Another prime time thread. Steven Seagal or Van Damme?

[Gamble]

The follow up thread.

I'm a huge Van damme fan, I own all of his movies (even black eagle)

It seemed like Steven had a few. I was never impressed with his movies. However, Under Siege is a masterpiece.

I don't want to go too in depth yet, I'll let you guys bring up the movies.

Pick you're horse.

[kneroh]

Sorry Gamble, Van Damme is a closeted joke! Seagal all the way.

[Rich_JJ]

The Muscles from Brussles. Both are ridiculous in a fair portion of their movies, but Van Damme has more movies that I actually like.

[Sho Nuff]

JCVD

My favorite is The Quest, I know it's a ripoff of Bloodsport (which is my second favorite JCVD movie), but I just like all the different characters. In BloodSport all we got was JCVD, Bolo, and Ogre

Great surprises were In Hell and Legionnaire, they showed a different side to him.

I can't watch Seagal without laughing because of all that ass hair he has on his head.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Dude I just cant vote I like and hate both for various reasons....

Maybe Segal....damn it I dont know......

[tigerforce-88]

i loved out for justice more than any other segal film vam damme is all right i guess i'll vote for segal. one funny thing if anyone has seen marked for death with segal in one of the car chase scenes watch as they drive by palm trees in chicago i think it's a little cold there for those.

[Kungfuguy]

I'm not a fan of either, but I'll pick Van Damme. VD may have redeemed himself in the eyes of Hollywood. And welcome him back! His last movie was a critical hit, called JVCD. It's french. The mussels from Brussels can really act. It's a soul burning performance. He should keep making french movies because he sounds more intelligent. His english is gawd awful and makes him look awkward.

For a big comeback vehicle, he should team up with Luc Besson.

[bigdaddyblue73]

Seagal--Hard to Kill, Under Siege, great flicks

[Dawg99]

seagal would snap him in half

[Gamble]

Has no one seen Hard Target? John woo's first american film?

[Sho Nuff]

lol, There's only two good scenes in Hard Target

1. When Willie Carpenter is begging Ted Raimi for help, but he thinks Willie just wants change and Raimi says something like, "I ain't got no money, man". That's when Carpenter realizes everyone thinks he is just a bum, so he decides to die like a man and does.

2. When Lance Henriksen thinks he has disarmed the grenade and you see that little spark and he says his best line every, "Whoops" and is blown to peices.

[spacemonkeymafia]

F this Highlander....

[Bravestarr]

The follow up thread.

I'm a huge Van damme fan, I own all of his movies (even black eagle)

It seemed like Steven had a few. I was never impressed with his movies. However, Under Siege is a masterpiece.

I don't want to go too in depth yet, I'll let you guys bring up the movies.

Pick you're horse.

http://seagalology.com/img/movies/undersiege.jpg

From "Executive Decision," which is one of my all-time favorite movies:

http://i1.fc-img.com/CTV02/Comcast_CIM_Prod_Fancast_Image/62/457/1193077032858_1199_0002.jpg_408_209.jpg

[Raistlin]

Neither of them has any depth worth mentioning, and I doubt anyone considers either a horse (that would be a copliment)?

[WriteViper]

Two words: Double Impact. Van Damme all the way.

[karamazov80]

Glad to see Seagal (currently) winning out. I'm a fan of his wackiness, and his genuine bad-assery, vs. Van Damme's ability to do splits and to dance well:

YouTube - Van Damme On the Dance floor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIJtS4gbaY)

Seagal's more "realistic" 5 second fights were really the precursor to the modern "Bourne/Batman/Bond" fighting styles.

Also, if anyone is a serious Seagal fan, check this out:

Amazon.com: Seagalogy: A Study of the Ass-Kicking Films of Steven Seagal: Vern: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Seagalogy-Study-Ass-Kicking-Steven-Seagal/dp/1845769279/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237952097&sr=8-1)

It is awesome.

[Sho Nuff]

Under Siege, Under Siege, Under Siege
Give me a break!

Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Busey carried that whole movie, without them that movie is a Peice-O-Shit.

