What do You Feel Hasbro Should Do With The Core Characters Poll.

[CobraOfficer999]

Personally, I think they should give them a rest and not produce any more versions of Duke, SS, Destro, Etc. for the next few years. I would rather get a redone character who's hardly seen the light of day, like Salvo, for example, as well as totally new characters like Kwinn released.
But, tell me: what do you think?
A. Give the Core Characters a rest and produce new characters and hardly released ones.
B. Keep producing the core characters.
Or
C.You don't care as long as articulation is kept at 30th levels.

[Colder Soldier]

I feel they should stop making new versions of most over-produced characters. Instead they should put one package refresh of the best versions of said characters in each and every other case.

Example:

Fictional GIJ w5 '12
-Flint x2
-Lady Jaye x2
-Heat- Viper x2
-Laser-Viper x2
-Steel Brigade Delta x2
-Renegades Storm Shadow x1
-Snake Eyes (POC w3) x1

^Pretty much the jist of what I think should be done with the overproduced core characters. Maybe in the next wave or revision case it would have the best Duke instead of SE, etc.

[Jinx723]

Asking Hasbro to stop producing the core characters is like asking them to stop making Wolverine, Iron Man and Spiderman from Marvel Universe figures, it's just not going to happen. Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow is a given especially with Movies, 'Cartoons' tied to them. As for the core characters they should release one figure of each once a year and that's it. The core being released every wave is what's killing the line. Hasbro might not want to give Collectors what they want but in reality we're the only ones buying the stuff.

Plan and simple, release what we want (not all at once) and brick and mortars will see the sales, and might have some faith in the brand again. Funny how during the 25th/ME sales were fine, not great but they were selling. It's been all down hill since ROC.

[cobratrooperlui]

I don't think Hasbro should stop producing the core characters but maybe not make a different version of them in every wave. I would like to see more of the ARAH line of characters that haven't been made yet get produced.

[nerdsgetchicks]

I don't think Hasbro should stop producing the core characters but maybe not make a different version of them in every wave. I would like to see more of the ARAH line of characters that haven't been made yet get produced.

I agree. I love the core figures!

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[Jefehawk]

I agree..just one version of the cores in each round and then work on other figures like we saw in the 80's 90's..

[Ruin]

I think the Core Figures should be hiatus'ed for a year or so.

[VideoViper]

1 Duke/Commander/Snake-Eyes/Storm Shadow a year is fine. That's how it was in the 80s when it was cool to own one of these figures.

[helrod]

Yeah it's time for something new,
that might help revive things a bit.
there are a ton of characters to chose from to build a new team of headliners.

[MJjoe4life]

Yeah it would be cool to only see the core characters once a year. But we know Hasbro it wont happen.

[Stoner]

Atleast make them 1per case

[speedlgt]

I think you have to have core characters out on the shelfs but yeah i think some new or bring back some of the older characters to modern light would be great.

I think A guy like deep six, spearhead, cloudburst, pathfinder, psych out could all be good guys to make figs of its something different.

I know we like our army builders but I think thats kinda a bust too. kids may not care about a laser viper? maybe more cobra characters like boa, raptor, krake ans so on

[zedhatch]

I've said it a few times, but the best way to save money on the movie line would have been to do one really good version of SE, Duke, SS, Rockblock ect rather than 1 fair version, one good version and one great version (and in some cases some other fair versions in between). Would have saved tons on toolings, paint, ect.

[Troops of Doom]

GI Joe should be an ensemble cast. One of the things I loved about GI Joe when I was a kid was there was always something NEW.

[Troynos]

The core character concept exists for a reason and it works.

The problem with Joe is that they aren't able to (for a variety of reasons) stick to one line. It changes up so often that they need to keep releasing the core characters.

If Joe could maintain one line for awhile, you'd see less of the cores and more of the others.

[Jettfire]

The core character concept exists for a reason and it works.

