I'm Assuming You Guys Missed *This*.

[CynthiaCM]

The first look at Channing Tatum as Duke. If I overlooked this being discussed, I apologize for my redundancy.

http://www.jfxonline.com/on-location/2008/02/21/first-look-channing-tatum-is-duke/

[Caliburn]

It's weird nothing I've really seen or have heard seems to bothers me all to much.....but.....The hero on a motorcycle, how very cliche. This film is going to be very interesting.

[Gentleman]

Interesting indeed. I guess Duke musta been friends with the Baroness' brother?


BTW: Duke will be bald by the third film

[WildWeasel]

Looks like Mr. Tatum is making sure he looks good for you guys.

[deathvalleymachine]

Interesting indeed. I guess Duke musta been friends with the Baroness' brother?

Or was The Baroness a member of the Joe Team - never revealed...

[Astrokreep]

Hm. Don't know how much I like him as Duke. I'll have to wait and see him in action I guess. He just doesn't look like Duke to me.

[swafus]

What, no pics of him poppin' fresh dance moves yet?!

[Crimson Rage]

Wha...?
The BARONESS is blonde and DUKE is not?? What's going on here???

Joking! Honest!

[barnabas13]

in a few of those pics it looks like someone beat the blonde hair out of him.

[JimmyPSHayes]

The pics are fine, I just cant' wait for the first HOLY SH!T picture. You know, like Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow. Something that really says GI JOE!!

[G.I.Eddie]

does "Duke" have chin pubes?...is he "keep'n it real"?

[xFlintx]

I was kind of hoping that Duke would be blonde... oh well.

[vega-1]

The pics are fine, I just cant' wait for the first HOLY SH!T picture. You know, like Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow. Something that really says GI JOE!!

That's what I'm waiting for to.

[atomicpower]

From what we've heard from casting so far, I think he might be walking with Doc and Snowjob in that 6th picture.

[Loki41872]

From what we've heard from casting so far, I think he might be walking with Doc and Snowjob in that 6th picture.



LOL! Yeah, that would just about figure, huh. Why not? Nobody else resembles the characters anyway.

[Crimson Rage]

Just seeing set pictures from a "GI JOE film" in production is making my head boggle with coolness and be damned with the hair colours.
But... when we see that first DESTRO or SNAKE EYES image leaked, my jaw will drop (I should imagine)!

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

yeah, where is the Snake Eyes pics? Or Storm Shadow? Scarlett? Anyone that LOOKS like their character?

[RolandofGilead]

I'm already tired of seeing everyone in their civvies (ok Hawk was in uniform, but it certainly didn't look like "Hawk"s uniform). I'm really looking forward to seeing any of these characters in costume. Even if it's a green shirt or some standard military gear I'd be happy. I just want to be able to say "so that's how Duke, Rip-cord, Heavy Duty, or Bazooka looks in the movie."

[spazzy]

Sweet!! Ghost Rider 2 I am glad they got rid of Nick Cage!!

[spazzy]

Geez, you know how many pics we will see before a trailer hits?? This soon after it started shooting we already have 3 main charcters....unless they make the shootings secret or on lot away from paparazzi.

[OUTBACK]

horrible casting. some young meathead punk, just sad. i could have cast better.

Nicholas Cage= possibly on of the most overated, most horrible actors in Hollywood in the past 10 years.

[onefastbird95]

I don't mind the way duke looks so much, you really can't mess his "costume" up that bad... its Destro and CC that have me worried. I know someone is going to want to put THERE OWN twist on the characters outfits... Hopefully Larry Hama is there to back slap them.

[spazzy]

horrible casting. some young meathead punk, just sad. i could have cast better.

Nicholas Cage= possibly on of the most overated, most horrible actors in Hollywood in the past 10 years.


Meathead definitely, I only saw trailers of that dance movie he was in, and it was pretty bad.

Hate, hate hate....nick cage!! Especially when he "trys" to do accents.

[OUTBACK]

LOL SPAZY, ME TOO!

it's like he's the same person in every movie. he absolutely sucked severely in ghost rider. the only movie of his i think he did good in was "raising arizona", anything after that was garbage. dude cannot act.

dude is lame, lame lame X 100000000

[VIPER 48]

With Larry Hama helping on this movie, i am going to give it the benefit of the doubt. I think everyone knows how important this movie is and what it means for the careers of the actors in it, as well as the toy line coming with it. I think there will be many surprises and shocking revelations with this film and to pass judgment already would be to early...

[tile_mcgillus]

HA! Couldn't even dye his freaking hair. When did Duke become a badass Top Gun character... why not, I guess.

So the concept is Duke is BFF with "rex", Baroness's baby brother and he gets killed in battle. Which will turn out to Cobra Commander... like the old timey terrible script?

El Mambiye better come in and hit us with some knowledge that is reassuring again.

[gunslingercbr]

I know someone is going to want to put THERE OWN twist on the characters outfits... Hopefully Larry Hama is there to back slap them.
Larry Hama never had anything to do with the character designs or uniforms, so I fail to see why he would have any credibility in that area to either yay or nay any of the designs. he simply gave character to the designs he was given.

[Porkchop Sandwiches]

Will Hasbro make that motorcycle as a vehicle??

[Phorpus]

It's not bad enough they have Channing Tatum as Duke, they have to go all the way with the 'dick' factor and give him a leather jacket, motorcycle, glasses, and pretty much Johnny Stormify him.

I'm trying really hard to just be patient and wait for the movie to come out before judging but I don't see what explanation they could give to make this picture look less cliched and mind-numbing.

[GI Guppy]

It's weird nothing I've really seen or have heard seems to bothers me all to much.....but.....The hero on a motorcycle, how very cliche. This film is going to be very interesting.
I thought this was Top Gun 2

[GI Guppy]

HA! Couldn't even dye his freaking hair. When did Duke become a badass Top Gun character... why not, I guess.

