R.I.P Sigma Six

[Slacker]

Now as much as all of you hated Sigma six, (im sure most of you ddi) can you not admit there were some good parts such as, unmasked firefly, and he being a joe for a while!! i thought that was sweet, also lt. stone's appearence, and kamakuras new look...amazing....though hes an idiot..in the show that is...otherwise yes..the whole robots thing stupid..but cobra commander kicked major ass which i thought was a nice change.

[Aelfwad]

I never saw the cartoon, but I like the style of the figures, all the sharp angles and elongated limbs...

[Griff]

I caugth a couple episodes and i must say thank god its gone but never fear...you will be seeing sigma revived as the new movie.

[General Hawk]

I caugth a couple episodes and i must say thank god its gone but never fear...you will be seeing sigma revived as the new movie.

I certainly hope so! ;)

[crock master]

i couldnt imagine firefly blowing up hundreds of thousands of dollars of joe stuff over the years and then all of the sudden the joes are like hey lets let fire fly join the group. makes no sence. its like letting bin laden join the u s forces

[Melissa]

i couldnt imagine firefly blowing up hundreds of thousands of dollars of joe stuff over the years and then all of the sudden the joes are like hey lets let fire fly join the group. makes no sence. its like letting bin laden join the u s forces

What? really? That is dumb and kind of funny.

[General Hawk]

i couldnt imagine firefly blowing up hundreds of thousands of dollars of joe stuff over the years and then all of the sudden the joes are like hey lets let fire fly join the group. makes no sence. its like letting bin laden join the u s forces

Errr...that's not the way it happened in Sigma 6, which was a totally new continuity. In Sigma 6, Firefly started out as a good guy, but was a secret COBRA agent that infiltrated the team and then betrayed them.

Justin

[crock master]

reguardless , it is weak.

[jaxscorpio]

reguardless , it is weak.

Well, it's in good company as VvV and Spytroops were both weak and the Resolute and movie lines will be weak as well. What can I say, some of us are just too fickle when it comes to buying toys and some will just buy anything.

[Cerebral Dissolution]

I think that was awesome. Totally wasn't expecting that and Firefly became one of my favorite Sigma 6 characters.

[iowajedi]

I definitely think there were some interesting characters/designs in Sigma 6. Overall I much prefer the current 25th/modern/Resolute line, but Sigma 6 did have some appeal. And I definitely have to throw it out there - I don't get the venom directed at Resolute above. I think that line is off to a great start and the animation looks great!

[gunslingercbr]

reguardless , it is weak.
you must really hate the side-switching Storm Shadow character, too, then. or are you simply opposed to the concept of a double agent?

Well, it's in good company as VvV and Spytroops were both weak and the Resolute and movie lines will be weak as well. What can I say, some of us are just too fickle when it comes to buying toys and some will just buy anything.

I love the position that if someone likes something you do not, they will buy anything. it's not possible that they actually like it. can you elaborate on how that makes any sense?

only liking RAH designs from the 80's doesn't make your discriminatory preference better, which you are clearly insinuating.

[Von Blitzkrieg]

To me, Firefly is the deadliest commando who lived; .'Revenge of Cobra'. variant. I even made Firefly into a hero, in my Justice League Universe.

Firefly could nuke Snake Eyes without breaking a sweat, I respect Snake Eye(s) character too much to do that; however.

Sigma 6 is Ok, Real American Hero; the real deal. I didn't like the Sigma Six Firefly. though.

[swafus]

Sigma 6 was an abomination and I'm glad it's dead.

[CobraRebellion]

Later Sigma Sux, and good riddance. Those figs will have me in therapy for a long time to come...

[TSHawkeye]

I only saw one episode and a little kid was being chased by a robot for half an hour. I think the figures were kinda goofy looking, directed at a younger fan base. I bought a SS/SE 2 pack and used them for customs. I do respect them for trying to take the line in a new direction.

[Rockshield]

WOW.

Sigma 6 was a story line written for kids... so it wasn't intended on having the adult appeal that Resolute and the movie "should" have. I agree it was the lamest animated form of G.I. Joe... but it introduced us into the most durable and kid-friendly playable Joe toyline that ever existed.

Plus it had the most kick-ass packaging ever. and lots of versions of Snake Eyes. ;)

[QBERT]

WOW.

