Ebay Insanity!

[ShadowBat]

This past year I have ventured off to the money void that is ebay in hope of filling some holes in my collection. What I had quickly come to realize was that my estimates on what I had planned to pay for something and the actual price where drastically different, with my wallet coming out on the short end. I never thought I would be paying more than a "G" for a complete FLAGG, and I especially didn't count on the INSANE prices for the Defiant (which I have yet to pull the trigger on). Being a person that collects most ARAH stuff and post 25th, I have found myself venturing off again to Ebay in hopes of scoring some of the recent convention stuff. With a solid load in my pants and a horrified frown on my face, I quickly realized that some of these CON exclusives were never going to find their way into my collection. $200 for Darklon and Sgt. Major...WTF!!! I wonder what the actual mark up is on that??? $600 - $700 for the Grenadier vs. October Guard sets...REALLY!!! Since I never had a chance to make it to a CON yet, what are the actual prices attendees get to purchase these things for? How much of this insanity on Ebay is just sellers taking a rubber fist to us less fortunate JOE collectors? What I am looking for in this post is other Tankers to share their "hey, I think I just got f*cked on this purchase" Ebay stories. Some times JOE passion dominate financial logic, so lets share a story or two.

[CVdelgado]

this is the way things are bro. either get used to big spending, or get used to not having some items in your collection.

[fireflyguy]

Dude, I've noticed the prices are INSANE. Not just for con stuff, but for everything! What's with the RoC and PoC stuff being so expensive? I'm really beginning to hate eBay.

[Zarana X]

With a solid load in my pants ...
I'm not sure that means what you think it means.

The prices for attendees were listed before the con, they were fairly expensive. I think about $80 for the Darklon set and $100 for the old timey truck with the canopy. Don't recall any others.

[SonOfMindbender]

Others will pay those prices in a heartbeat. Price out how much it costs to a Con (hotel, travel, food, booze) and you'll realize it's not too bad if you need a few items. On another note, It took me over a year to complete a mint condition Defiant. If I was to sell it, you bet it's not going for under $600.00.

[krisk]

pretty much what CV said, prices have been going up and up since the hit of 25th stuff......yes I overpaid for somethings but other times if you are patient and watch a lot of auctions you can get some items for reasonable prices....I bought a complete Defiant(no box) shipped for $550 which I feel was high, but the two complete figs sell for $150 to $200......and shipping has got to be $50 to $75 easy......

[krisk]

Others will pay those prices in a heartbeat. Price out how much it costs to a Con (hotel, travel, food, booze) and you'll realize it's not too bad if you need a few items. On another note, It took me over a year to complete a mint condition Defiant. If I was to sell it, you bet it's not going for under $600.00.

$140 a night at the con hotel, $15 for a burger, $3 for cokes or bottled water......it adds up fast!

[This I Command!]

$200 for Darklon and Sgt. Major...WTF!!! I wonder what the actual mark up is on that??? $600 - $700 for the Grenadier vs. October Guard sets...REALLY!!! Since I never had a chance to make it to a CON yet, what are the actual prices attendees get to purchase these things for?

Well I've attended the last two cons, and while I can understand your frustration (because I used to experience it too) this is where you have to make the decision if it's worth it to you to attend the show and get these items at cost. I think you may be surprised at the price breakdown. This year for me to attend the show and get the exclusives I had to:

buy a $44 club membership
a $355 dollar convention ticket
plane tickets
a rental car
3 nights at the hotel
food and gas expenses in NOLA
wait in monster lines (sometimes up to 2 hours)
pay for the attendee items (which aren't cheap to begin with)
and then find a way to get these items home in good condition, which isn't easy in the case of something like carded Footloose.

So while the mark up is high on these items, when you take in to consideration what all goes in to acquiring them it may not be the same scenario as you thought. Now for people that live in the area and have golden ticket it would be a completely different story, but for those of us who didn't, and had to travel you can see where the expenses eat up nearly any profits that could be made on the exclusives.

[sithlordsmart]

Yup which is why I have no con sets. I have a pink zarana, and a black suot cobra commander I got for a good deal. It is expensive for a hobby even without the con stuff. But whatever makes you happy. Your collection is what you make of it.

[Snow_Serpent]

Well I've attended the last two cons, and while I can understand your frustration (because I used to experience it too) this is where you have to make the decision if it's worth it to you to attend the show and get these items at cost. I think you may be surprised at the price breakdown. This year for me to attend the show and get the exclusives I had to:

buy a $44 club membership
a $355 dollar convention ticket
plane tickets
a rental car
3 nights at the hotel
food and gas expenses in NOLA
wait in monster lines (sometimes up to 2 hours)
pay for the attendee items (which aren't cheap to begin with)
and then find a way to get these items home in good condition, which isn't easy in the case of something like carded Footloose.

So while the mark up is high on these items, when you take in to consideration what all goes in to acquiring them it may not be the same scenario as you thought. Now for people that live in the area and have golden ticket it would be a completely different story, but for those of us who didn't, and had to travel you can see where the expenses eat up nearly any profits that could be made on the exclusives.

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

[CrimsonGuard101]

this is the way things are bro. either get used to big spending, or get used to not having some items in your collection.

No... were getting ridiculous now...theres comes a point where pricing is so outrageous its not even worth buying....$40-$50 a figure is what I would expect...not $120 per figure...if this inflation holds figures next year will be $200-$250 a figure...the price increase on the exclusives is exponentially increasing at a geometric rate...its not a simple cost of my trip tot he cons offset anymore...its madness...sheer madness...

I stand to spend another $500 for the SDCC items coming up...

[Xerofall]

They'll only sell on eBay for those prices if people are willing to pay. I've watched several exclusives start high, then after a year or two they go down.

I bought the SDCC Destro book figure set for $50 a few months after it came out. Now you can find it for $20. Currently the SDCC USA Slaughter is going anywhere from $40-$100, I happen to find it for $26 by chance.

Same with a clear Wraith, I looked everywhere for one, on eBay they were skyhigh at $50-$100. Then a whole bunch found their way to TJ Maxx almost two years later (or so) and I was able to get one. I checked eBay and the market was saturated by then because everyone bought a clear Wraith for $6.99 and tried to sell them for $50... Took a few months before they settled to $10.

I was able to pick up the con Python Tele-viper and Python Trooper for $90 and was happy to find just those two figures for sale rather than the entire box set for $700-$1000. I've had my eye on the Python Stinger. Currently its around $300, but no one is buying, so those sellers are going through all that trouble trying to get $$$ for a toy that was originally $60. I expect they will lower in a few more months or year.

The carded 25th Dial Tone was as high as $1500 on eBay at one point in time. Now its hovering around $200-$300.

Just be patient and keep plugging away at getting your collection filled.

As far as the Flagg or Defiant... Well, their not called the "holy grails" of the line for nothing. I don't see those going for less than you quoted.

[samantha]

The problem is not the price, it is what you are willing to pay. If you decided to do the Con you would have paid a lot but if you did the Con and purchased the exclusives you could reasonably sell the exclusives and paid so much less. I know scalping sucks but the reality of trying to reduce your Con costs by selling exclusives is a fact that many of us have to swallow. If I had to reduce my Out of pocket expense by selling exclusives I would do the same. I do not need to do this but I do see the rational. Just my 2 cents.

[This I Command!]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

No idea what you're talking about, because I'm not selling any of my exclusives, I didn't have golden ticket, so I don't have any "extra". Just trying to point out that while it looks like the people that are selling their items are making a mint, that when you factor in what it takes to acquire these items its not as lucrative as some may think.

[cobracobra]

I think I purchased my 2011 bagged set for about 450. Also got the 2 pack for under $120. Seems like not allot of people are buying the buy-it-now $650 sets very quickly. I have been watching all of them as they come on to ebay and they seem to not be moving.

I am not sure why people ration that going to a convention is work and people should be paying for them to eat a hamburger or stay in a hotel. I understand that GI JOE vacation is expensive but should I be paying for some ones hotel visit, and plane ticket just to get a bagged set?

[krisk]

Well I've attended the last two cons, and while I can understand your frustration (because I used to experience it too) this is where you have to make the decision if it's worth it to you to attend the show and get these items at cost. I think you may be surprised at the price breakdown. This year for me to attend the show and get the exclusives I had to:

buy a $44 club membership
a $355 dollar convention ticket
plane tickets-$400estimated
a rental car-$150
3 nights at the hotel-$420 at the con hotel.$140 per night..
food and gas expenses in NOLA-We spent $312.32 on eating out, for four days.....each meal was anywhere from $40 to $52......just a glass of OJ was $4..
wait in monster lines (sometimes up to 2 hours)Thursday nite we were there from 4:30 to almost 10pm before we left, actually had to stand in line from 7:35 to about 9:30 and we were in the cash line, others were waiting longer in the credit card line, I know one group that went in at 6:30 was getting to the club table at the same time as I was at 9:30...
pay for the attendee items (which aren't cheap to begin with)I personally spent just over $1000 at the club store on just Thursday night
and then find a way to get these items home in good condition, which isn't easy in the case of something like carded Footloose.

So while the mark up is high on these items, when you take in to consideration what all goes in to acquiring them it may not be the same scenario as you thought. Now for people that live in the area and have golden ticket it would be a completely different story, but for those of us who didn't, and had to travel you can see where the expenses eat up nearly any profits that could be made on the exclusives.

put some numbers up there to show a little money that gets put out of pocket........

For my wife and I, taking a vacation and going somewhere, NOLA would be last on the list if it even made the list, we have been there, several times, been to the museums and Bourbon Street, and the casinos, and rode on the trolley.....so for us it isnt/wasnt a vacation, it was a chance to go to the con for the first time, neither she nor I thought it would cost us almost a grand to pick up a handful of items as exclusives...

[Xerofall]

Honestly, if I were at the con I would've bought all the exclusives and sold most of them because I didn't personally like the motorcycle, helo or truck. I would've expected to get as much $$$ for them as I could. Anyone would.

[dewrag]

Well I've attended the last two cons, and while I can understand your frustration (because I used to experience it too) this is where you have to make the decision if it's worth it to you to attend the show and get these items at cost. I think you may be surprised at the price breakdown. This year for me to attend the show and get the exclusives I had to:

buy a $44 club membership
a $355 dollar convention ticket
plane tickets
a rental car
3 nights at the hotel
food and gas expenses in NOLA
wait in monster lines (sometimes up to 2 hours)
pay for the attendee items (which aren't cheap to begin with)
and then find a way to get these items home in good condition, which isn't easy in the case of something like carded Footloose.

So while the mark up is high on these items, when you take in to consideration what all goes in to acquiring them it may not be the same scenario as you thought. Now for people that live in the area and have golden ticket it would be a completely different story, but for those of us who didn't, and had to travel you can see where the expenses eat up nearly any profits that could be made on the exclusives.

