A thief among us!

[lowlight27]

Can't believe this happened among this community, but one of our own, Flint071 had his Ocktober Guard set stolen right from under him from a fellow collector and Im sure a scalper. At Flint's discretion, we're not going to name names yet, but know that we do have witnesses and photographic evidence and we know who did it!
So Be On the Look Out for someone trying to sell a set over the next few day and make sure you get a Certificate of Authenticity, because that was the one thing he wasn't able to take.
I hope this is okay to post and we can bring this guy to justice.
Yo Joe!

[krisk]

Yo........lets keep this thread on the front page!!

[Uninvited Ghost]

I'm sure hisstank.com doesn't support thievery, and everyone would be happy to help in any way.

[AirborneRigger]

Wow! That's F'd up!

[youdoitimbusy]

I just watched the movie bada$$. This is the only guy who can bring you the justice your looking for.

[solid.wii]

I hope the guy gets caught. Damn thieves.

[Griff]

Thats some serious bullsh%t!!!! Find him an' string him up by his scrotes!

[Zarana]

If he had real balls he would repack it and try to return it. ( I suggest the 2009 set)

[RolandofGilead]

I'm sorry to hear that. Absolute bullshit is what it is.

[Colonel Bludd]

wasn't this covered yesterday or is this another thief?

[lowlight27]

What gets me is that it happened to such an awesome, upstanding guy who goes out of his way for his brotha man, I mean shit, he got together with the guys on og13.com and sent me a walmart gift card and a Techno Viper when my daughter was born and he's totally humble about it!

I would love to give the guy(alleged thief) the benefit of the doubt and the whole thing was a misunderstanding and he grabbed the wrong amount of boxes and couldn't find Flint to give back the set he by accident took, but from what I hear, this is not the case. I just want to see Retribution for what this dude did.

[lowlight27]

wasn't this covered yesterday or is this another thief?

Same I think, but we need more awareness!

[Uninvited Ghost]

I heard that the previous thread got locked. But I'm sure I heard wrong. Like I said up thread, I'm sure hisstank.com doesn't support thievery.

[Black Swan]

Thieves suck and hopefully the guilty will return the set to its rightful owner voluntarily.

That was douche thing to do and the "person" should just give it back.

[krisk]

wasn't this covered yesterday or is this another thief?

until its returned it needs to carry forward!

[Black Swan]

Give it back!!!!

[Turtle Master]

This the guy from yesterday, that got roofied while in line at 6pm?

Glad you've tracked down the culprit!

[Uninvited Ghost]

When I hear about things like this, I'd really like to belive in karma.

[fireflyguy]

Was it a fellow tanker? Let's name names! I wanna know whonitnis because I don't wanna trade with that person at all if they're a tanker.

[sirt8669]

Wonder if I was in the club store when this happened. I was with the OG13 crew for a bit.

[Uninvited Ghost]

It probably was a tanker. Just like the world-at-large, there are great people here, and the lowest of scum, too, and every kind inbetween.

[Viper6]

If its conclusive ban him f here for starters!

[krisk]

It probably was a tanker. Just like the world-at-large, there are great people here, and the lowest of scum, too, and every kind inbetween.

I dont think hes a Tanker.....maybe something else....

[cobracobra]

Thats really messed up. I hope he can get it back.

[krisk]

When I hear about things like this, I'd really like to belive in karma.

oh karma exists......believe me...I have seen it too many times!!

[Uninvited Ghost]

oh karma exists......believe me...I have seen it too many times!!

Really? I see bad people rich and good people poor. In my experience bad things happen to good people, and vice versa.

[Colonel Bludd]

So what is stopping you guys from outting him? everyone is speaking like they know who it is.

[CobraOfficer999]

Pretty low class to take advantage of a drunkman and swipe his stuff in line.

[DESTRO]

I will let this thread to remain open in the hopes of him getting his box set back with no further issues. I ask that no personal information be posted in this thread one way or another. We reserve the right to shut down this thread at anytime. Keep it civil.

[pallidmask]

Really? I see bad people rich and good people poor. In my experience bad things happen to good people, and vice versa.

Amen, brother.

[UMAN]

I say once the culprit is caught trying to sell it, if he/she is a tanker, we drag them out in the street (so to speak) and give them a very public shunning. Make this turd known to all of the Joe community.

[krisk]

Really? I see bad people rich and good people poor. In my experience bad things happen to good people, and vice versa.

well how about this little story!

A while back I was at Wal-Mart, we were in the checkout line with a basket full of Joes and food and candy and.....you get the idea....we are right next to the 15 items or less register...it has one lady in it. A guy speed walks up to that register with a couple of items, coke and some bagged stuff.....he almost immediately starts huffing that the checker is slow, and then the lady customer in front of him takes out a check and starts to fill it out. This brings the guy to groaning and tapping his foot and muttering about how its the express lane and should be cash and how dare she pay with a check and yadda yadda yadda....the customer gets done and he slams his stuff on the little counter, the checker starts to scan his stuff, then something would not scan. He exploded at her, yelling and cussing and then told her to F-ing leave it off he will just go somewhere else to get it, pays for his stuff with a card(almost broke the swiper) rips the bag out of the checker's hand and basically sprints for the door.....
Ok at this Wal-mart after 10pm only one set of doors are open and you have to use the other set....as this ass was running to the doors a couple of people are heading towards the doors, now hes on a slant to try and time the doors opening so he can just bolt out the door...However....
the doors are locked, its 10:05, he hits the doors in mid-stride, drops his bag, busts his ass. When he hit the door it was really loud, everyone was watching him cuz we ALL knew it was coming.people were cheering, laughing and clapping!