Sigma 6 was a story line written for kids... so it wasn't intended on having the adult appeal that Resolute and the movie "should" have. I agree it was the lamest animated form of G.I. Joe... but it introduced us into the most durable and kid-friendly playable Joe toyline that ever existed.

Plus it had the most kick-ass packaging ever. and lots of versions of Snake Eyes. ;)

yes, I really liked the toy line. It was real cool, the cartoon was a bit of garbage, but those figures and sets rocked! Grab a SIGMA 6 Zartan and tell me that figure sucks.

[Vanishing Point]

as simple as it is, sigma was a fair concept crashed on the air strip with the paultry need for name recognition... if the main man was named Mirage.... if they threw it in among the Eco-DEF-Battle Corps days it would have been pure win. So call Fire Fly Inferno make the entire thing a bridge to Extreme which is the weakest Joe link in many circles. Someone out there likes the idea of Rocky Balboa, Sam Walton and Roddy Piper among the Joes, others see no problem with a pirate with a parrot, a lippy pacifist, blatant insubordination and no uniform dress code to be elite... oh and to a vast majority these are toys and comics and cartoons we are entirely too old to be stalking the toy eisles like a pedo following a pair of maryjanes...

[DESTRO]

Sigma 6 was cool. The cartoon was good at times, as pointed out above Cobra Commander was actually a Bad Mo-Fo!

There are at least 6 figures from that line that will demand huge amounts of money in the future. Mark my words.

[Cerebral Dissolution]

I agree it was the lamest animated form of G.I. Joe...

Did most of you even spend time watching the cartoon?

Just a highlight, but check out episode 25 from here:

Sigma 6 Episode 25. (http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Videos/VideoSelect&aid=2300) Its highly chopped up but what is there does the job.

The part with the Dragonhawk crashing and the Firebats in battle is amazing.

And then youtube some crap from ARAH or DIC and compare. Hell you can look some of them up from the same site. Pick out your favorite and post it here as an example. I bet you can't. I just don't see how you can even put the older shit above Sigma.

But I understand some people don't like change, and expect Duke to always wear that collared tan-colored pressed shirt in all of his missions, even in 2009.

[The Conflict]

i have the s6 movie on dvd and only watched about 5 minutes of it, i cant watch that crap. the only s6 toys i collected was the 2.5 scale stuff, i still want the tunnel rat set. i bought a bunch of the 8 incher from marshalls and ross a few months back but returned then. i also have the s6 comics,they are'nt that bad

[The Conflict]

Sigma 6 was an abomination and I'm glad it's dead.
s6 will never be dead as long as tru and ross are overflowing with s6 merchindise

[The Conflict]

Sigma 6 was cool. The cartoon was good at times, as pointed out above Cobra Commander was actually a Bad Mo-Fo!

There are at least 6 figures from that line that will demand huge amounts of money in the future. Mark my words.

which ones?

[Hat Trick]

i only watched it a couple times...not impressed at all...never collected anything from that line either.......

[gi49er]

i couldnt imagine firefly blowing up hundreds of thousands of dollars of joe stuff over the years and then all of the sudden the joes are like hey lets let fire fly join the group. makes no sence. its like letting bin laden join the u s forces

--or be PRESIDENT yuk yuk yuk yuk!

[gi49er]

Did most of you even spend time watching the cartoon?

Just a highlight, but check out episode 25 from here:

Sigma 6 Episode 25. (http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Videos/VideoSelect&aid=2300) Its highly chopped up but what is there does the job.

The part with the Dragonhawk crashing and the Firebats in battle is amazing.

And then youtube some crap from ARAH or DIC and compare. Hell you can look some of them up from the same site. Pick out your favorite and post it here as an example. I bet you can't. I just don't see how you can even put the older shit above Sigma.

But I understand some people don't like change, and expect Duke to always wear that collared tan-colored pressed shirt in all of his missions, even in 2009.

--actually, MY old school duke wears the new vest he got in Resolute instead of the bandolier so it HIDES his shirt for the most part, SO THERE !!!

[gi49er]

Did most of you even spend time watching the cartoon?

Just a highlight, but check out episode 25 from here:

Sigma 6 Episode 25. (http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Videos/VideoSelect&aid=2300) Its highly chopped up but what is there does the job.

