KWINN: It only makes sense

[foxtrot27]

It only makes sense that Hasbro place Kwinn in next year's SDCC. Given the fact that he was in the comic universe and that he appeared in the arctic and jungle can make for a good reason to make a variant. As much as I would love to have him now, I would prefer him on a 25th style card. The card art would be fantastic. All the parts are available to make the arctic variant. I would think that the ROC arctic Duke is well suited for this. Just add the Kwinn head and the 30 cal. and the skull necklace. But more then likely the SDCC figure for next year has probably been in chosen already.

[dewrag]

13th subscription figure from the club :)

[cobraEdaco]

It only makes sence that Hasbro place Kwinn in next year's SDCC. Given the fact that he was in the comic universe and that he appeared in the arctic and jungle can make for a good reason to make a variant. As much as I would love to have him now, I would prefer him on a 25th style card. The card art would be fantastic. All the parts are available to make the arctic variant. I would think that the ROC arctic Duke is well suited for this. Just add the Kwinn head and the 30 cal. and the skull necklace. But more then likely the SDCC figure for next year has probably been in chosen already.

Yes, I think this is the case as well. I've stated that in a few other threads. We shall see. Probably won't know till Toy Fare 2013.

[The Commander]

13th subscription figure from the club :)

Nah, not happening with the club.

I vote either SDCC exclusives OR Kwinn vs zombie pack!

[CobraOfficer999]

It should be Either at the National Con or in stores.

[cobraEdaco]

Nah, not happening with the club.

I vote either SDCC exclusives OR Kwinn vs zombie pack!

That would be really cool and I'm kinda sick of Zombies, but that sounds awesome!

[Raw Dog]

I think it makes more sense to release him as part of the Retaliation line in 2013. After seeing Retaliation, I think kids will be pretty jazzed for GI Joe toys and Kwinn has a pretty distinctive look I think kids will gravitate toward. Plus, I want 2 of him and would rather not pay exclusive prices for him.

[theprocess]

This thread makes no "sense"

[The Commander]

This thread makes no "sense"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7d84i1hpG1ql5d5t.jpg

[psb81]

I definitely think he would pegwarm if ever released at retail..so SDCC exclusive would be a good move.

If I get that sweet Zombie Cobra Commander and his minions in a multipack I'd even be happy for those who want Kwinn if they threw him in there as the Joe adversary.

[cobraEdaco]

This thread makes no "sense"

I was thinking it, but didn't say anything.....

[Raw Dog]

I don't think he would peg warm. I think he would sell as briskly as Shadow Tracker or any other "new" character Hasbro has put out over the last several years. Peg warmers IMO tend to be new versions of previously released characters like Arctic Destro, Renegades Scarlet and Renegades Firefly. New characters like Sky Dive, Law, and Sci Fi do quite well from what I have empirically observed.

[Jay West]

Nah, not happening with the club.

I vote either SDCC exclusives OR Kwinn vs zombie pack!

Especially not as the 13th figure. That makes Kwinn pretty exclusive and hard to get for some fans, and hasbro has been promising him pretty hard to the fans as a whole. If he comes out in that limited of a fashion, I think Hasbro HQ gets stormed by angry fanboys!

[skinny]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/VoteKwinn2012/331913250230555

[Jay West]

I don't think he would peg warm. I think he would sell as briskly as Shadow Tracker or any other "new" character Hasbro has put out over the last several years. Peg warmers IMO tend to be new versions of previously released characters like Arctic Destro, Renegades Scarlet and Renegades Firefly. New characters like Sky Dive, Law, and Sci Fi do quite well from what I have empirically observed.

I think it depends on the case allotment and availability. If he is overshipped to retail then there is a chance of pegwarming, but in today's Joe retail world the chance of him being overshipped to retail are pretty slim so I think he sells well.

I just don't think he's coming to retail as a single figure. I'd love to see him on a 25th style card somehow.

[turner]

Parts don't already exist for arctic kwinn. So far they just do repaints for the exclusive variant except for Jinxs head.

