Your MOST WANTED vehicles! (aka the vehicles you want to see return)

[Shin Densetsu]

The anniversary is upon us, and this is OUR YEAR! Now is the best time to tell hasbro what you want back!

Here is mine:

Ice Sabre
Skystriker
SHARC
Night Raven
FANG II
Dragonfly
Destro's Dominator
X-16 Ghoststriker
Hurricane VTOL
Sea Ray
HISS II
Rattler
Skyhawk


List yours!

[shawntur]

My list would be:
Hurricane
Stinger
Firebat
Whale

[flash70]

My Lista:::

COBRA:

Stinger
ASP
Flight pod
Hurricane
Mamba
Maggot
WOLF
Condor



JOE:

Vamp
HAL
JUMP
Raider
Rolling Thunder
Defiant space complex
Whale
Devilfish
Skyhawk
Tomahawk
Apache without sonic fighter stuff

[Flint]

Dragonfly
Stinger
JUMP
Headquarters (original design)
Asp
Rattler

[Tin_Trencher]

Good call on the Skystriker, Ice Sabre, and Defiant!

VAMP packaged with MMS. Maybe a slight redesign of the VAMP seating area to accomodate bigger Joe's?

Moray Hydrofoil I

Stinger w/ some slight mod. Maybe an interchangeable missile pod/gun/laser battery. Also the Rattler 4WD w/ Vypra. Keep the urban camo look.

Hiss I w/ Driver

It would be cool to see some other jets like the F-18 Hornet for the Flagg. Then they could package the Flagg with the Hornet. Ok, so that would be living in a dream world. I don't think they'll ever make the Flagg again.

[Spirit-Iron_Lun]

Alot of great choices

My list is:

Whale hovercraft
Tomahawk
APC
Trubble Bubble
Stinger/Vamp
Bridge Layer
Rattler in original colors
HISS II in black
Rolling Thunder
STUN

[DESTRO]

The rest of my list is already on its way.

V1 Bat 25th Style Remake

Updated 25th Trubble Bubble

Updated 25th Skystriker

Updated 25th Hiss Tank


Updated 25th Rattler

[Shin Densetsu]

Oh man I'm all for a skystriker so long as its still based on the F-14 Tomcat!

[flash70]

Ok, lets here it 'tankers what are you favorite joe playsets that you would like to see released....

My Bunch,

Joe Headquarters - 1983
All Battle Stations - 1984
Transportable battle platform - 1985
Terror Drome - 1986

In addition, it would be a great to see the cobra missile command updated with a plastic base and real shooting missiles and gun emplacments with areas for tele-vipers and a cool command seat for cobra commander.

[Spirit-Iron_Lun]

The General
83 Joe HQ
Terrordrome
the mini playsets from 84-85
The Defiant

[General Scarlett]

Yeah, so EVERYTHING listed above............QUADRUPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[apacolypse]

Any and all.

I'm a huge playset fan....so I'd be happy with any re-releases...or new playsets.

[Shogi]

I don't need anything big:

the mini playsets from 84-85
TTBP or something like it

[Shin Densetsu]

*merged threads since they were similar in nature*

The terrordome would be awesome. If they do an updated one(all new mold) they can make it modular, so you can keep attaching as many pieces as you like. So you can start off with a big terrordome, and end up with a HUGE one. For the brilliance of modular playsets in joe scale, check out Card inc.'s Harry Potter playsets in the new Tomart's magazine; a shining example of why joe scale is ideal for vehicles and playsets.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Spytroops cobra mountain playset, and the 2nd gijoe hq.

[Shin Densetsu]

The rest of my list is already on its way.

V1 Bat 25th Style Remake

Updated 25th Trubble Bubble

Updated 25th Skystriker

Updated 25th Hiss Tank


Updated 25th Rattler

So long as the Skystriker is still based on the F-14 and the Rattler is still A-10 based, I'm all for it!