Room Cost 180ish after taxes and extra person fee..
Cost to park the car 34 a night....oh but the hotel only charged us 30 what a deal....
If you wanted us the gym or internet it was 12.99 a day or free internet in the lobby...
my average dinner was between 20 to 30 a night... for lunch and breakfast I brought my own food....

Cost of our car getting booted in down town NO was 125 for pass swapping....

[Ruin]

Patience and fortutude are rare commodities these days. That people would expend so much of it to aquire exclusives is exactly why they sell for so much cash.

You're probably saving money (let alone time and aggravation) by paying the $1000 to buy them from some poor sap with a golden ticket.

[krisk]

oh and another thing.........how many of these people paid for multiple memberships to be able to get two or three exclusives. then if they asked double for the one of each they are selling, all they are getting paid for is the cost of two exclusives, one for the seller to keep and one to sell. Each registration, not counting Golden Tickets, was able to only get one of each exclusive, this year they did punch the cards and did hold everyone to that......there were still carded footloose figs out on Saturday Morning as well as most of the other exclusives, so even general admission folks couldve gotten something.......

[Viper6]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

not me, i went and feel justified making a fair profit, cause im recooping what i put into acquisition. hey...feel free to put time and $ into the process and score yours at cost, everyones invited.

[Viper6]

tell ya what, when i can afford it, i pay the outrageous price to have what i want (often do), and avoid that hellish line and trip. Joe con was my first con and it blew my mind how much BS we had to go through as attendees. then they completely fkd us on the parachute drop...without prior/proper warning.

[kuh_rupht]

Retail Cost at JoeCon

2 Pack (Darklon/Major) = $75 limit of 2
3 Pack = $85 limit of 1
Oktober Guard Truck = $99 limit of 1
Chopper = $70 limit of 1
Oktober/IG box set = $315 (not 100% on this one)

Plus the cost of the trip and what ever else the attendee wants to charge you.

[Xerofall]

It almost sounds like no one had any fun, lol, not my kind of vacation, let alone a hobby.

[Viper6]

It almost sounds like no one had any fun, lol, not my kind of vacation, let alone a hobby.

had a fkn blast after the line BS was done, scored some great deals from vendors, complete snow wolf for 15.00!

best part is networking and meeting fellow artists writers and designers. thats the real win.

[Xerofall]

Well that's cool, that's the part I would've enjoyed.

[spot138]

Did anyone go for fun, or is it all about fliping exclusives?

[Shadow Ninja]

Did anyone go for fun, or is it all about fliping exclusives?

Its all about going so you don't have to pay insane prices on Ebay... At this rate its.almost cheaper to go...

[chickenbroth]

$140 a night at the con hotel, $15 for a burger, $3 for cokes or bottled water......it adds up fast!

Yeah! Wasn't expecting to spend that much on food during the con. It added up real quick! Don't forget parking if you drove to the con.

[chickenbroth]

It almost sounds like no one had any fun, lol, not my kind of vacation, let alone a hobby.

I had a blast! My first con and not my last!

[Hit & Run]

Retail Cost at JoeCon

2 Pack (Darklon/Major) = $75 limit of 2
3 Pack = $85 limit of 1
Oktober Guard Truck = $99 limit of 1
Chopper = $70 limit of 1
Oktober/IG box set = $315 (not 100% on this one)

Plus the cost of the trip and what ever else the attendee wants to charge you.

I can't complain about the markup. I didn't pay much more than that to get all of the figures. Got the set from the Club and the 2 & 3 packs from eBay as soon as people started posting them. The prices skyrocketed on the 2 packs right after I bought my set.

My thing is that some con attendees couldn't get the 2 packs. That would have killed my fun right there. Not being guarenteed all of the exclusives when you do actually attend is rough.

[Snow_Serpent]

No idea what you're talking about, because I'm not selling any of my exclusives, I didn't have golden ticket, so I don't have any "extra". Just trying to point out that while it looks like the people that are selling their items are making a mint, that when you factor in what it takes to acquire these items its not as lucrative as some may think.

To be fair, I'm not calling you out or saying that's what you do. However, it is a common practice to 'score' extras to sell and try and cover con' costs. It's the same thing when people snatch up 'rare' or 'hot' items at retail to use as trade bait of resell to cover costs.

Not everybody does it, but too many colectors do.

[manic mailman]

I am gonna freak out if the club doesn't fulfill those 2pack orders

[cobracobra]

Sounds like a absolute nightmare to attend the convention.

[mikeTime]

I did not go this year but if I had I would have had some words for the Collector Club about there prices this year. They made no sence when you look at the price per figure breakdown. Bring an extra $100 my ass. More like $200 more from last year. $99 for a $10 Indy truck? Come on. Forget about the sclaping and the prices people are willing to pay. It's the club that's making this get out of hand. How could they sit there and talk about the second wave of sub figures when they can't even give us a price on the first wave or tell us when it will start. They sell carded ME figs for $25-30. Any more than that is insane. With the ammount they will be making the price should go down. MOTUC figs are cheaper and even will be after Mattel raises the price for next year.

The Club does not want to sit on any left over product so production #'s on Con sets will not go up no matter how many people respond to the email about producing more sets. They want a fast sell out and do not care who gets them. I know they limited purchases/ punched passes but I still heard about some BS going on.

The prices are what the market can bare. I cant see it getting much higher but I would not have paid the clubs price on much of that stuff.

[GeneralxRon]

I would pay some scalper for the figures..

that went to COn, paid for airfair, room, wait time etc..for his/her effort....

Why not? you expect to pay actual price of what they paid when they went thru all that to get them?

If you don't ..the cheap ass line is down the block..

[Blot]

The Truck and the Chopper went up high on friday I think, but they've levelled out now. I don't think $150 is a lot to pay for those if the club sold them for around $100. I think the $200+ that was being asked for on Friday was wishful thinking on the parts of those who attended.

I'm afraid $200 for Darklon and Sgt. Major and $245 for the three Annihilators does sound about right. I paid it. I paid $100 for the Snarler as well... although I think I snapped that up too early; I bought from e-bay as soon as they were revealed... just too excited to hang on I guess!

Not annoyed at prices of product at all.


Now... shipping on the other hand... that is horrible...

[Tucker]

All I have to say is that if you want the JoeCon Exclusives at the price we convention attendees get them at, go to a Con instead of crying about how much less fortunate you are.

Then and only then will you understand. I know how much I spent to go and get these sets. Why should you be given a break because you don't wanna go or can't go? I used a week of vacation from work and saved my money so I could afford the trip.

I still find it mind boggling that some of you are so obtuse. If you don't think you should pay for someone's expenses who went to the Con by paying an inflated price for the stuff on eBay, I suggest you go get your head examined...

[hahoo3]

Why do people expect to pay retail price for the exclusives on Ebay? Bringing up the cost of going to the Con is relevant. I spent $640 on a hotel, $200 on gas to drive there and back, $680 for my wife and I to attend, another $360 on the exclusives I wanted to buy and $500 on food and other expenses. I'm not complaining about what I spent to go, but last year I bought everything from the con on Ebay for 1/2 the price of actually going!! So if you really want the stuff, it's a Hell of a lot cheaper buying it off Ebay then going to the Con! Unless you live in the same town it's held in.

[fireflyguy]

I actually agree with you all who are talking about te expense of the Con in general. These items aren't being sold at Walmart retail prices to begin with, let alone the cost of airfare, gas, food, etc.

My beef is with eBay and eBay prices in general, but that's a different thread.

[firefox91]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

So what you are saying is that you have never been to a convention, huh?

To the OP: Complete Defiants and Flaggs are real pricey. If you are someone that can handle having a playset incomplete, you are far better off getting incomplete ones and getting the parts you really need to complete it. The Flagg itself has a ton of parts that can be missing and you wouldn't even notice if you just have it on display. Same can be said for the Defiant. Giving up the "complete" label on the purchase literally means saving hundreds of dollars. On the convention stuff, give it about a month and you will see the prices come down. The convention just ended, the hype is very high. Eventually people will start to forget about those items and demand will fall. You will still pay more, but not as bad as it is now. My advice, look while all the SDCC convention items are hitting the market. The focus will be on those and not so much JoeCon anymore. Look for items that end in the middle of the week or at odd hours. You will get better prices then.

[X-factorz]

All I have to say is that if you want the JoeCon Exclusives at the price we convention attendees get them at, go to a Con instead of crying about how much less fortunate you are.

Then and only then will you understand. I know how much I spent to go and get these sets. Why should you be given a break because you don't wanna go or can't go? I used a week of vacation from work and saved my money so I could afford the trip.

I still find it mind boggling that some of you are so obtuse. If you don't think you should pay for someone's expenses who went to the Con by paying an inflated price for the stuff on eBay, I suggest you go get your head examined...

It's funny that you use the word obtuse (which to clarify means annoyingly insensitive) to describe others while also acknowledging that others CAN'T GO (which implies a reason they CAN'T be there).

I haven't heard anybody crying for a break...only that they would like to be able to purchase products from a "collector's club" that they are paid members of. The scalping of the exclusives is BS because if it wasn't being done then the paid members of the club who CAN'T attend would be able to purchase them online once the con was over.

[Dealer Destro]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

Then don't buy from the sellers that engage in the practices you frown on.

I just solved your problem.

[firefox91]

It's funny that you use the word obtuse (which to clarify means annoyingly insensitive) to describe others while also acknowledging that others CAN'T GO (which implies a reason they CAN'T be there).

I haven't heard anybody crying for a break...only that they would like to be able to purchase products from a "collector's club" that they are paid members of. The scalping of the exclusives is BS because if it wasn't being done then the paid members of the club who CAN'T attend would be able to purchase them online once the con was over.

Typically the reason they can't go is the cost of going which is more expensive than the cost of paying someone on ebay for these exclusives. But the complaint is they don't want to pay to go and they don't want to pay inflated prices on ebay. Well, you can't always get what you want. Let's not forget, these are CONVENTION exclusives. Meaning you should go to the convention and expect to get them. They are not CLUB exclusives. Just because you are a member of the club doesn't mean a thing. The only reason people have this perception is because the club will sell extras on the website after he convention if there are any left over.

[SonOfMindbender]

I've always purchased the home front hero's package then scooped up the other figures online that weekend/week after. That's just the way it works if you don't go to the Con. Yes, prices this year are scary, but the cost of everything from production to travel is up! Wait a few years and maybe the prices will come down. You don't have to like it, but this is what some of us do.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Typically the reason they can't go is the cost of going which is more expensive than the cost of paying someone on ebay for these exclusives. But the complaint is they don't want to pay to go and they don't want to pay inflated prices on ebay. Well, you can't always get what you want. Let's not forget, these are CONVENTION exclusives. Meaning you should go to the convention and expect to get them. They are not CLUB exclusives. Just because you are a member of the club doesn't mean a thing. The only reason people have this perception is because the club will sell extras on the website after he convention if there are any left over.

