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Dr.Mind
11-26-2009, 03:04 PM
I started seeing the line as kid stuff, but as more and more figures came out, they gradually caught up my eye. Unfortunately, just when they started to get the militia looks right, the line got canceled.

Actually, amongst my favorite figures are Gung-Ho (Never minded the guy was nothing like the original character) and Grand-Slam, which had for me some of the best looks of the whole line. Sigma 6 spawned a lot of collector's interest in my country around the last waves... I guess it took us a while to discover what a wonderful line it really was.

Being the owner of a small toy store myself, I got a handle on several figure lots, specially during 2008 christmas --most of them unsold figures from major mexican stores that Hasbro recalls, and then sells down to small, direct retailers as myself-- and the over 100 figures I got went happily over to collector hands... But then, these stocks also ran over, and nothing new has happened since...

I always think of vehicles when I see a Joe, so, back in the day, I started a couple of projects for an 8" scaled Fighter and a tank, but they are still --very-- unfinished... I got into this section of the forums to see if there's still interest on the line, or if they are better left off for dead... With the new Mattel "World's Greatest Heroes" 8" scale line nearing its 2010 debut, a renewed interest has geared me... Wouldn't it be cool to have our Joes in this scale with cloth uniforms, and all the accuracy of 12" figures? Wouldn't it be great to have one of those prototype helicopters Hasbro showed off at conventions at the end of the line?

Any thoughts about it? Be so kind as to share...

Syn3sthesia
11-26-2009, 03:13 PM
I prefer the vehicles because I tought the figs were on the expensive side (And now I find myself pushing kids for DCUC and paying that S6 price).

I would welcome the more vehicles.

Baron Samedi
11-26-2009, 07:35 PM
I'd like to see the opposite- the S6 characters in regular Joe scale, along with some of the vehicles- the Sigma Six Vamp was an awesome ride.

snotshadow
11-26-2009, 07:51 PM
in a smaller scale be better i think

artiepants
11-27-2009, 12:46 PM
I don't care for the scale (any action figures above the 4" scale have always felt like 'dolls' to me) and the design aesthetic of the Sigma 6 line was a complete turn-off to me, so no.

but S-6 characters @ the ME scale i'd be 'ok' with.

Steevy Maximus
11-27-2009, 08:52 PM
I still think, to this day, the 8" Joe line has been one of THE best conceived and designed toyline to see retail shelves in the past decade, easy.

Yes, I love my retro product, but Sigma Six felt FRESH. There were WONDERFULLY designed toys. They had a suberb presentation which made each figure (especially the early Commando class) fell special, the accessories were detailed AND fun, not mention so many you could have a TON of scenarios with just one figure. They were stylized enough that the conservative parent people would have hard time arguing the "violent propaganda" and the toys were TOUGH. Unlike today where we see broken figures with just a little movement, Sigma Six were built to play and play rough.

And by being a new incarnation, the design team had leadway to make some truly impressive product. Flint may not have been very retro, but he was well designed and fun.

25th, RoC, Star wars and such are nice little collector lines. But Sigma Six was a REAL TOY LINE.

Sadly, I think what made it so special probably would have doomed it anyway given the price increases we've seen across the industry in the past several years. Even by the end of the line, you could see the Commando class start to suffer from price cuts.

Nemesis*Prime
11-27-2009, 08:56 PM
I'd have the theme back, because I really liked the character designs, tech and vehicles, but not the 8" scale. Sigma 6 in 3 3/4" scale would be my choice.

jim0680
11-27-2009, 09:05 PM
i would love to see them back..there were some unmade adventure team figs and others we saw...the bomb squad guy etc. they were fun and well designed..

Shin-Gouki
11-27-2009, 09:15 PM
S6 is on the same level as ROC for me. DON'T WANT!

samantha
11-27-2009, 09:17 PM
I liked the sigma 6 line but I didn't buy a lot of it.

Autobot Jazz
11-28-2009, 02:45 PM
wanna know what i was ponderin one night?if maybe Hasbro could do like a "MattyCollector" type deal and release Sigma 6 like they do for MOTU CLASSICS,etc.i would love that!!!

DrNightmare
11-28-2009, 02:47 PM
I still think, to this day, the 8" Joe line has been one of THE best conceived and designed toyline to see retail shelves in the past decade, easy.

Yes, I love my retro product, but Sigma Six felt FRESH. There were WONDERFULLY designed toys. They had a suberb presentation which made each figure (especially the early Commando class) fell special, the accessories were detailed AND fun, not mention so many you could have a TON of scenarios with just one figure. They were stylized enough that the conservative parent people would have hard time arguing the "violent propaganda" and the toys were TOUGH. Unlike today where we see broken figures with just a little movement, Sigma Six were built to play and play rough.

And by being a new incarnation, the design team had leadway to make some truly impressive product. Flint may not have been very retro, but he was well designed and fun.

25th, RoC, Star wars and such are nice little collector lines. But Sigma Six was a REAL TOY LINE.

Sadly, I think what made it so special probably would have doomed it anyway given the price increases we've seen across the industry in the past several years. Even by the end of the line, you could see the Commando class start to suffer from price cuts.

