art film. It's meant to allow you to escape from reality for 2 hours. It's not going to change the world, but it will probably sell some toys. JGL is a very good actor and will do his best within the limits of the script and direction he is given. Batman, Top Gun, Spiderman, Independance Day, Transformers, Batman Begins. What do these movies have in common? 2 hrs of fun and no serious soul searching afterwards. Even as rabid as Trekkers are, of the 10 movies they've been blessed with, only 2 are worth watching a second time. You got a movie based on a cartoon and a comic book. CC is over the top in the cartoon, where most people form their mental image of him. And even in the comics he's pretty whiny until Fred takes over for him. JGL stated his part in the movie correctly.
Dark 5cythe
03-28-2008, 06:39 PM
wow people are trippin out hard on here lol. Im sure his statements will be clarified either by someone else or himself after they hear the fuss your all making lol
swafus
03-28-2008, 06:46 PM
Some of you guys really need to chill out. G.I. Joe is meant to be a summer blockbuster movie, not an art film. It's meant to allow you to escape from reality for 2 hours. It's not going to change the world, but it will probably sell some toys. JGL is a very good actor and will do his best within the limits of the script and direction he is given. Batman, Top Gun, Spiderman, Independance Day, Transformers, Batman Begins. What do these movies have in common? 2 hrs of fun and no serious soul searching afterwards. Even as rabid as Trekkers are, of the 10 movies they've been blessed with, only 2 are worth watching a second time. You got a movie based on a cartoon and a comic book. CC is over the top in the cartoon, where most people form their mental image of him. And even in the comics he's pretty whiny until Fred takes over for him. JGL stated his part in the movie correctly.
First of all, welcome to the 'tank.
Second of all you obviously haven't read any of the posts from any of the established members here that you're advising to "chill out". You also haven't provided a valid reason why we are wrong for demanding that the guy that's playing the equivalent of our Darth Vader take a little more pride in his work?
A good actor plays every role like it's his last. i.e. (Heath Ledger as The Joker)
There is no more "over-the-top" or cartoonish character than the joker and from what I hear he left quite a legacy with his performance in a "big, fantastic, blockbuster, popcorn movie"
swafus
03-28-2008, 06:47 PM
wow people are trippin out hard on here lol. Im sure his statements will be clarified either by someone else or himself after they hear the fuss your all making lol
Exactly!......fussing gets stuff done sometimes ;-)
C.I.A.D.
03-28-2008, 06:47 PM
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karamazov80
03-28-2008, 06:47 PM
Marlon Brando was amazing as Jor-El and he sure didn't give a shit about Superman.
I also doubt that Christian Bale really cares that much about Batman (though he never says as much in interviews), but he has done a terrific job in that role. But then, Levitt, good though he was in Brick and the Lookout, is not Brando or Bale ;)
Wylde Weezle
03-28-2008, 06:48 PM
He doesn't have to put much prep into this role since I don't think he's in this movie all that much compared to stuff like the "Lookout" and "Stop Loss".
I think Destro is this movie's Megatron, and Cobra Commander is this movie's Starscream [Mr. Latta rolling in his grave LOL] as far as the bad guy spotlight goes. Shoot, even the Baroness will have more viewers' attention I think.
To me, his interview seemed like he was trying to stay within his nondisclosure requirements. And he also seems genuinely enthused about being a part of this - all you CAN do is sorta show up when Dennis Quaid, Ray Park, etc etc are around working on a Stephen Somers set.
swafus
03-28-2008, 06:49 PM
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This thread got you speakin' in tongues boss-man? lol
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 06:58 PM
People are always just negative and look for things to complain about when movies like this get made. This thread just really reminds us of that fact.
C.I.A.D.
03-28-2008, 07:04 PM
This thread got you speakin' in tongues boss-man? lol
Odd. That was supposed to be the "beat a dead horse" & "don't feed the trolls" emoticons. Thanks for pointing that out. :D
People are always just negative and look for things to complain about when movies like this get made. This thread just really reminds us of that fact.
Agreed. But alas, as long as it's kept civil, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even those that have negative outlooks on the subject.
At the end of the day, I don't knock people for being passionate about their hobby, but IMHO,people have to realize that it's not just their hobby. Sometimes the constant negative comments only serve to create animosity rather than constructive dialog. That doesn't mean kiss ass just for the sake of doing so...but gracefully bowing out once and awhile isn't bad either :) That's what I'm going to do now.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 07:05 PM
The Negativity is all that really bothers me about it.
C.I.A.D.
03-28-2008, 07:10 PM
The Negativity is all that really bothers me about it.
Oh, no worries here, I understand completely...but at the risk of playing Devil's Advocate, the same could be said about our "Positivity" on the subject for those that feel strongly against it. At the end of the day, those people have their say too.
My advice to you? Clap out now. Vegas style. Toss a few chips towards the dealer out of respect and go about your business. Less stressful that way ;)
swafus
03-28-2008, 07:12 PM
The Negativity is all that really bothers me about it.
I dislike greatly when the negativity is just whipped up out of nowhere by alot of fans. I've been equal parts positive and negative on this film since it was first announced.
But in my opinion this guy needs to have a little more tact when he's dealing with this project. The disrespect for the property and the fans was just oozing out of this guy! It's not what he says, it's the way he says it.
swafus
03-28-2008, 07:16 PM
I was referring to Joseph Gordon Levitt in my previous post.....just to clarify :-)
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Oh, no worries here, I understand completely...but at the risk of playing Devil's Advocate, the same could be said about our "Positivity" on the subject for those that feel strongly against it. At the end of the day, those people have their say too.
My advice to you? Clap out now. Vegas style. Toss a few chips towards the dealer out of respect and go about your business. Less stressful that way ;)
I try to remain rather middle ground about it. I was pretty skeptical of TF, and well I was very, very wrong about that. It turned out great. So I'm trying not to be too one way or the other.
But I guess that's the thing with the internet: There's always either people too positive, or too negative in discussion groups. It's really hard to remain balanced I suppose.
onefastbird95
03-28-2008, 07:42 PM
At best I would say he didn't think before the words came out of his mouth, because when you are in a position where many people can hear you, well you tend not to want to say things that can even remotely be taken the wrong way and come back to bite you in the ass. He goofed and maybe he doesn't care, the guys funding the money probably wouldn't say what he said if they were trying to get a business deal done, right? I do know one thing, GI JOE will make more money than stop-loss or any other movie he has been in or ever will be in. So he should remember where his big paycheck is comming from. Without fans there would be no GIJOE movie.
Tracker
03-28-2008, 07:56 PM
i didn't really hear anything negative about Gi Joe in his comments.
