JoeDeclassified Booth: JOECON 2012

[Gyre-Viper]

Joe Declassified is very excited to bring you and invite you to the
Joe Declassified Booth at JoeCon 2012!!!!


If you’re not familiar with Joe Declassified or the Joe Declassified Booth, please visit JoeDeclassified.com and JoeDeclassified.com/forum or seek out previous Joe Declassified Booth related threads across the forums.


The Joe Declassified Booth staff, contributors, and volunteers have spent the last year-plus discovering, accumulating, and organizing some amazing GI JOE history from the past 30 years, to debut at this year’s convention. You will see things that pretty much no one has seen before as well as things that pretty much no one has seen before outside of a catalog or magazine photo or panel.

There will be prototypes, artwork, international grails, vintage rarities, completely unknown items that up to this point still remain unidentified, samples of unproduced and unreleased concepts both 2 and 3 dimensional, rare non-toy and role-play items (both preproduction and beyond). You can expect items and concepts from 1982 onward (if not earlier): ARAH, Star Brigade, Sgt. Savage, Extreme, Battle Corps Rangers, Sigma 6, 25th Anniversary, etc. You will see items that range from samples of the earliest steps in the preproduction process to previously unseen or rarely photographed preproduction variations. There will of course be some returning artifacts from previous years, as well as things that have surfaced and have been documented recently, but have not yet made their Joe Declassified Booth debut up until now. This is your chance to experience these things, upfront and in person, and to be able to talk about them with the collectors who have dedicated their time and efforts to discovering and documenting the history of GI JOE.

We hope everyone attending the convention will come by to see what we have on display and we hope you will come and talk to us and ask us questions about what is in the booth. Of course we do this in part so that people can see these things, but we really do it in hopes that you’ll engage us in conversation. So please come talk to us. Please ask us questions!!!!!


We will of course have a NEW issue of the FREE Joe Declassified Magazine at the booth for you to take home. You can download previous issues at JoeDeclassified.com if you need to catch up. We ask that you do NOT sell these magazines. The magazine is fueled solely by donations and no one gets paid for writing the articles or providing content. Joe Declassified is a not-for-profit organization and so we ask that if you do NOT want your copy of the magazine, to please GIVE it to someone who might. Please do NOT sell it on ebay or anywhere else.

NO PHOTOS are allowed to be taken at the Joe Declassified Booth. The items in the booth are donated by volunteers and staff and out of respect for said contributors, we ask that NO photographs are taken of what is in the booth. The booth and its contents are also meant to be something exclusive to convention attendees. There have also been issues in the past with people photographing things in the booth and trying to use those images to turn a profit. So for several reasons, we must request that you do NOT take any photos of the Joe Declassified Booth nor the items displayed within. Some of what is being shown in the booth this year, will be uploaded to the new JoeDeclassified.com archives, JoeIntel.com, and YoJoe.com, or will be shown through the Joe Declassified Podcast (www.podbean.com/jdso (http://www.podbean.com/jdso)). So while we do NOT allow pictures of the items in the booth, some of the things revealed at JoeCon, will show up elsewhere, very soon.



We do NOT sell anything at the Joe Declassified Booth. Nothing is for sale. Everything is for display only.


This year we will have TWO entire booths dedicated to Joe Declassified. Make sure you come back each day as we like to try and rotate the selection as the weekend progresses. What is on display Friday may not be on display the following day. What we show off on Saturday might not have been there the day before. Again, we are very happy and eager to talk about anything and everything in the booth. So please feel free to ask questions or just open a dialogue with us. Don’t be shy. You’re not bothering us, and we are there for YOU. We hope you are as excited as we are!!!!!!

See you in NOLA,

Joe Declassified:
The Hidden World of GI JOE.

[Starfighter]

I will check it out.

[The Commander]

Make sure to wish Gyre a happy birthday as well

[Tom-1]

Probably ten times more interesting than any panel put on at the show. : )

Tom

[kneroh]

Will there be balloon animals and free soda?

[Xenos]

I have to admit, the Declassified booth is my #1 reason for wanting to go to Joe con. Maybe next year.

[drunknmunky]

I highly recommend making time to hang out at the Declassified booth. There's tons of awesome stuff that you will not see ever again. Last year he they had some great prototypes, 2 Ups, amazing artwork. I tried to buy the crazy multi colored Hiss last year but of course was told it was not for sale. So I debated stealing it :) Seriously though the people in the booth are very knowledgeable and willing to talk about the stuff. I'm not going this year and I'm most disappointed in the fact that I won't get to see what the Declassified booth has to offer.