Also, I would like to see the proportions remain good. The original vehicles had good proportions compared to more recent ones. For example, 1 look at the skystriker you see a well fighter plane unmistakenly based on the F-14. With the Rattler you see a well proportioned derivative of the A-10. The cockpits may have been roomier on the toys for the sake of fitting gijoe figures inside, but nothing else is sacrificed, everything else is still in proportion. The original vehicles were almost never to scale with the figures, they were usually underscaled, but nonetheless, none of them had bloated proportions. Everything resembled their real life counterparts well until you hit the cockpit interiors, but this is understandable and still kept vehicles at a great size for playing. Compare this to the Thunderwing. It looks like a bloated F-22. Would it be this way without the electronic gimmick? probably not.

So the skystriker had better proportions and more closely resembled its real life counterpart far more than the thunderwing did. The ghost striker exceled at this too. Even the Liquidator, as small as it was.

So thats what I'd want in updated vehicles. Vehicles with good proportions, proportionate to their real life counterparts and no bloatedness, yet enough room for a joe figure to sit in. The skystriker was a shining example of how this was possible. In fact, if you didn't see the joe figures in cockpit, it would just be a regular F-14 toy with realistic proportions! One cannot say the same for the Thunderwing. The thunderwing is fun, but its built from a different premise, one that might not appeal to us older folks.

As a matter of fact, its my opinion that joe strayed away from this formula after the NAC was made in 2002. After that we got a bloated HISS, chubby ground vehicles and the chubby/squashed Skysweeper. With the skysweeper it was more like "okay we are going to make a F-117 deformed around a gijoe, rather than make a proportionate F-117 and scoop out enough room in the cockpit for him". See what I mean? Compare the X-30 Conquest to the skysweeper. Big difference.

The DTC vehicles were a step in the right direction and since this year leading to next is our year, I hope the ARAH direction of well proportioned vehicles prevails in an updated form.

"I'd take a reissue skystriker, and an updated Skystriker based on an F-14!"

Add to that, I want a Solar Stiletto, that cobra spaceship from the late 80's.

Storm Eagle(Small but not bloated and out of proportion looking, looks more like a YF-23 than the thunderwing looks like the F-22)
Liquidator

[C.I.A.D.]

Dang....my list could go on forever...

The essentials, for me I guess would be....

Sky Hawk, Trouble Bubble, Ferret, Moccasin, Night Raven, Dragon Fly, Surveillance Port, Bunker, Defiant Shuttle Complex...

I need to stop now before I'm still posting this 3 hours later.

[Shin Densetsu]

Dang....my list could go on forever...

The essentials, for me I guess would be....

Sky Hawk, Trouble Bubble, Ferret, Moccasin, Night Raven, Dragon Fly, Surveillance Port, Bunker, Defiant Shuttle Complex...

I need to stop now before I'm still posting this 3 hours later.


Hey man just add them as you remember them. My memory wasn't the clearest when I posted mine and theres a ton more. It makes for good conversation!

Here are some I remembered again.

Tomohawk
WHALE
Mamba
FANG II
Crusader Shuttle(my parents bought this for me on xmas 89 and convinced me it was for a family friend, they had me convinced so well, i was crying about it and whatnot, lo and behold xmas morning it was mine! I'll never forget those 2 days, that was the best joe xmas I ever had! Actually that or xmas 98 when the joe reissues came out, god I love those figures!)

[sharke]

Tomahawk
Stinger
Hydrofoil
Snowcat

[tkprime]

Zartans swamp skier
copperhead's boat
the A.P.C.
the Killer Whale
The U.S.S. Flagg
the stinger jeep
the V.A.M.P.
an updated MOBAT (they could repaint the grizzley green!

bring back the night attack chopper and crimson attack chopper

give us flag points and a proper mail away program!

the cobra terror drome with launchable firebat!

the 83 command center repaited and with new electronics and include Col.. Sharp!

give us what you've given star wars fans, ( a huge vehicle collection, with attention to detail.

and for GOD's sake let us put them together to save on costs like the good ol' days!

[Shin Densetsu]

Zartans swamp skier
copperhead's boat
the A.P.C.
the Killer Whale
The U.S.S. Flagg
the stinger jeep
the V.A.M.P.
an updated MOBAT (they could repaint the grizzley green!

bring back the night attack chopper and crimson attack chopper

give us flag points and a proper mail away program!

the cobra terror drome with launchable firebat!

the 83 command center repaited and with new electronics and include Col.. Sharp!

give us what you've given star wars fans, ( a huge vehicle collection, with attention to detail.

and for GOD's sake let us put them together to save on costs like the good ol' days!