[the odinson]

get wasted when you go to pick up your con set, you get got- that's on you.

[krisk]

I will let this thread to remain open in the hopes of him getting his box set back with no further issues. I ask that no personal information be posted in this thread one way or another. We reserve the right to shut down this thread at anytime. Keep it civil.

and thats why you tha man!!

[Lantern_Lad]

until its returned it needs to carry forward!

I'm pretty sure it's already either up on eBay, or sold already.

I feel bad for the guy, but I doubt there's a damn thing that can be done about it other than a permanent ban for the person if the thief is discovered.

... and honestly, that's not much of a repercussion.

Now, if the thief is discovered and Flint had a chance to confront them... that would be entertaining.

[MJjoe4life]

That was crazy. I must have already got my exclusives and headed back to my room. I missed this and people talking about it.

[krisk]

I'm pretty sure it's already either up on eBay, or sold already.

I feel bad for the guy, but I doubt there's a damn thing that can be done about it other than a permanent ban for the person if the thief is discovered.

... and honestly, that's not much of a repercussion.

Now, if the thief is discovered and Flint had a chance to confront them... that would be entertaining.

aye, I would but tickets for that! hah

[sirt8669]

I think the name should be dropped if he in fact stole this item so everyone is able to avoid this person. I would like to know myself so I don't deal with him.

[Nordland]

I'm pretty sure it's already either up on eBay, or sold already.

I feel bad for the guy, but I doubt there's a damn thing that can be done about it other than a permanent ban for the person if the thief is discovered.

... and honestly, that's not much of a repercussion.

Now, if the thief is discovered and Flint had a chance to confront them... that would be entertaining.

It isn't up for sale currently and hasn't been sold on ebay, i've checked all the auctions for boxed sets. One important thing to remember is Flint has the COA, all boxed sets that have sold have had them. No legit collector will have thrown them out.

[krisk]

I think the name should be dropped if he in fact stole this item so everyone is able to avoid this person. I would like to know myself so I don't deal with him.

we cant and have already been warned....it was done yesterday and the thread was locked.......however there is a deadline approaching and once it is passed I believe that the evidence becomes public knowledge....

[atomsmasher]

If this is the Flint I think it is. He is one stand up guy. Sucks that someone had to be dishonest.

[DESTRO]

I think the name should be dropped if he in fact stole this item so everyone is able to avoid this person. I would like to know myself so I don't deal with him.

If anybody drops a name its an instant ban. What you guys do inside PM's and eMail is out of my control. Posting personal information about members on the boards has always been a rules violation.

[tycondrius]

you know I'd like to know if this guy is on the tank. no need to name names I just want to know if its a fellow tanker. I'm just hoping that its not one as a few of us who weren't able to make it to the con prob had asked some of the fellow tankers going to pick up a set or even split a sent with them. so like I said would like to know if the culprit was a tanker but not to name the name as I think only the admins should step in if theres prove for the guy named . remember you have to be proven guilty not just assumed .

[mightyjl]

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n560/MadMartianToyReview/5zdr9mg.gif

[Dealer Destro]

I think the name should be dropped if he in fact stole this item so everyone is able to avoid this person. I would like to know myself so I don't deal with him.

I think I can't stop looking at those titties in your sig. lol. I am right there with ya though!

[Night_Force_GI_EDDO]

what is the evidence?

[Dealer Destro]

If anybody drops a name its an instant ban. What you guys do inside PM's and eMail is out of my control.

What if it get's dropped in here: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-sell-trade-feedback/35514-bad-traders-buyers-sellers-list.html

And not the name, just the username/handle/boardID


I mean.... c'mon ......er....... Destro SR???? lol.

[krisk]

we cant and have already been warned....it was done yesterday and the thread was locked.......however there is a deadline approaching and once it is passed I believe that the evidence becomes public knowledge....

If anybody drops a name its an instant ban. What you guys do inside PM's and eMail is out of my control. Posting personal information about members on the boards has always been a rules violation.

thats #2.......if you want to know the guys name ask for a PM to be sent to you.......do not call for a name drop in the open forum please!

[sirt8669]

If anybody drops a name its an instant ban. What you guys do inside PM's and eMail is out of my control. Posting personal information about members on the boards has always been a rules violation.

I am talking about a hisstank username, I don't think that is an issue as there is a thread dedicated to just that. I can understand personal information not being posted, that is not what I meant, sorry about the confusion, and I do know the policies about personal information. If he is not a tanker and the eBay id is known, that should also be able to be posted.

[Night_Force_GI_EDDO]

I'm also curious who it is, but i'm more curious to know if anyone confronted this guy at the con? if you know who it is, why not confront him?

[tycondrius]

What if it get's dropped in here: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-buy-sell-trade/97527-vehicle-parts-buy-sell-trade-list.html

And not the name, just the username/handle/boardID


I mean.... c'mon ......er....... Destro SR???? lol.

wouldn't it make sense to add it to the bad dealers/traders list . but still as I said this guy has to be proven to be guilty we can't just add a name unless theres prove and personally I think it should be somthing that the higher ups should deal with

[lowlight27]

Never my intent, as this is merely a warning for people buying a Con set from a con, to make sure they get that COA!

[CG76]

Sorry to hear for Flint071. But does anyone have solid evidence who the culprit is?

[Dealer Destro]

wouldn't it make sense to add it to the bad dealers/traders list . but still as I said this guy has to be proven to be guilty we can't just add a name unless theres prove and personally I think it should be somthing that the higher ups should deal with

I updated my post. That's what I get for toggling like 40 tabs. lol!

[Python_Puckman]

I think I can't stop looking at those titties in your sig. lol. I am right there with ya though!

