More OG from the club?

[Blot]

Just got this e-mail;



Hello all!

Just as a CHECK and we are NOT saying we are going to do this.....

We are curious as to how many of you did not get the Oktober Guard set and would still like to order one (boxed only)? We don't know if there is enough demand left to meet the MOQ (minimum order quantity) with the manufacturer.

In addition, we have NOT cleared any potential additional manufacturing quantities with Hasbro. So that we have an idea and can better serve you with future sets, if you would be interested in a set (IF it were possible to make more and it was approved), please fill out the attached spreadsheet with ALL of the information requested by Monday, July 2nd and return it to this email's return address (oktoberguard@gijoecon.com). We will only analyze spreadsheets that are returned and will not count/look at information in the email as this is a huge task.

We will analyze the data and see how much demand is still pending and we will let you know soon after July second if there is enough demand to warrant a second run. There should be no variation in the two runs.

I don't want anyone to get false hopes but we don't know what the potential demand is unless we ask. So, at this point assume that we will not be making any additional sets.

Thanks for helping us gauge your desires!

Brian

If folk want em I suggest you let Brian know!

[sbartek1974]

Lody beat you to it.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-general-discussion/245232-possible-second-run-2012-oktober-guard-convention-set.html

[fireflyguy]

I wish they'd re-release the Mission Brazil set, then I'd be all over it.

[Knight-Owl]

I wish they'd re-release the Mission Brazil set, then I'd be all over it.

As would I. I think that is one of the best con sets in a long time.

[Blot]

Lody beat you to it.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-general-discussion/245232-possible-second-run-2012-oktober-guard-convention-set.html

Bah! A day late and a dollar short once again!

[spiderpumpkin]

Flipping the sets may be harder now if buyers know of a possible cheaper alternative.

[fireflyguy]

Flipping the sets may be harder now if buyers know of a possible cheaper alternative.

Well, it just depends on how many extra. There will still probably be high demand. Those Mission Brazil figures are still going for crazy money on eBay, which is why I would love for the club to rerelease these. This is about the only thing I've ever regretted not getting.

[Tall Creeper]

Well I will certainly be filling this out as I would like a couple of these sets!

[Starfighter]

I think it is cool for the Club to think about this, but it is also uncool for them to make more after the convention as this is a convention set. The truth is that the exclusivity of it loses it's appeal and value. In reality, the Club should have announced this weeks ago, not the week of convention as many want to sell their sets to pay for part of the expenses of the convention.

Regardless, I hope that all that want it, get it. We as Joe fans need our Joes. Especially the A.R.A.H. stuff.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Flipping the sets may be harder now if buyers know of a possible cheaper alternative.

fine in my book, peeps wanna em and they should provide em if it is possible to do so. Its supposed to be about fun...not about selling them and getting enough money to pay for 4 kids though school on the revenue on the secondary market due to limited supply and rubbing it in peoples faces...this would be a good gesture from the club to do this in the future too, when they strike gold with a con set and under produce, come back with another order later on to supply the demand. This would be a perfect opportunity to throw up a pre-order for it, if it meets their minimum required order amount , if not oh well move on.

[Lody]

fine in my book, peeps wanna em and they should provide em if it is possible to do so. Its supposed to be about fun...not about selling them and getting enough money to pay for 4 kids though school on the revenue on the secondary market due to limited supply and rubbing it in peoples faces...this would be a good gesture from the club to do this in the future too, when they strike gold with a con set and under produce, come back with another order later on to supply the demand. This would be a perfect opportunity to throw up a pre-order for it, if it meets their minimum required order amount , if not oh well move on.

You just love jumping to conclusions, huh?

The majority of those that purchase more than one set are are selling it to off set their costs of attending the con.

Why oh why oh why in the H-E-Double hockey sticks in this so darn difficult for people to understand???

[drunknmunky]

You just love jumping to conclusions, huh?

The majority of those that purchase more than one set are are selling it to off set their costs of attending the con.

Why oh why oh why in the H-E-Double hockey sticks in this so darn difficult for people to understand???

Going to the Con is an event, vacation, gathering, whatever you want it to be. When you start selling stuff to ” recoup your costs” you are a scalper, plain and simple. There's nothing wrong with that. But using it as an excuse to sell everything you buy to recoup costs is just a lame excuse. Seriously you go to the con to get the items for yourself or for others. Buying them and reselling them for any reason is scalping. Like I said I have no problem with doing it, I just hate people trying to justify their scalping. Hell I've sold almost everything I bought at the Con and turned a nice profit. I still probably didn't cover all my costs but I had a blast. But people saying ” I'm going to the con and I'm gonna buy and sell everything to recoup my costs” is like someone going to Wal Mart and buying up all the hard to find collectables and saying ” I'm only selling them to recoup my gas costs from driving around all day.”

