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The Conflict
04-22-2009, 05:09 PM
Who thinks they die?
sunshine
04-22-2009, 05:10 PM
I won't believe it until I see a body!
The Conflict
04-22-2009, 05:12 PM
It almost seems as if they are trying to kill off the major players from the sunbow series.
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 05:15 PM
I posted this in another thread but Roadblock fires a missle of some kind in a promo trailer and we haven't seen that yet, so he at the very least is still alive. But it's clear that almost no one is safe now.
NO ONE.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 05:17 PM
They should be dead this is end game and it will give duke a chance to avenge his bromance. Plus does anyone have any idea who the two joes were that got hit by the piece of stratolight?
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 05:17 PM
Lol, they probably hid somewhere in the hallway they were in.
ultra8294
04-22-2009, 05:17 PM
Who thinks they die?
POOR StormShadow!!!
RIP
granbeetle
04-22-2009, 05:18 PM
I don't think they bit it. Yet.
The Conflict
04-22-2009, 05:20 PM
I posted this in another thread but Roadblock fires a missle of some kind in a promo trailer and we haven't seen that yet, so he at the very least is still alive. But it's clear that almost no one is safe now.
NO ONE.but even if he does survive that explosion,he will be so injuried he couldnt possibly be firering a missle later on. The scene you speak of must be like the old promo clip from last years convention,the one with Duke and RB running from the troopers and SE kills them all,not actually in resolute.
crazyfellow1
04-22-2009, 05:20 PM
They should be dead this is end game and it will give duke a chance to avenge his bromance. Plus does anyone have any idea who the two joes were that got hit by the piece of stratolight?
I think it's Lady Jaye and Flint, they were in the room when tunnel rat was explaining his plan.
karamazov80
04-22-2009, 05:21 PM
As long as Flint and Zartan survive, all the others can die for all I care :)
Deathsynger
04-22-2009, 05:21 PM
I'm thinking they went in another door than the one that got blown up...
Zefram
04-22-2009, 05:22 PM
Shouldn't all this crap be in the resolute section, with A SPOILER WARNING?!
Some of us are waiting for Friday!
Seriously people. Save the spoilers for your cars.
http://sg.88db.com/sg/HTML/en-us/indexmkt/Lifestyle/images/car_spoiler.gif
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 05:22 PM
Oh, he killed him... :/
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 05:25 PM
I think it's Lady Jaye and Flint, they were in the room when tunnel rat was explaining his plan.
I don't think so, there was another Joe in the room too. Duke and Scarlett weren't there because they were in the arctic or something and the other 4 Joes were on an assignment so I think they are safe.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 05:26 PM
the problem with it being flint is that he is in command presently and that would not make sense for him to go and also if he went he is a pilot he probably would have piloted the baloon
arashikage tat
04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
I think they're still alive
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 05:28 PM
the problem with it being flint is that he is in command presently and that would not make sense for him to go and also if he went he is a pilot he probably would have piloted the baloon
Good point, it might be just a generic Greenshirt like they had in the plane in the 6th (or 5th) episode.
crazyfellow1
04-22-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't think so, there was another Joe in the room too. Duke and Scarlett weren't there because they were in the arctic or something and the other 4 Joes were on an assignment so I think they are safe.
I think that was Dial-tone
hectorxd
04-22-2009, 05:28 PM
this movie is not leaving much room for a series. if SS is really dead that would suck for the future episodes.
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
If it was Flint and Lady Jaye, they would have talked while they were up there to let us know they weren't greenshirts. As for the promo clip, everything from that clip has appeared in this episode, so that part will, too.
I will take a ban bet on it.
The Conflict
04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Im so sad that there are only 20 minutes left.
camper
04-22-2009, 05:31 PM
Well, we have already seen figures for Roadblock, Hung Ho, Duke, SE, Tunnel Rat, Destro, CC, Wild Bill. (Front page.)
Then again, we have not seen Flint, R&R, Airborne, Lady Jaye, Baroness, Zartan, Firefly, ....
I don't like being a conspiracy theorist. Nevermind. Carry on.
crazyfellow1
04-22-2009, 05:34 PM
If it was Flint and Lady Jaye, they would have talked while they were up there to let us know they weren't greenshirts. As for the promo clip, everything from that clip has appeared in this episode, so that part will, too.
I will take a ban bet on it.
you're probably right
KingCobra
04-22-2009, 05:34 PM
OMG, this just confirmed. The two Joes that fell to their death were... Dial-tone and Ripcord. ;)
statesofeuphoria
04-22-2009, 05:35 PM
no bodies=not dead
Troynos
04-22-2009, 05:35 PM
/sigh
Spoilers.
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 05:36 PM
OMG, this just confirmed. The two Joes that fell to their death were... Dial-tone and Ripcord. ;)
That's some powerful wishful thinking there, bro. LOL
Can we get a mod to edit the title to something less spoilery?
Troynos
04-22-2009, 05:37 PM
Well, we have already seen figures for Roadblock, Hung Ho, Duke, SE, Tunnel Rat, Destro, CC, Wild Bill. (Front page.)
Then again, we have not seen Flint, R&R, Airborne, Lady Jaye, Baroness, Zartan, Firefly, ....
I don't like being a conspiracy theorist. Nevermind. Carry on.
Only Roadblock, Destro and Duke are confirmed Resolute Designs.
Gung-Ho is movie. Wild Bill is probably movie.
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 05:38 PM
Only Roadblock, Destro and Duke are confirmed Resolute Designs.
Gung-Ho is movie. Wild Bill is probably movie.
ROC and Resolute have no connections what so ever.
G.I.Eddie
04-22-2009, 05:40 PM
OMG, this just confirmed. The two Joes that fell to their death were... Dial-tone and Ripcord. ;)
best news of the day!
camper
04-22-2009, 05:42 PM
Only Roadblock, Destro and Duke are confirmed Resolute Designs.
Gung-Ho is movie. Wild Bill is probably movie.
Look at the designs and then Resolute. They match.
Wait, edit my previous -- we already got a Firefly Resolute figure, too.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 05:46 PM
Look at the designs and then Resolute. They match.
Wait, edit my previous -- we already got a Firefly Resolute figure, too.
Look at the screen cap for Gung-Ho in the video game, it's an exact match even done to the Trooper vest, with the lower pockets. Resolute Gung-Ho doesn't have those pockets.
Wild Bill is iffy, but by the colors it leans more towards movie. Resolute WB looks more like his vintage.
We have a Firefly? We have a movie Firefly that is close and parts on another figure that could have been used to for a Resolute Firefly.
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 06:01 PM
I just rewatched that trailer at gijoeresolute.com. The unshown part with Roadblock...he's fiing....
...Gung Ho's rifle. :(
best news of the day!
He was kidding.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 06:03 PM
I just rewatched that trailer at gijoeresolute.com. The unshown part with Roadblock...he's fiing....
...Gung Ho's rifle. :(
He was kidding.
So was G.I. Eddie.