[psb81]

I don't think he would peg warm. I think he would sell as briskly as Shadow Tracker or any other "new" character Hasbro has put out over the last several years. Peg warmers IMO tend to be new versions of previously released characters like Arctic Destro, Renegades Scarlet and Renegades Firefly. New characters like Sky Dive, Law, and Sci Fi do quite well from what I have empirically observed.

Who knows, I just don't think kids would ever pick out an asian guy in cargo shorts if they were in the aisle. Shadow Tracker was a brightly colored guy with dreads and a freaky mask, total kid bait.

[Troops of Doom]

Retail please, so the rest of us can get him.

[cmderinchief]

Nah, not happening with the club.

I vote either SDCC exclusives OR Kwinn vs zombie pack!

Christ Marc, you wound me...Kwinn and Zombies....*smh*

He's going mainline release. And VOTE KWINN!

Vote Kwinn 2012!! (http://www.votekwinn2012.com)

[MonkeyBoyZ]

Who knows, I just don't think kids would ever pick out an asian guy in cargo shorts if they were in the aisle. Shadow Tracker was a brightly colored guy with dreads and a freaky mask, total kid bait.

I thought Kwinn was Inuit? And Shadow Tracker was adult bait, for me at least.

[Mapleleaf]

Christ Marc, you wound me...Kwinn and Zombies....*smh*

He's going mainline release. And VOTE KWINN!

Vote Kwinn 2012!! (http://www.votekwinn2012.com)

I'm in total agreement. Has to be a main line release. In posts on other forums I have myself linked Kwinn to the zombie vipers but only as a catalyst for others personal collections. I would not repeat NOT want to see him in a pack of zombie vipers. Mainline all the way!

[The Commander]

Christ Marc, you wound me...Kwinn and Zombies....*smh*

He's going mainline release. And VOTE KWINN!

Vote Kwinn 2012!! (http://www.votekwinn2012.com)

that is why i WON'T vote for Kwinn...he's coming out, it's a wasted vote so I'd rather cast my vote for something that is more 'on the fence' than Kwinn

[Raw Dog]

I think it depends on the case allotment and availability. If he is overshipped to retail then there is a chance of pegwarming, but in today's Joe retail world the chance of him being overshipped to retail are pretty slim so I think he sells well.

I just don't think he's coming to retail as a single figure. I'd love to see him on a 25th style card somehow.

If Hasbro only ships Kwinn figures in 2013 then he'll probably peg warm, lol. I think he'll most likely ship 1 per case. Of course, I'm just speculating. I have no real idea what is going to happen.

Who knows, I just don't think kids would ever pick out an asian guy in cargo shorts if they were in the aisle. Shadow Tracker was a brightly colored guy with dreads and a freaky mask, total kid bait.

I hear you bro, but I disagree. I think Kwinn is as visually interesting as Low Light, Sci Fi, Lifeline, and any other new character that hasn't peg warmed during the Modern Era of Joe.

He's the only Joe with shorts, comes with awesome gear, and has a bad ass necklace of skulls. Kids will go ape-shit over him.

[fireflyguy]

I'm really not that big on Kwinn. The original marvel run is my Joeverse, but I'm not a comet it's, so it doesn't matter to me if he gets released or not, but, yes, I think it makes most sense to release him at SDCC with a variant that would be easy for Hasbro to make.

[Mermaniel]

I was sure it would be this years. It would make hella sense.

[bitetheasp]

Kwinn head on 25th Arctic Snake Eyes.

Boom. Arctic Kwinn. [/Bill Tull]

[cmderinchief]

that is why i WON'T vote for Kwinn...he's coming out, it's a wasted vote so I'd rather cast my vote for something that is more 'on the fence' than Kwinn

You wound me again...and after I let you sleep with James Kavanaugh.

[This I Command!]

Parts don't already exist for arctic kwinn. So far they just do repaints for the exclusive variant except for Jinxs head.

This is mostly true, but the Sgt. Slaughters had significant differences in sculpt and accessories, so it's not unheard of they would switch it up a little for Kwinn. Especially if all the tooling for the arctic version was pre-existing.


