A couple things that bother me....

[Headman]

After watching all of Resolute, I found it to be overall an enjoyable experience, with a few exceptions. While there are plenty of things I liked / loved about the show, there are tons of threads gushing over Resolute, with very little in the criticism department, so I figured I'd go ahead and speak my mind on some of the things I didn't like.

For starters, the deaths. If this is to be more than a one off deal they killed way too many important characters. Major Bludd and Bazooka's losses were indeed disturbing, but killing Storm Shadow and Zartan makes no sense to me at all. That is, if they ever intended to go any further with Resolute to begin with.

The second thing that bothered me was a particular line where Duke said "We're going to kill Cobra Commander"...Woah, Slow down soldier. Don't you mean we're going to stop Cobra Commander? I'm all for killing terrorists, and the line may have worked for any other character, but I expect Duke to be a tad more professional than that. For the most part Duke's dialogue was much better than our dear Commander's, but this one line really came off as sinister to me. And like I said, I'm all for killing, torturing, and performing unwanted sex changes on terrorists. I just didn't like the line.

And then there's Destro's voice. It blows goats. Probably goats raised in the fields of Scotland. Here's a tip, when trying to do a scotish accent, please don't conjure the spirit of the still very much alive Sean Connery. It just sounds stupid.

Other than that, I think it was mostly good. Duke was a bit of an ass hole, and they needed to show that he cared a little more about his Joes, but I'm glad Scarlett is with him and not the flying squirrel. I also enjoyed Tunnel Rat a lot. He almost stole the show in the short amount of screen time he had. Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you?

[KALASH69]

I pretty much agree. Overall it was great, but your right, there were a few things I found off. I generally really really enjoyed it.

The only other thing that bothered me was when Roadblock came in and was like "theres something going on in new york" THEN then show Firefly doing his thing...how did RB know that something happened if it hadn't happened yet?

Either way it was great. I would have liked to have seen a huge armor battle between the HISS tanks and some updated MOBATs.

[CodenameLawman]

All that and a bag of chips.

[samantha]

I loved the show. I enjoyed the finale battle and found CC to be just as arrogant as he has always been. This was not a perfect show but it was the best GI Joe cartoon I have seen. I simply enjoyed it.

[zenfakor]

I liked it alot, was hoping Snake would get scarlett, but oh well, maybe later Duke will dump her or her him.

[arashikage tat]

I've enjoyed every minute of it...my only criticism would be that we lost SS and big Z....other than that I loved it

[Barefoot Jedi]

I hope it continues so Major Bludd's death could be explained. As they left it, it served no purpose to the story other than shock value to open the series with the bloody (pun intended) death of a major (pun intended) character.

Bazooka was always "meh" to me. Sunbow got along fine without having the Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow rivalry a major plot element. It'll actually be refreshing not to have ninja battles if a series does come of this. I thought it was a fitting resolution to that plot thread.

There'll never be a "perfect" show. But this has come closer to what I've wanted to see in a Joe show than anything else, by a wide margin.

On a very nitpicky note, I'm still not fond of COBRA Commander and Destro's skirts nor Stalker's dreadlocks.

I like the more ruthless Joes. They are professional soldiers, after all. They couldn't be spending their time crying and wringing their hands about the bad childhoods their enemies must have had to turn out so twisted.

Love Charlie Adler's COBRA Commander voice: As I said in another thread, just enough of a nod to Christopher Latta's classic performance with a new twist to make it unique.

[Tracker]

i like destro voice that was appropriate to me him being scottish and all

the only think that buggs me a little is the end felt a little too short and as epic as i was expecting and there was some other parts that felt like something was missing may do to editing. I hoping there might be more on DVD

but other than that I feel real good about this show they did a good job the way Gi joe should be know.. I know i going to take some flack for this but I feel that ROC might be something that happen before resolute as both have that near future type feel

[Headman]

I like the more ruthless Joes. They are professional soldiers, after all. They couldn't be spending their time crying and wringing their hands about the bad childhoods their enemies must have had to turn out so twisted.



I don't think they should try and humanize Cobra at all. They're evil, and the Joes should want to wipe them out. I just think in Resolute Duke came off as angry, and I'm not really used to that.

[Fierce Krypton]

I hated Tunnel Rat... loved Roadblock and Gung ho... the 7th step was lame, hopefully we will get a DVD with the full blood content and it will seem better than just a hard punch in the face. Im pretty sure grenades dont make that noise when you pull the pin, could be wrong though. The Res troopers dont get a single kill which is weak. The show came off as really serious in the beginning and then no more Joes die. Duke should have reported to an upper boss figure that was shrouded in secrecy in a dark office and then he would say the "kill cobra commander" line and he would lean forward and you would see that it was hawk. The aerial stuff wasnt all that. Finale should have had a lot more ground troop warfare.... ok thats all I got... oh and less SS talking woulda been nice.

[Headman]

Yeah, Storm Shadow sure liked to talk.

[Tracker]

I hated Tunnel Rat... loved Roadblock and Gung ho... the 7th step was lame, hopefully we will get a DVD with the full blood content and it will seem better than just a hard punch in the face. Im pretty sure grenades dont make that noise when you pull the pin, could be wrong though. The Res troopers dont get a single kill which is weak. The show came off as really serious in the beginning and then no more Joes die. Duke should have reported to an upper boss figure that was shrouded in secrecy in a dark office and then he would say the "kill cobra commander" line and he would lean forward and you would see that it was hawk. The aerial stuff wasnt all that. Finale should have had a lot more ground troop warfare.... ok thats all I got... oh and less SS talking woulda been nice.

what grenade noise are you referring to? if you read Tunnel Rat file card the character is quite appropriate i just didn't like his "uniform"

[Pit Viper]

My problems were:

1. No more Joe deaths after Bazooka.
2. No Hawk.
3. Lackluster battle in Springfield.

[Headman]

Pointless deaths are what green shirts and blue shirts are for. I'm glad only one real Joe died. I actually think that was one too many.

[Shogi]

For the most part story wise, I liked everything. The Springfield invasuion was missing a bit of the action, but they also had time constraints.

Voice wise, I wasn't too crazy about Roadblock's voice but I could deal with it. I thought CC's voice was perfect in the first episode but by the finale it started sounding mechanical, I half expected to hear "Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage....eject!" Tunnel Rat was dead on, I think people forget he's from Brooklyn. His voice sounded like it was from Brooklyn to me

[OSOK]

I liked it, but it was still missing something, maybe it was just too short, but overall I really liked it

[jjk1120]

I loved it, and my only real gripe would be the end battle was too short.

And if they do a series, please make it a prequel. I loved Storm Shadow & Zaran, and would like to know what Major Blood did to get a knife in his chest.

Was he the one that attempted to take command from Cobra Commander that he hinted to?

I wanna know!

[Troynos]

Pointless deaths are what green shirts and blue shirts are for. I'm glad only one real Joe died. I actually think that was one too many.

None of the deaths were pointless.

Bazooka's served the purpose of showing us that Joes can and possibly will die.

Take the explosion where we thought that Gung-Ho and Roadblock blew up.