YES I LOVE IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially the comment on star wars.

[wolfsniper83]

My list for updated Joe vehicles:

Vamp Mk.3
Silver Mirage Motorcycle
Killer Whale (based on the Marines LCAC)
Skyhawk VTOL
Fang
Terror Drome
Night Raven
SNAKE Armor/Powered Suit
Zartan's Swamp Ski
Thunder Machine
Tomahawk (Based on the Blackhawk)
Havoc

[sombras]

For me
Cobra Vehicles:
Cobra Sky Hawk
Phyton HISS
Whater Mocassin

G.I.joe Vehicles:
Vamp with MMS
Sky Hawk
TomaHawk
USS Flagg

[Colder Soldier]

Does it really matter being that the new figures can't even fit into vehicles?

Well if they ever DO get around to fixing that problem, I need a new Cobra TRUBBLE BUBBLE. That was an essential troop-building vehicle that you can never find vintage in great condition.

And of course the USS FLAGG, TERROR DROME, and Space Shuttle DEFIANT. Keep them all $250 and below and... ah, a man can dream.

[jmc2915]

My Dream Joe Toys for the 25th Series is...

S.N.A.K.E., Nightraven, Vamp, Stinger, B.A.T., Viper, Sgt. Slaughter, Crimson Guards, The Cobra-La Team, & A Serpentor V.1 Not the Image version.

[Shin Densetsu]

Does it really matter being that the new figures can't even fit into vehicles?

Well if they ever DO get around to fixing that problem, I need a new Cobra TRUBBLE BUBBLE. That was an essential troop-building vehicle that you can never find vintage in great condition.

And of course the USS FLAGG, TERROR DROME, and Space Shuttle DEFIANT. Keep them all $250 and below and... ah, a man can dream.
It does. Hasbro is fixing the issue now and hoping their results are seen as early as early 08.

[Agent-GHQ]

That is great news! But for $250- i'm kind of iffy on that price.

[Kambei]

VAMP Mk 1
RAM
HAL
Stinger
HISS Mk 1
Water Moccasin
MOBAT
JUMP

[Lt. Faceless]

That is great news! But for $250- i'm kind of iffy on that price.

I agree,250 is WAY out of my price range.

[Shogi]

Does it really matter being that the new figures can't even fit into vehicles?

Well if they ever DO get around to fixing that problem, I need a new Cobra TRUBBLE BUBBLE. That was an essential troop-building vehicle that you can never find vintage in great condition.

And of course the USS FLAGG, TERROR DROME, and Space Shuttle DEFIANT. Keep them all $250 and below and... ah, a man can dream.


I've already tested a few vintage vehicles with the 25th Joes, Trubble Bubble and AWE Striker both work great! Those are my top two vehicles to be remade/updated

[Shin Densetsu]

That is great news! But for $250- i'm kind of iffy on that price.
I was replying about the hips being fixed to enable the figures to sit better. I doubt the FLAGG will come back out. If it does, I will be amazed. To be honest, I'm surprised it even came out back in the 80's. There has been nothing to top that vehicle in this scale, not from joes, not from any other line. Thats how unique it was, thats how great it was. It cannot be topped, not without paying a small fortune.

I do hope that it does come out though. Thats got to be historic, a 3-3/4" scaled 7 foot long playset. Not even Kenner's Death Star playset for the Star Wars line was that big!

[Colder Soldier]

That is great news! But for $250- i'm kind of iffy on that price.

Aww, c'mon. I admit, $250 is a grip, but you would'nt pay that for a BRAND NEW, Reissued, USS Flagg or Defiant? That would be great compared to the Ebay prices for a vintage ones.

We're paying $100 a pop on Masterpiece Transformers. $250 for 7 feet of Flagg would be AWESOME! Yeah, let's get Hasbro on this (as if they'd ever do it)! Be good Americans. Repeat after me: Reissue Flagg! Reissue Flagg...!

[Shin Densetsu]

Aww, c'mon. I admit, $250 is a grip, but you would'nt pay that for a BRAND NEW, Reissued, USS Flagg or Defiant? That would be great compared to the Ebay prices for a vintage ones.