Lets look at this way. Then why have the convention? Why not just make me go to some random point on the planet, pay my club $45, pay my "pickup" fee and just pay airfare to go to that random place get my items and leave? That is all the convention has become at this point, a tool to get people to spend some money with the club with the sole purpse to flip it and make even more profit themselves on ebay demand. The entire convention's concept is wasted at that point since all that is all it has as for intent and drive to go just to get exclusives to sell. Why bother with tours, guest speakers, panels, reveals of stuff you will never be able to buy and all of that, when all you do is go to stand in line and hope they dont sell out before you even get in the store? I would be pissed if I went, spent all of that money to go and could not get any of the items because of the sell outs this year.

Further more why not just offer club exclusives to the members in the first place and let us spend money direclty with them and quit doing conventions all together (that will save them a ton of money to spend on the sub service, more items ot offer through the store and maybe even get to the point of doing DTC level service) so we can all partake in the offerings that HASBRO should be providing us to begin with? If peeps still wanna have a random location get together for another unofficial con great have ti go spend $18,900 on booze and make your own customs to sell as exclusives and have at it...I want more offerings from the club I am a part of, not one social media event per year that is nothing more then an over-glorfied sales trap...is that to much to ask?

[krisk]

Yeah! Wasn't expecting to spend that much on food during the con. It added up real quick! Don't forget parking if you drove to the con.

yep, I did forget the cost of parking.....

[krisk]

All I have to say is that if you want the JoeCon Exclusives at the price we convention attendees get them at, go to a Con instead of crying about how much less fortunate you are.

Then and only then will you understand. I know how much I spent to go and get these sets. Why should you be given a break because you don't wanna go or can't go? I used a week of vacation from work and saved my money so I could afford the trip.

I still find it mind boggling that some of you are so obtuse. If you don't think you should pay for someone's expenses who went to the Con by paying an inflated price for the stuff on eBay, I suggest you go get your head examined...

a couple of weeks ago I would have argued the point, but since I went to this Joecon and it was my first, I do understand more of the prices we see online.

The whole arguement about going to the con is a reward enough so that if someone does sell what they bought it should not be for more than what they paid for it........well, thats not even going to work with the subscription set. The club has already said that if you want to buy individual figures they will cost more.

Another item about the cost of the exclusives this year, they were a lot higher than last years, but I wonder how much of that was associated with the cost of getting into the Hilton to have the con there? They did say that the Hilton was not their first choice. I wonder how much more it cost them and they had to pass the cost onto us in the exclusives?

[X-factorz]

Typically the reason they can't go is the cost of going which is more expensive than the cost of paying someone on ebay for these exclusives. But the complaint is they don't want to pay to go and they don't want to pay inflated prices on ebay. Well, you can't always get what you want. Let's not forget, these are CONVENTION exclusives. Meaning you should go to the convention and expect to get them. They are not CLUB exclusives. Just because you are a member of the club doesn't mean a thing. The only reason people have this perception is because the club will sell extras on the website after he convention if there are any left over.

Yeah, I know the difference and I'm fully aware of all aspects of the process. A major problem here is that the con is run by the club which should be trying to help promote the brand through accessibility to sought after items. There is no need to make these con exclusives when club exclusives would obviously reach the club members much better. We already have to deal with trying to obtain SDCC exclusives so why make it harder on the fan base that is financially supporting the line?

I know I'm getting way off topic here but I will say that I don't fault people for doing something they are being allowed to do but I personally don't agree with it and I do believe the club has a responsibility to respect the position they have by looking after their loyal customers and doing their best to make sure every paid member has access to exclusive G.I.JOE merchandise produced by the club. I hope that we can agree that an online store that pops up once a year in random locations to sell exclusive items is a bit ridiculous!

[spot138]

Lets look at this way. Then why have the convention? Why not just make me go to some random point on the planet, pay my club $45, pay my "pickup" fee and just pay airfare to go to that random place get my items and leave? That is all the convention has become at this point, a tool to get people to spend some money with the club with the sole purpse to flip it and make even more profit themselves on ebay demand. The entire convention's concept is wasted at that point since all that is all it has as for intent and drive to go just to get exclusives to sell. Why bother with tours, guest speakers, panels, reveals of stuff you will never be able to buy and all of that, when all you do is go to stand in line and hope they dont sell out before you even get in the store? I would be pissed if I went, spent all of that money to go and could not get any of the items because of the sell outs this year.

Further more why not just offer club exclusives to the members in the first place and let us spend money direclty with them and quit doing conventions all together (that will save them a ton of money to spend on the sub service, more items ot offer through the store and maybe even get to the point of doing DTC level service) so we can all partake in the offerings that HASBRO should be providing us to begin with? If peeps still wanna have a random location get together for another unofficial con great have ti go spend $18,900 on booze and make your own customs to sell as exclusives and have at it...I want more offerings from the club I am a part of, not one social media event per year that is nothing more then an over-glorfied sales trap...is that to much to ask?

Dude speaks the truth!

[CVdelgado]

if you dont like the proces all you can do is not pay that price. the problem is there is always going to be some other dude with nothing better to spend his money on who will cave and pay some ridiculous amount.

one of the most effed up parts of trying to enjoy a hobby like this is dealing with this kind of nonsense. at least for someone like me who enjoys the collection i have for the collection itself and my enjoyment is not connected to others not having what i have. i sense others seem to enjoy things more if they have it and they know others want it. that is the driving force behind this "exclusive" stuff.

i doubt i will ever own any of these convention exclusive sets and i dont really care. i will never NEED them to feel like i have a "complete collection" or some kind of nonsense like that. ive actually heard people try to make that argument. lol.

luckily the convention sets havent made anything i really wanted yet so they have been easy passes for me. i dont see anything left they could make to even get me worked up about it at this point.

i havent totally passed on exclusives though. some i wanted enough to spend a bit on. i have been a member of the club to acquire dial tone and footloose. i tried to get a a TTT slaughter but i have been priced out of the market. ohh well ill have to live with my usa version. i was able to get the pink zarana i wanted and i spend some coin to get a red jinx as well.

[A.C.T.]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

I like the word bullshit. People who go to the Con(I've been once) don't need to factor in all that shit. If I take my kids to Disney and I buy some expensive Disney shirts for $45, some friend/person wants to buy my $45 Disney shirt, I say $100, he's like WTF. I'm like, yo, its expensive to go to Disney, you gots to pay, I ordered room service. That shit don't make sense. I'd rathed someone be like, you gotta pay me double cuz I want more money or I'm greedy, or everybody on ebay is doing it. When people say that shit, it makes me not wanna buy there stuff cuz I ain't fundin homeboys trip.

[JoeMama]

capitalism. it is what GI JOE fights for.
The American Way.
They are Real American Heros.
Please do not forget this.
Our nation is founded on the principle of freedom, and free trade.
Captialism.
Despite this year's set glorifying Communism.
That is just... ironic.

[cobraEdaco]

I like the word bullshit. People who go to the Con(I've been once) don't need to factor in all that shit. If I take my kids to Disney and I buy some expensive Disney shirts for $45, some friend/person wants to buy my $45 Disney shirt, I say $100, he's like WTF. I'm like, yo, its expensive to go to Disney, you gots to pay, I ordered room service. That shit don't make sense. I'd rathed someone be like, you gotta pay me double cuz I want more money or I'm greedy, or everybody on ebay is doing it. When people say that shit, it makes me not wanna buy there stuff cuz I ain't fundin homeboys trip.

This was kinda funny...

[Viper6]

I like the word bullshit. People who go to the Con(I've been once) don't need to factor in all that shit. If I take my kids to Disney and I buy some expensive Disney shirts for $45, some friend/person wants to buy my $45 Disney shirt, I say $100, he's like WTF. I'm like, yo, its expensive to go to Disney, you gots to pay, I ordered room service. That shit don't make sense. I'd rathed someone be like, you gotta pay me double cuz I want more money or I'm greedy, or everybody on ebay is doing it. When people say that shit, it makes me not wanna buy there stuff cuz I ain't fundin homeboys trip.

disney made more than 600 shirts bro ;)

[dorian247]

I like the word bullshit. People who go to the Con(I've been once) don't need to factor in all that shit. If I take my kids to Disney and I buy some expensive Disney shirts for $45, some friend/person wants to buy my $45 Disney shirt, I say $100, he's like WTF. I'm like, yo, its expensive to go to Disney, you gots to pay, I ordered room service. That shit don't make sense. I'd rathed someone be like, you gotta pay me double cuz I want more money or I'm greedy, or everybody on ebay is doing it. When people say that shit, it makes me not wanna buy there stuff cuz I ain't fundin homeboys trip.

This all day.

[Viper6]

also anyone can order a disney shirt from the disney store.

[Jefehawk]

Was it really $350 bucks to walk into the convention?...

[CVdelgado]

capitalism. it is what GI JOE fights for.
The American Way.
They are Real American Heros.
Please do not forget this.
Our nation is founded on the principle of freedom, and free trade.
Captialism.
Despite this year's set glorifying Communism.
That is just... ironic.

get that sh*t outta here.

gi joe fights for FREEDOM wherever there s trouble, thats it.

your k-12 understanding of history/government/economics doesnt belong on this forum.

[In Like Flint]

I like how people constantly bitch and moan about eBay being evil, and high prices on things that are in demand are SOOOOOO unfair. But they aren't willing to do the research, the preparation, or the legwork to get the items they think they HAVE to have at what they consider a fair price.

And then, as I've seen in other posts, when they DO get something for less than they thought it would be, they also come on here and parade it around in front of everyone. LOOK AT MY SCORE!!!! LOOK WHAT I HAVE!! YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT!!! BUT I HAVE IT!!! THAT IDIOT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE HAD, AND I CAME OUT ON TOP!!! I'M KING OF THE WORLD!!!!

What is this, 3rd grade?

If you want something. Pay for it. If not, either wait for it to come down in price, save your money up to buy it, or, here's a novel idea: YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. No one's got a gun to your head.

It's not that difficult. !@#$%ing first world problems. MY TOYS COST TOO MUCH!!!

WAH!

[krisk]

capitalism. it is what GI JOE fights for.
The American Way.
They are Real American Heros.
Please do not forget this.
Our nation is founded on the principle of freedom, and free trade.
Captialism.
Despite this year's set glorifying Communism.
That is just... ironic.

there was a little kid at the con, every time the club was in a panel he would ask them why there were no Joes in the box set! hahaha

[CrimsonGuard101]

I like how people constantly bitch and moan about eBay being evil, and high prices on things that are in demand are SOOOOOO unfair. But they aren't willing to do the research, the preparation, or the legwork to get the items they think they HAVE to have at what they consider a fair price.