GI Guppy the third
03-28-2008, 08:16 PM
You know he shouldn't do a popcorn action film because being honest that it's more fun than challenging upsets the fanbase and cause a kneejerk reaction.
I'm sorry but a lot of actors either do it for the money, or do it for the recognition (oscar). GI Joe will provide neither for most of the actors in this film. He didn't say he was phoning it in, just that the film is fun. With a script like this, there isn't going to be a lot of room for artistic expression and powerful individual performances so why struggle with it to the point of ODing on prescription drugs. Why not just be apart of the experience and actually enjoy it?
GI Guppy the third
03-28-2008, 08:18 PM
Also, listen carefully to the interview, you will note those aren't proper quotes at the beginning of this thread.
swafus
03-28-2008, 08:36 PM
You know he shouldn't do a popcorn action film because being honest that it's more fun than challenging upsets the fanbase and cause a kneejerk reaction.
I'm sorry but a lot of actors either do it for the money, or do it for the recognition (oscar). GI Joe will provide neither for most of the actors in this film. He didn't say he was phoning it in, just that the film is fun. With a script like this, there isn't going to be a lot of room for artistic expression and powerful individual performances so why struggle with it to the point of ODing on prescription drugs. Why not just be apart of the experience and actually enjoy it?
He didn't "actually say" he was phoning it in, but I for one don't need everything spelled out for me. I spent less time examining the exact words that spewed from his cake-hole and paid more attention to his tone, indifference, and what genuinely seemed like distaste for this project. As a die-hard fan of this property, I feel disrespected.
I will say in his defense, that he looked like a deer in headlights when Maltin asked him about G.I.JOE and I'm sure (much like Lucasfilm) that he has been given strict guidelines for what he can and can't talk about in regards to this project. He was definitely a little flabbergasted.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 08:39 PM
You know he shouldn't do a popcorn action film because being honest that it's more fun than challenging upsets the fanbase and cause a kneejerk reaction.
I'm sorry but a lot of actors either do it for the money, or do it for the recognition (oscar). GI Joe will provide neither for most of the actors in this film. He didn't say he was phoning it in, just that the film is fun. With a script like this, there isn't going to be a lot of room for artistic expression and powerful individual performances so why struggle with it to the point of ODing on prescription drugs. Why not just be apart of the experience and actually enjoy it?
Steven Sommers says :
"The film is reportedly an origins story. It could explain why Destro has a chromed head and why Snake Eyes doesn't speak, among other outlandish details of "G.I. Joe" that the cartoon never explained. "For people who know nothing about it, it'll make sense... And to people who love this stuff, it'll show where they all came from."
Sorry bud, but Steve says you're wrong.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 08:41 PM
The Negativity is all that really bothers me about it.
There's an old comment about some heat and a kitchen somewhere.
I'll attempt to find it on this here Intra-web appliance.
copywrite
03-28-2008, 08:43 PM
Wow. Talk about taking his quotes out of context. He, in no way showed that he didn't care about the film. He seemed genuinely enthused about being able to be in the film. I don't know what you guys are expecting out of this movie, but he's absolutely correct when he says it's not a movie that's meant to make you think after it's over. It's just mindless fun for a couple hours. And he also couldn't even mention anything about the role he's playing except that he's the villain. So he doesn't even get to mention how much fun or whatnot it is to play him.
copywrite
03-28-2008, 08:48 PM
He didn't "actually say" he was phoning it in, but I for one don't need everything spelled out for me. I spent less time examining the exact words that spewed from his cake-hole and paid more attention to his tone, indifference, and what genuinely seemed like distaste for this project. As a die-hard fan of this property, I feel disrespected.
I will say in his defense, that he looked like a deer in headlights when Maltin asked him about G.I.JOE and I'm sure (much like Lucasfilm) that he has been given strict guidelines for what he can and can't talk about in regards to this project. He was definitely a little flabbergasted.
So why are you taking his words so literally. It's obvious he can't even mention his characters name, nor anything about the movie. You need to give him a little slack. And I didn't get that he had a distaste for the project at all from his comments. He made it seem like it's going to be a lot of fun, which it is.
BigErn
03-28-2008, 08:57 PM
I saw a guy that was excited to be a part of GI Joe and who feels it's a relief to be in this role. I mean the guy says he's having fun with it, what more can you ask for? When I get to have fun at work it's a relief. Let the guy do his job, we can all judge him next summer.
swafus
03-28-2008, 08:59 PM
So why are you taking his words so literally. It's obvious he can't even mention his characters name, nor anything about the movie. You need to give him a little slack. And I didn't get that he had a distaste for the project at all from his comments. He made it seem like it's going to be a lot of fun, which it is.
Where did I say that I was taking his words literally? As I just stated in my previous post, it is mainly his tone that I take issue with. It is my "OPINION" that he seems to have a distaste for this project and doesn't seem to be taking it seriously. It is my right as a fan to voice my disappointment. and for the record, I don't NEED to cut anyone any slack....ever ;-)
swafus
03-28-2008, 09:03 PM
So why are you taking his words so literally. It's obvious he can't even mention his characters name, nor anything about the movie. You need to give him a little slack. And I didn't get that he had a distaste for the project at all from his comments. He made it seem like it's going to be a lot of fun, which it is.
Odd. That was supposed to be the "beat a dead horse" & "don't feed the trolls" emoticons. Thanks for pointing that out. :D
Agreed. But alas, as long as it's kept civil, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even those that have negative outlooks on the subject.
At the end of the day, I don't knock people for being passionate about their hobby, but IMHO,people have to realize that it's not just their hobby. Sometimes the constant negative comments only serve to create animosity rather than constructive dialog. That doesn't mean kiss ass just for the sake of doing so...but gracefully bowing out once and awhile isn't bad either :) That's what I'm going to do now.
I now see your wisdom in this matter E.
Here are the rest of my chips......I'm out!
GI Guppy the third
03-28-2008, 09:08 PM
Steven Sommers says :
"The film is reportedly an origins story. It could explain why Destro has a chromed head and why Snake Eyes doesn't speak, among other outlandish details of "G.I. Joe" that the cartoon never explained. "For people who know nothing about it, it'll make sense... And to people who love this stuff, it'll show where they all came from."
Sorry bud, but Steve says you're wrong.
Sorry bud but your fancy highlighting is wasteful. Sommers in no way said I'm wrong and in no way addressed what you highlighted out of my quote. Equating facts about a character to ability to act a role are different things. JGL is playing a character everyon knows to a T, there's no room for him to experiment with his own take on the character that is an exciting luxery with most of his other films.