They need to be EXPOSED! Reveal them to the community so we all can sleep at night.

Now what's all this theft talk :)

[tycondrius]

I updated my post. That's what I get for toggling like 40 tabs. lol!

I see it now lol

[Xaven]

When I hear about things like this, I'd really like to belive in karma.

Instant Karma ( we all shine on ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gjUNdjBd3Q)

Seriously, I hope we can catch him.

[sirt8669]

I see it now lol

See what, the unclothed version of the pic in my sig? POST IT!!!

[Dealer Destro]

See what, the unclothed version of the pic in my sig? POST IT!!!

My piss poor linking skills in my post! I linked to the vehicle BST to post that rat's handle instead of the bad buyer/trader BST. :)

But if you have one handy feel free to share it! Might lighten the mood up a bit.

[Tom-1]

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment:

I'm pretty sure there's no appealing (cost-affirmative) legal action that can be taken at this point, especially since I'm sure Flint and whoever this alleged photographed thief is have gone to their respective states. Considering you don't know your alleged culprit's name it makes things distinctly more difficult.

Can you prove that set being held by the alleged thief in the photo is not his? I seriously doubt it. You're just assuming because you saw something suspicious - and by suspicious, I mean he is holding something EVERYONE had. That isn't evidence.

I am sorry someone - according to their friends - was so drunk he allegedly got taken advantage of by someone. Be more careful in the future.

Also, I would recommend that you be held personally responcible for any negative reaction that comes about because you name someone YOU SUPPOSE to be thief as one. That is a remarkable guess on your part unless the person is wearing a black bandit mask and a striped shirt.

Tom

[mr_david]

I think the name should be dropped if he in fact stole this item so everyone is able to avoid this person. I would like to know myself so I don't deal with him.

Yeah I get not wanting to put peoples names out in the open, but real I want nothing to do with someone like this in the future!

[solid.wii]

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hutch213/myblog/angry-mob.jpg

[lowlight27]

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hutch213/myblog/angry-mob.jpg

Absolutly! Solid.Wi FTW

[CVdelgado]

well i wanna know/see what the eff happened. what is the deadline? someone send me an interesting pm...

[Flint071]

Let me be clear on a few things.

First: I don't know that this person is on the Tank or even associated with the Tank - so nothing to out just yet. I also have no intent of a witchhunt. If this person realizes that they are in possession of an extra set and wants to do the right thing I am not going to run their name into the ground.

Second: While this is my set, it was already promised to KUSHVIPER in a trade. My level of interest in having the set returned is to honor that trade with one of my friends here on the Tank. He doesn't deserve to go without a set because of someone elses dishonesty.

Third : I am well aware that my level of intoxication played a part in this. And if not for my desire to get that set to Kush this thievery would not have been even spoken about. There is always a price to pay for your OWN actions, and I was drunk at Toy Convention in New Orleans.

But because I was trashed OF COURSE that makes thievery ok and I should probably be doing nothing to try to rectify the situation. It would only be unacceptable if the person who was stolen from was a sober and upstanding person. I thought our Community was better than that. And I am SURE that there would not be any similiar threads if the situation was reversed. But hey, no judgement right.

Fourth: I missed the opportunity to confront the person because by the time that the information came my way I was ten minutes from boarding my plane to return home. Darkwise and our crew were still in town but they could not coordinate the confrontation.

Thanks for your time.

[mr_david]

well i wanna know/see what the eff happened. what is the deadline? someone send me an interesting pm...

Same if this was a tanker please PM me.

[sirt8669]

I did meet you Flint071 and I am not sure if you remember that whole cutting in line incident prior to going into the club store. Like you mentioned, being drunk does not make thievery ok. I just can't believe that this happened and I wonder if I was in there when it did. I would love to have seen it so I could have yelled it out and confronted this guy.

Also, thanks for loading me up with OG13 stickers LOL

[Flint071]

I did meet you Flint071 and I am not sure if you remember that whole cutting in line incident prior to going into the club store. Like you mentioned, being drunk does not make thievery ok. I just can't believe that this happened and I wonder if I was in there when it did. I would love to have seen it so I could have yelled it out and confronted this guy.

Also, thanks for loading me up with OG13 stickers LOL

LOL - I do remember that (vaguely) - damn twelve pack while waiting in line.

[Spectre]

The fact that the victim (FireFly) was or wasn’t intoxicated is completely irrelevant.
True enough it was not the best judgment call, but the theft remains such as it is, A Theft.
Having said that, witness accounts and supposed photo evidence may not be very reliable. I am not saying the theft did not occur, I am questioning if these people saw the actual theft in progress and therefore have the correct person identified. As I have neither heard or read any of the witness statements and have not seen the photographic evidence, I wouldn’t want to say this person or that is the culprit. To throw someone’s name out based on the assumption of guilt equates to no more than a lynch mob response.
The fact that someone is selling a set without the certificate is compelling but not conclusive. As an investigator for many years I can tell you in a case like this, you need to tread carefully in saying who is the thief and who is an inexperienced seller.

[krisk]

one thing though....in the club table each person is working with there own sales person, you are standing next to someone else but there is plenty of space to put your stuff...
the way I understand it is that the guy put his set on top of FLINT's and walked away with both......thats a classic lift/theft move....

[Fox]

People get drunk at Toy conventions?

[goukisama]

I ran into that guy that got his set stolen. I said kick some ass but he wanted to be peaceful.