Damn, makes me wish I had bought them when they were like $6 at ROSS xP

Steevy Maximus
11-29-2009, 04:00 PM
wanna know what i was ponderin one night?if maybe Hasbro could do like a "MattyCollector" type deal and release Sigma 6 like they do for MOTU CLASSICS,etc.i would love that!!!

The only line Hasbro has ever termed a "failure" was the GI joe 3.75 Direct to Consumer line.

And there are a LOT more collectors of 3.75 than 8"

Headman
11-29-2009, 04:04 PM
Sigma 6 would be even more worthles to me than RoC. Atleast I can use RoC parts as custom fodder.

footloose
11-29-2009, 04:07 PM
the sigma six line was awesome... i had about 30 of them... i regret to say i gave them to my girls son and they were all detroyed...:(
lesson learned... i get him his own toys now.

Vanishing Point
11-29-2009, 08:10 PM
I have 268 sigma figures boxed carded and custom not counting my fodder trunk, i'd welcom anything that would expand myy options or horizons of this line. If it got me a Baroness, Scarlett or Jinx I'd pay sdcc/mastercollector premium. I also have 3 non bike vehicles for them as well, Firebat, Moccasin and Sharc

Monkeywrench
11-29-2009, 08:14 PM
S6 is on the same level as ROC for me. DON'T WANT!

qft

the odinson
11-29-2009, 08:29 PM
please, please let the sigma 6 line be dead for good. a return of that style in any scale would make me angry.

cobralalalala!
11-29-2009, 09:32 PM
I liked the Sigma 6 figures but I wouldn't want to see them come back. What I would like to see is a very limited line of very well sculpted super articulated six inch Joe figures, like the Masters of the universe classics line for around $10 to $15 per figure.

Headman
11-29-2009, 09:37 PM
Anything more than 4 inches is wasted.

Uberlad
11-29-2009, 09:44 PM
I think the line would be too expensive in today's market, but I'll be darned if they weren't some of the coolest toys out there.

They were toys that were meant to be toys, and I would have much rather they continued the 8 inch figures than the 12 inch figures that they put out there (although I'm sure there was a bigger market for 12 inchers).

I think what killed the line in the average fans' eyes were the cartoony appearances. If they were more Sunbow than Manga, I think they could have stood a chance to reach a bigger market.

Regardless, the line itself was awesome, and I hope to see it brought back at some point.

Dr.Mind
12-01-2009, 10:55 AM
Thanks everybody for your opinions. It seems to me the preferences go to the 3.75" hands down, mainly for monetary reasons. I also love my 1:18 figures, must to admit, but the eight-inchers take me back to my earliest childhood days, when Mego ruled the Toy Aisles, and that's why the scale holds a special place in my Hearth.

I'm including two photos of 8" scaled mock-ups that Hasbro never produced. One was a Rhino Chopper, and the other a modernized version of the VAMP. Now tell me it wouldn't be extremely cool to have such giants around your collection's shelves...

I've never quite got into the 12" collection because I feel the scale is SO restrictive, specially in terms of vehicles and playsets, but with Sigma you'd still have all the detailing of a 30 cm. figure --clothing included-- with still enough chances to present decent vehicles such as the ones in these images.

Anyways, for the majority, it seems the line will be better left off for dead...

Dr.Mind
12-01-2009, 11:00 AM
Hey... Why don't you share pictures of your vehicles? I'd LOVE to see them...

I have 268 sigma figures boxed carded and custom not counting my fodder trunk, i'd welcom anything that would expand myy options or horizons of this line. If it got me a Baroness, Scarlett or Jinx I'd pay sdcc/mastercollector premium. I also have 3 non bike vehicles for them as well, Firebat, Moccasin and Sharc

Menicus
12-01-2009, 11:05 AM
I'd love to have Sigma 6 back, but it would probably break the bank... :P (is anyone else imagining how much room a Sigma 6 Flagg would take up? j/k)

Team Jetfire
12-01-2009, 02:43 PM
Yes, Yes and yes.

I would love for the 8 inchers to be back. 25th Anniversery line is dead and the ROC is nothing special to me.

Here is a little thread that I am writing on AFN.ca about Sigma 6.

GI Joe Sigma 6: The best toy line that you NEVER bought (http://www.actionfigurenews.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=3312)

Griff
12-01-2009, 02:54 PM
HELL NO!! those guady blocky toys were atrocious. besides the movie stuff is more or less sigma sixish enough for me.

Vanishing Point
12-03-2009, 02:36 AM
as requested, the only pics I have right now of the Sharc and Moccassin are WIP I'll unbox 'em and take a few new ones

Breakerfan
12-03-2009, 02:49 AM
I never bought the sigma 6 line but I think the figures were hella cool. The accessories alone made them worth the money.

I'm kinda wondering now why I didn't pay more attention to the line.

Menicus
12-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Guady?

Dr.Mind
12-07-2009, 10:33 AM
as requested, the only pics I have right now of the Sharc and Moccassin are WIP I'll unbox 'em and take a few new ones

Man... They Are SWEET!! Excellent use of that No-good Max Steel's jet... It looks like a real fighter in this scale... Thanks for sharing, and kudos on your work!!