GI Guppy the third
03-28-2008, 09:32 PM
I saw a guy that was excited to be a part of GI Joe and who feels it's a relief to be in this role. I mean the guy says he's having fun with it, what more can you ask for? When I get to have fun at work it's a relief. Let the guy do his job, we can all judge him next summer.
exactly
He's played some challenging roles that probably keep him up at night. I imagine it's quite a relief to play a role that is already so well defined by comics and cartoons that it makes it an easier role to understand and digest.
Dark 5cythe
03-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Maybe the guy just didnt grow up with GI JOE and knows nothing about it other than what he has to learn for the movie? Its hard to be enthusiastic when you dont know much about it?
Maybe he isnt allowed to say anything more? Maybe he means that he doesnt stress for the role because its fun to him?
Like one of the other tankers here said, maybe we dont see much of him in the film so he isnt stressed, or it comes naturally to him.
Dark 5cythe
03-28-2008, 09:51 PM
exactly
He's played some challenging roles that probably keep him up at night. I imagine it's quite a relief to play a role that is already so well defined by comics and cartoons that it makes it an easier role to understand and digest.
you may be right. It cant be bad if he says hes having fun with it. That means not stressing.
Ledger was having a hard time sleeping reportedly because he had immersed himself so much in the role of the joker that it was keeping his mind occupied and "in the role" all the time. There was a report that he even locked himself in his room alot just to feel like the character-- disconnected from people.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Sorry bud but your fancy highlighting is wasteful. Sommers in no way said I'm wrong and in no way addressed what you highlighted out of my quote. Equating facts about a character to ability to act a role are different things. JGL is playing a character everyon knows to a T, there's no room for him to experiment with his own take on the character that is an exciting luxery with most of his other films.
Do you even hear yourself? Hoss?
On the one hand you talk of "no character development" being the reason he can just play it off as a good time. And then the next second say Actors don't needs to do or say anything unique for you to connect with the character they are trying to play. Movies can still be big and blockbuster AND have a little bit of story to connect with the fanbase that have been waiting for 25 years. Not everyone knows who or what Cobra Commander is about. Sorry. They need to have character development to a certain degree. Having this B-Actor come on and say "Yea...it's alot of fun going and doing this kinda Star Wars like futuristic movie with guns" makes people who actually take this stuff to heart cringe.
You my friend are the reason these movies fail. You need to stop accepting what ever is dished out and have a voice for once.
I think Steven Sommers saying that this movie will explain where characters came from leads me to believe there will be a shred of "story" rather then what you suggest which is a big 2 hour explosion on screen. (which if it had that also would be ok)
Ya saavy? Buddy?
Oh and btw, highlighting things on the Internets isn't that hard it takes a little time and not much effort. You know....kinda like Joe G Levitts role in the movie!
apacolypse
03-28-2008, 10:15 PM
I took it differently. He was trying to explain how much fun he's having working on G.I. Joe compared to more reality based movies.
That's what I gathered from the clip also.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:16 PM
There's an old comment about some heat and a kitchen somewhere.
I'll attempt to find it on this here Intra-web appliance.
Well I wasn't referring to you in specific, but if you want to start trying to flame and attack, (And after reading your responses to others posts, you seem to be going that way.) Then have fun.
Sysiss
03-28-2008, 10:18 PM
you may be right. It cant be bad if he says hes having fun with it. That means not stressing.
Ledger was having a hard time sleeping reportedly because he had immersed himself so much in the role of the joker that it was keeping his mind occupied and "in the role" all the time. There was a report that he even locked himself in his room alot just to feel like the character-- disconnected from people.
Speaking of Ledger and of course this is off topic, but i think he would of been a hell of a CC. From the clips/trailers of him as the Joker it looks like he nailed that role perfectly and i see similarities between the character of the "Joker" and "CC." I heard of those rumors as well and he could also be heard down the hall in his hotel room practicing diabolical laughs in the middle of the night, now things like that are dedication and being into the role. Too bad. :(
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:23 PM
Well I wasn't referring to you in specific, but if you want to start trying to flame and attack, (And after reading your responses to others posts, you seem to be going that way.) Then have fun.
Flame or attack? what are you talking about? Just because I disagree with you and give you my facts as to why.. I'm attacking you?
What Smurf Village do you live in? because there is a real world right around the corner that everyone isn't super sweet to each other and agrees about everything. Anyway, you got me all wrong. I was the one who started this thread...and it has been quite lively. If you chime in calling people names such as Negative and saying their opinions are unfound...well... you open yourself up to a rebuttle.
gunslingercbr
03-28-2008, 10:25 PM
First, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4RYwl7fa0
Now, I don't know about you but I don't think comments like..
"I just didn't really care about anything"
"I put my all into other movies but just show up to GI Joe"
"You just kinda go...then watch it...then continue your day"
I am very very VERY let down by this actor. Even if he isn't a huge GI Joe fan.. you do NOT go onto television and inform the fanbase of a massive genre that you just kinda "phoned it in".
You know what. Interviews with Shaq about the crap pile of a movie "Kazaam" were filled more with more excitement and passion then this idiot has.
You are representing a icon, and you are acting as if your doing the world a favor by doing it on your free time? Go the F**K away. You are a 3rd rate actor who plays supporting roles for 99% of your career.
I'm very let down by this. Why would a director let this jackball continue with the role when all he is doing is sinking the ship before it's had a chance to sail?
Comments?
=COBRACOFFEE
this couldn't be a more a dishonest interpretation and mis-quotation of what the kid said. at no point did Levitt say he didn't care about the role and he isn't giving it his all. all he said was that it was a fun role that didn't take the seriousness of Stop Loss, and allows him to go about his life after his filming is done for the day.
comments? yes -- shame on you. you don't have to sensationalize what he said to instigate conversation.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:26 PM
That post proved my point. I didn't call YOU negative, or say YOUR opinions were "Unfounded." I gave my opinions on the matter, then saw OTHER PEOPLE being negative and that's what I was talking about. Even the negativity I'm referring to isn't just this thread. You are getting offended and nasty over something so small. You just need to calm down.
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:29 PM
this couldn't be a more a dishonest interpretation and mis-quotation of what the kid said. at no point did Levitt say he didn't care about the role and he isn't giving it his all. all he said was that it was a fun role that didn't take the seriousness of Stop Loss, and allows him to go about his life after his filming is done for the day.
comments? yes -- shame on you.
If I were the only person in this thread that felt this way then I would look back and say to myself..."maybe I'm wrong". but there are a large amount of people who agree with me after viewing it. So...All I can do is say your opinion differs then mine!
