Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2008 Toy Fair Expanded Preview

[DESTRO]

Hasbro's 2008 Collector Media Day Event was full of Win. We arrived at the The Times Center in NYC to be greated by a world class previews of not only Hasbro's 2008 Toy and Action Figure Line-Up but we also got to see many new feature film previews.

Indiana Jones, Iron Man, Hulk were great, but the huge suprise came at the start of the program where Hasbro's Neal Hoffman and Aaron Archer busted out a 5 minute preview put together by Paramount for the Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2009.

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[DESTRO]

Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2008 Toy Fair Expanded Preview:

The start of the preview featured Producers Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Hasbro's Brian Goldner and G.I. Joe Movie Director Stephen Sommers first comments on the filming and direction of the film.

They all had a look of pure excitement and you can tell the bar is really set high for this film from what they had to say. They really wanted to let everybody know we are getting a real deal G.I. Joe film. A lot of what was said was the same feel I got from reading the Live Action G.I. Joe Movie script. This film is set up so people who do not know what G.I Joe is all about get a nice back story explaining what G.I. Joe is along with MARS and Cobra with character background stories.

The film centers around a speachless Snake Eyes (Ray Park) and Storm Shadow (Byung-Hun Lee) and the female roles of The Baroness (Sienna Miller) and Scarlett (Rachel Nichols) play huge roles equal to if not more important then Destro (Chris Eccleston) and Duke (Channing Tatum).


What we got to see from the concept art, 3D renders and other production materials was mind blowing. The Costumes look more along the line of Hasbro's G.I. Joe Valor Vs. Venom (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32) Line more so then the Classic RAH 80's Series.

We got to see a nice eye full of Scarlett with a form fitting classic feel crossbow included (and used often in the film). There were a lot of others shown at the speed of light so it was hard to catch names but I would say Heavy Duty and Duke did flash by and they were very close to the VvV style.

Vehicles!!! Did I mention vehicles yet? There were a ton of concept art and 3D renders shown of the vehicles. There was at one point a full wall of just concepts showing what they will look like for the film. Each vehicle looks like an upgrade of old favorites we all as fans will instantly reconize. There were more than just a few shots of Military GM vehicles show. This is unofficial; but, with the huge connection to the Transformers films I would say they are on-board for the G.I. Joe Movie.

Vehicles for the Movie:

G.I. Joe Vehicles and More

Cougar - Patrol Vehicle
Grizzly - Armored Attack Vehicle
Howler (Attack/Transport Hovercopter)
The PIT (Egypt FTW You get to see the base and them train)
Jet Packs (J.U.M.P.)
G.I. Joe Battle Carrier Submarine (Shark Transport)
Shark (Many)

Cobra Vehicles and More

Typhoon GunShip (Attack Hovercopter)
M.A.R.S Factory - Destro's Base (Polar Ice Cap FTW what a great description of this place M.A.R.S. Logo On Everything)
Trident (Destro's Submarine)
Night Raven
Mole Pod (Buzz Bore)
Scarab (Baroness - Attack Vehicle - The SUV From Hell)
Mantis (Cobra Attack Sub)

There were many more shown at the Hasbro - Paramount preview. I will list the names and try to give you a description or each.

Cobra Night Raven was sick looking. They showed a lot of production material for this jet. It's used as Destro's personal air transportation and plays a key G.I. Joe plot point in the film that I will not give away. This attack jet gets serious screen time and is a complete upgrade from the cassic 80's RAH vehicle. When G.I. Joe fans see this in the film you will know exactly what vehicle it is.

Scarab - The Baroness has a killer SUV that is included in a huge city battle sceen.

Shark There will be many of these in the film and they showed a 3D render of one in the making. It looks to be really close to the original in shape but had no skin attached to the 3D render so it was hard to tell.

Polar Battle Bear - Unofficial Name - Very good 3 person upgrade to the classic RAH vehicle.

Trident or G.I. Joe Battle Carrier Submarine was shown and looked like the future of a realistic nuke sub.

Howler (Attack/Transport Hovercopter) or Typhoon GunShip (Attack Hovercopter) was shown. The only 2 vehicles that come close to a description is the Sigma 6 DragonHawk, but not as big and is more Jet then Copter.

Destros M.A.R.S. Base was amazing. It looks to be massive and have both underwater and above ground sections to the base. There was so many things going on in those images its hard to put down into words.


There was also a 3D downtown city battle shown with Neo-Viper fighting the Joe Team. The Neo-Vipers were in very Classic looking red body armor while the Joe team was sporting the new power suits that make them be able to run and jump fast and higher and boost human power. Hi-Tech was show in the command vehicle giving the Joes intel for the mission.

From what I can tell from all the information gathered we will see more then the confirmed cast and crew of the film. There is a lot of room for NON-speaking G.I. Joe's and Cobra's to show up. I fully expect the film to be riddled with easter eggs and Cameos. Its going to be a huge mix of Sci-Fi meets Military. So do not be let down by the core small teams because there is going to be a lot in the background going on to make up for it.

With that I just want to send out a huge Thank You to Hasbro, Paramount and the G.I. Joe Team for such an unexpected treat at this years event.

Destro!

[Warrant Officer Flint]

Is there any word as to if Flint will be in this movie?

[Cobra-Viper]

The film centers around a speechless Snake Eyes (Ray Park) and Storm Shadow (Byung-Hun Lee) and the Female roles of The Baroness (Sienna Miller) and Scarlett (Rachel Nichols) play huge roles equal to if not more important then Destro (Chris Eccleston) and Duke (Channing Tatum).


Phew, that to me says no lame vow of silence in sight...

I cannot wait for this!!! Only another year and a half to go...wish some of this production art would leak online...:)

[DESTRO]

Is there any word as to if Flint will be in this movie?


I would not expect Flint to be in the film unless he is an easter egg.

[AirborneRigger]

What, no one had a video camera to record the preview!?

Destro, thanks for the news. I'm really excited about the movie and I'm going to be very impatient for a year and a half now!

[General Hawk]

Is there any word as to if Flint will be in this movie?

No Flint as far as I've heard.

[Warrant Officer Flint]

Ok, I would not want him as an easter egg (well, wouldn't mind in the 1st movie) but maybe he will have a bigger roll in the 2nd movie, just an idea...

[eddie003]

not too excited about the movie ...bring on the toys!

[Nemesis_Enforcer]

Sounds good except for the "power suits". Terrible idea. I am still looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

[Shin Densetsu]

Was Storm Shadow's costume shown? Night raven sounds great, thanks for the description DESTRO!

[SnakeEyes]

I've tried to maintain my enthusiasm and take on the "cautiously optimistic"/ "wait and see" mode...BUT, I'm really starting to think it's gonna be great!! I don't want to get my hopes up, but it's soooo hard not too! After all, I've only been waiting 25 friggin years!!! :)

OH...and thanks so much for the great work Destro...you're the MAN!!!!

