do you want this years convention set to be o-ring or 25th style

[wild weasel]

I personnally want an O-ring set

how about you?

[Troynos]

25th

O-Ring is the past, should remain in the past.

[millville resident]

25th all the way. Better construction and durability. O ring was the past (and good enough for 20 years), 25th is the present and hopefully lasts just as long as the O ring did.

[Barefoot Jedi]

I think most of the items should be 25th/Modern BUT I think at least a 3-pack or something should be ARAH molds each year.

They do the 12" as homage to the original GIJOEs. Doing some O-Ring ARAH molds for the Con seems a proper way to honor the 3.75" legacy.

[Wizgillar]

O-ring. It's the only way we will ever continue to see them. 25th/ME style will continue regardless; regardless of the fact that the hands, feet and heads pop off so easily along with the numerous other flaws that will prevent them from lasting 20+ years.

[Roshan]

I really don't care which way they go, but I guess if I had to make a choice, I'd prefer o-ring. This is the kind of poll you really need to be at the collector's club panel at the con for to make any kind of difference.

[chief_1]

I wish there was a box we could check for "affordable"...

These sets are way out of my price range.

But if i come across a monkey's paw that let's me wish for a convention set, 25th all the way!

[Magick]

Well if anyone was at last years con and heard Brian talking about the future of the club... the o-ring molds are wearing out and since Hasbro has switched to modern/25th, they will no longer be making any o-ring figures. Meaning that the club will eventually go full 25th/ME style as well.

[Wizgillar]

Well if anyone was at last years con and heard Brian talking about the future of the club... the o-ring molds are wearing out and since Hasbro has switched to modern/25th, they will no longer be making any o-ring figures. Meaning that the club will eventually go full 25th/ME style as well.

Ugh, I remember hearing something about that now. Guess I will have to actually start my custom casting that I have toyed around with for a while now.

[Shogi]

Honestly, I'm undecided.

Eventually it'll all be 25th construction though given that molds are broken/destroyed throughout the years.

While I like the 25th construction I also keep looking at my club Shipwreck and Chuckles with a lot of fondness. These are two classic figures done in O-Ring style and neither even uses the original body! There is a downside to the O-Rings though. Given that the molds are few and far between, there's just some figures that can't be made (Apparently Shippy was one of these till the club converted his head mold to fit Cutter's body) and sometimes the parts selection is composed of parts I personally wish were never made (The AT sets O-Ring versions uses a torso I absolutely hate because the arms look like they come out of the torso too far down)

So there is the possibility that if the set is O-Rings that the parts used to make the figures could turn me off. But I also would like to see some O-Rings because as stated previously, this is the last place to see NEW O-Ring figures

[TARGETSIX]

Look, the club took some heat last year for rehashing the "crimson viper" stuff in 25th. But honestly, it was a really good set, I ended up with two. The crowning jewel however, was the show specials, (Argentina figures and blades). Those figures were incredible and I bought multiple sets. I own just about everything produced ARAH and 25th/modern, and at this point I just want 25th/modern all the way, no question. I go to the con for for the exclusives (only 25th now), vintage vehicles and previews of new product. A o-ring exclusive would be a MAJOR LETDOWN.

[CV2.0]

ME rules, O ring drools.

[VIPER109]

Its to bad you cant limit this poll to those who are Club members and plan to go to con/or buy this set.

Fact, you can get a 15 page thread on how it’s the end of the world that a retail ME fig is 7.99. Try 16-17 per fig because that’s what it breaks down to for a con set. If your not willing to reach in to your pocket and put down 1500 to go to con. You really shouldn’t care what the con set is, and I’ll tell you that the lions share of those that will go prefer o-rings.

Now I’m also going to say this. that I’m in 100% favor of O-rings never returning retail, ME is where its at and it should stay there, but I am also going to caution you all on this when the last sequel of ge joe is made the line as you know it is dead and I for see a lot of the fan base that started with ME will move on to something else. Trends almost never change and after 15 years of collecting I have seen a few.

[talldrkhansom]

25th

O-Ring is the past, should remain in the past.