And then, as I've seen in other posts, when they DO get something for less than they thought it would be, they also come on here and parade it around in front of everyone. LOOK AT MY SCORE!!!! LOOK WHAT I HAVE!! YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT!!! BUT I HAVE IT!!! THAT IDIOT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE HAD, AND I CAME OUT ON TOP!!! I'M KING OF THE WORLD!!!!

What is this, 3rd grade?

If you want something. Pay for it. If not, either wait for it to come down in price, save your money up to buy it, or, here's a novel idea: YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. No one's got a gun to your head.

It's not that difficult. !@#$%ing first world problems. MY TOYS COST TOO MUCH!!!

WAH!

So...how is what you did here any better? This is nothing more then just a different type of whine...whining about whining lol...all the caps and q-bert speak betray your intentions my son....

[krisk]

Was it really $350 bucks to walk into the convention?...

$345 for registered Attendees, that was the cost of admission and the box set.....$210 for the bagged set, but you have to buy the box set first.

General Admission was $15 I think for adults

[X-factorz]

capitalism. it is what GI JOE fights for.
The American Way.
They are Real American Heros.
Please do not forget this.
Our nation is founded on the principle of freedom, and free trade.
Captialism.
Despite this year's set glorifying Communism.
That is just... ironic.

I disagree, freedom and capitalism are far from the same thing but your G.I.JOE can fight for whatever you want it to because of the true "American way".

Capitalism is not the "American way" as much as it is an economic system we use. Unfortunately, that slogan has been tossed around so much over the years that it almost implies that not being in favor of capitalism is un-American which is also not true at all because the beauty of being an American means having the freedom to believe in whatever you want!

My G.I.JOE has always fought for what our nation was built upon...democracy.

I do however agree with the irony of the set!

[SonOfMindbender]

disney made more than 600 shirts bro ;)

^This!!

[CrimsonGuard101]

I do however agree with the irony of the set!

It should be 345 rubles then....not $345 err I mean $845 on ebay....and we all needed to stand in food lines to get our loaf of bread for the month...and have the con at a Siberian Gulag...that would add to the irony...

[Cobra80]

...............

[cobracobra]

It sounds like the GI JOE CON is just a big money sucker and the only real way to make any money back is to hopefully get 2 of each or more and to then sell them on Ebay. Sounds pretty stupid.

Seems like anyone who has gone to the convention can only justify the value of the pieces in what they spent at the hotel, air fair, ect ect.. So it sounds like the convention kinda sucks for most people.

I would love to pick up the sets of figures this year but it averages out to 50-90 dollars a figure for me at my end just to get a action figure sounds pretty dumb even worse as if I flew to New Orleans just to wait in line to buy one for $15-45 a piece. I am sorry it just sounds like Wood Stock 1994 really.

[Dealer Destro]

I like the word bullshit. People who go to the Con(I've been once) don't need to factor in all that shit. If I take my kids to Disney and I buy some expensive Disney shirts for $45, some friend/person wants to buy my $45 Disney shirt, I say $100, he's like WTF. I'm like, yo, its expensive to go to Disney, you gots to pay, I ordered room service. That shit don't make sense. I'd rathed someone be like, you gotta pay me double cuz I want more money or I'm greedy, or everybody on ebay is doing it. When people say that shit, it makes me not wanna buy there stuff cuz I ain't fundin homeboys trip.

Awesome. Then don't. I don't mind paying what I can afford. If it's 2x the price or 3x the price. I don't care if I can afford it. I know going to said events would cost me more than paying scalper, greedy, scumbag, DB, what ever you want to call'em prices. If you can afford it, then go for it!

[krisk]

OUCH!! Why get so defensive? Wait a second did any Tanker ask someone to go to the Con on THEIR behalf? NO! You can't tell me that most of the GI Joe collectors that go to these Cons are ONLY going for themselves. If you believe that garbage, I have some cheap real estate property to sell you.

I bet that alot of the people that go to the Cons go to just resell these sets. Some prob go just for themeselves and their collection. But I bet most go to turn around and dump on ebay for a Huge markup.

actually I did go on behalf of another tanker! he and I worked out a deal...he got his box and bagged set and cert and pin and the attending exclusive...also he got first dibs at any exclusives I didnt want.....

[Dealer Destro]

I bet that alot of the people that go to the Cons go to just resell these sets. Some prob go just for themeselves and their collection. But I bet most go to turn around and dump on ebay for a Huge markup.

Do you know who you can blame for said behavior? Look around all over this site. Hell, in some instances look in the mirror. It's us. We incent this type of behavior by paying the over inflated prices. But we do so voluntarily because at the end of the day it's a collectable and not a non essential item.

[krisk]

It sounds like the GI JOE CON is just a big money sucker and the only real way to make any money back is to hopefully get 2 of each or more and to then sell them on Ebay. Sounds pretty stupid.

Seems like anyone who has gone to the convention can only justify the value of the pieces in what they spent at the hotel, air fair, ect ect.. So it sounds like the convention kinda sucks for most people.

I would love to pick up the sets of figures this year but it averages out to 50-90 dollars a figure for me at my end just to get a action figure sounds pretty dumb even worse as if I flew to New Orleans just to wait in line to buy one for $15-45 a piece. I am sorry it just sounds like Wood Stock 1994 really.

thats just it then, if someone DOES consider the con a business expense then the cost of everything is considered into their resell price.....
If they buy 6 of each item and have 2 registered attendees and 2 Golden Tickets, 2 airfares, 3 to 4 nights at the hotel, food, car rental, shipping/packing costs and whatever else is involved....then it could easily be $60 a fig...

[KENNY GUIDO]

I wish the con was coming to nyc again. loved jumping in my car and driving to the intrepid and coming home the same day!

[youdoitimbusy]

As long as the club keeps pumping out garbage, its not worth it one way or the other. I haven't seen one figure I couldn't live without... my fear is at some point they will start making good figures, and ill be out some real money.

[A.C.T.]

Awesome. Then don't. I don't mind paying what I can afford. If it's 2x the price or 3x the price. I don't care if I can afford it. I know going to said events would cost me more than paying scalper, greedy, scumbag, DB, what ever you want to call'em prices. If you can afford it, then go for it!

Different strokes...

[Angry.Android]

This thread further illustrates why i have no desire to join the GJCC or go to the con. I rarely like the con sets and find them vastly overpriced. All i really want to do is hang out with some friends i've made on the board and have a good time geeking out about toys without having to be self conscious about it. The BS, Overpriced toys, Scalperisms, and Con Politics i can do without.

[Hit & Run]

Do you know who you can blame for said behavior? Look around all over this site. Hell, in some instances look in the mirror. It's us. We incent this type of behavior by paying the over inflated prices. But we do so voluntarily because at the end of the day it's a collectable and not a non essential item.

Yup. Did I want to pay $150 for my two pack? No, I only wanted to pay $130 but people kept snatching up the $150 BIN's on eBay so I paid it. Got my figures and went to bed.

No flights, no hotel rooms, no standing in lines, etc. I wanted them, so I paid someone to do the leg work for me. They have some extra cash, I have my figures. Win-win.

[CrimsonGuard101]

thats just it then, if someone DOES consider the con a business expense then the cost of everything is considered into their resell price.....
If they buy 6 of each item and have 2 registered attendees and 2 Golden Tickets, 2 airfares, 3 to 4 nights at the hotel, food, car rental, shipping/packing costs and whatever else is involved....then it could easily be $60 a fig...

Its more then that though, the 2 pack with darklon is going for $124.00 a fig...thats more then most of the figs with Viperskingdom and China sellers go for for stuff that seven more rare on most occasions...thats THIRTEEN regular priced figures...

[CobraCrimson]

damn

[X-factorz]

It should be 345 rubles then....not $345 err I mean $845 on ebay....and we all needed to stand in food lines to get our loaf of bread for the month...and have the con at a Siberian Gulag...that would add to the irony...

Please explain, I'm not following your statement.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Please explain, I'm not following your statement.

The irony of us buying a soviet era homage toys/ box sets at premium inflation ridden crapitalistic corrupt decadent overly inflated and entitled western economy pricing...

[krisk]

Its more then that though, the 2 pack with darklon is going for $124.00 a fig...thats more then most of the figs with Viperskingdom and China sellers go for for stuff that seven more rare on most occasions...thats THIRTEEN regular priced figures...

and it is Darklon that is driving the price up......many collectors out there want that 2 pack to get him......they are bidding it all up........now if every auciton was only BIN and they were all starting at $250 and they were still selling, that would mean the price would continue to go up......

I understand your side, I truly do, I have been on your side for YEARS, but after going to this con, I understand what the other guys are saying as well....too many people say "oh but you get to go to the con and we couldn't"

For me, it was 11 hours of driving(roundtrip) 10 hours of standing in lines(three times, with the first night being the longest of 5 hours total time), it got to the point that my wife starting sitting on the floor, we actually watched Ghostbusters while sitting in line......
Its not really a vacation, there is a timetable to stick too if you want to get signatures or sit in on certain panels.....and they are one shot things, its not like Hasbro is going to do their presentation four times. you cant really wander away and go do something when in 2 hours you want to hear Hasbro, GIJCC, IDW or some voice actor speak.......yes it is enjoyable learning and hearing firsthand, but is it as fun as riding a raft or going somewhere to camp or whatever......not really for us....

this con was a learning experience for me and my wife...she gave me the ok to go after some older con items now and understands the higher prices......
I know up until five days ago I was always upset that the 15 set was $600 or $800 dollars.....but it is really timeconsuming and expensive to do these things, especially this year..........
I still feel that the Club had to pay more for the Hilton spaces cuz it was such a short notice(less than 6 months) and they were the only one available......and that did cause the exclusives to go up in price....thats my 5cents worth anyway

[Ruin]

get that sh*t outta here.

gi joe fights for FREEDOM wherever there s trouble, thats it.

your k-12 understanding of history/government/economics doesnt belong on this forum.

I find that a funny statement given that I didn't run accross the really doctrinaire, counter-intuitive, crazy-nonsense stuff until I got into college.

[Ruin]

...

[Ruin]

The irony of us buying a soviet era homage toys/ box sets at premium inflation ridden crapitalistic corrupt decadent overly inflated and entitled western economy pricing...

I find it more ironic that in many countries, there are few to no joes to sell or to be bought. Or sometimes food for that matter...

[Kann]

It is so crazy! and then it seems like i sell some stuff on ebay and i get jack!

I am curently selling a Defiant and its going off in about 2 hours and its only up to $5.50! Thats so crazy those things are worth atleast $500!

[Bernit69]

yea it sucks....I wanted this set too. All the figures are so awesome!

[krisk]

It is so crazy! and then it seems like i sell some stuff on ebay and i get jack!

I am curently selling a Defiant and its going off in about 2 hours and its only up to $5.50! Thats so crazy those things are worth atleast $500!

umm, what.......

You are not selling a Defiant....you are selling a incomplete shuttle to the Defiant, I recently bought one in about the same shape for $9.....

but yes Ebay prices are crazy on in-demand items....

