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catofadiferntskn
12-24-2007, 03:48 PM
http://www.joesightings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6872

I don't if anyone saw this, but it looks like there is a rumored list of new comic packs. Here they are:

GIJ COMIC 2 PK STORM SHADOW VS FIREFLY
GIJ COMIC 2 PK SHIPWRECK VS COPPERHEAD
GIJ COMIC 2 PK COBRA COMMANDO VS TRIPWIR
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DESTRO VS GRENADIER
GIJ COMIC 2 PK FALCON AND NEMESIS
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DUKE AND RED STAR

The Fridge
12-24-2007, 04:23 PM
See what happens when everyone goes and votes for Crapra-La :eek: as a favorite sub-group! We could be getting a Tiger Force Outback, but no. Maybe we will see a playset where all of the strange terrain turn into giant bugs for the Joe Team to battle.
:D

Some of these seem a little far fetched to me, but I will still buy them all if this turns out to be true.

Deathx360
12-24-2007, 04:41 PM
GIJ COMIC 2 PK FALCON AND NEMESIS

That one alone makes me think this list may not be real. Then again since it would be a new comic it is possible. Nemesis Enforcer seemed to be high on the mail-in list a while back.

Shogi
12-24-2007, 04:48 PM
Personally I would love a Nemesis Enforcer 25th figure. But I'm willing to bet it's just a name for someone else.

First of all, Nemesis Enforcer was never in the old Marvel books (As far as I know)

If this is a new book however, Hama has stated his dislike for all things Cobra-La so I doubt he'd start writing new books with them in it. Especially when they're supposed to go in between the original marvel issues

Now what if this is the Wal-mart exclusive? Perhaps a 2 figure pack with a copy of GI Joe the movie? (Probably hopeful thinking though :) )

Recondo
12-24-2007, 04:56 PM
GIJ COMIC 2 PK STORM SHADOW VS FIREFLY



Ninja Force SS and V2 Firefly anyone?

Deathx360
12-24-2007, 05:31 PM
Personally I would love a Nemesis Enforcer 25th figure. But I'm willing to bet it's just a name for someone else.

First of all, Nemesis Enforcer was never in the old Marvel books (As far as I know)

If this is a new book however, Hama has stated his dislike for all things Cobra-La so I doubt he'd start writing new books with them in it. Especially when they're supposed to go in between the original marvel issues

Now what if this is the Wal-mart exclusive? Perhaps a 2 figure pack with a copy of GI Joe the movie? (Probably hopeful thinking though :) )

I can't think of anyone Nemesis would stand for other than Nemesis Enforcer since all the other names are obvious. Adding Falcon to the set makes it even more likely. Now it seems like in the last Q & A that a cartoon pack was hinted at (Alpine and Bazooka) so it could be a movie pack. Although my first post might have made some think otherwise I would like a Nemesis Enforcer.

Ninja Force SS and V2 Firefly anyone?

That would be great. I like both those versions of those characters even though those colors seem odd on Firefly I think they looked good, just not realistic.

Dark 5cythe
12-24-2007, 05:40 PM
See what happens when everyone goes and votes for Crapra-La :eek: as a favorite sub-group! We could be getting a Tiger Force Outback, but no. Maybe we will see a playset where all of the strange terrain turn into giant bugs for the Joe Team to battle.
:D

Some of these seem a little far fetched to me, but I will still buy them all if this turns out to be true.

At least Cobrala stuff would be new molds and figures instead of tiger force python patrol repaints.

Gentleman
12-24-2007, 05:50 PM
Interesting...

As for SS V.S. Firefly: This is where I see Hasbro correcting Firefly's paint apps. I foresee a darker, grittier version. Ninja Force SS would be great!

Destro & Iron Grenadier? Not too excited about the concept, since IG Destro has been released on a single card and the Iron Grenadier is a figure collectors will want to army-build. If the IG will not be released on a single card, people would have to get 1 Destro for each IG. Sounds like Hasbro to me :D

Shipwreck vs Copperhead: good idea! Maybe they'll get rid of Shippy's closed fist and give him darker color apps, too (or maybe this is where we get the white shirted version)

Falcon & Nemesis: Well, well, well! This doesn't have to be called "comic-pack". Maybe it'll be called a Cartoon 2 pack. Maybe, instead of a comic, we get a dvd of the movie. Who knows. And while I'm no fan of Cobra-la myself, I'm looking forward to a very menacing 25th version of Nemesis Enforcer.

Duke V.S. Red Star: Another great chance for an upgrade. 25th Duke sucks major balls "as is"... but with a few touches, he could be a great figure. First of all, make those awful wirst joints dissapear. Second, give him darker color apps. Third, if possible, figure out a way to make his face look like a real man.

Sarge
12-24-2007, 06:01 PM
Screw you guys! Even if it said:

Falcon vs Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo

Falcon = 110% Win.

SHIPWRECK"N"POLLY
12-24-2007, 06:02 PM
Nemesis enforcer? SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! more cobra la stuff please. I am also down with a new Falcon that is awesome as well

jignacio_2k
12-24-2007, 06:10 PM
If these actually come out..I'm going to get ALL of those mentioned above..IF they come out.

The Fridge
12-24-2007, 06:29 PM
Screw you guys! Even if it said:

Falcon vs Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo

Falcon = 110% Win.