Back in Sunbow days, we wouldn't have cared because we knew they'd survived. There was no tension. There was no worry or fear that they could be hurt.

Now in Resolute, because of Bazooka dying, we now had that worry and fear that one or both may not have survived. That's the purpose Bazooka's death served, to give us that fear, tension and worry back.


Storm Shadow and Snake-Eyes was a duel to the death. So someone had to die. SE was to let SS live? SS didn't display anything about him wanting to live to fight another day, so escape wasn't an option. For the two of them, this was the end. Only one would walk away. That whole "episode" between them would have been stupid if SS had escaped.

Zartan. He didn't really need to die storywise, and I think he actually managed to survive. They didn't show his dead body, just him getting shot in the back. It wasn't a pointless death, it happened during the course of the battle and in Duke saving Scarlett. So not pointless.

Bludd. I do wish they had expanded on it a little more and it didn't seem to affect the story. The Joes found out about it but they never mentioned it again. Was a little weird. But it did show that CC wasn't the same anymore. It showed that a new and more ruthless CC was in town.

[Troynos]

Now Duke's line "We kill Cobra Commander," made perfect sense it was completely in character.

Can't take the one line without using the ones around it. Duke said "we make sure this can never happen again" before the kill line.

Capturing Cobra Commander prevents what exactly? Puts him on trial, gives him chances to escape, gives him oppotunity to do it all over again. Duke's realizing that the last time Joe and Cobra fought (when Cobra Island was decommissioned and Cobra went underground) they didn't do enough to stop CC and now 10 million people are dead.

Duke's a soldier, not a politician, he knows that sometimes the only way to stop a war is to kill the ones that started it.

The line was a soldier's line.

[Phalsis]

I loved it.
The redesigned HISS tanks were very cool.
Springfield was never if hardly used in the old 'toon.
The story was very good.

There were some quirks but I think this had to do with time constraints in both production and rush in editing.
Such as:

Whatever happened to the fourth Joe with Tunnel rat, the one that stayed on tha balloon platform? Most likely a editing mistake.

I wish the Springfield battle had been more but they did the best with what they had and I'm sure the budget HASBRO gave them. A lot of people forget these things cost lots of money and it runs out.

What I liked:

Duke being ruthless adds a great deal of depth to the character. Could explain the scar. I mean Cobra killed ten million people! What would you expect him to say? He needs a good smack?

They made Cobra the "ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world!". Cobra Commander killed all those techs himself and used their blood to paint the Cobra emblem on the door for fracks sake! This is how a menaical madman should be.

Destro was great and so was Baroness. Destro's uniform was very WWII facist in design and Baroness' uniform matched which I liked. The voices were well done. I liked the comraderie the two had and that dark sense of humor.

I hope they make more.

Phalsis

[Captain Hydra]

I realy enjoyed it all, and I was impressed by the main character deaths. Considering that both sides have amassed quite a list of personal by this point, killing a few to mix things up is an interesting idea. If it turns into a series, they can introduce new characters over time. The SE - SS rivalry has been going on forvever, it's actually kind of nice that it's finally over. Besides, Cobra has how many more Ninjas that could try to avenge him? All those ninjas are pretty redundant, killing the top one opens the way to move one of the others into the spot light. For me Duke and the Joes looked impressive for the first time ever. Their toned down outfits made them look more serious, and Duke came off as more of a hard ass than just an ass.

[GhostGL]

CC just killed 10million people. And he'd of gladly done it again and again till he got what he wanted.

[ceraurus]

I also thought the final battle was a bit of a let down. I know there were time constraints, but I would like to have seen some more background fighting to at least give the impression that it was epic.

I'm also not a fan of characters standing on the middle of a room full of people firing machine guns at them and no one gets hit (at least not much).

Otherwise, I very much enjoyed it.

[Troynos]

The SE - SS rivalry has been going on forvever, it's actually kind of nice that it's finally over.

YES!! Someone else that thinks that. I, for one, am very glad it's over. I'm tired of it taking up alot of Joe screen time. Hell, it's even in the movie for no other reason then the inevitable SE/SS ninja-fight is expected.

I'm tired of it. My least favorite part of Joe. It was cool at first, but now it's just overbearing and overshadows everything else.

Let it end. Enough is enough.

[GhostGL]

Yeah, we had Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Then it was like we got Quick Kick, Jinx, uh then whatever other ninja etc they wanna throw in there. Seen some of the figures they had out, was like wtf did all these ninjas come from!?

[blackman2005]

It was all that I expected from such a short cartoon...
It was tight because it was exactly what the 80's version couldn't be at that time....
I love every minute of it, I wish they added in a cheesy PSA after the credits rolled ....
It should be continued. They definitely killed off two popular characters with the other three in question (CC, SS and Zartan)??

[Syn3sthesia]

The audio on the tv screening was subpar to say the least. It should been 5.1

[DarthBrett]

And then there's Destro's voice. It blows goats. Probably goats raised in the fields of Scotland. Here's a tip, when trying to do a scotish accent, please don't conjure the spirit of the still very much alive Sean Connery. It just sounds stupid.



You know what is funny about this is that I always thought the old Destro voice in the old cartoon was a horrible impression of Sean Connery done by a black guy. I think the Resolute accent and voice are more authentic and sounded way better.

I also want to say that the Cobra soldiers and various personnel weren't unique enough. They all looked the same and all looked like they wore the same outfits. Was there a difference between the Alley Viper and the Cobra grunts (besides the weapon they used)? I would have liked more unique designs used throughout.

I also will say it's cool they showed that characters can die....but it was way over used. By the time Zartan and SS were (supposedly) killed it just seemed like a cheap trick to make people say, "Ooooooh, cool! Somebody died!" Fine that they aren't immortal, but don't make it so common that it takes away the power that you intended for in the first place.

Overall, I give the series a solid 7.

[Hellion42]

I only have a few gripes:

Steve Blum as Duke just did NOT work for me, and I'm somewhat of a Blum fanboy.

I'm glad they killed off SS, because damn his voice was annoying. In fact, just about anyone with an accent sounded fake as hell.

Duke and Scarlett are surrounded by troopers armed with SMGs... and Duke gets hit ONCE. Meanwhile they roll out every cliche dual-pistol pose in the book and pick everyone off. *sigh*

It's nice that they wiped out Springfield and all... but what about the towns NEXT TO Springfield? I would assume that not everything within range was a Cobra front.

Overall though, entertaining.

[GI abe444]

Loved it from begining to end . The Deaths of my favorite Charcters was very sad but overall Just an awesome Show !

[Chigger58]

My highlights and lowpoints would include:

I liked all the Joes overall, I didn't mind the killing, and Bludd is one of my favorite Cobra's too. I still think if they continue this series they might go back in time and we'll see events leading up to Resolute, or Cobra Island decommissioned, etc. This way we're going to see more SS, Bludd, Bazooka, and they can possibly kill off Joes that we didn't see in Resolute. Alpine anyone?