[CrimsonGuard101]

and it is Darklon that is driving the price up......many collectors out there want that 2 pack to get him......they are bidding it all up........now if every auciton was only BIN and they were all starting at $250 and they were still selling, that would mean the price would continue to go up......

I understand your side, I truly do, I have been on your side for YEARS, but after going to this con, I understand what the other guys are saying as well....too many people say "oh but you get to go to the con and we couldn't"

For me, it was 11 hours of driving(roundtrip) 10 hours of standing in lines(three times, with the first night being the longest of 5 hours total time), it got to the point that my wife starting sitting on the floor, we actually watched Ghostbusters while sitting in line......
Its not really a vacation, there is a timetable to stick too if you want to get signatures or sit in on certain panels.....and they are one shot things, its not like Hasbro is going to do their presentation four times. you cant really wander away and go do something when in 2 hours you want to hear Hasbro, GIJCC, IDW or some voice actor speak.......yes it is enjoyable learning and hearing firsthand, but is it as fun as riding a raft or going somewhere to camp or whatever......not really for us....

this con was a learning experience for me and my wife...she gave me the ok to go after some older con items now and understands the higher prices......
I know up until five days ago I was always upset that the 15 set was $600 or $800 dollars.....but it is really timeconsuming and expensive to do these things, especially this year..........
I still feel that the Club had to pay more for the Hilton spaces cuz it was such a short notice(less than 6 months) and they were the only one available......and that did cause the exclusives to go up in price....thats my 5cents worth anyway

Would you have gone if they didnt offer the con set?

[Angry.Android]

I am curently selling a Defiant and its going off in about 2 hours and its only up to $5.50!

Out of curiosity, what happened to the arms and feet off of that Clone Wars Tactical Droid?

Thats so crazy those things are worth atleast $500!

Probably less when missing the gantry portion as well as the Canopy, landing gear port cover, and other assorted parts.

[krisk]

Would you have gone if they didnt offer the con set?

yes, the con set was one of the downsides I initally had....I was able to get rid of all of them, I got 2 boxed and 2 bagged, sold two boxed and one bagged for my cost and the other bagged I got $220-$225 and the guy is supposed to ship me a boxed Best of the 80s set which I have yet to recieve.....

so I dont have any stakes out there right now, and the 5 things I am dumping are going for far less than ebay.....

[shdwknt]

Dude I went to Joe con last year.. the only piece (outside all the other expenses) was the boxset that was expensive as shit.. I paid $600 or so for the golden ticket package last year.. luckily I was in orlando for my anniversary and on my way to the bahamas.. so the plane ticket and hotel cost didnt come into play as I already spent that to get their for the cruise.. but the con stuff is filling a BIG hole in collectors collections and hearts.. specially since hasbro just keeps releasing ninjas and nothing but.. I didnt know this was kung fu joe.. but anyhow.. ya.. the single and two packs are like 30-50 ea normal prices.. then add in mark up :)

[CrimsonGuard101]

yes, the con set was one of the downsides I initally had....I was able to get rid of all of them, I got 2 boxed and 2 bagged, sold two boxed and one bagged for my cost and the other bagged I got $220-$225 and the guy is supposed to ship me a boxed Best of the 80s set which I have yet to recieve.....

so I dont have any stakes out there right now, and the 5 things I am dumping are going for far less than ebay.....

What about it (besides the exclusives) did you like the best that justified the cost if you had no way to recoup them?

[Kann]

Out of curiosity, what happened to the arms and feet off of that Clone Wars Tactical Droid?



Probably less when missing the gantry portion as well as the Canopy, landing gear port cover, and other assorted parts.

I know what i have isnt worth near $500 but i bet its worth close to $25.

I have no idea what happened to his arms and legs I got it at a free bin at a garage sale. are they sapose to come apart?

[krisk]

What about it (besides the exclusives) did you like the best that justified the cost if you had no way to recoup them?

well, for us we went to stay and help a friend that is leaving NOLA, we helped him pack and load up his trailer, outside of that, we prolly wouldve just treated it like a toy show, went in on Saturday morning and made some deals......if I had not bought the exclusives, I prolly could have completed my Night Force vintage, Slaughter's Marauders vintage and Tiger Force Vintage collections, figs and vehicles......as well as a few other things I did buy.....so it wouldve been a bit easier and less stressful and we wouldnt have missed 3 days of work last week nor the expense of eating out in NOLA for 2 extra days...

so dealer tables-toy show type of feel, got to meet a few friends, make a couple of new ones, sat in a few panels(didnt learn squat other then Hasbro and a advisor to them all know GIJoe is in bad shape but dont know how to fix it) ummmmmm about it.....

also to make it even more skewed, I won the paid trip for next years Joecon, which I cant still really believe....

[krisk]

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z323/boudro72/DSCN0222.jpg
I bought a lot of older stuff as well......

[CrimsonGuard101]

well, for us we went to stay and help a friend that is leaving NOLA, we helped him pack and load up his trailer, outside of that, we prolly wouldve just treated it like a toy show, went in on Saturday morning and made some deals......if I had not bought the exclusives, I prolly could have completed my Night Force vintage, Slaughter's Marauders vintage and Tiger Force Vintage collections, figs and vehicles......as well as a few other things I did buy.....so it wouldve been a bit easier and less stressful and we wouldnt have missed 3 days of work last week nor the expense of eating out in NOLA for 2 extra days...

so dealer tables-toy show type of feel, got to meet a few friends, make a couple of new ones, sat in a few panels(didnt learn squat other then Hasbro and a advisor to them all know GIJoe is in bad shape but dont know how to fix it) ummmmmm about it.....

also to make it even more skewed, I won the paid trip for next years Joecon, which I cant still really believe....

See :) there are ample reasons to go aside form trying to let the scalpers gouge their fellow collectors to recoup their entire trip costs. Reading that Club? We DONT NEEED the exclusives and peeps can still go and enjoy the con! Now offer them to us all and quit making this such an nightmare for everyone thats a member...sheesh

[Ruin]

.....sat in a few panels(didnt learn squat other then Hasbro and a advisor to them all know GIJoe is in bad shape but dont know how to fix it) ummmmmm about it.....

ugh, that sound depressing...

also to make it even more skewed, I won the paid trip for next years Joecon, which I cant still really believe....

...but this sounds much better. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

[Xerofall]

I'm surprised no one is trying to recoup gambling, booze and hooker expenses, lol.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I'm surprised no one is trying to recoup gambling, booze and hooker expenses, lol.

they are...look at the prices lol...even this months rent/water bill/electric bill/child support is even fair game...need to make house payment any interested in a couple sets?

[krisk]

See :) there are ample reasons to go aside form trying to let the scalpers gouge their fellow collectors to recoup their entire trip costs. Reading that Club? We DONT NEEED the exclusives and peeps can still go and enjoy the con! Now offer them to us all and quit making this such an nightmare for everyone thats a member...sheesh
but there would be no way I would pay $345 bucks to get in......would you?
I mean as it wouldve been it would cost a General Admission for two adults either $15 or $20 each......thats still alot for a toy show....
so the club has to have some kinda hook to get us to come.....now could they do it all in 3 days......probably..dont know why they need 5 days.....Weds to Sunday.....if they have pick up start earlier on Friday and do a few less panels....they could easily put it all on in 3 days, hell Fri and Saturday the show closed at 5(is that normal) sunday is closed at 3:30. Thursday it was open only to buy club stuff....they could extend hours by two on Friday and Saturday and have pickup starting at 9am on Friday then they should be done by 2 or 3 and let the floor open up a 4 or 5 and run till 7 for the preview...then have em open all day Saturday....9 to 7!

[Cobra80]

.............

[krisk]

ugh, that sound depressing...



...but this sounds much better. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

haha, thanks, I was stunned to silence(which is really surprising)....
the last panel was by a guy that used to be involved with Joe development in the 80s and 90s...he now advises them...
his big statement was the collectors(yes, US) need to accept change and embrace the new ideas at Hasbro.....
well......um......we do, we are buying the toys, ALL of them when we can find them.....
other thing he said was that hasbro needs to shake things up a lot and the we need to grab ahold and enjoy the ride......
ok, lets do it!!.......oh wait, we did that, ROC anyone?

[krisk]

So I see both sides. The Con people say, "Hey these are Exclusive Only available at the Con. I charge Non-Con collector high price to pay for for flight/gas, hotel, food, beer etc.

Then we are told "that's the way it is."

Okay so with this logic, if someone decides to go to the 1st Annual New Orleans Dollar General GI JOE exclusive figure Con. I drive down at $4.00 per gallon gas, get a hotel for 3 days, go to Red Lobster for 3 nights and hit a couple bars. Then I pick up the Exclusive Dollar General figures, and ask X amount $.

Now your telling me if this person asked Tankers to pay X amount $$ so the person can make up for his gas $$, hotel stay, Red Lobster and beer money, people would not say something negative?

It's the Same principal? Why would someone ask a Tanker to pay for the person gas $$, hotel and beer while going to the 1st annual New Orleans Dollar General GI JOE Exclusive figure Con??

Just saying
ummmm.....go to Ebay, its happening as I type this, the DG figs have been going for $100 to $125 per sets and have gotten anywhere from $11 to $25 per figure. Even seen it on the Tank and a couple other sites where they are asking $10 to $15 per fig plus shipping......so yea, same principal

[CrimsonGuard101]

but there would be no way I would pay $345 bucks to get in......would you?
I mean as it wouldve been it would cost a General Admission for two adults either $15 or $20 each......thats still alot for a toy show....
so the club has to have some kinda hook to get us to come.....now could they do it all in 3 days......probably..dont know why they need 5 days.....Weds to Sunday.....if they have pick up start earlier on Friday and do a few less panels....they could easily put it all on in 3 days, hell Fri and Saturday the show closed at 5(is that normal) sunday is closed at 3:30. Thursday it was open only to buy club stuff....they could extend hours by two on Friday and Saturday and have pickup starting at 9am on Friday then they should be done by 2 or 3 and let the floor open up a 4 or 5 and run till 7 for the preview...then have em open all day Saturday....9 to 7!

That's what I was asking you, would it have been worth paying that much to get access to what you got and no exclusives. Even then they could cut it down to $150 ateendee cost, give you a free comic book themed for the convention and a free diner or something at a local restraunt (cost of course per plate absorebed by the attendee fee, coudl also charge more for general admission).

Aside form that I was thinking...

I would go if I could buy all exclusives + souvenirs in one fell swoop package, like a $850 GUARANTEED ALL ITEMS package at the club's total asking price from the club (helo, boxed set, bagged set, paratrooper, 3pok 2pk, truck, pin, flyer, and a thank you letter for my purchase) . If I could buy that as an attendee I would go every time and just pick up my sets and go home. I think that would be worth the planning and scheduling time off from work to get. I don't wanna pay for other peoples trips or child support or what other vices it took for them to go to the con plus 9 different shipping fees across multiple ebay purchases and having to keep on the sellers about whether or not the sent my item. I have zero interest in that. If I am paying the club up front sure that would be an awesome deal I could stomach. Hell gift wrap it and just mail it to me as HOMEFRONT all inclusive package so I dont have to waste the time and gas to go...I dunno why thats such a taboo concept...really..other then someone is getting an awesome kick back for not allowing it....