I was always more of a fan of the cartoon, and the figures. I read the comics here and there but was not a collector. I actually did not even know that Mr. Hanky's origins were in the Joe comics, what issue? Is he a Marvel figure or Image, or DDP?:D

HOWDY HO

Don't worry Sarge. If these pan out to be true and it is Nemesis Enforcer, there will still be a terd in the package with Falcon. But Falcon is a great figure.

Sarge
12-24-2007, 06:40 PM
I was a fan of the military first so any military accurate figure got my playtime the most.

In that world Falcon was god. When the time came years ago to sell off my 200+ figures only Lt. Falcon was spared and given a spot in my treasure box.

I do hate Cobra-la though, and yet oddly would be all over a Sgt Slaughter figure like flies on Mr. Hanky.

Shin-Gouki
12-24-2007, 06:51 PM
I would buy all of those listed, however I would have to make a Mexico run with Nemesis Enforcer, he has a M-80 in his future.

xhairs
12-24-2007, 07:13 PM
time will tell but if so there all mine lol.

Deathx360
12-24-2007, 07:36 PM
Seeing your sig xhairs makes me want a cartoon Lady Jaye even more.

As for the rumored comic packs I think a lot of us want Falcon. Even if Nemesis isn't Nemesis Enforcer I will be happy. Ever since G.I. Joe vs. Cobra I have wanted Falcon re-released. He is one of my favorite characters and yes I liked him in the movie, which is the only place I saw him other than the drug special a few years later. I didn't read the Marvel comics until a few years before it was canceled.

Kambei
12-24-2007, 08:06 PM
I am wondering if Storm Shadow vs Firefly will be a Young Master vs Faceless Master from Snake Eyes: Declassified.

If so, could we also be seeing a civilian garb Cobra Commander, Hard Master, Soft Master and Professor Onihashi? Here's hoping.

Monkeywrench
12-24-2007, 09:06 PM
Most of those look weak to me.

Dust Viper
12-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Enforcer would look sweat as a 25th figure!!!!

Shin Densetsu
12-24-2007, 11:26 PM
I am wondering if Storm Shadow vs Firefly will be a Young Master vs Faceless Master from Snake Eyes: Declassified.

If so, could we also be seeing a civilian garb Cobra Commander, Hard Master, Soft Master and Professor Onihashi? Here's hoping.
Did they fight in Declassified? I never read the entire thing, so I don't know.

Jbluez
12-24-2007, 11:33 PM
I would like a Nemesis Enforcer.


Maybe you can catch mine as I throw it across the parking lot.




G.I.Joe vs the movie and logic:
http://www.therossman.com/digest/gijoe_movie_bleh/index.html

CaptainDinobot
12-24-2007, 11:33 PM
Falcon, yes!!! Hope these are real! A menacing Nemesis Enforcer in 25th style would be awesome. Golobulas was the only Cobra-la character I didn't like. The Cobra-la back story wasn't so hot, but I bet Hama could create some way better reason Nemesis Enforcer exists.

Jbluez
12-24-2007, 11:34 PM
Did they fight in Declassified? I never read the entire thing, so I don't know.

No, but they stood next to each other a couple of times. Don't think it necessarily has to be a "VS." pack. :)

Phorpus
12-24-2007, 11:45 PM
I thought I was the first to think of 'Cobra Commando'.

And most of these are looking a little bland for me. But I never really planned on buying the comic packs anyways.

gunslingercbr
12-25-2007, 02:09 AM
Shipwreck vs Copperhead sounds like the previously mentioned lifejacket accessory to me.

Monkeywrench
12-25-2007, 02:18 AM
Interesting...

As for SS V.S. Firefly: This is where I see Hasbro correcting Firefly's paint apps. I foresee a darker, grittier version. Ninja Force SS would be great!

Destro & Iron Grenadier? Not too excited about the concept, since IG Destro has been released on a single card and the Iron Grenadier is a figure collectors will want to army-build. If the IG will not be released on a single card, people would have to get 1 Destro for each IG. Sounds like Hasbro to me :D

Shipwreck vs Copperhead: good idea! Maybe they'll get rid of Shippy's closed fist and give him darker color apps, too (or maybe this is where we get the white shirted version)

Falcon & Nemesis: Well, well, well! This doesn't have to be called "comic-pack". Maybe it'll be called a Cartoon 2 pack. Maybe, instead of a comic, we get a dvd of the movie. Who knows. And while I'm no fan of Cobra-la myself, I'm looking forward to a very menacing 25th version of Nemesis Enforcer.

Duke V.S. Red Star: Another great chance for an upgrade. 25th Duke sucks major balls "as is"... but with a few touches, he could be a great figure. First of all, make those awful wirst joints dissapear. Second, give him darker color apps. Third, if possible, figure out a way to make his face look like a real man.


This all sounds about right to me.

Beyerstein
12-25-2007, 03:26 AM
a Falcon and jinx two pack would have been cooler

InfiniteJest
12-25-2007, 03:55 AM
I'd rather seem them avoid Cobra-La but Falcon, Iron Grenadier, and OctoberGuard would be welcome additions.

This is where I see Hasbro correcting Firefly's paint apps. I foresee a darker, grittier version...
Maybe they'll get rid of Shippy's closed fist and give him darker color apps...
...Second, give him darker color apps.