So the concept is Duke is BFF with "rex", Baroness's baby brother and he gets killed in battle. Which will turn out to Cobra Commander... like the old timey terrible script?

El Mambiye better come in and hit us with some knowledge that is reassuring again.


I hated the leaked reviews and feared the already basic overused action plotline was going to get the usual "neighborhood" treatment. For some reason a villian has to grow up with the hero and two villians have to have a close relationship. I would almost expect George W. and Saddam were on the same Tennis team. It's just really bad writing.

[artiepants]

When did Duke become a badass Top Gun character... why not, I guess.
hasn't that basically been him from the beginning?

i think he looks decent, i would have picked someone a little older, but i don't think he looks that off.

[vision_vanson]

Very Interesting. Bc Rex Is Duke's Best Friend In The Movie And Becomes Cc. Since The Baroness' Brother Dies He Most Likely Uses Her Hatred For The U.s. Government To Turn To The Dark Side Along With Him. Something Tells Me A Big Spoiler Is That Cc And/or The Baroness Were Joes Or Somewhat Military Experienced Before They Turned To The Dark Side And Formed Cobra. Hmmmmm? Also Very Interesting Bc Maybe Duke And Rex Were Not Only Best Friends But Both G.i. Joe. So They Can Use That As To The Reason Why Cobra Is Such A Threat. Why? Bc Rex/cc Knew The Inside Info On The Joes Before He Turns To The Darkside And Uses That To His Advantage In Creating Cobra. Hmmmmm? If I'm Right That Would Be A Great Back Story. This Movie Is Gonna Do Right By Us Fans. I Think Hasbro Really Made Sure This Project Will Be A Hit And Can Possibly Be Our Next Generation Star Wars Trilogy Type Of Series Bc Of How Deep The Mythology Of G.i. Joe Runs. Now If G.i. Joe Turns Out To Be A Hit Maybe They Can Possibly Intertwine G.i. Joe And Transformers In An Epic Battle Of Good Vs Evil With G.i. Joe/autobots Vs Cobra/ Decepticons.

[WildWeasel]

Very Interesting. Bc Rex Is Duke's Best Friend In The Movie And Becomes Cc. Since The Baroness' Brother Dies He Most Likely Uses Her Hatred For The U.s. Government To Turn To The Dark Side Along With Him. Something Tells Me A Big Spoiler Is That Cc And/or The Baroness Were Joes Or Somewhat Military Experienced Before They Turned To The Dark Side And Formed Cobra. Hmmmmm? Also Very Interesting Bc Maybe Duke And Rex Were Not Only Best Friends But Both G.i. Joe. So They Can Use That As To The Reason Why Cobra Is Such A Threat. Why? Bc Rex/cc Knew The Inside Info On The Joes Before He Turns To The Darkside And Uses That To His Advantage In Creating Cobra. Hmmmmm? If I'm Right That Would Be A Great Back Story. This Movie Is Gonna Do Right By Us Fans. I Think Hasbro Really Made Sure This Project Will Be A Hit And Can Possibly Be Our Next Generation Star Wars Trilogy Type Of Series Bc Of How Deep The Mythology Of G.i. Joe Runs. Now If G.i. Joe Turns Out To Be A Hit Maybe They Can Possibly Intertwine G.i. Joe And Transformers In An Epic Battle Of Good Vs Evil With G.i. Joe/autobots Vs Cobra/ Decepticons.

Lay off the Caps Lock. Reading your post gave me a headache.

Hasbro already said they want to keep the two franchises seperate. So don't hold your breath on seeing a TF/Joe crossover movie.

[Snowjob00]

Ha ha, I forgot about Raising Arizona, that was a funny show. I dont like Cage beyond that one either. He was much better in his comedies.
Those pictures of Channing as Duke are sickening. Honestly he looks the complete opposite of what the character represents. Duke is more Captain America like and this douchebag is pretty much a GQ pretty boy. Yuck yuck yuck. I am not saying the movie will be bad but certain parts of it I think arent looking too promising..

[Dropshot]

He looks fine enough for me, but again, they could've casted Chris Evans for the role.

[Dropshot]

Very Interesting. Bc Rex Is Duke's Best Friend In The Movie And Becomes Cc. Since The Baroness' Brother Dies He Most Likely Uses Her Hatred For The U.s. Government To Turn To The Dark Side Along With Him. Something Tells Me A Big Spoiler Is That Cc And/or The Baroness Were Joes Or Somewhat Military Experienced Before They Turned To The Dark Side And Formed Cobra. Hmmmmm? Also Very Interesting Bc Maybe Duke And Rex Were Not Only Best Friends But Both G.i. Joe. So They Can Use That As To The Reason Why Cobra Is Such A Threat. Why? Bc Rex/cc Knew The Inside Info On The Joes Before He Turns To The Darkside And Uses That To His Advantage In Creating Cobra. Hmmmmm? If I'm Right That Would Be A Great Back Story. This Movie Is Gonna Do Right By Us Fans. I Think Hasbro Really Made Sure This Project Will Be A Hit And Can Possibly Be Our Next Generation Star Wars Trilogy Type Of Series Bc Of How Deep The Mythology Of G.i. Joe Runs. Now If G.i. Joe Turns Out To Be A Hit Maybe They Can Possibly Intertwine G.i. Joe And Transformers In An Epic Battle Of Good Vs Evil With G.i. Joe/autobots Vs Cobra/ Decepticons.

Dude I hope that turns out to be like you say, specially the crossover in a few years.

[GGPiKE]

I think Duke looks great. If he had the "blond" hair a la the cartoon and comic, it would have probably looked a little . . . umm . . strange. Anyway, his hair could be a dirty blond. Really, though, I don't think it will make that much difference in the long run.