The part with the Dragonhawk crashing and the Firebats in battle is amazing.

And then youtube some crap from ARAH or DIC and compare. Hell you can look some of them up from the same site. Pick out your favorite and post it here as an example. I bet you can't. I just don't see how you can even put the older shit above Sigma.

But I understand some people don't like change, and expect Duke to always wear that collared tan-colored pressed shirt in all of his missions, even in 2009.

--nd yup, in my joe world tunnel rat eats bugs, heavy duty is scared of mice, snake eyes runs like a fairy! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cerebral Dissolution]

I know Lady Jaye throws explosive tipped spears, everyone can pilot a Sky Striker, no Joe could wipe his @ss without shouting out "Yo Joe", and as stupid as everyone is in Cobra, the elite Joes are unable to defeat them.

Two words that represents everything that got retarded with ARAH: "Cobra La"

No character development, horrible animation even for its day, and the longer it went on, the worse it got.

While I like the comic and loved the toys from 83-85, the original cartoon was an embarassment. I am guessing many of you haven't seen it in awhile.

[Shin-Gouki]

R.I.P Sigma Six

Little late don't you think? Line has been dead for what 2 years?

[QBERT]

There are at least 6 figures from that line that will demand huge amounts of money in the future. Mark my words.

curious to your insight DESTRO. I would think barring variants, one of those six will be LT.Torpedo (would most definitely been LT. Stone, if they hadn't re-released that wave).

[Shin-Gouki]

I have to say that last Destro with the Gas Mask was pretty cool. That's saying a lot as I really disliked the line as a whole.

[kndy]

I'm non-discriminating and with every GI Joe that people have hated throughout the 25 years, I bought and own. As for "Sigma 6", those toys were freakin' awesome. Maybe not for the hardcore GI Joe ARAH fans but for the weapons and the accessories, GI Joe parents who grew up as kids should be happy if their children played GI Joe (period) and if Sigma 6 was it, those were freakin' cool toys.

I watched a lot of the first season of S6 but parts of the second season was available and missed everything else but managed to purchase every S6 toy (non-variants) with the exception of Wet Suit, Cobra Firefly and red paratrooper Ninja.

But otherwise, everyone has their own opinion. I was the same way with the 90's GI Joe releases and the Street Fighter GI Joe releases and ended up owning some of them too...hehe..

[Elite Force Cobra]

Sigma 6 was fun to collect while it lasted but the 25th series is undeafeated brings us back to the 80's where it all started. And if it never started there would have never been a sigma 6 line

[Scoop]

I never saw the cartoon, but I like the style of the figures, all the sharp angles and elongated limbs...

I liked the size and the style of the figures as well. I just wished that they were all ARAH themed instead.

[Zoltron]

It was too anime/manga for me.

I don't mind anime/manga. But to see things I had grown up with going towards that generic style that every cartoon seems to have these days was disappointing. The robots were cool, but the cartoon had the same lame stories at Bakugan, Mik-Al-jacksagan, Yu-gi-oh, and others. The characters lacked depth as well.

This same rant applies to TF: animated, Marvel comics in 97, and anything else they attempt to "manganize". The reason why joes were so cool is that they avoided this completely.

The toys were meh. I would have preferred to see them done in 3 3/4 style. But that didn't happen. I would have at least bought a few of the villains in that style.

[1SGHauser]

I hated it. Good riddance. I feel for those who enjoyed it as it's always sad when a line you like goes the hard way, but they, in my opinion, were pretty awful.

Flint with long hair and no beret? Suck ass.

[XVoodooDollX]

i just wish they had made a damn scarlett!!!!!!

[QBERT]

I have to say that last Destro with the Gas Mask was pretty cool. That's saying a lot as I really disliked the line as a whole.

Crime Boss DESTRO....an awesome figure! The acessories are so damn cool (money, gold bars, gas mask, etc...)

bring back the 6!

[Animal Mother]

I got into this line late last year, kind of an impulse thing really thanks to TRU stocking the Zartan/Stone case (I always secretly wanted the Zartan figure when they were in stores).

I had fun cleaning out TJ Maxx, Ross, old K-Marts, anywhere I could find them and put together the collection I wanted.

I went from being a hater, to appreciating what they were trying to do and while I still think they're great toys, I'm going to be letting what I have go. I just don't have the room between RAH and Sigma 6.

