Let your voice be heard! The informal Concept case Survey!

[General Hawk]

Yes, Hasbro is going to likely launch their own online polling system.

No, I don't think we should wait for them. These concept items are fresh in our memories, so I think the time to talk about them, vote about them, and get the enthusiasm rolling is right now.

With help from a GeneralsJoes reader, we have set up a SurveyMonkey survey to gather feedback for your favorite items in the concept case! Check out the details and the survey itself at the link below:

G.I. Joe Fans - Vote on the Concept Case! (http://generalsjoes.com/tell-hasbro-what-you-want-2012-gijoecon-concept-case-survey/)

If you just want to hit up the survey itself without checking out the identification gallery or the rules, just click on the SurveyMonkey link below to go direct:

Survey Monkey - G.I. Joe Fans let your voice be heard! (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/L3BY5PK)

[DarkHorse]

I kinda lost interest having to grade every single figure. Doing a top 5 of each would have been much easier.

[General Hawk]

I kinda lost interest having to grade every single figure. Doing a top 5 of each would have been much easier.

That is the way I tried to do it, but unfortunately the Survey Monkey rating system forces you to grade each item, or it will just arbitrarily grade the remaining figures in alphabetical order.

If I wanted to pay $300 annually for the professional version, I'd have more control, but I am running this on shoestring budget. :D

[General Hawk]

...and I should note that I will essentially be calculating the results for the Top Five, so if you do just grade the top five and let the rest of the results fall arbitrarily, it will most likely still result in accurate Top Five ratings.

[The Commander]

on it now...Thanks for putting this together Justin.

[cobraEdaco]

Yes, thanks.

[DarkHorse]

Here's my vehicle list -

Roboskull
S6 Street Razor
Thundermachine
ARAH Night Raven retool
USS Flagg.

[nerdsgetchicks]

I took the survey. Hope it does some good.

[jogunwarrior]

I had issue with the last part of the survey where I could write in vehicle and figure ideas. It told me I needed to enter a positive value. I ended up taking out my suggestions and leaving that suggestion blank.

[Fast_Draw]

Done and done. Everything worked fine for me.

[General Hawk]

I had issue with the last part of the survey where I could write in vehicle and figure ideas. It told me I needed to enter a positive value. I ended up taking out my suggestions and leaving that suggestion blank.

Yeah, there was a category glitch there. It was expecting numbers not text. Should be fixed now, appreciate you finding a way past it!

[UMAN]

I think mine submitted.

[fireflyguy]

Justin, I read your article on GJ's about the 10 things you took away from the con, and I thought it was very well written. I'll definitely be voting in the poll.

[Stryker927]

Filled it out. Good luck collating those results. :)

[General Hawk]

Justin, I read your article on GJ's about the 10 things you took away from the con, and I thought it was very well written. I'll definitely be voting in the poll.

Thanks very much, I really appreciate the kind words.

[ChicagoScott]

My most wanted vehicles/playsets:

1. Checkpoint Alpha
2. Tactical Battle Platform
3. Tomahawk
4. Whale
5. 83 Headquarters

[A.C.T.]

...just finished taking the survey. I hope it does some good.

[Mech-Viper]

i put my 2 cents in

[drunknmunky]

I voted that I want to see the Armor Bot :)

[firefox91]

Justin, I really like the effort you put in to this survey. The results from it will be something tangible that can be used. Normally surveys that just get thrown together are just ignored completely as people say they want everything made or ask for things that were not even an option. I don't even collect the current style of figures anymore but I am impressed with the way those new ones looked. If everyone wants those figures as much as they all talked about, then take a few minutes to complete Justin's survey and prove it.

[General Hawk]

Thanks, man, appreciate it!

[Irid70]

Voted. Thanks for taking the time to set this up.


That said I'm going to blame YOU, personally, if Kwinn doesn't come out, because Hasbro said he would on your podcast! ;)

[skinny]

voted, and ranked, wrote in modern Pac Rats.

[A.C.T.]

Voted. Thanks for taking the time to set this up.


That said I'm going to blame YOU, personally, if Kwinn doesn't come out, because Hasbro said he would on your podcast! ;)

I put Kwinn as my #1 for its respective slot.