We're paying $100 a pop on Masterpiece Transformers. $250 for 7 feet of Flagg would be AWESOME! Yeah, let's get Hasbro on this (as if they'd ever do it)! Be good Americans. Repeat after me: Reissue Flagg! Reissue Flagg...!
That is a good price considering buying one and the pieces to make it complete on ebay can fetch nearly $1,000 out of box.

[Agent-GHQ]

We're paying $100 a pop on Masterpiece Transformers. $250 for 7 feet of Flagg would be AWESOME! Yeah, let's get Hasbro on this (as if they'd ever do it)! Be good Americans. Repeat after me: Reissue Flagg! Reissue Flagg...!

Ok, you have a point there. But Hasbro better not do a half-ass job on the Flagg or the Defiant. Like add on a few more details as they did with the 25th anniv figures.
Definitely, a lot cheaper than the originals selling on evil-Bay!

[sharke]

Aww, c'mon. I admit, $250 is a grip, but you would'nt pay that for a BRAND NEW, Reissued, USS Flagg or Defiant? That would be great compared to the Ebay prices for a vintage ones.

We're paying $100 a pop on Masterpiece Transformers. $250 for 7 feet of Flagg would be AWESOME! Yeah, let's get Hasbro on this (as if they'd ever do it)! Be good Americans. Repeat after me: Reissue Flagg! Reissue Flagg...!

yeah, I cant say anything since I keep paying that 100 dollars over and over for the same piece of plastic just painted deferently

[topnotch97]

hey i'm down with the USS Flag. even if it cost me $250.

i mean, people are buying Wii's and even bought those Butterscotch Pony. LOL!!!

[b24sharky]

Whale
Skystriker
Tomahawk
Devilfish
Dragonfly
Mobat
Vamp Marks
Whirlwind
Conquest X-30
Stealth Fighter
Snowcat
A.W.E Striker
Hiss
Stinger
ASP
Rattler
Water Moccasin
Thunder Machine
Hydrofoil
Condor
Night Raven
Wolf
Mamba
Fang
And yes, The Flagg and Terror Drome would be Sweeeeet!!!!!!

[Uxi]

USS Flagg
Phantom X19
Sky Striker (more accurate ala BBI)
NightRaven (i had 2 of these).

It makes me weep to think of all the great vehicles I had in perfect condition (especially the X19) that my parents gave away. :( At least I still have most, if not all, of my vintage figs.

Considering how much I've spent on Valkyries, I'd be willing to spend up to $300 or so for something like the Flagg. How much was it's original MSRP back in 85 anyway? I never saw it in stores.

[Shin Densetsu]

USS Flagg
Phantom X19
Sky Striker (more accurate ala BBI)
NightRaven (i had 2 of these).

It makes me weep to think of all the great vehicles I had in perfect condition (especially the X19) that my parents gave away. :( At least I still have most, if not all, of my vintage figs.

Considering how much I've spent on Valkyries, I'd be willing to spend up to $300 or so for something like the Flagg. How much was it's original MSRP back in 85 anyway? I never saw it in stores.
When I saw it in 1987-88, it was $99.99 if I am not mistaken, same goes for the Defiant.

[Agent-GHQ]

Yup, $99 was the retail for the Flagg back in the day:) I remmber it clearly when I was a kid strolling through TRU. I just don't understand why I was not into it then, until I reached adulthood, weird.

[kingofpain26]

yeah, WIth THIS days economy, I don't reallyt see any toy company making any big playsets anymore.

....but if parents will shell out 500 bucks for an Xbox,........ who knows?

I would like to see some of the older, smaller vehicles and playsets come back, like the Watchtower or Biouvac, or vehicles like the Devilfish, Flight Pod(trouble Bubble), and F.A.N.G. that way, a low buying price would enable us to buy a lot, and increase our "army Builders" equipment.

as for big vehicles. I would like to see the WHale come out, or a New H.I.S.S> tank, but based off the ORIGINAL design, sort of an updated tech on an original theme.

[sharke]

yeah, WIth THIS days economy, I don't reallyt see any toy company making any big playsets anymore.