The character designs I completely loved! Duke, I haven't enjoyed a Duke figure since the 80's pack and I have never been a big fan like some. I thought he was pretty kick a$$ in RES. Stalker, loved the updated hair. SE's, one of the best versions that is a departure from the visor or original. I mean this as it would have been easy for them to just use one of those costumes as they are VERY popular. CC, thought he was evil/cool again! Destro, wicked. Baroness, very cool and similar to what we've always had but I liked her a lot. Hell even Gung-ho was cool for me!

I had no problem with the SE and SS story. It had to be done because it's one of the most popular storylines in the Joe-verse. I for one enjoyed all of it and I was glad they had the ba**s to kill SS.

I never caught the Roadblock comment that someone mentioned earlier (about New York) so that's kind of funny.

I REALLY didn't like the fact that the Cobra Troopers still can't hit anyone with their weapons. How close were Duke and Scarlett to them in those barrels and how many rounds did the Troopers get off before D & S had time to make their way around the room killing them all? One of the 2 Joes should have been dead, period. Or move them clear across the room so that it doesn't seem that they are all blind! It was a cool scene to see D & S kicking a$$ but it was tainted by the above for me and it gets a little worse every time I watch it.

The ending. Eh...well, it had it's moments I suppose. Like when CC slit the throat of that Trooper. It felt rushed to me. We just get to start seeing the RES HISS and then there were like 4 Joes that assault Springfield on the ground and guess who comes and saves their butts? SE! He just cuts them all down with his sword and the battle is over. Kind of anti-climatic and if he's THAT skilled (I know, I know, the cartoons, and comics of old have had him saving the Joes a$$es for years but I was hoping for something different in RES) why not just send him in first on every mission?
Lastly, the CC and Duke ending was kind of lame. Of course they didn't find the pod, but it was quite dumb that CC would just lock himself in that chamber. Eventually, since they captured Springfield, they would have been able to get him out and he basically had made himself a prisoner. Why not just make him escape like he always does. That would have been more acceptable for me. If this is a finale to a series that is going to be told in the past then Duke should have just killed him.
I had no problem with Duke turning the blast on him, thought it was cool to see the Joes were able to make decisions like that now.

I'm just hoping this wasn't a one shot deal where Hasbro wanted to roll something out to support a line of toys that they wanted to sell to us. I look forward to more info on RES and I would ABSOLUTELY give it another shot. I agree with whoever said it's the best Joe 'toon to date.

GO RESOLUTE!

[Wry1]

My only complaint is the ending, simply because it, well.....ended.

[Headman]

Now Duke's line "We kill Cobra Commander," made perfect sense it was completely in character.

Can't take the one line without using the ones around it. Duke said "we make sure this can never happen again" before the kill line.

Capturing Cobra Commander prevents what exactly? Puts him on trial, gives him chances to escape, gives him oppotunity to do it all over again. Duke's realizing that the last time Joe and Cobra fought (when Cobra Island was decommissioned and Cobra went underground) they didn't do enough to stop CC and now 10 million people are dead.

Duke's a soldier, not a politician, he knows that sometimes the only way to stop a war is to kill the ones that started it.

The line was a soldier's line.

Let's say Duke arrived in Springfield to find Cobra Commander unarmed and completely caught off guard with his hands over his head. Is Duke going to shoot him in the head or take him into custody? This new Duke seems to have enough of a darkside to pull the trigger, but I can't imagine any other incarnation of Duke doing that.

[Troynos]

Let's say Duke arrived in Springfield to find Cobra Commander unarmed and completely caught off guard with his hands over his head. Is Duke going to shoot him in the head or take him into custody? This new Duke seems to have enough of a darkside to pull the trigger, but I can't imagine any other incarnation of Duke doing that.

And I would have been perfectly fine with that. CC is a guy that killed 10 million people so that "I have all the power, they would bring me all the money". Yeah, I'd shoot him in cold blood myself.

Guy that can do that, doesn't deserve to live.

[Headman]

And I would have been perfectly fine with that. CC is a guy that killed 10 million people so that "I have all the power, they would bring me all the money". Yeah, I'd shoot him in cold blood myself.

Guy that can do that, doesn't deserve to live.

I'd be perfectly fine with that too. But if Luke Skywalker did it, I'd be like "Oh damn! Luke's gone to the darkside!". It's almost the same story with Duke.

[Troynos]

I'd be perfectly fine with that too. But if Luke Skywalker did it, I'd be like "Oh damn! Luke's gone to the darkside!". It's almost the same story with Duke.

Naw. Duke's always been shown as the soldier's soldier, or meant to be shown that way anyways (according to his filecard). So it's not uncharacteristic.

For Luke Skywalker, yeah it would be. But then I've always seen Luke as kind of a pansy.

[DaViper]

I loved the show it was great for what they could do in 60mins. My only 2 complaints are that the ninja vs cobra troopers. I don't know how many times they showed snakes 100 ft away from a group of vipers armed with machine guns and manages to kills them all with just his katana. They just made him out to be too much of a super ninja. My final complaint is I wish they had more time to tell such a great story...

[Tom-1]

Let's say Duke arrived in Springfield to find Cobra Commander unarmed and completely caught off guard with his hands over his head. Is Duke going to shoot him in the head or take him into custody? This new Duke seems to have enough of a darkside to pull the trigger, but I can't imagine any other incarnation of Duke doing that.


The Duke we saw in Resolute would have killed him. The way he interacted with people in the series (Forcing Scarlett to choose him or SE on the spot, willing to let himself die in the OMSK station) he was a much grittier, no-nonsense operator. Regardless of what continuity this falls in, they've seen Cobra Commander rise again and again... he wanted to end it, and even if CC DID surrender, he'd done enough in the past (Killing ten million people) to warrant summary execution.

In fact, Duke tried to do just that.

Duke entered the particle beam control center, and was confronted by Cobra Commander taunting him from behind the pod door. When CC asked "What do you have to say about that?" Duke simply unloaded his rounds at the door, assuming it woul kill the Commander. It didn't, but it doesn't undo the fact that he was going to kill Cobra Commander as he stood there.

Tom

[Jmacq1]

The only real gripe I have besides the Duke/Scarlett thing, is the little "tacked on" bit at the end about the pod being "absent."

I'm pretty sure Ellis intended Cobra Commander to be vaporized. That little tidbit at the end stank of Hasbro tacking it on "just in case."

Ellis was hired to write a one-shot and so he did. Continuing it from this point means either doing it without a handful of characters (some of whom are quite major) or bringing most of them back and turning Resolute into just as much a "laser beams and parachutes" farce as the old Sunbow toon was, where death is concerned.

[ogre_h]

I have to say that I really enjoyed Resolute. And I agree there were some problems. The biggest is that it seemed really rushed. The second was that it assumed you had a working understanding of the Joe mythos. If you didn't you'd be left out in the cold.
Frankly I'm glad people started getting killed. A good story needs a beginning middle and end. It has to get resolved. Besides these are supposed to be the best soldiers in the world. How can they be the best soldiers if they shoot thousands of lasers and no one gets a scratch?
I don't think they should do a series, but rather a bunch of mini-series each one dealing with a new crisis.
But one thing, with all the technology the Joes had, none of their computers had spell check? Geez.

[RayH]

I don't get the complaining about why the cobra troopers arnt killling the main characters. Do you really need to ask?

