what the?

[BigBri1001]

OK, first let me say I have been a Joe fan for 30 yrs, and will all ways be one. That being said I have to say, I just bought the G I Joe Retaliation Ghost Hawk II, and I have to say this toy is a huge let down. I mean come on the duke figure is awful, he doesn't even have legs that bend at the knee, he is straight armed and straight legged. Wth? And the missiles are only half formed and when looking at the thing from underneath the hollow tale and bombs look awful and extremely cheap. Has Hasbro lost so much money that they have had to cut such corners? I know the toy is large and only 19.99 but I would have gladly paid 25.99 if it allowed them to fix this glaring piece of crap. I am sorely offended that Hasbro has done this, and now I am afraid to buy any other of their new toys in case they are as shoddy as this one. Maybe I am over acting, but I expect better quality from Hasbro.

[nerdsgetchicks]

Hellooooo Alabamian!! I agree with you 100% on the quality. I passed on the movie crap and focused on loose Renegades and some Resolute figs. I never got the Resolute packs and found them for 30 bucks each online the other day.

[Dealer Destro]

Has Hasbro lost so much money that they have had to cut such corners? I know the toy is large and only 19.99 but I would have gladly paid 25.99 if it allowed them to fix this glaring piece of crap. I am sorely offended that Hasbro has done this.


Not sure if just quote worthy................. or sig worthy.........


Regardless I really got a chuckle out of this.

[xSwamiJayx]

Was this really a surprise? Haven't we been going nuts about this since the reveals at Toyfair in February? Or when they were released six weeks ago?

I'm not trying to bust your balls homey but if you didn't know this was coming, you lived in a dark, desolate cave for the last 7 months.

[Xerofall]

you lived in a dark, desolate cave for the last 7 months.

Alabama, lol.

[Saboteur]

Was this really a surprise? Haven't we been going nuts about this since the reveals at Toyfair in February? Or when they were released six weeks ago?

I'm not trying to bust your balls homey but if you didn't know this was coming, you lived in a dark, desolate cave for the last 7 months.

I had heard about the lack of articulation.

But I thought everyone was just kidding!

[Saboteur]

alabama, lol.

lol!!

[BigBri1001]

I was in and out of the hospital the last 8 months so didn't have time to keep up on stuff, no dark cave just a dark hospital room lol.

[BigBri1001]

And u know its bad when my wife who can't stand give Joe even says wow that a huge piece of crap lol

[Saboteur]

The drivers for the vehicles are all like that.

Some of the later waves of Retaliation (like most other sub lines for Joe) will contain some of the better figures.

It's just a matter of if they make it to retail. Hasbro will re-distribute wave 1 again next year or around the Holidays. (Hope for the latter) These have to sell through before the better stuff show up.

Sucks you were in the hospital off and on for 8 months. There is some decent Retaliation stuff out there like the Joe trooper and the red ninja.

[Torgos-Pizza]

Not sure if just quote worthy................. or sig worthy.........


Regardless I really got a chuckle out of this.Same here.

[the odinson]

Alabama, lol.

lol!!

uhh, you're from georgia. right next door. sure, you have the atl. but we have college football.

[Saboteur]

uhh, you're from georgia. right next door. sure, you have the atl. but we have college football.

Right. Next door.

Which is why I can appreciate the joke a little more.

And Alabama football sucks. :D

[BigBri1001]

Lol when was the last time Georgia won national football championship? Lol
:p

[Saboteur]

Lol when was the last time Georgia won national football championship? Lol
:p

Don't know.

I'm an Auburn fan.

[the odinson]

Right. Next door.

Which is why I can appreciate the joke a little more.

And Alabama football sucks. :D

look, as an auburn man i can't talk too much shit about uga considering we're 1-5 over the last 6 years, and i truly hate bama, but we do have 3 national championships in a row for the state.

never mind. war eagle!

[BigBri1001]

And so the retaliation figures from the cartoon are good all I saw were ones from the upcoming movie

[the odinson]

uga's last national championship was in 1982.

[Saboteur]

And so the retaliation figures from the cartoon are good all I saw were ones from the upcoming movie

No, no. The Joe trooper and Red ninja are Retaliation movie toys.