I know that this is all anyone has seen of the movie so far, but most of you are being way to critical of it . . . some even pull out the old "I could have cast this / directed this better" line. Yea I'm sure you could. Right. Are you in the production business? Have you been in it? Doubt it. So unless you have some good years under your belt in production, casting or directing, stop armchair quarterbacking the damn thing. Give it the benefit of the doubt until something solid comes our way. Otherwise you end up sounding like a jackass. If larger pieces start to come in and we find that Baroness is a wheelchair confined Stephen Hawkings lookalike and the movie is based around GI Joe trying to save a rainforest from Cobra cutting it down. you can bitch all you want.

[samjjones]

Larry Hama never had anything to do with the character designs or uniforms, so I fail to see why he would have any credibility in that area to either yay or nay any of the designs. he simply gave character to the designs he was given.

You, sir, are a voice of reason.

[vega-1]

I remember this happening with the Transformers movie. Everyone was pissed off about something they were doing to it. Look how good it turned out to be. At least it didn't flop like all the J-LO X- Boyfriends movies she made, even the most recent one flopped..... HEH HEH

[Echo7Solo]

Man he looks like he just broke out of a Cobra prison.... oh wait.

[Caliburn]

Top Gun 3 is more like it. Top Gun 2 went to that awful movie Annapolis!

[Gentleman]

Man he looks like he just broke out of a Cobra prison.... oh wait.

He wouldn't be Duke otherwise :D

[aroundthefur33]

Wha...?
The BARONESS is blonde and DUKE is not?? What's going on here???

Joking! Honest!thinkin the same thing

[Johnnyakiba]

I did not like the choice until I saw this picture. I suppose they did a good job.

[OUTBACK]

. . . some even pull out the old "I could have cast this / directed this better" line. Yea I'm sure you could. Right. Are you in the production business? Have you been in it? Doubt it. So unless you have some good years under your belt in production, casting or directing, stop armchair quarterbacking the damn thing.

...Otherwise you end up sounding like a jackass.

you sound pathetic. i can critic anything i want, i can armchair anything else too. who are you to even speak to anyone here in that manner?? That Duke is horrible, so i have to be in the business in order to have a valid opinion???

[Crimson Rage]

Surely context, performance, and script have something to do with how good the movie DUKE (and cast/characters in general) will be.
Isn't total dismissal of something as "horrible" based on a handful of non-descript images a little premeture (yet totally typical of the 'internet', so why am I continually surprised?)?

[Snowjob00]

An irritating part of it to me is that it looks more to be heading in the direction as so many other films casting all young model-like actors, which to me screams that the director has no confidence in his own abilities and relies on the good looks to to boost entertainment value. Im not sure, there is some talent being cast so I shouldnt complain too much, but I really dont like Channing at all and Sienna Miller doesn't fit the role of the Baroness IMO.

[gunslingercbr]

That Duke is horrible, so i have to be in the business in order to have a valid opinion???
he is actually perfect for the Duke that is written in the script.
Im not sure, there is some talent being cast so I shouldnt complain too much, but I really dont like Channing at all and Sienna Miller doesn't fit the role of the Baroness IMO.
and she is actually perfect as well -- for the character that is in this movie.

[Snowjob00]

How the hell do you know he or she is perfect for the script? I am talking about the original GIjoe as well as most people about making the movie. Why would they elect to have a black man to play the role of Ripcord? To me that is stupid, there is already enough diversity in gijoe and why alter the integrity of the original character development. They should be trying to target accuracy of origin and making a good story already come to life. And if there is in fact a script out there for people to read and HE fits it,,,then I am worried about the movie yes.

[TheVileOne]

How is he perfect for this movie and Duke? Because to me, I think he looks like a punk I would never consider leading me into battle. He doesn't look like a first sgt. type.

[gunslingercbr]

How the hell do you know he or she is perfect for the script?
because I have read it. have you? if not, how the hell do you know he isn't -- you have no clue about what the character in the script is like.

I am talking about the original GIjoe as well as most people about making the movie. Why would they elect to have a black man to play the role of Ripcord? To me that is stupid, there is already enough diversity in gijoe and why alter the integrity of the original character development. They should be trying to target accuracy of origin and making a good story already come to life. And if there is in fact a script out there for people to read and HE fits it,,,then I am worried about the movie yes.
it has nothing to do with the color of Rip Cord. IMO, Ripcord is the best character in the movie, and Marlon Wayans is the perfect actor to play him. if you are completely married to seeing the G.I. Joe of 1985 brought to live action, fact is you aren't going to like this movie. don't see it, I promise you. stay as far as possible from it. in fact, give up G.I. Joe now to slowly ween yourself off the brand so you minimize your disappointment with the direction the brand and the Joe vs Cobra storyline is going for the next 7-10 years as the movie series is brought to life and complimented by a multi-media assortment of products.

this is G.I. Joe 2009 and it is great. but it isn't the G.I. Joe of 1985.

How is he perfect for this movie and Duke? Because to me, I think he looks like a punk I would never consider leading me into battle. He doesn't look like a first sgt. type.
because he has a real strong demeanor and pressence that I think shown through even in the teen movies he has done. I was pessimistic about him as well until I watched him, and having read the script he works in the role -- which isn't the First Sergeant type. this isn't Duke 1985. it isn't Duke 2003. It isn't even Sigma 6 Duke. this is Duke 2009 and he is presented and characterized in a different, but perfect, manner for this new story.

[WildWeasel]

Why would they elect to have a black man to play the role of Ripcord? To me that is stupid, there is already enough diversity in gijoe and why alter the integrity of the original character development.

Well there was talk that he is actually Stalker, but they didn't want to use the name Stalker for some reason. So until someone actually confirms it one way or the other, I think we should be a little more open to the fact for now.