[Slacker]

Little late don't you think? Line has been dead for what 2 years?

haha, goodpoint. but what better way to fight boredom then with a thread on hisstank!?

[QBERT]

I got into this line late last year, kind of an impulse thing really thanks to TRU stocking the Zartan/Stone case (I always secretly wanted the Zartan figure when they were in stores).

I had fun cleaning out TJ Maxx, Ross, old K-Marts, anywhere I could find them and put together the collection I wanted.

I went from being a hater, to appreciating what they were trying to do and while I still think they're great toys, I'm going to be letting what I have go. I just don't have the room between RAH and Sigma 6.


Animal, what do you got?? PM me with a list. thanks!!

[Slacker]

I agree with alot of you, the story sucked, the animation was lame. it was all robots...overkill was in a septic tank, the series was lame..kid based. but then i think back to how horrible all the joe artoons were, and realized.."wow, this really isnt so bad!, atleast cobra commander isnt runnign around screaming like a ten year old girl!" i mena, come on. if you seen the show...he kicked some ass. also some of you say the firefly thing was stupid..i think its cool in the way that he was actually in the show...and with a big part! (insert dirty comment) and you could see his face. (the whole goate thingy added to his wickedness.)

i dont think it was so bad...but it did suck.


and the figs were pretty sweet i agree. i never did get a flint(god damnit!!)...and the newer ones started to look like rescue heroes..

[G.I. Smurf]

Errr...that's not the way it happened in Sigma 6, which was a totally new continuity. In Sigma 6, Firefly started out as a good guy, but was a secret COBRA agent that infiltrated the team and then betrayed them.

Justin

its not a new continuity. duke and hawk talked about hawks DNA being scrambled in the valor vs venom movie. but your right in that firefly wasnt ever supposed to be a bad guy before either. its totally odd.
anyhow, i hated the figures, didnt hate or love the cartoon, i could have loved it if there were lots more joes.

[Dream]

its not a new continuity. duke and hawk talked about hawks DNA being scrambled in the valor vs venom movie. but your right in that firefly wasnt ever supposed to be a bad guy before either. its totally odd.
anyhow, i hated the figures, didnt hate or love the cartoon, i could have loved it if there were lots more joes.


In the cartoon, Sigma Six takes place 20 years after the events in the VvV movie.

The confusing part is that it is an all new team using the same old code names.

And that would mean Cobra people are all old.


I recently watched the first episode on demand and Hawk was explaining the 20 year thing to the new Duke.

[Slacker]

In the cartoon, Sigma Six takes place 20 years after the events in the VvV movie.

The confusing part is that it is an all new team using the same old code names.

And that would mean Cobra people are all old.


I recently watched the first episode on demand and Hawk was explaining the 20 year thing to the new Duke.



seriously!? hmm...never caughtt hat...so how old is hawk, baroness destro and CC...thats odd...that would make him oretty old, and he was monstrous..

[Dream]

If you have Comcast, go to On Demand, then Kids, then Kabillion, then the G.I. Joe listing, they have a few Sigma Six episodes.
Watch the first one, Hawk says that in the start.
That's what confused me.
I mean, it's hip for them to have continued the story from the JvC and VvV movies, but then you got Snake Eyes with his two people, who all should be old, unless they found new people to give codenames to.
But then again, it was a kids show, so I shouldn't look too much into it.

[xhairs]

im glad it is gone. it killed what joe was.

[Slacker]

im glad it is gone. it killed what joe was.


but joe was a horrible cartoon...just awful...horrid...anyway, joe was a horrid cartoon, and so was sigma six. it simply followed in its shadow..or fottsteps if you will, but we all know it doesnt have footsteps because it cant walk..its a cartoon..i dont know where im going with this, but lets look at the bright side.

"now you know, and knowing is half the battle!"

Yo Joe, man who says it killed joe...Yo joe..
haha

[Dream]

Not really.
The line was not really doing that well at all, with no show to back up the toys.
What was supposed to be Robot Rebellion got transformed into Sigma Six, which was not really a bad show by itself.
The hate for Sigma Six comes from the fact that they canceled the Joes we all loved and introduced a new scale of figures.
I won't go into how cool the figures were, or how it didn't kill the Joe line, as you seem to think it has.