[Lody]

This is one of if not THE booth I am looking fwd to seeing.

Will you guys be rotating stuff out all weekend?

[KushViper]

See you there. I'll come by and jive-talk with you guys again.

[musashi3000gt]

I'm most disappointed in the fact that I won't get to see what the Declassified booth has to offer.

Dont worry bro, I'll take lots of pictures of everything for you!


..................oh wait.........no it... it says right there I cant...........damn.

[Gyre-Viper]

This is one of if not THE booth I am looking fwd to seeing.

Will you guys be rotating stuff out all weekend?


There are definitely things that will most likely be held back for Sat and Sun that won't be out on Friday. But we really won't know to what extent until we start setting up on Friday since we are wielding TWO booths this year.
It's something that hasn't been done before in regards to the Declassified Booth.. having all that room for stuff.

[Duffmann]

Will there be balloon animals and free soda?

After reading this I really hope so, that would be great.

[Black Llama]

Will there be balloon animals and free soda?

Ken, sorry man, I forgot to book the booth next to De-Classified. So we can't run the Iron Grenadiers - No-Class-Inside booth. We'll have to leave the clown make up and ball gags at home :\

[ShockVal]

Did you finally paint all those plain looking figures?

[CobraOfficer999]

Sounds interesting. I might stop by.

[cmderinchief]

Sounds interesting. I might stop by.

Me too!

[Gyre-Viper]

Me too!


Pretty sure you're banned from the booth, Godsoe.

[cmderinchief]

Rats...

[sithlordsmart]

As much as I would love to be there, unfort due to my job ill be missing this years Joe con. Looking foward to going next year!!!

[Gyre-Viper]

As much as I would love to be there, unfort due to my job ill be missing this years Joe con. Looking foward to going next year!!!


Some of us are already getting started on next year's booth!

[The Commander]

just a few more days, WOOT!

[Jim_Beutel]

Although there is NO picture taking at the Declassified booth, I believe that you will be able to purchase 8x10 glossy photos of Gyre Viper for $10. Autographed is an additional $5.

[Gyre-Viper]

Although there is NO picture taking at the Declassified booth, I believe that you will be able to purchase 8x10 glossy photos of Gyre Viper for $10. Autographed is an additional $5.


Price went up since I had my nose hairs chromed.

[Headman]

Gyre just doesn't want any more pics of him on the web. Rumor has it he's really let himself go.

[Gyre-Viper]

Gyre just doesn't want any more pics of him on the web. Rumor has it he's really let himself go.


Why do you think we needed two booths this year?

[Headman]

Why do you think we needed two booths this year?

Rare mcdonalds happy meal prototypes?

[spiderpumpkin]

Why do you think we needed two booths this year?

SK Omega

[cmderinchief]

Oh, you must have missed Nomad's response in the other thread you like to revive from time to time:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/114828-any-news-omega-sk-molten-monkey-toys-5.html#post3438151

[rdodger]

Looking forward to stopping by The Booth.

[spiderpumpkin]

Is videotaping allowed?

[RuckusJr]

Is videotaping allowed?

Dude, really?

[spiderpumpkin]

Dude, really?

Yeah, really. It says no photos. Maybe they allow videos. Just asking a question. Just hopeful someone will show some video if it's allowed.

[spiderpumpkin]

Oh, you must have missed Nomad's response in the other thread you like to revive from time to time:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/114828-any-news-omega-sk-molten-monkey-toys-5.html#post3438151

I was hoping something might be shown from that line. Thanks for the link. I missed it when Nomad posted a few months ago. Hopefully, there's a podcast update later this summer on your show.

[The L.O.C.]

Yeah, really. It says no photos. Maybe they allow videos. Just asking a question. Just hopeful someone will show some video if it's allowed.

Because still shots can't be taken from video?

[Gyre-Viper]

Is videotaping allowed?

Um no.

[kneroh]

Um no.

carbon paper etchings?

[spiderpumpkin]

Um no.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Lody]

Is videotaping allowed?

Um no.

See..the problem here is that Gyre's mystique and aura rely on him being eerily similar to oft spoken of but rarely seen Chupacabra.

[spiderpumpkin]

Because still shots can't be taken from video?

See..the problem here is that Gyre's mystique and aura rely on him being eerily similar to oft spoken of but rarely seen Chupacabra.