[skinny]

You just love jumping to conclusions, huh?

The majority of those that purchase more than one set are are selling it to off set their costs of attending the con.

Why oh why oh why in the H-E-Double hockey sticks in this so darn difficult for people to understand???

If they have to buy a set to offset their cost of going to con, maybe they should not be going to con in the first place. speaking purely from a financial standpoint.

more OG:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/akemiconstruction/cartoon/og_readmore2.jpg

[kennywr22]

I can see it from both point of views. I'm sure there are those who just buy it all to re sell and make some quick cash, but the fact is if some decides to sell off some of their items to re coup a little of their costs, I would hardly call them scalpers.

[Lody]

You just love jumping to conclusions, huh?

The majority of those that purchase more than one set are are selling it to off set their costs of attending the con.

Why oh why oh why in the H-E-Double hockey sticks in this so darn difficult for people to understand???

Going to the Con is an event, vacation, gathering, whatever you want it to be. When you start selling stuff to ” recoup your costs” you are a scalper, plain and simple. There's nothing wrong with that. But using it as an excuse to sell everything you buy to recoup costs is just a lame excuse. Seriously you go to the con to get the items for yourself or for others. Buying them and reselling them for any reason is scalping. Like I said I have no problem with doing it, I just hate people trying to justify their scalping. Hell I've sold almost everything I bought at the Con and turned a nice profit. I still probably didn't cover all my costs but I had a blast. But people saying ” I'm going to the con and I'm gonna buy and sell everything to recoup my costs” is like someone going to Wal Mart and buying up all the hard to find collectables and saying ” I'm only selling them to recoup my gas costs from driving around all day.”

You missed where I said:

"of those that purchase more than one set"

More jumping to conclusions

Let me break it down for everyone the same way I broke it down for someone else last week:

If I sell it, it's in MY collection or someone in my family.

I buy TWO and sell one to cover the costs of buying TWO so what I add to MY collection costs me as little to zero as possible to have it.

I have sustained my collection and hobby by learning how to either:

Break even

OR

Turn a profit

Over the last few years, I have emassed a HUGE collection:

Found here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-collection-showcase/59913-my-toy-room.html

by employing this method

Now

You might not like it, agree with and hell, it might even make you a little jealous, but one look at my feedback here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-sell-trade-feedback/18026-lody.html

Also shows that I go above and beyond helping out those in the Joe world that reach out and ask me.

Going to the con is going to cost me X

My goal when I am done is to either resell my extra set and make X

OR

X+Y

NOW

While I am at the con, I also on the lookout for a few items for a number of people that have reached out to me and asked me either track them down or pick them up. I am hoping to do this for them. I will also be doing this while in the middle of meeting and greeting all those great people that I have interacted with at the last con I atteded (2010) and those that I have yet to meet.

MY stance on "Scalping" (as I still think that this is the most overused word in the community and usually used by those that are upset that someone else has something that they want) is people buying stuff that they have ZERO interest in and are looking to turn a profit on by selling it for the maximum that they can. Clearly as I have outlined here, this is NOT the case with me as what I buy is in my personal collection (again-reference that link labled My Toy Room) thus I DO NOT fit that description.

Good?

Good

Class dismissed boys and girls.

[Lody]

I can see it from both point of views. I'm sure there are those who just buy it all to re sell and make some quick cash, but the fact is if some decides to sell off some of their items to re coup a little of their costs, I would hardly call them scalpers.

Kenny sounds like a reasonable guy

See my post above as this is part of what is happening

[wormser]

are the mods gonna keep 2 of the same threads going like this?

[Starfighter]

are the mods gonna keep 2 of the same threads going like this?

They should just merge them.

[drunknmunky]

You missed where I said:

"of those that purchase more than one set"

More jumping to conclusions

Let me break it down for everyone the same way I broke it down for someone else last week:

If I sell it, it's in MY collection or someone in my family.

I buy TWO and sell one to cover the costs of buying TWO so what I add to MY collection costs me as little to zero as possible to have it.