....
Zombies:

As for all this talk of Zombie crap...why? Asides from the fact that apparently the US has caught Zombie fever the last 2 years, the figures shown at con while nice looking made virtually no sense. They weren't like Toxo-Zombies or troops that had been experimented on, they were well established characters like Cobra Commander, just zombiefied. But asides from having virtually no reason for existing, what relation would they have to Kwinn whatsoever?

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Kwinn at retail:

The reality of this figure is that if he is produced in quantities greater than 1 per case, he IS going to pegwarm. I'm as a big a Kwinn fan as anybody here, but he has no "flair". He is basic looking guy wearing a bland khaki suit, with no cool weapons, helmet, nothing. He hasn't been in any cartoons, movies, or video games, so in short...kids aren't gonna want him/care. I think the best thing they could do with this figure if they don't go with the SDCC variants idea (which I like by the way) would be to include him in either a multi-pack, or as a driver/pack-in to a small vehicle or playset.

[Xenos]

Nah, not happening with the club.


A few months ago I would have agreed completely, but then Hasbro let the club use Kwinn's body to make most of Footloose, and now I'm not so sure. I could actually see him being the headliner of the FSS 2 kind of like Big Boa is for the first series.

If not that, I think that SDCC just makes all kind of sense for Kwinn. (a) he's not a super well known character, (b) he's only from the comic, so he fits in with "comic" con, (c) he's not the most kid friendly figure hasbro has come up with, and (d) he's one of the last unmade characters that the hard core fans will loose there minds over (which is obviously what Hasbro has been aiming for with the last three SDCC's).

[Jinx723]

Ah, f**k it!
I am so sick of Hasbro's $#!+ regarding Kwinn. If Hasbro wanted to they would have told us when Kwinn's being release. As much as I blame Hasbro it's really Paramount's fault we haven't gotten our favorite Inuit (Eskimo). If he every gets released fine, but if he ends up being some exclusive, well F**K YOU, Hasbro.

[Raw Dog]

I don't realistically see Kwinn getting more than 1 slot per case, but disagree with the assertion that he would peg warm if he got 2 slots per case. I think he is interesting enough for kids to buy up whatever Kwinns don't get purchased by adults, customizers, and scalpers.

[Jmacq1]

I don't realistically see Kwinn getting more than 1 slot per case, but disagree with the assertion that he would peg warm if he got 2 slots per case. I think he is interesting enough for kids to buy up whatever Kwinns don't get purchased by adults, customizers, and scalpers.

One per case, two per case...if Kwinn shipped in quantities akin to late PoC/30th anniversary collection, he wouldn't pegwarm at all and many people would complain about not being able to find him at retail in the first place.

If he shipped in RoC numbers he'd pegwarm. From what I can see, if he ships in Retaliation numbers he'll be OK if he's one per case (which let's be honest folks...he's gonna be one per case).

I'd be pissed as hell if he's made a SDCC exclusive. I managed to luck out and score a pink Zarana last year in the less-than-five-minute window on HTS, but I've been SOL on Slaughter and Jinx, and Kwinn is a figure I'd want more than either of those two combined.

[Raw Dog]

One per case, two per case...if Kwinn shipped in quantities akin to late PoC/30th anniversary collection, he wouldn't pegwarm at all and many people would complain about not being able to find him at retail in the first place.I
If he shipped in RoC numbers he'd pegwarm. From what I can see, if he ships in Retaliation numbers he'll be OK if he's one per case (which let's be honest folks...he's gonna be one per case).

I'd be pissed as hell if he's made a SDCC exclusive. I managed to luck out and score a pink Zarana last year in the less-than-five-minute window on HTS, but I've been SOL on Slaughter and Jinx, and Kwinn is a figure I'd want more than either of those two combined.

Right, well if he peg warms because too many figures period get shipped then yeah he'll peg warm, cuz like everyone is going to peg warm.

What I'm saying, and I think we're agreeing here, is that if he's like 1 or 2 figures per case, and if retailers don't over order cases, then he'll sell through at retail.

[MSU44]

would love to see kwinn, snake eyes, dr venom three pack....but really wanna see him at retail.

[Hawkeye]

Everyone thought that he was going to be the figure this year.

Look how well that turned out.

It's anybodies guess if and when we'll see him.

[Xerofall]

Kwinn, Dr. Venom, issue 15 comic two pack... 'nuff said.