The problem with Joe is that they aren't able to (for a variety of reasons) stick to one line. It changes up so often that they need to keep releasing the core characters.

If Joe could maintain one line for awhile, you'd see less of the cores and more of the others.


Show me the poll that proves this theory.

[Breakerfan]

The core character concept exists for a reason and it works.

The problem with Joe is that they aren't able to (for a variety of reasons) stick to one line. It changes up so often that they need to keep releasing the core characters.

If Joe could maintain one line for awhile, you'd see less of the cores and more of the others.

I don't completely agree. POC was a short lived line. I get they need a Snake Eyes and a Storm Shadow. How many of each did they make?

[DarkHorse]

If Hasbro didn't include core characters, the line would die overnight.

Sorry, but the 5% of collectors who only want obscure characters isn't enough to make the toyline financially viable.

[Zarana]

They should make better core characters

[Breakerfan]

If Hasbro didn't include core characters, the line would die overnight.

Sorry, but the 5% of collectors who only want obscure characters isn't enough to make the toyline financially viable.

Because kids who have no concept of who Duke or Snake Eyes are would realize they were missing.

[Raw Dog]

I think Hasbro should keep producing new and updated versions of Joe's core characters. I imagine those are the figures that sell the most, and I'd like to see the brand really take off. I'd like for GI Joe figures to sell as well as Transformers and Star Wars, and I think making new versions of Joe's core characters is the best way to do that.

The Club can focus on the other characters.

[Havok]

Actually I really like what hasbro is doing based off of their prototypes at JoeCon. Keep updating the classic characters, and introduce 30th anniversary type updates of Vintage figures. I feel almost Almost every prototype except maybe a few should get released.

[luigi]

i know how bout add a generic head with each guy so they become like troop builders

[CobraOfficer999]

Half the voters still want the Core characters. Interesting.

[sbwy80]

I say give them a break, but I know this will never happen. I think they should release them one per wave. When the put all four in the first wave it clogs the pegs. I think this would free up more space for new figures.

[RolandofGilead]

You may as well ask that they stop producing Vader and Luke Skywalker figures in the Star Wars line. It's never going to happen. For every jaded collector (myself included) waiting to finally get so-and-so 3rd tier character, there's a kid just getting introduced to the line who wants the big guns. The new kids mean more potential money than we do. Plain and simple.

[Azzurro21]

We've had enough Duke, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow to last us until the world ends. Why was the original line so successful? They kept giving us new characters to replace old characters and sprinkled the classics in a little at a time. Now we get the same characters over and over and over, with new exciting characters sprinkled in once in a while...

The argument that kids want Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow is as old as GI Joe and irrelevant because most kids don't even know who those characters are anymore.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Not really stop producing them all together, but I think the should go on a hiatus for a few waves. If you don't have Duke CC Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow by now in some version or another than you are not worth your salt as a joe collector.

[hotmitts]

You may as well ask that they stop producing Vader and Luke Skywalker figures in the Star Wars line. It's never going to happen. For every jaded collector (myself included) waiting to finally get so-and-so 3rd tier character, there's a kid just getting introduced to the line who wants the big guns. The new kids mean more potential money than we do. Plain and simple.

That's true. We may just have to accept that, because otherwise there wouldn't be any Gi Joe at all.
Personally I'd like to see some new characters, or radical re-inventions of older ones, to re-vitalise the line. How many versions of the smae character can you make. having said that there are always versions of Duke and Snake eyes coming out that are worth having (Dollar SE, alien marine duke)

[Pit Viper]

It's already been stated but yeah . . . make 3/4 of an assortment new characters/old characters they haven't done in a while with 1/4 being their best version of core characters such as Snake-Eyes, Duke, and Cobra Commander. Then with the next assortment do the same thing but this time give us their best versions of Storm Shadow, Destro, and Flint.

They can keep releasing the core characters so that they will be available to those who want them (mainly kids) while at the same time not driving collectors insane by making them feel like they have to buy yet another to be a completist.