I personally like 25th myself. Troynos say it best " O-ring is the past and should remain in the past."

[ChaplainAsst]

It doesn't matter as long as folks like Brokenarrow keep making molds of them. I probably will never purchase a convention, with some of the newer molds coming out, it would be nice to have a copy for a custom.

[Roshan]

Its to bad you cant limit this poll to those who are Club members and plan to go to con/or buy this set.



Which is why a poll like this MC won't even look once at. They value their show of hands polls at the panel with a room full of people who just bought $500+ worth of product from them.


It doesn't matter as long as folks like Brokenarrow keep making molds of them.

And for those of you who complain about these being too expensive, look at the custom casters like brokenarrow, and check their prices. MC is a steal in comparison. Not to say custom casters are a rip off, it's just really expensive to make a small run of figures.

[VIPER109]

Look, the club took some heat last year for rehashing the "crimson viper" stuff in 25th. But honestly, it was a really good set, I ended up with two. The crowning jewel however, was the show specials, (Argentina figures and blades). Those figures were incredible and I bought multiple sets. I own just about everything produced ARAH and 25th/modern, and at this point I just want 25th/modern all the way, no question. I go to the con for for the exclusives (only 25th now), vintage vehicles and previews of new product. A o-ring exclusive would be a MAJOR LETDOWN.

There is always an exception

[USAgent]

25th. Only thing the O-ring was good for was Super Karate Twist Battle Action

[VIPER109]

I also think this a mute point because it will never be about what the fan base wants its about what’s cheap to make and what will sale. Most people who go like me will buy the sets all most no mater what it is.

[alexan2dros]

25th please... orings is step back..

[A.V.A.C.]

I also think this a mute point because it will never be about what the fan base wants its about what’s cheap to make and what will sale. Most people who go like me will buy the sets all most no mater what it is.

qft.

[Roshan]

Sadly, yes, I'll buy pretty much whatever they throw out there. In the past 6 years the only thing I didn't buy from the con was the Warthog. At the time it felt too expensive for a new swirl deco. Still does.



I see that 25th is running away with it. It'd be nice if we had an additional question in the poll, 'would you spend $300 on the con set in the first place'.

[Troynos]

It'd be nice if we had an additional question in the poll, 'would you spend $300 on the con set in the first place'.

That question is too subjective though. For me, it's all about what the Con set is. I want it to be made in the ME style, but I won't say whether I'll spend $300 on it until I actually see what it is.

There's no way I would have bought the Crimson Strike Team set, just didn't interest me.

So this poll is good. It's asking how you want it made. I wouldn't be able to answer "will you buy it" until I know what IT is.

[VIPER109]

That question is too subjective though. For me, it's all about what the Con set is. I want it to be made in the ME style, but I won't say whether I'll spend $300 on it until I actually see what it is.

There's no way I would have bought the Crimson Strike Team set, just didn't interest me.

So this poll is good. It's asking how you want it made. I wouldn't be able to answer "will you buy it" until I know what IT is.

you probably represent the buying habits of a big segment of the people who would likely buy this set regardless of it being O-ring Vs. 25th/ME.
me as a side niche of my collection. I collect all con related items be MC, FX, SDCC, and so on.

by the way forgive my ignorance what does "qft" stand for?

[Troynos]

you probably represent the buying habits of a big segment of the people who would likely buy this set regardless of it being O-ring Vs. 25th/ME.
me as a side niche of my collection. I collect all con related items be MC, FX, SDCC, and so on.

by the way forgive my ignorance what does "qft" stand for?

I only collect what I like, simple as that.

QFT = internet shorthand for quoted for truth

[VIPER109]

QFT = internet shorthand for quoted for truth

thanks

[DPrime]

"qft" means quoted for truth. lol, for the longest time I assumed it meant "quit f*&king talking", basically the exact opposite!

I say modern era/25th style, but not because "o-ring is the past/o-ring sucks" blah blah blah. That's just ignorant. I hope the Club continues to offer o-ringed style exclusive Joes.