[Slacker]

Not really.
The line was not really doing that well at all, with no show to back up the toys.
What was supposed to be Robot Rebellion got transformed into Sigma Six, which was not really a bad show by itself.
The hate for Sigma Six comes from the fact that they canceled the Joes we all loved and introduced a new scale of figures.
I won't go into how cool the figures were, or how it didn't kill the Joe line, as you seem to think it has.


i agree it didnt kill the joe line. dont belive me...look at my basement. i loved the figures! firefly/stone especially!
it sucked that as the line started to get better(kung fu master or whatever/flint) they ended it.

and wha was robot rebellion? overkill coming back after VvV?
i never heard to much about it...sounds like the terminator..haha, and in sigma didnt he speak of rebellion while in his septic tank? (haha)

[Dream]

Robot Rebellion was the next theme after VvV, and most of the designs behind it went towards Sigma Six.
Lt. Stone and Firefly were awesome characters.

[Animal Mother]

Animal, what do you got?? PM me with a list. thanks!!

Sure, I'll shoot you a pm when I get everything together.

[darkshadow]

any chance hasbro will release core sigma 6 figs on 3 3/4 scale?

[Dream]

darkshadow, those accelerator suits that are going to be used in the movie have a Sigma Six feel to them, as do the vehicles.

[vermillion21]

I actually liked the Sigma 6 line ....

[Dream]

It was an awesome line, very Centurions-esque.
I just wished that they were released in a 3 3/4th scale.

[vermillion21]

Actually, I didn't mind the 8 inch scale, different but still better than the 12 inches figs we're getting. I really liked the designs of the Sigma figures ...

[Cerebral Dissolution]

I've commented a few times on Sigma 6, but here is everything in a nutshell:

Every series needs a reboot. For anyone who says ARAH was perfect either didn't buy all the toys nor see the cartoon. I HATED the ARAH cartoon of the 1980s. I was embarrassed to admit that I like the toys because while I liked the comic book for awhile, all everyone knew was the silly cartoon.

So GI Joe, under horrible Hasbro direction, leaves the amazing 83-85 era and drives it into crap. Everything from about 88 till VvV to me blows. And GI Joe was completely off my radar until I bought my nephew the Sigma 6 Snake Eyes (his first GI Joe) that came with a DVD. It was like sharing a cool character that I knew as a kid, like me and my Dad could relate to Batman. My nephews loved the Sigma 6 cartoon and toys.

So I spent some time catching up on GI Joe. I could see Sigma 6 was a reboot, and I liked the anime appoach. I thought the stories were far better in Sigma 6 than I had ever seen in the old ARAH cartoons, and I loved the younger looking character designs. Remember the target audience for Sigma 6 isn't old ARAH fans in their 30s. But I loved it for what it was, after all, it was shown on Sunday mornings not on Fridays at 10pm.

It took me awhile to realize that Sigma 6 was on its way out, so it took me some time and $$$ to track down all of the 2.5 vehicles, which I absolutely love. They are all sitting in a box for me to go back to when I want. I got a few of the 8 inch figures, but not many. I'll probably wish someday that I did, but they are too big for me.

I also caught up on all of the episodes online, and while they are dummied down for kids, they are far more sophistcated than ARAH ever was. If they put the same designs and quality into 3 3/4 format - they'd be my favorite toys of all time.

So when I look back at GI Joe (and catching up on YoJoe's toy archive), I can see nothing comes close to the days what I had the WHALE, Snake Eyes with Timber, Flint, etc on the floor of my room. I've met people that swear by the 88-90 years to which I just shake my head. I look at GI Joe Extreme or VvV and I can't see how anyone is a fan of them.

There are multiple flavors of GI Joe, and Sigma 6 is just one of them. You can't compare it to the rest anymore than you can compare a modern Batman graphic novel to a Batman comic from the 1960s. Can you imagine how stupid that arguement would be? And as cool as ARAH was in its day, it doesn't mean it stands the test of time today. I don't hear a lot of kids buying 25th Anniversary figs - I think its older guys. The young kids have no idea who these characters are. They are busy buying Clone Wars and Transformers.

And I am looking at the toys for Rise of Cobra, like the Mobile Command Center, and see it is just more crap. I wont buy any of it. I bet GI Joe doesn't make a much of an impact with kids.