[Wylde Weezle]

So some of them with Ranger training + powered suits. Cool. Power Rangers.

;D

Sounds pretty awesome so far though, thanks for passing this news along to us.

[flash70]

power suits????

why ...do we need power suits.

everthing else sounds okay...sorry can't jump on the bandwagon just yet.

[Shin Densetsu]

Hey they did say the suits looked like the VVV costumes, and those in turn, looked a lot different than the Sigma 6 power suits. You guys are worrying over nothing.

[Stygian]

As with any beloved property about to be turned into a movie, I remain cautiously optomistic. That being said, I sincerely appreciate the update report from Toy Fair!

[tile_mcgillus]

Gijoe the Power Rangers...

We need to discuss these so called power suits...that sounds really bad. It is one thing to have cool uniforms, but that might be taking it a little far.

[Shin Densetsu]

We need to discuss these so called power suits...that sounds really bad. It is one thing to have cool uniforms, but that might be taking it a little far.
They've mentioned a close similarity to the VVV costumes, which were like power suits but nothing like Sigma 6. The later half of VVV consisted of costumes that were like modernized RAH interpretations. I wouldn't mind that in the movie at all.

[Steel Brigade]

I'm EXCITED!! ^_^ Thanks for the report!!

[flash70]

They've mentioned a close similarity to the VVV costumes, which were like power suits but nothing like Sigma 6. The later half of VVV consisted of costumes that were like modernized RAH interpretations. I wouldn't mind that in the movie at all.

we shall see...we shall see.

[xFlintx]

Ok, I would not want him as an easter egg (well, wouldn't mind in the 1st movie) but maybe he will have a bigger roll in the 2nd movie, just an idea...
Flint is a popular character, it's fine if he's in the background of the 1st movie and hopefully he steps up as a major player in the second movie.

Any how The movie sounds good so far, I can't wait until some pictures get released.

[egoing]

Why is The Pit based out of Egypt? I understand you need a forward deployable base, but that strikes me as a bit odd and a fire starter over in the M.E. I can think of several other locations, American Samoa, Micronesia or Diego Garcia for that matter.

[WildWeasel]

power suits????

why ...do we need power suits.

everthing else sounds okay...sorry can't jump on the bandwagon just yet.

You do realize the military is testing "power suits" now. They are like an exoskeleton. Personally I think the concept is pretty cool.

Hey they did say the suits looked like the VVV costumes, and those in turn, looked a lot different than the Sigma 6 power suits. You guys are worrying over nothing.

Totally agree Shin, either everyone faces it right now and realizes this isn't going to be an ARAH movie, but a modernized rebooted version of ARAH. So accept that and enjoy what we will get or just don't read anymore about the movie.

Why is The Pit based out of Egypt? I understand you need a forward deployable base, but that strikes me as a bit odd and a fire starter over in the M.E. I can think of several other locations, American Samoa, Micronesia or Diego Garcia for that matter.

Does this really matter? And I'm sure that they have a reason for choosing that location. In due time we will find that out.

[Magick]

Well the pit was in the middle of the desert.. so it makes sense for it to be in Egypt. I am fine with it being outside of the states.. They are an international organization whose primarily out of the United States doesn't mean that their base of operations has to be here.

[egoing]

Well the pit was in the middle of the desert.. so it makes sense for it to be in Egypt. I am fine with it being outside of the states.. They are an international organization whose primarily out of the United States doesn't mean that their base of operations has to be here.


If they are an "International" organization then they are clearly not G.I. JOE: A Real American Hero. Like i stated before, wait and see it will become a huge controversy that the joes are operating out of the M.E., and I don't mean by fans of joe. I'm talking about the muslim brotherhood and their ilk.

This should be titled G I FAUX.

[GI Guppy]

I just hope that these other joes working in the background aren't simply treated as greenshirts.

My ideal scenario is if they make sequels, to follow teams of other characters, who are working in different parts of the world and on different fronts. There's so many great characters out there that people want in this film like Flint or Lady Jaye. I also think they can make the threat so big that there are many things going on around the globe to incite chaos. Cobra always did seem to be able to multitask in developing schemes and technology.

[Omegawrath]

power suits????

why ...do we need power suits.

everthing else sounds okay...sorry can't jump on the bandwagon just yet.


Believe it or not, the "Power Suits" are based in reality, not Sigma 6.

[GI Guppy]

If they are an "International" organization then they are clearly not G.I. JOE: A Real American Hero. Like i stated before, wait and see it will become a huge controversy that the joes are operating out of the M.E., and I don't mean by fans of joe. I'm talking about the muslim brotherhood and their ilk.

This should be titled G I FAUX.


I think you're reaching a little bit. Having a base set up by an international organization through diplomacy, in an African nation isn't a controversy. I mean was it a controversy that Transformers started in Qatar? Which is in the heart of the muslim world.

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[swafus]

"Power-ed Ranger Suits" = Blegh! Everything else sounds....... okay? Gonna be a lot of Stephen Sommers leaning on the CGI in this I can already tell. I just hope it isn't a g.i. joe flavored Van Helsing we're getting here?!

[General Hawk]

From what we could tell, as well, these "power suits" were only in one segment of the film, it's not like they're running around wearing them all of the time. They're likely a story development piece and a showcase for the FX, and not a core component of the movie itself.

Justin

[DESTRO]

Hey they did say the suits looked like the VVV costumes, and those in turn, looked a lot different than the Sigma 6 power suits. You guys are worrying over nothing.

The Costumes are like VvV but the power suit is not the same.

[atomicpower]

I couldn't stand I Am Legend because of the variance from the book; I'm worried I'll have the same problem with this film.

[Gerrorism!]

I dunno, I think the powered suits could be cool, I looked it up on the internet and I found these, maybe its somthing similar http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=109_1195663753 ... theres also a part that wreaks of SNAKE armor.

[DESTRO]

Very Nice find, however that is more bulky then what we were shown but you can get the concept of what they were going for by watching that video.

[Nemesis*Prime]

I can dig the concept of power armor. My problem will probably be if I like it I'll be complaining over the fact that COBRA doesn't have any. :)
Although it's cool to hear that two of my favorite vehicles (Night Raven and Buzz Boar) will be featured. Hopefully these'll be translated into next year's toy line.

[Omegawrath]

I dunno, I think the powered suits could be cool, I looked it up on the internet and I found these, maybe its somthing similar http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=109_1195663753 ... theres also a part that wreaks of SNAKE armor.
Bingo.

[Omegawrath]

The guy in the suit's name is Rex!!!