I guess I better start floating down the Mississippi if I want to see the prototypes. I enjoyed the booth in 2008 and 2009. Too bad it's so exclusive.

[Steve T]

carbon paper etchings?

Haha.

Detailed descriptions?

[Headman]

Will pictures be available to purchase at the giftshop?

[spiderpumpkin]

Will pictures be available to purchase at the giftshop?

Probably next year?

[mightyjl]

Most Joe fans don't care about the dumb crap you display

[The L.O.C.]

Most Joe fans don't care about the dumb crap you display

Yeah, you are right. Just the original mock ups of figures, preproduction art work and pieces of history of the line since its inception. Things that never made it to release, etc., etc...

What are you people thinking, paying for two booths this year and putting out a free magazine? How much are tickets to your booth(s)? Oh wait, it's free...

People doing things for the community for the love of the brand. Agreed all crap, dumb crap at that.

[spiderpumpkin]

Yeah, you are right. Just the original mock ups of figures, preproduction art work and pieces of history of the line since its inception. Things that never made it to release, etc., etc...

What are you people thinking, paying for two booths this year and putting out a free magazine? How much are tickets to your booth(s)? Oh wait, it's free...

People doing things for the community for the love of the brand. Agreed all crap, dumb crap at that.

Please post authorized/sanctioned/approved/uncensored pictures ASAP after Joecon for the non-Joecon community.

[Tom-1]

Most Joe fans don't care about the dumb crap you display

I always find it cute when you girls say "most fans" as if you actually believe your petty, selfish ideas reflect on all of us.

An actual GI Joe FAN enjoys seeing internal Hasbro office productions and mock-ups, unused prototypes, never-before-seen concepts and just to know the history of the brand they love. It's the difference between being a 'fan' and being a 'consumer', which I'll venture a guess is as deep as your interests go.

That, and obviously feeling good about yourself on the internet by trying to demean the things others do.

Tom

[Havok]

Can't wait to check it out!

[spiderpumpkin]

I always find it cute when you girls say "most fans" as if you actually believe your petty, selfish ideas reflect on all of us.

An actual GI Joe FAN enjoys seeing internal Hasbro office productions and mock-ups, unused prototypes, never-before-seen concepts and just to know the history of the brand they love. It's the difference between being a 'fan' and being a 'consumer', which I'll venture a guess is as deep as your interests go.

That, and obviously feeling good about yourself on the internet by trying to demean the things others do.

Tom

Please feel free to share some pictures with the fans not attending.

[Lody]

Most Joe fans don't care about the dumb crap you display

Wow

This coming froma dude with My Little Pony in his sig

You have alot to learn grasshopper

[Tom-1]

Please feel free to share some pictures with the fans not attending.

No. Attend. They don't put on a show so you can sit home and have it e-mailed to you. Stop being so ridiculously self-centered for five seconds and recognize that being a fan does not mean being catered to.

Tom

[cmderinchief]

Please post authorized/sanctioned/approved/uncensored pictures ASAP after Joecon for the non-Joecon community.

Just let it go man. It's been the same request made of guests of the Declass table since Dallas. I don't understand why every year this one request is made in mountain out of a mole hill.

If you want, I would be happy to share with you photos of the pieces of my collection I will be contributing to the table, but at least respect those who do not want their property photographed.

I will say, I did catch someone trying to sell the 2009 CJC HATE tank using a photo of my tank on display in the Declass booth.

[Nomad]

Please post authorized/sanctioned/approved/uncensored pictures ASAP after Joecon for the non-Joecon community.

To quote myself from before:

The truth of the matter is that despite my large and wild ambitions, Declassified still remains a small project, largely dependent on the good will and graces of friends who voluntarily choose to be involved.

In an effort to provide fellow Joe fans with everything we can, sometimes deals have to be struck. If contributors are going to only offer up pieces for display at the convention under the terms that no pictures be taken, then I am going to oblige their request. The heart of Declassified is that is a community based project - Joe fans contributing on the behalf of other Joe fans. That said, I have to honor the obligations and stipulations that the contributors extract as part of the deal. Would that I owned every piece ever on display in our booth, I would happily invite photography, but the policy remains in place at the request of my assosciates - and it is their policy that we enforce at the booth. I understand that this might appear contradictory, but I would rather be able to share some unique and rare parts of Joe history with some of the collector populace, than none of them. There is no desire to create any sense of elitism or exclusivity - were it up to me, the Conventions would stay in a consistent location and be more affordable to the average fan. As it is, Joe Declassified runs the booth and publishes our magazine at a personal financial loss to myself (and I wouldn't have it any other way).

thread: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-conventions-get-togethers/103016-private-do-not-click-4.html

[spiderpumpkin]

Something I've wondered for a while. Are the pre-production items still Hasbro property?