I think alot of big vehicles/playsets future will rest on the shoulders of the "upcoming" AT-TE and how well it does

[Cobra Commander]

Night Raven, Condor, W.O.L.F, Crusader, Thanderclap, Rolling Thunder, Mamba, Skystriker, H.A.V.O.C, Tomahawk, Maggot, A.P.C, Flagg, Defiant

[kingofpain26]

I think alot of big vehicles/playsets future will rest on the shoulders of the "upcoming" AT-TE and how well it does


True. We may see a re release of the Whale, but I dont think we'll ever see the likes of the Defiant, or Flagg again.

another issue is the original molds, a lot of the original molds are now lost. ( Know that was the issue they said at the last convention, that holds up Hasbro and Mastercollector)

[CaptainDinobot]

DragonFly
SkyStriker
F.A.N.G.
H.I.S.S. tank
G.I.Joe Headquaters
Killer W.H.A.L.E. hovercraft
slugger
rattler
U.S.S. Flagg
tomahawk
H.A.V.O.C.
Defiant

[Tin_Trencher]

True. We may see a re release of the Whale, but I dont think we'll ever see the likes of the Defiant, or Flagg again.

another issue is the original molds, a lot of the original molds are now lost. ( Know that was the issue they said at the last convention, that holds up Hasbro and Mastercollector)

They could create a new mold and fix some of the issues with the originals such as the fans and missile launchers on the WHALE. Key word...could.

It would be cool to see a HISS tank come out with interchangeable weapons, so you could platform it to be all missiles, or big guns, or what have you.

[kingofpain26]

They could create a new mold and fix some of the issues with the originals such as the fans and missile launchers on the WHALE. Key word...could.

It would be cool to see a HISS tank come out with interchangeable weapons, so you could platform it to be all missiles, or big guns, or what have you.


UH, the DTC version kinda has that function.


I for one, if they do decide to make new mods, go back to having a somewhat realistic style vehiclesLike cobra getting slightly modified Migs, or Joes getting a decent APC (one that holds at least 10 figures)

And I would love to see Hasbro's take on a G.I.Joe Blackhawk. Or maybe a cargo plane large enough to fit vehicles inside.

[GIformerFan]

My list is
-Rattler
-H.I.S.S
-USS Flagg

[Blackdragon]

I'm really hoping they're gonna make Original Serpentor with his air chariot and Zartan with his chameleon swamp skier. :D

[TSgt Talon]

uhhh...yeah, what they said

[rsneal1]

1) Cobra Flight pod (Trubble Bubble)
2) Serpentor's air chariot
3) Terror dome

[Obiwanjacoby]

I've always dreamed of a Python hydrofoil, or any other Python vehicle for that matter. As such, I am a hewge fan of Carnage 717's customs. :cool:

-PJ

[InfiniteJest]

Yup, $99 was the retail for the Flagg back in the day:) I remmber it clearly when I was a kid strolling through TRU.

Same here, I remember they kept them up on the top shelf and I would look up at it in awe. I wanted that sucker so bad, I even remember going around the house measuring out seven feet figuring out where I could keep it.

But a hundred bones back in the day was like a small fortune for a kid.

[Funnel Rat]

Gotta be the Tomahawk all the way. And I always wanted the sweet Cobra Transport Copter that was in the Marvel comics, so I could have a "Copter Off".

And I always had a real softspot for the Warthog.

[ogre_h]

Hmm
I think I'd go for

Cobra:
Stinger
Flight Pod
Night Landing
CLAW
Snake
Night Raven
Mamba

Joe
Tomahawk maybe a Nightforce Black Version
VAMP
MMS
HAL
FLAK
RAM
Silver Mirage
Night Force or Black Killer WHALE
I have to say the first couple years 82-85 had some pretty cool vehicles. So any of those would be fine by me

[Shogi]

I think alot of big vehicles/playsets future will rest on the shoulders of the "upcoming" AT-TE and how well it does


That would work well for more Star Wars vehicles, unfortunately as of right now Star Wars toys sell better than Joes (At least that's what most stores think) If they were to base big Joe vehicle sales on the sales of big Star Wars vehicles they could just look at last year's Imperial Shuttle and how well it sold

[kingofpain26]

well, the Newer vehicles will depend on the popularity of the Movie, and the success on the exclusive Target Hiss and Sharc. (SO BUY A LOT OF THEM!!!!) as of right now, they have no other plans to release them. Same deal witht he playsets. if the movie is a hit like Transformrs was, they in late 2009, or 2010, we will see a large resurgence of playsets and figures.

unfortunetly, we wil have to deal with toys based off the movie.