P.S. Anyone could have played Seagal's part and it would have been just as good.

[kneroh]

Neither of them has any depth worth mentioning, and I doubt anyone considers either a horse (that would be a copliment)?

Hey Fellini, we're not the Oscar commitee over here. Relax.

[CobraCrimson]

Gotta go with Michigan boy, Steven Seagal even though he's packed on the pounds but he still kicks ass. His best role yet, The Cock Puncher in The Onion Movie! No seriously though he's had alot of lower budget movies the last 4 years or so but so has VanDamme.

[Sho Nuff]

From "Executive Decision," which is one of my all-time favorite movies:

http://i1.fc-img.com/CTV02/Comcast_CIM_Prod_Fancast_Image/62/457/1193077032858_1199_0002.jpg_408_209.jpg


lol, the only thing he did good in that movie was die early.

KURT RUSSELL RULEZ

[Gamble]

I love how tankers get violent over a B list action star thread.

Too much sugar.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Hey Fellini, we're not the Oscar commitee over here. Relax.

Well actually....

[Raistlin]

Hey Fellini, we're not the Oscar commitee over here. Relax.

Stop the name calling. I do not like to be associated with the French, and neither would G.I. Joe.

[arashikage tat]

I went with Seagal!!! The King of three word titles
Out For Justice
Hard To Kill
Above the Law
Marked For Death
The Glimmer Man

[Sho Nuff]

I went with Seagal!!!
The Glimmer Man

The Glimmer Man, 1 sec I need to go rip out eyes.

[Gamble]

The glimmer man! The little restaurant/coffee shop scene? Haha, that gets me every time.

[DaViper]

How can you diss a guy that gets down like this...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/58/189258674_8769b0b642_o.gif

[arashikage tat]

The Glimmer Man, 1 sec I need to go rip out eyes.

Ooh don't forget "On Deadly Ground"

[Zoltron]

Van Damme starred in the Oscar nominated Street Fighter film.

Steven Seagull just sucks. I honestly think Mad tv's Will Sasso doing an impression of Steven Seagull is better than the real Steven Seagull.

[ladyhump]

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/ladyhump-albums-random-stuffs-picture5827-segal.jpg

nuff said

[Gamble]

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/ladyhump-albums-random-stuffs-picture5827-segal.jpg

nuff said


I've been to one of his concerts.

[arashikage tat]

That should be cause for an infraction lol

[Sho Nuff]

Nuff Said, wait, what?

[Gamble]

My ex best friend was a huge fan and had tickets.

He was my best friend at the time, so I didn't have much say in the matter.

[DaViper]

hahaha that's pure JCVD right there!!! wait...no splits?!?

[Gamble]

Universal Soldier was a great movie.

[CobraCrimson]

Steven Seagal:

Driven to Kill (2009)
Against the Dark (2009)
Ruslan (2009)
Pistol Whipped (2008)
Kill Switch (2008)
The Onion Movie (2008)
Flight of Fury (2007)
Urban Justice (2007)
Mercenary for Justice (2006)
Shadow Man (2006)
Attack Force (2006)
Today You Die (2005)
Black Dawn (2005)
Submerged (2005)
Out Of Reach (2004)
Into the Sun (2004)
Belly Of The Beast (2003)
Out For A Kill (2003)
Half Past Dead (2002)
The Foreigner (2002)
Exit Wounds (2001)
Ticker (2001)
My Giant (1998)
The Patriot (1998)
Fire Down Below (1997)
The Glimmer Man (1996)
Executive Decision (1996)
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (1995)
On Deadly Ground (1994)
Under Siege (1992)
Out For Justice (1991)
Hard To Kill (1990)
Marked For Death (1990)
Above The Law (1988)

[Sho Nuff]

Universal Soldier was a great movie.

He's making another one right now.

[CobraCrimson]

I'd rather watch Rob VanDamme (RVD) than Jean-Claude VanDamme. Universal Soldier 1&2 weren't bad though. Goldberg was great in the second one! lol.