[EvilMonkeyPrime]

The core character concept exists for a reason and it works.

The problem with Joe is that they aren't able to (for a variety of reasons) stick to one line. It changes up so often that they need to keep releasing the core characters.

If Joe could maintain one line for awhile, you'd see less of the cores and more of the others.

I completely agree with your second point. Your 1st is only true because we get so starved for joe we buy dukes to kitbash or customize. The core are always the last on the pegs preventing reorders.
I'll keep saying it, release the refresh waves after all the other waves hit. Give all the figs a chance to sell. It will give people time to reflect and want those they passed up earlier.

[DR.Sin]

Not really stop producing them all together, but I think the should go on a hiatus for a few waves. If you don't have Duke CC Snake Eyes or Storm Shadow by now in some version or another than you are not worth your salt as a joe collector.

I agree with this. Release them to start out with, then release other characters in the other waves. Maybe sprinkle one or two of the said starters through out in revisions, but don't create a new version of the core characters until way later.

In the POC line the wave 3 Duke should have been named and repainted as backblast, just to have a new character for this age. Plus those weapons were pretty obvious to me for that Joe.

[EvilMonkeyPrime]

i know how bout add a generic head with each guy so they become like troop builders

Yup I'll second the motion. Those arctic destros could have been snow IGs all they would need is an extra head.
Hell make a duke wearing blizzards uniform. Call him snow duke. Make crystal ball name him cc in disguise. We don't get stands or file cards so who cares what name they slap on a fig. All I read is how no one is keeping these carded.

[whitefox360]

This thread best summarizes why hasbro is right to ignore most of you and just do what they feel is best for the line as it exists TODAY. Everyone of you people complaining about overproduced main characters are the same people that ripped hasbro a new asshole after THEY LISTENED TO YOU and made renegades storm shadow one per case.

Oh. But that was different. Just like the, "I'll buy any large scale skystriker...but not that one" crowd and the "we need huge playsets...but thats too expensive" champs.

We'll continue to get the main characters over and over until something clicks with the kids because thats who the line is for regardless of how many of you feel youre sitting on the secrets to the lines success.

[DR.Sin]

Yup I'll second the motion. Those arctic destros could have been snow IGs all they would need is an extra head.
Hell make a duke wearing blizzards uniform. Call him snow duke. Make crystal ball name him cc in disguise. We don't get stands or file cards so who cares what name they slap on a fig. All I read is how no one is keeping these carded.

I keep some carded because of how cool some look still packaged. The POC stuff looked badass this way. My personal favorites in package are Snake Eyes ultimate, Shadow Tracker, Jungle BAT, Lowlight, Alley Viper, Snow Job, and the Cobra shocktrooper.

[Cody]

Personally, I think they should give them a rest and not produce any more versions of Duke, SS, Destro, Etc. for the next few years. I would rather get a redone character who's hardly seen the light of day, like Salvo, for example, as well as totally new characters like Kwinn released.
But, tell me: what do you think?
A. Give the Core Characters a rest and produce new characters and hardly released ones.
B. Keep producing the core characters.
Or
C.You don't care as long as articulation is kept at 30th levels.

Nothing is wrong with core characters seeing a fairly consistant presence in the line; after all, they're the core characters. What I think needs to be done is for Hasbro to realize there are more than 5 core characters. And if you're going to produce constant waves of those 5 core characters, they need to be drastically different than the last 5 versions. Produce a Snake Eyes, but think outside the box. How about a snake eyes in Vietnam gear with exchangable heads. Something different. When they trot out that new collectors and kids want the versions they know crap, all you have to do is point to the figures that consistantly warm the pegs to see those demographics have no problems getting ahold of the versions they might want.

[youdoitimbusy]

86 it son! I have a squad of snake eyes from the last two or three years that I never intended on having. 1 kick a$$ fig a year is all you really need.

