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dawingster
06-01-2009, 02:13 AM
I found a sketch of Scarlett done by one of my favorite comic book artists Adam Hughes.

Miss Scarlett by *AdamHughes on deviantART (http://adamhughes.deviantart.com/art/Miss-Scarlett-123289608)

generic trooper
06-01-2009, 02:19 AM
Looks great

AlternateUniverse Steeler
06-01-2009, 04:37 AM
I love Adam Hughes.

sharke
06-01-2009, 07:14 AM
Adam Hughes is the man. nice find!

DaViper
06-01-2009, 11:59 AM
great looking piece!! AH! is the best whent it comes to female portraits...

bigdaddyblue73
06-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Isn't he just about the best artist at drawing female characters.

Troynos
06-01-2009, 12:05 PM
That AH Baroness cover that came out in the IDW books was originally done for the DDP run, but was thought to be too sexy at the time.

How things change,lol..

Troynos
06-01-2009, 12:05 PM
Isn't he just about the best artist at drawing female characters.

One of the best. Terry Dodson, Greg Land could give him a run.

Wry1
06-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Yeah, I love this sketch way more than the colored version.

theohiostateguy
06-01-2009, 12:13 PM
One of the best. Terry Dodson, Greg Land could give him a run.

Greg Land. lol, I like his art, but I've heard some stories about him from other artist friends. You'd have to find a really good photo.

Frank Cho hands down is the best at drawing female art out there, with Adam Hughes being right at his heels.

I don't own a Hughes sketch yet, but I do own a panel featuring Brandy from the Liberty Meadows comic.

Michael Turner was also one of the best at drawing women. I'll miss that guy.

Some of my other favorite artists that draw women well....

Amanda Conner
Ryan Sook
Jeff and Phil Moy
Ed Benes (top notch stuff, probably my #3 fav)
John Romita
Greg Horn
Dave Stevens

Troynos
06-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Land's stuff is going more towards the photo, which sucks cause he used to be really great (look at his Sojourn stuff and not his Uncanny X-Men).

Turner was great at it. Mike Deodato Jr is good.

Jim Lee.

JimmyPSHayes
06-01-2009, 12:22 PM
That's a great piece!!!

theohiostateguy
06-01-2009, 12:30 PM
Land's stuff is going more towards the photo, which sucks cause he used to be really great (look at his Sojourn stuff and not his Uncanny X-Men).

Turner was great at it. Mike Deodato Jr is good.

Jim Lee.

Land has always used not just photo reference, but plain photo swipes. When he comes to a show, and if you want a sketch from him, you have to pick from a group of "pre-drawn" women that he will "finish" for you at the show.

Sure, you could say that he takes such time to create the picture and that he could only do a couple of sketches at a show, but really? I've never seen him draw something at a con that he didn't already have three quarters complete.

Now, I'm not saying I don't like his stuff, because I really, really do. I'm just saying that the work isn't impressive if you directly trace it from a photo copy.

Jim Lee is good also, but not as good as he used to be. He's got too much on his plate.

I just hope that no one throws McFarlane up as a great artist, because that guy is terrible. I like Liefeld more than I like McFarlane.

Troynos
06-01-2009, 12:38 PM
I just hope that no one throws McFarlane up as a great artist, because that guy is terrible. I like Liefeld more than I like McFarlane.

Liefeld.. ugh..


Amanda Connor's always been too cartoonish for me.

Stuat Immomen is good at the female form. Phil Jimenez.

George Perez.

fogger1138
06-01-2009, 12:56 PM
Greg Land. lol, I like his art, but I've heard some stories about him from other artist friends. You'd have to find a really good photo.

Yeah, having heard stories from someone who's watched Land compose a page, this is dead-on.

I don't own a Hughes sketch yet, but I do own a panel featuring Brandy from the Liberty Meadows comic.

I have three AH sketches - they're some of the best stuff in my collection.

Michael Turner was also one of the best at drawing women. I'll miss that guy.

I'll miss him too, but often times his women were really weirdly proportioned.

Some of my other favorite artists that draw women well....

Amanda Conner
Ryan Sook
Jeff and Phil Moy
Ed Benes (top notch stuff, probably my #3 fav)
John Romita
Greg Horn
Dave Stevens

Can't argue with any of these (or Frank Cho, from earlier).

Land's stuff is going more towards the photo, which sucks cause he used to be really great (look at his Sojourn stuff and not his Uncanny X-Men).

Turner was great at it. Mike Deodato Jr is good.

Jim Lee.

Land's time at CrossGen was the beginning of his tracing career - check out his earlier stuff (Nightwing, I think?) if you want to see some really good art from him.

Jim Lee is good also, but not as good as he used to be. He's got too much on his plate.

I just hope that no one throws McFarlane up as a great artist, because that guy is terrible. I like Liefeld more than I like McFarlane.

I like Lee, but he hasn't changed much in his style since the 90s.

dawingster
06-01-2009, 10:40 PM
I don't want to bash Greg Land but here's an interesting blog site with lots of "evidence" of his "work"... :D

JIM SMASH ! ! !: MORE GREG LAND RIPOFFS (http://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-greg-land-ripoffs.html)

Troynos
06-01-2009, 10:50 PM
It's a well known fact that he traces pictures.

But damn, it looks good, lol.


And yeah, Jim Lee's style hasn't changed, but does it? He's already one of the best.

dawingster
06-01-2009, 11:01 PM
And yeah, Jim Lee's style hasn't changed, but does it? He's already one of the best.

I'm a huge fan of Jim Lee. I liked Jim Lee's Marvel stuff more so than his Image Comics work. I think it was due to the inker. His WildCats work seemed too clean... if that makes any sense?

BTW, is Jim Lee done his run on the All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder series?