[panzer]

Vamp/Stingers would be welcomed though Not with the newer style Rollbars.
Have the rollbars as the originals.

[Hicks_Royel]

All I really want is a Rattler with Wild Weasel... and maybe an updated [more flexible] version of the S.N.A.K.E. battle armor.

[artiepants]

I'm curious what folks would think of (and since i've never scene them in person, if they'd even work) some of the better modern vehicles redone as 25th anniversary vehicles.

A lot of the modern stuff is a bit too out there for me, but the Humvee is a great example.

looking through YoJoes arcchives, seems like the Patriot Grizzly would be a good neo-M.O.B.A.T.
the Ninja Lighting Cycle could be redeco'd as the Silver Mirage.
The Air Assualt as the C.L.A.W.
lose the OTT quad cannon and the Venom Striker quad could be redon as the Ferret ATV

The Pirahna attack boat doesnt ahve an obvious analog to me, but is a fairly realistic looking vehicle that could be re-used.

(and good grief is most of the modern stuff weird ~ i think it's mostly the abundance of gigantic turrets and huge firing missiles)

[NeilJam]

It makes me weep to think of all the great vehicles I had in perfect condition (especially the X19) that my parents gave away. :( At least I still have most, if not all, of my vintage figs.


I also got rid of tons of vehicles from the 80s, all in great condition and very few missing parts, but I at least got some money for them (far less than they'd all be worth now). However, I also sold all my figures, most in great condition and again very few missing parts and all their file cards. Sold them all in one shot for a few hundred dollars :(


Back on topic, a new Terror Drome would kick ass, but my wife would want to kick mine for buying one.

I'd also like to see for Cobra and other bad guys:

Thunder Machine
Destro's Dominator
Night Raven
Rattler
Stinger
A.S.P.

and for the Joe's:
H.A.V.O.C.
Desert Fox
Rolling Thunder
Mauler M.B.T. (always preferred this over the M.O.B.A.T. since figures fit completely inside the tank)
A.P.C.
Mobile Command Center w Triple T (or another vehicle that fits inside if there is one)
Defiant Space Shuttle Complex :D

[Shin Densetsu]

The Ghost striker X-16 in grey 2 tone airforce colors and gold tinted canopy would be awesome, and grey or white missles rather than orange.

[sharke]

That would work well for more Star Wars vehicles, unfortunately as of right now Star Wars toys sell better than Joes (At least that's what most stores think) If they were to base big Joe vehicle sales on the sales of big Star Wars vehicles they could just look at last year's Imperial Shuttle and how well it sold

Star Wars is the template for 3/34 scale line. If big vehicles flop there then its generally assumed that they will flop in other lines as well. Thus if Hasbro doesn't see the return for creating a new (not reissue) large scale vehicle then they'll be scrapped everywhere. Thats where the majority of Hasbro's fears lie. The enormous cost of creation and design. Comparatively, theres little upfront cost in a simple exclusive repaint.
You also have to consider that the 25th line more closely resembles Star Wars in percentage of adult collectors buying. VVV and Sigma Six did not. Execs at Hasbro need something for a base and to a nonJoe fan Star Wars is gonna be the closest thing.
Plus you have to consider that for the huge success of the Shuttle there was just as much failure in the AT-AT, released at the same time.
*sorry for the late response, just saw post

[Drake]

A Skystriker in modern naval ghost gray with a low-vis scheme would rock. A Mobat or Mauler would be nice too.

[Deefuzz]

Mamba
Night Raven
Rolling Thunder
STUN
USS Flagg
Wolf
Moccasin
Terrordrome
Maggot
Buzz Boar
Serpentors Chariot
Moray Hydrofoil
Defiant
Sea Ray
BUGG
Phantom
IMP
Razorback

just to name a few :)

[Dick Blinken]

Polar Bear?