[Sho Nuff]

Steven Seagal:

Driven to Kill (2009)
Against the Dark (2009)
Ruslan (2009)
Pistol Whipped (2008)
Kill Switch (2008)
The Onion Movie (2008)
Flight of Fury (2007)
Urban Justice (2007)
Mercenary for Justice (2006)
Shadow Man (2006)
Attack Force (2006)
Today You Die (2005)
Black Dawn (2005)
Submerged (2005)
Out Of Reach (2004)
Into the Sun (2004)
Belly Of The Beast (2003)
Out For A Kill (2003)
Half Past Dead (2002)
The Foreigner (2002)
Exit Wounds (2001)
Ticker (2001)
My Giant (1998)
The Patriot (1998)
Fire Down Below (1997)
The Glimmer Man (1996)
Executive Decision (1996)
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (1995)
On Deadly Ground (1994)
Under Siege (1992)
Out For Justice (1991)
Hard To Kill (1990)
Marked For Death (1990)
Above The Law (1988)

lol, is that a list for the worst peices of shit ever made. hahahahhahahaha bah hahahahahaaha

[Gamble]

He's making another one right now.

I'm sure it will be crap.

Oh, I'll still buy it.

[VIPER 48]

Seagal...

[CrimsonGuard101]

Steven Segal!

Because he's just a cook!

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

Van Damme Cheats. He got the studio to recut Bloodsport to make it look like Bolo lost.

[skatezaz]

Seagal cause he is an Aikido champion

[A.C.T.]

Van Damme all the way. JCVD showed he can act. We already knew he could kick ass.

[Gamble]

Van Damme all the way. JCVD showed he can act. We already knew he could kick ass.


And do the splits.

[Tammman]

Bruce Lee or Sonny Chiba would have pummeled either one of those jokers...

[iDzBowl]

Seagal sucks! Everytime he shows up on the screen they put it in slow motion and put some dramatic hero music on. It's like, hey look, Seagal just got done peeing, oooo ahhh he's a hero!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Segal could have been a really good Flint if they had used him when he was younger (he would have to loose A LOT of weight to make that work today) and I would have been first in line waiting to see R.O.C LOL. Vandame could be cloned like that one retarded movie he was in again and he could play Tomax and Xamot! Classic 80s super cheese effects would go a long way with them both in the same movie HAHA

These guys just make it more fun, Bruce lee? Meh, he is expected to be all Ninja Kung Fu battlegrip dude, if he wasn't what would he be?

[JR0d28]

I voted Van-Damne, I saw Steven Segal at a local roadhouse 2 yrs ago his singing his mehhh...ok but he got FAT!!!!

[AMERICAN_Hero7]

Van Damme actually used to kickbox before acting so...VD all the way

On a side note, a "real" Bloodsport 2 is in the works...wiht Van Damme

[The Commander]

JCVD gets my vote. Never can get enough Bloodsport.

[Darren]

Mr.Van Damme for the win. Has Seagal even made a movie that's watchable. At least Van Damme has a couple of great.....well maybe good movies. I liked Legionnaire and Bloodsport.

[swafus]

They are both equally ridiculous so I can't pick one. Okay, Seagal just because he is much more hilarious.

[Zefram]

Jesus, is this really a contest? Both their movies suck equally and they both have egos the size of a solar sytem, but Stevel Segal actually earned it. He actually owned his own dojo IN JAPAN! He was the first foreigner to EVER do that in Osaka's history and is a 7th dan black belt in akido (which is 2 dan away from being God).

On top of that, he's done a lot of work for animal rights and the environment. Even fat, old, and out of shape, he could probably wipe the floor with Van Damme.

[Unclassified]

stee'phon all day. he's the only dude that can rock a pair of tight ass wranglers runnin' down a road, catch ya, beat the hell outta ya, then beat the hell outta ya some more, jus' in case you were gonna laugh at his jeans. steve segal strikes fear....

[jayeyejoo]

seagal's a joke!

[Zefram]

http://mattmorrissette.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/jean-claude-van-damme-01.jpg
vs
http://www.monkeysandcarbombs.com/my_weblog/images/2008/05/11/steven_segal.jpg

[Avac]

They both suck. And so does Patrick Swayze. Road House was gay. Not just gay but super mega ultra triple dog gay. The Three Stooges all the way!