[canprime]

I think you're reaching a little bit. Having a base set up by an international organization through diplomacy, in an African nation isn't a controversy. I mean was it a controversy that Transformers started in Qatar? Which is in the heart of the muslim world.

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I think there is a big difference between the start of Transformers being in Qatar (small plot point) versus the main base for the Joe team being in a foreign muslim nation.

That said, I don't think it will be much of an issue unless for some reason they feel the need to focus on the location in the film.

[WildWeasel]

I dunno, I think the powered suits could be cool, I looked it up on the internet and I found these, maybe its somthing similar http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=109_1195663753 ... theres also a part that wreaks of SNAKE armor.

That's exactly the segment I was thinking of when I mentioned earlier that the military is working on exoskeletons. Thanks for digging that up and sharing.

I don't know what it's going to take for some of you guys. This isn't going to be a "G.I. Joe ARAH 1984 The Movie", this is going to be G.I. Joe reloaded/reinvigorating the franchise. This isn't going to be the "25th Anniversary" of G.I. Joe movies. So accept some change or walk away.

[Warrant Officer Flint]

I personally don't mind about the power suits, it's a G.I. Joe movie and I am happy about it however it goes.

[WildWeasel]

hey wildweasal how about we never walk away and we complain about the aspects that we don't like and that don't line up with continuity. The only thing power suits line up with is that joke of a franchise sigma 6. That being said if they are not wearing these suits the entire time and they are not the focus of what makes the joes great i might be able to buy it. The joes should be depicted as top flight soldiers without the need for power suits. If this is a new advanced weapon they are trying fine but it sounds very similar to the sigma six cartoon. I know only about 6 people watched that show but the whole thing was based around the stupid power suits they were wearing and not about them being great soldiers at all. I hope the again that the focus of the movie is not the cg effects surrounding power suits.

So far the complaining out weighs the praise from what I've read on the multiple threads about the movie. And it all basically boils down to this isn't an ARAH movie. It's getting old.

[Irid70]

hey wildweasal how about we never walk away and we complain about the aspects that we don't like and that don't line up with continuity. The only thing power suits line up with is that joke of a franchise sigma 6. That being said if they are not wearing these suits the entire time and they are not the focus of what makes the joes great i might be able to buy it. The joes should be depicted as top flight soldiers without the need for power suits. If this is a new advanced weapon they are trying fine but it sounds very similar to the sigma six cartoon. I know only about 6 people watched that show but the whole thing was based around the stupid power suits they were wearing and not about them being great soldiers at all. I hope the again that the focus of the movie is not the cg effects surrounding power suits.

It's not SUPPOSED to line up with continuity! It's a new continuity, a new medium. If it DID line up with continuity AT ALL, Duke would be 79 years old. Give the movie a chance; every new bit of info that comes out, no matter how innocuous, brings down a hail of nonsense fanboy "they're destroying my childhood" wailing. And it's getting old.
DED(

[OUTBACK]

ahahhaah , i love that smiley^^^

but the powersuits they are going to use are not that robotic thing you see there. most likely it will be a fitted suit sorta like the Sigma stuff.

[WildWeasel]

Updating does not mean changing, Sigma six was not gi joe but closer to power rangers. If i liked power rangers i would be hyped about power suits,since a abhore power rangers and sigma six, again gi joe is not about super heroes or guys who need "power suits " to be great. I want gi joe updated as well as long as it stays what made me love it in the first place, If the essence is gone than so is the love. What made the transformers movie great was that they kept the essence in tact with optimus prime I don't see it being a huge success with the major change in the look of the transformers and the history of the characters without optimus bringing it back to it's roots

Enough about the powersuits! It was already stated that the suits are only part of the movie. That the Joes are still the "elite soldiers" they have always been. So get over the freakin' powersuits already. You haven't even seen them and you are already calling them Power Rangers and writing them off. Nice to have an open mind about this. (insert "banging head into wall" emoticon here)

[C.I.A.D.]

Um...FYI, for those that keep on referring to Power Suits as "Sigma 6"...ARAH had powersuits LONG before S6 was even an artist rendition....or how quickly we forget Star Brigade, eh?

I think Powersuits, and any other gimmick they want to throw in the movie will make it that much more fun to watch.

Do me a favor, for those that keep hating on every aspect of this movie before seeing it....when you own every movie toy, own the DVD...when your kid (if applicable) is wearing his new GIJ the movie backpack to school, please, PLEASE come back and eat some crow. Please :D

[Shogi]

I would like to second Wildweasel's feelings here.

Destro (One of only 2-3 people here who have actually SEEN anything) has already stated it looked like the suits were only in this one scene and that the rest of the film has the Joes wearing uniforms similar to their VvV counterparts. That doesn't sound like a movie that focusing on "Power Suits" so I'm sure you won't have anything to worry about Shipwreck.

This movie sounds very promising and I'm finding it very hard to not get excited about everything I keep hearing about it :)

[C.I.A.D.]

Again, I counter with this: What's wrong with Power Suits?

If everyone is jonesin' for realism, then power suits would work just fine. As pointed out earlier, our Military is already workin' on it, so why wouldn't G.I.Joe have the "best of the best" when it comes to weaponry?

I honestly feel that the negativity is pointless. We've seen nothing to judge for ourselves. Those that have seen it, what little they did, loved every minute of it.

Hama gave it the thumbs up. Yet "we" are here rantin' about power suits?

BOOOOOO.

[WildWeasel]

Again, I counter with this: What's wrong with Power Suits?

If everyone is jonesin' for realism, then power suits would work just fine. As pointed out earlier, our Military is already workin' on it, so why wouldn't G.I.Joe have the "best of the best" when it comes to weaponry?

I honestly feel that the negativity is pointless. We've seen nothing to judge for ourselves. Those that have seen it, what little they did, loved every minute of it.

Hama gave it the thumbs up. Yet "we" are here rantin' about power suits?

BOOOOOO.

Thank you. Unless Hama is blowing hot air out his @$$. And is being truly honest about liking what he's seen & read so far, then I'm all for this movie. From what I've read about this movie, it sounds great. Maybe those that want to complain about it not being all ARAH should form a support group with the G1 Transformer Purists (we know they still aren't okay from the Bay TF movie) and counsel each other.

[C.I.A.D.]

Well, you know, the TF movie DID **** my childhood. GEEWUN FOR LIFE! FIBRIR!

Seriously, I want everyone to feel comfortable sharing their thoughts about the movie, because it generates discussion..and that's a good thing.

Honestly though, can we do it without so much negativity until we have something to judge for ourselves? It's not like this is "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island". It's a G.I.Joe Live Action Movie with Hama's blessing. It's a live action movie that our own DESTRO saw and wants to now marry. Can we as a collective, just this once, reserve judgement until we have a clue of what we're talking about?