So Gung-Ho is just wounded. Ellis did say the Flagg's infirmiry would get alot of action.
camper
04-22-2009, 06:03 PM
Look at the screen cap for Gung-Ho in the video game, it's an exact match even done to the Trooper vest, with the lower pockets. Resolute Gung-Ho doesn't have those pockets.
Wild Bill is iffy, but by the colors it leans more towards movie. Resolute WB looks more like his vintage.
We have a Firefly? We have a movie Firefly that is close and parts on another figure that could have been used to for a Resolute Firefly.
I hear you. It just seemed to me that the Roadblock a Gung Ho work ups that we have seen on the front page are very close to their Resolute counterparts. I would have to go back and re-watch the webisodes to catch Wild Bill's vest to compare them as you did with the others.
The Firefly I speak of is wave 13 Firefly on the Resolute card. We have had blue and red Troopers, CC, Duke, Firefly, and a BAT released thus far. The SS we saw front paged today was also on a Resolute card.
Good catches.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 06:06 PM
The Firefly I speak of is wave 13 Firefly on the Resolute card. We have had blue and red Troopers, CC, Duke, Firefly, and a BAT released thus far. The SS we saw front paged today was also on a Resolute card.
Good catches.
Firefly's not on a Resolute Card. He's just a different painted FF.
Duke, Cobra Trooper, CC, Storm Shadow are the only definates. Can assume that Roadblock and Destro are because those designs match "exactly" (exact is a relative term when going from cartoon to toy). Gung-Ho is very close, and probably close enough.
G.I.Eddie
04-22-2009, 06:08 PM
thanks Troynos...yeah, i was totally...
camper
04-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Firefly's not on a Resolute Card. He's just a different painted FF.
Duke, Cobra Trooper, CC, Storm Shadow are the only definates. Can assume that Roadblock and Destro are because those designs match "exactly" (exact is a relative term when going from cartoon to toy). Gung-Ho is very close, and probably close enough.
I stand corrected, I thought Firefly was on a Resolute card.
I fold.
kneroh
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
I love that I hopped on here to get the youtube links if there were any and right in the feed is an announcement of who dies... 3 minutes after the ep was supposed to premiere. Can we please not post news without a spoiler warning? This is internet 101.
Fast_Draw
04-22-2009, 06:21 PM
But it's clear that almost no one is safe now.
NO ONE.
it was clear long before we even saw any animation. the writers/animators/whatever said there would be deaths and that no one was safe.
Griff
04-22-2009, 06:32 PM
i want roadblock to live...his psychotic laughter as he's gunning down cobras makes him live-worthy. Gunghow is cool too and i dotn want either one to go but if i have to choose...its roadblock all the way.
Unclassified
04-22-2009, 06:33 PM
ok im under the impression that after these lil episodes, we aint gonna have a gi joe that we all know. ss dead wtf, first off he was dying cus the suicide slits in the wrist. 2nd of all he wouldnt of lasted that long in a fight, he would of been gettin a lil delerious by then, all the adrenelin flowing the blood would be pouring.. but wtf he's dead. an they insist on makin a figure of him why?
road block an gung ho are obviously dead. but then again, im sure they live cus we are lead to believe they died. but i dont know man. i'm kinda not liking this. kill off the characters an then there is no cartoon. an what a catch of the sword from se huh, wow that hurt.. i'm a lil salty though over these last 2 episodes. oh one more thing, where's tunnel rat come from, what state, cus that mofo got a bahston/ny accent, its mixed. he sounds like a mix between jfk an the shamwow dude. if he's korean he probably comes from cali lol. they should of used that dudes voice for blowtorch or something, it just dont sound right for that character..
granbeetle
04-22-2009, 06:35 PM
i want roadblock to live...his psychotic laughter as he's gunning down cobras makes him live-worthy. Gunghow is cool too and i dotn want either one to go but if i have to choose...its roadblock all the way.
Lol. I agree. I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who liked Roadblocks laughter. It made me think this dude is a little off.
QBERT
04-22-2009, 06:40 PM
dood, you should not put that in the title of the thread. I get on the site...look at topics and see that before I even watched episdoes 7 & 8. thanks a lot.
kneroh
04-22-2009, 06:40 PM
first off he was dying cus the suicide slits in the wrist. 2nd of all he wouldnt of lasted that long in a fight, he would of been gettin a lil delerious by then, all the adrenelin flowing the blood would be pouring.. but wtf he's dead. an they insist on makin a figure of him why?
Ancient Chinese secret.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/6a00d834515db069e200e55035d14d88-1.jpg
Unclassified
04-22-2009, 06:42 PM
Ancient Chinese secret.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kneroh/6a00d834515db069e200e55035d14d88-1.jpg
calgon as in calgon take me away, after seeing this i need calgon to take me away lol.
Gung.Heaux
04-22-2009, 06:43 PM
OH, Im Dead!
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 06:45 PM
it was clear long before we even saw any animation. the writers/animators/whatever said there would be deaths and that no one was safe.
People always say that when they hype a project. Rarely do they mean it....
BayArea49er
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
i think it was alpine and quick kick that the space junk fell on...
tri facta for resolute...
And who da man? Snake Park dats hoo...normal people dont take a sword in the hand like that and not flinch man!
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 07:06 PM
did anybody else notice that they just droped that cover thing from 20 miles up, that was before the pieces fell on them
Warrant Officer Flint
04-22-2009, 07:18 PM
So does anyone think Flint is dead?
C.I.A.D.
04-22-2009, 07:20 PM
Firefly's not on a Resolute Card. He's just a different painted FF.
Duke, Cobra Trooper, CC, Storm Shadow are the only definates.
Don't forget the Resolute comic packs.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 07:21 PM
no he is not dead, he is still commanding from the flagg and when all is said and done he won't even have left the ship to fight, maybe ;-)
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 07:26 PM
So does anyone think Flint is dead?
No. Even if he were up there, the brown things on their back have got to be 'chutes.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 07:28 PM
uh, normally you got to be concious to pull your cord and that was an awfully big piece of stratolight
Master Thespian
04-22-2009, 07:31 PM
uh, normally you got to be concious to pull your cord and that was an awfully big piece of stratolight
They got a few minutes to regain consciousness if they are knocked out since they are falling from 20 miles.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 07:34 PM
did i mention big piece of metal;-)
Greyryder
04-22-2009, 07:35 PM
There are pretty reliable commercially available failsafes these days, that will automatically cut the main chute and deploy the reserve, if you drop to a certain altitude and are still falling too fast. I would imagine that the Joes have a similar system. Plus, at that hight, it takes a loooong time to reach normal parachute altitudes. He could easily have woken up, by then.
I'm more concerned about Roadblock, and Gungho. I like those guys way more than I ever did Flint.
Did anyone else notice that ninjas don't seem to bleed?
