Crappy players ruined WoW [Archive] - HissTank.com

SVT_COBRA

02-03-2009, 03:08 PM

Is it just me, or did WotLK bring with it a TON of crappy players? Over the last few weeks about 8 out of 10 BGs and instances Ive run have fallen flat on their face. Ive quit out of more groups than I can remember. I'm a casual player; Im too busy to dedicate my life to the game but I enjoy an hour or so after work sometimes and a few hours on a day off, but I've been so put off by the incompetance I hardly play anymore =(

Hicks_Royel

02-03-2009, 03:18 PM

I feel that way about a lot of things. Video games, forums... but that's the curse of popularity.
Besides everyone's gotta start somewhere. You either have to deal with the new folks or shop somewhere else.

Zer0G

02-03-2009, 03:24 PM

That is why you don't pug.

PvE is hard, sometimes there's a fire or some poison, and you have to move.

jaxscorpio

02-03-2009, 03:26 PM

Eh, I don't blame the expansion. The stupid players have always been there. They've likely just been playing on some other server and have now decided to start over on yours and mine. Grrrr. I saw the same thing happen when BC came out. It's just the nature of the beast I guess and something we should expect from a game that's a magnet for these idiotic children.

NeoDragonKnight

02-03-2009, 03:38 PM

Its always been like that as far as I can remember. But I find lowbie asking for 15g or 20g out of no where when you are in a major city even more annoying.

SVT_COBRA

02-03-2009, 03:47 PM

I wouldn't have to pug if these guilds claiming to be 'helpful' actually ran stuff with you. I play on Thrall and Bleeding Hollow, PvE and PvP respectively, and its the same crap both places. I would think if you had leveled from 1 to 80 you would know your classes role by now and be able to do it properly. I healed Nexus on my Enh Shammy and healed UK on my Feral Druid, I think I have it figured out, let alone playing to my normal spec =P

Zer0G

02-03-2009, 03:54 PM

Sounds like you need to find a guild that suits you and join it.

Janus

02-03-2009, 04:00 PM

Go to the Alterac Mountains server (PvP) there is a guild there that is pretty progressive. They will not level you, but they know the instances pretty well to begin farming them. They just have a few rules and such for raiding. They are the Draconic Order, tdohome on a google search should show the web URL.

jaxscorpio

02-03-2009, 04:06 PM

Sounds like you need to find a guild that suits you and join it.

Yeah. I've been in several guilds that were guilds in name only. The only time you even heard from another member was when they wanted gold or wanted you to run them through a lowbie instance. I had no problem doing this for a while but stopped when these same folks would never return the favor on my lowbies.

Oh and you're right about knowing you're role but it's been my experience that a lot of folks tend to power level/solo through most of the lower game and don't bother to learn their role until they're almost max level. So we're forced to put up with their learning curve in end game instances and raids for months.

Zer0G

02-03-2009, 04:13 PM

Check out US Realm Stats - WarcraftRealms.com (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?sort=Total)

Pick a middle high population for your race and go to town. Need to join an established guild with a Website.

Gunzlingr

02-03-2009, 04:28 PM

LOL I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I must be getting old.

Headman

02-03-2009, 04:29 PM

QQ jk. I've barely played since WTLK came out. After I completed the DK newbie zone I just lost interest. I don't mind grouping with less experienced players if they're willing to learn. The thing is half the time you've got some jerk bitching and calling everyone n00bs so people would rather screw around than listen to what this blow hard has to say. I'm not saying that's the case here, but if you pug, you're going to wipe a lot. It's just how everyone deals with it that determines if you're going to have fun or not.

P.S. In the short time I spent on Bleeding Hallow I drew the conclusion that this was a very angry realm.

SVT_COBRA

02-03-2009, 11:10 PM

And you wonder why theyre angry? =D Seriously, I just need a guild to run high end instances and raids. Everybody SAYS they do that in their ads, but for the most part its a few tight knit friends who do their own thing and leave everyone else to their own devices. I've played 3 years, I've seen it all. I don't even want to get into what happened with my guild in Naxx25 today...... >=(

zx670

02-06-2009, 01:45 PM

The crappy player syndrome is directly related, at least I think, to WoW being a rather easy game to advance levels in. You don't necessarily have to know how to play your character well in order to level up the character, and this goes with most of the classes. Due to this, people get by being extremely lazy with their characters, not learning how to actually play them, so by the time they get up to higher levels, they still don't know and end up sucking in BGs and instances.

This was much less likely back when I played EverQuest. It took time hours of grouping to level up your character, and you had to know how to play your character or you'd end up wiping the group if you made a big enough mistake. By the time you got up into the higher levels you rarely found a player who didn't know what they were doing unless it was a purchased account.

Anyhow, I just think it's the nature of the game, they wanted it to be largely marketable to nearly any type of gamer, and they succeeded. You can be the absolute of suck at videogames and still get by in WoW with just a tiny bit of effort. At least this is how I see it.