Vanishing Point
12-07-2009, 12:58 PM
Man... They Are SWEET!! Excellent use of that No-good Max Steel's jet... It looks like a real fighter in this scale... Thanks for sharing, and kudos on your work!!

at one point I had the sickness in my mind to draft out schematics to make a sigma scale TD to go with that firebat.... kiddie pools and dog igloos and coolers oh my it would take up soooooo much bloody room

Dr.Mind
12-10-2009, 10:04 PM
at one point I had the sickness in my mind to draft out schematics to make a sigma scale TD to go with that firebat.... kiddie pools and dog igloos and coolers oh my it would take up soooooo much bloody room

Gosh!! You bet!! There's a group of elder collectors --can't quite remember their group's name-- that join to put together 1:6th dioramas, and they love to use in-scale WWII planes and whatnot... I believe they get reunited in an enormous backyard, since the photos of their work look SO massive... You'd have to join --or start-- a society that big to get your sigma 6 TD up and running... Again, thanks for sharing.

Flint071
12-11-2009, 03:49 PM
I'd have to pass at any scale. I collected all of them when they first came out, but the quickly lost their appeal to me. They didn't have the customablity of the 12 inch line and didn't have the nostaglic undertones of the 2 3/4 inch line. However, had they stayed with the traditional uniforms and character designs for S6 I might have stayed around.

I was thinking that if you scaled down the S6 figures to 3 3/4 inch they would start to resemble the current ROC figures - and we know from reading some of the posts on Tank just how well they are recieved.

Zefram
12-11-2009, 03:55 PM
Do not want.
The 4" and 12" figures have a huge amount of third-party support for the scale (I've seen moterized 1/6 scale Tigers on History channel, though God knows what they must cost).

Nobody makes squat for the 8" scale that I know of.

Vanishing Point
12-12-2009, 05:40 PM
my actual intent is to at some point recreate the rank and file group shot from the ww3 comic covers

vermillion21
12-12-2009, 06:03 PM
I liked the Sigma 6 line and thought it was getting really good right before it got canceled. A shame really.

green_shirt
12-12-2009, 06:12 PM
I loved them, they reminded me of the old Mego toys we had when I was a kid. Also the 8" figures are a great scale because you can do so much more with them than 3" figures but they are no where as large and clumsy as 12" figures.

I know lotsa folks had issues with the style of the sculpting, but I've been into Japanese toys for years. So when they came out it didn't shock me because they looked just like the stuff I've been seeing from Japan.

I still kinda hold out hope that maybe one day they come back. But I'm not holding my breath.

Python_Puckman
12-12-2009, 06:16 PM
Didn't like them when they came out the first time... just too big. 4" is the scale I like, normally less expensive, you can buy more and store them in more places, and are in the "Action Figure" category rather than bordering on "Doll". :)

green_shirt
12-12-2009, 06:21 PM
Just now reading the rest of the post on this thread thanks for sharing the prototype photo's Dr.M. That is the coolest use of foamcore I've seen. Man makes me wish we had a remote controlled vamp for the sigmas.

green_shirt
12-12-2009, 06:29 PM
I hate to break it to some folks but all action figures are dolls. Also most of us are grown men and women that buy and sometimes play with our toys or dolls. So what!? Why should we have issues with the things we love?

wishfulthinking
12-15-2009, 08:49 AM
Like a few others, I warmed up to the line at its end. Now I'm rather disappointed it didn't continue...

Also, the addition of snap-on armor for some of the figures allowed me to go full-bore into Centurions nostalgia.

I only wished they had tried to do a bit more with vehicles for the line. The ones that were released seemed half-assed for the most part. I would have gladly paid $30-40 for a S6 HISS or a VAMP.

They did miss the boat with the 2.5 inch S6. Had they made them just a bit larger and poseable (like the Exosquad Jumptroopers that were around 3 inches tall but came with a huge amount of accessories), I think more kids would have invested money into the line.

ParatrooperCarbine
12-15-2009, 09:05 AM
Sigma 6 would have been ok if it had been something other than GI Joe. But it was never a good interpretation of GI Joe.

Dr.Mind
12-22-2009, 10:58 AM
Just now reading the rest of the post on this thread thanks for sharing the prototype photo's Dr.M. That is the coolest use of foamcore I've seen. Man makes me wish we had a remote controlled vamp for the sigmas.

I agree... The moment I saw those prototypes I went "yikes!" about them. I also agree on the clumsiness of 12 inchers and the possibilities of the 8" scale... Thanks for taking the time to share your opinions.

Dirtbag
12-22-2009, 11:07 AM
I still think, to this day, the 8" Joe line has been one of THE best conceived and designed toyline to see retail shelves in the past decade, easy.

Yes, I love my retro product, but Sigma Six felt FRESH. There were WONDERFULLY designed toys. They had a suberb presentation which made each figure (especially the early Commando class) fell special, the accessories were detailed AND fun, not mention so many you could have a TON of scenarios with just one figure. They were stylized enough that the conservative parent people would have hard time arguing the "violent propaganda" and the toys were TOUGH. Unlike today where we see broken figures with just a little movement, Sigma Six were built to play and play rough.

And by being a new incarnation, the design team had leadway to make some truly impressive product. Flint may not have been very retro, but he was well designed and fun.

25th, RoC, Star wars and such are nice little collector lines. But Sigma Six was a REAL TOY LINE.