Unclassified
04-22-2009, 07:42 PM
There are pretty reliable commercially available failsafes these days, that will automatically cut the main chute and deploy the reserve, if you drop to a certain altitude and are still falling too fast. I would imagine that the Joes have a similar system. Plus, at that hight, it takes a loooong time to reach normal parachute altitudes. He could easily have woken up, by then.
I'm more concerned about Roadblock, and Gungho. I like those guys way more than I ever did Flint.
Did anyone else notice that ninjas don't seem to bleed?
well i know first hand though, razor slices dont bleed right away. but after all the running around an what not, it would be gushin by then, an ss would of be passing out by then. i cant believe he's dead. they should of made it a series then kill him. i feel they are tryin to end the 80's joes as we know it, so they can move on to new stuff. oh well i just want the classics.
DaViper
04-22-2009, 07:53 PM
This is starting to sound like the joe cartoon movie all over again. Everyone is mad that one character(duke) bites it, and hasbro hears the crys and makes it seem like he lives. lol Now with resolute, the big H just says screw'em we got the movie. haha
Awesome episodes I have to admit! I don't think anyone is dead as of right now...yes even stormshadow. Snake-eyes seemed to have hesitated on using the final move to finish off him off. I say he just knocked him out that's all.
Roadblock and Gung-ho might be badly wounded, but I do remember seeing at least roadblock in the trailer looking unscathed and shooting a grenade launcher.
Overall I love resolute and if I'm wrong and everyone dies, this is just the begining of a new joe era!
Jmacq1
04-22-2009, 07:59 PM
By all indications, this was only ever intended to be a "one shot." Not a pilot for a new series, not something that was going to continue beyond this "micro-series."
Thus, they feel safe in killing whoever, because it won't have a long-term impact on the franchise, anyway.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 08:02 PM
Don't forget the Resolute comic packs.
I'm not, but those are Resolute in packaging only. They're not Resolute style figures/designs.
jignacio_2k
04-22-2009, 08:03 PM
OMG, this just confirmed. The two Joes that fell to their death were... Dial-tone and Ripcord. ;)
Wayan..I mean RIPCORD IS DEAD LOL...never saw that one coming. YAY! I mean boohoo.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 08:06 PM
No, it's the original Dial-Tone and Ripcord that are dead. They passed the codenames on.
Mandingo Rex
04-22-2009, 08:07 PM
I don't mind them killing off main dudes, but seriously, in the one-hour promo feature?
What the hell were they thinking, kill off main cast members in the pilot? Way to shoot future installments in the ass. Bazooka's one thing, but SS?
I don't care if you're a badass ninja, if you take an entire blade to the palm of your hand, you're not doing shit with that arm again anytime soon.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 08:08 PM
this is not a pilot it is a one shot
Griff
04-22-2009, 08:11 PM
I don't mind them killing off main dudes, but seriously, in the one-hour promo feature?
What the hell were they thinking, kill off main cast members in the pilot? Way to shoot future installments in the ass. Bazooka's one thing, but SS?
I don't care if you're a badass ninja, if you take an entire blade to the palm of your hand, you're not doing shit with that arm again anytime soon.
Hope he's a lefty cause those lonely nights might have just gotten lonlier with scarlett all up on dukes jock now. lol
Jmacq1
04-22-2009, 08:11 PM
this is not a pilot it is a one shot
What he (and others) said.
This is not a pilot for a new series. This is essentially a one-shot "special event."
Or the equivalent of a "straight to DVD movie" like the Spy Troops and Valor Vs. Venom movies, only cooler.
Troynos
04-22-2009, 08:11 PM
this is not a pilot it is a one shot
Yeah, but people are worried that if they do decide to make it a series, then what happens to the story potential if those main characters are dead.
Here's the answer:
NOTHING!!
Nothing happens. They just write stories that don't have those characters in them. So there won't be a SE/SS duel every other episode. Oh well. They'll have to find something else to write about. I'm sure there's plenty of things they can find that will have us salivating for more Resolute every week.
Have some faith. G.I. Joe is more then just any single character. It can survive the death of any character.
thealleyviper
04-22-2009, 08:14 PM
Well, the way I see it.......The oh-so-awesome trailer revealed at ComicCon last year showed Roadie and Duke pinned down and SE coming to flank some support. I don't think they're dead.
Mandingo Rex
04-22-2009, 08:14 PM
this is not a pilot it is a one shot
Excuse me, expert, but it's a pilot if it potentially gets picked up anytime in the future for a serial version of the movie. Which they should keep as a possibility if it does well. If it doesn't go beyond that, then it's just an hour-long GI Joe movie.
Television pilot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_pilot)
Plenty of shows started out as mini-series and were later picked up for full series. Fuck, even the original GI Joe cartoon was a mini-series "one-off" that was picked up for full seasons.
WonderingMule
04-22-2009, 08:15 PM
they said it was a one shot
firefly069
04-22-2009, 08:16 PM
This is only a one shot deal if hasbro feels they can't make enough money to justify putting out more resolute in the future.
As for SS, as I mentioned in another thread...until I see a knife through his heart, a la major bludd, and blood seeping out of his body he might not be dead. This is a cartoon hasbro will bring back those they seem fit, if it suits their needs.
Remember hasbro makes more SE's CC's SS's dukes and Destro's than any other figure. I would think that these 5 will survive. All bets are off on everyone else.
Mandingo Rex
04-22-2009, 08:22 PM
Regardless of "one off" or "pilot" (it's the same thing if it's not successful enough to warrant an eventual series), I don't see the story going much of anywhere, as much as I like how they're handling characters.
That whole SE/SS storyline so far seems to be just to showcase SS and SE fighting against each other. Anyone else not really impressed with the story so far? We're over halfway there, and it feels like a bunch of disjointed stories so far. The 5-minute installments create hiccups for me.
All of the fatalities so far haven't been for anything worth seeing, other than them just "killing someone cause they said they would". Bazooka, Bludd and SS so far have been empty deaths. If they're going to kill someone, either make them more second-or-third-tier like Bazooka, or make their deaths matter to the story, instead of just killing guys for the hell of it.
It's like X3, they just said, "ah, the hell with it, it's the "last movie" right? Let's just off people."
Troynos
04-22-2009, 08:23 PM
Well, the way I see it.......The oh-so-awesome trailer revealed at ComicCon last year showed Roadie and Duke pinned down and SE coming to flank some support. I don't think they're dead.
The SDCC thing was a test "episode" to show off the style of the show for the fans. A teaser if you will. It has no bearing on the plot of the actual Resolute show.
This has been mentioned numerous times in alot of threads the last couple of days and by Hasbro.
As for Storm Shadow. He's dead. I hope he stays dead. But if for some reason they bring him back, it's not that hard to explain.
He's a ninja. We all know that ninjas can come back from the dead. Maybe the araishakage ninjas resurrect him or something, but doesn't matter, he comes back.
And that sets up his road to redemption (again, I don't want it to happen, but it's easy enough to figure out how it can work). He's been dead. He was killed because of his own greed and jealousy, he killed his uncle and others (poor Bazooka) because of it. So he's ressurected and his time in death has made him see the errors of his ways. He knows what he did was wrong and now seeks to atone for it.