[krisk]

That's what I was asking you, would it have been worth paying that much to get access to what you got and no exclusives. Even then they could cut it down to $150 ateendee cost, give you a free comic book themed for the convention and a free diner or something at a local restraunt (cost of course per plate absorebed by the attendee fee, coudl also charge more for general admission).

Aside form that I was thinking...

I would go if I could buy all exclusives + souvenirs in one fell swoop package, like a $850 GUARANTEED ALL ITEMS package at the club's total asking price from the club (helo, boxed set, bagged set, paratrooper, 3pok 2pk, truck, pin, flyer, and a thank you letter for my purchase) . If I could buy that as an attendee I would go every time and just pick up my sets and go home. I think that would be worth the planning and scheduling time off from work to get. I don't wanna pay for other peoples trips or child support or what other vices it took for them to go to the con plus 9 different shipping fees across multiple ebay purchases and having to keep on the sellers about whether or not the sent my item. I have zero interest in that. If I am paying the club up front sure that would be an awesome deal I could stomach. Hell gift wrap it and just mail it to me as HOMEFRONT all inclusive package so I dont have to waste the time and gas to go...I dunno why thats such a taboo concept...really..other then someone is getting an awesome kick back for not allowing it....

I agree with the Homefront Hero part....if I could pay for my 2 sets(boxed and bagged) and get one of each exclusive and pay a small increase(after all the Golden Ticket guys are paying $300 additional) say 10% extra, I bet a ton of people would do it! but then the Club loses out on the cost of the floor space they occupy.....cuz if they block out 200 hotel rooms for attendees and only 100 get sold, I bet the club has to come up with more money....and where does that come from.....
I sat down and thought about everything it costs them, they have all the same expenses we have, plus payroll, hall rentalS....maybe even insurance...so they NEED us to come to them.....or for them their would be no point in offering a convention at all, cuz the floor dealers are not going to come out if only 200 buyers pass through.....

[krisk]

another thing for me is,,,,,,,,,,,,why all the secrecy? why not annouce the exclusives and boxed sets art and ideas 6 or 8 months ahead, that way they could do preorders and would prolly sell more that way anyway!

[CrimsonGuard101]

I agree with the Homefront Hero part....if I could pay for my 2 sets(boxed and bagged) and get one of each exclusive and pay a small increase(after all the Golden Ticket guys are paying $300 additional) say 10% extra, I bet a ton of people would do it! but then the Club loses out on the cost of the floor space they occupy.....cuz if they block out 200 hotel rooms for attendees and only 100 get sold, I bet the club has to come up with more money....and where does that come from.....
I sat down and thought about everything it costs them, they have all the same expenses we have, plus payroll, hall rentalS....maybe even insurance...so they NEED us to come to them.....or for them their would be no point in offering a convention at all, cuz the floor dealers are not going to come out if only 200 buyers pass through.....

They plan ahead and work the costs as the paradigm shifts between attendees and non attendees, more attendees add more rooms, less attendees drop rooms and set a cut off date with cancellation fees after that date. They then can inform dealers of the expected attendee
numbers and the dealer can then decide if it will be worth thier time to go. Another way to do it is charge more for con attending yearly subscription. Make it 3 payments before the con for $115 to pay for the $345 cost to go to the con. There are a ton of ways to make this still work without the draw of selling the exclusives for 20x their innitial cost.

But that takes logistical planning that is beyond the clubs capacity. SO they either need to make more exclusives or stop the convention all together lol...or man up and get UPS Logistics to assist hahaha

[krisk]

They plan ahead and work the costs as the paradigm shifts between attendees and non attendees, more attendees add more rooms, less attendees drop rooms and set a cut off date with cancellation fees after that date. They then can inform dealers of the expected attendee
numbers and the dealer can then decide if it will be worth thier time to go. Another way to do it is charge more for con attending yearly subscription. Make it 3 payments before the con for $115 to pay for the $345 cost to go to the con. There are a ton of ways to make this still work without the draw of selling the exclusives for 20x their innitial cost.

But that takes logistical planning that is beyond the clubs capacity. SO they either need to make more exclusives or stop the convention all together lol...or man up and get UPS Logistics to assist hahaha

right but that time frame would need to be months out....and from what I have seen of the club they are not able to get that far out...I think they are like many companies and are working everything short handed....it seems like they just dont have enough help to get out from behind the 8 ball and do something like that......

I know a couple of Fire Dept. cons I worked on, we had to have places set to go 6 to 8 months in advance......this year I doubt the club had that luxury cuz of the issues with the original hotel....and having to find a new venue cost them a lot of money I bet

[Grippen]

For me the worst is those retaliation figures loose coming from China selling for almost $100 each figure. Firefly and SnaKe Eyes have been going for that. Come on the figures will come out anyway in less then a year.

I got my SE from there but I payed an almost normal figure price for it and only because I didn't know what was going to happen with the retaliation toys since it wouldn't be the first time hasbro cancels figures. Now at the con we could see they are all there whats the point of spending $100 on a figure. Its crazy....

[Tucker]

Look, I'm not gonna go back and quote every post that I agree or disagree with, but there are a few things I'd like to say, first this:

Obtuse | What is the Definition of Obtuse? | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obtuse)

...and second, this:

Anything I was fortunate enough to obtain at JoeCon is on it's way home over the next week. When it gets here, anything that I had been able to get more than one of get's put into a little pile. The I'll head on over to eBay and put it up at a fair price in an auction. When someone sees that price, they're going to bid on it. If that auction ends up at $700, that's not my fault, that's what someone was willing to pay. The Buy It Now prices are usually based somewhere around the price of the first few auctions that close. Simple enough, right?

...and lastly:


Lets look at this way. Then why have the convention? Why not just make me go to some random point on the planet, pay my club $45, pay my "pickup" fee and just pay airfare to go to that random place get my items and leave? That is all the convention has become at this point, a tool to get people to spend some money with the club with the sole purpse to flip it and make even more profit themselves on ebay demand. The entire convention's concept is wasted at that point since all that is all it has as for intent and drive to go just to get exclusives to sell. Why bother with tours, guest speakers, panels, reveals of stuff you will never be able to buy and all of that, when all you do is go to stand in line and hope they dont sell out before you even get in the store? I would be pissed if I went, spent all of that money to go and could not get any of the items because of the sell outs this year.

Further more why not just offer club exclusives to the members in the first place and let us spend money direclty with them and quit doing conventions all together (that will save them a ton of money to spend on the sub service, more items ot offer through the store and maybe even get to the point of doing DTC level service) so we can all partake in the offerings that HASBRO should be providing us to begin with? If peeps still wanna have a random location get together for another unofficial con great have ti go spend $18,900 on booze and make your own customs to sell as exclusives and have at it...I want more offerings from the club I am a part of, not one social media event per year that is nothing more then an over-glorfied sales trap...is that to much to ask?

Judging from the picture in your signature, you were at the Convention, but I'm sorry, I disagree...

If you've been to a JoeCon and think that it's only about the exclusives, frankly, I think you're doing it wrong. Don't do that...

Do this:

Mingling with fellow Joe Fans, acquiring exclusive toys, seeing another part of the country, attending informative panels, meeting voice actors, seeing up and coming toys behind a piece of glass that isn't a computer monitor, drinking (optional), eating local food (and occasionally spending an entire night on the can, damn Jambalaya [also optional]), browsing through the dealer booths and buying stuff way cheaper than eBay, having a good time and making the local residents wish they didn't live in a tourist area are all what makes JoeCon what it is.

I'm all done now...

[ShadowBat]

I really didn't expect so many negative posts. I just wish Hasbro would put some decent product out in the stores and not horde all the cool stuff for conventions that make the buyer pay a ass load. I will be looking for a Darklon, that much is certain.

[krisk]

I really didn't expect so many negative posts. I just wish Hasbro would put some decent product out in the stores and not horde all the cool stuff for conventions that make the buyer pay a ass load. I will be looking for a Darklon, that much is certain.

first part totally agree with......second part--good luck!!

my part, I want more and better vehicles dang it!!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Look, I'm not gonna go back and quote every post that I agree or disagree with, but there are a few things I'd like to say, first this:

Obtuse | What is the Definition of Obtuse? | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obtuse)

...and second, this:

Anything I was fortunate enough to obtain at JoeCon is on it's way home over the next week. When it gets here, anything that I had been able to get more than one of get's put into a little pile. The I'll head on over to eBay and put it up at a fair price in an auction. When someone sees that price, they're going to bid on it. If that auction ends up at $700, that's not my fault, that's what someone was willing to pay. The Buy It Now prices are usually based somewhere around the price of the first few auctions that close. Simple enough, right?

...and lastly:




Judging from the picture in your signature, you were at the Convention, but I'm sorry, I disagree...

If you've been to a JoeCon and think that it's only about the exclusives, frankly, I think you're doing it wrong. Don't do that...

Do this:

Mingling with fellow Joe Fans, acquiring exclusive toys, seeing another part of the country, attending informative panels, meeting voice actors, seeing up and coming toys behind a piece of glass that isn't a computer monitor, drinking (optional), eating local food (and occasionally spending an entire night on the can, damn Jambalaya [also optional]), browsing through the dealer booths and buying stuff way cheaper than eBay, having a good time and making the local residents wish they didn't live in a tourist area are all what makes JoeCon what it is.

I'm all done now...

hahah..how does my signature indicate I was at the con when the very picture I have in my sig is one that someone else took and posted on the front page?? /boggle....I was at work all week and weekend, I didnt get to go I had to do 4 server migrations at 12 hours each...could not be reschedueld and was the only one qualified to do the moves at work...

[Tucker]

hahah..how does my signature indicate I was at the con when the very picture I have in my sig is one that someone else took and posted on the front page?? /boggle....I was at work all week and weekend, I didnt get to go I had to do 4 server migrations at 12 hours each...could not be reschedueld and was the only one qualified to do the moves at work...

Well, I'm sorry. I'm a little jet lagged and I just spent 3 and a half hours listening to a baby cry on the plane 2 rows behind me.

Also, I hadn't been looking at the front page news because I just saw all of that in person and had assumed it was a picture you had taken... /unboggle

But if you read the rest of that part of my post then you'll understand why they have JoeCon and why we all love to go (minus the bathroom time from the Jambalaya).

[CrimsonGuard101]

Well, I'm sorry. I'm a little jet lagged and I just spent 3 and a half hours listening to a baby cry on the plane 2 rows behind me.