[mightyjl]

I always find it cute when you girls say "most fans" as if you actually believe your petty, selfish ideas reflect on all of us.

An actual GI Joe FAN enjoys seeing internal Hasbro office productions and mock-ups, unused prototypes, never-before-seen concepts and just to know the history of the brand they love. It's the difference between being a 'fan' and being a 'consumer', which I'll venture a guess is as deep as your interests go.

That, and obviously feeling good about yourself on the internet by trying to demean the things others do.

Tom

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.

[Starfighter]

Just let it go man. It's been the same request made of guests of the Declass table since Dallas. I don't understand why every year this one request is made in mountain out of a mole hill.

If you want, I would be happy to share with you photos of the pieces of my collection I will be contributing to the table, but at least respect those who do not want their property photographed.

I will say, I did catch someone trying to sell the 2009 CJC HATE tank using a photo of my tank on display in the Declass booth.

I agree. The truth is that those that have a booth paid to do so and should be respected. Yes, iris a convention, but they may not want to have their stuff all over the Internet for privacy sake.

[mightyjl]

Wow

This coming froma dude with My Little Pony in his sig

You have alot to learn grasshopper

Yup, and she is mocking your retarded ass

[Nomad]

Something I've wondered for a while. Are the pre-production items still Hasbro property?

That's a nebulous question, unfortunately, and one we can't always answer with certainty. YES, is what I'd like to emphatically claim. Much of our stuff for display is from the original line, and often purchased directly from the sculptors, artists, etc who were allowed to take them home. If one of them did so illicitly, it would be impossible for us to determine that.
For clarification, everything we show was obtained legally.

[spiderpumpkin]

Just let it go man. It's been the same request made of guests of the Declass table since Dallas. I don't understand why every year this one request is made in mountain out of a mole hill.

If you want, I would be happy to share with you photos of the pieces of my collection I will be contributing to the table, but at least respect those who do not want their property photographed.

I will say, I did catch someone trying to sell the 2009 CJC HATE tank using a photo of my tank on display in the Declass booth.

I did say sanctioned authorized. I didn't mean mission impossible button cam shots.

[Nomad]

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.


I have to ask - have our efforts somehow negatively affected your enjoyment of the hobby?

[Lody]

I have to ask - have our efforts somehow negatively affected your enjoyment of the hobby?

Clearly

[Nomad]

I did say sanctioned authorized. I didn't mean mission impossible button cam shots.

Yes, as stated elsewhere - we will have official images of the booth later on our site. Unfortunately, I have to edit out any items that the donors don't wish to share online.

[drunknmunky]

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.

Yeah you should hang out by the Declassified booth. Totally empty all weekend long. Nobody cares about that crap from the 80s. That's why they bought 2 booths- so they have room to set up a ping pong table and play beer pong to pass the time. No pictures allowed because drunk pictures always come back to haunt you.

[The L.O.C.]

Something I've wondered for a while. Are the pre-production items still Hasbro property?

No, they are in the hands of private collectors, on loan to declassified.com for the convention.

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.

Was there a vote for you to speak on their behalf? If so, I would go ahead and say MOST G.I. Joe fans did not hear about when and where election day was held.

[Lody]

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.

It's so much more than drawings, dude

Do you even know what you are talking about?

And

NO

You DO NOT speak for them

And it's attitudes like this are precisely the reason why only those in attendance get to see this material and why pictures are not allowed.

[cmderinchief]

I did say sanctioned authorized. I didn't mean mission impossible button cam shots.

Just let it go man, just let it go.

[Tom-1]

Whatever you say....

I personally enjoy seeing the new things being released in the future instead of a bunch of poorly drawn sketches from the 80's.

And considering MOST G.I. Joe fans don't even know that Joe Declassified exists, I think it's fair that I speak for them.

Of course you do. You only want what comes next. Next, next, next. You don't care about what it is or what came before. You're not a fan. You're a consumer.