[dewrag]

I like the Kwinn vs. Zombies 7 pack Idea :)

[bitetheasp]

would love to see kwinn, snake eyes, dr venom three pack....but really wanna see him at retail.
7-pack!

Kwinn, Dr. Venom, Scar-Face, Snake Eyes, Major Bludd, General Flagg, Doc

[cmderinchief]

Kwinn Supporters!:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/testing-grounds-spam-o-rama/251715-gijoe-concept-vault-madness-2012-ninja-warrior-monk-vs-kwinn-poll.html

[The Commander]

I like the Kwinn vs. Zombies 7 pack Idea :)

I know great idea right? Who was it that thought of that? :D

[CrocPotMaster]

It doesn't matter if you know who he is, he's basically an Eskimo Shadow Tracker if you don't. Kwinn would sell to everyone just because of how awesome he is. A Kwinn vs. Nanook of the North 2 pack would be my vote :)

[Stuart_Selkirk]

How awesome he is?
He has nothing about him that shouts ESKIMO! (If he had, he'd be a second Arctic Snake Eyes)
He looks khaki from head to toe and wears shorts.
My only incentive to pick him up would be his gear for customizing and to finally get suitable parts for a Rhodesian custom figure.
That's it.
You've got to be pretty deep into GI Joe to even have heard about this guy.

[CrocPotMaster]

How awesome he is?
He has nothing about him that shouts ESKIMO! (If he had, he'd be a second Arctic Snake Eyes)
He looks khaki from head to toe and wears shorts.
My only incentive to pick him up would be his gear for customizing and to finally get suitable parts for a Rhodesian custom figure.
That's it.
You've got to be pretty deep into GI Joe to even have heard about this guy.

Eh, Diff'rent Strokes. I've never heard of him outside of the figure (I've looked him up since, of course), and I;ve wanted one since the moment I saw him. It may be due to the rarity and likelihood of production, though; I'm a sucker for anything Limited Edition.

[bitetheasp]

He became a friend of Snake Eyes. Surprised he hasn't had at least 5 figures already.

[Jmacq1]

Right, well if he peg warms because too many figures period get shipped then yeah he'll peg warm, cuz like everyone is going to peg warm.

What I'm saying, and I think we're agreeing here, is that if he's like 1 or 2 figures per case, and if retailers don't over order cases, then he'll sell through at retail.

Right.

For the folks saying "Kids/nobody knows him because he's so obscure" I'd just note most kids don't know any of the G.I. Joe characters we've gotten over the last few years, especially if they're not named "Duke, Cobra Commander, Snake-Eyes, or Storm-Shadow."

Didn't stop most all of them from selling out (particularly given small production runs).

[MrClean]

Why would anyone want a most requested fan figure as an SDCC exclusive? Do people actually like hitting their F5 key for days only to end up on eBay paying 5x the price for it? Because I've yet to see anyone fitting that description.

[cobraEdaco]

Why would anyone want a most requested fan figure as an SDCC exclusive? Do people actually like hitting their F5 key for days only to end up on eBay paying 5x the price for it? Because I've yet to see anyone fitting that description.

I don't think people want to see it happen, but it's makes a lot of sense.

[WVMojo]

Dear Hasbro - this figure needs a bigger audience than SDCC. So we don't have to F5 for nothing.

[EduardimusPrime]

Quinn looks boring... If he was a ninja or a zombie, he'd be a winner.

[Konigstiger]

suitable parts for a Rhodesian custom figure.


That was my main use for him, Rhodesian SAS/Light Infantry/Selous Scouts. Falcone is finally providing a great FAL and the Kwinn buck was gonna be nice to have. I imagine he would have made British WWII tropical figures possible, too.

I'm still convinced he'll be the exclussive for SDCC '13.

[kingphilbert]

Kwinn head on 25th Arctic Snake Eyes.

Boom. Arctic Kwinn. [/Bill Tull]

I can't see any current arctic body matching the body build for the Kwinn we've been shown. He's gonna be a bigger figure. I am down for him, and would love to see him released at retail, or as an online exclusive. I think it would be cool if he was packed in with Retaliation figure on a retro classic card the same way the Cobra packaged CC was slipped in with PoC figures. In the end though my fingers are crossed for the 30th wave or 30th exclusive packs.