Sadly, I think what made it so special probably would have doomed it anyway given the price increases we've seen across the industry in the past several years. Even by the end of the line, you could see the Commando class start to suffer from price cuts.

If I'm not mistaken the Flint figure was done as a brand new character originally but then they slap the Flint codename in the middle of production. Still Sigma 6 were actually great toys.

General Hawk
12-22-2009, 11:30 AM
I still think, to this day, the 8" Joe line has been one of THE best conceived and designed toyline to see retail shelves in the past decade, easy.

Yes, I love my retro product, but Sigma Six felt FRESH. There were WONDERFULLY designed toys. They had a suberb presentation which made each figure (especially the early Commando class) fell special, the accessories were detailed AND fun, not mention so many you could have a TON of scenarios with just one figure. They were stylized enough that the conservative parent people would have hard time arguing the "violent propaganda" and the toys were TOUGH. Unlike today where we see broken figures with just a little movement, Sigma Six were built to play and play rough.

And by being a new incarnation, the design team had leadway to make some truly impressive product. Flint may not have been very retro, but he was well designed and fun.

25th, RoC, Star wars and such are nice little collector lines. But Sigma Six was a REAL TOY LINE.

Sadly, I think what made it so special probably would have doomed it anyway given the price increases we've seen across the industry in the past several years. Even by the end of the line, you could see the Commando class start to suffer from price cuts.

Absolutely 100% agree with the above.

3 3/4" scale will always be my favorite, but I can appreciate good toys, and regardless of the scale and style differences, when it came right down to it, Sigma 6 was a GREAT toy. Awesome articulation, fantastic accessories, intriguing characters. Fantastic. I'd take 'em back in a heartbeat, though I have a feeling figures would run close to twenty bones a pop these days.

Justin

General Hawk
12-22-2009, 11:31 AM
If I'm not mistaken the Flint figure was done as a brand new character originally but then they slap the Flint codename in the middle of production. Still Sigma 6 were actually great toys.

That is true. He was originally a new character named "Agent Pantha" but was reworked into the more familiar Flint moniker, which I love. He coincided with the days of America's Elite comics, and the Flint in America's Elite really matched the kind of "down and dirty" look and feel that the Sigma 6 version had as well.

Justin

General Hawk
12-22-2009, 11:32 AM
BTW, for folks feeling a little Sigma 6 love, may I direct you towards the GeneralsJoes "Sigma 6 Celebration" I showcased not too long ago? Not trying to traffic grab, but I think a lot of fans would appreciate some of the detail that went into this fantastic toyline...

Sigma 6 Celebration | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/category/gijoe/sigma-6-8-scale/sigma-6-celebration/)

Justin

jcviper
12-23-2009, 01:39 AM
You know Im all for it, just another take on the figures we all love although it was too anime took some time to grow on people. The cartoon series was at least interesting where else did you see Firefly as Joe then betray them to give us one of the coolest looking cobra figures of all time. Then as they were just getting it right with Combat/Adventure line poof its gone just like that

CobraCrimson
12-23-2009, 01:44 AM
Noway, rather have JvC, VvV or Secondary Market figures than the Sigma 6.....and that's not saying much.

Headman
12-23-2009, 01:48 AM
No interest. It would be like finding a hair on your burger instead of spit.

CobraCrimson
12-23-2009, 01:50 AM
No interest. It would be like finding a hair on your burger instead of spit.

Especially if it was a pub......you get the picture.

chief_1
12-23-2009, 01:52 AM
Especially if it was a pub......you get the picture.

Speaking of pictures, your repacked figure looks like he's... Um...

Quartermaine
12-23-2009, 02:05 AM
For me, it was like having the 3.75" Joes in the same scale as MAttel's Big Jim line (I am an old fart). I love the flexibility that the scale affords as a toy line, and the customs I have seen are incredible. Personally, I thought the diversion into Adventure Team sets was very promising. That scale makes GI Joe accessible for younger kids and that, my dear tankers, is what we need to happen: we need GI Joe to catch on with kids early so the grow up wanting more. I would like to see Sigma SIx come back as Joe COn Exclusives and as Collector's club exclusives, if not at our retailers.

JokerFC
12-30-2009, 06:44 AM
I would LOVE to see the Unreleased Action Man/GI Joe from the Adventure set to turn up.also that unreleased Short Fuze was pretty sweet

Vanishing Point
01-01-2010, 01:57 PM
what I would have liked to see would have been the return of MASK through the 2.5 line. the 1/24 scale at least would have tied into the alternator/human alliance transformers stuff out.

in short more of a separation from one line to the next

that is why they pitched it as Sigma 6 and not just GIJoe

If they had gone with all new codenames it would have been passed off as just another eXtreme

keep the obvious like Snakeeyes and the cobra's but the rookie recruit could have been something other than Duke, Mirage was who I chose, with Resolute I saw T'rat evolve from the idiot slacker in sigma to the wisea$$ in Cobra La and really like the result

other lines of similar size like Insectoids, Bravestarr, Centurians and SpiralZone all have their devoted fans and sigma has more released product than all of 'em combined

Killer 1
01-01-2010, 02:04 PM
I'd really like to see the S6 figures. Especially the stuff that we saw at the Con in '06. I never understood why Hasbro released those Action Battler toys for the movie line when they could have released Sigma Six toys at a cheaper cost to them (the molds already exist), and there's a recent familiarity to the line.