[Irid70]

As did I.

[Nightrain]

For that last part for listing stuff, I put

New GI Joe tank
New vehicle
New vehicle
New vehicle
New vehicle

ALPINE
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character
New character

[Loose Cannon]

Filled out. Come on Cobra Transport Helicopter. Ill be interested to see how many people really want or do not want More ZOMBIES and ninjas.

[skinny]

...and I should note that I will essentially be calculating the results for the Top Five, so if you do just grade the top five and let the rest of the results fall arbitrarily, it will most likely still result in accurate Top Five ratings.
not necessarily as everyone's rankings will be different so if everyone leaves cobra commander zombie in position 20 for example he will be eliminated, but if some people put him in 6 and some people put him in 5 the results will be different.

[General Hawk]

Voted. Thanks for taking the time to set this up.


That said I'm going to blame YOU, personally, if Kwinn doesn't come out, because Hasbro said he would on your podcast! ;)

That's fine, I'll blame myself as well. :D

[theprocess]

Yes, Hasbro is going to likely launch their own online polling system.

How do you know this information, or are you just putting words into sentences to see what happens?

Sorry, I know I may come off as trollish sometimes in certain threads, everybody is allowed to have their own opinions or speculations, just please don't sell them as facts...Right now it sounds like you know something nobody else knows.

I took the survey just voted for the top three things and let everything else fall where it may.

[General Hawk]

As did I.

Judging by how the responses are trending you two certainly are not alone in that...

[CrimsonGuard101]

Blech rigged survey...wheres the option for all?

[cmderinchief]

That said I'm going to blame YOU, personally, if Kwinn doesn't come out, because Hasbro said he would on your podcast! ;)

Irizarry may take umbrage to that...

[kneroh]

voted, ranked, wrote, etc

Great list GJ! So very thorough!

[Xenos]

How do you know this information, or are you just putting words into sentences to see what happens?

Sorry, I know I may come off as trollish sometimes in certain threads, everybody is allowed to have their own opinions or speculations, just please don't sell them as facts...Right now it sounds like you know something nobody else knows.

I took the survey just voted for the top three things and let everything else fall where it may.

At the con they said they were hoping to put something up so people could vote on them. I don't remember exactly where I saw it though. Maybe on their What's on Joe Mind interview.

[General Hawk]

How do you know this information, or are you just putting words into sentences to see what happens?

Sorry, I know I may come off as trollish sometimes in certain threads, everybody is allowed to have their own opinions or speculations, just please don't sell them as facts...Right now it sounds like you know something nobody else knows.

I took the survey just voted for the top three things and let everything else fall where it may.

Hasbro stated it at the Convention in no uncertain terms. I interviewed them for the What's on Joe Mind podcast as well, and they stated it there, too:

WOJM Special Edition #16: EXCLUSIVE The Hasbro GI Joe Brand Team!! » What's on JOE Mind? (http://whatsonjoemind.podbean.com/2012/07/02/wojm-special-edition-16-exclusive-the-hasbro-gi-joe-brand-team/)

If I'm stating it as if it is fact, that's because I see it as fact.

[Lantern_Lad]

Took the time, filled it out... THANKS Justin!

Edit: I would like to add that a vote for a FLAGG is a wasted vote.

[TheRealDubya]

Voted. Thanks for putting this together.

[skinny]

Took the time, filled it out... THANKS Justin!

Edit: I would like to add that a vote for a FLAGG is a wasted vote.

thats why i voted for PAC RATS

[Lantern_Lad]

thats why i voted for PAC RATS

LOL... a much more realistic vote!

[Superjoe74]

I voted early today. I am glad all of the figures and vehicles were listed and we were not limited to picking the top 5. This really made me consider each of the figures merits individually rather than just my top picks.

[sithewok]

Done. Thanks for setting this up!

[Xerofall]

Hasbro stated it at the Convention in no uncertain terms. I interviewed them for the What's on Joe Mind podcast as well, and they stated it there, too:

WOJM Special Edition #16: EXCLUSIVE The Hasbro GI Joe Brand Team!! » What's on JOE Mind? (http://whatsonjoemind.podbean.com/2012/07/02/wojm-special-edition-16-exclusive-the-hasbro-gi-joe-brand-team/)

If I'm stating it as if it is fact, that's because I see it as fact.