I mean imagine if the show just ended half way through cause the cobra troopers gunned everyone down. Aw sweet we have this awesome new show but ended in 20 minutes after they were all shot by cobra troopers.

It's like this with with almost fing everything, it's not some huge shock. Why do all the nazi's not shoot indiana jones? why do all the stormtroopers never shoot han. luke, and leia? Why do green zaku's never kill the gundam? I could go on and on and on....

BECAUSE ITS A FING FANTASY!

It's not real that why.

Theres giant death rays, people turning invisible, people doing all sorts of crazy unrealistic acrobatics. It's clearly not realistic. It's more dark and gritty but its still a fantasy.

When have cobra troopers ever been a big threat? They exist to get there asses beat by the joes and make them looks cool. It's like that with grunts everywhere. I'm sorry but if you expect the cannon foder to just kill everybody your nuts.

[Jmacq1]

I don't get the complaining about why the cobra troopers arnt killling the main characters. Do you really need to ask?

I mean imagine if the show just ended half way through cause the cobra troopers gunned everyone down. Aw sweet we have this awesome new show but ended in 20 minutes after they were all shot by cobra troopers.

It's like this with with almost fing everything, it's not some huge shock. Why do all the nazi's not shoot indiana jones? why do all the stormtroopers never shoot han. luke, and leia? Why do green zaku's never kill the gundam? I could go on and on and on....

BECAUSE ITS A FING FANTASY!

It's not real that why.

Theres giant death rays, people turning invisible, people doing all sorts of crazy unrealistic acrobatics. It's clearly not realistic. It's more dark and gritty but its still a fantasy.

When have cobra troopers ever been a big threat? They exist to get there asses beat by the joes and make them looks cool. It's like that with grunts everywhere. I'm sorry but if you expect the cannon foder to just kill everybody your nuts.

While this is all true...I think the point is that for many people it was TOO over-the-top. You can keep it "realistic" by cutting down on the numbers of troops they're fighting at one time.

Personally, it wasn't a problem for me, really. It's just part of the genre, as you say, but I can see why other people wouldn't like it, and I can see that there are ways it could be done "right" without getting the main characters ventilated five minutes into the show.

Though it's true, Duke and Scarlett vs. 4 or 5 Cobra Troopers instead of 20 certainly isn't as exciting.

[Headman]

While this is all true...I think the point is that for many people it was TOO over-the-top. You can keep it "realistic" by cutting down on the numbers of troops they're fighting at one time.

Personally, it wasn't a problem for me, really. It's just part of the genre, as you say, but I can see why other people wouldn't like it, and I can see that there are ways it could be done "right" without getting the main characters ventilated five minutes into the show.

Though it's true, Duke and Scarlett vs. 4 or 5 Cobra Troopers instead of 20 certainly isn't as exciting.

I sometimes wonder how people who want 100% realism chose GI Joe in the first place? GI Joe was never all that realistic.

[MrClean]

I think in the long run, killing Storm Shadow was necessary. Think about it. Snake Eyes cut a path of destruction through every Cobra Soldier he saw without a scratch. If Storm Shadow is his equal, then, he could just as easily cut the same path of destruction through the Joe team. The only thing stopping that would be a continual Snake Eyes vs Storm Shadow battle, which would preclude any other Snake Eyes vs Cobra battles.
I'm not fond of the character development of Resolute Storm Shadow as completely evil, but it served it's purpose.
Besides, if they really wanted him back for a follow up, the Red Ninjas have some powerful ninja hoojoo mojo to bring back the dead. they did it for Snake Eyes in the comics after all.
And I don't think Zartan was dead. They made it a point to make sure we knew Bludd and Bazooka was, but Zartan was left open ended.
I'd like to see how well a direct to dvd movie or regular series would develop the characters a little more too. The pacing on this was too breakneck to allow for that.

[JR0d28]

I was dissapointed. Almost all of Cobra's Top Brass killed. And Cobra Commanders underground base in Springfiled was a Wal-Mart lookin building. It almost seems like the series is gone, they are gonna kill it quick like they did He-Man in 02. Would have been better kill off some troops rather than main guys.

[Troynos]

Destro and the Baroness are alive. Firefly, Scrap-Iron, the Twins, Dreadnoks, all still alive.

CC is still alive (they didn't find the pod he was in, means he escaped). Zartan is still alive (no dead body = no true death, he can come back easy enough).

So only Bludd and Storm Shadow.

Yeah, in some spots the "cobras can't hit the broadside of a barn" was a bit much, but it was pretty cool looking. And the end of the day, that's what matters in a tv/web show.

When viewing these things, you have to take alot of leap of faiths in order to even view them at all. If you took everything at face value and put it thru the "that can't happen" glasses, then the show would suck.

It's entertainment.

Were you entertained?

[JR0d28]

Destro and the Baroness are alive. Firefly, Scrap-Iron, the Twins, Dreadnoks, all still alive.

CC is still alive (they didn't find the pod he was in, means he escaped). Zartan is still alive (no dead body = no true death, he can come back easy enough).

So only Bludd and Storm Shadow.

Yeah, in some spots the "cobras can't hit the broadside of a barn" was a bit much, but it was pretty cool looking. And the end of the day, that's what matters in a tv/web show.

When viewing these things, you have to take alot of leap of faiths in order to even view them at all. If you took everything at face value and put it thru the "that can't happen" glasses, then the show would suck.

It's entertainment.

Were you entertained?


Wasn't Zartan shot in the back by Duke?

[Troynos]

Wasn't Zartan shot in the back by Duke?

And?

He had armor on.

We didn't see where in the back the bullet hit him, or with what force (thru the heart, he'd be dead; thru lungs, probably dead; thru the shoulder, probably not dead; etc..).

No dead body shown (i.e. Bludd) = no verified death

Lots of ways Zartan could have gotten out if he lived.

If it's a one-off (meaning no series), then Zartan is dead. If there's a series, then Zartan is alive.

[RayH]

I'd really love to see resolutes take on the dreadnoks, i could see why they don't have them in it no real time...

but if they ever did a sequel, i think they could be made really menacing. especially if they've been hanging out with zartan. I see them as just ruthless super badd ass anarchist biker guys. Beer swillin hardass murderous bastards

[Troynos]

The Dreadnoks need to get out of the 80s. I would love to see some Resolute Dreadnoks, modernized versions of 'em.

[Slacker]

I hated Tunnel Rat... loved Roadblock and Gung ho... the 7th step was lame, hopefully we will get a DVD with the full blood content and it will seem better than just a hard punch in the face. Im pretty sure grenades dont make that noise when you pull the pin, could be wrong though. The Res troopers dont get a single kill which is weak. The show came off as really serious in the beginning and then no more Joes die. Duke should have reported to an upper boss figure that was shrouded in secrecy in a dark office and then he would say the "kill cobra commander" line and he would lean forward and you would see that it was hawk. The aerial stuff wasnt all that. Finale should have had a lot more ground troop warfare.... ok thats all I got... oh and less SS talking woulda been nice.

that hard punch your talking about.
go back and watch it online, pause it right as his fist impacts.
looks like storm shadows brains pop out the back of his head...
of course he has a line after. maybe they changed their minds..
look into it. i noticed when i first watched, i didnt know he had a line after and stopped it.
i could be wrong, but hey. looks like he got his brains popped out.