As good as your ideas are, unfortunately, I think if they're any repaints they'll be of the brighter variety to mimic the comic colors.

tkprime
12-25-2007, 07:53 AM
I'm very pleased at the news, Nemesis Enforcer deserves the 25th treatment, as does all of the figures. For many the Sci-Fi aspect of G.I.Joe is what brought original battles to our backyards and living rooms, Thank You Hasbro!

Stygian
12-25-2007, 10:05 AM
Before giving in to the speculation involved here, my first question is, where does Joe Sightings obtain their information? That would better help me to feel that any anticipation of these comic packs is warranted. Otherwise, it's just speculation for its own sake, which to me could be any Joe figure I want, as what would be the difference, right?

Shin Densetsu
12-25-2007, 10:19 AM
Before giving in to the speculation involved here, my first question is, where does Joe Sightings obtain their information? That would better help me to feel that any anticipation of these comic packs is warranted. Otherwise, it's just speculation for its own sake, which to me could be any Joe figure I want, as what would be the difference, right?
It sounded a lot like it was found in the walmart computers, if this is the case, it is legit for now but may change with regards to assortments and waves.

Something tells me Firefly might be the green and grey one from battle corps, and Storm shadow might be Ninja Force. There is a cover with Ninja force and battle corps Firefly duking it out. I don't really care for that green costume, but Ninja force Storm Shadow is one of my favorite Storm Shadow costumes.

kilowatt
12-25-2007, 10:32 AM
Falcon And Nemesis Lame!

primetoystore
12-25-2007, 12:57 PM
If this is true I am happy to be getting my favorite Joe: Falcon. However, I think he deserves a single pack as do many of the figures on this list. I don't know why they are doing so many 2 packs when I think the nastalgia of the single packs are helping these figures sell. I suppose it saves Hasbro money in the long run.

kilowatt
12-25-2007, 01:57 PM
I don't know why they are doing so many 2 packs when I think the nastalgia of the single packs are helping these figures sell.

My thought's exactly.

Compulsive Collector
12-25-2007, 02:02 PM
I don't know why they are doing so many 2 packs when I think the nastalgia of the single packs are helping these figures sell. I suppose it saves Hasbro money in the long run. Probably because the comics will also create a strong feeling of nostalgia for a lot of us.

PREACHER007
12-25-2007, 02:07 PM
even though i'm glad that the guy's that wanted cobra-la are getting something they want,imho cobra-la blows gopher nuts.my big question is if this list is true why,oh why are we getting all these dang repaints.now i know if hasbro puts a new fig with a repaint the fans will buy,but do you guy really think that duke vs cc will outsell the 'noks or the crimson twins?

kilowatt
12-25-2007, 02:28 PM
I used to read the comic and I am glade to see the 2 packs, I just think the single carded figures are what most of us would rather have.

eddie003
12-25-2007, 03:05 PM
See what happens when everyone goes and votes for Crapra-La :eek: as a favorite sub-group! We could be getting a Tiger Force Outback, but no. Maybe we will see a playset where all of the strange terrain turn into giant bugs for the Joe Team to battle.
:D

Some of these seem a little far fetched to me, but I will still buy them all if this turns out to be true.


go paint yourself a tiger force you fool! Cobra lalalalalalalalalalallalalalalal!

Edd
12-25-2007, 03:19 PM
I'm just one big fan of everything GIJoe. Hope they start to show vehicles soon beside target exclusives. As far as nemesis I grouped him with the v-troopers, venomous right hand man.

The Fridge
12-25-2007, 03:23 PM
go paint yourself a tiger force you fool! Cobra lalalalalalalalalalallalalalalal!

I was just joking about the Tiger Force, however a new Outback would be cool. I'm just saying there are a ton of figures that should come before any Crapra-La la la la la...like all of them. I would rather see a comic 2 pack with an Eco Warrior and a Mega Marine

"Whose the more foolish, the fool or the fool whose post follows him"
-Old Ben

SnAkEyEz
12-25-2007, 03:38 PM
^^ More Cobra La!!! Including Pythona!!! Yes!!!!

Shogi
12-25-2007, 03:43 PM
I was just joking about the Tiger Force, however a new Outback would be cool. I'm just saying there are a ton of figures that should come before any Crapra-La la la la la...like all of them. I would rather see a comic 2 pack with an Eco Warrior and a Mega Marine

"Whose the more foolish, the fool or the fool whose post follows him"
-Old Ben


Well one way of looking at it is like this, You could get a Falcon with any of those "more worthy" figures in a comic pack and then a Nemesis Enforcer on a Single card. Or you can get the Falcon/Nemesis two pack and a "more worthy" figure on a single card.

These are only the comic packs, Hasbro is still gonna be releasing Single packs alongside these. Trust me, Hasbro won't only sell comic packs all year long :)

The Fridge
12-25-2007, 04:09 PM
Before anyone grabs a cobra that turns into a spear and throws it at me, let me say: I really don't care who we get. I am happy to get this line. For years I dreamed of an updated G.I. Joe line with new versions of classic characters, I always said that if this happened I would buy them all. That dream has come to reality and I could'nt be happier. Any new figure is a treat, and I don't see myself as being worthy of deeming any figure "more deserving" of being released. I'm just a human, and along with an asshole I have an opinion. My opinion is that Cobra La is the dumbest thing that could ever have happened to G.I. Joe. If you love it and think that I'm dumb for likeing Spearhead and Max, then more power to you. To me Cobra La belongs on the shelves with the Power Rangers, but that's just me. I have never been one to hold my point of view as having more weight than the next guy. I thought this site was all about expressing your opinion. In your collection Nemesis Enforcer can ride My Little Pony over to Strawberry Shortcakes house to have a tea party with her and some Care Bears. In mine America's most elite fighting force leaves fighting oversized bugs to the Ghost Busters.