There ya go. How SS becomes a good guy.
And I hope it doesn't happen.
Fast_Draw
04-22-2009, 09:05 PM
Regardless of "one off" or "pilot" (it's the same thing if it's not successful enough to warrant an eventual series)
in addition to it being a one time shot, they said it was a complete story with a resolution. of course, if Hasbro wanted they could make a series out of it, but that wasn't the plan. they said all the long that it was a one shot deal for the fans type of thing. it was never intended to be a series. if they make it a series, I would guess they'd pick up wherever it leaves off or start over completely as if this was a stand-alone, alternate universe/storyline arc.
they said there would be deaths. they said no one was safe. the teaser seemed like something just to demonstrate what it would look like. I doubt it is from this show. there is about 20 minutes left and they haven't mentioned anything about a jungle being involved (the setting for the teaser).
take2todd
04-22-2009, 09:07 PM
nice use of spoiler headline. geez
Jmacq1
04-22-2009, 09:10 PM
Regardless of "one off" or "pilot" (it's the same thing if it's not successful enough to warrant an eventual series), I don't see the story going much of anywhere, as much as I like how they're handling characters.
That whole SE/SS storyline so far seems to be just to showcase SS and SE fighting against each other. Anyone else not really impressed with the story so far? We're over halfway there, and it feels like a bunch of disjointed stories so far. The 5-minute installments create hiccups for me.
All of the fatalities so far haven't been for anything worth seeing, other than them just "killing someone cause they said they would". Bazooka, Bludd and SS so far have been empty deaths. If they're going to kill someone, either make them more second-or-third-tier like Bazooka, or make their deaths matter to the story, instead of just killing guys for the hell of it.
It's like X3, they just said, "ah, the hell with it, it's the "last movie" right? Let's just off people."
Ahhh, everything is proceeding (almost) exactly as I have forseen....
I've been saying for months that some of the fans who were complaining about the movie but hot-to-trot for Resolute were going to start turning on Resolute once the body count started to tally up and they realized it wasn't "their" G.I. Joe either.
shlappyguy
04-22-2009, 09:27 PM
Yeah, weak spoiler headline. Can a mod change this? Why the heck else would a spoiler read "poor Gung-Ho and Roadblock"?
DaViper
04-22-2009, 09:35 PM
Ahhh, everything is proceeding (almost) exactly as I have forseen....
Emperor Palpatine?!?
MikeyT
04-22-2009, 09:39 PM
At this rate....no one is going to be left.
COBRACOLLECTOR
04-22-2009, 09:44 PM
R.I.P shout out to my boy Storm Shadow
we gonna have to get Rest In peace Tats 4 stormy lol
Mandingo Rex
04-22-2009, 09:45 PM
Ahhh, everything is proceeding (almost) exactly as I have forseen....
I've been saying for months that some of the fans who were complaining about the movie but hot-to-trot for Resolute were going to start turning on Resolute once the body count started to tally up and they realized it wasn't "their" G.I. Joe either.
Oh look, Jmacq1 is right again! Jmacq1: 1 billion, everyone else: 0.
Thanks for quoting me, but I've not been all gung-ho for Resolute all along. I was more excited for Resolute versus the movie, yes, but I wasn't expecting the Resolute story to be the ol' stories I was used to. The character designs feel more familiar, which is why I liked them. The story looked more promising, but it's not lived up to the hype.
I did expect them to be smart about core characters and save them in case it ever expanded to anything more, like a series eventually. But the story telling so far isn't really impressing me. Why did Bazooka or Bludd die? Storm Shadow? Was there a reason in the story? Not yet revealed, more or less just to have someone die. Just to kill off characters doesn't take any balls, it just shows that they're trigger happy when they should be paying more attention to the story being penned.
Griff
04-22-2009, 09:54 PM
Oh look, Jmacq1 is right again! Jmacq1: 1 billion, everyone else: 0.
Thanks for quoting me, but I've not been all gung-ho for Resolute all along. I was more excited for Resolute versus the movie, yes, but I wasn't expecting the Resolute story to be the ol' stories I was used to. The character designs feel more familiar, which is why I liked them. The story looked more promising, but it's not lived up to the hype.
I did expect them to be smart about core characters and save them in case it ever expanded to anything more, like a series eventually. But the story telling so far isn't really impressing me. Why did Bazooka or Bludd die? Storm Shadow? Was there a reason in the story? Not yet revealed, more or less just to have someone die. Just to kill off characters doesn't take any balls, it just shows that they're trigger happy when they should be paying more attention to the story being penned.
But this way they can replace the charcaters with new people but use old code-names.. :(
Was the Promo Trailer (SDCC Footage) just made for that? I mean, RB didn't know SE, and I think they made it just to throw in the catch prase.
I don't think they were killed.
botticus
04-22-2009, 10:05 PM
Deaths aside, what the hell was with Roadblock gleefully mowing down Cobra troopers with a machine gun to their back? If that's his characterization in Resolute, better he be killed off.
hurricane
04-22-2009, 10:07 PM
nice title, the spoiler really helped
(sarcasm)
Griff
04-22-2009, 10:08 PM
hey in RB's defense i'd be smiling gleefully too if i had a huge as cannon and was mowing down hapless terrorists :) wouldnt everyone? :)
Gungho-joe
04-22-2009, 10:10 PM
hey in RB's defense i'd be smiling gleefully too if i had a huge as cannon and was mowing down hapless terrorists :) wouldnt everyone? :)
I would be pissing my pants laughing if I got to take out a slew of terrorists.
firefly069
04-22-2009, 10:15 PM
Deaths aside, what the hell was with Roadblock gleefully mowing down Cobra troopers with a machine gun to their back? If that's his characterization in Resolute, better he be killed off.
LOL! Poor roadblock!
Unclassified
04-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Was the Promo Trailer (SDCC Footage) just made for that? I mean, RB didn't know SE, and I think they made it just to throw in the catch prase.
I don't think they were killed.
bro i asked myself the same shit when i watched the first episode . wtf is that all bout bro..
Devil King
04-22-2009, 10:24 PM
but i dont know man. i'm kinda not liking this. kill off the characters an then there is no cartoon.
Maybe they'll pull a George Lucas and crap out a peanut encrusted, bowl-clogging prequel series in which we have no emotional connection to a single character because we already know how they all die.
Syn3sthesia
04-22-2009, 10:26 PM
Gung-ho was standing behind Roadblock so...
GI abe444
04-22-2009, 10:27 PM
I dont know what to believe in Resolute anymore lol.
Sunbow_Joe84
04-22-2009, 10:29 PM
roadblock is heavily armored so he might be alive and extremely injured. gung ho might have bought the farm. as far as RB laughing he could be experiencing combat high.
Barefoot Jedi
04-22-2009, 11:07 PM
I think either Roadblock or Gung Ho is still alive but wounded, or maybe they both are still alive and wounded.