Vanishing Point
01-01-2010, 08:37 PM
heh that's right... they released ROC stuff in every scale except for sigma

Death Adder
01-01-2010, 11:49 PM
Sigma grew on me over time and I'm still quite fond of them. I'd love to see the unreleased Scarlet, Zanzibar, and the others they had on display at joecon '07. I did have issue with the fact that some of the accessories seemed incomplete (armor pieces and such) but I dig most of what Sigma produced. I especially loved the Battlefield General Cobra Commander.

milesmayhem
01-03-2010, 05:12 AM
Just like most collectors back in '07, I was hesitant to buy a Sigma 6 fig but after some convincing from friends, I did buy Long Range and Battle Field CC. From that time on, I started to collect and love them :) If they ever come back into the mainstream, I'd love to see the female figs: Baroness, Jinx and especially Scarlett. Overkill and Machete also, he he he!

As the line dwindled, I started asking friends and "cohorts" to help me customize a theme. I'm sharing to of them, which were made for me by my good friend, Digit:

Sigma 6 Firefly & a custom painted Hovercycle

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/digmagat26/s6hv5.jpg

Sigma 6 Duke & another custom painted Hovercycle

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/digmagat26/StealthDuke3.jpg

I still have some stuff being worked on by me and my "cohorts", he he he! After seeing the prototypes of the RHINO Chopper and the VAMP, makes me feel sad...

Thanks for looking guys!

jbowman
01-06-2010, 02:41 PM
I also never gave Sigma 6 a second thought, I only purhased 2 or 3 sigma guys over the life of the line and never even got around to opening them, they are tucked away in my closet still but that all changed as of this afternoon...

I made a great find on craigslist today, 20 sigma 6 guys, all the large 8"figures no duplicates, only 2 each of duke, stormshadow and snake eyes so the remaining 14 are different characters, all for $30. They came to me in a large plastic bin filled with the figures, weapons and a few instruction sheets. From the 11 figures I have pieced together so far using the yojoe.com archive, they all seem to be complete. These are great figures.

Bravo Sierra
01-06-2010, 03:10 PM
No. Not when 25th/Modern was never completed. Why go there? Unless they scale it down to match everything else. I'm not about to add a third scale to my list of obsessions I have with little plastic Army guys...

snakevets
01-06-2010, 08:55 PM
I got into them as soon as they came out and have most of the guys that appeared on the animated show, but didnīt care too much for the action adventure followup, as unlike a lot of people, I just loved the anime/manga/superhero inspired redesings and fresh take of classic joe characters.

Like it has been said, they are great and durable toys, and I also liked the fact that they were a good middle point between the 3.75" and 12" scales in terms of detailing, accesories and poseability. Overall S6 was a great line to me, and although I'd like to se more of them, I think they would be too costly nowadays, but I would surely pay as much as $35-$40 each for a Scarlett and baroness if they were released as con exclusives (so I could complete the original lineup of the tv show).

IronMan76
01-06-2010, 08:58 PM
NO!!

I MUCH prefer 3 3/4 inch!

8 inch cost too much per figure and they can't make vehicles or playsets in that scale.

Tankers are the best joe fans!

CV2.0
01-06-2010, 09:06 PM
I wouldn't collect 8 inchers.

footloose
01-06-2010, 09:14 PM
hell yeah!!!!! bring them back!!!!!

Big IV
01-12-2010, 10:47 PM
I would like to see the Sigma 6 designs in 3 3/4 scale. I like that better than dolling up the Sigma line. They were cool, but just don't fit quite right.

Ash Talon
01-13-2010, 04:42 AM
When S6 was first revealed, I hated it like most Joe fans. Especially, since it meant the death of 3.75". However, once the figures came out, I scooped them up. Many of them are my favorite interpretations of their characters. The v1 Storm Shadow is the best SS ever.

It really was an innovative line. The vehicles killed both lines though. Those stupid unposeable 2.5" figures were an albatross around the neck of the line. Their low sales doomed the future of S6.

While I still collect 3.75-4" Joes, I actually prefer S6. Honestly, they're more fun than any other Joes. There was a real inspiration behind the designs of the figures and their accessories. POC looks to have some of that same type of passion, but we'll see how that shapes up.

I really would have liked to see Hasbro release some S6 stuff to go along with ROC instead of the Action Battlers and 12" figures. S6 seemed to match ROC, with the Joes wearing body armor. Hasbro could have easily repainted some of the S6 figures, like Duke and Snake-Eyes, to tie into ROC. I think kids would have gravitated toward released S6 instead of those terrible Action Battlers.

M_renegade
01-13-2010, 05:11 AM
I like most S6 designs, but i won't buy huge figs like that.

If they're released in Joe scale, then yeah, sure.

flash70
01-13-2010, 09:36 PM
Yes I would buy them - but please no 2" inch figures!!!

CustomCreator
01-23-2010, 01:59 PM
I got into the line late as I am not much of a toy collector anymore. The only reason I really bought them was for customizing, now I have close to 200 loose figures in various bins just collecting dust...