Never doubt the General, he's juiced in. :) He also runs one of the best ME review sites I've ever visited.

I'll vote when I get home, hard to do on my smart phone.

[TripleCP]

Yeah, I'm glad its not just a pick five. There's only about five of both the POC and 30th style figs that I wouldn't be interested in.

[Turtle Master]

I don't care for the HALO-inspired figures, so they didn't rate high on my ballot.

If we just get Kwinn and Snake Ninja Master then this will have been a success.

[Kujo]

Great survey. I hope this goes somewhere.

[Lantern_Lad]

The ninja's all scored low on my chart... but the classic styled figures & zombie's scored pretty high.

[sbartek1974]

Done! Thanks for doing this.

[Nightrain]

Edit: I would like to add that a vote for a FLAGG is a wasted vote.

I think voting for any old vehicle is a waste. I want new shit, not shit I can already get from ebay.

[skinny]

which is why i put "modern" pac rat imagine what they would look like today.

[Nightrain]

Yeah I could go for that. One modern pac rat ought to be a drone launcher shouldn't it?

[CrimsonGuard101]

Yeah I could go for that. One modern pac rat ought to be a drone launcher shouldn't it?

Drones take off airstrips....they dont need a launcher...if were going with a pack rat we need one like in Law Abiding Citizen movie! With that EMP and 50 cal on top...

[CobraOfficer999]

Here's my list
1. GH SB Commander
2. Robo-Joe
3. Salvo
4. Kwinn
5. Dr. Burkhart
6. Barricade
7. Alpine
8. Bazooka
9. Astro-viper
10. Lazer Viper
11. Lady Jaye
12. Top Side
13. Forgot to mention Chun-Li, Though I took the survey.

Duke, SS, SE, Destro, and the other core characters have been done to death. I think they need to 1) Rerelease ARAH characters like Salvo and Robo-Joe that haven't been given ME treatment yet and 2) Release characters that haven't been made yet, like Burkhart and Kwinn, and, 3) Hold off on any of the core characters for a few years while they release new characters and ARAH characters that haven't recieved the ME treatment yet. I think this would go along way of releaving some of the character fatigue and bordom kids and adults are going through with the line recently, which I think is one cause of sagging sales and stocks at stores.

Vehicles:

1. Tonka Steel Flagg
2. BUGG
3. Coyote
4. Stinger Jeep
5. Rattler
6. WHALE
7. General

[monkeywrench1988]

of the ones they showed I want all the Zombies, Data Viper, Kwinn, and all the remaining Renegades figures

[sbartek1974]

...if were going with a pack rat we need one like in Law Abiding Citizen movie! With that EMP and 50 cal on top...

Now that would be sweet!

[Turtle Master]

If you reach the point of indifference in your list, please put Snake Ninja Master after your choices.

For some reason that figure speaks to me.

[Raw Dog]

I took the survey. It was wicked awesome. Thanks for putting it together. I feel like everything I voted favorably for will get made. You rock. Yo Joe!

[Steevy Maximus]

I added a modern Falcon and Pythona to the figures not shown I wanted.

Should have put Serpentor on there as well...

[Raw Dog]

I added Crystal Ball and Raptor, as well as Headman, the Headhunters, Pathfinder and Ambush. It was a very cathartic experience.

[Repeater_24]

Done

[bitetheasp]

I added a modern Falcon and Pythona to the figures not shown I wanted.

Should have put Serpentor on there as well...
Damn, I knew I forgot people...

[sbartek1974]

Can we see the results of these?

[Xerofall]

I voted for mostly vipers (Frag, Toxo, Gyro,) cuz I'm like that. The vehicles I picked were Maggot, Wolf, Mountain Howitzer, ASP.

[Jinx723]

My Top Three per category;

30th:
1) Kwinn
2) Beach head
3) Flint

POC:
1) Zartan
2) Data Viper
3) Snow Serpent

"Zomjas":
1) Urban Ninjas (Night Creeper)
2) Snake Ninja Master
3) Cobra Commander (unzombified)

Renegades:
1) Flint's Jeep
2) Unmasked Storm Shadow
3) Scrap Iron

Renegades Continued:
1) Baroness
2) Gen. Hawk Abernathy
3) Flint

Concept Vehicles:
1) Steel Wolf Armored Transport

[SmokePants]

I can't say I'm excited about any of them. I understand why they weren't produced.