[foxtrot27]

ahhhh lets see hit F5 key for 4 days straight or just pay $45 on ebay................. yep. I'll pay $45 and be done with it.

[bitetheasp]

I can't see any current arctic body matching the body build for the Kwinn we've been shown. He's gonna be a bigger figure. I am down for him, and would love to see him released at retail, or as an online exclusive. I think it would be cool if he was packed in with Retaliation figure on a retro classic card the same way the Cobra packaged CC was slipped in with PoC figures. In the end though my fingers are crossed for the 30th wave or 30th exclusive packs.
I. Said. BOOM.

[cmderinchief]

I know great idea right? Who was it that thought of that? :D

This idiot guy I know...what a rube!

[super curry max]

Fuck this idea and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

Kwinn better come to retail in some fashion.

[speedlgt]

this is a stupid character that i dont understand why the community cares so much about.

there are at least 10 real american hero figs I think we would be better off with

[fearthehoss75]

Kwinn is kinda an anti hero which i personally like. Also i could sadly see them throwing the new head sculpt on a horror show from this years con and changing the colors... very cheap way to make that variant.

[cmderinchief]

this is a stupid character that i dont understand why the community cares so much about.

there are at least 10 real american hero figs I think we would be better off with

True, true, but when one those fans is a VP at Hasbro, things happen and figures get produced.

[turner]

Kwinn got more time and character development than a pile of the joes in the marvel run. They must release kwinn.

[Saboteur]

Don't worry. You'll see Kwinn in some form, eventually, finally, at long last, it's here,before the world ends in flame, tears and misery----if it's the last thing Depriest ever does!!!

COBRA!!!

[drunknmunky]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet (I'm too lazy to read 6 pages) but every SDCC figure has been reused in some way. This year Jinx is the exclusive and the mold will be used on the yellow retail version. Last year Zarana was reused to make Zanya. The problem i see with Kwinn is they have to make 3 versions (regular, variant, retail). What 3 ways could they repaint him? Plus Hasbro would basically have an entire mold that can't really be used to produce other figures. He's wearing flip flops and shorts for cryin out loud.

[krisk]

13th subscription figure from the club :)

could you imagine the hate that would cause!?!?!

[bitetheasp]

Kwinn got more time and character development than a pile of the joes in the marvel run. They must release kwinn.
More than 95% in fact...

[vermillion21]

So what's the status of Kwinn? Did Hasbro release an official statement or indicate at a convention if and when they'll be releasing him?

[Xerofall]

Why did you need to bump three threads to ask?

[vermillion21]

Just covering all the bases ...

[Joebern28]

So what's the status of Kwinn? Did Hasbro release an official statement or indicate at a convention if and when they'll be releasing him?

I agree. I've asked a few times and it's either been lost in the shuffle or everyone hates me. .................hello? damnit, again?!

I was a big fan of the comics, actually have the entire run of comicdom, and really liked Kwinns character.

I agree with whoever said it earlier, I can do without all the zombie stuff. I was never one to jump on the vampire/werewolf bandwagon(whether they sparkle or not), but the whole zombie fad is getting old. Granted the one that was released was very unique and alot of thought went into it, but just not my cup o' tea. Kwinn actually has a basis in my world of Joedom. As well as Billy, I really hope we get both of them sometime in the near future.

[TTT]

Zombie Kwinn !

[emags]

Could Kwinn be a NYCC exclusive? I thought Hasbro said there would be 1 this year, but since then it has been radio silent as far as I know.

[ChaplainAsst]

Could Kwinn be a NYCC exclusive? I thought Hasbro said there would be 1 this year, but since then it has been radio silent as far as I know.

They actually said there would be no Hasbro presence at the NYCC this year. The closest thing is likely to be just at free figure give away at the Marvel Digital Subscription booth. They said they are only doing one major convention a year because of the expense. I assume that excludes ToyFair, as that is more of an expo for retail stores.