[Flint071]

The fact that the victim (FireFly) was or wasn’t intoxicated is completely irrelevant.
True enough it was not the best judgment call, but the theft remains such as it is, A Theft.
Having said that, witness accounts and supposed photo evidence may not be very reliable. I am not saying the theft did not occur, I am questioning if these people saw the actual theft in progress and therefore have the correct person identified. As I have neither heard or read any of the witness statements and have not seen the photographic evidence, I wouldn’t want to say this person or that is the culprit. To throw someone’s name out based on the assumption of guilt equates to no more than a lynch mob response.
The fact that someone is selling a set without the certificate is compelling but not conclusive. As an investigator for many years I can tell you in a case like this, you need to tread carefully in saying who is the thief and who is an inexperienced seller.

Hence - I am being mindful of my actions in this matter.

And just because this has been posted on the Tank means nothing - the same article / thread is on half a dozen toy forums.

I would just like to see Kush get his set.

[Spectre]

one thing though....in the club table each person is working with there own sales person, you are standing next to someone else but there is plenty of space to put your stuff...
the way I understand it is that the guy put his set on top of FLINT's and walked away with both......thats a classic lift/theft move....
True, and I am not saying it wasn't this guy, I'm saying be sure. If someone saw what you described, then I would say intent is very clear.

[Tom-1]

I would love for you to have been able to 'confront' this alleged thief in person so the police could arrive and - as a mature, educated individual - they could tell you that you have no claim: a person does not have to prove they purchased something due to a complaint (a stranger cannot come into my house (or hotel room) and say I stole his couch and thus I must present the reporting officer with a bill of sale) and better yet that you are more likely to be arrested for harassing and, I'm going to guess based on your probable behavior, threatening someone.

It would have been an interesting affair for you. XD

Tom

[Spectre]

Hence - I am being mindful of my actions in this matter.

And just because this has been posted on the Tank means nothing - the same article / thread is on half a dozen toy forums.

I would just like to see Kush get his set.
I agree with you and your actions on this Flint. You are going about it the best way possible at this time.
Also bud, I am sorry that this had to happen to ya.

[krisk]

People get drunk at Toy conventions?

nope people get drunk prior to toy conventions and after, then before, and the the next day and then......oh hell you get the idea! haha

but really, the point is that the guy drunk or sober should not have had his set lifted by a fellow attendee!

[Turtle Master]

The fact that someone is selling a set without the certificate is compelling but not conclusive. As an investigator for many years I can tell you in a case like this, you need to tread carefully in saying who is the thief and who is an inexperienced seller.

[Immediately clicks on Spectre's 'For Sale' link.]

[krisk]

True, and I am not saying it wasn't this guy, I'm saying be sure. If someone saw what you described, then I would say intent is very clear.

true that, if I wouldve saw it, but at the time I was trying to keep DW from getting booted.......and then me along with him! haha

[Spectre]

[Immediately clicks on Spectre's 'For Sale' link.]
LOL. Good luck with that!

[Dealer Destro]

nope people get drunk prior to toy conventions and after, then before, and the the next day and then......oh hell you get the idea! haha

but really, the point is that the guy drunk or sober should not have had his set lifted by a fellow attendee!

Just drunk? Peeps don't smoke before a toy convention? lmao!

And yes your last part about sums it up. I am sure that given the people I know in this place, if someone knows something or has shred of information, shit will get done. Nerdyness aside, I am sure motherfuckers on here can come correct like a Nate Dog and Warren G Regulator video if shit really hit the fan. Have you seen DW? From his pics he doesn't look like the kinda guy I would want to explain why I had a CON set w/o a cert of auth to, if his buddy was missing one. Know what I am saying?

[BigErn]

People get drunk at Toy conventions?

If I went I would have been drunk too, it's fun for some people and this whole blaming (I'm not accusing you of this btw) the victim because he was drunk is bullshit. Scalpers are one thing but blatant theft wow, hell of a community we've got here.

[Flint071]

I would love for you to have been able to 'confront' this alleged thief in person so the police could arrive and - as a mature, educated individual - they could tell you that you have no claim: a person does not have to prove they purchased something due to a complaint (a stranger cannot come into my house (or hotel room) and say I stole his couch and thus I must present the reporting officer with a bill of sale) and better yet that you are more likely to be arrested for harassing and, I'm going to guess based on your probably behavior, threatening someone.

It would have been an interesting affair for you. XD

Tom

I think confrontation would have been had we been able to catch him - in the act. However, there are those pesky reciepts that actually showed how many sets you bought.

And my probably behavior would have led to public drunkeness charges and a night in the drunk Tank.

But you are absolutely right on all counts.

[krisk]

I would love for you to have been able to 'confront' this alleged thief in person so the police could arrive and - as a mature, educated individual - they could tell you that you have no claim: a person does not have to prove they purchased something due to a complaint (a stranger cannot come into my house (or hotel room) and say I stole his couch and thus I must present the reporting officer with a bill of sale) and better yet that you are more likely to be arrested for harassing and, I'm going to guess based on your probable behavior, threatening someone.

It would have been an interesting affair for you. XD

Tom

but they were in public and the "thief" would have had to have a bill of sale for each one he picked up or he wouldnt have been able to pick it up....it is required by the club that you bring your invoice with you to the registration....so not the same as coming into your house or hotel room, and if someone would have spoken up at the time the guy couldve been stopped before he left that area, there were police and security there.....

[KushViper]

Yo flint. Call me.

[Flint071]

true that, if I wouldve saw it, but at the time I was trying to keep DW from getting booted.......and then me along with him! haha

It all makes sense now - you were the distraction...you sonofa...LMAO.

[crock master]

that is one expensive drink.

[krisk]

Yo flint. Call me.

now we see the other victim to this senseless crime!

[goukisama]

I think confrontation would have been had we been able to catch him - in the act. However, there are those pesky reciepts that actually showed how many sets you bought.