[cardensb]

At the JoeCon, Hasbro responded to the lack of articulation for the new line. Basically, they want to provide a driver/pilot figure for all vehicles for the kids (toys target audience) and to keep the price reasonable cut the articulation.
It was not well-received (IMHO) but understood by most.

[BigBri1001]

That's a cop out on their part, they know that 70% off their sales come from those above 20 yrs of age and prob 20% of the kids that play with the toy got it from a parent who bought it because they remember GI Joe from when they were kids. Bottom line they wanna make more $ at the cost of their true customers.

[Darth Awgmon]

uga's last national championship was in 1982.

Last and only.

[the odinson]

Last and only.

sorry, it was 1980. some claim one from the 40's, too, i think.

[Shipshape1983]

Joe Trooper's pretty cool.

[batdevil]

i live in alabama in a van down by the river........

[cobraEdaco]

Alabama, lol.

Tooele, LOL!!

[darthdrew13]

what REALLY sucks about the Ghost Hawk is the wings pop off SUPER EASY! I was trying to mount all the missiles and the wings kept popping off! I am seriously considering gluing the thing together! I know they have safety standards to follow, but the 30th Skystriker didn't have this issue! Glad I got my Ghost Hawk for free! (without pilot, which was no biggie at all).

[CVdelgado]

what REALLY sucks about the Ghost Hawk is the wings pop off SUPER EASY! I was trying to mount all the missiles and the wings kept popping off! I am seriously considering gluing the thing together! I know they have safety standards to follow, but the 30th Skystriker didn't have this issue! Glad I got my Ghost Hawk for free! (without pilot, which was no biggie at all).

if i was a joe pilot i wouldnt go near that thing. the wings keep falling off! ghost hawk they call it? more like the death trap.

"im experiencing a little turbulence here... ... wait... wait... ahhhhhhhhh!!! the wings just fell off!?!? im going down!!!!!!!!"

[CVdelgado]

kids dont like playing with toys that fall apart. por ejemplo... my son likes his new hiss and ghost hawk just fine, when they keep falling apart on him he doesnt like it.

[BigBri1001]

Ya know I was thinking about gluing em on as well. Cause I had the same problems putting the missle on. shame on you Hasbro, I mean how did this thing pass quality inspection? For a company who said they were making the vehicles to be geared towards kids, must have forgotten kids DO NOT like toys they have to keep putting back together, every time they pick it up to play with it.

[skinny]

This is part of a new marketing strategy, make toys that break really easy or fall apart so that you have to buy a new one to replace it.

I don't know how many of those huge plastic orange General Lees I went through, probably half a dozen, they just did not jump as well as the one on TV.
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[BigBri1001]

This is part of a new marketing strategy, make toys that break really easy or fall apart so that you have to buy a new one to replace it.

I don't know how many of those huge plastic orange General Lees I went through, probably half a dozen, they just did not jump as well as the one on TV.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/blowtorch84/th_Screenshot2012-07-07at74425AM.png (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/blowtorch84/Screenshot2012-07-07at74425AM.png)

I had those too and yeah hey never did jump as well lol

[Torgos-Pizza]

if i was a joe pilot i wouldnt go near that thing. the wings keep falling off! ghost hawk they call it? more like the death trap.

"im experiencing a little turbulence here... ... wait... wait... ahhhhhhhhh!!! the wings just fell off!?!? im going down!!!!!!!!"Lmao! I needed a laugh this morning! Usually, vehicles like that I just try glue. However, some vehicles with severe issues get stripped of all useable parts and the carcass winds up in the garbage can.

[Raw Dog]

My only complaint about the Ghosthawk 2 is that it only seems to have bombs and missiles. It should have a machine gun too. Other than that, I think it kicks azz.

[CrimsonGuard101]

its probabley teh second worse vehicle of all time...only trumped by the ROC Winnebago.

[Psycho Joe Guy]

Has Hasbro lost so much money that they have had to cut such corners?

Evidently.