Also, I hadn't been looking at the front page news because I just saw all of that in person and had assumed it was a picture you had taken... /unboggle

But if you read the rest of that part of my post then you'll understand why they have JoeCon and why we all love to go (minus the bathroom time from the Jambalaya).

Obvsioulsy...the resounding primary reason I am picking up on is paying for extravagant vacations on fellow collectors who cant go and why its justified to do so lol...

[Firefly9145]

$140 a night at the con hotel, $15 for a burger, $3 for cokes or bottled water......it adds up fast!

GTFO $15 for a burger damn i will have came with ham and cheese from my house to spend that much on a burger

[cobra22nd]

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

American Hero Package: $345
Bagged set: $210

That's $555 for toys before you even step out the door. I spent another $393 at the club store on thursday night, and I did not get the bagged footloose or card set, they were both sold out before I got in. Friday morning I spent another $30 on the stealth paratrooper. They jacked the price up $10 over what was printed, so that's a good $1K just on con toys, most of which I will keep.

You guys kill me wanting other people to do your dirty work. Jesus, I do enough for charity just buy having a job and paying taxes and letting all those welfare chumps have a free ride. get off your butt and go to the show or STFU.

On the other hand you can do what I did with the MOTH sets. Wait 6 years. I got all three of the troop builder ones for $45, when that's about what each set cost back when they came out. LOL. $15 each. Awesome!

[mr_david]

$140 a night at the con hotel, $15 for a burger, $3 for cokes or bottled water......it adds up fast!

You must have come by plane....Let me add the $34 a night to park your car we where there Wed-Sun do the math!

[krisk]

GTFO $15 for a burger damn i will have came with ham and cheese from my house to spend that much on a burger
haha, yeah, like my wife wouldve went for that!! haha

You must have come by plane....Let me add the $34 a night to park your car we where there Wed-Sun do the math!

nope we drove, stayed in a condo and found a parking spot that was free!!!

then we walked EVERYWHERE!!! hahaha.......it was a mile to and a mile from the convention.....

[Roshan]

You must have come by plane....Let me add the $34 a night to park your car we where there Wed-Sun do the math!


You should have only had to pay $70 to park for the whole weekend if you parked in the hotel parking lot. It's $70 for a lost ticket. You just need to lose it sometime between wednesday and friday.

Unless you had it added to your hotel bill, which is rough then.

[mr_david]

Did anyone go for fun, or is it all about fliping exclusives?


No sitting at the same table and playing black jack with the Hasbro team that designs the figures is the fun part and believe it or not we did not talk about G.I. Joe. Oh and by the way it’s for charity.

[mr_david]

Lets look at this way. Then why have the convention? Why not just make me go to some random point on the planet, pay my club $45, pay my "pickup" fee and just pay airfare to go to that random place get my items and leave? That is all the convention has become at this point, a tool to get people to spend some money with the club with the sole purpse to flip it and make even more profit themselves on ebay demand. The entire convention's concept is wasted at that point since all that is all it has as for intent and drive to go just to get exclusives to sell. Why bother with tours, guest speakers, panels, reveals of stuff you will never be able to buy and all of that, when all you do is go to stand in line and hope they dont sell out before you even get in the store? I would be pissed if I went, spent all of that money to go and could not get any of the items because of the sell outs this year.

Further more why not just offer club exclusives to the members in the first place and let us spend money direclty with them and quit doing conventions all together (that will save them a ton of money to spend on the sub service, more items ot offer through the store and maybe even get to the point of doing DTC level service) so we can all partake in the offerings that HASBRO should be providing us to begin with? If peeps still wanna have a random location get together for another unofficial con great have ti go spend $18,900 on booze and make your own customs to sell as exclusives and have at it...I want more offerings from the club I am a part of, not one social media event per year that is nothing more then an over-glorfied sales trap...is that to much to ask?

Yeah I really enjoyed the Neil Ross and Will Ryan panel and talking to both of them on the side during the show. Also don't get me started on talking to Rod Whigham for hours this guy is awesome and had so many great stories about being in the comic business for years. He sold me some of his remarkable art work for pennies. So yeah I just want for the exclusives?!?!?

[mr_david]

another thing for me is,,,,,,,,,,,,why all the secrecy? why not annouce the exclusives and boxed sets art and ideas 6 or 8 months ahead, that way they could do preorders and would prolly sell more that way anyway!

Agree...The club needs much work!

[krisk]

Agree...The club needs much work!

I would love to help them! hah

[mr_david]

Look, I'm not gonna go back and quote every post that I agree or disagree with, but there are a few things I'd like to say, first this:

Obtuse | What is the Definition of Obtuse? | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obtuse)

...and second, this:

Anything I was fortunate enough to obtain at JoeCon is on it's way home over the next week. When it gets here, anything that I had been able to get more than one of get's put into a little pile. The I'll head on over to eBay and put it up at a fair price in an auction. When someone sees that price, they're going to bid on it. If that auction ends up at $700, that's not my fault, that's what someone was willing to pay. The Buy It Now prices are usually based somewhere around the price of the first few auctions that close. Simple enough, right?

...and lastly:




Judging from the picture in your signature, you were at the Convention, but I'm sorry, I disagree...

If you've been to a JoeCon and think that it's only about the exclusives, frankly, I think you're doing it wrong. Don't do that...

Do this:

Mingling with fellow Joe Fans, acquiring exclusive toys, seeing another part of the country, attending informative panels, meeting voice actors, seeing up and coming toys behind a piece of glass that isn't a computer monitor, drinking (optional), eating local food (and occasionally spending an entire night on the can, damn Jambalaya [also optional]), browsing through the dealer booths and buying stuff way cheaper than eBay, having a good time and making the local residents wish they didn't live in a tourist area are all what makes JoeCon what it is.

I'm all done now...

What he said!

[mr_david]

haha, yeah, like my wife wouldve went for that!! haha



nope we drove, stayed in a condo and found a parking spot that was free!!!

then we walked EVERYWHERE!!! hahaha.......it was a mile to and a mile from the convention.....

Lucky duck!!!! We had look into the condo idea at first, but we want with that Sh*t hotel!

[mr_david]

I would love to help them! hah Right.....

[Raginspoon]

Well I've attended the last two cons, and while I can understand your frustration (because I used to experience it too) this is where you have to make the decision if it's worth it to you to attend the show and get these items at cost. I think you may be surprised at the price breakdown. This year for me to attend the show and get the exclusives I had to:

buy a $44 club membership
a $355 dollar convention ticket
plane tickets
a rental car
3 nights at the hotel
food and gas expenses in NOLA
wait in monster lines (sometimes up to 2 hours)
pay for the attendee items (which aren't cheap to begin with)
and then find a way to get these items home in good condition, which isn't easy in the case of something like carded Footloose.

So while the mark up is high on these items, when you take in to consideration what all goes in to acquiring them it may not be the same scenario as you thought. Now for people that live in the area and have golden ticket it would be a completely different story, but for those oup moref us who didn't, and had to travel you can see where the expenses eat up nearly any profits that could be made on the exclusives.

I agree

To me, that's bulljive to try and use the cost of attending the 'con, to purchase extra exclusives to make up your costs to go.

Why would that be. Those have to be considered in the price to obtain them. The clubs goal is to sell out at the show. So if we didn't buy extras to sell they would most likely make less next year, which would drive the price more.


The point of an exclusive is to get people to come to the show. If you want it go to the show. Trust me its cheaper to buy it off ebay than attending.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I agree



Why would that be. Those have to be considered in the price to obtain them. The clubs goal is to sell out at the show. So if we didn't buy extras to sell they would most likely make less next year, which would drive the price more.


The point of an exclusive is to get people to come to the show. If you want it go to the show. Trust me its cheaper to buy it off ebay than attending.

However going to the show is 100% absolutely NO GUARANTEE you will get the souvenirs offered. A con set can be had many different ways. the other souvenirs...not so much. Once they sell out and your standing in line the entire convention, they sell out what are you going to do? Like I said earlier. If they provided a a full package that includes all of the items for one flat rate from THE CLUB themselves and not some scalping ebay mofo that would include all figures/vehicles and box/bagged sets...I wouldn't mind going...but until then...nope...and I will still advocate for that change and opportunity no matter how much I am told "just live with it" and "just go to the con or pay the scalpers" cause we don't have too, this is not about making Matty collector scalpers' money...its about a conventions and items that should go to the clubs members first that want them.

[krisk]

No sitting at the same table and playing black jack with the Hasbro team that designs the figures is the fun part and believe it or not we did not talk about G.I. Joe. Oh and by the way it’s for charity.

we spent about $50 that night......playing the balloon and then went to bingo..haha, it was fun!

[Cobra80]

..................

[dewrag]

Lucky duck!!!! We had look into the condo idea at first, but we want with that Sh*t hotel!

Actually Dave it was a house I found for 450 for the whole week a block away from the french quarter.......too bad drama seemed to forget it.....or not want to listen...

[krisk]

So by your logic, if someone drove around to 20 different Walmarts and bought 3 Renegades Storm Shadows and asked $50.00 each that's cool right? Because you got to off set the cost for the gas $$ you spent, the pit stop for a bite to eat because driving to 20 walmarts you might get hungry right. So why do Tankers bash this practice but not the con practice?

Just checking.

yeah, cuz they are charging $40 for a RENE SS....

[dewrag]

Honestly I start all my auctions at either a .01 or .99 and let the market figure out what its worth. IMO your stupid if you do buy it now. And yes I'm selling con exclusives to off set my costs of the trip...

[joedelta]

this is the way things are bro. either get used to big spending, or get used to not having some items in your collection.

This, i sold alot of stuff off and only keeping what i really like.

[Raginspoon]

So by your logic, if someone drove around to 20 different Walmarts and bought 3 Renegades Storm Shadows and asked $50.00 each that's cool right? Because you got to off set the cost for the gas $$ you spent, the pit stop for a bite to eat because driving to 20 walmarts you might get hungry right. So why do Tankers bash this practice but not the con practice?

Just checking.
Not
The difference being the convention is the only place to pick these items up. There is no lucking out and finding these while your out shopping. If you want them you have to pay to go. The price on ebay is much cheaper than picking it up in person.

[Cobra80]

...................

[krisk]

Okay so what's wrong with charging $40 for a RENE SS? I bought 2. 1 of them I sold to a Tanker for COST $6.97, the other I kept for my collection.

But why is it wrong charging $40-50 for this SS figure? I mean you got to offset the cost in gas and food right?
I am not saying it is.....go read the post I quoted....

[Cobra80]

I am not saying it is.....go read the post I quoted....

K, first off to be clear, not trying to argue with anyone. I just want to see where both sides are coming from.

[nerdsgetchicks]

It is simple. Go to the con and spend a bunch or go on Ebay and spend a bunch.