That's the beauty of the "forum". We can discuss differences of opinions. It all falls back on the whole freedom of speech issue. you know.... the thing Cobra Commander wants to stop. Do you think someone should write that down and pass it to Joe G Levitt so he knows what his part is about?
ladyhump
03-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I didn't get a bad vibe from it. I'm reserving judgment until I see the movie, though.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Do you think someone should write that down and pass it to Joe G Levitt so he knows what his part is about?[/color]
That's probably the one thing EVERYONE is worried about right there.
Echo7Solo
03-28-2008, 10:32 PM
well which film will end up with oscar buzz? I'm just saying. But what do you want? Star Wars or Saving Private Ryan?
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:33 PM
That post proved my point. I didn't call YOU negative, or say YOUR opinions were "Unfounded." I gave my opinions on the matter, then saw OTHER PEOPLE being negative and that's what I was talking about. Even the negativity I'm referring to isn't just this thread. You are getting offended and nasty over something so small. You just need to calm down.
Calm down? Does my typing or text lead you to believe I am in an irrational state of mind? Because I am not. I just enjoy lively conversation my friend.
And just to clarify... Yes, you were the first to bring the comment "people here are negative" to the table. I was simply telling you that if they disagree with you, it's not negativity. It's their opinion.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:37 PM
Calm down? Does my typing or text lead you to believe I am in an irrational state of mind? Because I am not. I just enjoy lively conversation my friend.
And just to clarify... Yes, you were the first to bring the comment "people here are negative" to the table. I was simply telling you that if they disagree with you, it's not negativity. It's their opinion.
Here is where I think you are misunderstanding me. It's not the differing opinions that are negative. It's that some people (And just so there is no mistake, I'm not saying you. Or anybody in particular for that matter.) LOOK for things to complain about with this movie. I never once directed that AT YOU.
And yeah, Your typing does lead to believe that you are irrational when you throw things like "What smurf village do you live in" around, right after saying you aren't attacking anyone. That is an attack.
gunslingercbr
03-28-2008, 10:37 PM
If I were the only person in this thread that felt this way then I would look back and say to myself..."maybe I'm wrong". but there are a large amount of people who agree with me after viewing it. So...All I can do is say your opinion differs then mine!
That's the beauty of the "forum". We can discuss differences of opinions. It all falls back on the whole freedom of speech issue. you know.... the thing Cobra Commander wants to stop. Do you think someone should write that down and pass it to Joe G Levitt so he knows what his part is about?
there is no freedom of speech issue going on in this forum.
no, we shouldn't send him anything, because I'm sure he doesn't care whether G.I. Joe has an overly-sensitive and dishonest fan base that is so sensitive that it clouds their reason and comprehension, and are contriving reasons to be angry about the actor they don't want to see in the movie to begin with.
you cannot interpret, at all, what he said to mean what you claim it to mean without misquoting and misrepresenting it. that's dishonest.
SnakeEyes
03-28-2008, 10:43 PM
This may have been mentioned already, but JGL DID say how lucky he was to be given the opportunity to play such a role. It sounded to me like he's just relieved more than anything to be playing a role where he can just have fun with the character. His previous flicks have been more serious, and thought provoking. This is an "ACTION MOVIE" after all! As an actor, I'm sure that an action adventure movie such as this takes much less effort than a serious drama, anyway. And I think that's all he was trying to say!
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:44 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought he meant in that interview. The fact that he seemed... alright, I'll say it, high, may have confused people I guess. (Yeah I know, he was probably tired or something and not high.)
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:45 PM
Here is where I think you are misunderstanding me. It's not the differing opinions that are negative. It's that some people (And just so there is no mistake, I'm not saying you. Or anybody in particular for that matter.) LOOK for things to complain about with this movie. I never once directed that AT YOU.
And yeah, Your typing does lead to believe that you are irrational when you throw things like "What smurf village do you live in" around, right after saying you aren't attacking anyone. That is an attack.
No that's called a colorful anectdote to convey a certain feeling in a message. Nothing more. That's what people do to make reading more enjoyable.
Dark 5cythe
03-28-2008, 10:50 PM
Oh come on guys, arguing on the internet? really? your free to do as you wish of course. But this is like watching the special olympics lol....
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:50 PM
there is no freedom of speech issue going on in this forum.
no, we shouldn't send him anything, because I'm sure he doesn't care whether G.I. Joe has an overly-sensitive and dishonest fan base that is so sensitive that it clouds their reason and comprehension, and are contriving reasons to be angry about the actor they don't want to see in the movie to begin with.
you cannot interpret, at all, what he said to mean what you claim it to mean without misquoting and misrepresenting it. that's dishonest.
Sorry, I disagree whole heartedly. But hey. We shall see.
I said Goodday Maddam!
CobraCoffee
03-28-2008, 10:51 PM
Oh come on guys, arguing on the internet? really? your free to do as you wish of course. But this is like watching the special olympics lol....
http://www.derekburt.com/blog/images/cartman_retard.jpg
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 10:51 PM
That's why I'm trying to explain my intentions. For some reason he thinks I'm attacking him so he's retaliating, but I'm an adult. that's just out right silly.
Shin Densetsu
03-28-2008, 11:20 PM
I'm going to wait til the movie comes out to say if it will suck or not. Regardless of what this guy says, if he acts the role well, I could care less.
office viper
03-28-2008, 11:23 PM
WOW!
I just joined this website, and i gotta say, this is like being on springer!
ACTION PACKED!
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 11:29 PM
Nah, this place is really civil 99.9% of the time. Me and Cobra Coffee had a misunderstanding, but I don't think there is any legit bad blood between anyone here.
Sysiss
03-28-2008, 11:34 PM
WOW!
I just joined this website, and i gotta say, this is like being on springer!
ACTION PACKED!
I think you joined because you want in on the action!! What a marketing scheme by our fellow Hisstank members, genius!! :)
Omegawrath
03-28-2008, 11:39 PM
Calm down peeps
he said it is a pop corn movie i would rather go to the movie and be entertained with guys shooting lasers and not have it based in reality... a thrill a minute...its sci-fi military
I dont want to have it bogged down with all kinds of extra emotionally drawn out crap.... it's based off a comic book if you want reality go and rent black hawk down or saving private ryan
i hope its cool and not campy but at the same point i dont want them to be all 100% thought out... and emoting all over the place
my only hope is that Destro doesn't have an annoying Scottish accent... and cobra commander wears a mask or paper bag or something... coz after seeing that interview he looks super gay :)
I totally want a Scottish accent, but otherwise, well-said.
Joe gets heavy, but in moments. Brief, intense inspiring moments. I don't want a message movie. I want the new Star Wars.
Astrokreep
03-28-2008, 11:39 PM
We = Ratings!
gunslingercbr
03-28-2008, 11:50 PM
Sorry, I disagree whole heartedly. But hey. We shall see.