[WildWeasel]

Well, you know, the TF movie DID **** my childhood. GEEWUN FOR LIFE! FIBRIR!

Seriously, I want everyone to feel comfortable sharing their thoughts about the movie, because it generates discussion..and that's a good thing.

Honestly though, can we do it without so much negativity until we have something to judge for ourselves? It's not like this is "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island". It's a G.I.Joe Live Action Movie with Hama's blessing. It's a live action movie that our own DESTRO saw and wants to now marry. Can we as a collective, just this once, reserve judgement until we have a clue of what we're talking about?

LOL, I hear there is a meeting this Thursday. Help is on the way.

[C.I.A.D.]

The Meeting was moved to Friday due to President's Day. Just FYI.

[canprime]

Well, you know, the TF movie DID **** my childhood. GEEWUN FOR LIFE! FIBRIR!

Seriously, I want everyone to feel comfortable sharing their thoughts about the movie, because it generates discussion..and that's a good thing.

Honestly though, can we do it without so much negativity until we have something to judge for ourselves? It's not like this is "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island". It's a G.I.Joe Live Action Movie with Hama's blessing. It's a live action movie that our own DESTRO saw and wants to now marry. Can we as a collective, just this once, reserve judgement until we have a clue of what we're talking about?

I liken the situation right now to that of the TF fans when the movie was announced. There will always be fans who won't accept change, but the final product is what will be judged.

I'm excited, but cautious. I think the idea of "power suits" is just one area people are concerned about. No one seems to have a problem with jet packs, even though jet packs have never gotten "off the ground" (tee hee) in real life for mass use. It will come down to how much time is given to the power suits and what they end up looking like.

I think the last concern for me regarding power suits is for the average movie-goer, not the fan. How far can they push people's suspension of disbelief while maintaining the feel of GIJOE.

[Astrokreep]

So far, even with the power suits, I'm still optimistic about the film. They seem to be trying hard to do right for us. I was pretty critical of the TF movie and I have to say, once I actually saw the movie, I was blown away. If this movie can give me even slightly the same feeling TF gave me, I'll be more than happy.

[Ash Talon]

The power suits are apparently only in one scene. They allow the wearer to run and jump fast. They're in a high-speed chase through the streets of Paris. Sounds like they Joes are chasing (or being chased by) the Baroness in her SUV. Could be a very cool scene.

Our military has been testing performance enchancing mechanisms for decades. I remember seeing these super shoes which are basically springs. The allowed the wearer to run faster via longer strides and jump higher. So these power suits are kinda based on fact. And if they're just for one scene, who cares? Sounds cool to me.

Look at it this way. GI Joe has never been fully realistic. Look at the entire cast of Cobra. Look at the vehicles. The entire concept. It's not realism. Open up your horizons and expectations a little and just hopefully enjoy the final product.

The report on what was shown has got be extremely excited. I never thought the film would be vehicle heavy. Due to cost and believability. However, it sounds very ambitious and raised my expectations quite a bit. Sounds like they're going all out. It could be a sleeper hit. People might not be expecting much, but it might turn out awesome.

The August release date makes me scratch my head, though. It's typically a slow month for films.

BTW, the Pitt's Egypt local could be just for the very obvious visual awe of the Gaza strip. The Pyramids are iconic and fit the whole globe-hopping crazyness of the cartoons. If the Joe base is located near (or in?) them, it could just fit the whole wildness of the project.

I'm starting to look forward to this. It already sounds more fun and ambitious and true to the source material than Transformers.

[Echo7Solo]

WHAT? NO FLINT? Who is going to lead the team on their mission once Duke is captured?

[deanhp]

Well, you know, the TF movie DID **** my childhood. GEEWUN FOR LIFE! FIBRIR!

Seriously, I want everyone to feel comfortable sharing their thoughts about the movie, because it generates discussion..and that's a good thing.

Honestly though, can we do it without so much negativity until we have something to judge for ourselves? It's not like this is "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island". It's a G.I.Joe Live Action Movie with Hama's blessing. It's a live action movie that our own DESTRO saw and wants to now marry. Can we as a collective, just this once, reserve judgement until we have a clue of what we're talking about?

C.I.A.D FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

[Echo7Solo]

Well, you know, the TF movie DID **** my childhood. GEEWUN FOR LIFE! FIBRIR!

Seriously, I want everyone to feel comfortable sharing their thoughts about the movie, because it generates discussion..and that's a good thing.

Honestly though, can we do it without so much negativity until we have something to judge for ourselves? It's not like this is "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island". It's a G.I.Joe Live Action Movie with Hama's blessing. It's a live action movie that our own DESTRO saw and wants to now marry. Can we as a collective, just this once, reserve judgement until we have a clue of what we're talking about?
once again CIAD I have to agree. Lets not judge before we see anything for ourselves. I'm up for a Hama blessed film. But just for fun when the dvd comes out can we get a bonus "Earnest Goes To Cobra Island"? Just for um......... craps and laughs?

[General Hawk]

Um...FYI, for those that keep on referring to Power Suits as "Sigma 6"...ARAH had powersuits LONG before S6 was even an artist rendition....or how quickly we forget Star Brigade, eh?

I think Powersuits, and any other gimmick they want to throw in the movie will make it that much more fun to watch.

Do me a favor, for those that keep hating on every aspect of this movie before seeing it....when you own every movie toy, own the DVD...when your kid (if applicable) is wearing his new GIJ the movie backpack to school, please, PLEASE come back and eat some crow. Please :D

Exactly. Everyone seems to forget just how science-fiction oriented the Joe universe has been since the very beginning. Jetpacks, SNAKE Armored POWER SUITS, hovering "Trubble Bubbles", HISS Tanks, Battle Android Troopers, cloning, mutations, etc... this stuff has been going on in G.I. Joe for twenty-five years! This movie is simply continuing the trend of the Joes using futuristic weapons to battle an enemy force that also uses futuristic weapons.

As far as power suits go, we had SNAKE armor, Mega Marines, Star Brigade, hell, the '87 COBRA Commander was wearing one twenty years ago. They've been a part of G.I. Joe lore for a long while (way before Sigma 6).

Justin

[Ruderic]

What no GOLOBULUS?

[HelaViper]

As far as power suits go, we had SNAKE armor, Mega Marines, Star Brigade, hell, the '87 COBRA Commander was wearing one twenty years ago. They've been a part of G.I. Joe lore for a long while (way before Sigma 6).



Good call Justin ;)

[JimmyPSHayes]

So, what's this about Power Suits? :)
-I'm not too worried about those, and yeah, I have to be honest, I wish the PITT was in the US, but I understand the need for a updating. That said, I'm getting REALLY excited for this movie! Thanks for the update Destro!!!
-I can't help but think that we should be getting a first official photo pretty soon.