However, there are a LOT of holes in the 25th line, now that Hasbro is concentrating on the movie/PoC stuff, so that's one reason. Also, even if Hasbro DOES start to return to classic RAH character designs, it's unlikely that the foreign exclusives will be produced in 25th form, so there's another reason. Third, I think the Club really needs to bring in the "new blood" (i.e. 90% of Tankers) to start coming to the Con, and fourth... Well I'll just quote Shogi here...

Honestly, I'm undecided.

Eventually it'll all be 25th construction though given that molds are broken/destroyed throughout the years.

While I like the 25th construction I also keep looking at my club Shipwreck and Chuckles with a lot of fondness. These are two classic figures done in O-Ring style and neither even uses the original body! There is a downside to the O-Rings though. Given that the molds are few and far between, there's just some figures that can't be made (Apparently Shippy was one of these till the club converted his head mold to fit Cutter's body) and sometimes the parts selection is composed of parts I personally wish were never made (The AT sets O-Ring versions uses a torso I absolutely hate because the arms look like they come out of the torso too far down)

So there is the possibility that if the set is O-Rings that the parts used to make the figures could turn me off. But I also would like to see some O-Rings because as stated previously, this is the last place to see NEW O-Ring figures

Ditto. The possibilities are just about endless with the amount of 25th and movie-style parts. Heck, they could even use SW heads and accessories, if they were suitable.

Its to bad you cant limit this poll to those who are Club members and plan to go to con/or buy this set.

Fact, you can get a 15 page thread on how it’s the end of the world that a retail ME fig is 7.99. Try 16-17 per fig because that’s what it breaks down to for a con set. If your not willing to reach in to your pocket and put down 1500 to go to con. You really shouldn’t care what the con set is, and I’ll tell you that the lions share of those that will go prefer o-rings.

Now I’m also going to say this. that I’m in 100% favor of O-rings never returning retail, ME is where its at and it should stay there, but I am also going to caution you all on this when the last sequel of ge joe is made the line as you know it is dead and I for see a lot of the fan base that started with ME will move on to something else. Trends almost never change and after 15 years of collecting I have seen a few.

Excellent point. Seems like the vast majority of Joe collectors aren't willing to take that extra step, financially. I can appreciate that, if one can't afford it, but what about the people who will spend $200 so they can army build $15 HISS Tanks or buy ten sets of Cobra Island 7-packs? Sure, you're getting more for you money, but I go for quality (and by that, I mean a "quality" collection with exclusive, hard to find figures and vehicles) over quantity.

[Troynos]

Quality is subjective. The people that army build HISS Tanks like those, they may not like a $300 set of 15 figures. Some people might consider a better collection to be a larger one and not one that is just rares and exclusives.

Neither is right, neither is wrong.

How is "o-ring is past" being ignorant? It is in the past. It's past construction. ME is the new construction.

O-Ring sucks is a matter of opinion.

Personally, I don't think they suck, I like 'em and still get vintage to fill the holes in my collection. I just prefer ME for their poseability and detailing.

[JohnnyAngel77]

That question is too subjective though. For me, it's all about what the Con set is. I want it to be made in the ME style, but I won't say whether I'll spend $300 on it until I actually see what it is.

There's no way I would have bought the Crimson Strike Team set, just didn't interest me.

So this poll is good. It's asking how you want it made. I wouldn't be able to answer "will you buy it" until I know what IT is.But "would" doesn't mean "will" either. Maybe "would you be willing to spend $xxx amount, depending on what it is" would be better. Because I agree, it all depends on what IT is. Plenty of people will throw out their opinions and never have any intention of spending that much, regardless of what it is.

[MrClean]

O-ring. Simply put, the 25th style will continue to have a retail presence. O-ring should be the continuation of that style in club form. Just because they were done in the past, doesn't mean they should stay in the past. What about 12" figures? Should they stop making those too? Just because "modern collectors" don't want them is NO reason to disparage them.
I've collected them all, 12", ARAH, Savage, VvV, ST, JvC, S6, 25th, ROC, with the exception of Extreme. So, I don't have any reason to criticize what people like. Everybody likes different things.
And, this poll is going to be majorly skewed because hisstank is a 25th fansite that doesn't really cater to o-ringers.
(And despite how much I like 25th stuff too, my o-ring collection has not one, but two classic Cover Girl figures, along with many, many more characters yet to be done in modern style. 25th/ME isn't the be all end all of Joes just yet.)