I said Goodday Maddam!
this isn't something you can disagree with. you can dispute it, but that would require empirical evidence, and the empirical evidence -- the video and what he actually says -- is on my side. he not only didn't say what you misquoted him as saying (fact -- the video proves it), but what he said is so clear cut and absolute that it's meaning cannot even be interpreted to mean what you misquote him as saying. the only way it can mean what you claim it means is if you interpret your misquote -- and the empirical evidence proves your misquote isn't what he said. so if your misquote is false, than your interpretation is false as well in regards to what he actually did say (though it is a true interpretation of your misquote -- but this topic isn't about what you say he said, it is about what he actually did say).
and that is all I have to say about that.
office viper
03-28-2008, 11:51 PM
I think you joined because you want in on the action!! What a marketing scheme by our fellow Hisstank members, genius!! :)
thank you! i never been caalled a genius before...
actually, i have something to say about the interview billy!
You can not have a good hero without a great villain. I'm a little concerned about good old joseph playing cobra commander if he is'nt taking it as seriously. this is after all a battle of good vs. evil.
all war is serious. even in the future.
this story has spanned more than 25 years. it would be nice if the movie did'nt suck...
Syn3sthesia
03-28-2008, 11:53 PM
Is just pure fun!
CobraCoffee
03-29-2008, 12:49 AM
this isn't something you can disagree with. you can dispute it, but that would require empirical evidence, and the empirical evidence -- the video and what he actually says -- is on my side. he not only didn't say what you misquoted him as saying (fact -- the video proves it), but what he said is so clear cut and absolute that it's meaning cannot even be interpreted to mean what you misquote him as saying. the only way it can mean what you claim it means is if you interpret your misquote -- and the empirical evidence proves your misquote isn't what he said. so if your misquote is false, than your interpretation is false as well in regards to what he actually did say (though it is a true interpretation of your misquote -- but this topic isn't about what you say he said, it is about what he actually did say).
and that is all I have to say about that.
Uh, let me help you.
I never said I was quoting him directly. At no time did he say "I'm just gonna phone this one in" but yet I said that also! Oh man! I derived my sarcastic comments offa real ones! Off with my head!
You miss understand the point of this post yet again. The point was, "I" Feeeeeeeeeeeel he is not going to take the character seriously enough. So hence the post.
Now, if you are going to call me on the way I used a translation of his verbaige to achieve a desired effect. Well, you need to lighten up on a action figure forum there Mr. Tribeck.
The guy is a jackball and if you think by that interview he is going to rep the character correctly then I feel bad for your impressions of people.Now... I am leaving room to be dazzled. But first impressions make or break things.
Sysiss
03-29-2008, 12:51 AM
thank you! i never been caalled a genius before...
actually, i have something to say about the interview billy!
You can not have a good hero without a great villain. I'm a little concerned about good old joseph playing cobra commander if he is'nt taking it as seriously. this is after all a battle of good vs. evil.
all war is serious. even in the future.
this story has spanned more than 25 years. it would be nice if the movie did'nt suck...
Actually i was referring to the "scheme" as in the debate we are currently having that sparked your interest in the site and contributed to your joining "genius," as in what an idea!! Just a joke. But what the heck, you can be a genius too!! Hehe :)
Astrokreep
03-29-2008, 02:22 AM
Uh, let me help you.
I never said I was quoting him directly. At no time did he say "I'm just gonna phone this one in" but yet I said that also! Oh man! I derived my sarcastic comments offa real ones! Off with my head!
You miss understand the point of this post yet again. The point was, "I" Feeeeeeeeeeeel he is not going to take the character seriously enough. So hence the post.
Now, if you are going to call me on the way I used a translation of his verbaige to achieve a desired effect. Well, you need to lighten up on a action figure forum there Mr. Tribeck.
The guy is a jackball and if you think by that interview he is going to rep the character correctly then I feel bad for your impressions of people.Now... I am leaving room to be dazzled. But first impressions make or break things.
You know what, I see what the problem is. From typing it's really hard to tell what someone's intentions are. People may be reading your jokes as more than that. You can't hear the tone of your voice, or see the look on your face so a lot of it comes across as insults or whathaveyou.
HeavyDuty
03-29-2008, 03:21 AM
[QUOTE=CobraCoffee;89221]GI Joe is like Star Wars when it comes to fan base.
QUOTE]
I think that might be a bit of an over statement.
BOMBSHELLMIKE
03-29-2008, 03:28 AM
Heed my words 'Tankers. I DON"T THINK HE WILL PULL THIS OFF. Sorry, CC is one of my favorite characters. Bad Choice, this guy is too young and too 90210 BS.....:(
Wylde Weezle
03-29-2008, 06:26 AM
Anyone here happen to catch "Stop Loss" ? I know it just opened today, but I don't it's coming to Korea, so I won't get to watch it ... legally, anyway. Just wondering.
He looked enthused to me for the most part about getting to play his role, but I think Maltin's question caught him off-guard.
SnakeEyes
03-29-2008, 09:07 AM
Joseph Gordon Levitt: "To me, what's important is making a good movie and of course I want people to see it. Stop Loss will get much more exposure than some of the smaller movies that I did, but it was made with the same spirit as some of those tiny independent movies that I made. Kimberly Pierce is an artist. She's not doing this to make money. I don't think any of us were there to make money. In fact, I think, well, I don't know if this is exactly a fact, but I do know that none of us were there to make money. We all were doing it because we cared about it, believed in it and that's what matters to me."
It's pretty clear to me that this kid is choosing his roles because he cares. I also believe it's possible to care about something and have fun doing it at the same time. And I think that's all he was trying to say in the video, is that he's having FUN with GIJOE!
Also, for the record, he does say that he wasn't a huge JOE fan as a kid. But I doubt Sienna Miller, or a majority of the rest of the cast for that matter, was either. I guarantee you that if they hired a bunch of "Tankers" to play these roles, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Unfortunately, not everyone feels as passionate about this project as we fans do. And I'm not going to expect JGL to have the same level of enthusiasm about his role in the movie as I would have had. YES, he's excited and having a good time, but that's where it ends for him. If it were ME, I'd be wearing my CC costume to bed at night quoting scenes from the cartoon, HEHE!
Elite Force Cobra
03-29-2008, 09:25 AM
damn we won't know nothin until 2009, hype and being in question will grow daily, i keep trying to imagin on how it will be like but hey look at transformers with micheal bay i wouldn't have been able to call that judgement in advance and i thought it came out well. I mean it left me interested in the sequel. which i'm sure once GI Joe comes out and the box office bank rolls more then fort knocks the whole team will be writing a part 2. i mean who honestly would have thought a disney ride would make billions in a movie? (Pirates of the carribean) but just think how many people will be dressed up in roll play standing in line at the opener?
gunslingercbr
03-29-2008, 10:21 AM
Uh, let me help you.