I do think, though, that one or both WILL die, along with Destro and the Baroness. Get ready to cry, fanboys. That bitch's hours are numbered.
ninjapleazee
04-22-2009, 11:09 PM
wow.. intense!
Booga
04-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Cool! Can someone also tell me what happened at the end of Wolverine Origins too! Oh yeah, i forgot, there was already a thread about that.
Goin' Commando
04-22-2009, 11:20 PM
[QUOTE=Zefram;691091]Shouldn't all this crap be in the resolute section, with A SPOILER WARNING?!
Some of us are waiting for Friday!
I agree, even though Im not waiting for Friday. I couldn't wait, and couldn't avoid the 'tank for a week, so Im watching online.
I have a question for the guy who started this thread.
Why would you title the thread *SPOILER*, then reveal the spoiler in the title? Didn't think that one through, did ya?
sharky
04-22-2009, 11:21 PM
It almost seems as if they are trying to kill off the major players from the sunbow series.
Major players? With the exception of SS, it looks to me like they're killing off the peg warmers. I'm just expecting Wild Bill to get the ax real soon. LOL! I just hope they don't pull a "Optimus Prime/Transformers the Movie" and kill off Duke or something. Perhaps they are just making way for a new wave of characters which actually was the line of thinking during Transformers the Movie.
Barefoot Jedi
04-22-2009, 11:31 PM
Major players? With the exception of SS, it looks to me like they're killing off the peg warmers. I'm just expecting Wild Bill to get the ax real soon. LOL! I just hope they don't pull a "Optimus Prime/Transformers the Movie" and kill off Duke or something. Perhaps they are just making way for a new wave of characters which actually was the line of thinking during Transformers the Movie.
That's possible. I don't think so, but it is possible.
I think this'll be a one-shot deal. Then the movie will come out, and based on how the movie does, we'll get another cartoon series that is for children based loosely on the movie.
I can see the possibility of Resolute prequels or other one-shot movies, but it looks like they're going to wind things up very neatly at the end of this one.
I'm choosing to look at it as a climax to the Sunbow series.
WVMojo
04-22-2009, 11:59 PM
if anything comes from this one time shot Resolute arc, it'll be a cartoon by ellis and crew with the storyine from ROC but geared a little closer for kids...Hasbro isnt about to dilute the gi joe story after a multi million dollar movie is hitting the streets, potentially bringing in a new generation of fans...Hasbro will want to build upon the characters and story from the movie so the kiddies know who the characters are....
that is my best guess as to the future....
I don't need swords to kill you....I'll kill you with my hand!!!
rikkuluverx2
04-23-2009, 12:17 AM
i think that theres no freakin' way they died -_-;
-rikkuluverx2
yourfacehere
04-23-2009, 12:26 AM
I'm hoping Firefly doesn't show up again.
Then he won't die.
^ Agree^
one from my childhood Fav's has to survive...
Dirtbag
04-23-2009, 12:34 AM
Roadblock is alive watch the trailer on Gijoeresolute.com He appears in 2 scenes with with Gung Ho's weapon. Either Gung Ho is wounded or dead.
As for Roadblock laughing while killing Cobra Troops. People tend to forget about the 10 million Cobra killed in Russia. I don't know about you but after something like that happening if I was a trooper the first thing I'll be thinking is how to get back at them.
Cobra is scum in this series they are ruthless and just pure fuckin evil so I personally do not feel sympathy for the troops.
I thought that was badass and freaking awesome that they have Roadblack as this big scary monster how he should be. Hardcore soldiers aren't meant to be lovable. This Gijoe team in Resolute they know how to get their hands dirty and the love it too. Regardless of what happens this is my favorite representation of Gijoe.
As for characters dying. Stormy is dead and I hope he stays dead. Why cause in real life people die and never come back. That's why so far I been enjoying this series so much. It feels how used to play with my joes when I was a kid. Almost everyone died. They were at war.
Hell that was the fun of it to me. Who will I kill on my next epic battle, I wish I could still play with my toys and not feel like weirdo.
Good Eye!
and yet another childhood favorite has apparently bit the dust.... :(
Love this shit tho :) :) :)
yourfacehere
04-23-2009, 12:48 AM
I don't care if they die but I was expecting more from Bludd and storm shadow.
I hated Bludd but he was a nut job. I thought he'd blow himself up or something. Especially with that grenade suit he has.
As for Storm I thought he'd defect and kill himself defending snake.
Dirtbag
04-23-2009, 12:54 AM
I don't care if they die but I was expecting more from Bludd and storm shadow.
I hated Bludd but he was a nut job. I thought he'd blow himself up or something. Especially with that grenade suit he has.
As for Storm I thought he'd defect and kill himself defending snake.
I seriously think Storm Shadow sacrificing himself for Snake Eyes would be very cliche.
I always wanted to see Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes fight to the death I'm glad I have at least one series that did it.
SnakeEyes
04-23-2009, 01:36 AM
As for Storm I thought he'd defect and kill himself defending snake.
I think that would make for a good story, but it's an awful lot of plot and background development for a 60minute mini-movie.
Griff
04-23-2009, 01:39 AM
Im sad the havent shown Falcon but at the same token im glad cause that means he, and dusty and flash and mainframe and jinx are all safe. Thank the gods for small favors.
GI Kiwi
04-23-2009, 01:48 AM
Yeah, we need Dusty to be safe!
CTGLinks
04-23-2009, 02:19 AM
it seems to me "Resolute" is Hasbro's way of Killing off the "old" and bringing in the "new" with the movie.
It's somewhat insulting to me as a GI Joe fan, and Hasbro should be ashamed...very ashamed. By killing off our heroes it seems that once again, Hasbro is turning their backs on those who have supported the line since 1982. CRAZY SH*T
VIPER 48
04-23-2009, 02:23 AM
I don't think they died. I think they will be there when the smoke clears. But Stormy, i didn't see that coming...
SMARTASS8
04-23-2009, 02:25 AM
it seems to me "Resolute" is Hasbro's way of Killing off the "old" and bringing in the "new" with the movie.
It's somewhat insulting to me as a GI Joe fan, and Hasbro should be ashamed...very ashamed. By killing off our heroes it seems that once again, Hasbro is turning their backs on those who have supported the line since 1982. CRAZY SH*T
They never learn. They did a similar mass killing in the 1986 Transformers movie and angered fans enough that they let Duke survive in the G.I. Joe movie even though he originally died(the movie also ended up going direct-to-video as well). Is Resolute a one time thing or is this a glorified pilot for a new TV show? It is good quality wise, but it really sucks with all the death if it's the beginning of a new cartoon.
SMARTASS8
04-23-2009, 02:34 AM
well i know first hand though, razor slices dont bleed right away. but after all the running around an what not, it would be gushin by then, an ss would of be passing out by then. i cant believe he's dead. they should of made it a series then kill him. i feel they are tryin to end the 80's joes as we know it, so they can move on to new stuff. oh well i just want the classics.