[xFlintx]

Again, I counter with this: What's wrong with Power Suits?

If everyone is jonesin' for realism, then power suits would work just fine. As pointed out earlier, our Military is already workin' on it, so why wouldn't G.I.Joe have the "best of the best" when it comes to weaponry?

I honestly feel that the negativity is pointless. We've seen nothing to judge for ourselves. Those that have seen it, what little they did, loved every minute of it.

Hama gave it the thumbs up. Yet "we" are here rantin' about power suits?

BOOOOOO.

It's because people can't just enjoy things and need to bitch. I reserve any judgement until I see it. If it sucks after I watch it then so be it, but I'm excited as hell.

[Dust Viper]

The powersuits don't bother me as much as the movie being centered on Snake Eyes. That's the kind of crap that ruined the comics.

[wildbill73]

as CIAD said, Power Suits, Adaptive camoflague...things that were dreams ten years ago are becoming reality..and our troops deverve all they can get...so of course GI Joe would have "power Suits"..It sounds really cool to me

[wish12oz]

power suites wont make the movie bad. only a red haired girl falling for a black man whose suppose to be white can make it bad. (does that sound racist? i dont mean it to if it does.... but seriously why didnt they just have him play stalker?)

[Shin Densetsu]

Alright this is ridiculous. Some of you hate the idea of powersuits, some of you are open to it. Discussion is great when constructive.

However.......

Some of you are turning this discussion about the movie into a Sigma 6 hate fest. Sure not all joe fans are Sigma 6 fans, but this is not a thread to derail into a Sigma 6 hatefest. Undoubtedly there are going to be some of you dissapointed with a movie.

Last I heard, the title of this thread was "Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2008 Toy Fair Expanded Preview"
not "HEY I HATE SIGMA 6 AND WILL DERAIL A NEW THREAD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT ASIDE ME POSTING IN IT AND MY HATE FOR SIGMA 6 YAY!!"

LAST WARNING. DO NOT DERAIL THIS AGAIN. SOME OF YOU THINK YOU ARE INVINCIBLE AND CANNNOT BE BANNED. REST ASSURED, YOU CAN.

[WildWeasel]

Did Shin scare everyone away? Way to go Shin. ;)

I have to say that everything is sounding pretty cool so far. I get the impression that this movie if it were in the ARAH timeline would be before the first mini-series. Which is kind of cool. I look forward to watching Destro kicking some butt. The vehicles I'm sure are going to be cool as hell. Can't wait for the toy versions. :D

[G.I.Eddie]

It's because people can't just enjoy things and need to bitch...

i disagree...
let me explain why I think there is so much complaining...

first off, let me say that i know i will love this movie...with that being said, let me explain why i, and many others, are bummed about this movie...

who was freaking excited at the announcement of of a live action G.I.JOE movie?...everyone reading this of course...
okay then, why were you excited?...was it because in your head you saw visions of the Joes and all RAH related things you grew up with and loved played out on the big screen or did you imagine a whole new Joe that looks nothing like you remember, only the names stay the same?...

seriously, you know we were all hoping to see a Joe we know, and this, in my opinion, is why soooo any mare upset with all the changes taking place...

sure, by now many have accepted that it WILL be different, and sure, many are probably excited, but nonetheless, after i see this movie, i will think (i hope) "that movie rocked!"...it probably will...it will be a sweet a$$ military style movie with some semblence to RAH, BUT! i know IT WILL leave me feeling like i still haven't been fulfilled with the live action G.I.JOE movie i have been dreaming of for 20-25yrs...

*disclaimer* please, spelling and grammer police, leave me alone...i don't care!...

[WildWeasel]

*disclaimer* please, spelling and grammer police, leave me alone...i don't care!...

LOL

I agree G.I.Eddie, what we envisioned for the live action Joe Movie won't be made, it would have to have been made many of years ago, but would have probably turned out cheap looking. So we will get something new and fresh, but still based on our beloved Joes from the past. As I'm sure it will rock (the Transformers movie did, yeah I said it you G1 purists!), it will be a fun action packed movie about G.I. Joe.

[xFlintx]

Believe me Eddie, I agree with you completely. I've justlearned to accept things because no matter what it's going to be different.

If this was 10 years ago, we might have gotten something a bit more familiar, so rather then get myself wound up over what they changed, I'll wait until I see it for myself then pass judgement.

I waited my whole life for live action versions of TF and Joe, one down, one to come.

[Gentleman]

10 to 15 years ago, a live-action Joe film would have sucked like you've never seen. Trust me.

The time is now. It still may suck, but the right timing this is.

[Devil King]

There's one glaring absence from all the discussion, unless I missed it.

Where the hell is the Cobra Commander news?

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

He's been cofirmed to be played by Joseph Gordon-Lewitt. SPOILERS According to, ahem, scritp leaks, he was Duke's room mate, believed dead but was disfigured, is a doctor, and uses nano-mites to control Destro.

[Shin Densetsu]

I think Cobra Commander is being kept under wraps.

[Gentleman]

SPOILERS According to, ahem, scritp leaks, he was Duke's room mate, believed dead but was disfigured, is a doctor, and uses nano-mites to control Destro.

That Destro bit sucks more than what they are making CC to be.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

POSSIBLE SPOILERS---

Well, I can tell you that, according to the "leaks", that last part happens in the end (thats how he comes to power).

[Devil King]

He's been cofirmed to be played by Joseph Gordon-Lewitt. SPOILERS According to, ahem, scritp leaks, he was Duke's room mate, believed dead but was disfigured, is a doctor, and uses nano-mites to control Destro.

Right, I know that he's been cast and is being played by Levitt. What I have not heard is that he's going to wrest control away from Destro, ala

POSSIBLE SPOILERS---

Well, I can tell you that, according to the "leaks", that last part happens in the end (thats how he comes to power).

which sounds like total crap. That's not how Cobra Commander works, despite him being an any-means-neccessary kind of guy. This approach takes a lot away from both Cobra Commander and Destro

But, I'm not going to pretend I'm feeling that much better about the movie because those in NY were given a taste of it. I haven't heard much that makes me change my mind about it. If anything, I'm disappointed that the entire movie is going to be about Destro and Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow.

I'm fine with a sci-fi angle being used in the movie as G.I. Joe has always relied on that to some extent, but relying too heavily on it dismisses the real world aspect that has made movies like Batman Begins, X-Men 1&2, etc. true crowd pleasers amongst both die hard fans and casual movie goers. And if you can't please both sides of the movie-going divide, then all this sequel talk is moot. Cobra Commander isn't a usurper. He shouldn't have to wrest away control from anyone, least of all Destro, who is an honourable guy but doesn't dismiss the potential of earning a buck. Cobra Commander isn't in it for money, he's in it for power. And as any megolomaniac will atest, money is an inconsequential side effect of actual power.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

Well, GI Joe has done the whole "Nanomites control people", but who knows to what degree the film will be.