[Jeffrozup]

I agree with the part about Zartan. If you don't see a character's body after he is shot, stabbed, blown up etc in a cartoon, movie or soap opera then they are probably still alive.

Bazooka, Storm Shadow and Major Bludd were shown as being dead thus they are gone. CC and Zartan gave the impression they were dead but still left the opportunity alive for them not to be dead.

I have to admit about the deaths, etc of the Joes and Cobras, the opening sequences of Major Bludd and Bazooka being killed really kept me wondering the whole show if "this character" is going to die during battle. That kind of wondering didn't exist with the previous cartoons cuz you always knew the main characters lived.

[Monkeywrench]

Destro and the Baroness are alive. Firefly, Scrap-Iron, the Twins, Dreadnoks, all still alive.

CC is still alive (they didn't find the pod he was in, means he escaped). Zartan is still alive (no dead body = no true death, he can come back easy enough).

So only Bludd and Storm Shadow.

Yeah, in some spots the "cobras can't hit the broadside of a barn" was a bit much, but it was pretty cool looking. And the end of the day, that's what matters in a tv/web show.

When viewing these things, you have to take alot of leap of faiths in order to even view them at all. If you took everything at face value and put it thru the "that can't happen" glasses, then the show would suck.

It's entertainment.

Were you entertained?

Don't forget about Mindbender

[Jmacq1]

Quite frankly, if they were to continue Resolute and bring back the people who were apparently dead, I'd find it just as "toothless" as Sunbow was.

G.I. Joe doesn't need to be insanely realistic, but dead should mean dead.

Zartan? Duke and Scarlett needed a supersonic transport to escape the blast radius in time. I really didn't see any Cobra supersonic transports lying around, and no bomb shelter on earth is going to prevent you from being vaporized at ground zero of a nuclear blast.

Maybe he crawled into an old refrigerator? :P Zartan surviving Siberia would put Resolute right about that level of quality.

Of course, the same should hold true for Cobra Commander, because what was shown in the animation really doesn't match up with "Oh but he got away." (Why's he going to be screaming and desperately trying to pound at the door...after Duke leaves...if he just needs to hit the "escape" button and fly off?) Seems pretty clear Ellis intended him to be dead and the "add on" ending was exactly that...a Hasbro add-on.

Still, I can accept Cobra Commander coming back. Anyone else? Not so much.

[RayH]

Never in the faintest did i think Zartan was actually dead. He got shot in the back by a single bullet, never anywhere vital. on top of him wearing armor. Duke got shot too and he was fine, if it had been lethal they woulda made it like how snake eyes master got iced, or the cobra troopers.

So after going through the trouble of leaving the whole openended "death" why would they let him be blown up by the explosion? If he had been shown shot through the head or something, then i'd say yeah he's toast. Plus if they wanted to solidify his death they probably woulda showed his body being destroyed by the explosion as well.

But he's a main character, and the joes got away zartan probably found a way as well, it's not that big of a strech. He'll be in the sequel and he'll come back as a "surprise"



Storm Shadow... kinda 50 50 on him, because they went to the trouble of showing him being killed. But him being a highly trained ninja and a main character i could see him being written back. But ya never know they may have one of storm-shadows pupils take over and wants revenge for the death of there master or something who knows.

Or like i said before the 7th step may have been messed up, or storm shadow ent into a death like trance, which ninja characters have done in the past.

[Jmacq1]

So basically people are now saying they WANT Resolute to basically be as "non-lethal" as Sunbow was?

"Death is cheap"

Sorry, that'd kill it for me. As I said, I don't need things to be uber-realistic and I don't need people to be getting killed left and right, but if they -do- get killed they should stay dead. Otherwise it becomes just as much a joke as it is in the comic books and was in the Sunbow toons.

Storm Shadow was dead and buried (literally, judging from that pile of stone with the two swords in it).

I can turn the "evidence" right around and note that if Zartan were intended to be alive, they would have shown him skulking away or at least had Scarlett and Duke go "Hey! Where'd Zartan go?"

Ellis already made it clear that he knows nothing about a sequel and hasn't been contacted about one. Once again, all indications are that the author's intent was for Zartan to be dead.

[Unclassified]

duke said hell way to much..

[YoJoeFan81]

Scarlett should be with Snake Eyes. Always.

[Headman]

Scarlett should be with Snake Eyes. Always.

No. Scarlett should be with Duke and Snake Eyes can become romantically involved with Timber.

[Monkeywrench]

Scarlett should be dead at the hands of Zartan

[ltrigg3]

Love it! One of the best things I've seen in a long time. It felt like the great and last Joe story. But I do agree that there where a few small things I did not like but sure can live with. The minor thngs was the looks of Roadblock, Strike, and Rock-n-Roll. I did not mind the deaths, because it felt like this was to the last Joe story. That being said, I felt that I was cheated that Duke lived. (I know. I know. You hate me.) Don't get me worng, I like Duke. He was one my favorite Joes, but it would have felt more real and make it feel like every thing was leading up the finial battle.

[CallMeRotten]

I loved the show. I enjoyed the finale battle and found CC to be just as arrogant as he has always been. This was not a perfect show but it was the best GI Joe cartoon I have seen. I simply enjoyed it.

Ditto.

[CSunkyst]

that hard punch your talking about.
go back and watch it online, pause it right as his fist impacts.
looks like storm shadows brains pop out the back of his head...
of course he has a line after. maybe they changed their minds..
look into it. i noticed when i first watched, i didnt know he had a line after and stopped it.
i could be wrong, but hey. looks like he got his brains popped out.

It's not like his brains had to pop out all at once in one clean piece like a Itchy and Scratchy cartoon. I'm sure Evil Tommy had enough left for one last thought.

And there were red bits flying out back, that punch almost looks like it smashed in the front part of his skull. I'd definately say that punch left his brains a pulpy mush. I'd chock any last words (or thoughts as his mask doesn't appear to move with his lips) from Evil Tommy up to artistic liberty.

Maybe it was just supposed to reflect his last thoughts right before the most awesom punch of all time landed.

I've hoid of gettin your brain's beat out, bit this is ridiculous!!! ::waggles cigar::

[vipertaja]

I don't get the complaining about why the cobra troopers arnt killling the main characters. Do you really need to ask?

I mean imagine if the show just ended half way through cause the cobra troopers gunned everyone down. Aw sweet we have this awesome new show but ended in 20 minutes after they were all shot by cobra troopers.

It's like this with with almost fing everything, it's not some huge shock. Why do all the nazi's not shoot indiana jones? why do all the stormtroopers never shoot han. luke, and leia? Why do green zaku's never kill the gundam? I could go on and on and on....

BECAUSE ITS A FING FANTASY!

It's not real that why.

Theres giant death rays, people turning invisible, people doing all sorts of crazy unrealistic acrobatics. It's clearly not realistic. It's more dark and gritty but its still a fantasy.