So to me, the two best things to come out of GI Joe in the last couple of decades, baring the 25th copies, is Resolute which I havent even seen yet, and Sigma 6. They are, while barrowing characters and concepts, are just unique in their own right. Just as GI Joe the comic was different to the old ARAH cartoon. And I don't hear a lot of arguements over that.

And even the comic was stupid at times, and got worse and worse as it went on.

So is Sigma 6 perfect? No, but neither is anything else called GI Joe.

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

My one and only thing I can say for S6 is that figure mold needs to come back in some other form of toy line, personally I could see Thundercats using those bodies, but I've been dying to make Highlander figures from them as well.

[Dirtbag]

In the cartoon, Sigma Six takes place 20 years after the events in the VvV movie.

The confusing part is that it is an all new team using the same old code names.

And that would mean Cobra people are all old.


I recently watched the first episode on demand and Hawk was explaining the 20 year thing to the new Duke.

There 2 versions of that episode the original one that air on fox kids follow VvsV and Gijoe vs Cobra.
However the when it got released on DVD lots of lines where change in order to make Sigma 6 its own continuity. Why was this change I have no idea. The one you are talking about is the one from the DVD.

[green firefly]

Sigma 6 was cool. The cartoon was good at times, as pointed out above Cobra Commander was actually a Bad Mo-Fo!

There are at least 6 figures from that line that will demand huge amounts of money in the future. Mark my words.

I love the 8 inch line. I am one of few collectors it seems who greatly enjoyed the cartoon. In my opinion the toys and cartoon were the best ever produced for GI Joe.

I agree that several of these figures will be worth a lot of money someday. A Flamethrower Heavy Duty and Quad Snake Eyes each sold for over $100 recently on the Bay. The prices of some of these figures seem to be really going up fast. My guess is that certain collectors are discovering them late and others are trying to complete a line that has been cancelled.

[CaliBeachhead32]

Sigma sux!

[spacemonkeymafia]

RIP....dude Sigma 6 is getting a movie this summer.....

[xhairs]

well the new moive has brought it back to life as thats all it is. a live action S6 take.

[Slacker]

what!?!! its getting a movie!?

you have to be kidding me...

someone write a letter to hasbro fast!

[Zefram]

I just saw the episode "Honor" On Demand. Say what you will about Sigma 6, they did Snake Eyes right.

THEY DID SNAKE EYES AND STORM SHADOW RIGHT!

That fight, which naturally ended up on Tokyo Tower, was probably one of the best ninja battles I've ever seen. During the fight, Snake's visor is damaged and we see a single determined eye and a few strands of blond hair for the rest of the fight. This was definately Gonzo Animation on a good day. Hell, we even got to see them training as little kids (Snake wore a full mask even then it seems).

Oh yeah, and Jinx was a CUTIE! It's too bad the friggin toy line was so blatently sexist. I would have scooped her, Scarlet, and Baroness up in a heartbeat.

[spacemonkeymafia]

what!?!! its getting a movie!?

you have to be kidding me...

someone write a letter to hasbro fast!

Your attempt to be a smart ass sucked.....thanks for playing....

[The Conflict]

Sigma 6 is not dead,it just went through a name change. It is now known as G.I.JOE THE RISE OF COBRA.

[Baron Samedi]

Sigma 6-

The saddest thing about this series of figures: When you coolest toy is the Dark Ninja Master and not one of the Joes, you fail hard. Yeah, I said that. Dark Ninja Master was an awesome figure. He was like a coked-up ninja from hell.

Sigma 6 is proof that Americans have let this anime crap get out of hand. We handed over "A Real American Hero" and let them butcher it. I'm suprised the series didn't revolve around Cobra Commander trying to keep the Joes from acquiring collectable trading cards that turn into dragons and furries.

[Steve]

i have to admit. i kinda like the toys now. I picked some up at a flea market and they're kinda cool! I guess I'm a little late huh? lol

[GrimlocksPS]

If you don't like Sigma 6 why waste time coming here to flame a dead toy line?

[spacemonkeymafia]

;648910']Sigma 6-

The saddest thing about this series of figures: When you coolest toy is the Dark Ninja Master and not one of the Joes, you fail hard. Yeah, I said that. Dark Ninja Master was an awesome figure. He was like a coked-up ninja from hell.