Nemesis*Prime
12-25-2007, 04:10 PM
There's only one name in this list I care about and that's IRON Grenadier. If it's true I'm very excited about the prospect of a 25th IG. It may make it's debut in a comic pack but I'm sure it'll be released as on a single card or army builder pack or possibly both.

I'm also a little curious about the COBRA Commando. It may just be a typo for COBRA Commander, or just another COBRA trooper repaint, but who knows. Maybe Hasbro did a 25th version of one of our favorite Vipers, like the Night-Viper or Alley-Viper, but couldn't get the name. Anyway if the list is accurate we'll know soon enough.

And as far as the COBRA-La stuff goes, if Hasbro decides to do a 25th Royal Guard, then I'll get excited.

SnAkEyEz
12-25-2007, 04:56 PM
How Could You Not Like This Guy.. He's Such A Bad Azz

redxavier
12-25-2007, 05:05 PM
Wait... Cobra Commander and Tripwire? How does that make sense?

Falcon should be cool... and although I kinda like Nemesis Enforcer, I wouldn't want him in figure form - but I can just ebay him off so no problem.

Does anyone have a visual aid for what the Duke and Red Star pack might look like? I always liked Red Star, he made for a good generic russian soldier baddie as well as an Oktober Guard fella.

Shogi
12-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Yo Fridge, I wasn't trying to bash ya or anything man. Sorry if it came off that way, I was just offering a different outlook on what we could be getting.

We all love Joe and next year looks like it'll make EVERYONE happy (At least I really hope so :) )

tkprime
12-25-2007, 06:20 PM
For most of us we saw the G.I.Joe animated movie and felt like we got sucker punched, but for those of us in the know, the original plans for series 3 (if Sunbow would have continued instead of DIC) we would have seen a new more powerful Cobra, at odds with the new offshoot team the Coil and both would have been going up against G.I.Joe plus we would have been introduced to the Iron Grenadiers and the official team to stop them would have been BattleForce 2000! (But sadly DIC got the rights to Joe and screwed up with an excellent American Icon, the only worty footnote to DIC was the Writer Doug Booth, who attempted to right the Cobra Commander situation that happened in G.I.Joe's animated feature) Want more proof of Sunbow's intent?? Go check out Transformers episode "only human" Now you know.........and knowing is Half the battle!

tkprime
12-25-2007, 06:22 PM
p.s. We would have seen Cobra-La in Series 3 (remember Golobulis stated "this" kingdom of Cobra-La.............That means there was others! So hell yeah, bring on the Enforcer!

Jbluez
12-25-2007, 07:07 PM
p.s. We would have seen Cobra-La in Series 3 (remember Golobulis stated "this" kingdom of Cobra-La.............That means there was others! So hell yeah, bring on the Enforcer!

Yeah, you know what? Golobulus said A LOT of things. None of them made any great amount of sense.

G.I.Joe vs the Movie and logic:
http://www.therossman.com/digest/gijoe_movie_bleh/index.html

Compulsive Collector
12-25-2007, 07:12 PM
I really don't care who we get. Agreed. And why? Because I don't have to buy that one. If they're really going to package some Cobra-La nonsense with Falcon, then all the better, as I never liked him, either. :D

Jbluez
12-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Before anyone grabs a cobra that turns into a spear and throws it at me, let me say: I really don't care who we get. I am happy to get this line. For years I dreamed of an updated G.I. Joe line with new versions of classic characters, I always said that if this happened I would buy them all. That dream has come to reality and I could'nt be happier. Any new figure is a treat, and I don't see myself as being worthy of deeming any figure "more deserving" of being released. I'm just a human, and along with an asshole I have an opinion. My opinion is that Cobra La is the dumbest thing that could ever have happened to G.I. Joe. If you love it and think that I'm dumb for likeing Spearhead and Max, then more power to you. To me Cobra La belongs on the shelves with the Power Rangers, but that's just me. I have never been one to hold my point of view as having more weight than the next guy. I thought this site was all about expressing your opinion. In your collection Nemesis Enforcer can ride My Little Pony over to Strawberry Shortcakes house to have a tea party with her and some Care Bears. In mine America's most elite fighting force leaves fighting oversized bugs to the Ghost Busters.

Quickly! Find me a My little Pony! There's work to do!

Irid70
12-25-2007, 08:21 PM
Tripwire! Woot!

For no reason I can recall he was one of my absolute favorites as a kid. Hopefully they'll at least issue the poor guy a sidearm this time.

ceraurus
12-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Tripwire! Woot!

For no reason I can recall he was one of my absolute favorites as a kid. Hopefully they'll at least issue the poor guy a sidearm this time.

Mine too! I will be very excited if we get this.

Deathx360
12-25-2007, 09:14 PM
If this is true I am happy to be getting my favorite Joe: Falcon. However, I think he deserves a single pack as do many of the figures on this list. I don't know why they are doing so many 2 packs when I think the nastalgia of the single packs are helping these figures sell. I suppose it saves Hasbro money in the long run.