[gunslingercbr]

Well there was talk that he is actually Stalker, but they didn't want to use the name Stalker for some reason. So until someone actually confirms it one way or the other, I think we should be a little more open to the fact for now.
the character isn't defined in the script as black, so his race isn't important to the character, thus no reason why they changed him to Ripcord from Stalker. I think that is fan rationalization, and doesn't make any sense. heck, the character has more similarities to Ripcord than Stalker, even if that only comes at the end.

don't confuse the casting of the character after the character was written with the character that was created. just because the actor that was cast is black doesn't mean the character was created to be one of the known black Joes. he is the comedic relief of the script (don't confuse comedic relief with sheer silliness -- the character works and is the best character in the script IMO), thus an actor with a comedic touch, whether black or white, works for the role. what, would you guys rather had Jack Black in the role just because he's white?

[WildWeasel]

the character isn't defined in the script as black, so his race isn't important to the character, thus no reason why they changed him to Ripcord from Stalker. I think that is fan rationalization, and doesn't make any sense. heck, the character has more similarities to Ripcord than Stalker, even if that only comes at the end.

don't confuse the casting of the character after the character was written with the character that was created. just because the actor that was cast is black doesn't mean the character was created to be one of the known black Joes. he is the comedic relief of the script (don't confuse comedic relief with sheer silliness -- the character works and is the best character in the script IMO), thus an actor with a comedic touch, whether black or white, works for the role. what, would you guys rather had Jack Black in the role just because he's white?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, gunslingercbr I'm on your side. :D I was just trying to throw some rationalization into the mix instead of all the "he sucks" being spouted about. I agree it really doesn't matter if Ripcord is black or white. Because this is a "reboot", things are going to come out of this differently than they were in the past. I'm all for it so far. I haven't seen or read anything that has turned me off yet. And yes*, Jack Black as Ripcord would definitely be a bad idea. ;)

*Corrected after was quoted. Doh! Grammar police are gonna get me!

[gunslingercbr]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, gunslingercbr I'm on your side. :D I was just trying to throw some rationalization into the mix instead of all the "he sucks" being spouted about. I agree it really doesn't matter if Ripcord is black or white. Because this is a "reboot", things are going to come out of this differently than they were in the past. I'm all for it so far. I haven't seen or read anything that has turned me off yet. And no, Jack Black as Ripcord would definitely be a bad idea. ;)
sorry, bro, wasn't jumping down your throat at all. just trying to bring some sensibility to the discussion. anyone with an open mind is going to love the character and Marlon Wayans as him.

though most people here seem to be of the position that they would have preferred someone like Ryan Reynolds or Dane Cook (because he is a comedic character) just because they are white rather than a black actor that may actually be great in the role just because he is black.

[copywrite]

sorry, bro, wasn't jumping down your throat at all. just trying to bring some sensibility to the discussion. anyone with an open mind is going to love the character and Marlon Wayans as him.

though most people here seem to be of the position that they would have preferred someone like Ryan Reynolds or Dane Cook (because he is a comedic character) just because they are white rather than a black actor that may actually be great in the role just because he is black.
I think it's because people don't want what they grew up with to be changed. GI-Joe was my life when I was growing, but I am open minded about the direction of the movie. Fact is, there's absolutely no way 85 GI-Joe could be made into a movie in this day and age. It would be ridiculous and corny. And everyone on the internet likes to act like they can cast a movie better than the actual film makers. I have yet to see someone come up with a better decision than Tatum. Mark Whalberg? Nathon Fillon? Hell no.They just like to write him off because he's been in stupid movies like Step Up and She's the Man. Haven't seen his character in context yet, but they say he sucks. I wish more people were like you and had an open mind about it.

[teemu8]

How is he perfect for this movie and Duke? Because to me, I think he looks like a punk I would never consider leading me into battle. He doesn't look like a first sgt. type.

totally agreed...he looks nothing like duke and a bad casting for the character

[ceraurus]

Well there was talk that he is actually Stalker, but they didn't want to use the name Stalker for some reason.

Even if they never intended Wayans to be a Stalker-like character, I can see why they might not want to use the codename Stalker in this movie. It might tend to give a creepy, restraining order-type vibe nowadays.

[The Wrath]

I don't see all the problems with this really. In all the early cartoons and comics Duke road motorcycles all the time. They even made a vehicle for it, I forget what it is called. It had a gun attached like a side car.

Anyrate I think the dude fits it pretty well. Just saying.

About Baroness, at the very begining in the history of GI Joe wasn't she there in the special unit that her father was killed in and thought it was Snake Eyes that killed him? Stalker, Storm Shadow and Duke were all apart of that unit. I could be wrong.... It wouldn't be the first time for that.

[Johnnyakiba]

I agree with Wild weasel & the rest.

They needed to revamp the series with this kind of casting, because if they did not then there would be no point in non-Joe fans to go and see it. Putting all of your personal love for G.I. Joe aside, you can say they did pick a decent actor for the main character, as well as the rest.

Also, M. Waynes is funny, just the thing for this kind of movie which is BASED off of the orginal series. (Think of Shipwreck, remember how funny he was?)

[OUTBACK]

it has nothing to do with the color of Rip Cord. IMO, Ripcord is the best character in the movie, and Marlon Wayans is the perfect actor to play him.

what, would you guys rather had Jack Black in the role just because he's white?


dude, after seeing all that, anything you ever type in the future is going to be ignored by me. never seen so much ridiculousness in on thread by one person who thinks they are the POPE of the GI JOE universe.

Channing Tatum is by far not "perfect" for anything Duke 1985 or now.

unreal.

[Snowjob00]

No I haven't read it and am wondering how you could have? My opinion is my opinion. Yes, I would rather have a white Ripcord as well as a Baroness with black hair! So the fuck what! Your statement about the 2009 gijoe plot being so different than the 80's gi joe (and that I should stay away from it since you have read the script) is a validation to all who are complaining about degrading the original characters and story. I dont like Wayans...I think he sucks and they could find a much better person to play the role of Ripcord. I would be complaining just as much if they picked a white man to play the role of stalker...of course that wouldnt happen.