When have cobra troopers ever been a big threat? They exist to get there asses beat by the joes and make them looks cool. It's like that with grunts everywhere. I'm sorry but if you expect the cannon foder to just kill everybody your nuts.

The point is not that cobra troopers should kill joes left and right, but if Duke and Scarlet choose to just stand around a few feet away shooting a pistol or whatnot they certainly would deserve to die IMO. ANY SOLDIERS WOULD HIT THAT. Especially if there are 20 of them and they're rapid firing. Now maybe put them a bit further away and maybe Duke and Scarlet could be running or diving for cover right away or something...not exactly realistic either but it works well in movies. To me it just went beyond stupid in those parts, but to each their own.

[dj7000]

Seriously, must everything be nitpicked to death. Good point though on the distance between the cobra shooters and scarlet/duke. Other than that i have no problem with the misses. Duke still got hit so...

[topnotch97]

it just ended too quickly.

the final battle at the underground Wal-mart/Target store.



Mallspot eh? wally's & target rolled into one.

[dj7000]

Quite frankly, if they were to continue Resolute and bring back the people who were apparently dead, I'd find it just as "toothless" as Sunbow was.

G.I. Joe doesn't need to be insanely realistic, but dead should mean dead.

Zartan? Duke and Scarlett needed a supersonic transport to escape the blast radius in time. I really didn't see any Cobra supersonic transports lying around, and no bomb shelter on earth is going to prevent you from being vaporized at ground zero of a nuclear blast.

Maybe he crawled into an old refrigerator? :P Zartan surviving Siberia would put Resolute right about that level of quality.

Of course, the same should hold true for Cobra Commander, because what was shown in the animation really doesn't match up with "Oh but he got away." (Why's he going to be screaming and desperately trying to pound at the door...after Duke leaves...if he just needs to hit the "escape" button and fly off?) Seems pretty clear Ellis intended him to be dead and the "add on" ending was exactly that...a Hasbro add-on.

Still, I can accept Cobra Commander coming back. Anyone else? Not so much.


Well, we pretty mcuh thought Gung ho/Roadblock were dead and lo and behold, they found a way to escape. I think Zartan found a way to escape as did CC. CC was pounding on the door becasue Dule changed the focus of the ray. CC wanted it on Washington, so Duke screwed up his plans. He wanted out to be able to change it back. I doubt Cobra is dumb enought to build an entire elaborate facility without an escape hatch/plan in there somewhere. Whatever the ending, im glad we got it like that cuz now there's possibility for more. how the hell can you complain about that.

[Jmacq1]

Well, we pretty mcuh thought Gung ho/Roadblock were dead and lo and behold, they found a way to escape. I think Zartan found a way to escape as did CC. CC was pounding on the door becasue Dule changed the focus of the ray. CC wanted it on Washington, so Duke screwed up his plans. He wanted out to be able to change it back. I doubt Cobra is dumb enought to build an entire elaborate facility without an escape hatch/plan in there somewhere. Whatever the ending, im glad we got it like that cuz now there's possibility for more. how the hell can you complain about that.

Key difference: The SHOWED Gung-Ho and Roadblock's survival. If Zartan survived, it should have been important enough to show it, or at least to have Duke or Scarlett look back and go "Hey, where'd Zartan go?" "Oh, don't worry about it, the blast will finish him off."

[dj7000]

None of the deaths were pointless.

Bazooka's served the purpose of showing us that Joes can and possibly will die.

Take the explosion where we thought that Gung-Ho and Roadblock blew up.

Back in Sunbow days, we wouldn't have cared because we knew they'd survived. There was no tension. There was no worry or fear that they could be hurt.

Now in Resolute, because of Bazooka dying, we now had that worry and fear that one or both may not have survived. That's the purpose Bazooka's death served, to give us that fear, tension and worry back.


Storm Shadow and Snake-Eyes was a duel to the death. So someone had to die. SE was to let SS live? SS didn't display anything about him wanting to live to fight another day, so escape wasn't an option. For the two of them, this was the end. Only one would walk away. That whole "episode" between them would have been stupid if SS had escaped.

Zartan. He didn't really need to die storywise, and I think he actually managed to survive. They didn't show his dead body, just him getting shot in the back. It wasn't a pointless death, it happened during the course of the battle and in Duke saving Scarlett. So not pointless.

Bludd. I do wish they had expanded on it a little more and it didn't seem to affect the story. The Joes found out about it but they never mentioned it again. Was a little weird. But it did show that CC wasn't the same anymore. It showed that a new and more ruthless CC was in town.

spot on. These complaints really are unwarranted when you consider the effectiveness the show had and the possibilities it's now created. People not looking at it from that perspective I think were looking for a final Joe cartoon form the get go. My question is why? Why would you wnat to nix something that has so much promise? For the sake of the movie? For the sake of relivign break dancing snake eyes, and wimpy CC? Come on, thats fine if you wnat that, then enjoy it, but dont try to put down this genre of Joe becasue it doesnt fall in line with previous versions. This is the new Joe.

[dj7000]

Key difference: The SHOWED Gung-Ho and Roadblock's survival. If Zartan survived, it should have been important enough to show it, or at least to have Duke or Scarlett look back and go "Hey, where'd Zartan go?" "Oh, don't worry about it, the blast will finish him off."

What's gonna make more of an impact. Your scenario or Zartan showing up in an episode suprisngly having a a flashback of how he escaped the explosion. Can no one think outside of the possibilities of this show? That's the whole point of it ...to keep you guessing...to keep you coming back. that called good writing. that's why people want to see sequels, they want to know what happens next. This whol cartoon was based off of that premise yet so many people have isolated it becasue they dont understand the word resolute or they just cant get past the fact that this GIjoe cartoon is better than the old stuff.

[Jmacq1]

What's gonna make more of an impact. Your scenario or Zartan showing up in an episode suprisngly having a a flashback of how he escaped the explosion. Can no one think outside of the possibilities of this show? That's the whole point of it ...to keep you guessing...to keep you coming back. that called good writing. that's why people want to see sequels, they want to know what happens next. This whol cartoon was based off of that premise yet so many people have isolated it becasue they dont understand the word resolute or they just cant get past the fact that this GIjoe cartoon is better than the old stuff.

As of right now, there's nothing to "come back" to. The show is DONE. This is a self-contained one-shot affair unless or until something else gets announced. It was NOT based on the premise of "what happens next?" This is NOT necessarily a "pilot" for a new ongoing show. If Hasbro had intended it to be the pilot for a new ongoing show, they would've given it a better timeslot and a HELL of a lot more advertising. I understand the word "resolute" just fine. I can even provide a dictionary definition if you like. I also said NOTHING about the old cartoon. In fact, I've stated here on these boards that I think this is the best G.I. Joe animation we've seen yet. But that doesn't mean we should blow it out of proportion into something it's not.

In short your scenario has no "impact" at all, because there's no place for Zartan to "show up" except in your imagination.

For a turn of phrase: Why can no one recognize this show for what it is?

Warren Ellis was hired to write a one-shot. He wrote a one-shot. He's publicly stated that he has no knowledge of a sequel or continuation, or at the very least hasn't been contacted about one.