Maybe Storm Shadow will come back as a part of Serpentor?:)
I can dream can't I?
Dirtbag
04-23-2009, 02:38 AM
it seems to me "Resolute" is Hasbro's way of Killing off the "old" and bringing in the "new" with the movie.
It's somewhat insulting to me as a GI Joe fan, and Hasbro should be ashamed...very ashamed. By killing off our heroes it seems that once again, Hasbro is turning their backs on those who have supported the line since 1982. CRAZY SH*T
I bet that's exactly what old school Adventure Team 12' inch Gijoe Fans said when they saw little plastic figures bear the name gijoe.
SMARTASS8
04-23-2009, 02:46 AM
I bet that's exactly what old school Adventure Team 12' inch Gijoe Fans said when they saw little plastic figures bear the name gijoe.
I was about to say the 12" fans had enough time to adjust between their line's end and A Real American Hero's beginning, but I then realized I had 3 times as long as they did. God, do I feel old!!
Master Thespian
04-23-2009, 06:26 AM
Im sad the havent shown Falcon but at the same token im glad cause that means he, and dusty and flash and mainframe and jinx are all safe. Thank the gods for small favors.
Everyone else was killed prior to Resolute. That's why the team is so small now, lol.
PS: Mainframe was an Indian woman.
Jmacq1
04-23-2009, 06:38 AM
Oh look, Jmacq1 is right again! Jmacq1: 1 billion, everyone else: 0.
Thanks for quoting me, but I've not been all gung-ho for Resolute all along. I was more excited for Resolute versus the movie, yes, but I wasn't expecting the Resolute story to be the ol' stories I was used to. The character designs feel more familiar, which is why I liked them. The story looked more promising, but it's not lived up to the hype.
I did expect them to be smart about core characters and save them in case it ever expanded to anything more, like a series eventually. But the story telling so far isn't really impressing me. Why did Bazooka or Bludd die? Storm Shadow? Was there a reason in the story? Not yet revealed, more or less just to have someone die. Just to kill off characters doesn't take any balls, it just shows that they're trigger happy when they should be paying more attention to the story being penned.
Oh look! Mandingo Rex still thinks he qualifies as "everyone else." Glad you're keeping score though, I really wasn't paying that much attention.
People die in war, and when people fight each other with swords and such. This cartoon just happens to reflect that. Maybe the "story" reason is...oh, I dunno, because this wasn't really intended to be the pilot of an ongoing series?
I know you refuse to accept it, but it really has all the trappings of a one-shot affair, and with a midnight timeslot on a Friday night (for the "complete" series), it wasn't exactly going to pull in record-breaking numbers for the Cartoon Network. Hasbro and CN buried it, because they never really intended for it to be an ongoing series to begin with.
As others have noted, it's far, far, FAR more likely that we'll end up with a more "kid-oriented" cartoon in the wake of the movie, to try to capitalize on whatever audience it might bring in.
gunslingercbr
04-23-2009, 10:23 AM
I hope they are dead, it's what makes Resolute a cool cartoon. this isn't Hasbro's way of killing off old characters to replace them with new ones, if so, they wouldn't have killed Storm Shadow. that alone should reveal that this is a one shot deal, its own independent universe, and you guys are over-thinking it.
face value, people. sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one.
Unclassified
04-23-2009, 10:35 AM
I was about to say the 12" fans had enough time to adjust between their line's end and A Real American Hero's beginning, but I then realized I had 3 times as long as they did. God, do I feel old!!
yeah but the 12'' never stopped being made, never had true characters like our joes, that's a different ball game comparing 12''s to 3 3/4's. the 12's were never an never will be as popular as our joes man. they are popular .. yes.. but not like our gi joe. i think the 12'' are really sweet figures actually. the clothing an gear. it dont get no better then that. but they never had true identities like our joes. so when they change what we know it sucks. im not up for change lol..
Troynos
04-23-2009, 10:38 AM
The death of Storm Shadow has no relation on whether Resolute can continue as a series or not.
I don't understand that thinking. "OMG, they're killing off core characters, that means there can't be a series."
Why not? What's a good and valid reason why not?
It's not trigger happy to kill off Storm Shadow. It was a DUEL TO THE DEATH!! That means, someone had to die. It would have been hack writing to allow Storm Shadow to escape.
OMG, they're going to need to tell new stories now. Oh god.. that means we won't have to see SE/SS part 80. What are we to do?
Just because core characters are dying doesn't meant they're turning their back on the fans of the '80s. They are saying, it's time to bring Joe to the present and be more realistic, tell new stories with the characters.
It's a new era. We've already seen the stories we needed to/could have with the 80s continuity. We've seen the resolution of the SS/SE story. So would it still be as good played out across the new background of Resolute? Why not give a chance for new stories to develop.
I for one hope there is a new series continued after this, based on what goes on in Resolute. I hope Duke dies and a new series starts up just so it can be proven that Joe stories don't need SE/SS and Duke to exist and to be good.
Roadblock dies, it lets Repeater step up and start stories about him. Could be worse then any potential Roadblock stories, could be better. We don't know and to keep thinking that the stories have to be confined to what we expect and have seen before.. that's a good way to let Joe stagnant and die.
Think outside the box. Can still tell good stories using threads or full ideas from the 80s along with new stuff.
Unclassified
04-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Maybe they'll pull a George Lucas and crap out a peanut encrusted, bowl-clogging prequel series in which we have no emotional connection to a single character because we already know how they all die.
perhaps dk
gunslingercbr
04-23-2009, 10:59 AM
The death of Storm Shadow has no relation on whether Resolute can continue as a series or not.
do you honestly think Hasbro would kill off Storm Shadow and eliminate him altogether when he is clearly one of the core characters they believe creates appeal for the brand and drives its interest? of course they wouldn't, so killing him off clearly indicates whether Resolute is a continuing series (not that it can't be -- big difference between the two. they could kill off every single character and populate the new Resolute cartoon with Sgt. Savage and Barrel Roll if they wanted to, that doesn't mean if they did kill off every character that that is Hasbro's intention).
or they can bring Storm Shadow back to life. again, that's not the point. the point is that if he really is dead, and dead for good in the Resolute universe, it is more likely Resolute is a stand alone short story and not an ongoing series.
that's also not to say that Hasbro isn't killing off some characters as a last hurrah for them (at least maybe for the short term) and will carry forward their deaths in later series (even if it is not mentioned and the characters are simply absent).
Troynos
04-23-2009, 11:09 AM
Never said it wouldn't be risky.
But what better way to say "this is a new era" then killing off some of the most connected characters to the old era?