I never said I was quoting him directly. At no time did he say "I'm just gonna phone this one in" but yet I said that also! Oh man! I derived my sarcastic comments offa real ones! Off with my head!
You miss understand the point of this post yet again. The point was, "I" Feeeeeeeeeeeel he is not going to take the character seriously enough. So hence the post.
Now, if you are going to call me on the way I used a translation of his verbaige to achieve a desired effect. Well, you need to lighten up on a action figure forum there Mr. Tribeck.
The guy is a jackball and if you think by that interview he is going to rep the character correctly then I feel bad for your impressions of people.Now... I am leaving room to be dazzled. But first impressions make or break things.
are you serious? I hate to break this to you...there isn't anything to be taken seriously in the movie or the character. you know nothing about acting if you think it requires the same effort or mind-frame to do a dramatic role where not only you are trying to illicit emotion in yourself and your performance and one where you are disguised in a cartoonish costume spouting lines like "You can't play nice with science, Duke" through a digitally altered voice because your character has no vocal chords.
the character is as 2 dimensional as can be. his dialogue isn't challenging and it doesn't require any depth or internal strife. there isn't a wrong way to represent the character. you go in, be big and over the top so children think you are menacing -- but not horrifying, and call it a day. that's it. and that is all Levitt said. I hate to break it to you, but not thinking Cobra Commander is a role that requires any semblance of seriousness doesn't make him the jackball.
and just because you feel something doesn't make you correct or beyond reproach. that is just a cop-out for not being logical. feelings can be based on misperceptions, and thus the feelings don't apply to what is actually true.
Shogi
03-29-2008, 10:57 AM
I'm not able to see the interview (Issues with flashplayer and not being a member of YouTube)
But I will say that one interview, never fully expresses how an actor feels about their role.
Case in point: I see that Shia's quote about being "honored" to play in Transformers was in this thread.....I also remember an interview with Shia that was basically him cussing and talking about how Transformers is just a way for him to get rich and buy his mom a house. Transfans exploded at this and claimed that Shia cared nothing about Transformers and they needed to get a different actor........Sound familiar????
panzer
03-29-2008, 11:05 AM
Have to say they are actors & they are in it for the money.
If they enjoy shooting the movie,well more kudos to them.
That it`s a movie based on a comic book/toyline,well I won`t loose any sleep if it doesn`t hit my expectations.
At the end of the day it`s VERY RARE a film based on a novel,comic,toyline has achieved total recognition of doing a GREAT job from the fan base. Hell even the LOTR trilogy has plenty of gripers at Jackson for butchering it & he`s a fan of the books.
We all have our own imaginations & have for years built the characters our own ways.
Lets just wait till the movie comes out & then see what they did with it.
thunderdan19
03-29-2008, 11:44 AM
Me thinks someone may be consuming a little too much of their product... :)
Cobra-Viper
03-29-2008, 11:53 AM
First, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4RYwl7fa0
Now, I don't know about you but I don't think comments like..
"I just didn't really care about anything"
"I put my all into other movies but just show up to GI Joe"
"You just kinda go...then watch it...then continue your day"
I am very very VERY let down by this actor. Even if he isn't a huge GI Joe fan.. you do NOT go onto television and inform the fanbase of a massive genre that you just kinda "phoned it in".
You know what. Interviews with Shaq about the crap pile of a movie "Kazaam" were filled more with more excitement and passion then this idiot has.
You are representing a icon, and you are acting as if your doing the world a favor by doing it on your free time? Go the F**K away. You are a 3rd rate actor who plays supporting roles for 99% of your career.
I'm very let down by this. Why would a director let this jackball continue with the role when all he is doing is sinking the ship before it's had a chance to sail?
Comments?
=COBRACOFFEE
Woah Woa! He seemed ridiculously happy with the part. Did you see the same interview? He expressed how much fun it is, and was only really trying to compare GI Joe to his previous two films. Which were obviously gruelling to him, so he is really happy at doing GI Joe, which is apprently a fun action blockbuster, sure his wording could have been a little better, but obviously he isn't going to phone it in, he is a fantastic actor, not a 3rd rate actor.
***NO FLAMING***
Golobulous
03-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Reality is 98% of the time these actors are just in it for the money, logic says they really could care less about gi joe other than if it is good it will be a major cash cow with sequals that will make them even richer. it is niave to think they feel the way about the characters that we do. some may feel that way and that is great, but for the most part its all about the money just like everything else in america.
I agree with Cobra Viper, he is making a fun action movie, i think he takes his cue from leonard maltin, its obvious that leonard isn't a joe fan
crazyfellow1
03-29-2008, 12:13 PM
He seemed incredibly embarrassed by doing a gijoe movie and it also seemed like he was trying to acknowledge that it was going to be bad, so that he would look better in the longrun
crazyfellow1
03-29-2008, 12:15 PM
Reality is 98% of the time these actors are just in it for the money, logic says they really could care less about gi joe other than if it is good it will be a major cash cow with sequals that will make them even richer. it is niave to think they feel the way about the characters that we do. some may feel that way and that is great, but for the most part its all about the money just like everything else in america.
Chances are that we will never see his face, and if he does a bad job, well, no sequel for him
Astrokreep
03-29-2008, 12:17 PM
I'm not able to see the interview (Issues with flashplayer and not being a member of YouTube)
But I will say that one interview, never fully expresses how an actor feels about their role.
Case in point: I see that Shia's quote about being "honored" to play in Transformers was in this thread.....I also remember an interview with Shia that was basically him cussing and talking about how Transformers is just a way for him to get rich and buy his mom a house. Transfans exploded at this and claimed that Shia cared nothing about Transformers and they needed to get a different actor........Sound familiar????
Haha Actually I remember that from lurking various boards.
crazyfellow1
03-29-2008, 12:23 PM
You know what, I see what the problem is. From typing it's really hard to tell what someone's intentions are. People may be reading your jokes as more than that. You can't hear the tone of your voice, or see the look on your face so a lot of it comes across as insults or whathaveyou.
I agree with you 100% Astrokreep
thunderdan19
03-29-2008, 12:26 PM
I agree with Cobra Viper, he is making a fun action movie, i think he takes his cue from leonard maltin, its obvious that leonard isn't a joe fan
Are you kidding me? Even though it was supposed to be Stop Loss interview, he spent the whole clip trying to get the kid to spill anything he could get on the Joe movie coming up. Even if Leonard is not a fan, I think as a movie buff, he knows it is destined to be a huge story coming down the pike. He seemed genuinely interested in the movie at least, and was probing for info.