KungFuDip

02-06-2009, 01:49 PM

one of my friends desperatly tried to get me into wow a while back but while playing on his account the fun was quickly soured by the lack of social skills/testerone in the wow community. i was just like wow this is more annoying than the 12yr old on x box live who crapily sings rap songs into his mic cuz his parents dont love him.

georox

02-06-2009, 02:01 PM

WoW - If you play it, you are a crappy player. Find a real MMO.

/thread.

No, seriously though, WoW has to be the simplest, easiest MMO I have *ever* played. You can't really bitch about a game aimed at 12 year olds having a large 12 year old playerbase.

USAgent

02-06-2009, 02:03 PM

i was just like wow this is more annoying than the 12yr old on x box live who crapily sings rap songs into his mic cuz his parents dont love him.

Ha! I know that kid, he's on every time I play COD4!

KungFuDip

02-06-2009, 02:17 PM

lol no offense to younger players but the last two ive encountered were 12 or so they enjoyed shouting inbetween bouts of kanye and supprisingly public enemy : /

KungFuDip

02-06-2009, 02:18 PM

i just wonder what happened to the days when we could all just sit around and yell BANGARANG and RU FI OOOOOOOOOO

alcoholic ewok

02-06-2009, 02:28 PM

I can feel the pain, even if I don't play WoW. For instance the incompetent players have been ruing Battlefield: Bad Company and Left 4 Dead for me the past few days.

SVT_COBRA

02-06-2009, 07:27 PM

georox

02-06-2009, 07:34 PM

Funny...I always thought WoW was aimed at 29 year olds like myself who have been playing Blizz games since the 90s...but what do I know?!? Maybe I'll start tossing unfounded biased opinions out into cyberspace and see what happens =P

It was dumbed down, had any form of violence toned down as much as possible to get a Teen rating, then made to be the easiest, most accessible MMO on the market. Of course, add in all of those lovely neon colors, and tada! Child-friendly game.

SVT_COBRA

02-06-2009, 08:39 PM

I find WoW to be VERY similar in gameplay and styling to WC3, steeped in the novelization lore, and while it can be very simple for a younger generation to play, there is a very strong element of strategy to PvE and PvP that I do not think they can grasp, hence my OP. And I don't think WC1-2 VGA graphics supported these neon colors, but they tried their damndest.
There is a lot of blood, gore, verbal references to such things, constant references to alchohol and weed, adult humor, and a very strong in-depth story line that arcs through all the previous games. I have never been a MMO fan and never will be, but I am very much a Star/Warcraft fan and I enjoy this game for what it is.

KungFuDip

02-06-2009, 08:56 PM

I can feel the pain, even if I don't play WoW. For instance the incompetent players have been ruing Battlefield: Bad Company and Left 4 Dead for me the past few days.

i pretty much refuse to play l4d without friends cause the AI likes to watch me die and the people online run out hog wild to see who can die the fastest...

spacemonkeymafia

02-06-2009, 09:04 PM

Wow were you ever new at some point? In time they will get better.

CallMeRotten

02-18-2009, 05:34 PM

Crappy, good, whatever..players of all "skill" levels ruined the game for me.

zx670

03-13-2009, 04:29 PM

and while it can be very simple for a younger generation to play, there is a very strong element of strategy to PvE and PvP that I do not think they can grasp

First off, it's not all young players that are devoid of talent, there are plenty older players who would make running an instance a living hell as well bc they couldn't do their class' job.

Second, they are good enough to fool you into getting into your instance group and wrecking it shortly after. Even in raids and such, one mistake from a moron wipes the raid. Granted I was in a pretty casual guild but we still raided, and sometimes just for sheer need of numbers in the raid we'd invite lesser quality guild members along and it was nearly always a headache.

Due to the ease of leveling in this game the overall competence of the player base suffers tremendously.

RazorOye

05-25-2009, 11:39 AM

I hardly play anymore - I found that the raiding scene in WOTLK was pretty meh. I only did MC and BWL in Vanilla wow but in BC we raided much more and got halfway through SWP before Blizz nerfed it. And the guild just sorta broke up because of the time of year - summer, jobs, moving, spending time with gfs, etc...

I was fortunate enough to get both glaives off Illidan and to this day my rogue is still level 70 and sporting the Legendaries. I opted to level my lock for WOTLK but while I enjoyed the questlines in WOTLK more than in BC, I think the raiding scene so far is underwhelming.

There are a couple of cool bosses in Ulduar. ANd perhaps Icecrown Citadel will make it more compelling.

But right now the primary reason I don't raid is more a matter of content than player skill.

Johnnyakiba

05-25-2009, 11:54 AM

That's why I do not waste my time.

Mech-Viper

05-25-2009, 12:07 PM

most online games you can find the stupid people, but i know WoW has more then it fair share of them and most of them sit around the towns

SVT_COBRA

05-26-2009, 11:42 PM

Ive only ever done Leviathan, Deconstructor, Mimiron, and Vezak in Ulduar, and found them all to be pretty interesting. Visuals are nice as well. But Icecrown will definately be brutal, and heres hoping for Grim Batol and Uldum!