[cardensb]

No way will Hasbro stop. The core characters sell. That allows them a little profit to make us a less popular character every once in a while. No one is forcing us to buy Duke version whatever... If you have enough Dukes then save the cash for something else. (Completionists - this does not apply; buy two of all released)

[CobraOfficer999]

No way will Hasbro stop. The core characters sell. That allows them a little profit to make us a less popular character every once in a while. No one is forcing us to buy Duke version whatever... If you have enough Dukes then save the cash for something else. (Completionists - this does not apply; buy two of all released)

Core characters sell? Then why are 5 Artic Destros, 4 Ren CCs and 3 Ren Dukes shelfwarming as I type this at my TRU.

[Woundwort]

When I was a kid, I definitely wanted the core characters, but I only needed one figure of each character. I pretty much wanted as many different characters as I could get. So I'd go along with those who say one figure per year is enough so kids get the chance to get the core character and everyone gets a chance to get everyone else. I think kids would be the same today as they were when I was a kid and want a lot of unique characters, instead of multiples of the same character.

[Xenos]

I don't mind getting core characters when they are done well. Wave 3 PoC Se and 30th SS were both awesome. I think the body they were using for the zombie Cobra Commander was the single best item they showed at Joe Con. I'd love to have a perfect remake of the original Duke.

Basically, I'm fine with them addin a heavy hitter to every wave, as long as the figures are worthwhile. Though I feel that way about new characters too. I just want good toys, I'll figure out where they fit in my collection later.

[Ford]

Yeah, cut back on the core characters. Or at least limit their numbers in cases. You know, just like you did with Renegades Storm Shadow! Oh, wait...

[zedhatch]

This thread best summarizes why hasbro is right to ignore most of you and just do what they feel is best for the line as it exists TODAY. Everyone of you people complaining about overproduced main characters are the same people that ripped hasbro a new asshole after THEY LISTENED TO YOU and made renegades storm shadow one per case.

Oh. But that was different. Just like the, "I'll buy any large scale skystriker...but not that one" crowd and the "we need huge playsets...but thats too expensive" champs.

We'll continue to get the main characters over and over until something clicks with the kids because thats who the line is for regardless of how many of you feel youre sitting on the secrets to the lines success.

Yes because that has worked out so well so far, didn't we just get told that "GI Joe has been languishing at retail" recently. Does that not indicate something needs to change.

For 30th ann, WHAT wave pegwarmed? What wave was simple to get no matter where you went and no matter where you looked, the wave loaded with Duke, CC, FF, and SE.

Great versions of those characters work, but not everytime and not all of them are going to be great, just a fact of life.

If they REALLY listened to us they would have made ALL the renegades figs one per case, that simply wasn't what happened. They ended up putting the best figure of the renegades line into shortpacked thus further alienating fans.

And if the line is for kids, why is NO marketing directed at them, how can they know to buy a toyline they don't even know about?

[CobraOfficer999]

Yes because that has worked out so well so far, didn't we just get told that "GI Joe has been languishing at retail" recently. Does that not indicate something needs to change.

For 30th ann, WHAT wave pegwarmed? What wave was simple to get no matter where you went and no matter where you looked, the wave loaded with Duke, CC, FF, and SE.

Great versions of those characters work, but not everytime and not all of them are going to be great, just a fact of life.

If they REALLY listened to us they would have made ALL the renegades figs one per case, that simply wasn't what happened. They ended up putting the best figure of the renegades line into shortpacked thus further alienating fans.

And if the line is for kids, why is NO marketing directed at them, how can they know to buy a toyline they don't even know about?

What happened at retail? I think they oversaturated it with dozens of versions of the Core characters and hardly anyone else, causing the line to grow stale for many people. They also stopped advertising inexplicably a long time ago, thus causing less exposure to and awareness of the line among kids. These factors, amoung others, have caused sales to drop, thus causing stores to slash stocks. Introducing new characters while looking for advertising space on major kids networks will reinvigorate the line.