Unclassified
04-23-2009, 11:14 AM
yeah i think we dont know what to expect.. the way things are lookin though it is a one shot deal, but i was lookin forward to seeing a joe cartoon that i grew up on all grown up.. if i was hasbro, i would'a first instinct to turn this into a series, not some movie that has core characters die. it's like batman killing joker in a movie! why? if you kill him off then there will never be another battle of the two. we would have to move to the next character, an then eventually we run out of bad guys cus batman killed em all. an the story dies. if everyone lives then it becomes a epic tale , that's the way it should be. if i were to kill off characters i would at least wait till it became a series then off ppl maybe. but im not into characters gettin killed, just no name troopers an greenshirts. i would like to see characters walk off wit' some battle wounds an fight another epic battle some other day so the story continues.. jus' my 2C(
Troynos
04-23-2009, 11:16 AM
Also, just because Storm Shadow is dead in Resolute doesn't mean anything for Hasbro and the production of the toys.
He's still alive in the comics, still alive in the Modern Era line, still alive in the movie and so on...
Plenty of oppotunity for Storm Shadow figures.
We're even (probably) getting a Resolute Storm Shadow figure and he's dead in the show.
Troynos
04-23-2009, 11:17 AM
If it ever becomes a series, deaths won't be a regular basis. Could go a whole season without someone dying.
It's the thought that they could possible die that creates the impression and the "fear".
Unclassified
04-23-2009, 11:25 AM
We're even (probably) getting a Resolute Storm Shadow figure and he's dead in the show.
yeah an that makes no sense to me, make a character that we killed. oh well like you said though. it's truly aint the death of ss, he will appear elsewhere. it just sucked to see that happen so fast that's all.
gunslingercbr
04-23-2009, 11:41 AM
Never said it wouldn't be risky.
But what better way to say "this is a new era" then killing off some of the most connected characters to the old era?
I don't think Hasbro is trying to make any statement about a new era. they are simply utilizing what is popular with the brand and has driven that popularity in combination with new ideas. Resolute has no bigger statement. as the cartoons in the past, it is nothing more than a commercial for the toys -- by that I mean G.I. Joe toys in general.
Also, just because Storm Shadow is dead in Resolute doesn't mean anything for Hasbro and the production of the toys.
nobody is saying they can't. but what is more likely? Hasbro simply isn't going to eliminate one of the key characters of the brands popularity from arguably its potentially largest media tie-in (an on-going, continuous series) other than the movie.
CTGLinks
04-23-2009, 12:41 PM
I bet that's exactly what old school Adventure Team 12' inch Gijoe Fans said when they saw little plastic figures bear the name gijoe.
yeah - but old school 12 Inch GI Joe fans (which I was) were stabbed in the back - Hasbro did kill that line. Oh, they have tried bringing them back, but it just doesn't work.
ARAH characters don't count because they tie in to the 3.75 inch line, and they still do not sell as well.
Master Thespian
04-23-2009, 12:46 PM
If it ever becomes a series, deaths won't be a regular basis. Could go a whole season without someone dying.
It's the thought that they could possible die that creates the impression and the "fear".
Quoted for MFing Truth.
KindredMac
04-23-2009, 12:51 PM
Come on everybody...
The fact that SS is dead is actually a good thing. This could be a tip of the hat to the comic book series in which SS is killed by the Baroness just to come back when Serpentor is being created.
There have been nods to the 80s series when CC states that he acted like a sniveling weakling but we don't know how much is actually tied back to that time line.
I think Resolute has been a fantastic series so far and would be über pleased if they starting creating twelve to twenty four 30 minute episodes for an entire season.
Troynos
04-23-2009, 12:58 PM
I already said in a couple of threads how SS could easily come back and begin his "road to redemption" that people seem to think he needs.
I hope it doesn't happen but the possibility is there.
gunslingercbr
04-23-2009, 01:11 PM
I already said in a couple of threads how SS could easily come back and begin his "road to redemption" that people seem to think he needs.
I hope it doesn't happen but the possibility is there.
road to redemption is the only thing worse than his two dimensional jealousy fueled motivation.
Mandingo Rex
04-23-2009, 01:12 PM
I know you refuse to accept it, but it really has all the trappings of a one-shot affair...Hasbro and CN buried it, because they never really intended for it to be an ongoing series to begin with.
As others have noted, it's far, far, FAR more likely that we'll end up with a more "kid-oriented" cartoon in the wake of the movie, to try to capitalize on whatever audience it might bring in.
I whole-heartedly expect to see a kid-oriented cartoon in the wake of the movie. I don't see why it can't be in Resolute-styling though, utilizing their designs and even their settings. That's a lot of work to go nowhere, if you ask me. I seriously can't believe that they've spent the time and effort for a throw-away one-hour show, without potentially leaving room for expansion later. I'm not EXPECTING a fucking continuation, I'm just saying I can't believe they don't have the foresight to even consider it. Instead, they've painted themselves into a corner from what I've seen so far, which I think is not wise.
To be honest, due to all the unknowns and secrecy behind it, I half expected Resolute to be shelved—as far as sticking to what we were shown at SDCC—and for it to be retrofitted into the kid-focused version to coincide with the film's launch and eventual trails.
If kids get a cartoon, I'm afraid it will be chock full of goofy Teen-Titan designs that seem to be popular recently, with completely empty stories and gimmick scenarios. Glossy, but no substance. I don't know why they can't make realistic-looking cartoon characters for kids, like they've done with Resolute. Kids aren't stuck in their toddler years forever, I don't get why they keep doing bubble-gum designs for everything like TF:Animated. I doubt they're going to try something completely new... I expect them to go back to the 80s line for source material because it worked, unlike recent attempts at rebooting the Joe cartoons.
I think the story will be a somewhat hybrid of the 80s stuff and the movie (and let's face it, as much as I hate what I've seen of the movie, they're basing it off the 80s line to begin with), and who knows what the designs will look like.
Troynos
04-23-2009, 01:15 PM
road to redemption is the only thing worse than his two dimensional jealousy fueled motivation.
I agree completely. But it's what people seem to want to happen. They can't get their minds "out of the box" and think that it's possible for SS to just be a complete prick.
It's pretty obvious that the SE/SS feud was put into Resolute just so it could be there because people expected it to be there (kind of like in RoC). So the "easiest" origin to do with the time alloted was what they did. There was no time to do the whole Marvel origin with Zartan and Firefly and still have the plotline come to a conclusion.
gunslingercbr
04-23-2009, 01:23 PM
I agree completely. But it's what people seem to want to happen. They can't get their minds "out of the box" and think that it's possible for SS to just be a complete prick.
It's pretty obvious that the SE/SS feud was put into Resolute just so it could be there because people expected it to be there (kind of like in RoC). So the "easiest" origin to do with the time alloted was what they did. There was no time to do the whole Marvel origin with Zartan and Firefly and still have the plotline come to a conclusion.
I think it could have worked better had Storm Shadow been given even the least bit of depth. not just angry that he isn't being taught the technique, but actually betrayed by his uncle and emotionally hurt by it. that could have been done in just as little time, and given the character depth. as it stands, he is just silly and the sooner he died the better. he just isn't an interesting character in Resolute IMO.
I don't mind the jealousy aspect, or the simplified anger aspect. I prefer Storm Shadow as a straight bad guy, just executed a bit better.