[CrimsonGuard101]

http://mattmorrissette.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/jean-claude-van-damme-01.jpg
vs
http://www.monkeysandcarbombs.com/my_weblog/images/2008/05/11/steven_segal.jpg

This alone should end this debate! Perfect pic! Segal is so much kick ass, mine hurts just because he can kick it from that far away!

Van Dame belongs in the Russian Ballet!

[spacemonkey]

JCVD. The whole badass goomba thing was never very believable and Segal's ass became bigger than his career.

[pud333]

Van Damme. Hands down.

[talldrkhansom]

Segal was more of a straight wipe your ass kinda fighter. Van Dame would take a few shots then wipe your ass. So I would have to say Segal.

[Fury]

While the quality of his films has fallen way off (Under Siege being the last one he did that was worth mentioning) Segal wins this in my mind. His fights were way more authentic than JCVD.

However that being said they are movies afterall and the point of a movie is entertainment and JCVD had his share.. i always liked Cyborg and Kickboxer and Bloodsport was good too.

[coola784]

steven seagul aint no joke, so i voted for him.

[The Delta]

got to say van damme because he never ran to the feds when the mob wanted a piece of his movies.true story from a few years back.

[Gamble]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2008/02/11/vandamme460.jpg

[Captain Carstein]

Well, as far as movies go, I have to admit I've enjoyed a few Van Damme ones. The Segal movies I watched mostly made me cringe.

As for who's more bad ass in real life, well that's for you guys to decide that actually pay attention to what these jokers have for breakfast.

[Shogi]

Simply put, Van Damme was a Timecop while Seagal wound up as a cook with a pretty pink bandana

Timecop Wins!

[arashikage tat]

I just finished watching On Deadly Ground

laaaaame! Yet I still voted for Seagal.

Hard to Kill...nuff said

[Gamble]

I just finished watching On Deadly Ground

laaaaame! Yet I still voted for Seagal.

Hard to Kill...nuff said


The Glimmer Man.

[Gamble]

Timecop was the best.

I would go buy it, It's 6.50 at Best Buy right now.

http://www.focoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/timecop1.jpg

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/timecop04.jpg

http://blogs.amctv.com/future-of-classic/timecop-jcvd.jpg

[kneroh]

I want to create another account just so I can vote for Seagal again... and of course to post an insanely long run-on sentence filled with vulgarity, poor grammar and completely nonsensical, about 58 times.

[DarthBrett]

Both are equally poor actors, just as cheesy as the other and both are entertaining to watch in bad movies............I can't decide who to vote for!!

[alcoholic ewok]

I'll admit that JCVD doesn't have a fight scene that tops this one: YouTube - Steven Seagal in Out For Justice, Bar Scene! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMu2xNBpyQc)

BUT, overall his body of work, including his early 90's action flicks and dancing career, are better than Seagal's movies featuring "insert rapper's name here" or his lame-ass music career.

[Shin-Gouki]

Sho Kosugi

[dsrader]

Seagal is losing it not to mention putting on the weight.

[Gamble]

Seagal is losing it not to mention putting on the weight.

He likes Wontons.

[Griff]

The follow up thread.

I'm a huge Van damme fan, I own all of his movies (even black eagle)

It seemed like Steven had a few. I was never impressed with his movies. However, Under Siege is a masterpiece.

I don't want to go too in depth yet, I'll let you guys bring up the movies.

Pick you're horse.

do you have the original NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER? :)

Oh and I went with Segal..Im not that much a van damme fan save for bloodsport and Timecop (One of the only Van damme movies that had a sem-decent plot)

[crock master]

atleast ray park and chuck norris isnt an option

[Iron Will]

Since Flock of Seagals started using a stunt double like 6 years ago for most of his stuff and the fact that he's a nut job, I go JCVD all the way. Besides JCVD is still in great shape, whereas Seagal got fat like 15 years ago.

[starscream-99]

Frank Dux all the way!!!

[Gamble]

I dig the leg action. I always liked kick boxing.