There are a lot of 2-packs for one reason, more shelf space. They could release every figure single carded instead of in the comic packs but I doubt shelf space would increase any. It would probably mean less figures on the shelves in the end since they would only order cases of singles instead of both singles and comic packs at the same time. A case of singles and a case of comic packs is better than just a case of singles any day as far as numbers are concerned.

As for Nemesis Enforcer, I seem to remember him being high on the mail-in poll at one point. I wouldn't be surprised if several of the figures on the list were already in development when the list was made (Billy please). Hasbro probably saw this as a desire for him so they made or are making a figure if it wasn't in development because they think that is what we want. While Nemesis Enforcer isn't getting much love here doesn't mean a lot more people hate him than like him, although it is very possible.

Until some information from other sources or this is from a source that has been right before I think we should take this list with a grain of salt. Some of the packs seem very odd at best.

gunslingercbr
12-25-2007, 09:22 PM
I could do without a nemesis enforcer, mainly because by making the figure Hasbro is inherently acknowledging and validating that Cobra La is not only part of the official canon of G.I. Joe but the official origin of Cobra, instead of dismissing it as a mistake and simply pretending it never occurred and re-presenting the histories of G.I. Joe and Cobra without it.

thunderdan19
12-25-2007, 09:36 PM
http://www.joesightings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6872

I don't if anyone saw this, but it looks like there is a rumored list of new comic packs. Here they are:

GIJ COMIC 2 PK STORM SHADOW VS FIREFLY
GIJ COMIC 2 PK SHIPWRECK VS COPPERHEAD
GIJ COMIC 2 PK COBRA COMMANDO VS TRIPWIR
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DESTRO VS GRENADIER
GIJ COMIC 2 PK FALCON AND NEMESIS
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DUKE AND RED STAR

I may be way off, but I'm going to be the first to call "BS". Official or otherwise, this grouping with these various misspellings and odd pairings just doesn't smell right to me. Smells a little like someones overzealous wet dream to me. Besides, how many times do we need to see some of these characters? BS.

That is all.

Jbluez
12-25-2007, 09:47 PM
I could do without a nemesis enforcer, mainly because by making the figure Hasbro is inherently acknowledging and validating that Cobra La is not only part of the official canon of G.I. Joe but the official origin of Cobra, instead of dismissing it as a mistake and simply pretending it never occurred and re-presenting the histories of G.I. Joe and Cobra without it.

Well said.

G.I.Joe vs the Movie and logic:
http://www.therossman.com/digest/gij...leh/index.html

Jbluez
12-25-2007, 09:48 PM
I may be way off, but I'm going to be the first to call "BS". Official or otherwise, this grouping with these various misspellings and odd pairings just doesn't smell right to me. Smells a little like someones overzealous wet dream to me. Besides, how many times do we need to see some of these characters? BS.

That is all.

I hope so. Besides, didn't they say something about having mostly new figures in the comics packs from now on? Or am I mistaken.

Deathx360
12-25-2007, 09:54 PM
I could do without a nemesis enforcer, mainly because by making the figure Hasbro is inherently acknowledging and validating that Cobra La is not only part of the official canon of G.I. Joe but the official origin of Cobra, instead of dismissing it as a mistake and simply pretending it never occurred and re-presenting the histories of G.I. Joe and Cobra without it.


Well like it or not it is canon for the cartoon. As far as the toys I don't know how they were handled there so you can probably look at them like you would a Stealth Attack Wolverine, a line filler, or a movie tie-in.

As for the comics I doubt Hasbro will ever make it canon. If this is a comic pack it will either be a movie adaptation or Falcon will have a bad dream where he fights Cobra-La. It could also be a movie DVD or a CD with part of the movie. This is the 25th Anniversary so since Nemesis Enforcer is part of G.I. Joe's history he is fair game, good or bad.

swafus
12-25-2007, 10:23 PM
I may be way off, but I'm going to be the first to call "BS". Official or otherwise, this grouping with these various misspellings and odd pairings just doesn't smell right to me. Smells a little like someones overzealous wet dream to me. Besides, how many times do we need to see some of these characters? BS.

That is all.

Dude, I totally agree!! This looks like a fanboy wishlist to me! I mean, why would destro be "vs." iron grenadier and it's falcon "and" nemesis enforcer??

Steel Brigade
12-25-2007, 10:27 PM
If any of this is true, I'm excited about Falcon, Tripwire, Copperhead, & the Grenadier...would like the Shipwreck in the white shirt, as I though that color scheme looked great. I'll take anything & everything though, the line rox!!

primetoystore
12-26-2007, 12:43 AM
There are a lot of 2-packs for one reason, more shelf space. They could release every figure single carded instead of in the comic packs but I doubt shelf space would increase any. It would probably mean less figures on the shelves in the end since they would only order cases of singles instead of both singles and comic packs at the same time. A case of singles and a case of comic packs is better than just a case of singles any day as far as numbers are concerned.

As for Nemesis Enforcer, I seem to remember him being high on the mail-in poll at one point. I wouldn't be surprised if several of the figures on the list were already in development when the list was made (Billy please). Hasbro probably saw this as a desire for him so they made or are making a figure if it wasn't in development because they think that is what we want. While Nemesis Enforcer isn't getting much love here doesn't mean a lot more people hate him than like him, although it is very possible.