[KushViper]

Sadly it seems I'm of the minority that likes the O-ring figures more. I hope to see this line continued at the collector level but from what I've read here today it sounds like they are history. I know a lot you tankers are all jazzed about the ME figure designs but I just don't really feel the connection to them now that the 25th ARAH line seems over. Don't get me wrong, I lOVE my extensive 25th collection but I've been collection joes since I was a kid and I'm 30. I'm just not ready to automatically buy in to everything hasbro has up its sleeve, they'll have to earn that. To me, G I Joes are O-ring figures and ARAH mythos. It will take something pretty rad to change that. I have a feeling that the O-ring design will stand the test of time and come back eventually.

[VIPER109]

"qft" means quoted for truth. lol, for the longest time I assumed it meant "quit f*&king talking", basically the exact opposite!

LOL thats what i was thinking.

I say modern era/25th style, but not because "o-ring is the past/o-ring sucks" blah blah blah. That's just ignorant. I hope the Club continues to offer o-ringed style exclusive Joes.

QFT, lol i wish people understand it turns people off the hearing their POV.

However, there are a LOT of holes in the 25th line, now that Hasbro is concentrating on the movie/PoC stuff, so that's one reason. Also, even if Hasbro DOES start to return to classic RAH character designs, it's unlikely that the foreign exclusives will be produced in 25th form, so there's another reason. Third, I think the Club really needs to bring in the "new blood" (i.e. 90% of Tankers) to start coming to the Con, and fourth... Well I'll just quote Shogi here...

if it got 90% i would be all for it, but with the retail end of 25th for roc and now poc it became a movie toy. i fear it drives more collectors away than brings in

Ditto. The possibilities are just about endless with the amount of 25th and movie-style parts. Heck, they could even use SW heads and accessories, if they were suitable.

its the grim reality i know but a boy can dream cant he.

Excellent point. Seems like the vast majority of Joe collectors aren't willing to take that extra step, financially. I can appreciate that, if one can't afford it, but what about the people who will spend $200 so they can army build $15 HISS Tanks or buy ten sets of Cobra Island 7-packs? Sure, you're getting more for you money, but I go for quality (and by that, I mean a "quality" collection with exclusive, hard to find figures and vehicles) over quantity.

Quality is so subjective its not funny and we can go back and forth on this all day long. Sure to the average person they pose better but to someone like me their poses make them look like realistic armatures. As far as quality of construction sure o-ring brake big deal I have grenades off the viper rattling around in my fang/claw box. Lets see how they hold up after 20+ years.

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Quality is subjective. The people that army build HISS Tanks like those, they may not like a $300 set of 15 figures. Some people might consider a better collection to be a larger one and not one that is just rares and exclusives.

i love it when it takes me so long to make my post that someone makes my points for me LOL

[Troynos]

And, this poll is going to be majorly skewed because hisstank is a 25th fansite that doesn't really cater to o-ringers.



I'd argue that point. I think the majority of the people on the 'Tank are O-Ringers first over 25th, or like me and do both.

[snakeeyes22]

O-Ring.
This is a selfish choice because I don't want another modern style set that I can't afford. Last year's stuff depressed me, I almost considered trading my Defiant for it!

I'm sure its too late now to change what's decided. i have a feeling this year will be the Mercenaries set. I will cry if I see a modern Mortal that is out of my grasp. Especially if its packed with $200 worth of jerks I don't want.

[Roshan]

That question is too subjective though. For me, it's all about what the Con set is. I want it to be made in the ME style, but I won't say whether I'll spend $300 on it until I actually see what it is.

There's no way I would have bought the Crimson Strike Team set, just didn't interest me.