[Gentleman]

I agree with Devil King. It takes away from both CC and Destro.



Did anyone save a copy of Latino Review's review (doh) of the script? I didn't make it in time and the whole thing was already taken down. Was that the only review that popped up or were there others taken down as well?

I'd gladly appreciate a PM from anyone having the goods :D

[SnakeEyes]

FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN...it's a natural (however unattractive) human response!! I feel it everyday my 7 & 12 yr. olds walk out the door! The fact is that some VERY respectable members here (not to mention LH himself) have seen and read things I haven't. And, much like I absent mindedly trust the teachers at my children's school, I trust them too! No, things aren't going to be the way they were in the mid 80's...and, quite frankly, I'm glad!!! Those were some CHEEEEESY times! I mean seriously, have you seen what you were WEARING back then!!! Every issue that has been argued here is simply a natural reaction...FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN! Obviously all of us here are emotionally connected to this, kinda like I am with my kids. And when you are that invested in something, you're afraid something might happen to it (or them). But, in the end, you just have to let it go and hope that you've invested enough time and effort to ensure that it will be OK. We, as fans, have invested 25 years of telling Hasbro what we think and how we feel. Now, we as fans need to have faith that our investment has paid off and that Hasbro has listened! And that's my Dr. Phil moment of the day!

[Devil King]

FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN...it's a natural (however unattractive) human response!! I feel it everyday my 7 & 12 yr. olds walk out the door! The fact is that some VERY respectable members here (not to mention LH himself) have seen and read things I haven't. And, much like I absent mindedly trust the teachers at my children's school, I trust them too! No, things aren't going to be the way they were in the mid 80's...and, quite frankly, I'm glad!!! Those were some CHEEEEESY times! I mean seriously, have you seen what you were WEARING back then!!! Every issue that has been argued here is simply a natural reaction...FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN! Obviously all of us here are emotionally connected to this, kinda like I am with my kids. And when you are that invested in something, you're afraid something might happen to it (or them). But, in the end, you just have to let it go and hope that you've invested enough time and effort to ensure that it will be OK. We, as fans, have invested 25 years of telling Hasbro what we think and how we feel. Now, we as fans need to have faith that our investment has paid off and that Hasbro has listened! And that's my Dr. Phil moment of the day!

It's dismissive to assume that everyone here is reacting out of a fear of the unknown, or change. In reality everyone here is reacting to a fear of the known. And who better to trust than the members of our own who have seen this information and conveyed a sense of trust in those who have actually been entrusted?

No one on these boards is reacting out of knee-jerk, they're reacting to what we've been told. (The difference between the 2 is up to the person interpreting the information)

Long story short, don't expect this to be any better handled than was the Transformers travesty. And that implication has very little to do with the departure from what we all expected, and everything to do with disavowing the established mythos in favor of ignoring the fanbase.

it has to be handleled intelligently, first and foremost.

Once you get right down to it, Snake Eyes is NOT the character most fans want to hear about, unless they subscribe to Joe in the same way X-Men fans are supposed to stand slack-jawed over Wolverine.

Unless I'm misinformed, there is no Code Name: "G.I Joe", any more than there is a G.I Joe based on Cobra Commander, Destro, Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow. I want a G.I Joe movie which doesn't involve assuming that every Joe fan is consumed by delusions of Snake Eyes or Wolverine or Storm Shadow or Destro. Pander to those fans with kick-ass scenes, but don't dismiss everyone else, fans and charcters alike, by only addressing those characters.

This is my only complaint about the first 2 X Movies, they focused way too much on Wolverine, which singer managed to hide by spending time on the "supporting" characters.

At this point, I'm just happy I'll get most of my favorite 25th Joes(and Cobras) BEFORE this selective-pandering movie is released, where everyone is wearing space-aged armour and catering to some ninja ideology of G.I Joe.

In and WHEN this movie lives up to my completely open-minded perceptions, I'll admit how wrong I was. But I don't hear that in the reporting, much less the facts. As I said, there are two sides to the divide in a movie like Joe: The fan base and the casual movie-goer. And I only see one side being placated.

[General Hawk]

Long story short, don't expect this to be any better handled than was the Transformers travesty.

We can only hope! 700 million dollars internationally would guarantee cool new Joe toys and films for years to come... ;)

I loved the Transformers film personally, and would be ecstatic if the Joe movie was 75% as entertaining as that one was.

Justin

[WildWeasel]

We can only hope! 700 million dollars internationally would guarantee cool new Joe toys and films for years to come... ;)

I loved the Transformers film personally, and would be ecstatic if the Joe movie was 75% as entertaining as that one was.

Justin

Totally agree with you there Justin (and SnakeEyes). If they can make the Joe movie as entertaining and successful at the Transformers movie then we should all be happy. Means many more years of good things from Hasbro. I love all the "I'm not going to like it" when we haven't even seen a thing yet. Just read some leaked script info and gone off what a few others have said they've seen. Talk about jumping the gun.

As I'm sure that we would all love something like a G.I. Joe version of Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun, it just won't happen. It won't happen because this is a kids brand. Hasbro needs to keep it kid friendly.

[Crimson Rage]

I'm a big fan of the TRANSFORMERS movie too, fully aware that something designed to introduce the franchise to a public who isn't aware of the nuances of the property is never going to be the movie a "hard core" fan wants.

Truth be told, I place far more faith in Micheal Bay's skills as a director that Stephen Sommers. GI JOE will need set pieces that approach the resonance of the ones seen in TRANSFORMERS for it to outdo other action films.

[VIPER 48]

Totally agree with you there Justin (and SnakeEyes). If they can make the Joe movie as entertaining and successful at the Transformers movie then we should all be happy. Means many more years of good things from Hasbro. I love all the "I'm not going to like it" when we haven't even seen a thing yet. Just read some leaked script info and gone off what a few others have said they've seen. Talk about jumping the gun.

As I'm sure that we would all love something like a G.I. Joe version of Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun, it just won't happen. It won't happen because this is a kids brand. Hasbro needs to keep it kid friendly.


I absolutely agree...

[Gentleman]

I dunno folks.

I didn't like Transformers and it wasn't because they took a shit on the mythos. It was just mediocre as a _FILM_. I admit that I thought it was going to become a classic from the start till somewhere in the half... but then it looks as if Bay didn't know how to resolve or whatever, and the flick became a comedy. Joke after joke. And no sense of danger whatsoever.