[Jmacq1]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet (I'm too lazy to read 6 pages) but every SDCC figure has been reused in some way. This year Jinx is the exclusive and the mold will be used on the yellow retail version. Last year Zarana was reused to make Zanya. The problem i see with Kwinn is they have to make 3 versions (regular, variant, retail). What 3 ways could they repaint him? Plus Hasbro would basically have an entire mold that can't really be used to produce other figures. He's wearing flip flops and shorts for cryin out loud.

Waaay overdue response, but according to Hasbro this question is irrelevant as they've already created the tooling for Kwinn. So they've already got the mold, regardless.

[vermillion21]

They actually said there would be no Hasbro presence at the NYCC this year. ... They said they are only doing one major convention a year because of the expense.

Ok cool, now I don't have the stress about picking up the NYCC TF exclusive this year. Thanks for the intel.

[Crimson Rage]

SDCC would be ideal, as I wouldn't mind missing this guy at all. The people who clamour for Kwinn to get a retail release seem to have no clue just how marginal he is.

[Steelgrave]

I definitely think he would pegwarm if ever released at retail...



Pegwarm? You still have stores in your area that actually stock action figures???

[ChaplainAsst]

SDCC would be ideal, as I wouldn't mind missing this guy at all. The people who clamour for Kwinn to get a retail release seem to have no clue just how marginal he is.

"Marginal" only if you don't read the comics or don't care for them. They have even used Kwinn in the most recent IDW comics - both ARAH and the newer iteration. If you are a Sunbow fan or just like the toys, you might not get Kwinn. Having grown up in the 80s and read the comics as they were coming out, I get it.

"Marginal" might better be used for characters like Bombstrike, who I can't recall ever being used in any media except a brief mention in DDP. She was listed MIA even on her filecard! A character like Grand Slam - who is often indistinguishable from Flash in the comics - has two figures but was certainly marginal in the comics (he punched out Bludd once) or cartoon. Thunder has had a figure made in ME, yet was marginal at best. Same with Crankcase and Heavy Metal. Even Charbroil has a figure, but I can't recall him being significant in the Joe mythos.

So, a character that appeared in roughly 10 issues of the comic and has a current appearance is "marginal" yet RoC and 25th often filled slots with marginal characters and the past has shown that "marginal" doesn't even begin to describe other characters that Hasbro has made figures.

[Crimson Rage]

"Marginal" only if you don't read the comics or don't care for them. They have even used Kwinn in the most recent IDW comics - both ARAH and the newer iteration. If you are a Sunbow fan or just like the toys, you might not get Kwinn.

Yep, very big fan of the early Marvel comics... and stand by my comment. In the grand scheme of things, Kwinn is a nobody. No point bringing up other characters to show how Kwinn is "bigger" because I think the ones you name are marginal too.

[vermillion21]

My understanding is that since Hasbro already has a completed mold of him, why NOT release him already?

[Jmacq1]

Yep, very big fan of the early Marvel comics... and stand by my comment. In the grand scheme of things, Kwinn is a nobody. No point bringing up other characters to show how Kwinn is "bigger" because I think the ones you name are marginal too.

So what you're saying is we need more Dukes, Cobra Commanders, Destros, Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadows, and other "non-marginal" characters, right? Because if Kwinn qualifies as a "nobody" so does about 80-90 percent of the Joe team. Probably about 40 percent of Cobra's "named characters" too (primarily later-era Dreadnoks and "New Sculpt" era characters).

The point being addressed is that plenty of "marginal" characters have hit shelves and sold just fine. There's little reason to believe that short of massively overpacking cases with him (unlikely at best) that Kwinn wouldn't do just as well as any of the others over the past several years.

[emags]

They actually said there would be no Hasbro presence at the NYCC this year. The closest thing is likely to be just at free figure give away at the Marvel Digital Subscription booth. They said they are only doing one major convention a year because of the expense. I assume that excludes ToyFair, as that is more of an expo for retail stores.

Thanks, but I thought in January 2012 at the Toy Show in NYC (I believe) Hasbro showed a picture of the upcoming figures and there was a box that said NYCC. Some people thought it may have been a version of Lady Jaye b/c the box was above (or below) a pic of Lady Jaye from the movie.

Do you remember that too?