[Irid70]

Irizarry may take umbrage to that...


I wasn't being serious with my claim to personally blame GH if it didn't happen, and I know they didn't guarantee it. I was joking.

[heymilt]

Great idea J!
I can smell the hope in this thread...

[sparks007]

I filled out the survey , thanks for taking the time to put it together.

[General Hawk]

Guys, I just want to thank everyone for participating so far! There has been a fantastic turn out. I'm really pleasantly surprised.

I fully intend to be transparent and show the results, but I'd like to wait until after the first round is over.

I plan to let the first round go for 2 weeks, but it's seeming like that might be ambitious. I'll keep an eye on the clicks and if there is still strong turn out, I'll leave it up. If visitors are petering out and it looks like the survey has served its purpose, I'll start collating and preparing for round two.

Thank you all again!

[sewnback2gether]

Vehicles I would like to see made:

Whale
Hammerhead
Buzz boar
General
bugg

Top 3 joes:

Metal head
Salvo
Pathfinder

[Starfighter]

I voted earlier today. I will get flak for this, but I am actually not really interested in any of the Zombies. I voted for them last. Especially Zombie Cobra Commander. I really would rather have other figures fill the joles in our collections before bio-vipers, zombies, ghost, werewolves, vampires & all other supernatural things. In my opinion G.I. Joe needs to be a realistic military fighting force vs other rebels, mercs, terrorists, military factions. I do not min the futuristic sci-fi stuff as much as others as it is an integral part of G.I. Joe, but anything else, I would rather Hasbro skip.

[Red Sox]

Guys, I just want to thank everyone for participating so far! There has been a fantastic turn out. I'm really pleasantly surprised.

I fully intend to be transparent and show the results, but I'd like to wait until after the first round is over.

I plan to let the first round go for 2 weeks, but it's seeming like that might be ambitious. I'll keep an eye on the clicks and if there is still strong turn out, I'll leave it up. If visitors are petering out and it looks like the survey has served its purpose, I'll start collating and preparing for round two.

Thank you all again!

Thank you for putting the effort into the survey!

[G.I.Spawn]

I voted. I would buy everything that was mentioned

[Mr Hebime]

Took the survey on my lunch break. Hope it makes a difference. Love all the figures but my main wish is for the steel wolf to get produced.

[skinny]

It is funny it did not occur to me earlier but the zombie storm shadow could be partially used to make an issue 50 custom. oh well already voted.

[Kaboomskie]

Done as well, hope this will be heard by the big 'bro

[agent888]

i'm on page 4 but i keep hitting next and it goes back to the top of page 4?

[agent888]

i'm on page 4 but i keep hitting next and it goes back to the top of page 4?

of the survey.

[jogunwarrior]

Is it giving you an error message in red indicating that a required field may have been skipped?

[paraviper]

Voted Thank you for putting that up.

[General Hawk]

BUMP! The survey is still going, so have at it!

Tell Hasbro What you want – 2012 GIJoeCon Concept Case Survey | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/tell-hasbro-what-you-want-2012-gijoecon-concept-case-survey/)

[General Hawk]

ATTN Joe Fans!! Round Two of the very popular Concept Case Survey is now LIVE!

GeneralsJoes Link: Tell Hasbro What you want – 2012 GIJoeCon Concept Case Survey ROUND TWO | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/tell-hasbro-what-you-want-2012-gijoecon-concept-case-survey/)

Survey Monkey Direct Link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BPGNB67

Tell Hasbro what you want!

[skinny]

ATTN Joe Fans!! Round Two of the very popular Concept Case Survey is now LIVE!

GeneralsJoes Link: Tell Hasbro What you want – 2012 GIJoeCon Concept Case Survey ROUND TWO | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/tell-hasbro-what-you-want-2012-gijoecon-concept-case-survey/)

Survey Monkey Direct Link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BPGNB67

Tell Hasbro what you want!

wow those choices are not at all what I would have expected. or voted for.
Very surprised the Raven and the other new ones did not make the cut.
equally surprised people voted for yet another Flint and Lady Jaye.