That's the problem with last year's set. It wasn't a good referendum for anything. It didn't sell out most likely due to it being a straight rehash of stuff most people already had. Now if they really mix up this year's set with ME stuff with the same kind of quality as the con extras this year, we'll really see how well people take to it. The only thing that sold out last year at the con itself and did so on Friday within the first hour or so was the action force Blades.

[jaimanstone]

I personnally want an O-ring set

how about you?

o-ring, o-ring, o-ring.

[Roshan]

O-Ring.
This is a selfish choice because I don't want another modern style set that I can't afford. Last year's stuff depressed me, I almost considered trading my Defiant for it!

I'm sure its too late now to change what's decided. i have a feeling this year will be the Mercenaries set. I will cry if I see a modern Mortal that is out of my grasp. Especially if its packed with $200 worth of jerks I don't want.

I assume that given you live in Delaware you can make the con? Just as a hypothetical say Mortal is in the set. If so, just buy the con set and the loose set. Sell the con set at cost and sell the bag set individually and I doubt you'd pay more than $10 for a loose mortal when all was said and done. Even if you can't attend buy a non-attendee package and do the same thing.

[Derek2783]

I'm for 25th.

I have a soft spot for the vintage o-rings, but I have no interest in new ones. If you're creating a new figure, do it up in the modern style.

[jaimanstone]

25th

O-Ring is the past, should remain in the past.

The 25th line is in the past as well. Perhaps they should remain gone as well?

[VIPER109]

I'm for 25th.

I have a soft spot for the vintage o-rings, but I have no interest in new ones. If you're creating a new figure, do it up in the modern style.

so i take it you are going to con or buying a home front set.

[atomicpower]

I'll never shell out the cash to buy a convention set, so if they use O-rings, it'll be much less traumatic because I won't even want to buy it. O-rings all the way.

[Zoltron]

25th + extra ELSA points if they give us Red Shadows/Iron Klaw figures!

[kneroh]

Embracing the modern era figs over the o ring was the easiest thing I've ever done as a collector!

[snakeeyes22]

I assume that given you live in Delaware you can make the con? Just as a hypothetical say Mortal is in the set. If so, just buy the con set and the loose set. Sell the con set at cost and sell the bag set individually and I doubt you'd pay more than $10 for a loose mortal when all was said and done. Even if you can't attend buy a non-attendee package and do the same thing.

Yeah, I can't really leave the family behind unless its a short drive. I know if I got my hands on a set, I would be incapable of selling off the ones I thought I didn't want! Selling the boxed version isn't a bad idea though.

[Troynos]

The 25th line is in the past as well. Perhaps they should remain gone as well?

25th=ME, the new style that isn't going away.

Talking figure styles here, not packaging.

[Djinvasor]

I would go with the o-ring. Vintage style is still my favorite.

[jaimanstone]

25th=ME, the new style that isn't going away.

Talking figure styles here, not packaging.

I'm not talking packaging style. The 25th (faithful updates of ARAH o-ring figures) line was canceled by Hasbro and the focus turned to ROC. Now ROC will give way to POC. I have not seen any 25th style figures in those lines. I am just saying that if ARAH figures are in the past due to being replaced by 25th and "should stay there" then perhaps the 25th style (faithful updates of ARAH figures) should remain in the past too as the 25th line has been replaced by ROC and POC.

ARAH o-ring style figures were replaced with: Sgt. Savage, GI JOE Extreme, VvV, Spy Troops, Sigma 6, DTC, etc but have always come back. If the o-rings belong in the past, then why does the collector club have an o-ring figure as its club exclusive this year?

I really don't understand the o-ring hate on this board. the ME line is the new and current JOE line but why does that mean that o-rings should go away forever? Why can't we have both? In my opinion, the convention exclusives should only be o-ring figures. The main line is more than enough to satiate the ME collector, why take one of the only remaining outlets for o-ring collectors away? ME collectors get to buy their figures for $7.99 or less at retail, while the o-ring collectors purchasing the once a year set from the con pay a hell of a lot more than that for their few tidbits.