C.L.A.W. might be cool.

[Snowjob00]

Well since the VAMP was my very first gijoe piece I definitely want that to be one of the vehicles. I hope they can redesign some minor details and modify them to be more modern. I think they could make the driver Clutch a nice edition as well.
The Sky Hawk is also very cool. These are both small and not a big gamble if they dont sell too many although I am certain they would do fine.
I would also love to see the hovercraft but kind of doubtful they would make something that large. Whatever they do I will be happy with because whoever designs the vehicles does a great job.

[Paul]

Star Wars is the template for 3/34 scale line. If big vehicles flop there then its generally assumed that they will flop in other lines as well. Thus if Hasbro doesn't see the return for creating a new (not reissue) large scale vehicle then they'll be scrapped everywhere. Thats where the majority of Hasbro's fears lie. The enormous cost of creation and design. Comparatively, theres little upfront cost in a simple exclusive repaint.
You also have to consider that the 25th line more closely resembles Star Wars in percentage of adult collectors buying. VVV and Sigma Six did not. Execs at Hasbro need something for a base and to a nonJoe fan Star Wars is gonna be the closest thing.
Plus you have to consider that for the huge success of the Shuttle there was just as much failure in the AT-AT, released at the same time.
*sorry for the late response, just saw post

The problem with this is that I believe Star Wars fans (like me) are a bit burnt out by buying the same big vehicles every 5 years. Why would I want another AT AT for 90 DOLLARS, when I have two from the last time they came out?

[Snowjob00]

Star Wars and Batman figures are Go##amn ridiculous. As cool as some are it is unbelievable how many remakes there have been and continue to be produced. The early GIjoe vehicles were so well designed even back in the early 80's that I think just some minor changes would really breathe some new life into them. I am really excited to see what they do with them.

[Shin Densetsu]

The problem with this is that I believe Star Wars fans (like me) are a bit burnt out by buying the same big vehicles every 5 years. Why would I want another AT AT for 90 DOLLARS, when I have two from the last time they came out?
I missed out on that behemoth when it was $15 clearanced at kb toyworks. Man do I regret not picking it up back in 97!
The early GIjoe vehicles were so well designed even back in the early 80's that I think just some minor changes would really breathe some new life into them. I am really excited to see what they do with them.
Agreed. Even the Conquest, with a new interior sculpted cockpit, would be great. The reason I mention it is because there is a lot of internal room in its cockpit.
The Skyhawk could have transparent plastic beneath a frame this time, rather than being just a glassless frame. The Skystriker could have a more detailed cockpit.

[sharke]

The problem with this is that I believe Star Wars fans (like me) are a bit burnt out by buying the same big vehicles every 5 years. Why would I want another AT AT for 90 DOLLARS, when I have two from the last time they came out?

right, which goes back to my original point about the AT-TE and the problem with using the success of the Imp Shuttle as the template

[Daevhar]

Okay this is my definitive list of all the vehicles I think Hasbro should re-release. I'd be totally happy with them without any upgrades or retooling. Maybe some updated paint jobs would be good though. =)

G.I. Joe Vehicles

Land
MOBAT [Motorized Battle Tank]
RAM [Rapid Fire Motorcycle]
VAMP [Multi-Purpose Attack Vehicle]
APC [Amphibious Personnel Carrier]
Skimobile [Polar Battle Bear]
Vamp Mark II
AWE Striker (All Weather Environment)
Snow Cat

Air
Assault Copter Dragonfly [XH-1]
Combat Jet Skystriker [XP-14F]
Sky Hawk [Vertical Take-Off and Landing Aircraft]
Conquest X-30


Sea
Killer WHALE [Hovercraft]
Devilfish

Cobra Vehicles

Land
HISS [High Speed Sentry]
Stinger [Night Attack Jeep]
Ferret ATV
Cobra STUN
Dreadnok Thunder Machine
Cobra Wolf

Air
FANG [Fully Armed Negator Gyrocopter]
Rattler [Ground Attack Jet]
Flight Pod (Trubble Bubble)
Cobra Night Raven
Terror Drome Firebat
Cobra Mamba

Sea
Water Moccasin
Cobra Night Landing


- With these vehicles they could also do the group repaints, Dreadnocks, Tiger Force, Python Patrol


- As a side note, this list is vehicles only. Not any of the stationary or towed items.