[OUTBACK]

I would be complaining just as much if they picked a white man to play the role of stalker...of course that wouldnt happen.

same here. if you're going to change the story a bit, fine....but keep the basic elements true. it could have been pulled off by a "white" guy.

An irritating part of it to me is that it looks more to be heading in the direction as so many other films casting all young model-like actors, which to me screams that the director has no confidence in his own abilities and relies on the good looks to to boost entertainment value. Im not sure, there is some talent being cast so I shouldnt complain too much, but I really dont like Channing at all and Sienna Miller doesn't fit the role of the Baroness IMO.

i hear'ya man, loud and clear. i agree as well on boths casting decisions as well. (and no, i didn't read the script, and what?)

[gunslingercbr]

dude, after seeing all that, anything you ever type in the future is going to be ignored by me. never seen so much ridiculousness in on thread by one person who thinks they are the POPE of the GI JOE universe.

Channing Tatum is by far not "perfect" for anything Duke 1985 or now.

unreal.
maybe, but it is still far less ridiculous than you spouting off about something you know absolutely nothing about. fact is you know nothing about the movie or the characters, thus your opinion on the matter has no basis in reality and you are coming across as not just whiny but gleefully ignorant about it.

my having read the script doesn't make me the pope, but it certainly makes me far more knowledgeable about the characters than you and provides me a basis for my opinion on the casting. you, on the other hand, don't have either, thus your opinion has no validity. uninformed opinions are ignorant, and there is nothing valid about ignorance.

sorry that you don't like the fact that I know more about this subject than you. that doesn't make me better than you, just more informed. if that is a problem for you that I am more informed, that doesn't reflect anything about me, but your opinion that it does reflects poorly on you.
No I haven't read it and am wondering how you could have? My opinion is my opinion. Yes, I would rather have a white Ripcord as well as a Baroness with black hair! So the fuck what! Your statement about the 2009 gijoe plot being so different than the 80's gi joe (and that I should stay away from it since you have read the script) is a validation to all who are complaining about degrading the original characters and story. I dont like Wayans...I think he sucks and they could find a much better person to play the role of Ripcord. I would be complaining just as much if they picked a white man to play the role of stalker...of course that wouldnt happen.
I don't understand how you find it difficult that someone could have read the script just because you haven't. your not having done something doesn't mean somebody else can't have.

you're entitled to your opinion, I never stated anything otherwise, so I don't know where your defensiveness is coming from. all I have done is address the fact that anyone that is only going to be happy with a re-telling of the RAH tales is going to be severely disappointed with this movie. I didn't say you can't be disappointed, or that the disappointment was invalid. I simply stated you will be disappointed. that is it.

the characters in this movie aren't the characters fr om the 80's. they aren't. these are characters based on the concepts of those characters. therefore they can be any color -- or nationality (and you better be ready for multi-national renditions of your favorites). like i said, if that doesn't appeal to you, this movie isn't for you. don't know how you can be defensive about this.

[Caliburn]

Uhm, this is not a revamp people. To revamp something you would have needed to have made it in the first place. There has never been a live action GI Joe movie. So moving on to this film, you cannot get mad at the decisions of the director and producer. They get paid to make movies, you don't. They are saddled with taking an iconic toy line that was inspired by Barbie dolls for boys. It was eventually made into a cartoon and comic book and has been relaunched several times in different incarnations. The point being that this is just a movie! The actors they hired will act in the manner that the director wants. I am old enough to remember the cries over Michael Keaton as Batman and as they say......the rest is history. When Clooney was hired people were loving it and he killed that franchise. Until it was rebooted. Look at Tobey Maguire in Spiderman. Again everyone cried and well the box office numbers tell us that it worked! Shia in Transformers. The list can go on and on. So give it a rest, Marlon will bring his A-game. This is huge for him, I doubt he is going to phone his performance in. And Channing Tatum will knock it out of the ballpark. This is going to be like Transformers, it wont be nominated for best picture, there will be no excessive blood, gore and or nudity. It will be kid and family friendly.

It is a popcorn flick no different than what Michael Bay is known for. You are going to either love it or hate it. And for most of you that decision will be made before you even enter the theater! (and yes I know Bay is not producing it)

[Caliburn]

Oh and this goes for anyone that thinks just because you read a script, (the Script) that you know what is going to happen!........ Don't think that they don't go through re-writes daily! Not to mention the three versions every film project goes through. The script, the shooting and the editing. You have only seen one version, one that is changing daily!

[tile_mcgillus]

WOW! You guys are getting heated. Its the transformer boards all over over again.

gunslingercbr - Snowjob had a good point. You are not the king of all JOE fans because you read the script. Acting as though these people, who have invested large portions of their life, have no right to have an opinion is quite absurd. What might be a more efficient route for you...describe WHY Channing Tatum is the best Duke you can think of for this version...etc etc.

Everyone else - Movies are never a direct translation and should never try to be. I am not saying you shouldn't question their decisions...but understand that they are trying to make the best movie they can. They want it to be as successful as possible and think these changes will help that.

[Gulfster]

I know I am F*CK#NG EXCITED!!! I can't wait to for the movie.I know there will be things I probably won't like and things I will like.All I know is I have been (just like everyone on here)always wanting to see a live action joe flick and we finally got our wish.I also know I am going to be open about things in the movie just like Transformers and enjoy it to it's fullest.I really hope this does well because I would love some more Joe movies to watch and share with my son.