Did that all change with the movie getting pushed back? I have not seen anything said about NYCC in awhile, so I may be out of date.

[teemu8]

Yep, very big fan of the early Marvel comics... and stand by my comment. In the grand scheme of things, Kwinn is a nobody. No point bringing up other characters to show how Kwinn is "bigger" because I think the ones you name are marginal too.

Exactly,Kwinn is a Nobody and especially for a SDCC Exclusive.

We got Slaughter,Zarana,and Jinx...so lets keep the Classic ARAH characters coming

[vermillion21]

How about Iceberg for the next SDCC 2013 exclusive??

[Jmacq1]

How about Iceberg for the next SDCC 2013 exclusive??

He's the next Joe Club membership figure.

[netkid]

They should make Kwinn and Data Viper the next 2 ToysRus exclusives for the Retaliation line.

Hell, they could've done that during the 30th run.

Hopefully when they ever do come out, they are not a pain in the ass to obtain.

[Headman]

I vote no Kwinn ever until I get Cesspool, Headman, Gristle, Headhunters, Static-line, Dee-Jay, Golobulus, Reggie Bush and Sgt Savage.

[paraviper]

They should make Kwinn and Data Viper the next 2 ToysRus exclusives for the Retaliation line.

Hell, they could've done that during the 30th run.

Hopefully when they ever do come out, they are not a pain in the ass to obtain.

The trouble is ToysRus has to want the exclusives. They said no to Having a 30th Night Boomer. My hope is that with this being a movie year we'll see exclusives this time. I'm sure we won't see anything until Toy fair.

[ChaplainAsst]

Thanks, but I thought in January 2012 at the Toy Show in NYC (I believe) Hasbro showed a picture of the upcoming figures and there was a box that said NYCC. Some people thought it may have been a version of Lady Jaye b/c the box was above (or below) a pic of Lady Jaye from the movie.

Do you remember that too?

Did that all change with the movie getting pushed back? I have not seen anything said about NYCC in awhile, so I may be out of date.

Yes, the Old Man Logan figure. He is being distributed via the Marvel Digital Subscription - you subscribe, you get the figure.

They have said that due to costs that they will only be attending one event per year, and SDCC is it. Now, obviously, that doesn't include BotCon or JoeCon or likely ToyFair, but that's what they said at SDCC.

[ChaplainAsst]

Yep, very big fan of the early Marvel comics... and stand by my comment. In the grand scheme of things, Kwinn is a nobody. No point bringing up other characters to show how Kwinn is "bigger" because I think the ones you name are marginal too.

So who isn't marginal? CC? SE? Duke? Roadblock - because God knows we will get plenty of his figures next year!

Major Bludd was often marginal in every format. Zartan was often marginal. Duke was in the Marvel run a marginal character until near the end of the run. Even Firefly was completely marginal in every format until Marvel suddenly made him a ninja. Same with Scrap Iron - he had a small role in the Serpentor mini-series as CC's henchman, but virtually nothing in the comic. I bring these characters up because they are core characters for many folks.

What's the difference? They were introduced and re-introduced throughout the series because they were not killed off. On the other hand, Dr. Venom, General Flagg and Kwinn were killed and yet they haunted the Marvel run. (Mentions of all three permeate the comics - from CC mentioning how Venom's contribution led to Serpentor to the USS Flagg to Stalker asking if the 30 mm canon in SE's secret lair belonged to Kwinn.)

You could make the same argument that Ripcord was marginal. If you only had Sunbow, I would agree. But in the comics, his story was THE story for around 10 comics. But his figure was cool and his story was realistic and people remember this. In the same way, this is true of Kwinn as well.

[ero]

It only makes sense that Hasbro place Kwinn in next year's SDCC. Given the fact that he was in the comic universe and that he appeared in the arctic and jungle can make for a good reason to make a variant. As much as I would love to have him now, I would prefer him on a 25th style card. The card art would be fantastic. All the parts are available to make the arctic variant. I would think that the ROC arctic Duke is well suited for this. Just add the Kwinn head and the 30 cal. and the skull necklace. But more then likely the SDCC figure for next year has probably been in chosen already.