And my probably behavior would have led to public drunkeness charges and a night in the drunk Tank.

But you are absolutely right on all counts.

Ha, drunk tank.

[krisk]

It all makes sense now - you were the distraction...you sonofa...LMAO.

damn you were not supposed to be able to pick up on that!

[sbartek1974]

Well, I didn't get to go to the Con. So it wasn't me. :)

[Tom-1]

I think confrontation would have been had we been able to catch him - in the act. However, there are those pesky reciepts that actually showed how many sets you bought.

To be fair now, there is no law against second-hand purchases. If I buy my set properly and on the up and up, walk out to the lobby and some guy comes up to me and says "Hello. I would like to buy that." and we do business, he's not buying a gun or a car - the only thing we need to exchange is cash. Our information flow ends there. He never has to prove he bought it in one fashion or another.

And of course, if you spotted the guy doing it at the moment, you'd be well within your rights to pitch one heck of a fit.

I realize your situation is a crummy one but at least you're being partially reasonable. That's good of you.

Tom

[PhantomStranger]

I'm quite surprised at the lack of video footage of the event taking place. It's rather disheartening knowing that this happened and no security camera or even a random Joe fan with an iphone caught anything (Thus far) to help out.

[krisk]

I'm quite surprised at the lack of video footage of the event taking place. It's rather disheartening knowing that this happened and no security camera or even a random Joe fan with an iphone caught anything (Thus far) to help out.

there are rumored pics of the incident in question......only time will tell......unless of course The Shadow pops up and points the guy out!

[lowlight27]

To be fair now, there is no law against second-hand purchases. If I buy my set properly and on the up and up, walk out to the lobby and some guy comes up to me and says "Hello. I would like to buy that." and we do business, he's not buying a gun or a car - the only thing we need to exchange is cash. Our information flow ends there. He never has to prove he bought it in one fashion or another.

And of course, if you spotted the guy doing it at the moment, you'd be well within your rights to pitch one heck of a fit.

I realize your situation is a crummy one but at least you're being partially reasonable. That's good of you.

Tom

But with something that exclusive, you better have a COA, or its gonna be worth a Fart in the wind!

[CG76]

Why didn't anyone say anything if it happened right in front of people? How did the item get stolen? Was it swiped?

[sirt8669]

Flint or Krisk, give me a time frame so I can check my pics to see if I caught anything.

[krisk]

Why didn't anyone say anything if it happened right in front of people? How did the item get stolen? Was it swiped?

thats part of the issue, people did see it, but no one spoke up till later.....THATs almost as bad as the crime.....

[Ford]

If the guy is a good thief, he probably could have taken the set from you whether you were sober or drunk, so don't feel bad about it. Unfortunately, if the guy has any sense he'll just keep your set for himself and sell the one he has a certificate for.

I didn't mean to sound critical of you in the other thread. In no was it your fault. The bottom line is scum is all around us, and we all need to keep our guard up.

[Firefly9145]

damn that sucks. i hate dudes like that. wish flint the best in the future

****STAFF EDIT! DO NOT DROP F_BOMBS ON THE FORUM!

[krisk]

Flint or Krisk, give me a time frame so I can check my pics to see if I caught anything.

I have no idea........sorry

[ChaplainAsst]

To be fair now, there is no law against second-hand purchases. If I buy my set properly and on the up and up, walk out to the lobby and some guy comes up to me and says "Hello. I would like to buy that." and we do business, he's not buying a gun or a car - the only thing we need to exchange is cash. Our information flow ends there. He never has to prove he bought it in one fashion or another.

And of course, if you spotted the guy doing it at the moment, you'd be well within your rights to pitch one heck of a fit.

I realize your situation is a crummy one but at least you're being partially reasonable. That's good of you.

Tom

Sure but it's against the law to buy stolen items. If it is proven to be stolen, the cops can confiscate it. Thus, it we behoove anyone to ask for a coa.

[Spectre]

thats part of the issue, people did see it, but no one spoke up till later.....THATs almost as bad as the crime.....
That sir is Cowardice. To see this going on and say "it doesn't involve me", pure cowardice.

[MonkeyBoyZ]

If you do locate the person and they have decided it wasn't an honest mistake, I think you can use small claims court if you have evidence of it happening.

[mr_david]

Let me be clear on a few things.

First: I don't know that this person is on the Tank or even associated with the Tank - so nothing to out just yet. I also have no intent of a witchhunt. If this person realizes that they are in possession of an extra set and wants to do the right thing I am not going to run their name into the ground.

Second: While this is my set, it was already promised to KUSHVIPER in a trade. My level of interest in having the set returned is to honor that trade with one of my friends here on the Tank. He doesn't deserve to go without a set because of someone elses dishonesty.

Third : I am well aware that my level of intoxication played a part in this. And if not for my desire to get that set to Kush this thievery would not have been even spoken about. There is always a price to pay for your OWN actions, and I was drunk at Toy Convention in New Orleans.

But because I was trashed OF COURSE that makes thievery ok and I should probably be doing nothing to try to rectify the situation. It would only be unacceptable if the person who was stolen from was a sober and upstanding person. I thought our Community was better than that. And I am SURE that there would not be any similiar threads if the situation was reversed. But hey, no judgement right.

Fourth: I missed the opportunity to confront the person because by the time that the information came my way I was ten minutes from boarding my plane to return home. Darkwise and our crew were still in town but they could not coordinate the confrontation.

Thanks for your time.

You being trashed has nothing to do with said persons motivations. I feel, for you sir and this whole thing makes me sick!
On a side note, I had some tool-box push my wife...who at the time was holding my two year old daughter, during the parachute drop. Both me and her brother where on the roof dropping the troops down having a blast. At no point in my mind did I think my family maybe in danger. …just sad!