Until some information from other sources or this is from a source that has been right before I think we should take this list with a grain of salt. Some of the packs seem very odd at best.

Hmm, I'm not so sure I agree with this. The comic 2 packs are larger & wider and take up way more room on toy shelves then devoting two hooks to single pack figures. I think it is more about using figures already released and using some new paint applications and packing them with a new figure forcing us to buy two figures for just the one we really want or need for our collections. Hasbro saves a lot of money by using this tactic and makes more money in the process. On the other hand, Perhaps they just want to get the comics in the hands of younger consumers hoping they help increase their interest. When all said and done, the sales of the single packs seem to be doing just fine and If this list is accurate, I will miss seeing a Falcon, Tripwire & Iron Grenadier packaged with the beautiful painted card art. Heads up to Hasbro, I usually buy 2 of each figure of the single packs. One to open and one to keep in the package but the comic packs give no reason for carded versions. So, there may be missed opportunities there and somehow I don't think I'm the only collector out there that does this.

RolandofGilead
12-26-2007, 12:52 AM
I'm just dissapointed because, if this list is true, then Hasbro is moving away from the classic figures I grew up with and delving into the later material that forced me to quit this line and move on.

I realize that I speak only for myself. It's the return to the original figures that brought me back. I want my 1982-1986 figure roster filled long before some of these later versions came along. They still don't do anything for me.

DaViper
12-26-2007, 01:10 AM
you guys realize that these are comic packs, not single packs. So don't count out Hasbro just yet. I'm sure we are going to see a lot more of our favorite classic characters in singles.

ckhtiger
12-26-2007, 01:42 AM
oh man, I will be a happy camper if we get tripwire.

that one, and the copperhead and i.g packs are the ones I'd be interested from this wave.

Deathx360
12-26-2007, 01:43 AM
Hmm, I'm not so sure I agree with this. The comic 2 packs are larger & wider and take up way more room on toy shelves then devoting two hooks to single pack figures. I think it is more about using figures already released and using some new paint applications and packing them with a new figure forcing us to buy two figures for just the one we really want or need for our collections. Hasbro saves a lot of money by using this tactic and makes more money in the process. On the other hand, Perhaps they just want to get the comics in the hands of younger consumers hoping they help increase their interest. When all said and done, the sales of the single packs seem to be doing just fine and If this list is accurate, I will miss seeing a Falcon, Tripwire & Iron Grenadier packaged with the beautiful painted card art. Heads up to Hasbro, I usually buy 2 of each figure of the single packs. One to open and one to keep in the package but the comic packs give no reason for carded versions. So, there may be missed opportunities there and somehow I don't think I'm the only collector out there that does this.

Let me put it like this. Say there is only two collectors in town and there are eight new figures per wave of singles and each collects only one of each figure released. If a store puts out two cases that's all these two will buy. Now lets say they also have a case of comic packs that have eight per case with four new packs in that wave and the case has two sets of four, one set for each. Now if those same collectors bought those as well they just doubled their sells, assuming singles are $5 and comic packs $10.

What I was trying to get at without specifically saying it is you have more choices. You can just increase the number of singles but at some point supply will meet demand, it alway does, and all you have to choose from are singles. Now throw in comic packs, vehicles, and the rumored 4 packs and you have more choices making it more likely you will sell more product. The singles will probably always sell better because of the price but by adding these other items like the comic packs the consumer has more choices and that can increase the likelihood of selling more item regardless of the size. How many of us would buy vehicles if they had them now?

What you are saying about the comic packs is true and that is why they are releasing them. But they can sell them at the same time they sell the singles were as they would have to include them as part of the singles wave and ultimately produce fewer figures or increase the frequency they are released. Given the bitching about not finding things now I don't think having them come out faster and moving on to the next wave quicker would help any.

That is now I see it.

SnAkEyEz
12-26-2007, 01:51 AM
the comic packs are lame, they always make the charactors look stupid , they need the just come out with single packs galore!!

Compulsive Collector
12-26-2007, 10:50 AM
I think it is more about using figures already released and using some new paint applications and packing them with a new figure forcing us to buy two figures for just the one we really want or need for our collections. Like Torch and Ripper? Ace and Wild Weasel? Tomax and Xamot? :)

Hasbro saves a lot of money by using this tactic and makes more money in the process. All of which is good news for the line.

On the other hand, Perhaps they just want to get the comics in the hands of younger consumers hoping they help increase their interest. I doubt it, as I'm quite sure Hasbro's market research team realizes kids make up an insignificant percentage of comic book readers.

Heads up to Hasbro, I usually buy 2 of each figure of the single packs. One to open and one to keep in the package but the comic packs give no reason for carded versions. So, there may be missed opportunities there and somehow I don't think I'm the only collector out there that does this. Not me. I have two Torch and Ripper packs on order, one to open and one to keep carded, and an entire case of wave 3 for the same reason.

More single-carded releases and more comic packs are always welcome here.

CaptainDinobot
12-26-2007, 10:54 AM
For me I dont care how they're sold (with a vehicle, 2-packs, singles, 4-packs, whatever). Just as long as I get most of the characters I want, I'm fine.

Xerofall
12-26-2007, 11:47 AM
I may be way off, but I'm going to be the first to call "BS". Official or otherwise, this grouping with these various misspellings and odd pairings just doesn't smell right to me. Smells a little like someones overzealous wet dream to me. Besides, how many times do we need to see some of these characters? BS.