[dj7000]

As of right now, there's nothing to "come back" to. The show is DONE. This is a self-contained one-shot affair unless or until something else gets announced. It was NOT based on the premise of "what happens next?" This is NOT necessarily a "pilot" for a new ongoing show. If Hasbro had intended it to be the pilot for a new ongoing show, they would've given it a better timeslot and a HELL of a lot more advertising. I understand the word "resolute" just fine. I can even provide a dictionary definition if you like. I also said NOTHING about the old cartoon. In fact, I've stated here on these boards that I think this is the best G.I. Joe animation we've seen yet. But that doesn't mean we should blow it out of proportion into something it's not.

In short your scenario has no "impact" at all, because there's no place for Zartan to "show up" except in your imagination.

For a turn of phrase: Why can no one recognize this show for what it is?

Warren Ellis was hired to write a one-shot. He wrote a one-shot. He's publicly stated that he has no knowledge of a sequel or continuation, or at the very least hasn't been contacted about one.


reallly? Nothing to come back to? No destro or Baroness to be saved? No Flint, Lady Jaye, xamot, tomax characters to be worked into the story. Just plop! Done! With 75% OF THE Characters in limited or off screen roles, Cobra Commander not dead as would be the case with a finale, but rather absent! Is this what your saying? Is this Hasbro's tribute to the fans-half the characters missing and we're left wondering what happened. Or half the military equipment used before, now missing...this is your conclusion?

Well, i'd say quite a slap in the face of the fans if this indeed is it. My favorites not even shown on the screen. Now if this movie was 3 hours long and encompassed everything i said was missing, then you'd have a point, but right now, you have no point and very little proof that this was any semblance of a finale at all given what I previously stated. I'm curious as to what you think made these episodes final in your "imagination"...What in the movie/show scream THAT's IT! THE END! Did you see Zartan shot in the head? did you see him layin on a slab? No. SO there's a realm of possibility real or not, which automatcially opens it up to the possibility of more shows. If that element was missing from this show...the element of what if...then you'd have your finale. Such is not the case.

And i buy nothing from what the dirt sheets say about what Warren Ellis/Hasbro will or will not do. Ever think they might wanna change there minds?

[darth_paul]

After watching all of Resolute, I found it to be overall an enjoyable experience, with a few exceptions. While there are plenty of things I liked / loved about the show, there are tons of threads gushing over Resolute, with very little in the criticism department, so I figured I'd go ahead and speak my mind on some of the things I didn't like.

For starters, the deaths. If this is to be more than a one off deal they killed way too many important characters. Major Bludd and Bazooka's losses were indeed disturbing, but killing Storm Shadow and Zartan makes no sense to me at all. That is, if they ever intended to go any further with Resolute to begin with.

The second thing that bothered me was a particular line where Duke said "We're going to kill Cobra Commander"...Woah, Slow down soldier. Don't you mean we're going to stop Cobra Commander? I'm all for killing terrorists, and the line may have worked for any other character, but I expect Duke to be a tad more professional than that. For the most part Duke's dialogue was much better than our dear Commander's, but this one line really came off as sinister to me. And like I said, I'm all for killing, torturing, and performing unwanted sex changes on terrorists. I just didn't like the line.

And then there's Destro's voice. It blows goats. Probably goats raised in the fields of Scotland. Here's a tip, when trying to do a scotish accent, please don't conjure the spirit of the still very much alive Sean Connery. It just sounds stupid.

Other than that, I think it was mostly good. Duke was a bit of an ass hole, and they needed to show that he cared a little more about his Joes, but I'm glad Scarlett is with him and not the flying squirrel. I also enjoyed Tunnel Rat a lot. He almost stole the show in the short amount of screen time he had. Anyway, those are my thoughts. What say you?

I agree with your points, especially about Destro's voice (I said the exact same thing in aother thread) and about the Duke and Scarlett pairing. I always liked them together better than putting her with Snake Eyes as it was in the comics. The deaths were disturbing to me as well, as since overall Joe is a fantasy there's only so much you can take it into reality without pissing off fans with character deaths. Personally I've always hated reading the letters pages of the comics with letter after letter from people wanting to see more major characters killed rather than just troops from both sides. Well, the problem with that is that out of 1,000+ characters somebody is someone's favorite and there's always room to expand on any character and if they're dead, well there goes all hope for character development. That's why imo only greenshirts and vipers should die.

[Jmacq1]

reallly? Nothing to come back to? No destro or Baroness to be saved? No Flint, Lady Jaye, xamot, tomax characters to be worked into the story. Just plop! Done! With 75% OF THE Characters in limited or off screen roles, Cobra Commander not dead as would be the case with a finale, but rather absent! Is this what your saying? Is this Hasbro's tribute to the fans-half the characters missing and we're left wondering what happened. Or half the military equipment used before, now missing...this is your conclusion?

I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to understand what I'm saying: As of right now, there is no Resolute sequel or series in the works, as far as anyone here knows. Until such time as it is announced (if it comes at all) and is made clear that the story takes place after this one, there is no "sequel" for Zartan to pop up in. That's my point. The point you fail to realize for some reason. I'm not saying there's no way on Earth they'll ever make a Resolute sequel. I'm saying that right now, that sequel only exists in the imaginations of some of the posters here. Yourself included. When you can point me to an official announcement of Resolute II or whatever, then you have an argument. Until then...what we have is IT.

Well, i'd say quite a slap in the face of the fans if this indeed is it. My favorites not even shown on the screen. Now if this movie was 3 hours long and encompassed everything i said was missing, then you'd have a point, but right now, you have no point and very little proof that this was any semblance of a finale at all given what I previously stated. I'm curious as to what you think made these episodes final in your "imagination"...What in the movie/show scream THAT's IT! THE END! Did you see Zartan shot in the head? did you see him layin on a slab? No. SO there's a realm of possibility real or not, which automatcially opens it up to the possibility of more shows. If that element was missing from this show...the element of what if...then you'd have your finale. Such is not the case.

Sorry you're disappointed with what we have, but Hasbro never stated this was the pilot for a new series. They said there was "a chance" that there might be more. Believe it or not, that doesn't automatically translate into "it's gonna happen," particularly if say, Hasbro decides to devote its' resources to a more movie-linked, kid-friendly animated version, which would be the logical step in the wake of the movie. As for what made it "final?" Oh, I dunno, the deaths of Storm Shadow, Major Bludd, Zartan, and (potentially) Cobra Commander, the capture of Baroness and Destro, and the utter destruction of Cobra's home base (no doubt with the bulk of their military forces along the way) as well as the USS Flagg. If you can't see how this series could very easily serve as a "finale" or at the very least a self-contained story then you're either blind or just deliberately ignorant.

Oh and you really think being shot in the back can't be fatal? You really think a character -can't- be dead if they don't show the autopsy? I guess you think Snake-Eyes didn't kill any Cobra Troopers in this show, either, huh?

And i buy nothing from what the dirt sheets say about what Warren Ellis/Hasbro will or will not do. Ever think they might wanna change there minds?