[gunslingercbr]

gunslingercbr - Snowjob had a good point. You are not the king of all JOE fans because you read the script. Acting as though these people, who have invested large portions of their life, have no right to have an opinion is quite absurd.
where have I said someone can't have an opinion. I haven't, so you should probably not take such an assertive tone about something you clearly don't understand when the fact is I have clearly stated the contrary.

my position never in any way inferred that someone else can't have an opinion, so if you have troubles comprehending what is said and written you should probably avoid interactions that require such abilities.

it is clear, just like Snowjob and Outback, that your problem with my position clearly lies in the fact that I know a little more about the subject matter than you, and you don't like the fact that my opinion is a more informed one and yours isn't. again, that is your problem if you are insecure about someone knowing more than you, but that isn't a problem with the person who does.

grow up. someone disagreeing with you, or attempting to convey to you information that you don't know (of which your ignorance is the basis for your opinion and thus the new information that you don't have can end your ignorance and possibly influence a different opinion) does not mean someone is attempting to talk down to you or negate your right to your opinion. in fact, I never took such a stance or tone, so any interpretation of my position as such is an indicator of your own flawed sensibility and rationality and not anything about me.

I'm so sorry we aren't on even ground when it comes to knowledge of these characters. how unfair. boo hoo. I know, it is killing you to know that another Joe fan who isn't any more important than you may know more about the G.I. Joe movie than you and thus can discuss it without being dependent upon speculation and opinions based on 25 year old concepts that simply aren't applicable. in life not everything is equal, but your defensiveness about it reflects poorly upon you, not the other person that may have more or know more than you.

What might be a more efficient route for you...describe WHY Channing Tatum is the best Duke you can think of for this version...etc etc.

you mean just like I did right here a few pages back.
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showpost.php?p=67862&postcount=52
oh, what is that? perhaps your should read what other people say before spouting off your clearly ignorant interpretations of just what you want to address to attempt to make a dishonest point.

[Snowjob00]

How is it that you are so much more informed on the subject than anyone else? That is silly of you to say because you have read the script nobody else knows enough to comment on casting but you.
What also annoys me about your condescending post is stating how much more you know than us yet you are not directly involved in making the film or casting or directing or writing are you? If so, then I have to say your choice of actors sucks thus far...
I'm not going to continue to argue because it is a waste of my time, you should be careful however who you accuse of having less knowledge than yourself without knowing who you are speaking to...
On a more positive note, I hope at least they are able to integrate some of the classic vehicles in the movie to give that part of it an authentic feel.

[Crimson Rage]

Sooo... it's TRANSFORMERS all over again and this thread loses all interest.
Ta ta!

[gunslingercbr]

How is it that you are so much more informed on the subject than anyone else? That is silly of you to say because you have read the script nobody else knows enough to comment on casting but you.
What also annoys me about your condescending post is stating how much more you know than us yet you are not directly involved in making the film or casting or directing or writing are you?
FACT: ignorance is a lack of knowledge.
FACT: http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg is not the Duke in this movie.
FACT: commenting on the quality of this casting under the position that Channing Tatum is not the right choice to play http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg is irrelevant because Channing Tatum is not playing http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg, he is playing http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg

[gunslingercbr]

FACT: you would know the difference between http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg and http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg if you had read the script.
FACT: having not read the script means you lack knowledge on the difference between http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg and http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg, and thus you aren't really qualified to comment on the quality of the casting because you don't know the character you are talking about.
FACT: ignorance is a lack of knowledge.
FACT: someone knowing more than you does not make them condescending, unless you are insecure about your own lack of knowledge. some people -- reasonable and rational people -- are more than happy to learn something that they didn't know about, instead of being defensive about not knowing in teh first place and ataccking the person who does so they don't have to acknowledge their own ignorance on the matter (ignorance isn't bad because it can be overcome with the simple willingness to learn something you don't know -- if you choose not to, that is your problem).

[gunslingercbr]

all I came to this thread to do is reveal that the character we grew up with and the character in the movie are different characters, so you can't judge Channing Tatum under the criteria that he isn't http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg because he isn't playing http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg.

[gunslingercbr]

unfortunately, some of you either don't want to accept that, don't want to have a discourse about that, or simply are interested in defending your opinions, regardless of whether they are based on a concept of the character that is not relevant to the casting of this movie -- none of which reflect poorly upon me for simply trying to provide knowledge that you don't have so we can have a discourse about Channing Tatum as http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg. which is the character he is playing, whether you like it or not.

I'll agree, Channing Tatum is a terrible choice to play http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg. he is. but he isn't playing http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg, so any opinion based on that factor is irrelevant.

if you really want to discuss the quality of Channing Tatum as Duke, you have to do so discussing him as http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg -- the character he is playing, and to do so you don't have to be involved in the production of the movie. but you do have to know about the character, and one way to do that is to read the script.

[gunslingercbr]

I'm not going to apologize because I have read the script and you haven't, and thus I have more knowledge, even if just slightly more, than you. why you are defensive about the fact that I may is the question you need to answer, because it is clearly prohibiting you from discussing the only thing that is relevant to this casting, and that is Channing Tatum as this character:
http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg

whether you like the change of the character from http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/images/bios/duke_full.jpg to http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg, is another story and not relevant to the discussion of whether Channing Tatum is the right choice for http://www.jfxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ctatum-00146.jpg

[Johnnyakiba]

What's with the pictures, Couldn't you all just say DUKE? I still do not see the difference, CT seems like he can play a good DUKE.

JUST think about OBI-WAN in Episode I,II, & III.

[OUTBACK]

wow, dude that was an immature defense with all the picture stuff and rants.

i going to have to block you from now on, lost all respect on your opinions.

...where's the block option!?

[Caliburn]

Wow this is silly! Channing Tatum is Duke. He is the only person to ever portray him in any and all films! He will be forever known as Duke. Let it go...................... If you have ever watched his movies then you are a fan of his, why else would grown men watch "Step up" or "Shes the Man" if you have not seen his movies then you have no idea how he is as an actor. Either way you both are going to slap down your hard earned money to see a movie with Channing Tatum as Duke!

Script readers who claim to know everything, you don't! Let it go...................... anyway I will gracefully exit this ridiculous conversation.