We'll get both. I hope they're not the SDCC though. Either figure could sell well on its own at retail. I'm hoping for a movie-year TRU exclusive.

[vermillion21]

He's the next Joe Club membership figure.

^ FAWK. Damned club.

... Kwinn and Data Viper ...
Hopefully when they ever do come out, they are not a pain in the ass to obtain.

^ Amen brotha!!!

[Davestro]

I like the Comic 2-pack idea with Dr. Venom. Those two were mortal enemies in the Marvel Comic. They could do another version with v2 Stalker in arctic gear for the arctic Kwinn with Marvel Issue #2.

I miss the two-packs :(

[bitetheasp]

Exactly,Kwinn is a Nobody and especially for a SDCC Exclusive.

We got Slaughter,Zarana,and Jinx...so lets keep the Classic ARAH characters coming
So the comic fans get the finger?

[vermillion21]

I like the Comic 2-pack idea with Dr. Venom. Those two were mortal enemies in the Marvel Comic.

^ Great idea!!!

[Headman]

So the comic fans get the finger?

I feel bad for comic fans being cheated out of great characters like Kwinn and Candy Apple. And Candy Apple's fat dad.

[turner]

I feel bad for comic fans being cheated out of great characters like Kwinn and Candy Apple. And Candy Apple's fat dad.

Personally, I would love that.

[Steevy Maximus]

I think at this point, with the state the Joe line is in at retail, I would NOT at all be surprised if Hasbro just pushed Kwinn through SDCC just to get him out there.

He's been circling the release slate for over a year and a half now, and with Retaliation being the core focus NEXT year, I don't see a spot for him next year either.
I think it will end up SDCC 2013 or he's going to continue circling the slate for another year or two.

[ero]

Exactly,Kwinn is a Nobody and especially for a SDCC Exclusive.

We got Slaughter,Zarana,and Jinx...so lets keep the Classic ARAH characters coming

I'm not a big fan of the comics, but one thing that's great about the modern era is Hasbro's willingness to deliver accurate versions of characters from the comics and the cartoon. I want comics fans to get their Kwinn just as much as I want Cobra-La.

[bitetheasp]

Heady, I would love a Professor Appel and Bongo the Bear two-pack.

[atomatron]

NYCC exclusive

[fearthehoss75]

Word on the street is no joes at nycc...

[GI Flow]

^ Great idea!!!
I concur
I feel bad for comic fans being cheated out of great characters like Kwinn and Candy Apple. And Candy Apple's fat dad.

Heady, I would love a Professor Appel and Bongo the Bear two-pack.
I'd buy that
I think at this point, with the state the Joe line is in at retail, I would NOT at all be surprised if Hasbro just pushed Kwinn through SDCC just to get him out there.

He's been circling the release slate for over a year and a half now, and with Retaliation being the core focus NEXT year, I don't see a spot for him next year either.
I think it will end up SDCC 2013 or he's going to continue circling the slate for another year or two.


I'm not a big fan of the comics, but one thing that's great about the modern era is Hasbro's willingness to deliver accurate versions of characters from the comics and the cartoon. I want comics fans to get their Kwinn just as much as I want Cobra-La.
I'd buy comic or cartoon based figures. SDCC, retail or online exclusive.

[Headman]

Heady, I would love a Professor Appel and Bongo the Bear two-pack.

I think Fat Apple has more mainstream appeal than Kwinn.

[vermillion21]

Still want Kwinn released please.

[psb81]

As someone who never read the comics and collects Joes solely based on growing up with the cartoons I hope Hasbro makes him the SDCC exclusive. That way I don't have to worry about ever getting him.

What a boring figure. If he's ever released at retail he'll pegwarm worse then anything we have ever seen.

[DR.Sin]

I HATE SDCC exclusives!!!!

Make the figure, release him to stores. That is all I want, "period."

I don't want to see more figures at such a high price from conventions and I will wait for anything released to retail or in wave cases. If Hasbro doesn't want to listen and be reasonable, then I guess they don't want my business. It's all about the money after all.

[vermillion21]

I HATE SDCC exclusives!!!!

Make the figure, release him to stores. That is all I want, "period."



^ Amen brotha amen!!