Fave / Least Fave thing in the IDW GI Joe through # 4

[Viper46]

sorry if this is a re-hash...i haven't seen it.

just wondering where people stand on it.

[Gamble]

IDW needs help on this series. I don't think it's going to be sticking around for long.

[Griff]

IDW Proves that they were the not a good choice to get this title. Give it back to marvel or better yet IMAGE. Image was the best since marvels run. Keep these indie companies away from major titles..they just dont seem to handle them well.

[nerdsgetchicks]

IDW Proves that they were the not a good choice to get this title. Give it back to marvel or better yet IMAGE. Image was the best since marvels run. Keep these indie companies away from major titles..they just dont seem to handle them well.

I think everyone is missing the point. You have to forget everything you learned from marvel and let it run it's course. It's a new take on the characters and it will take alot longer than 4 issues to make or break this series. I actually like it, except for the translated scottish dribble in Destro's castle. Just look at the origin series......That one is WAY off of what we know from Marvel.

[Griff]

I think everyone is missing the point. You have to forget everything you learned from marvel and let it run it's course. It's a new take on the characters and it will take alot longer than 4 issues to make or break this series. I actually like it, except for the translated scottish dribble in Destro's castle. Just look at the origin series......That one is WAY off of what we know from Marvel.

Perhaps but their rebooting is nto off to a great start and the artwork is less than stellar. The characters seem to be too heavily influenced by the way thigns are shaping up via the movie. N ow theres no direct TIE IN between this joe comic and the movie-verse but the influence, while subtle..is there. Besides Image coulda done a MUCH better reboot i think. I just don't liek IDW. They butchered transformers so badly.. and they seem to be on a roll with joe.

[CaliBeachhead32]

Origins and Cobra will save IDW. They're murdering the main title, though. They need to speed shiz up big time!!

I admit, it's early. But if they don't pick up the pace, a whole lot of us are going to drop off and stick with Origins.

my two cents.

[Gamble]

The IDW series won't go past issue 20 with what I am seeing now.

IMAGE/DDP did a much better job and still went under. It would take "Marvel" level Joe quality for this to stick around past issue 100.

Not going to happen.

[Griff]

The IDW series won't go past issue 20 with what I am seeing now.

IMAGE/DDP did a much better job and still went under. It would take "Marvel" level Joe quality for this to stick around past issue 100.

Not going to happen.

no no there will be a hundred issue...but none of them will have continuity, will be useless one shots and pointless mini-series and stuff alone those lines just like transformers.

[Viper46]

no no there will be a hundred issue...but none of them will have continuity, will be useless one shots and pointless mini-series and stuff alone those lines just like transformers.

one of the things i liked the best about the image / ddp joe comics was that they stayed with the CANON...the original marvel run.

that made GI Joe different from all the other titles out there.

there was ONE joe universe, and it made things easier to understand, and in a large part, made the characters MUCH more concrete...therefore, things such as:

Snake Eyes not being used...
Scarlett being with Duke vs. Snake Eyes...
Dial Tone being a chick...
Destro being w/o mask...

are big obstacles.

the snake eyes / scarlett thing seems to be a big issue to many of us. i think that issue had gotten to be much bigger than obviously Dixon wants to accept. it was part of WHO the characters were.

What if they decide to NOT pair up Destro and the Baroness?

that too, to me, would seem like 'heresy' to the GI Joe story.

i KNOW this is a new take on the joes...but that doesn't mean they HAVE to change so much.

on bigger issues like this, the characters, they should stick more to canon...in my opinion.

that being said, i could care less about the Dial Tone thing...he was never developed that much as a character. although, they could have introduced a new character just as easily.

[Troynos]

IDW Proves that they were the not a good choice to get this title. Give it back to marvel or better yet IMAGE. Image was the best since marvels run. Keep these indie companies away from major titles..they just dont seem to handle them well.

Image never had the Joe liscense. Devil's Due Publishing did. Image just published the books for Devil's Due. DDP was responsible for all content. Image is a publishing house, they don't own any of the properties. People bring finished properties to Image and they print it. Image is basically a bunch of indie companies printing under one banner.

So you want to give it back to DDP? Atkins is a better artist then Steve Kurth and Dixon is a better writer then Josh Blaylock.

DDP's going the way of the dodo, they haven't published anything in awhile.

[Griff]

Image never had the Joe liscense. Devil's Due Publishing did. Image just published the books for Devil's Due. DDP was responsible for all content. Image is a publishing house, they don't own any of the properties. People bring finished properties to Image and they print it. Image is basically a bunch of indie companies printing under one banner.

So you want to give it back to DDP? Atkins is a better artist then Steve Kurth and Dixon is a better writer then Josh Blaylock.

DDP's going the way of the dodo, they haven't published anything in awhile.

well before it went to ddp solely it had better storys IMO, whether they were image artists and writers or not..when it went soley ddp is when it started getting wwwwaaayyyy weird and out of hand. And if that be the case...just give it back to marvel but damnit get it away from IDW, :)

[Troynos]

on bigger issues like this, the characters, they should stick more to canon...in my opinion.



BRING ON THE CHANGES!!

As long as they don't change the core character, which they haven't, anything is fair game.

I welcome the changes.

The problem with the IDW run is that people don't want to accept that things can change. Everyone has a concrete idea of what Joe should be and are unwilling to give anything a chance that isn't what they want it to be.

Don't hook Destro and Baroness up. I'm glad Snake-Eyes isn't central. I'm glad there's no Scarlett/Snake-Eyes, that relationship never made sense to me.