Sigma 6 is proof that Americans have let this anime crap get out of hand. We handed over "A Real American Hero" and let them butcher it. I'm suprised the series didn't revolve around Cobra Commander trying to keep the Joes from acquiring collectable trading cards that turn into dragons and furries.

Wasnt the old Joe cartoon borderline Anime? Also TF?

[mynameis]

Sigma 6 is not dead,it just went through a name change. It is now known as G.I.JOE THE RISE OF COBRA.

don't bastardize this sweet toy line by saying that ROC is a spin off

my fav is the unmasked fire fly

[Mercenary696]

I started out late collecting this series. I picked up the first five figures - Snake Eyes, Spirt, Duke, Storm Shadow and Heavy Duty when they first came out about 3-4 years ago. I can't remember the exact date on it, but I just picked up those figures. I thought they were pretty cool, but decided to collect other things.

Time went by and I found this site with images of some unproduced prototypes of figures like Scarlett and Croc Master. It renewed my interest and I found out about other figures that were made like Recondo and Shockwave. Incredible figures. I started collecting these again and now I can't find them in the stores anywhere. I was able to pick up a Paratrooper Duke and Sigma Strike Duke on clearance at ToysRUs. I remember seeing Destro and Firefly in the stores a few years ago, but I never picked them up. I must have just missed the last wave of these by just a few months.

I really think these were ahead of their time. They will be looked back on as a really good series of figures and one I hope they start up again.

[QBERT]

SIGMA 6 was an awesome toy line.

[Shin Densetsu]

Sigma 6 is proof that Americans have let this anime crap get out of hand. We handed over "A Real American Hero" and let them butcher it. I'm suprised the series didn't revolve around Cobra Commander trying to keep the Joes from acquiring collectable trading cards that turn into dragons and furries.Handed over? No, Hasbro specifically wanted Gonzo to animate the series, this is the same studio that was animating Transformers Cybertron. Hasbro doesn't just hand over a property that they themselves own(unlike Star Wars, Marvel, et al which they do not own but just have licenses to produce product for) to a company and say "have at it".

Also not all anime consists of stupid kids trying to capture animals with a ball, most anime doesn't consist of that, just the gimmicky anime that channels here import and tend to think will score higher ratings with kids.

Hell had the direction been different, we could have had something as mature as Basilisk with the level of violence of Afro Samurai, both of which were also produced by Studio Gonzo.

[Zefram]

Handed over? No, Hasbro specifically wanted Gonzo to animate the series, this is the same studio that was animating Transformers Cybertron. Hasbro doesn't just hand over a property that they themselves own(unlike Star Wars, Marvel, et al which they do not own but just have licenses to produce product for) to a company and say "have at it".

Also not all anime consists of stupid kids trying to capture animals with a ball, most anime doesn't consist of that, just the gimmicky anime that channels here import and tend to think will score higher ratings with kids.

Hell had the direction been different, we could have had something as mature as Basilisk with the level of violence of Afro Samurai, both of which were also produced by Studio Gonzo.

Let's also not forget that the original animated series was animated by Sunbow, a Japanese company I believe.

[CynthiaCM]

I liked some of the ideas found in Sigma 6, but I just couldn't get past the terrible (in my opinion) anime art. I know there are anime elements in the Sunbow cartoon (which I'm not a fan of), but it didn't look as exaggeratedly goofy as Sigma 6 (e.g., Scarlett's big, dorky eyes, blade-like hair and teensy mouth).

[hifipinkie29]

I loved the figures. Absolutely awesome IMO. The show, though? I'd rather watch my grandparents make hot steamy sweaty love all night.

[Falconhood]

I completely love the toys, and wish Hasbro would continue the toy line! IMO, this is the 2nd best line ever made for the theme, Super Joe being first(if anyone actually remembers Luminous and Gorr and friends). The figures are so poseable and durable. I really kick myself for not grabbing EVERY figure i saw.
The show, i don't recall watching.
The characters had personalities that I give them, not some show.

[green firefly]

;648910']Sigma 6-

The saddest thing about this series of figures: When you coolest toy is the Dark Ninja Master and not one of the Joes, you fail hard. Yeah, I said that. Dark Ninja Master was an awesome figure. He was like a coked-up ninja from hell.