[drunknmunky]

Voted. Sucks that Laser Viper didn't make the cut. Oh well, I'm an idiot and buy everything Hasbro slaps the Joe name on anyways :)

[C.I.A.D.]

wow those choices are not at all what I would have expected. or voted for.
Very surprised the Raven and the other new ones did not make the cut.
equally surprised people voted for yet another Flint and Lady Jaye.


Agreed, Skinny. The HoH can easily pass as the new Flint that's being cooked up.


Voted. Sucks that Laser Viper didn't make the cut.

Right? Eh, at least Hit & Run and Data Viper are still present. :D

[cmderinchief]

I wouldn't get too discouraged if yours didn't make the cut on this survey. There is this and other surveys running in the fandom that you should participate in. The one that will matter is the one Hasbro will do. Take up a campaign, lobby for your favorite characters. Have fun with it!

[skinny]

I wouldn't get too discouraged if yours didn't make the cut on this survey. There is this and other surveys running in the fandom that you should participate in. The one that will matter is the one Hasbro will do. Take up a campaign, lobby for your favorite characters. Have fun with it!

true
however Justin's was the best organized and formatted.
I will set up some 2nd round ones over at yo joe later.
barely any participation in those however:
http://forums.yojoe.com/search.php?searchid=27866

[Fast_Draw]

Done and done...no Laser Viper is not cool.

[skinny]

posted up the concept polls over on yojoe, some results from the first round were similar others not so much.

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88575-hasbro-concept-vault-round-two-part-one.html

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88576-hasbro-concept-vault-round-two-part-two.html

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88577-hasbro-concept-consolation-bracket.html

[Jinx723]

true
however Justin's was the best organized and formatted.
I will set up some 2nd round ones over at yo joe later.
barely any participation in those however:
http://forums.yojoe.com/search.php?searchid=27866


This is the kind of stuff that really bugs me.
Justin mentioned that Round 1 had 1100 that took the survey. There's over 22,000 members on Hisstank, god knows how many at Generalsjoes and all the other Joe forums. The majority bitch & moan that Hasbro won't give us what we want. Yet, those same people can't take a 10 minute survey.

[cmderinchief]

Done and done...no Laser Viper is not cool.

Agreed sir, agreed!

posted up the concept polls over on yojoe, some results from the first round were similar others not so much.

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88575-hasbro-concept-vault-round-two-part-one.html

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88576-hasbro-concept-vault-round-two-part-two.html

http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-2000-present/88577-hasbro-concept-consolation-bracket.html

Will head over at lunch! Thanks Ted!

This is the kind of stuff that really bugs me.
Justin mentioned that Round 1 had 1100 that took the survey. There's over 22,000 members on Hisstank, god knows how many at Generalsjoes and all the other Joe forums. The majority bitch & moan that Hasbro won't give us what we want. Yet, those same people can't take a 10 minute survey.

It almost mirrors the modern day voter turn out on election day. It certainly doesn't hurt to vote.

[Fast_Draw]

It's the same thing when everyone says "Aw hell yeah! I'll buy (insert your product here)!" And then they won't buy it until it hits clearance.

[turner]

Agreed sir, agreed!



Will head over at lunch! Thanks Ted!



It almost mirrors the modern day voter turn out on election day. It certainly doesn't hurt to vote.

Unless you vote for the wrong one....

[General Hawk]

Done and done...no Laser Viper is not cool.

I was shocked that Laser Viper didn't make the cut for Round Two, and equally surprised that Crimson Guard Immortal did. Considering the CGI was based on a figure with limited articulation (Retaliation Cobra Trooper).

[General Hawk]

This is the kind of stuff that really bugs me.
Justin mentioned that Round 1 had 1100 that took the survey. There's over 22,000 members on Hisstank, god knows how many at Generalsjoes and all the other Joe forums. The majority bitch & moan that Hasbro won't give us what we want. Yet, those same people can't take a 10 minute survey.

I do agree with this, for sure, but I do think 1100 was a pretty great turn out, nonetheless.

It certainly would help if people shared their views, though, especially if they don't agree with the current direction of the brand.