The method in which these things are shown to you is irrelevant. YOU said fans don't care about the dumb crap they display. Which is it? Name recognition or fan interest? Because, I'll admit I give a care who shows it off. An individual collector, Declass, or Kirk Bozigian in a panel... I really don't lend them any credit beyond what they are due for creating it or procuring it. But the chance to see them is valuable.

Everyone likes to pretend having an opinion makes them infallable because it is - by virtue of being an opinion - not based on fact. Well, your opinion is wrong. I know because you are not very smart you will carry on, but the truth is the truth and the fact remains.

Tom

[drunknmunky]

Please feel free to share some pictures with the fans not attending.

I actually bought one of those RC helicopters with the tiny camera on it. I'm gonna get some awesome pictures of everything and have them available for sale after the convention. However I won't actually be attending the con so would you mind smuggling in the copter for me and I'll just fly it from the lap top at my house?

[spiderpumpkin]

Just let it go man, just let it go.

Are you moderating me for asking questions?

[Lody]

I actually bought one of those RC helicopters with the tiny camera on it. I'm gonna get some awesome pictures of everything and have them available for sale after the convention. However I won't actually be attending the con so would you mind smuggling in the copter for me and I'll just fly it from the lap top at my house?

Haha

I'm bringing my BB gun

:D

[cmderinchief]

Are you moderating me for asking questions?

Or am I giving friendly advice? You decide.

[The L.O.C.]

Are you moderating me for asking questions?

Nah... I think he is saying, these questions are asked every year and every year the same basic answers are put up. Just in fewer words :D

[RogueWingnut]

Is JoeDeclassified adding anything to Brokecon for us poor bastards who cant make the trek this year? ;)

[spiderpumpkin]

Or am I giving friendly advice? You decide.

or a real moderator would say you're theatening me.

[KrymsynGardImmoral]

I have to ask - have our efforts somehow negatively affected your enjoyment of the hobby?

That is, hands down, the nicest way I have ever seen Nomad phrase "What the fuck is your problem, asshole?"

[RogueWingnut]

Nah... I think he is saying, these questions are asked every year and every year the same basic answers are put up. Just in fewer words :D

and much less friendlier.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/Wingnut99/Comedy%20GIFs/tumblr_lhpckwkeSe1qf52yvo1_500.gif
(this was meant to make a laugh and lighten the thread up)

[Echo7Solo]

I have to ask - have our efforts somehow negatively affected your enjoyment of the hobby?

Don't let it get to you. Some people think it is cool to know how the rides and attractions work at Disney and others just want to believe the magic. There is no right or wrong way to enjoy the hobby but there are a lot of people who thank you for what you are doing.

[cmderinchief]

Is JoeDeclassified adding anything to Brokecon for us poor bastards who cant make the trek this year? ;)

As in what? Ask Gary to give you a shoutout on their podcast.

or a real moderator would say you're theatening me.

HA! All I can picture is this now:
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSeX-3mvnHMnIgTU6bFyOvDN8lhhHzqw2KrHRMUO0vLynsPf2S-

[RogueWingnut]

Ya know...Spider approached this thread like a dude scoping a hot chick on the beach...but boy did he get a surprise...



Take the rest of the night off muchacho.

[Nomad]

Don't let it get to you. Some people think it is cool to know how the rides and attractions work at Disney and others just want to believe the magic. There is no right or wrong way to enjoy the hobby but there are a lot of people who thank you for what you are doing.

I appreciate it. Don't worry - nothing here is getting to me - I'm just genuinely curious.

[Echo7Solo]

time to take the edge off guys.

[Nomad]

Is JoeDeclassified adding anything to Brokecon for us poor bastards who cant make the trek this year? ;)

Wasn't aware of such a thing - but it sounds AWESOME.

[Echo7Solo]

I appreciate it. Don't worry - nothing here is getting to me - I'm just genuinely curious.

Well I for one am thrilled at the infromation you guys are putting out. Having said that I'm not going to be going because I sepnt all my vacation time getting married and having a honeymoon.

[Echo7Solo]

Wasn't aware of such a thing - but it sounds AWESOME.

Brokecon is pretty much where a bunch of people hang out and have a good time on line here wishing we were there. It is a blast. Funny thing is more often than not people who can't get along any other time seem to have a blast doing that.

[Shin Densetsu]

Since this thread has degenerated into an off topic flame-fest this is closed. It's not like anyone needs a reminder of the booth since it is in some poster's sigs, it's not like this booth was low visibility, the word is out there and this thread need not go further.