My wife told me after he tried to push her down and failed to grasp a Para trooper he jumped to the ground and crawled under the fence to get one. ..Again just sad!

I hope this was not a tanker! When did it come to this really people stealing and pushing down women and children for Joes?

[DESTRO]

What if it get's dropped in here: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-sell-trade-feedback/35514-bad-traders-buyers-sellers-list.html

And not the name, just the username/handle/boardID


I mean.... c'mon ......er....... Destro SR???? lol.

If it did not occur on HISSTANK.com it should not be placed in the BST that is used for HISSTANK.com trades.

I'm sure people will find out who this person is without posting this information in public. It could all turn out to be a mistake somebody made and I hope Flint gets his box set back.

[Flint071]

Flint or Krisk, give me a time frame so I can check my pics to see if I caught anything.

I'll check my credit card receipt - I bought the 12" Set about that time.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I hope this was not a tanker! When did it come to this really people stealing and pushing down women and children for Joes?

Money man...its all about the money...you get this behavior outta humans when the gain exceeds the risk...filthy species...I am so unproud of being one lol...I hope i reincarnate as a bunny rabbit or a deer...at least being hit by a speeding car or being shot for dinner will be more humane then bieng a huaman...

[Flint071]

If it did not occur on HISSTANK.com it should not be placed in the BST that is used for HISSTANK.com trades.

I'm sure people will find out who this person is without posting this information in public. It could all turn out to be a mistake somebody made and I hope Flint gets his box set back.

Agreed - thanks.

[1982]

Sorry to hear about that Flint, guy sound like a real dick sandwhich, you know you are what you eat.

[firefox91]

It was mentioned at least 4 or 5 times that everyone should make sure they have the COA otherwise the set is worthless or something. How so? I hate to say it, but that COA really is a meaningless piece of paper. People sell the sets all the time without them. The bagged sets don't come with them. And if the thief breaks up the set and sells individually, the COA is completely taken out of the equation. I hate to hear about people getting ripped off, I really do. But that COA isn't going to do a thing to get that set back or prevent it from being sold.

[the odinson]

It was mentioned at least 4 or 5 times that everyone should make sure they have the COA otherwise the set is worthless or something. How so? I hate to say it, but that COA really is a meaningless piece of paper. People sell the sets all the time without them. The bagged sets don't come with them. And if the thief breaks up the set and sells individually, the COA is completely taken out of the equation. I hate to hear about people getting ripped off, I really do. But that COA isn't going to do a thing to get that set back or prevent it from being sold.

yup.

[Flint071]

I'm quite surprised at the lack of video footage of the event taking place. It's rather disheartening knowing that this happened and no security camera or even a random Joe fan with an iphone caught anything (Thus far) to help out.

Actually the Hilton is being very helpful with that aspect - but the person I need to contact will not be available until after the 4th.

Again - I wish I knew what I was looking for before I got on my plane.

Damn fuzzy details.

[krisk]

If it did not occur on HISSTANK.com it should not be placed in the BST that is used for HISSTANK.com trades.

I'm sure people will find out who this person is without posting this information in public. It could all turn out to be a mistake somebody made and I hope Flint gets his box set back.

True that!

I dont think the guy is a tanker anyway......

[CrimsonGuard101]

It was mentioned at least 4 or 5 times that everyone should make sure they have the COA otherwise the set is worthless or something. How so? I hate to say it, but that COA really is a meaningless piece of paper. People sell the sets all the time without them. The bagged sets don't come with them. And if the thief breaks up the set and sells individually, the COA is completely taken out of the equation. I hate to hear about people getting ripped off, I really do. But that COA isn't going to do a thing to get that set back or prevent it from being sold.

Only way the COA would be beneficial is if each figure and box (would need to be a metal box at that) were engraved with individual numbers that linked back to the COA and then a copy of those numbers and COA on file with the club...if the numbers were scratched off you would know there was some tomfoolery going on...

[Flint071]

It was mentioned at least 4 or 5 times that everyone should make sure they have the COA otherwise the set is worthless or something. How so? I hate to say it, but that COA really is a meaningless piece of paper. People sell the sets all the time without them. The bagged sets don't come with them. And if the thief breaks up the set and sells individually, the COA is completely taken out of the equation. I hate to hear about people getting ripped off, I really do. But that COA isn't going to do a thing to get that set back or prevent it from being sold.

I don't think the COA is going to be a dealbreaker for resale or the lack of one more than a passing thought to someone - but every little bit helps.

COA would have been handy that night, as would the receipt and me not being four times the legal alcohol limit (thats the hospital told me anyway)

[estanley1974]

12 pages on this topic...seems like a path to nowhere. If you have evidence, call police. Rather simple actually.

[C.I.A.D.]

Flint, I'm so sorry, man. That really does suck. Needless to say, lesson learned - Leave the box set in your room before getting schnitfaced.

I hope that this is circulating around enough boards that someone who knows something comes forward.

[krisk]

It was mentioned at least 4 or 5 times that everyone should make sure they have the COA otherwise the set is worthless or something. How so? I hate to say it, but that COA really is a meaningless piece of paper. People sell the sets all the time without them. The bagged sets don't come with them. And if the thief breaks up the set and sells individually, the COA is completely taken out of the equation. I hate to hear about people getting ripped off, I really do. But that COA isn't going to do a thing to get that set back or prevent it from being sold.

yeah if it was numbered it would do something about showing ownership at the time the guy took it, but after that........its toast

[lowlight27]

I think the Thief sold your set for a new necklace!
http://www.seyegosucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fathairyman.jpg (http://www.seyegosucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fathairyman.jpg)

[Flint071]

Flint, I'm so sorry, man. That really does suck. Needless to say, lesson learned - Leave the box set in your room before getting schnitfaced.