[Blueman]

The Defiant
Stinger/Vamp
C.L.A.W.
Firebat
Skyhawk
R.A.M.
Whirlwind

[squeee666]

Any new vehicles are going to require a bit of retooling. This weekend, I bought some vintage vehicles from a friend. I had to basically force the 25th Cobra trooper into the driver's seat of the original HISS. Even Cobra Commander which is a very thin figure compared to the rest, had major issues fitting in the driver's seat. Most of the figures are just too tall. The Cobra trooper barely fits on the Ferret. He can't even sit completely on the seat. I also noticed the Driver's seat of the Thunder machine is way too small for 25th figures. I'm hoping this is taken into consideration by Hasbro rather than just giving us reissues that are not compatible with 25th figures.

[NeilJam]

Any new vehicles are going to require a bit of retooling. This weekend, I bought some vintage vehicles from a friend. I had to basically force the 25th Cobra trooper into the driver's seat of the original HISS. Even Cobra Commander which is a very thin figure compared to the rest, had major issues fitting in the driver's seat. Most of the figures are just too tall. The Cobra trooper barely fits on the Ferret. He can't even sit completely on the seat. I also noticed the Driver's seat of the Thunder machine is way too small for 25th figures. I'm hoping this is taken into consideration by Hasbro rather than just giving us reissues that are not compatible with 25th figures.


I noticed these figures are a bit taller at 4" and was wondering how well they fit in some vehicles. I was thinking of getting a Thunder Machine, guess that idea is out.

I thought that the three vehicles planned so far were going to be straight re-releases of the originals. That doesn't sound so good for the HISS tank.

[squeee666]

This reminds me of the case with a Star wars vehicle a few years back. You see, when Attack of clones was released, Hasbro made a ship for the bounty hunter Zam Wessell. This was a very small speeder, with an even smaller cockpit. I tried so hard to fit this figure in the cockpit with no luck. She ended up looking like a mummy in coffin rather than a pilot. Fans felt the same as I did. They asked Hasbro about this only to have them reply with "Zam fits fine in the cockpit with a little work". Yeah right. There was no way possibly to adjust the figure to sit in the ship, and look as though she is piloting it. I guess hasbro's idea of a figure fitting properly in a vehicle is different than mine.

[Cobracommand]

Hiss
Apc
Vamp
Asp
Rattler
Raider
Hal
Wolf
Condor

[Shin Densetsu]

Oh yea the Phantom X-19 has enough room for the figures as well. The Ghost Striker X-16 should too.

[yorktownjoe]

When considering this thread, it might be good to remember, even if Hasbro doesn't re-tool these vehicles for the 25th, most of us still have some cherished O-ring figures that will rock on in these vehicles.

I have fit a 25th figure in the IMP (mostly a standing vehicle), the Thunderwing (with a little work), and the Stellar Stilletto.

If vehicles came out that could not accomodate 25th, but would work with our "vintage" figures, would we still buy them? I think plenty of us would...

[uncleneat]

Love to see something for Destro and his army

[CelticViking]

VAMP and Stinger-one mold for two vehicles, Hasbro saves money
Skystriker, Rattler, MOBAT, Battle Bear, WHALE, Water Moccasin, A redone HISS, not just the Target one we are getting

[Snowjob00]

They would have to remake some of the vehicles to fit the series they would be released with. Kind of silly to think they would just resell the originals again. I guess we did see a couple of pics already that didnt look much different.

[RolandofGilead]

I picked up a vintage RAM to display with the 25th Joes and it actually looks pretty good. I've got Lady Jay driving and she's a bit crouched, but she fits. It made me want to go back and find an old VAMP to play with as well. I didn't realize these figures weren't even in the same scale as the old Joes.

[havok15]

Cobra:
Terror Drome
Dreadnok Thunder Machine
Serpentor's Air Chariot
Hurricane VTOL
Dominator
Night raven
Moccasin Boat
Hydrofoil


GI joe:
Sky Hawk
HAVOC
Dragonfly
tomahawk
USS FLAGG
Dragonhawk