Troynos
06-01-2009, 11:04 PM
I'm a huge fan of Jim Lee. I liked Jim Lee's Marvel stuff more so than his Image Comics work. I think it was due to the inker. His WildCats work seemed too clean... if that makes any sense?

BTW, is Jim Lee done his run on the All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder series?

His X-Men and Image stuff is the same inker: Scott Williams. Been inking Lee for years.

Not sure about the All-Star.

MrClean
06-01-2009, 11:08 PM
It's hard to top the late, great Dave Stevens when it comes to drawing women. I'd say Frank Cho is the next best. Adam Hughes is good, but IMO he doesn't compare to these two.

gijustin5051
06-01-2009, 11:20 PM
I think Jim Lee is just as good now as he was on X-Men back in the day.
I picked up this sketch at this years Wondercon:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh291/gijustin5051/jimleewolverine.jpg

cable-nathan
06-02-2009, 02:43 AM
That is a beautiful piece of work from Hughes. Couple of other names I'd throw out there as well - Salvador Larocca and Ian Churchill.

fogger1138
06-02-2009, 11:57 AM
I think Jim Lee is just as good now as he was on X-Men back in the day.
I picked up this sketch at this years Wondercon:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh291/gijustin5051/jimleewolverine.jpg

Is this the same GIJustin I see on every other forum on the internet? I shouldn't be surprised. :)

gijustin5051
06-02-2009, 04:37 PM
I wouldn't say every other forum on the net only a few :)

Jettfire
06-03-2009, 08:05 PM
That Jim Lee sketch is incredible. I picked up one of his sketchbooks at the same show.

Did you get to watch him draw it for you? It's amazing to see him in action.

Jettfire
06-03-2009, 08:11 PM
I like Lee, but he hasn't changed much in his style since the 90s.


I've got to respectfully disagree here. His work on Batman: Hush showed incredible range in the watercolor pieces he included, he's also done many stories that stretch his skillset like in Flinch #1, and many of his commissions show that he's constantly experimenting with different styles and tools.

Plus, his base style has improved solidly over the past two decades. He does it all and he does it well.

fogger1138
06-03-2009, 10:00 PM
I've got to respectfully disagree here. His work on Batman: Hush showed incredible range in the watercolor pieces he included, he's also done many stories that stretch his skillset like in Flinch #1, and many of his commissions show that he's constantly experimenting with different styles and tools.

Plus, his base style has improved solidly over the past two decades. He does it all and he does it well.

Let me modify my original post then - his mainstream style that you seen in most of his published work hasn't changed much since the 90s. That's not necessarily a bad thing, as some of the artists whose styles have changed over time have changed for the worse. But his art looks almost identical to how it did in the Uncanny/Adjectiveless X-men era, down to poses and all.

He does do it well, and I love his art.

Jettfire
06-04-2009, 02:52 PM
I'm probably just splitting hairs, but I'd say that his work has improved greatly from his X-Men era. It's definitely not identical. Every aspect from his anatomy through his storytelling is leaps and bounds ahead of his earlier work.

Even using the sketch above as an example, he has a better economy of line and solid display of form and structure that he didn't appear to have 10-15 years ago.

Like I said, probably splitting hairs here. Just something I like talking about.

gijustin5051
06-04-2009, 03:04 PM
That Jim Lee sketch is incredible. I picked up one of his sketchbooks at the same show.

Did you get to watch him draw it for you? It's amazing to see him in action.

Yeah I got to watch Jim work on some of this piece on an overhead projector. He was drawing this for a charity auction with some other artists. His speed is also amazing. He drew this piece up quick.

fogger1138
06-04-2009, 04:18 PM
I'm probably just splitting hairs, but I'd say that his work has improved greatly from his X-Men era. It's definitely not identical. Every aspect from his anatomy through his storytelling is leaps and bounds ahead of his earlier work.

Even using the sketch above as an example, he has a better economy of line and solid display of form and structure that he didn't appear to have 10-15 years ago.

I'm talking about his published work, though, so the sketch above doesn't really address that. :)

His anatomy is where I see it the most - I've seen comparisons of Batman and Superman pages next to his old X-men issues where the composition and poses look near-identical: same muscles drawn in the same way, same angles, etc.

Jettfire
06-04-2009, 05:03 PM
I'm talking about his published work, though, so the sketch above doesn't really address that. :)

Sure it does, and I gave reasons why. Sketches or published art, we're discussing Jim Lee as an artist. He doesn't turn off 10-15 years of development just because it's a sketch. Conversely, he doesn't somehow dumb down his published work because it's not for a private collection. He brings his A-game every time he sets pencil to paper.

The only main difference between the sketch above and his usual published work is that Scott Williams didn't give this sketch the polish that the printed material sees.

His anatomy is where I see it the most - I've seen comparisons of Batman and Superman pages next to his old X-men issues where the composition and poses look near-identical: same muscles drawn in the same way, same angles, etc.

I guess if it's not broke, don't fix it.

And like I said earlier as well, this is all probably just splitting hairs. If your main point is that his style hasn't changed, I'd agree that on the surface you can still see a Jim Lee drawing from a mile away. My opinion is that the style has changed because the structure and draftsmanship have improved. It's not a change in the sense that his work looks like Alex Ross or Mike Mignola all of a sudden, it's that he's a better, stronger, faster Jim Lee.

Jettfire
06-04-2009, 05:17 PM
BTW, my apologies for hijacking this thread. I just like talking about comics and art.

ZombieSnake
06-04-2009, 07:07 PM
To get back to the original topic, that sketch is awesome. I love Hughes' work.

66tomm
06-04-2009, 08:48 PM
awesome!

M_renegade
06-04-2009, 08:53 PM
You are all wrong, everyone knows that the best drawer EVER is Robby Liefeld!


*runs away, laughing*