[crock master]

OK, first let me say I have been a Joe fan for 30 yrs, and will all ways be one. That being said I have to say, I just bought the G I Joe Retaliation Ghost Hawk II, and I have to say this toy is a huge let down. I mean come on the duke figure is awful, he doesn't even have legs that bend at the knee, he is straight armed and straight legged. Wth? And the missiles are only half formed and when looking at the thing from underneath the hollow tale and bombs look awful and extremely cheap. Has Hasbro lost so much money that they have had to cut such corners? I know the toy is large and only 19.99 but I would have gladly paid 25.99 if it allowed them to fix this glaring piece of crap. I am sorely offended that Hasbro has done this, and now I am afraid to buy any other of their new toys in case they are as shoddy as this one. Maybe I am over acting, but I expect better quality from Hasbro.
welcome back to the world of movie toys. but the pictures on the box alone should have let you know it was a crap sandwich. go return it

[crock master]

what REALLY sucks about the Ghost Hawk is the wings pop off SUPER EASY! I was trying to mount all the missiles and the wings kept popping off! I am seriously considering gluing the thing together! I know they have safety standards to follow, but the 30th Skystriker didn't have this issue! Glad I got my Ghost Hawk for free! (without pilot, which was no biggie at all).

although the sky striker wings might not just fall off for no reason, they would still pop off if you were a kid actually playing with it. i bought mine a while back and the only few times i have touched it,wings and missles on the ground. how embarassing it was, because i was showing it to someone and it fell apart like a wet crap in my hands

[Xerofall]

Tooele, LOL!!

Haha, touche... :)

[BigBri1001]

Yeah, unfortunately I put the thing together and target won't take it back so, I'mstuck with it. Oh well, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice sham on me. It won't happen again.

[Gatchaman]

God I hate that "It’s for the kids" excuse. It doesn't even make sense. So what, Hasbro is saying kids like cheap crap and are ok with it? I don't think so. I was a kid when the best vehicles of the entire Joe line were being made ("82 to '86) and I loved them. I would have been appalled with something as cheap and crappy as the new Sky Hawk or whatever it’s called.

We knew what crap toys were when we saw them and so do the kids of today…..maybe even more so.

How can they make such great figures (POC, 30th, etc...) and yet not be able to make good vehicles? It kind of blows my mind.

[skinny]

God I hate that "It’s for the kids" excuse. It doesn't even make sense. So what, Hasbro is saying kids like cheap crap and are ok with it? I don't think so. I was a kid when the best vehicles of the entire Joe line were being made ("82 to '86) and I loved them. I would have been appalled with something as cheap and crappy as the new Sky Hawk or whatever it’s called.

We knew what crap toys were when we saw them and so do the kids of today…..maybe even more so.

RAM, sidecar wont stay on mount broke. FANG roll bar on engine didn't fit right, Dragonfly skids and trigger wore out or broke. Wolverine tow cable, too short. Missiles on MMS won't fit right. Whirlwind gun mounts stripped out. ASP gun shields snapped, Stun Flags broke. thumbs on straight arms snapped off.

[Gatchaman]

RAM, sidecar wont stay on mount broke. FANG roll bar on engine didn't fit right, Dragonfly skids and trigger wore out or broke. Wolverine tow cable, too short. Missiles on MMS won't fit right. Whirlwind gun mounts stripped out. ASP gun shields snapped, Stun Flags broke. thumbs on straight arms snapped off.

Well then you must play very rough with your toys. ;O)


Yes the Missiles on MMS could have been done a little better and yes some of the thumbs on some of the figures have broken off but they are 30 years old. I never had any of the other issues mentioned.

Hell, they weren’t all perfect but they were a dam sight better than most of the new Joe vehicles they put out these days. IMO

[BigBri1001]

Very true the only stuff I ever had break were the extra joes that were unfortunately captured by cobra and strapped to m80's and blown up. Lol

[BigBri1001]

Bottom line I am just dissapointed in their giant slap in the face by making crap like the ghost hawk II. I guess its a good thing they didn't remake the flagg it wouldn't last one day.

[cobraEdaco]

Haha, touche... :)

Haha ;)

[redx24]

Was this really a surprise? Haven't we been going nuts about this since the reveals at Toyfair in February? Or when they were released six weeks ago?

I'm not trying to bust your balls homey but if you didn't know this was coming, you lived in a dark, desolate cave for the last 7 months.

some people were hoping those weren't the final product.