Sure, they might. But as of RIGHT NOW (which was my goddamn point in the first place) there's no sequel in the works that anyone knows of. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[dj7000]

I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to understand what I'm saying: As of right now, there is no Resolute sequel or series in the works, as far as anyone here knows. Until such time as it is announced (if it comes at all) and is made clear that the story takes place after this one, there is no "sequel" for Zartan to pop up in. That's my point. The point you fail to realize for some reason. I'm not saying there's no way on Earth they'll ever make a Resolute sequel. I'm saying that right now, that sequel only exists in the imaginations of some of the posters here. Yourself included. When you can point me to an official announcement of Resolute II or whatever, then you have an argument. Until then...what we have is IT.



Sorry you're disappointed with what we have, but Hasbro never stated this was the pilot for a new series. They said there was "a chance" that there might be more. Believe it or not, that doesn't automatically translate into "it's gonna happen," particularly if say, Hasbro decides to devote its' resources to a more movie-linked, kid-friendly animated version, which would be the logical step in the wake of the movie. As for what made it "final?" Oh, I dunno, the deaths of Storm Shadow, Major Bludd, Zartan, and (potentially) Cobra Commander, the capture of Baroness and Destro, and the utter destruction of Cobra's home base (no doubt with the bulk of their military forces along the way) as well as the USS Flagg. If you can't see how this series could very easily serve as a "finale" or at the very least a self-contained story then you're either blind or just deliberately ignorant.

Oh and you really think being shot in the back can't be fatal? You really think a character -can't- be dead if they don't show the autopsy? I guess you think Snake-Eyes didn't kill any Cobra Troopers in this show, either, huh?



Sure, they might. But as of RIGHT NOW (which was my goddamn point in the first place) there's no sequel in the works that anyone knows of. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


Well, jesus Captain obvious! No damn duh this was the only one, for now. And again, you have no idea what is or is not in the works based on heresay yet you continue to try to present it as fact. I could say im white and I'm really black...you dont know that for sure. For all we know they could be working on a sequel right now. Was zartan shot in the back? Who knows...it could been the head or arm, who knows. Did CC get obliterated? who knows? What i do know is that Bludd, Bazooka were pronounced and seen dead. Troops were cut with a knife and blown up and seen dead! I go by what i see as fact.



I'm saying there's more evidence to lead people to belive that there is more than one of these series to come. You seem to have an issue with people getting excited about the possibility of there being another one so you make a matter of fact proclamation that this is it then pull all kinds of nonsensical rationale outta your but as to why it's a fact. Then you say, there may or may not be a sequel. So which one is it. I'm simply countering your nonsense with hypothetical yet more feasible possibilites. You're saying no, I'm saying yes. That's the basis of our argument and neither one of us is right.


Im not arguing with you over the obvious. Im arguing with you on your logic or lack of it as to why you think it's the final. Not based off of what Hasbro/Ellis said, but off off what was seen in the show. You apparently can not, or do not want to see the openedness of the show, throughout the episodes and the finale. It could very well be the end. I agree. But it may not be. I;ve presented obvious arguments for it to continue. you've presented fabrications to support your thinking. Who's using there imagaination now?

[lister]

dj7000,

The reason Jmacq1 is saying "Resolute" is a one-shot deal is because all reports from Hasbro and Warren Ellis have stated that it is a one-shot deal. You cannot disregard info given by the shows creators simply because you don't want it to be true.

Are there more stories to potentially be told? Of course.

Could Hasbro turn around and say there's another one-off or an ongoing series in the works? Of course.

But as of right now, the information we have is that this is it.

[copperhead33]

for all the "resolute will be using real bullets" talk, then to show Duke and Scarlet shot at by a million cobra's and not oh i don't know...dying, just seemed kind of goofy.
And while CC seemed pretty cool, the lack of seeing him in any sort of showdown in the finale was a let down.

I don't like anime, so i hated the look of this, and none of the voicework really stuck out as memorable.
i expected more out of Ellis though.

[Greyryder]

I still don't understand why people are calling this anime. It looked like western style animation, to me. It was just done in a higher quality than we're used to seeing. No giant eyes, no tiny mouths, no thin stretched proportions. I, for one, was glad to see the lack of anime influence in the animation.

The only thing I saw come out the back of Stormshadow's head was speed lines. They were probably done to help drive home the force of the impact, sort of like the chest strike that trashed the back of his tunic and smashed his back pack.

Zartan is easily still alive. He was shot once in the back, with a pistol, and shown to be wearing relatively heavy armor. I doubt that he was hurt too badly to be able to get clear, before the place went sky high. He's probably off somewhere, plotting his revenge against Duke, and wondering who keeps drinking all of the grape soda.

Tunnel Rat was awesome. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language, all of it was great.

What happened to everybody else on the hypersonic transport? We saw Wild Bill and a copilot flying it, while Ripcord and Airborne were getting Duke and Scarlett kitted out. By the time they bugged out, it seemed like Ripcord was the only one left to fly the plane.

I'm so sick of hearing about the Duke/Scarlett/Snake Eyes thing. I've decided that in my Joeverse, Scarlett is hooked up with Tripwire. But, they keep it strictly proffesional, when they're on the clock.

[vipertaja]

I'm so sick of hearing about the Duke/Scarlett/Snake Eyes thing. I've decided that in my Joeverse, Scarlett is hooked up with Tripwire. But, they keep it strictly proffesional, when they're on the clock.

Tripwire falling for her would make sense, after all he trips on everything else... :)
(Yeah, lame, I know)

[Zefram]

The second thing that bothered me was a particular line where Duke said "We're going to kill Cobra Commander"...Woah, Slow down soldier. Don't you mean we're going to stop Cobra Commander? I'm all for killing terrorists, and the line may have worked for any other character, but I expect Duke to be a tad more professional than that.

I'm more offended that he didn't say it after Moscow got nuked. Cobra Commander had just killed more Russians in 5min than Hitler did in 12 YEARS, but sinking his boat pisses him off?

But hey, I guess that's okay as long as it's not on american soil, but that begs the question, why wouldn't Washington, or even the FLAGG, be his FIRST target?

[Hellion42]

why wouldn't Washington, or even the FLAGG, be his FIRST target?

Arrogance/drama/etc

[RolandofGilead]

Didn't Duke say that Cobra Commander only knocked the Flagg out of commission because he wanted them to see him win?

[Foil]

I'm glad they killed off SS

Duke and Scarlett are surrounded by troopers armed with SMGs... and Duke gets hit ONCE. Meanwhile they roll out every cliche dual-pistol pose in the book and pick everyone off. *sigh*



Gotta agree. That was my big complaint about the show, too many Joes destroy everything / everyone with little to no damage. Now if this was Sunbow or even Dic I would have expected this, but as has been pointed out Resolute took a much harder edge. I love that but come on, Joes are the best but they aren't gods. That goes for Snake Eyes as well. I'm a fan of his for sure but seriously, he goes on a friggin killing spree in Springfield and barely has a gun turned his direction.

Oh and the gun fight flirting with Scarlett and Duke got old pretty quick. ha!

Sorry to vent. I really did enjoy Resolute and I'm happy to find a group for discussing my GI Joe and Cobra love.

[Headman]

Yay! This is the longest running thread I've ever started. :P