Jmacq1
04-23-2009, 01:24 PM
I whole-heartedly expect to see a kid-oriented cartoon in the wake of the movie. I don't see why it can't be in Resolute-styling though, utilizing their designs and even their settings. That's a lot of work to go nowhere, if you ask me. I seriously can't believe that they've spent the time and effort for a throw-away one-hour show, without potentially leaving room for expansion later. I'm not EXPECTING a fucking continuation, I'm just saying I can't believe they don't have the foresight to even consider it. Instead, they've painted themselves into a corner from what I've seen so far, which I think is not wise.
Except a kid-oriented Resolute-style cartoon could be started from scratch, since this current incarnation isn't "for kids" and thus Hasbro's mentality will be that most of them haven't seen it. It'd be the same look...different universe/timeline. I think that kind of idea would be cool (I have much love for the animation studio that did Resolute). I think folks would be smart enough to understand it's not the same thing. Particularly if they titled it differently. Maybe they considered a continuation at some point, but once they saw the story they realized it wouldn't be feasible? Particularly if they really liked the story and didn't want to start issuing editorial mandates to "stop all the killing!"
To be honest, due to all the unknowns and secrecy behind it, I half expected Resolute to be shelved—as far as sticking to what we were shown at SDCC—and for it to be retrofitted into the kid-focused version to coincide with the film's launch and eventual trails.
I too was beginning to suspect that Resolute was either never going to happen or end up being something completely different. The whole handling of this thing has been odd, to say the least.
If kids get a cartoon, I'm afraid it will be chock full of goofy Teen-Titan designs that seem to be popular recently, with completely empty stories and gimmick scenarios. Glossy, but no substance. I don't know why they can't make realistic-looking cartoon characters for kids, like they've done with Resolute. Kids aren't stuck in their toddler years forever, I don't get why they keep doing bubble-gum designs for everything like TF:Animated. I doubt they're going to try something completely new... I expect them to go back to the 80s line for source material because it worked, unlike recent attempts at rebooting the Joe cartoons.
I think the story will be a somewhat hybrid of the 80s stuff and the movie (and let's face it, as much as I hate what I've seen of the movie, they're basing it off the 80s line to begin with), and who knows what the designs will look like.
I would hope for a more realistic look as well. Don't know that we'd get it, but we can hope. About the only plus that I can see is that Hasbro has spent enough money on the "25th Bodystyle" that I think they might lean towards a slightly more "realistic" toon just because that would fit better with their current construction techniques. Plus...if you keep the Resolute look/style, it gives Hasbro an excuse to use those molds they've already cast (if there aren't plans to do so already). G.I. Joe would have to reach HUGE levels of popularity this summer for Hasbro to have enough confidence to do both "realistic" and "animated style" lines. (Or maybe not...they're doing X-Men Origins: Wolverine and "Wolverine and the X-Men" lines at the same time....)
It's possible to make a "kid friendly" toon that isn't completely brainless or toothless. It's a delicate balancing act, but it can be done. The studio that animated Resolute pulled it off fairly well with "Avatar: The Last Airbender." I would hope they could stick around and be given the opportunity to do the same thing again with G.I. Joe.
Mandingo Rex
04-23-2009, 01:45 PM
...
Could we have future rebuttals like this, instead of being so antagonistic with each other?
All valid points, btw.
I think it could have worked better had Storm Shadow been given even the least bit of depth. not just angry that he isn't being taught the technique, but actually betrayed by his uncle and emotionally hurt by it. that could have been done in just as little time, and given the character depth. as it stands, he is just silly and the sooner he died the better. he just isn't an interesting character in Resolute IMO.
I don't mind the jealousy aspect, or the simplified anger aspect. I prefer Storm Shadow as a straight bad guy, just executed a bit better.
The motivation was something a child might reason. Storm Shadow was so flat, that he came off as mentally challenged as far as his depth or reasoning or motivation against Snake Eyes. Sort of a "Storm Shadow SMASH!" rage, versus anything that could be taken seriously.
Jmacq1
04-23-2009, 01:50 PM
Could we have future rebuttals like this, instead of being so antagonistic with each other?
All valid points, btw.
I disagree! You're completely wrong and this is wh-....
Er...wait, that doesn't make any sense.
I'll try to tone down the rhetoric, but I can't make many promises beyond that.
Dirtbag
04-23-2009, 02:04 PM
yeah but the 12'' never stopped being made, never had true characters like our joes, that's a different ball game comparing 12''s to 3 3/4's. the 12's were never an never will be as popular as our joes man. they are popular .. yes.. but not like our gi joe. i think the 12'' are really sweet figures actually. the clothing an gear. it dont get no better then that. but they never had true identities like our joes. so when they change what we know it sucks. im not up for change lol..
I'm sorry to say this 12 inch figures were cancelled and fans of those didn't get any new figures until Hall of Fame revival in 1992.
What a true character than Joseph Colton the original Gijoe. I know what you mean because they were nameless characters but I always thought that was made them cool.
SMARTASS8
04-23-2009, 02:06 PM
yeah but the 12'' never stopped being made, never had true characters like our joes, that's a different ball game comparing 12''s to 3 3/4's. the 12's were never an never will be as popular as our joes man. they are popular .. yes.. but not like our gi joe. i think the 12'' are really sweet figures actually. the clothing an gear. it dont get no better then that. but they never had true identities like our joes. so when they change what we know it sucks. im not up for change lol..
If I grew up in the 60's/70's, I probably wouldn't have liked the 12" Joes. I'd have been too lazy to "dress" the figures every time I wanted a change. I don't know how little girls do it when it comes to Barbie/Bratz?
Fierce Krypton
04-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Shouldn't all this crap be in the resolute section, with A SPOILER WARNING?!
Some of us are waiting for Friday!
Seriously people. Save the spoilers for your cars.
http://sg.88db.com/sg/HTML/en-us/indexmkt/Lifestyle/images/car_spoiler.gif
I wasnt going to watch Resolute and then the first day it came out the Tank had a big "KIA Maj Bludd" tribute on the front page... I knew I could either not visit the tank for a week or watch them as they came out, clearly I chose option number 2.
I don't know about the rest of you?? If my uncle that I had been training with from practically birth! decided not to teach me his most prized/secret technique.... I'd be bitter.. ;)
Worked for me. I was more pissed about SS still being able to talk after receiving the 7th step directly to the head!
BigFore
04-23-2009, 02:23 PM
Well Snake Eyes can't...so somebody had to say it.
I'm just sayin.
Well Snake Eyes can't...so somebody had to say it.
I'm just sayin.
Idk if SS were to say nothing after....." Hee didn't"....(with shaky almost in tears look in his eyes) I would have been fine with that! Too me there was enough emotion in that One look right before the flash back. Then in every word he muttered after.
Just MO
BigFore
04-23-2009, 02:34 PM
I totally agree. I was just having fun.
KingCobra
04-23-2009, 03:27 PM
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