People have such a narrow view of G.I. Joe, that if it's not exactly what they remember/grew up on, then it's wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, IDW is more Joe then DDP ever came close to being.

[Troynos]

well before it went to ddp solely it had better storys IMO, whether they were image artists and writers or not..when it went soley ddp is when it started getting wwwwaaayyyy weird and out of hand. And if that be the case...just give it back to marvel but damnit get it away from IDW, :)

It was never "Image artists and writers". It was always DDP guys. There are no Image artists and writers, there are just the different studios and creators (Image was originally the 6 studios of the founders, well really 2 studios and 3 guys: Homage - Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio and Marc Silvestri; Silvestri eventually made his own called Top Cow; Extreme - Rob Liefeld, and then Jim Valentino, Todd McFarlane and Erik Larsen never had "studios").

Blaylock, the original writer of Joe, was the founder/president/etc. of Devil's Due Publishing. Steve Kurth (the worst artist to work on Joe IMO, his work has gotten tons better) was picked by Blaylock.

Giving it back to Marvel doesn't mean that lightning would strike twice. Personally, given who's running Marvel now and the type of stories they produce, they'd probably do an even worse job with Joe.

This is the same company that took an old World War 2 hero, Nick Fury, and made him into a Samuel L. Jackson lookalike.

Ultimate G.I. Joe... no thanks.

[chuchu33]

To be honest, I like what IDW's doing with the series. Yes, I know it's a huge departure from the original Marvel series, but what else can you do? If you stick the the original canon, you'll just be reinventing the wheel. You can't really append to the storyline that much, since the stories all rather went to hell by the end of the run anyway. If you want the original canon, just go back and re-read the classics or buy the upcoming reprinted TPB's. In order for GI Joe to really grow, it needs to redevelop. You can't have it both ways, a new story based on the old canon. Because eventually it will have to diverge, or it'll just be the same story completely rehashed and done over again. And any changes (out of necessity) made to the original storyline will have everybody up in arms. Just sit back and enjoy the new ride that IDW is taking us on. That's what I'm doing.

[Viper46]

To be honest, I like what IDW's doing with the series. Yes, I know it's a huge departure from the original Marvel series, but what else can you do? If you stick the the original canon, you'll just be reinventing the wheel. You can't really append to the storyline that much, since the stories all rather went to hell by the end of the run anyway. If you want the original canon, just go back and re-read the classics or buy the upcoming reprinted TPB's. In order for GI Joe to really grow, it needs to redevelop. You can't have it both ways, a new story based on the old canon. Because eventually it will have to diverge, or it'll just be the same story completely rehashed and done over again. And any changes (out of necessity) made to the original storyline will have everybody up in arms. Just sit back and enjoy the new ride that IDW is taking us on. That's what I'm doing.

i see your point, but i simply disagree.

changing some things...the pit, etc, doesn't bother me.

the way they have the regulars, then the support staff, etc, doesn't bother me...it adds to the story, and in a realistic way.

changing major character aspects...yeah, that bothers me. and i'm talking about myself. over the years since 82, it's as if the characters of Scarlett / Snake Eyes & Destro / Baroness are too intertangled to be seperated. each is a seperate part of the other.

had they gone back and changed the way they got together, etc, i don't think as many people would be upset.

use snake eyes less, i don't think people would be as upset.

those are big deals in many people's eyes.

and personally, the idea that you can't use the same story line is saying that you ( the writer ) are not creative enough to keep it going.

to me, i think it's alot like in the movie...writers don't like re-telling or expounding on given material...they like writing THEIR stuff.

i think that is the case here...or at least i would, if the story line wasn't borrowing heavily from the TV show.

[Gamble]

To be honest, I like what IDW's doing with the series. Yes, I know it's a huge departure from the original Marvel series, but what else can you do? If you stick the the original canon, you'll just be reinventing the wheel. You can't really append to the storyline that much, since the stories all rather went to hell by the end of the run anyway. If you want the original canon, just go back and re-read the classics or buy the upcoming reprinted TPB's. In order for GI Joe to really grow, it needs to redevelop. You can't have it both ways, a new story based on the old canon. Because eventually it will have to diverge, or it'll just be the same story completely rehashed and done over again. And any changes (out of necessity) made to the original storyline will have everybody up in arms. Just sit back and enjoy the new ride that IDW is taking us on. That's what I'm doing.


They need better art and writers.

That's my problem with IDW.

[chuck x goren]

Aye. I cannae' vote for a' th' abbreviated names, lad?!!

[Loose Cannon]

Of all the things you mentioned I don't really like any of them. That's not to say I don't like the comic. My biggest gripe so far is how slow it's starting. I miss the days of an entire adventure in one comic. I understand the need to start slow like this so we can get a taste of all the characters that are on the team, but nothing much has really happened yet. They haven't gone on any missions yet so I'm dying to see what we get when they do.

[Viper46]

i agree with you on that one loose cannon.

the marvel line usually had a self contained issue, as well as stringers that went out into a bigger 'arc.'

now it's like a soap opera.

[CSunkyst]

The with reboots is this, as much as they're jumping on points, they're also great jumping OFF points.

If everything I ever liked about a franchise is tossed out the window like so much garbage, why should I stick around? It's like a whole new series at that point.

[Lt. Faceless]

IDW needs help on this series. I don't think it's going to be sticking around for long.

I agree.I said from the beginning,IDW was a bad choice and i got shit for it.Now it seems everyone is catching on to what i was saying from the beginning.

I'm giving it a year to pick up(alot)or i'm dropping joe comics until someone else gets it.