That is all.


His "source" is probably from China and that would explain the misspellings and perhaps even the odd pairings.

artiepants
12-26-2007, 12:07 PM
His "source" is probably from China and that would explain the misspellings and perhaps even the odd pairings.
It's also fairly common for , fer instance, the Wal-Mart computer listings (which these look like, style wise) to ahve typos and various 'weirdness' in them, or even placeholder names.

artiepants
12-26-2007, 12:23 PM
well, for the time being I'm just going to ASSUME this is legit, but take it with a grain of salt.
GIJ COMIC 2 PK STORM SHADOW VS FIREFLY
ANOTHER Storm Shadow in the Comic Pack line:rolleyes: I'll be interested to see how the do Firefly, since the initial is pretty damn amazing. this will most likely be a pass unless they do something amazing.
GIJ COMIC 2 PK SHIPWRECK VS COPPERHEAD Sweet, Copperhead was one of my favorite Cobras (i LOVED the Moccasin) and he had a cool back story. I thought Shipwreck looked pretty great in the White shirt painting, so i'd be cool with that. PLEASE fix his fists, mmmkay Hasbro!!! (why give a figure with 3 guns a permanently closed fist!!!!)
GIJ COMIC 2 PK COBRA COMMANDO VS TRIPWIR
wonder what "Cobra Commando" could be? I can't think of anyone that'd fit, unless they re-did a Cobra Trooper with some heavy firepower. Scrap-Iron was the only thing i could think of, but i'm pretyy sure Hasbro still has that Trademark.
Tripewire was a great figure, so i can't wait to see a new version. BRING it!
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DESTRO VS GRENADIER
If i was a bettin' man i'd say Silver Helmeted IG Destro. Kinda lame to include an army builder with a unique figure like that. hopefully they'll do a single-pack IG also. (maybe this one'll be the Sergeant-Major IG)
GIJ COMIC 2 PK FALCON AND NEMESIS Great News on falcon (hopefully he gets a new head and isn't just a Flint redeco) if that is Nemesis Enforcer from Crapra-La (as someone coined it) he's got a date with a 3-stage Bottle Rocket. although, leave it to Larry Hama to come up with a reasonable story to explain him... :p
GIJ COMIC 2 PK DUKE AND RED STARbe kinda cool if this was Tiger Force Duke (although i just took a gander through Yo Joe and Duke V. 3 (http://www.yojoe.com/action/92/duke3.shtml) is a nice looking figure with Bad colors that could be fixed.

Red Star was a fantastic figure, but I'm surprised that they'd do an Oktober Guard character that wasn't from the earlier comic appearances ~ did he ever show up later in the comics?

xFlintx
12-26-2007, 12:24 PM
I can't think of anyone Nemesis would stand for other than Nemesis Enforcer since all the other names are obvious. Adding Falcon to the set makes it even more likely. Now it seems like in the last Q & A that a cartoon pack was hinted at (Alpine and Bazooka) so it could be a movie pack. Although my first post might have made some think otherwise I would like a Nemesis Enforcer.



That would be great. I like both those versions of those characters even though those colors seem odd on Firefly I think they looked good, just not realistic.

Alpine/Bazooka comic(caroon?) two pack would be golden. The next cartoon inspired one should be Wet Suit/Leatherneck and then BBQ/Da Viper. :)

artiepants
12-26-2007, 12:33 PM
just was thinkin' that the only thing that really bums me out about this list (if True) is that it's a missed opportunity to do some of the great "Comics Only" characters ~ Dr. Venom, Billy, Kwinn, and Grunt in Dress Uniform come to mind...

quintonarledge
12-26-2007, 01:49 PM
I think that the "COBRA COMMANDO" is really Invasor from Brazil. They already made Satan from Argentina as the Cobra Red Ninja.

gunslingercbr
12-26-2007, 01:56 PM
I think that the "COBRA COMMANDO" is really Invasor from Brazil. They already made Satan from Argentina as the Cobra Red Ninja.
I think that's a huge leap. and they didn't make Satan, they made a Cobra Red Ninja, which has a place in the history of the original RAH line as well as the comic, and just used the art from the Satan figure. but Cobra Invasor has no history to RAH in that same sense, so there is no correlation between making a 25th Red Ninja and a Cobra Invasor.

Stygian
12-26-2007, 07:26 PM
His "source" is probably from China and that would explain the misspellings and perhaps even the odd pairings.

Yeah, but if the list is someone's wet dream, wouldn't the choices have been more 'dream team' oriented? I mean, Cobra Commander and Tripwire?! WTF? Granted, I'd love to see a 25th Tripewire, but paired with Cobra Commander (for some reason) seems to make more logical sense to me from Hasbro's viewpoint, as they only have to create one unique figure rather than two.

No, I tend to think some of these make pretty good sense. After all, Falcon versus the Nemesis Enforcer appeared in some form in the GI Joe movie, right? Granted, the movie isn't the comics, but who knows how Hasbro plans to spin these. It is fun trying to guess though.

Stygian
12-26-2007, 07:30 PM
just was thinkin' that the only thing that really bums me out about this list (if True) is that it's a missed opportunity to do some of the great "Comics Only" characters ~ Dr. Venom, Billy, Kwinn, and Grunt in Dress Uniform come to mind...