SO... while I'd like them to be faithful to the mythos to a certain level, I'm much more concerned about Sommers' ability as a director. I trust the screenwriters for this more than the ones for Transformers, but I am very concerned about Sommers. I haven't liked any of his films. They are all too extreme, too cool, and trying too hard to be funny and failing miserably.

In essence... whether the G.I.Joe flick will be faithful to the mythos or not should be the least of our worries. First and foremost, I want the flick to be a good FILM. A good adaptation does not a good film make. And viceversa.

Two films come to mind: Kubrick's The Shining and Milius' Conan the Barbarian. Two great films that are far from being faithful to their sources.



Sommers... don't fakk this up with constant comic relief, or you'll meet the true Arashikage ninjas!!!

[Riggler]

I'm a big fan of the TRANSFORMERS movie too, fully aware that something designed to introduce the franchise to a public who isn't aware of the nuances of the property is never going to be the movie a "hard core" fan wants.

Truth be told, I place far more faith in Micheal Bay's skills as a director that Stephen Sommers. GI JOE will need set pieces that approach the resonance of the ones seen in TRANSFORMERS for it to outdo other action films.

I was almost as big of Transformers in the mid 80s as I was G.I. Joe. I STILL haven't watched the Transformer movie.

This is not the golden age of cinema. In fact, I'd argue its more the golden age of television. That's where all the good writers seem to be working these days. Cinema has turned into the golden age of CGI.

The point I'm trying to make is I consider myself a modern casual Joe fan and am probably out of place amongst pretty much everyone else on this board. I'm the guy you've got to get into the theater on nostalgia. And it didn't work for me on Transformers. And based on the review description, this film may not hit me in the nostalgia gut hard enough to go see it either.

Fanboys are going to see G.I. Joe the Movie anyway. The reason Transformers may have differered was the special effects and that it was a concept that hadn't been done lately as a blockbuster film. (Alien robots invade and fight). The threat with "modernizing" G.I. Joe is you get just another military flick with a brand name on it. And there's been LOTS of military flicks in the last five years that have BOMBED big time.

[G.I.Eddie]

...Cinema has turned into the golden age of CGI...

i too worry that this movie will rely too heavily on CGI and action and have a lame story...don't get me wrong, i know CGI helps create some sweet things on screen that otherwise would be impossible to recreate, but all too often nowadays it seems films, especially sci-fi films, are more than 50% CGI...i think i read somewhere a few years ago that the last Star Wars film was 90% plus CGI!...robot mice roaming the halls, WTH...

guess time will tell...in the meantime, i will forever dream of a RAH live action movie and not the sweet hour to two hour long commercial for futuristic looking Joes and their corrosponding toys...

[gunslingercbr]

We can only hope! 700 million dollars internationally would guarantee cool new Joe toys and films for years to come... ;)

I loved the Transformers film personally, and would be ecstatic if the Joe movie was 75% as entertaining as that one was.

Justin
I'm going to jump on this bandwagon and agree that TF's was great. it was simple, mindless fun about a toyline of giant Transforming robots -- what else was anyone expecting? I think that is what most people seem to forget, these are toys, first and foremost. this isn't high-intellect fare, so any attempt to make a movie about it that departs from what it actually is -- a toy property meant to stimulate children's imagination and play -- betrays G.I. Joe more than a silly, simple movie. that is what G.I. Joe is. just because more mature minds also enjoy it doesn't change the fact at what it is, and what a movie about it should be.

[OUTBACK]

...and would be ecstatic if the Joe movie was 75% as entertaining as that one was.

if the JOE movie is 75% of that piece of trash, it might rank amongst the worst movies ever made.

Transformers sucked, period. i don't care what anyone says. That movie was a pathetic attempt to capture the TF universe or anything resembling it. It was one big car commercial, and something about a funny nerd and how he's trying to bag a hot chick.

all the visual effects and action cannot make up for that mess.

In essence... whether the G.I.Joe flick will be faithful to the mythos or not should be the least of our worries. First and foremost, I want the flick to be a good FILM. A good adaptation does not a good film make. And viceversa.

Sommers... don't fakk this up with constant comic relief, or you'll meet the true Arashikage ninjas!!!


LOL...i hear that.

[Devil King]

I loved the Transformers film personally, and would be ecstatic if the Joe movie was 75% as entertaining as that one was.

Sadly, I think the Joe movie will only be 75% as entertaining.

I was never really a fan of transformers growing up, so I guess I'm one of those casual movie-goers that half the film was targeted towards, and I almost fell asleep watching it. It just wasn't a very good movie, transformers or otherwise.

[Dropshot]

I'm new around here, and well, I wasn't ever interested in GI Joe since i was 6, but with all the rumors coming from the movie it sounds appealing and since it is a sister brand to the TFs (which I have devoted my entire life to).

Since the first day I loved the Joes going international, you don't see many international Gi Joe fans due to the fact that they were too american; so this may give a new take on the franchise and bring new fans to it.

Second, my biggest fear about this movie since I'm not a fan and know little about the characters is Sommers as the director, I fear he can turn an exciting and adrenaline pumping film into an adventure film with cheese all over the place. I don't know exaclty why, but I want to be amazed by the movie and become a new age Joe fan.

[General Hawk]

I'm only a fringe Transformers fan myself, and really went into the Transformers film looking for mindless fun, and I got it in spades.

I am extremely choosy about what films I watch and what films I like, and I generally dislike the majority of what the Hollywood "hype machine" churns out, but Transformers was simple, mindless, action fun, and I loved it, even if it did nothing to expand my intelligence or make me think.

Sometimes that's all a movie needs to do.

Justin

[xFlintx]

I'm only a fringe Transformers fan myself, and really went into the Transformers film looking for mindless fun, and I got it in spades.

I am extremely choosy about what films I watch and what films I like, and I generally dislike the majority of what the Hollywood "hype machine" churns out, but Transformers was simple, mindless, action fun, and I loved it, even if it did nothing to expand my intelligence or make me think.

Sometimes that's all a movie needs to do.

Justin
Quoted for Truth.

[WildWeasel]

I'm only a fringe Transformers fan myself, and really went into the Transformers film looking for mindless fun, and I got it in spades.

I am extremely choosy about what films I watch and what films I like, and I generally dislike the majority of what the Hollywood "hype machine" churns out, but Transformers was simple, mindless, action fun, and I loved it, even if it did nothing to expand my intelligence or make me think.

Sometimes that's all a movie needs to do.

Justin

Quoted for Truth.