I hope that this is circulating around enough boards that someone who knows something comes forward.

Thanks Brother -

Like I said - if it was for me I would have shrugged it off and went about my drunken day. But Kush is a good dude.

I'm 34 man, I have never been known for making good decisions when drinking.....figure it will do no good to start now.

[Mermaniel]

Remember snakeeyes00?......was it a fat dude with glasses and a dirty beard?

[percehonson]

I'm sure that narrows it down.

[TofuNinja]

I hope you get find out who the bastard thief is bro. Karma will be repaid :D

[drunknmunky]

GI Joe PSA Stealing - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKmRG8virk)

[KushViper]

I don't even know what to say at this point. The whole thing sucks and we all hope the perp can be brought to some kind of justice, if not from law, than from the community. Hopefully some evidence in the way of pics or video does come to light that will either prove the suspect is guilty or exonerate him. It's just a big bummer.

I had fun hanging out with Flint and DW and all you other guys down there. Good times despite that the con was kinda wonky this year.

[C.I.A.D.]

was it a fat dude with glasses and a dirty beard?

I'm sure that narrows it down.


Bazinga!

[mister-x]

justice for Flint bumpy

[krisk]

I hope you get find out who the bastard thief is bro. Karma will be repaid :D

hey did you read my Karma story earlier!?

[lucard123]

Tom
Part of me wants to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you are just someone who needs to take the "opposite side" or devil's advocate just for the sake of filling some void but you truly are coming off in your posts as that one friend we all have that we just accept as "that guy" and promptly try to ignore. This is about someone, a fellow tanker and good overall good guy, getting something stolen and whether the person was intoxicated when it happened does not make it any less of a theft. Feel bad for the guy to some degree because as human beings that is what we do when someone has something bad happen, don't buy a possible stolen set if you have a conscience and the rest is just drama. No need for it.

I would love for you to have been able to 'confront' this alleged thief in person so the police could arrive and - as a mature, educated individual - they could tell you that you have no claim: a person does not have to prove they purchased something due to a complaint (a stranger cannot come into my house (or hotel room) and say I stole his couch and thus I must present the reporting officer with a bill of sale) and better yet that you are more likely to be arrested for harassing and, I'm going to guess based on your probable behavior, threatening someone.

It would have been an interesting affair for you. XD

Tom

[Saboteur]

People get drunk at Toy conventions?

One of the best parts of Celebration. The Hoth Ice bar is one of the better places to chill and hang out with likeminded fans.

[Mermaniel]

Bazinga!

Lol.

[mightyjl]

was it a fat dude with glasses and a dirty beard?

That really doesn't help to narrow it down. I'm sure 90% of the people at the con were fat dudes with glasses and dirty beards.

[krisk]

That really doesn't help to narrow it down. I'm sure 90% of the people at the con were fat dudes with glasses and dirty beards.

and cargo shorts.......it was like a Old Navy commercial.....only fatter!!

[07GT500 COBRA]

Damn. I hope they got him on video. I watched my goods like a hawk. Sorry, man.

[Havok]

I've had a lot of stuff stolen from me in my life, and not too much feels worse. So you can imagine what I think of thieves. I hope this was reported to the police and they arrest this person and ban them for life from JoeCon.

[goukisama]

That really doesn't help to narrow it down. I'm sure 90% of the people at the con were fat dudes with glasses and dirty beards.

I shaved and i left my glasses in my car.

[mightyjl]

I shaved and i left my glasses in my car.

I guess you stuck out like a sore thumb

[Kungfuguy]

Do barbie collectors behave like this?

[PhantomStranger]

Do barbie collectors behave like this?

Yes. Most fandoms suffer from having a few bad apples and even full blown crazy people.

Remember Cabbage patch dolls? Or Beanie Babies? Poor kids and adults getting trampled.

[krisk]

bump

[sci-find]

what the hay.... bump

[tycondrius]

Do barbie collectors behave like this?
nope but this sounds like the actions of a hotwheels collector ;P

[kuh_rupht]

I've been thinking after reading about this, I would like to help the person who had his con set stolen get a new one. I will donate the first $100, I know if we all pitch in a little bit we can help out a fellow tanker. If you would like to help speak up

[Headman]

Can't believe this happened among this community, but one of our own, Flint071 had his Ocktober Guard set stolen right from under him from a fellow collector and Im sure a scalper. At Flint's discretion, we're not going to name names yet, but know that we do have witnesses and photographic evidence and we know who did it!
So Be On the Look Out for someone trying to sell a set over the next few day and make sure you get a Certificate of Authenticity, because that was the one thing he wasn't able to take.
I hope this is okay to post and we can bring this guy to justice.
Yo Joe!

Flint knows damn well it was me who took his set. He also knows how he's gonna get it back. Tell him to bring his own knee pads this time.

[hurricane]

thievery is wrong. and it sucks that somebody would do that.

but I am sorry that I don't feel bad for a guy boasting that he was 4 times the legal blood-alcohol limit. And what time was it? like 6pm?

priorities man. priorities.

maybe somebody needs an intervention lol

[tycondrius]

you know most convention over here that run more then one day the usual premies is to get smashed on the first night. maybe flint was still suffering from that? still think its a crappy situation.

[Flint071]

I've been thinking after reading about this, I would like to help the person who had his con set stolen get a new one. I will donate the first $100, I know if we all pitch in a little bit we can help out a fellow tanker. If you would like to help speak up

While that is an awesome guesture - it's unnecessary.