[krisk]

K, first off to be clear, not trying to argue with anyone. I just want to see where both sides are coming from.

yeah me neither.......but that arguement keeps coming up and I think its funny that they keep saying stuff like, Jinx and Rene SS and the Dollar General figs....and then say what if they charged $$$ for the fig(s) and people are charging $$$ for them.....hahaha

[dewrag]

yeah me neither.......but that arguement keeps coming up and I think its funny that they keep saying stuff like, Jinx and Rene SS and the Dollar General figs....and then say what if they charged $$$ for the fig(s) and people are charging $$$ for them.....hahaha

there are people that sometimes just love to hate.

[krisk]

there are people that sometimes just love to hate.

hahaha, right! oh well, I have fun no matter what side of the fence I am on!!
cuz I have been on both sides now!! hahaha

[dewrag]

as long as what your doing is keeping you entertained then your golden :)

[Headman]

CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP! What's that sound? Is it a little bird? CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP! No, it's another GI Joe collector complaining about having to pay what the seller is asking.

[krisk]

as long as what your doing is keeping you entertained then your golden :)

damn skippy!!

[Cobra80]

............

[Headman]

Who me? Sorry I don't need a Lame Ass Darklon figure. There is only two Exclusive Joe figures from the ME I want/wanted. TTT Sarge which I got and paid $15.00 for at a toy show and the Rowdy Piper. I Will get the Rowdy one day.

I don't need the IG figures, nor the Craplon figure so no biggs on my side.

Out of all the posts in this thread how on Earth did you assume I was talking about you?

[krisk]

Out of all the posts in this thread how on Earth did you assume I was talking about you?

hahaha

[CrimsonGuard101]

CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP! What's that sound? Is it a little bird? CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP! No, it's another GI Joe collector complaining about having to pay what the seller is asking.

Nahh not really...the issue/topic here is why the club caters specifically to scalpers over the club members. Why do they get the benefit of the doubt? What incentive are they giving the con over my home-front purchases of the same price? between an attendee and non-attendee there is no valid difference. We all pay the same price $345 attending or not attending. You'd think the club would want as much from both vectors as possible. Why limit your income like that? The excuse afforded the club is they can;t figure out how many sets/number of souvenirs to have on hand.

Heres an easier way for them to determine how many sets to make given the everything sold out so rapidly. Make enough souvenirs + sets(bagged) for all renewed members whether attending or not attending (club exclusive offer only, increase home front package to $450). during registration for the con, you pick and choose what items you want from the souvenir packages to supplement your bagged set as both attendee/non-attendee members. Then they can sell any of the left overs at the con for those to resell at normal con pricing to anyone. I just don't see why the club can not help out and help prevent some of this over pricing and why everyone is so against the club doing this to help every one out. i am really baffled at that since everyone knows whose buying this stuff when there is no option left...your fellow tankers...its not some transfomers/He man collector looking to scalp as much as he can to buy my little ponies next week...there has to be a mean solution to make this happen better for all involved.

[kuh_rupht]

Not sure if somebody brought this point up already but considering the average market increase percent, the prices on ebay are fairly reasonable. I saw a resolute flint figure sell for $20 which based on a $7 retail value gives you a 280% value increase. Close to what the convention figures are selling for and they are much rarer. Consider ren ss, he has a 570% value increase. By that standard the two pack should be selling for more than $400.

[Headman]

Nahh not really...the issue/topic here is why the club caters specifically to scalpers over the club members. Why do they get the benefit of the doubt? What incentive are they giving the con over my home-front purchases of the same price? between an attendee and non-attendee there is no valid difference. We all pay the same price $345 attending or not attending. You'd think the club would want as much from both vectors as possible. Why limit your income like that? The excuse afforded the club is they can;t figure out how many sets/number of souvenirs to have on hand.

Heres an easier way for them to determine how many sets to make given the everything sold out so rapidly. Make enough souvenirs + sets(bagged) for all renewed members whether attending or not attending (club exclusive offer only, increase home front package to $450). during registration for the con, you pick and choose what items you want from the souvenir packages to supplement your bagged set as both attendee/non-attendee members. Then they can sell any of the left overs at the con for those to resell at normal con pricing to anyone. I just don't see why the club can not help out and help prevent some of this over pricing and why everyone is so against the club doing this to help every one out. i am really baffled at that since everyone knows whose buying this stuff when there is no option left...your fellow tankers...its not some transfomers/He man collector looking to scalp as much as he can to buy my little ponies next week...there has to be a mean solution to make this happen better for all involved.


Why would the club care what people re-sell the sets for once they get their money?

[firefox91]

It is simple. Go to the con and spend a bunch or go on Ebay and spend a bunch.

Hey now! We can't go having you insert logic in to this conversation! No way man. This is all about making unrealistic complaints until our dreams come true.

[nerdsgetchicks]

It is simple. Go to the con and spend a bunch or go on Ebay and spend a bunch.

Hey now! We can't go having you insert logic in to this conversation! No way man. This is all about making unrealistic complaints until our dreams come true.

I was tired! I cannot begin to understand what the F#@& is wrong with some of the people on here. If I went to the con and purchased the stuff, I would keep it for myself!! No trades, swaps, sales, or freebies at all! I say either go to the damned Con or pay what the price is at the time on Ebay.

There is no "magic" that can help you get the con stuff. It is time and cash. Either take the time to go get it or cash out on Ebay for the cool ultra yummy items.

I see all these folks posting want this and want that! Then they try to trade crap or lowball for the items.

[mr_david]

we spent about $50 that night......playing the balloon and then went to bingo..haha, it was fun!

Dropped $60 on the balloons...Me and my brother-in-law pooled are fake money together for the auction and we end up winning four pieces of concept art work from Hasbro. To me this stuff was the real score in my haul from Joe Con. Truly in my mind the art work that we won is priceless.

[mr_david]

So by your logic, if someone drove around to 20 different Walmarts and bought 3 Renegades Storm Shadows and asked $50.00 each that's cool right? Because you got to off set the cost for the gas $$ you spent, the pit stop for a bite to eat because driving to 20 walmarts you might get hungry right. So why do Tankers bash this practice but not the con practice?

Just checking.

Really?!?!?

[mr_david]

Actually Dave it was a house I found for 450 for the whole week a block away from the french quarter.......too bad drama seemed to forget it.....or not want to listen...

They never listen!

[mr_david]

Honestly I start all my auctions at either a .01 or .99 and let the market figure out what its worth. IMO your stupid if you do buy it now. And yes I'm selling con exclusives to off set my costs of the trip...

What he said!

[mr_david]

It is simple. Go to the con and spend a bunch or go on Ebay and spend a bunch.

So true....No matter what side you are on in this rant the bottom line is we are all spending a tone of cash on some plastic.

[kneroh]

Nahh not really...the issue/topic here is why the club caters specifically to scalpers over the club members. Why do they get the benefit of the doubt? What incentive are they giving the con over my home-front purchases of the same price? between an attendee and non-attendee there is no valid difference. We all pay the same price $345 attending or not attending. You'd think the club would want as much from both vectors as possible. Why limit your income like that?

Because insanely high secondary market prices drive people to the show. The figures and vehicles are pretty much at such a high price right now that it's nearly just as cheap to go to con, buy the sets there and you get a vacation out of it.

The higher the price goes the more a collector is going to ask himself "should I just go to con and not take the risk of paying a 400%, 500% or even higher markup on everything next year?

[CrimsonGuard101]

Because insanely high secondary market prices drive people to the show. The figures and vehicles are pretty much at such a high price right now that it's nearly just as cheap to go to con, buy the sets there and you get a vacation out of it.

The higher the price goes the more a collector is going to ask himself "should I just go to con and not take the risk of paying a 400%, 500% or even higher markup on everything next year?

Ah hell screw it you guys are always right and just accept this rediculous over-inflation, I guess the only option is to become a scalper too. I am just goiung to setup 10 accounts next year and do unto others as they do unto you. I hope the increase the golden tickets, number I am getting at least 4 of those.

[Cobra80]

Out of all the posts in this thread how on Earth did you assume I was talking about you?

Sorry, once it's past midnight my eyes get a little tired. My mistake.

[Cobra80]

hahaha

Yeah, I totally pictured that big annoying kid from the Simpsons, Nelson when I saw your post. :)

[Cobra80]

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[Headman]

Oh its true, its DAMN true. I have 1 RENE SS in my collection and the 2nd one I sold for $6.97 (COST) so it was a simple scenario question.


Dude. You got ripped off.

[Cobra80]

Dude. You got ripped off.

How did I get ripped off? I helped a fellow collector obtain a HIGHLY sought after figure. It feels good to PAY IT FORWARD.

I acutally lost money due to the fact of the gas I paid over $4.00, I didn't charge the guy for shipping, the cost of the tape and the bubble wrap (about $6.00)

[figureware]

I remember I lost five auctions for a SDCC Destro (Pimpdaddy) and I lost several more auctions on other stuff I wanted. Its tough but sometimes its not worth it to break the bank! Unless your a completest and if your a completest you plan on opening a museum...if not Ive seen customs that look cooler than most Club figures. I passed on most Love Zarana she was totally worth the $65 bucks and after that I just pick and choose what I want and like.

[mr_david]

Look….I attended the con and had a hell of a time. Did I get everything I wanted and more….yes! Will I make some cash after I factor in all my costs in maybe….who knows.
But guess what I will not be able to make it to SDCC 2012 and I will most likely pay out the ass for jinx and the shockwave hiss tank. Will I pay the over inflated price….yes…because I want all three items.

So really I see it from both sides. But again you either pay what the market dictates or you go without it really is that simple.

[JoeMama]

Not sure if somebody brought this point up already but considering the average market increase percent, the prices on ebay are fairly reasonable. I saw a resolute flint figure sell for $20 which based on a $7 retail value gives you a 280% value increase. Close to what the convention figures are selling for and they are much rarer. Consider ren ss, he has a 570% value increase. By that standard the two pack should be selling for more than $400.

uhm... how'd you come up with that math?
If an item costs $7, than a 100% mark up would be $14.
If an item costs $21, it would be a 200% mark up (price + 100% markup = $14, + another 100% markup of $7 (the original price) = $21).
How'd you get 280%?
I think you mean it costs 2.8x as much as the original price, not 280%.
Not to be the math police, but dividing backwards is not a percentage markup.

More to the point, though, I do agree with you.
You are correct in your statement for the price ratio of initial retail to secondary resale.

[kuh_rupht]

Although Id love to claim it was late when I posted, that was just dumb. Haha.

uhm... how'd you come up with that math?
If an item costs $7, than a 100% mark up would be $14.
If an item costs $21, it would be a 200% mark up (price + 100% markup = $14, + another 100% markup of $7 (the original price) = $21).
How'd you get 280%?
I think you mean it costs 2.8x as much as the original price, not 280%.
Not to be the math police, but dividing backwards is not a percentage markup.

More to the point, though, I do agree with you.
You are correct in your statement for the price ratio of initial retail to secondary resale.