I second that! :D

[Gentleman]

I would gladly second that too... but then I think of films like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Sure... simple, mindless, action fun is "sometimes all a movie needs to do" but that shouldn't stop the makers from making an "artistically worthy" piece from other standpoints at the same time. I gave you the perfect example: Raiders. Deep down, it is indeed an adventure film that is meant to entertain, but it is also a master class of film-making in many other aspects. You've got a flawless script with well balanced humor (which Transformers failed miserably at), great pacing, real sense of wonder and danger (again, 2 things where Transformers also failed. When the chick first sees Bumblebee, she's like: "oh, ok"), etc, etc. And of course... some great directing from the Spielbergo. Michael Bay somehow always manages to shit on his own movies towards the end. Sommers is more adventure-oriented, but he's bad.

SO...

no, I don't want a G.I.Joe film that is just pure mindless fun. I'm not saying it should be "Shakespeare", at all. All I'm hoping for is a well-balanced film. I don't even care too much about any possible changes of the mythos. I just want a solid film, period... and Transformers wasn't that. Could have been, but wasn't.

Just my opinion, anyways.

[Ash Talon]

"Simple-minded fun" always seems like an apology to me. Or it just translates to, "it's terrible, but I like it anyway."

Transformers was insulting to me as a human being. I walked out about an hour into it. Was I expecting high drama? No, but I wasn't expecting to be insulted on a human level.

I think Michael Bay truly hates human beings. To punish them, he continues to make terrible movies. And the self-hated that many people possess drives them to continue going to his movies.

That said, I have more faith in Sommers on GI Joe. Why? For one thing, he's not writing this movie. He's written all his previous movies, so this is a depature that hopefully means something. Also, Sommers at least can inject a little humor into his projects. There are parts of The Mummy and Deep Rising that are actually fun and humorous. Lastly, I can actually follow his action sequences. Bay just shoots everything in slow motion and in close-up, so I can't tell what's going on.

Of course, I've always preferred GI Joe to Transformers. I've actually never been that huge a fan of Transformers. Maybe this is why I didn't let my love for the property blind me to the awfulness of the movie.

[Ash Talon]

I would gladly second that too... but then I think of films like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Sure... simple, mindless, action fun is "sometimes all a movie needs to do" but that shouldn't stop the makers from making an "artistically worthy" piece from other standpoints at the same time. I gave you the perfect example: Raiders. Deep down, it is indeed an adventure film that is meant to entertain, but it is also a master class of film-making in many other aspects. You've got a flawless script with well balanced humor (which Transformers failed miserably at), great pacing, real sense of wonder and danger (again, 2 things where Transformers also failed. When the chick first sees Bumblebee, she's like: "oh, ok"), etc, etc. And of course... some great directing from the Spielbergo. Michael Bay somehow always manages to shit on his own movies towards the end. Sommers is more adventure-oriented, but he's bad.

SO...

no, I don't want a G.I.Joe film that is just pure mindless fun. I'm not saying it should be "Shakespeare", at all. All I'm hoping for is a well-balanced film. I don't even care too much about any possible changes of the mythos. I just want a solid film, period... and Transformers wasn't that. Could have been, but wasn't.

Just my opinion, anyways.

Exactly. I also love how people will defend stupid movies by saying, "it's for kids." So are all the Pixar movies, but they're amazingly good.

Raiders is a good example. Same with the original Star Wars movies. They touch on some deeper issues but only lightly. Overall, they're escapist entertainment. They're also very well done and are examples of the artform at its most entertaining.

There's no reason that a movie based on a comic book or toyline can't be as good as some of those films. There just needs to be an effort by talented people.

[Zefram]

Re: Transformers
It sucked because they made the models so rediculously needlessly complex that every minute of time the robots were on-screen it cost millions of dollars, so instead of focusing on a galactic civil war millions of years old between an ancient race of artificial beings with unique and individual characters, we get a couple "hot, edgy, sexy young stars", some army guys that are little more than set-pieces, some crap deus-ex machina plot device everyone is chasing after, and what should have been the main characters relegated to a line or two here and there. Then there's the scene in the backyard. Oh yeah, and the borderline racially offensive autobot is also the ONLY one who dies, rather pointlessly I might add. Even if I look at it as just a sci-fi movie, and not a TFs movie, it's mildly entertaining at best.

As for GI Joe, I'm reserving judgement until I see a trailer. Some leaks have me worried, but Snake-Eyes, Storm-Shadow, Scarlet, and Baroness ALL look increadible, so we have a LOT of potential for a really good OR really bad movie.

[steelbrig]

I'll reserve judgment until i see the movie.
like they always say, "the proof is in the pudding."

[osiris]

The problem with the film is part of the casting. Some characters have been casted extremely well ie. snake eyes, storm shadow baroness. but some have left me wondering what are they thinking. cobra commander as J. gordon levitt of third rock from the sun. yeah ok. and now im hearing brendan frasier is being casted as gung ho. I seriously hope somers isnt planning on having frasier run around with his shirt off

[The Batman]

Oh damn the toys!! It's gonna literally break my heart!! If the Night Raven is a new jet for the 3 3/4 line... I might as well just go ahead and die now because my wife is going to kill me after all the new toy line stuff!!

[streetfield]

Oh damn the toys!! It's gonna literally break my heart!! If the Night Raven is a new jet for the 3 3/4 line... I might as well just go ahead and die now because my wife is going to kill me after all the new toy line stuff!!

I called my girlfriend and apologised after seeing gijoe 5min presentation with movie toys,said to her that I'm blowing at least a couple of hundred quid on the range and lets's not talk about transformers 2,I need a new bank loan!

Staff Edit: Descriptions removed at the request of Hasbro.

[ninja6fett]

The problem with the film is part of the casting. Some characters have been casted extremely well ie. snake eyes, storm shadow baroness. but some have left me wondering what are they thinking. cobra commander as J. gordon levitt of third rock from the sun. yeah ok. and now im hearing brendan frasier is being casted as gung ho. I seriously hope somers isnt planning on having frasier run around with his shirt off

Storm Shadow is being played by a Korean........... Am I the only one bothered by the idea that "Oh this actors asian, that's good enough"?

Are there not any good enough Japanese actors to play ya know, a ninja?

[LYCANMASTERV]

Does any one know if Flint and\or Beach-Head are in the Movie and the Video game?

[Jmacq1]

Does any one know if Flint and\or Beach-Head are in the Movie and the Video game?

It does not appear that either of them are in the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them shows up in the video game, though I don't think it's been confirmed.

I figure they're holding Flint (and Lady Jaye) back for a potential sequel.

[GrapeSoda]

It does not appear that either of them are in the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them shows up in the video game, though I don't think it's been confirmed.

I figure they're holding Flint (and Lady Jaye) back for a potential sequel.

yup, i think they're holding on to a lot of characters in hopes for the next film. more zartan screen time and some 'noks. flint, jaye, beachhead, bazooka, and gung ho seem likely canidates for Joe2.