[Loki41872]

I'd rather have had every single actor that was in Transformers portray the G.I. Joe team. Who's a better choice than Tatum for Duke? I'd take Josh Duhamell over Tatum every day of the week.

And I guess I'll take gunslingercbr's advice, who tells us that if we're expecting to see the G.I. Joe that we've known for 25 years, to just walk away and not see the movie.

I don't want to see the cartoon turned into a live action movie. Yes, that would have been cheesy and stupid. But I would like to see G.I. Joe turned into a live action movie.

Everyone points to the Transformer movie and says "They changed the story in that and it was good, give it a chance!" Well, they didn't really change it. The robots looked different, but at the end of the day the movie was about Giant robots that come to Earth and disguise themselves as Earth vehicles. There are the Autobots, lead By Optimus Prime, fighting the Decepticons, lead by Starscream/Megatron. And they're from Cybertron. Still the same basic story.

From what people who have read the script have said, this IS NOT a movie about "America's highly-trained Special Mission Force". And I don't care what's going on in those pictures with Miller and Tatum. Spin it any way you want, they've changed the whole story. The comics of the last few years have proved that there could be a "realistic" interpretation of 80's G.I. Joe without changing the characters or the entire back-story.

I'm still going to see it, and give it a chance, but man, with every picture and every script leak that comes out, it looks more and more like they're gonna screw this up. And if you think the hardcore G-1ers over on the Transformer side are still mad about what, in the end, comes down to basically the G-1 story, updated, wait for the reaction from the hardcore Joe fans to a movie that changes the entire Joe universe and throws the last 25 years out the window.

[OUTBACK]

Admiral, i'm absolutely sure your already a member of this this board and made that username to attack me with your e-muscles, probably jealous about something, and doing the cheap "sneak-attack". get a job.

nice try though...nobody is dumb here.

Script readers who claim to know everything, you don't! Let it go...................... anyway I will gracefully exit this ridiculous conversation.

LOL...well said.

I'd rather have had every single actor that was in Transformers portray the G.I. Joe team. Who's a better choice than Tatum for Duke? I'd take Josh Duhamell over Tatum every day of the week.

I don't want to see the cartoon turned into a live action movie. Yes, that would have been cheesy and stupid. But I would like to see G.I. Joe turned into a live action movie.

Everyone points to the Transformer movie and says "They changed the story in that and it was good, give it a chance!" Well, they didn't really change it. The robots looked different, but at the end of the day the movie was about Giant robots that come to Earth and disguise themselves as Earth vehicles. There are the Autobots, lead By Optimus Prime, fighting the Decepticons, lead by Starscream/Megatron. And they're from Cybertron. Still the same basic story.

From what people who have read the script have said, this IS NOT a movie about "America's highly-trained Special Mission Force". And I don't care what's going on in those pictures with Miller and Tatum. Spin it any way you want, they've changed the whole story. The comics of the last few years have proved that there could be a "realistic" interpretation of 80's G.I. Joe without changing the characters or the entire back-story.

I'm still going to see it, and give it a chance, but man, with every picture and every script leak that comes out, it looks more and more like they're gonna screw this up. And if you think the hardcore G-1ers over on the Transformer side are still mad about what, in the end, comes down to basically the G-1 story, updated, wait for the reaction from the hardcore Joe fans to a movie that changes the entire Joe universe and throws the last 25 years out the window.

i agree.

[copywrite]

Everyone points to the Transformer movie and says "They changed the story in that and it was good, give it a chance!" Well, they didn't really change it. The robots looked different, but at the end of the day the movie was about Giant robots that come to Earth and disguise themselves as Earth vehicles. There are the Autobots, lead By Optimus Prime, fighting the Decepticons, lead by Starscream/Megatron. And they're from Cybertron. Still the same basic story.



Please. The entire back story of Transformers was changed for the movie. I'm not going to get into it as it's irrelevant to this topic. I can say the same thing about GI-Joe though. At the end of the day it's going to be GI Joe vs Cobra with all of the major characters doing their thing. That's always been the main focus of the franchise. If they feel like they need to change a few back stories to fit their story, so be it. If Baroness ends up looking exactly like her comic counter-part, then what's the big deal? If Tatum ends up doing a great job portraying Duke in the movie, why should it matter if he's a little young? You've only seen them in photo's that aren't even in context. He's just walking around set, of course he's going to look like a tool. I think you guys are too hastily saying this movie is going to suck. Be patient.

[Johnnyakiba]

We need funoodles so we can battle this out.

[Shogi]

OK everybody that's enough! We've gotten way off track with everything here.

Tatum may not be the actor people want to portray as Duke or he may perfect for the role. We won't know a thing till we see the movie.

Everyone needs to calm down and stop the bickering. This is the last warning before this thread gets locked

[OUTBACK]

He's just walking around set, of course he's going to look like a tool.

AHAHHAHHAHAHA.....

[TSgt Talon]

Thank you Shogi. It was fun watching this train wreck, but it got old pretty quick. GSC, okay, you read the script, but you come off as lording it over the rest of us who haven't. I love your artwork, but lighten up, man. As to those of us who are unhappy with Tatum as Duke, why are we upset? Duke is supposed to be the battlefield commander of GI Joe, but in the pic, he comes across, to me, as Scott Summers from X-men, and if the movie goes that direction, it's not going to do well. I understand the point that this is a big time film and will make or break alot of careers. Just one other thought here that no one has mentioned yet. This movie is going to have as much scrutiny as TF or even as the Prequels to the Star Wars trilogy. Is it not a possibility that these are a) teasers to appeal to drooling fanboys? b) misinformation to deflect the eyes critiquing the movie as it gets made? Lighten up, Gang! Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but we don't need to attack those who may not have all the info as we do or those who claim to know more.