Counterpoint
03-29-2008, 01:21 PM
First, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4RYwl7fa0
Now, I don't know about you but I don't think comments like..
"I just didn't really care about anything"
"I put my all into other movies but just show up to GI Joe"
"You just kinda go...then watch it...then continue your day"
I am very very VERY let down by this actor. Even if he isn't a huge GI Joe fan.. you do NOT go onto television and inform the fanbase of a massive genre that you just kinda "phoned it in".
You know what. Interviews with Shaq about the crap pile of a movie "Kazaam" were filled more with more excitement and passion then this idiot has.
You are representing a icon, and you are acting as if your doing the world a favor by doing it on your free time? Go the F**K away. You are a 3rd rate actor who plays supporting roles for 99% of your career.
I'm very let down by this. Why would a director let this jackball continue with the role when all he is doing is sinking the ship before it's had a chance to sail?
Comments?
=COBRACOFFEE
I was never really thrilled that he was going to be Cobra Commander from the get go. I thought he should be a token, throw him in, let him die and forget about him character - but no, the powers that be have decided he is the perfect fit for CC's shoes and this is the one thing (imho) that might drag this movie down.
DPrime
03-29-2008, 01:43 PM
this isn't something you can disagree with. you can dispute it, but that would require empirical evidence, and the empirical evidence -- the video and what he actually says -- is on my side. he not only didn't say what you misquoted him as saying (fact -- the video proves it), but what he said is so clear cut and absolute that it's meaning cannot even be interpreted to mean what you misquote him as saying. the only way it can mean what you claim it means is if you interpret your misquote -- and the empirical evidence proves your misquote isn't what he said. so if your misquote is false, than your interpretation is false as well in regards to what he actually did say (though it is a true interpretation of your misquote -- but this topic isn't about what you say he said, it is about what he actually did say).
and that is all I have to say about that.
I totally agree - some of you guys are making something out of nothing.
I really can't see how anyone can get angry after watching that. I mean, seriously.
wow, no offence man, just when leonard says "so, you admitted your in it"and laughing, just came across as a bit snobbish is all. I think people in interviews tend to mimc the tone of the interviewer, just my opinion is all, didn't mean to kid?
thunderdan19
03-29-2008, 04:23 PM
Nah, me neither. Just reinforces how people can interpret the same interview very differently. I think Maltin was referring to all the usual hollywood secrecy surrounding any major potentially money making production when he said JGL "admitted" to being in it, since he seems sworn to silence about anything else besides "lasers".
apacolypse
03-29-2008, 04:26 PM
I will say this...in the interview he does seem like he is "on something." I got that vibe from him...I may be wrong, maybe it's just his being normal...but I got that vibe.
Could be that he is just very exhausted though.
Shogi
03-29-2008, 04:47 PM
OK, I've gotten hold of a computer that will play the clip. after seeing it I can definately say this appears to be a case of making a mountain out of a molehill
Everything everyone seems to be upset about looks to be taken out of context. He "admits" to being in the movie right after saying "Unfortunately I can't tell you too much about it" (This should be construed more as a joke between the two as in, "I can't talk about this movie at all, but I can say I'm in it")
As for the putting all of himself into the other movies. He's talking about how his last two movies were very serious movies with very emotional scenes that took a toll on him emotionally, so it's nice to be able to be in a movie that isn't as emotionally draining and is a fun movie to work on.
Yes he calls it a popcorn flick. A fun joyride of a movie that doesn't have some great purpose to it or message or make you stop and re-evaluate your life in general.......That's what, I for one, am EXPECTING from this movie (The fun part, not the boring, re-evaluate my life part)
Like I said, mountain out of a molehill
crazyfellow1
03-29-2008, 05:51 PM
OK, I've gotten hold of a computer that will play the clip. after seeing it I can definately say this appears to be a case of making a mountain out of a molehill
Everything everyone seems to be upset about looks to be taken out of context. He "admits" to being in the movie right after saying "Unfortunately I can't tell you too much about it" (This should be construed more as a joke between the two as in, "I can't talk about this movie at all, but I can say I'm in it")
As for the putting all of himself into the other movies. He's talking about how his last two movies were very serious movies with very emotional scenes that took a toll on him emotionally, so it's nice to be able to be in a movie that isn't as emotionally draining and is a fun movie to work on.
Yes he calls it a popcorn flick. A fun joyride of a movie that doesn't have some great purpose to it or message or make you stop and re-evaluate your life in general.......That's what, I for one, am EXPECTING from this movie (The fun part, not the boring, re-evaluate my life part)
Like I said, mountain out of a molehill
Well he can't exactly say that this movie is stupid, otherwise he would proably be fired, and he didn't exactly say that he was happy to do this movie, he seemed to be embarrassed that he was doing it
CobraCoffee
03-29-2008, 06:04 PM
are you serious? I hate to break this to you...there isn't anything to be taken seriously in the movie or the character. you know nothing about acting if you think it requires the same effort or mind-frame to do a dramatic role where not only you are trying to illicit emotion in yourself and your performance and one where you are disguised in a cartoonish costume spouting lines like "You can't play nice with science, Duke" through a digitally altered voice because your character has no vocal chords.
the character is as 2 dimensional as can be. his dialogue isn't challenging and it doesn't require any depth or internal strife. there isn't a wrong way to represent the character. you go in, be big and over the top so children think you are menacing -- but not horrifying, and call it a day. that's it. and that is all Levitt said. I hate to break it to you, but not thinking Cobra Commander is a role that requires any semblance of seriousness doesn't make him the jackball.
and just because you feel something doesn't make you correct or beyond reproach. that is just a cop-out for not being logical. feelings can be based on misperceptions, and thus the feelings don't apply to what is actually true.
I think you trying to understand the way creating a character for an audience to enjoy and connect with is rather cute.But, again...swing and a miss. Is this 3 now?
I got news for ya, you're dissertation of my opinion of the video I posted is so utterly and completely wrong. If it didn't take actors some time to construct a persona for any given choice of role, we wouldn't have the great Joker from Jack Nicholson.. We wouldn't have Indiana Jones.. and we wouldn't have such a lively character like Jack Sparrow.The irreverence you show to these actors skills is astonishing.
The mere fact that an actor like Johnny Depp took a robot ride and turned into a major 3 piece blockbuster with a character that people talk about years after is proof enough that any role needs to be taken seriously. Though I do think that you may wanna take your opinions on how "acting gets done" and compare it to real live movie studios. Maybe it won't just be me who's getting a good chuckle over it. And you may learn something.