I have sustained my collection and hobby by learning how to either:

Break even

OR

Turn a profit

Over the last few years, I have emassed a HUGE collection:

Found here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-collection-showcase/59913-my-toy-room.html

by employing this method

Now

You might not like it, agree with and hell, it might even make you a little jealous, but one look at my feedback here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-sell-trade-feedback/18026-lody.html

Also shows that I go above and beyond helping out those in the Joe world that reach out and ask me.

Going to the con is going to cost me X

My goal when I am done is to either resell my extra set and make X

OR

X+Y

NOW

While I am at the con, I also on the lookout for a few items for a number of people that have reached out to me and asked me either track them down or pick them up. I am hoping to do this for them. I will also be doing this while in the middle of meeting and greeting all those great people that I have interacted with at the last con I atteded (2010) and those that I have yet to meet.

MY stance on "Scalping" (as I still think that this is the most overused word in the community and usually used by those that are upset that someone else has something that they want) is people buying stuff that they have ZERO interest in and are looking to turn a profit on by selling it for the maximum that they can. Clearly as I have outlined here, this is NOT the case with me as what I buy is in my personal collection (again-reference that link labled My Toy Room) thus I DO NOT fit that description.

Good?

Good

Class dismissed boys and girls.

I understand what you're saying. Trust me I do. But it's still scalping nonetheless. Scalping is selling anything above cost to turn a profit. The thing is we only look at scalpers like you described them- going around buying up stuff they have no intentions of keeping to turn a quick profit. But no matter how you look at it that's exactly what is going on. Just because you keep one for yourself doesn't change the fact that scalping is defined as buying something simply to turn a profit. Like I said I have no problem with it, I've done it myself. I just hate when people bad mouth scalpers but then make excuses when they do the exact same thing.

[fireflyguy]

I don't think it's scalping, but I'm also not gonna pay the eBay prices for these either. I thought about buying last year's convention set because I wanted de Aco and Wetsuit. I was going to try and sell everything else to makeup for almost $400(?)price tag, but didn't wanna take the chance. I'm obviously not much of a gambler. And yes, I'm a little jealous of Lody, but I got nothin' bad to say about him. ;-)

[Lody]

I understand what you're saying. Trust me I do. But it's still scalping nonetheless. Scalping is selling anything above cost to turn a profit. The thing is we only look at scalpers like you described them- going around buying up stuff they have no intentions of keeping to turn a quick profit. But no matter how you look at it that's exactly what is going on. Just because you keep one for yourself doesn't change the fact that scalping is defined as buying something simply to turn a profit. Like I said I have no problem with it, I've done it myself. I just hate when people bad mouth scalpers but then make excuses when they do the exact same thing.

Buying two figures for $10 each and selling one for $20 = $0.00 profit and a new figure in my collection

That's not "scalping"

Buying two figures for $10 and selling BOTH for $20 each = $20 profit and not having them in your collection

That's "scalping"

[fireflyguy]

Buying two figures for $10 each and selling one for $20 = $0.00 profit and a new figure in my collection

That's not "scalping"

Buying two figures for $10 and selling BOTH for $20 each = $20 profit and not having them in your collection

That's "scalping"

That's capitalism. God bless America!!

[Lody]

That's capitalism. God bless America!!

See my avatar and be sure to salute!

:D

[skinny]

end consumer pays 20 dollars for 10 dollar product = 10 dollar profit to seller

[Lody]

end consumer pays 20 dollars for 10 dollar product = 10 dollar profit to seller

It's not a $10 profit if costs are $20 to begin with and it sold for $20 even if it is a $10 item

[chuckles32]

buy low sell high, ancient secret to success.

[Midnightinferno]

end consumer pays 20 dollars for 10 dollar product = 10 dollar profit to seller

Right you end up with a figure where the guy that payed 20 for one felt he had to pay that price because you got to the store (retail or online) before he could. That is what we dislike about those we call scalpers. Weather you call yourself a scalper or not you are takeing the availability of an item out of a group of peoples grasp counting on a fraction of them to desire the item enough to pay more for it.

[Midnightinferno]

Do you seriously fail to grasp that your profit is the figure?

[skinny]

It's not a $10 profit if costs are $20 to begin with and it sold for $20 even if it is a $10 item
the two purchases are not connected
it is like buying two apples at once with the expectation that your apple will be free if you sell the other apple for twice as much, basically you spent your profit before you had it.

[Shin Densetsu]

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-general-discussion/245232-possible-second-run-2012-oktober-guard-convention-set.html