You can see my Sigma customs here
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-sigma-6-toys/35104-my-sigma-customs.html
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs/52210-sigma-6-sub-zero-base.html
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-buy-sell-trade/64705-anyone-interested-dio.html

green firefly
01-23-2010, 09:05 PM
Love the 8 inch line. I am only missing Combat Squad Recondo. (Anyone want to sell or trade?) Only modern toys I collect. Best GI Joe toys ever made.

destro226
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
8inches scale is like the best compromise. i am not a real fan of the 3.75, and the 2.5sigma line was ok for a while...now, avatar and that star trek line scale is nice, but 8in is perfect. not to big, not to small. now if we can some vehicles other than the 2 motorcycles, 2 atv's, and mm. i wish they would have made that vamp from the what could have been vault pics

Ixz72
03-30-2010, 04:50 PM
I loved the S6 8" inch line...however I hated the 2.5" line. I never did see HASBRO's logic in making the vehicles scaled to accommodate the 2.5" figures. Was HASBRO desperately trying to get away from the 3.75" scale? I think the line would've been more successful if the vehicles and figures were scaled to the 3.75" line.

Vanishing Point
03-31-2010, 09:34 AM
I hated the 2.5 scale because of the very static nature of it all, the other detail I disliked is what I don't like about the human companions in the Transformer Human Alliance line, the figure that have articulation where ugly lil suckers, reminicent of the MASK drivers and original 3.75 StarWars figures, compaired to the rest of the toys even in the same line they look like cast off from 20 years ago, what happened to the tech and skill? another corner cut then?

also my goal for my S6 customs is seen in Ixz72's signature

Dropkick
03-31-2010, 10:11 AM
I actually loved the sculpts but thought that the line could have gone farther had they met the buyers half way & instead of them figures being 8" (sometime taller like HD), they could have done the same with possibly a 4.5" or 5. Plus, GI Joe (for me at least) has always been about the vehicles & not so much the individual figures. It was nearly impossible to come up with an affordable vehicle that a 8" figure could have fit into. The smaller vehicles were some of the coolest, most original designs seen in some time but the figures sucked that went with them.

Robowang
03-31-2010, 10:29 AM
Everybody loves my Sigma 6 8-incher.

82joe
03-31-2010, 10:34 AM
Everybody loves my Sigma 6 8-incher.

He'll be here all night ladies and gentlemen....:)

I liked the Adventure Team themed sets like Recondo w/ the gator. If they brought this kind of stuff back I'd buy it.

Lt. Faceless
04-01-2010, 05:05 PM
I loved the S6 line.They are the 1 of the best toy lines to come out in years.S6 were meant to be PLAYED with,not stared at through glass.

Out of all the haters,how many of you have played with a S6? If you haven't,It makes your opinon on the sujbect void.S6 done what no other toy line(that i know of)has down,Mixed toughness and playabiltiy and in the process came up with one of the best TOY lines to see retail in years.

nemesis_hub
04-13-2010, 03:46 AM
I'm so glad to see that other Joe fans appreciate the S6 line (for a while there it felt like my brother and I were the only ones buying the suckers). They were really fantastic toys and I would snatch up any new ones in a heartbeat.

Zefram
04-13-2010, 04:06 AM
Not the scale, but I would love to see some of the character designs make it into the 4" line. Especially Long Range, Jinx, Spirit, Cobra Commander, Scarlet, Baroness, and Firefly. Especially Spirit, for all the people who complain about his classic look being too much of a stereotype.
http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/20186-3/P2196878.jpg
Yeah, yeah, he's still got a friggin' bow and tomahawks, but his outfit is ten times better than anything the character has ever had before.

And, oh yes... :D
http://images.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif

Skull
04-13-2010, 04:39 AM
I would love to see more sigma 6
and they are much easier to customize then 3 3/4 figures
but I also customized warhammer figures so size has never been an issues........ I need to stop typing in the middle of the night

25thresolute
05-26-2010, 07:02 PM
straight from stone cold steve austin HELL YES

Mint Condition
05-26-2010, 11:06 PM
YES. Sigma Six is what really got me into G.I. Joe. I was born in 1988 (I'm 22 now) which means I never really got to see the original cartoon or get into the toyline, but when Sigma Six came along I thought the cartoon was ok, but the toyline was FANTASTIC. They were done in a very interesting style, had great articulation, had tons of accessories, and were generally fun as hell. I couldn't afford them at the time (I had no job at all), but I've recently got into them since TRU.com has their Sigma Strike Duke on sale for less than 5 bucks.

I think if they brought them back, but under the G.I. Joe Commandos line like they did toward the end of Sigma Six, that would be great.

Mint Condition
05-26-2010, 11:10 PM
Anything more than 4 inches is wasted.

That's totally not what she said.

Bazing!

Mint Condition
05-27-2010, 12:13 AM
If they made Sigma Six designs on a 3.75 inch scale, I think it would look something like this:

JoeBattlelines.com • View topic - G.I. Joe: Aftermath - Sigma 6 (pic heavy) (http://joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=14441)

CobrasUsedCars
05-27-2010, 12:30 AM
I'd like to see the opposite- the S6 characters in regular Joe scale, along with some of the vehicles- the Sigma Six Vamp was an awesome ride.

This would be my vote too

davy580
05-27-2010, 12:47 AM
I'd like to see the opposite- the S6 characters in regular Joe scale, along with some of the vehicles.