Anyway, I think Joe Levitt needs to hope this movie does well so he infact gets a more screen time seeing as the big D will be our enemy front an center.
CobraCoffee
03-29-2008, 06:05 PM
I was never really thrilled that he was going to be Cobra Commander from the get go. I thought he should be a token, throw him in, let him die and forget about him character - but no, the powers that be have decided he is the perfect fit for CC's shoes and this is the one thing (imho) that might drag this movie down.
I'm right there with ya bud, I just hope I get Dazzled. I guess I have a Van Helsing chip on my shoulder.
CobraCoffee
03-29-2008, 06:10 PM
Man you sound like an annoying fan boy, I though we were all above that :)
And I am the one labeled disparaging.
Anyway, GI Joe was the other white meat for alot of us. And while I don't sleep in Yoda-underoos like a SW Fanny, I still follow and enjoy the history quite closely like a .I'm sorry you feel it's not passionate enough to compete.
Cobra-Viper
03-29-2008, 07:02 PM
And I am the one labeled disparaging.
Anyway, GI Joe was the other white meat for alot of us. And while I don't sleep in Yoda-underoos like a SW Fanny, I still follow and enjoy the history quite closely like a .I'm sorry you feel it's not passionate enough to compete.
sigh, I didn't mean to 'flame' you and I apoligize for it, but the point I was trying to make was that you were over-reacting :)
C.I.A.D.
03-29-2008, 07:07 PM
Thanks for the clarification, C-V.
gunslingercbr
03-29-2008, 07:41 PM
I think you trying to understand the way creating a character for an audience to enjoy and connect with is rather cute.But, again...swing and a miss. Is this 3 now?
I got news for ya, you're dissertation of my opinion of the video I posted is so utterly and completely wrong. If it didn't take actors some time to construct a persona for any given choice of role, we wouldn't have the great Joker from Jack Nicholson.. We wouldn't have Indiana Jones.. and we wouldn't have such a lively character like Jack Sparrow.The irreverence you show to these actors skills is astonishing.
The mere fact that an actor like Johnny Depp took a robot ride and turned into a major 3 piece blockbuster with a character that people talk about years after is proof enough that any role needs to be taken seriously. Though I do think that you may wanna take your opinions on how "acting gets done" and compare it to real live movie studios. Maybe it won't just be me who's getting a good chuckle over it. And you may learn something.
Anyway, I think Joe Levitt needs to hope this movie does well so he infact gets a more screen time seeing as the big D will be our enemy front an center.
actually, you keep burying yourself with examples of your inability to be logical, not the other way around.
you have no idea how serious Johnny Depp or Jack Nicholson took their roles, whether they went home every night and analyzed the depths or the character, or whether they came in, had a good time, and went back about their business. how well the performance came out is not indicative how serious they took it. not to mention you haven't seen Levitt's performance, so you can't compare his attitude to theirs in regards to how it relates to the quality of performance -- again, a logical analysis of your position would reveal that flaw in your position.
come on, my wife is raging pregnant hormone machine and she is more sensible, rational, and logical than you. give me something to work with here.
being serious about the role doesn't mean it has to consume is being for the duration of the shooting. huge difference, which you seem not to be able to grasp.
theprocess
03-29-2008, 07:56 PM
It seems to me like he never got to play with action figures when he was a little kid...now he's too old to appreciate it.
apacolypse
03-29-2008, 08:27 PM
Is it just me...or has this gone waaaaaaaaaay off topic?
Blackdragon
03-29-2008, 08:30 PM
I wanna make sweet love to joseph Levitt.......oh yea and i think he was sayin it was just a fun movie :)
office viper
03-29-2008, 08:48 PM
actually, you keep burying yourself with examples of your inability to be logical, not the other way around.
you have no idea how serious Johnny Depp or Jack Nicholson took their roles, whether they went home every night and analyzed the depths or the character, or whether they came in, had a good time, and went back about their business. how well the performance came out is not indicative how serious they took it. not to mention you haven't seen Levitt's performance, so you can't compare his attitude to theirs in regards to how it relates to the quality of performance -- again, a logical analysis of your position would reveal that flaw in your position.
come on, my wife is raging pregnant hormone machine and she is more sensible, rational, and logical than you. give me something to work with here.
being serious about the role doesn't mean it has to consume is being for the duration of the shooting. huge difference, which you seem not to be able to grasp.
holy cow! i'm new. i get it! I think cobra coffee does'nt like the choice for cobra commander. I have been a long time fan of GI joe. I came away with the same impression from joseph in that interview. He seemed very impartial to the role maybe he was tired or strung out. the point to my little book report is he may give a terrible performance. This role needs someone powerful, not the kid from The never ending story, as hitler. ( I realize he did not play that role.)
I think even your wife could appreciate that...
Caliburn
03-29-2008, 09:03 PM
actually, you keep burying yourself with examples of your inability to be logical, not the other way around.
you have no idea how serious Johnny Depp or Jack Nicholson took their roles, whether they went home every night and analyzed the depths or the character, or whether they came in, had a good time, and went back about their business. how well the performance came out is not indicative how serious they took it. .
Actually you are wrong about Jack Nicholson and Johnny Depp! They both have gone on record (DVD commentaries, behind the scenes footage and interviews) on how serious and how method they took these roles! They became the character, they invested their soul into these characters. Remember Depp was going to be fired from Pirates if he did not tone down his performance - he stuck to his guns and owned that role. Jack has gone on record, even recently on how that role consumed him and he could relate to heath Ledger and the demons that followed playing the Joker. That's it!
copywrite
03-29-2008, 09:20 PM
Well he can't exactly say that this movie is stupid, otherwise he would proably be fired, and he didn't exactly say that he was happy to do this movie, he seemed to be embarrassed that he was doing it
He didn't seem embarrassed, he seemed caught off guard didn't want to say something he wasn't allowed to say. He knows he can't say anything about the movie except that it's not a war movie. He was just trying to be careful of his words. Plus, the interview was for Stop-Loss, not GI Joe. He wanted to stick to that topic. A lot of actors do that when the interviewer brings up new projects they're working on. They'll confirm, then go back to whatever movie they're promoting. It doesn't mean he feels embarrassed by the project, or doesn't care for it, it's just not the time to talk about it.
Caliburn
03-29-2008, 09:32 PM
100% correct. They are also contractually obligated to promote their film. As an actor they take roles that will further their career and or paycheck. So imagine he is promoting Stop-Loss, an "ANTI-WAR" movie and someone asks him about a science fiction film with elements of war. He is going to stay focused and on track.
C.I.A.D.
03-29-2008, 09:34 PM
Let's just all agree to disagree. There really is no further point to be made here. Some people feel Levitt was disrespectful, others don't.
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