This is a good point, but virtually unknown characters (outside the comics that is) narrows your market appeal tremendously. Think about it; you're Hasbro trying to sell as many toys as possible (meaning, get the young kids and the adult collectors) while also not alienating your older diehard Joe collectors. You're almost between a rock and...well, you know. You want to sell lots of toys- mostly well known or easily identified core characters- and also sneak in a few of the lesser knowns to appeal to the adults who grew up with Joes in the 80's. I say the larger audience appeal will tend to win most times.

artiepants
12-26-2007, 07:35 PM
This is a good point, but virtually unknown characters (outside the comics that is) narrows your market appeal tremendously. Think about it; you're Hasbro trying to sell as many toys as possible (meaning, get the young kids and the adult collectors) while also not alienating your older diehard Joe collectors. You're almost between a rock and...well, you know. You want to sell lots of toys- mostly well known or easily identified core characters- and also sneak in a few of the lesser knowns to appeal to the adults who grew up with Joes in the 80's. I say the larger audience appeal will tend to win most times.
but are any of those really LESS obscure than Copperhead, Nemesis Enforcer and Red Star? heck, even Tripwire? the comics were selling in the millions back then, i think most folks know those characters...

Me, I'd be about pairing your obscure ones with your core guys ~ Major Blood with General Flagg, Storm Shadow with Billy, Snake-Eyes with either Kwinn or Dr. Venom...

Steevy Maximus
12-26-2007, 09:53 PM
just was thinkin' that the only thing that really bums me out about this list (if True) is that it's a missed opportunity to do some of the great "Comics Only" characters ~ Dr. Venom, Billy, Kwinn,
One of the big issues with these characters is that many would require FAR more unique tooling than any of the figures on the list.

Star Wars gets around this issue by cutting articulation on most of these "one time wonders", but Joe fans are so obsesssive about articulation, Hasbro would likely get a fairly significant backlash if they tried it with Joe.

tkprime
12-26-2007, 10:52 PM
could cobra commando be invasor?

Snakefox
12-28-2007, 05:10 AM
duke and redstar are the star brigade versions. see issue# 147. both will use ace's mold.

Gentleman
12-28-2007, 07:36 AM
could cobra commando be invasor?

Y'know, I thought about that as well.

That would certainly kick some MAJOR ass, wouldn't it?

granted, it's another Snake Eyes mold repaint... but that Cobra sigil does marvels!

Derek2783
12-28-2007, 10:29 PM
duke and redstar are the star brigade versions. see issue# 147. both will use ace's mold.

Duke... and Redstar.... Star Brigade versions... Of ALL the rumors out, I sincerely hope THAT one isn't true!!! I'd rather have a third SE/SS two pack!!!!!

Irid70
12-28-2007, 11:36 PM
duke and redstar are the star brigade versions. see issue# 147. both will use ace's mold.

I try not to overreact to the idea of releases I don't like. I really do. Especially when they are still squarely in the rumor stage.

But I think I taste bile.

If there were a vomiting emoticon, I'd use it now.

DarthBrett
12-29-2007, 12:40 AM
These are all rumors, though, so don't spew out any stomach acid and dinner just yet now!!

xFlintx
12-29-2007, 01:10 AM
All I can say if comic packs get us more characters, all the better.

As for Nemesis Enforcer, well if any CObra La has to get the treatment at least it's the coolest one. I'm no Fan of Cobra la but NEmesis is ppretty badass.

Nemesis*Prime
12-29-2007, 01:30 AM
I think that the "COBRA COMMANDO" is really Invasor from Brazil. They already made Satan from Argentina as the Cobra Red Ninja.

For that matter it could be COBRA Mortal then for all we know. Mortal's certainly had more of a presence in the fan community since '06 and his MC con figure. And, he's another SE repaint. Unlike Invasor which is SE's head and Flash's body.

Gentleman
12-29-2007, 01:34 AM
Unlike Invasor which is SE's head and Flash's body.

Actually, that'd be "Cobra de Aco" from Brazil. Cobra Invasor looks exactly like the original commando SE, except for the addition of a silver Cobra sigil!

Stygian
12-29-2007, 09:47 AM
I try not to overreact to the idea of releases I don't like. I really do. Especially when they are still squarely in the rumor stage.

Thank you for saying this! Speculation is definitely fun, but I sense many of us are starting to take this rumored list as gospel. One person even stated that certain molds will be used for various figures. How could anyone but Hasbro insiders know this at this stage? Anyway...

The Commander
12-29-2007, 09:54 AM
These are all rumors, though, so don't spew out any stomach acid and dinner just yet now!!

Wow, graphic AND funny!

Gentleman
12-29-2007, 02:27 PM
Thank you for saying this! Speculation is definitely fun, but I sense many of us are starting to take this rumored list as gospel. One person even stated that certain molds will be used for various figures. How could anyone but Hasbro insiders know this at this stage? Anyway...

Oh don't worry, Hasbro would never use the Wild Bill/ Ace mold for both Star Brigade Duke & Red Star for the SAME comic pack :p



BTW, I was gonna suggest that maybe Tripwire and Major Bludd will be sharing the same chest :p ...maybe even the legs. For sure, they could definitely use Flash's forearms for Tripwire!

...but then decided against it. Too far into the future and, like Yoda says, "always in motion the future is" ;)