THIS. The sale was too big. granted, they had alot of great accessories, but the scale limits how far you can go...
but some of the designs were fantastic, i'd love to get em 3 3/4!

vermillion21
05-27-2010, 01:00 AM
Count me among the folks who liked the Sigma 6 line.

Ctrl_Z
05-27-2010, 01:03 AM
I hadbouth a few sigma 6 figures. they were pretty cool. Fun to play with. I think Ima sell some tho. but gonna keep tunnel rat and, of course, snake eyes.

Some_Gamer_Dude
06-01-2010, 07:47 AM
If they made Sigma Six designs on a 3.75 inch scale, I think it would look something like this:

JoeBattlelines.com • View topic - G.I. Joe: Aftermath - Sigma 6 (pic heavy) (http://joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=14441)

Do Want. I want 2x7 packs, 1 joe, 1 cobra. 100% awesome.

JokerFC
06-01-2010, 01:12 PM
yes because I want that Adventure set Action Man REAL bad.and yeah the VAMP updated for 3.75 would rule all.

ETERNIA FOREVER
07-25-2010, 03:13 PM
wanna know what i was ponderin one night?if maybe Hasbro could do like a "MattyCollector" type deal and release Sigma 6 like they do for MOTU CLASSICS,etc.i would love that!!!

Good Idea

Zefram
07-25-2010, 03:18 PM
If they made Sigma Six designs on a 3.75 inch scale, I think it would look something like this:

JoeBattlelines.com • View topic - G.I. Joe: Aftermath - Sigma 6 (pic heavy) (http://joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=14441)

That's some damn good use of the reactive armor. Stalker Flint and Lady Jaye look badass.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Desu/1272180106045.jpg

DaSmokeEater
08-01-2010, 08:25 AM
My son went HUNTING for the Sigma Six season 1 dvd this morning to watch (convention purchase a few years ago), I know it has legs as good as any other Joe show. The figures still get play time too.

I love the 3 3/4" pics from that link-truly an awesome idea (I could see it being a convention set too since it's relatively low cost and simple but still gives a big WOW factor!)



If they made Sigma Six designs on a 3.75 inch scale, I think it would look something like this:

JoeBattlelines.com • View topic - G.I. Joe: Aftermath - Sigma 6 (pic heavy) (http://joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=14441)

plague
08-01-2010, 08:34 AM
i like my joe 3 3/4 but i also liked a majority of the sigma six line as well. bought quite a few of them as the only 3 3/4 were available on-line. they should have continued with the tried and true instead of cancelling them for the 8 inch. less hard feelings. i thought they were pretty neat.

destro226
08-10-2010, 03:42 PM
my girlfriend had her friend and her husband over on the weekend, he saw some of my displayed S6 stuff and was in awe....he loved it. o, btw he collects gi joe 12in stuff

NightGhost
09-01-2010, 07:07 PM
I used to collect joes in the 80s as a kid. I discovered the Sigma 6 line 2 years ago unfortunately when it had been canceled but I think the characters are awesome, plus you can make nice customs out of them. My first one was a Snake Eyes, followed by Storm Shadow then a Joe Firefly, I just scored 2 Cobra Firefly on ebay this week (one is gonna be turned into Beach Head) and I wish this line would start again, cos there s a lot of potential.

CobraResolute
09-03-2010, 01:13 PM
I enjoyed the Sigma 6 (Robot Rebellion) designs and while I would have preferred them to have come out in the 3 3/4" format as originally planned, I do miss the 8" scale. They were very high quality toys, great detail, solid construction and awesome accessories. I really would have liked them to finish up the show characters that weren't done (Scarlett, Baroness, Cobra Trooper, Dreadnoks..etc.) prior to doing the non show figures (Flint, Iron Grenadiers...). I'm not knocking the non-show figures and in reality they were some of the best in the line - but I wanted the show line up completed.

I definitely think that there is still a market for them.

Mercenary696
09-03-2010, 01:45 PM
Sigma 6 is awesome! That was a great toy line. I really like the 2.5" vehicles like Dragonhawk, Firebat and the VAMP. Great stuff!

General Hawk
09-03-2010, 09:51 PM
Sigma 6 was the balls. It's nice to see it getting some credit among the Joe crowd now, because man back then it was pure unadulterated hatred.

Sure, it didn't work with anything we were used to as fans, but as a toyline in its own right, it kicked ass, and a lot of the ideas and concepts that everyone loves with Pursuit of Cobra were born with Sigma 6.

Justin

Echo7Solo
09-03-2010, 10:02 PM
S6 is on the same level as ROC for me. DON'T WANT!

the size, scale and look proportions of Sigma 6 I agree with you on but the design of some of the people from Sigma 6 was much better than what we are seeing with not only Renegades, but Resolute as well.


Example?



http://images.absoluteanime.com/gi_joe_sigma_6/baroness.gif


I'd rather see this in ME style.

Monkeywrench
09-03-2010, 10:05 PM
S6 is on the same level as ROC for me. DON'T WANT!

This^^

CobraResolute
09-03-2010, 10:10 PM
Sigma 6 was the balls. It's nice to see it getting some credit among the Joe crowd now, because man back then it was pure unadulterated hatred.