For me it's not about the money, it's about the action, just having this level of awareness out there is what I was looking for.

Plus - while I did get robbed, it was also in part to my high level of intoxication.

[Flint071]

thievery is wrong. and it sucks that somebody would do that.

but I am sorry that I don't feel bad for a guy boasting that he was 4 times the legal blood-alcohol limit. And what time was it? like 6pm?

priorities man. priorities.

maybe somebody needs an intervention lol


I wasn't four times the legal limit at the Con - I kept drinking until 4AM.

I do need an intervention - damn toys are getting expensive.

[Flint071]

Flint knows damn well it was me who took his set. He also knows how he's gonna get it back. Tell him to bring his own knee pads this time.

Those roofiecoolata you gave me were delicious.

And why do I only have one kidney now.

[Troynos]

true that, if I wouldve saw it, but at the time I was trying to keep DW from getting booted.......and then me along with him! haha

You make it sound like you're proud of your friend and you almost getting booted.

Not something I'd be laughing about. Would be keeping a low profile due to the extreme embarassment of almost being kicked out of Joecon.









From different people I've heard lots of things that make it sound like Joecon was beseiged by douchebags this year. Theft, assholes and lots more that ruin the experience for all the other congoers.

[Tanksmasher]

While that is an awesome guesture - it's unnecessary.

For me it's not about the money, it's about the action, just having this level of awareness out there is what I was looking for.

Plus - while I did get robbed, it was also in part to my high level of intoxication.

Couldn't you just give Kush a set you bought for yourself?

[Cobra Terrorist]

Remember snakeeyes00?......was it a fat dude with glasses and a dirty beard?

I'm sure that narrows it down.

and cargo shorts.......it was like a Old Navy commercial.....only fatter!!

LOL - That's great.



Sorry to hear about your situation, Flint! Keep us posted...

[drunknmunky]

From different people I've heard lots of things that make it sound like Joecon was beseiged by douchebags this year. Theft, assholes and lots more that ruin the experience for all the other congoers.

I think this is because Joe Con is more about making money off of the exclusives than the convention itself. It's no longer about meeting people, having fun, enjoying the hobby and discovering the city. Instead it's get a hotel, get drunk and make a shit load off the exclusives and boxed set.

[dewrag]

It's a truly shittty thing that happened. I just hope it's not someone you know that did this to you...

[Cdt Weasel]

Lesson learned, dont get highly intoxicated at family friendly events lol.

[krisk]

You make it sound like you're proud of your friend and you almost getting booted.

Not something I'd be laughing about. Would be keeping a low profile due to the extreme embarassment of almost being kicked out of Joecon.

From different people I've heard lots of things that make it sound like Joecon was beseiged by douchebags this year. Theft, assholes and lots more that ruin the experience for all the other congoers.

At that time of this we had been in line for almost 3 hours and they had been in line for over 4 hours.....and all that really happened was that he yelled my name out and said something like glad to see you fuc&er....to which one of the club guys came instantly unglued and yelled at him to shut up and not speak that way, and if he continued to behave like that he would have the cops to take him out of there! From there it just got heated until the cop came over and calmed both of them down....DW had a slip of the tounge and the club guy over reacted.
But implying we were glad it happened or whatever is bs, I am happy that he didnt get booted but at the same time the club guy was way overboard. I even heard them talking and gloating about it later and then a couple times during the weekend heard others talking about how they put some dumb collector in his place or threatened to kick someone out.
So yeah, I think tempers and attitudes were pretty awful this weekend, and much douchebaggery was afoot!

[Sithcobra]

i feel extremely bad for flint about getting robbed....but i must ask was he gonna keep em or rob ppl like everyone else is doin on ebay??

[PinewoodCobra]

Awareness bump. Let's catch a thief!

[krisk]

I think this is because Joe Con is more about making money off of the exclusives than the convention itself. It's no longer about meeting people, having fun, enjoying the hobby and discovering the city. Instead it's get a hotel, get drunk and make a shit load off the exclusives and boxed set.

well it was New Olreans and thats what they promote; drink, eat and gamble.......there are other things to do, but if you are at the con all day by the time you get out there are not a lot of attractions still going.

I still say NOLA is not a great Joe or any type of TOY convention....there is not enough of a diverse arena of things to do for families...especially not when you spend 3/4s of the day in the con.

[krisk]

i feel extremely bad for flint about getting robbed....but i must ask was he gonna keep em or rob ppl like everyone else is doin on ebay??

well if you read the posts he made, he was giving it to a friend! Kushviper....

[C.I.A.D.]

i feel extremely bad for flint about getting robbed....but i must ask was he gonna keep em or rob ppl like everyone else is doin on ebay??



Rob - Take property unlawfully from (a person or place) by force or threat of force.

Since people are paying the prices they see on eBay, it wouldn't be considered robbing unless the person doesn't receive the item they paid for.

Commentary like this is unnecessary.

[krisk]

yep C.I.A.D. killed the thread.........

[Dealer Destro]

i feel extremely bad for flint about getting robbed....but i must ask was he gonna keep em or rob ppl like everyone else is doin on ebay??

You know I felt like a dick after I made a post in the is thievery worng thread, about golden parachutes,and yeah when I heard it was Flint I felt like a real dick head. Why, because I consider him a comrade in arms. But your post sir, is the ultimate in DHS (Dick Head Shit) and Douchebaggery. All he was trying to do was help a fellow tanker out and you come in here and throw out stupid shit like this. Good job asshole.

[DESTRO]

I warned everybody how this thread was going to work. Since we can't all talk like adults it's now locked. Please do not start another one like it.