[Cobra-Viper]

Duke is supposed to be the battlefield commander of GI Joe, but in the pic, he comes across, to me, as Scott Summers from X-men, and if the movie goes that direction, it's not going to do well..

We all know Cyclops was not treated right in the X-Men movies though, he was made to look like a tool. While Wolvie got all the glory. Duke looks bad ass on the bike, and I didn't particulary like him in the cartoon, although he has some snappy dialogue, he was a bit of a square.

[CynthiaCM]

and I didn't particulary like him in the cartoon, although he has some snappy dialogue, he was a bit of a square.

I like Duke in the comics. I feel he wasn't so much of a square, especially during the Trucial Abysmia storyline, where he came across as a grizzled bad-ass with a need to avenge the deaths of his fellow Joes. It was Hama at his best in my opinion.

[Snowjob00]

I bet Channing Tatum is somewhere on this forum...hmm maybe Gunslingercbr

[G.I.Eddie]

I bet Channing Tatum is somewhere on this forum...hmm maybe Gunslingercbr

oh man thats classic!...

well in that case, Tatum makes sweet custom cards...mmm, not sweet like Hallmark sweet but sweet like awesome...

quick question...think all the Ripcord defenders would be upset if they had say, Jake Gilianwhatever play Roadblock?

[Onslaught Six]

We all know Cyclops was not treated right in the X-Men movies though, he was made to look like a tool.

Cyclops's whole gimmick is that he's a tool.

[gunslingercbr]

I'd rather have had every single actor that was in Transformers portray the G.I. Joe team. Who's a better choice than Tatum for Duke? I'd take Josh Duhamell over Tatum every day of the week.

And I guess I'll take gunslingercbr's advice, who tells us that if we're expecting to see the G.I. Joe that we've known for 25 years, to just walk away and not see the movie.

I don't want to see the cartoon turned into a live action movie. Yes, that would have been cheesy and stupid. But I would like to see G.I. Joe turned into a live action movie.

Everyone points to the Transformer movie and says "They changed the story in that and it was good, give it a chance!" Well, they didn't really change it. The robots looked different, but at the end of the day the movie was about Giant robots that come to Earth and disguise themselves as Earth vehicles. There are the Autobots, lead By Optimus Prime, fighting the Decepticons, lead by Starscream/Megatron. And they're from Cybertron. Still the same basic story.

From what people who have read the script have said, this IS NOT a movie about "America's highly-trained Special Mission Force". And I don't care what's going on in those pictures with Miller and Tatum. Spin it any way you want, they've changed the whole story. The comics of the last few years have proved that there could be a "realistic" interpretation of 80's G.I. Joe without changing the characters or the entire back-story.

but, you see, just like your example of Autobots versus Decepticons is what TF's is about so the movie didn't deviate from the story, all G.I. Joe is about is G.I. Joe, led by General Hawk, versus Cobra, led by Cobra Commander. that is what this trilogy of movies is about (and this movie sets up -- so the elements are present). so, there is no deviation from the core concept just because certain details are modified in the same way the Auobots didn't come to earth in a spaceship 45 million years ago or Bumblebee can't talk.

your argument actually validates the changes for the movie, not disputes them.
Thank you Shogi. It was fun watching this train wreck, but it got old pretty quick. GSC, okay, you read the script, but you come off as lording it over the rest of us who haven't. I love your artwork, but lighten up, man.
that isn't true. all I attempted to do was add perspective to the casting but some people didn't want to accept the fact that maybe I know a little more about the character the actor would be portraying and wasn't relying on a 25 year old version of him to evaluate the actor, and since they couldn't attack what I knew with any credibility they resorted to attacking me.

all I wanted to do was participate in the conversation about the actor, but my defense of his casting immediately led to a personal attack by the first person who responded, and others followed suit, and all I did was defend myself without personal attacks and stayed on the topic and the position at hand -- the casting of Channing Tatum and why it works. those who couldn't dispute my position made it about me instead of discussing the casting because they couldn't dispute my position.

[Snowjob00]

Jake Gilianwhatever? Who what where?

[swafus]

I learned something from this thread.

Gunslinger has read the script....
and in doing so now has infinite knowledge of the new joe-verse and how everyone should feel about it.

Apparently Duke is dead and his smug teenage son is carrying on his legacy with cool guy sunglasses, and a motorcycle.
The Baroness is a sad, sunny blonde, who after her baby bro dies, decides to hit the dye bottle and blow stuff up.
Ripcord is now a jokester sidekick with a full clip of unfunny fart jokes and one liners.

Really......

Neat-O!

[Loki41872]

"I will now drink the Kool aid and love this movie and defend it untill the end of time no matter how bad the rest of the Joe fandom thinks it is, cause the only thing that matters in the whole world is if it makes money not if I like it based on my 25+ years of obviously miss-guided beliefs about what G.I. Joe is."

Everybody chant that with me, come on now!

I will stop having an opinion now, since I've not read the Holy Script, I obviously have no right to have an opinion. I'm sorry for any trouble I may have caused.

[swafus]

"I will now drink the Kool aid and love this movie and defend it untill the end of time no matter how bad the rest of the Joe fandom thinks it is, cause the only thing that matters in the whole world is if it makes money not if I like it based on my 25+ years of obviously miss-guided beliefs about what G.I. Joe is."

Everybody chant that with me, come on now!

I will stop having an opinion now, since I've not read the Holy Script, I obviously have no right to have an opinion. I'm sorry for any trouble I may have caused.

LOL

[Gentleman]

gunslingercbr:

I dunno if anyone's asked this already or if you've stated it somewhere, so I'll ask.

You seem to "defend" (sorry if this isn't the right way of putting it) the casting choice of Duke, among other things. However, I don't think I've seen you say whether you actually like the script or not. You've stated how the script presents a different "continuity" (which makes perfect sense), but you haven't actually said if you like this new continuity, right?

So that's my question: Did you like the script you had access to?