Sigma 6 is proof that Americans have let this anime crap get out of hand. We handed over "A Real American Hero" and let them butcher it. I'm suprised the series didn't revolve around Cobra Commander trying to keep the Joes from acquiring collectable trading cards that turn into dragons and furries.

Voltron was anime. The original GI Joe series was very close to what I would call anime...but with a bisexual 70's type animation. For example, Cobra Commander's type fitting, butt-showing pants and his slender feminine build.

[Headman]

Now as much as all of you hated Sigma six, (im sure most of you ddi) can you not admit there were some good parts such as, unmasked firefly, and he being a joe for a while!!

Wait. You just named one of the things I hated about Sigma Sux.

[harkiri]

well, the one plus of sigma six really was the abundance of accesories those guys game with. I have the first wave Snake eyes and Storm shadow and they are just LOADED with weapons

[Falconhood]

I love the later double joints on Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow!

[Shin Densetsu]

well, the one plus of sigma six really was the abundance of accesories those guys game with. I have the first wave Snake eyes and Storm shadow and they are just LOADED with weaponsThe accessories really sold me on the line. Articulation was good, but once I saw the modular aspect of some of the weapons and abundance of accessories, I was sold from the start. Especially on the paratrooper figures.

[Hmheggins2000]

I. don't think we have seen the last of 6 sigma. They will be back for some strange reason. If they were to downsize them to 3 3/4 I would cheer them on. They may slide in after the movie or in the movie line of figures. Maybee the movie is a 6 sigma movie and they aren't saying for fear of loosing the adult fan base of collectors.

[Slacker]

The accessories really sold me on the line. Articulation was good, but once I saw the modular aspect of some of the weapons and abundance of accessories, I was sold from the start. Especially on the paratrooper figures.

wait...you guys liked the weapons?
i kinda hated the lasers..and they were all kind of oversized.

[Slacker]

[QUOTE=Headman;713877]Wait. You just named one of the things I hated about Sigma Sux.[/QUOTE/]

i thought it was pretty sweet.
a noce backround change that worked out quite nicely. and he didnt retreat. he kicked everyones ass like i always imagined he would.

[Dirtbag]

But I understand some people don't like change, and expect Duke to always wear that collared tan-colored pressed shirt in all of his missions, even in 2009.


LOL That's true. I always though that outfit sucks.

[Slacker]

LOL That's true. I always though that outfit sucks.

i would like to second that...
or is this a third...maybe ill ask on the stupid question thread...

[Dirtbag]

Don't get me wrong I never been a Duke hater or nothing and the the condemn Gijoe ARAH years are the ones I like the most. I mean I was born in 82. The only reason I had a few original figures was because my neighbor gave them to me, like Zartan who became my favorite right away. However I believe a lot of elements off the early years are now outdated. My favorite Duke was the 1992 version red camo and all.

I understand the reasons many people hated Sigma 6 but the toys were actually solid quality. I want to mention also the designing team was american origin. I don't believe takara-tomy had anything to do with it.

Sunbow was produced by a japanese company.It look the way it did because back then that was the style that was popular. That's why Resolute look the way it did. By the way to me Resolute is how Sigma 6 should have been in terms of series.

[Slacker]

Sunbow was produced by a japanese company.It look the way it did because back then that was the style that was popular. That's why Resolute look the way it did. By the way to me Resolute is how Sigma 6 should have been in terms of series.


Hmm...I agree "dirtbag"

HA.
sorry. just thought it might be fun to say...

it was...


...dirtbag!

[Dirtbag]

Hmm...I agree "dirtbag"

HA.
sorry. just thought it might be fun to say...

it was...


...dirtbag!

You see my first language is spanish and I always thought Dirtbag sounded so cool but I never knew it carry such a negative meaning so looking for a logging name I choose that one and I know NOW that it really hasn't help at all in terms of sharing opinions with some people on the boards. Same thing happen in Joebattlelines. That's why on other Joe Boards I pick Dropshot82. So yeah there is my story.

[Slacker]

interesting.
I think dirtbag is better then dropshot.
^^^^
that could be sexual.

haha.
its a cool name.

[Dirtbag]

interesting.
I think dirtbag is better then dropshot.
^^^^
that could be sexual.

haha.
its a cool name.

LOL Dammit I just took the name from a Transformers. Well Dirtbag it is. Which is funny also cause I'm a clean freak.