I was sorely disappointed that last years set was ME and I hope the club will realize and reward the o-ringers who have kept the club alive all these years.

[Troynos]

I don't see any O-Ring hate. I just see people wanting the new style of figure.

I don't think anyone is saying ARAH designs "should stay there", people are saying the O-Ring style of construction should.

Me, I want a mix of new and old. I want new designs and I wouldn't mind if there was a second line or online exclusives or whatever where Hasbro continued the ARAH designs.

I think it's Joe fans that have been keeping the Club alive all these years.

[Roshan]

I have not seen any 25th style figures in those lines.



I've seen plenty. Monkeywrench, Charbroil, Kamakura, Night Creeper, just to name a couple.

[MrClean]

I really don't understand the o-ring hate on this board. the ME line is the new and current JOE line but why does that mean that o-rings should go away forever? Why can't we have both? In my opinion, the convention exclusives should only be o-ring figures. The main line is more than enough to satiate the ME collector, why take one of the only remaining outlets for o-ring collectors away? ME collectors get to buy their figures for $7.99 or less at retail, while the o-ring collectors purchasing the once a year set from the con pay a hell of a lot more than that for their few tidbits.


I think this is well said and I agree.

[Troynos]

The Club is the G.I. Joe fanclub and has to cater to all the Joe fans out there. It's not just the O-Ring fan club, or the ARAH fan club, or the 12" fan club.

I'm sure there ultimate choice would be to do a set for the 12", o-ring and new style fans.

But they can't. So they do what they can to cover the two main Joe fan bases: the 12" and the 1:18 scale. And for the 3 3/4" (1:18) scale, or whatever you want to call it, they have to use the molds they can get their hands on. If they can't get o-ring anymore, then they have to make ME style.

[topnotch97]

would that be original or crispy? :D

[jaimanstone]

I've seen plenty. Monkeywrench, Charbroil, Kamakura, Night Creeper, just to name a couple.

Buy those figures in large are not exact updates. Different uniforms and colors. The core figures of the 25th are updates, but faithful to the original designs.

[jaimanstone]

The Club is the G.I. Joe fanclub and has to cater to all the Joe fans out there. It's not just the O-Ring fan club, or the ARAH fan club, or the 12" fan club.

I'm sure there ultimate choice would be to do a set for the 12", o-ring and new style fans.

But they can't. So they do what they can to cover the two main Joe fan bases: the 12" and the 1:18 scale. And for the 3 3/4" (1:18) scale, or whatever you want to call it, they have to use the molds they can get their hands on. If they can't get o-ring anymore, then they have to make ME style.

Troynos, I'm just a little agitated. When people start bagging on the ARAH o-rings, it really gets my goat. It seems that some on the boards have no respect for those figures and their place in history.

[Troynos]

Hear people having no respect for Extreme, VvV or Spytroops and their place in history.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone bagging on O-Rings. Most of us started our Joe obsession with o-rings.

Not wanting new figures made in the o-ring style is not bagging on them in any way shape or form. Just reflecting an opinion that the o-ring construction had it's time and place and people prefer the new and more modern ME construction.

O-ring gave way to new sculpt which gave way to ME and someday the ME will give way to something else.

[samantha]

I won't be buying a Set this year but if I was I would want it 25th style.

[DPrime]

Troynos, I'm just a little agitated. When people start bagging on the ARAH o-rings, it really gets my goat. It seems that some on the boards have no respect for those figures and their place in history.

Agreed, I have seen this too.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone bagging on O-Rings. Most of us started our Joe obsession with o-rings.

Really? I've seen it way too often on this board.

By no means am I accusing the majority of 25th collectors here, not at all. But a few have been pretty rude about it from time to time. I agree with jaimanstone, it bothers me when it happens too.

Not wanting new figures made in the o-ring style is not bagging on them in any way shape or form. Just reflecting an opinion that the o-ring construction had it's time and place and people prefer the new and more modern ME construction.