Sure, it didn't work with anything we were used to as fans, but as a toyline in its own right, it kicked ass, and a lot of the ideas and concepts that everyone loves with Pursuit of Cobra were born with Sigma 6.

Justin


Wholeheartedly agree!

Echo7Solo
09-03-2010, 10:17 PM
yeah sigma 6 had more cool stuff going for it than people give it credit for. I just didn't care for the scale and look of the figures. The cartoon Barones, noks and storm shadow looks better than anything I've seen sense then.

Shin Densetsu
09-04-2010, 01:32 AM
I definitely think that there is still a market for them.

IMHO Hasbro should have put out movie Sigma 6 figures instead of the 12" ROC figures that warmed shelves at retail. I miss Sigma 6 a lot, and it was a hot subject here for a while. DESTRO, the site owner, is a huge fan of it too.

Dropkick
09-04-2010, 02:17 AM
IMHO Hasbro should have put out movie Sigma 6 figures instead of the 12" ROC figures that warmed shelves at retail. I miss Sigma 6 a lot, and it was a hot subject here for a while. DESTRO, the site owner, is a huge fan of it too.

Glad to read someone else saying this. I thought that was the dumbest F'ing move they could make if they said that S6 was such a dud for them.

Personally, I liked S6 & would pick up more if they had made them. 2 things were a drawback though for them. Their size was one.....it didn't bother me but others hated them because of the size. I sometimes wonder if they could have done better had they been maybe 5 inches instead......happy medium maybe.

The other.....no vehicles to go along with the 8 inchers. They had the smaller guys with their rides but I hated the barely articulated little S6ers. Their vehicles were cool as shit but that was about it.

Dansolo
09-04-2010, 03:00 AM
I was tempted to get some but the price point was a little too high to start collecting them. Granted, they each came with a lot of accessories, but like the smaller scale figures, there are only so many Dukes, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadows that a person needs. It would have been better if they had a wider range of characters including the female ones that were on the show.

Dropkick
09-04-2010, 04:51 AM
yea, you make a solid point there. A few more different characters offered to us would have been great. And the ladies would have been a bonus also.

r3v3n63
09-04-2010, 05:41 AM
I liked Sigma 6 and I thought the 8" figs were neat! The joint system was solid and made for some serious play, tons of detail and gear, original take on the characters, it reminded me of what Joe was like before ARAH. But man did they come up with the most messed up character stuff with that; samurai Snake Eyes and storm Shadow? Stuff like that made no sense to me. The animation style had me interested until I heard the dialogue and plot, Ugh. And while I think the 2 1/2" vehicles were great with a lot of modular forethought i think the scale was wrong for that. I think if they did that scale in the 3 3/4 - 4" scale it would have alienated the previous fans a little less, even if you didn't like the style of figure there would still be a demand for the vehicles in that scale.
I had been wondering if the toy crew made all the vehicles in a CAD type program? Stuff like the R.O.C. was in two scales (yes?) and I had hoped that maybe they would have considered scaling them up for the current line.

MrBlitzer
09-04-2010, 09:45 AM
I got into the sigma madness shortly after they were cancelled. As soon as my son took an interest in them i quickly became obsessed. Its good to see it getting its due!
To me it was less about the cartoon and storyline and more on the figures. Incredible toyline, very durable, very customizable.

Anyhow , if anyone is interested in adding to your collection or getting started, check my post in the classifieds.

Sigmas Pre-Ebay (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-buy-sell-trade/86193-sigmas-pre-ebay.html)

cheers!

BrotherXBlues
09-06-2010, 06:29 PM
I loved the Sigma line from the first images I saw. It really renewed my interest in G.I. Joe that the Valor vs Venom stuff had killed off. The playability was insane. I would still be buying them if they were available. I would even pay for limited release via the Collectors Club or top websites like what Hasbro did with the Resolute box sets.
We they went wrong was not treating it more like a 12 in. line and creating accessory packs. 27 different Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow's got ridiculous. But to pay $8-10 for a "Battle Pack" or "Armor Pack" at the time would have been a great option.
It was a fresh take on known characters, and yes the cartoon was bad but it was fun while it lasted. Sigmas really got me into customizing and see what a little bit of the ol' imagination and paint could get me that was completely unique.

ravage28
09-07-2010, 10:06 PM
love the designs but not really sure of the scale. Wish they came in 3 3/4 inch.

CobraCrimson
09-07-2010, 10:09 PM
no!

Razerwire
09-08-2010, 01:14 AM
I miss S6 dearly. :(

It was definitely not for everyone, which I can understand.

However, from a standpoint of just looking it as a toyline and not how it was so un-GI Joe, it was great for me. I loved the new look, bigger scale, articulation, and accessories.

So much so that I began customizing and now have about 100 of them. The Crimson Twins I made hold a special place in my heart. :D

I didn't really care for the cartoon either or the fact that the line lacked vehicles. Just the figures alone kept me happy.

blayze5150
09-08-2010, 01:14 AM
No, No, No, No, and no!!!!!

Darth Awgmon
09-08-2010, 02:16 AM
Sigma 6 is for losers!!!!!Booooooooooooooooo!!!!

ravage28
09-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Yes, Yes and Yes! I wish there were more figures made for the line.