That's very true, and I don't think anyone is accusing you or anyone else of that. Heck, I voted for 25th as well, but whenever this type of discussion pops up, someone just has to go and say the people who prefer RAH are "living in the past" and can't get with the times, or say something about their "big stupid heads" etc. It's insulting.

I mean, we're all toy collectors here - there are plenty of people outside the hobby who think what we ALL do here is stupid, so there's no need to rag on each other. To each his own.

[DPrime]

Quality is subjective. The people that army build HISS Tanks like those, they may not like a $300 set of 15 figures. Some people might consider a better collection to be a larger one and not one that is just rares and exclusives.

Neither is right, neither is wrong.

Oh I know that. I can totally see why someone would prefer to do that as well. I'm just saying that it's a different way to look at the price if you REALLY want these.

I mean, we're all spending $300+ on this hobby one way or the other - when you look at it from a different perspective, maybe it doesn't seem so expensive. For example, a lot of us tend to buy from different lines (I have a lot in the past myself, and still do a LITTLE) but if you REALLY want to buy the more expensive stuff, why not give up one of the lines you don't care about as much?

Yeah, it's all about personal preferences, of course, but if you REALLY want one of these sets, well, maybe don't buy the stuff you DON'T want as much, even if it is cheaper and you can get more of them. Just another way of looking at things.

[VIPER109]

Oh I know that. I can totally see why someone would prefer to do that as well. I'm just saying that it's a different way to look at the price if you REALLY want these.

I mean, we're all spending $300+ on this hobby one way or the other - when you look at it from a different perspective, maybe it doesn't seem so expensive. For example, a lot of us tend to buy from different lines (I have a lot in the past myself, and still do a LITTLE) but if you REALLY want to buy the more expensive stuff, why not give up one of the lines you don't care about as much?

Yeah, it's all about personal preferences, of course, but if you REALLY want one of these sets, well, maybe don't buy the stuff you DON'T want as much, even if it is cheaper and you can get more of them. Just another way of looking at things.

my head hurts

[Rocky]

25th for me and I am not looking back.

[jaimanstone]

Hear people having no respect for Extreme, VvV or Spytroops and their place in history.

Not the same. The ARAH line has been around in some way or form almost every years since 1982. The ARAH line is the grand daddy of all 3 3/4 inch joes.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone bagging on O-Rings.

I have seen it multiple times since the 25th came out.

Whenever this type of discussion pops up, someone just has to go and say the people who prefer RAH are "living in the past" and can't get with the times, or say something about their "big stupid heads" etc. It's insulting.

I mean, we're all toy collectors here - there are plenty of people outside the hobby who think what we ALL do here is stupid, so there's no need to rag on each other. To each his own.

^^^this^^^

[DPrime]

How is "o-ring is past" being ignorant? It is in the past. It's past construction. ME is the new construction.

It can be a little rude, depending on how it's said.

Of course I don't have a problem with the way you're saying it, it's when people bash others implying - or outright saying - that they need to get with the times, or they're "stuck in the past" etc. It's in that context that I have a problem with it, not the way you're putting it.

Think of it this way. Remember how the whole theme of The Forty-Year-Old Virgin was that he had to "move on" from toy collecting and "grow up"? Was I the only one who found that a little insulting?

According to some people, anyone who collects toys is obviously "living in the past". It's a bit ridiculous for fellow toy collectors to start accusing others of that.

ME rules, O ring drools.

25th. Only thing the O-ring was good for was Super Karate Twist Battle Action

^^^^ O-ring bashing. ;)

Just kidding, jokes are all good.

Sadly, yes, I'll buy pretty much whatever they throw out there. In the past 6 years the only thing I didn't buy from the con was the Warthog. At the time it felt too expensive for a new swirl deco. Still does.

Did that also have the "swirl" deco? I thought it was just desert tan?

I hate that swirl camo look.

[Troynos]

[QUOTE=jaimanstone;1345501]Not the same. The ARAH line has been around in some way or form almost every years since 1982. The ARAH line is the grand daddy of all 3 3/4 inch joes.
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But making comments about not wanting O-Ring is no where near saying that ARAH should remain in the past or anything like that.