Where do you think the OG set will stabilize?

[sithewok]

So, I'm among those who were unable to score an Oktober Guard set. (couldn't attend the con and missed the brutally short home front sale.). I find myself turning to eBay. Early on, bagged sets were commanding about 300-350, but are now trending upwards of 650....

My question is, where do you think the price will stabilize? Should I bite the bullet before the price goes even higher or will a deluge of these hitting eBay once the con begins drag the price down again? Just asking for opinions here. I know it's an extremely popular set, but will the increased supply help?

All I know is that I need this set, but I don't want to pay a ridiculous price if I dont have to...

[Jim_Beutel]

I hear a lot of comments about ebay prices on these, so I'd like to put some perspective on it. This is meant to be positive, by the way.

My attending set cost me 345. I also paid airfare and rental car, plus the hotel for 4 nights. That's about 900 more. I also have to feed myself, say 200 there for 4 days. So, I'm spending about 1500 for the con, before any convention exclusives.

I'm not making SDCC, but I'd love to get that Shockwave HISS. I'm willing to pay 3-4 times its "retail cost", because I'm not spending all the extra money I would need to to go.

To answer, I can see them around 4-500. That's a bargain when you factor in all the costs you're not incurring by not going.

[Gung.Heaux]

been watching this too. granted for the opposite reason.

my hope is, and with the way its trending, it shouldnt be an problem...that by selling off the figs from both sets individually, making enuff to keep the ones i do want, free and clear, and....have enuff left to completely pay for the FSS.

then sell at least half of them away to repay for the FSS.

yep.........what a great investment this has been.

[07GT500 COBRA]

The Mission Brazil II set currently has hit as high as $1000 on completed eBay listings. I think the Oktober Guard set is a safe bet to match that this time next year. I assume you're speculating price immeadiately after the con. I'll wager a box set will be minimum $500 and a bagged set $400. Get it now.

[wormser]

no way this box does as well as past sets. og is not everyones cup of tea

[atomatron]

no "Joes" this will nosedive

and for that matter no Cobras either!

[Steevy Maximus]

I expect this one to be fairly expensive after the fact:
-it features fan favorites the Oktober Guard (most in their first and so far, ONLY, Modern Era representation) and Iron Grenadiers (including some who are getting their first and only representation there as well).
-As far as numbers, I think this year's set is only a paltry 600 box sets (which is equal to or less than last year's set)

[dgnr82]

I'm hoping they go a bit higher. as this hobby is getting more expensive, its getting harder to keep up. I managed to get 1 of each set with the goal that I can make enough money to cover my boxed set free and clear after the con.

[RolandofGilead]

I was lucky enough to snag a Homefront Hero boxed and bagged set. I'm a fan of the Oktober Guard, and I love the Iron Grenadiers so this is the first time ever that I've bought the full boxed set. In the past I have picked up a bagged set from a kind tanker or two, or snagged individual figures of eBay.

This time around I wanted the whole thing, plus some extra IGs so I worked out a deal with a fellow Tanker who bought the Oktober Guard members from the bagged set and the rest is for me. I may sell a few of the extras, including Voltar, but I won't go near eBay so you'll see them here.

I hope the prices do go up as I paid $555 shipped for everything and that's a lot for me. I don't know about all the talk about no one liking the Oktober Guard, or nit picking the OG as it appears in this set. It all sounds like sour grapes to me.

[atomatron]

this thread makes me cry, no elaboration

enjoy and good luck to all

[The Commander]

well considering bagged sets are selling now for $600, I expect these sets to cost as much as last years

[Shadow Ninja]

So, I'm among those who were unable to score an Oktober Guard set. (couldn't attend the con and missed the brutally short home front sale.). I find myself turning to eBay. Early on, bagged sets were commanding about 300-350, but are now trending upwards of 650....

My question is, where do you think the price will stabilize? Should I bite the bullet before the price goes even higher or will a deluge of these hitting eBay once the con begins drag the price down again? Just asking for opinions here. I know it's an extremely popular set, but will the increased supply help?

All I know is that I need this set, but I don't want to pay a ridiculous price if I dont have to...

I don't think it's really going to drop because if people don't get the $600 for a bag set then they are going to break the set up and make just as much or more.. After last year people learned that there was money to be made on these sets...

[CrimsonGuard101]

650+ easily. The scalpers are going to have a field day with these...they sold out in 2 hours lol...also you can tell from those who have already posted here about thier plans to pay for thier $2000+ trip to bank on them off what they will be expecting price set wise.

Your best bet is to pay through the nose or find someone on here that will help you with a bagged set. I expect $1000 pretty quickly after the innital unsure price sets of $500-$700 the couple days after the con.

[Shadow Ninja]

I hear a lot of comments about ebay prices on these, so I'd like to put some perspective on it. This is meant to be positive, by the way.

My attending set cost me 345. I also paid airfare and rental car, plus the hotel for 4 nights. That's about 900 more. I also have to feed myself, say 200 there for 4 days. So, I'm spending about 1500 for the con, before any convention exclusives.

I'm not making SDCC, but I'd love to get that Shockwave HISS. I'm willing to pay 3-4 times its "retail cost", because I'm not spending all the extra money I would need to to go.

To answer, I can see them around 4-500. That's a bargain when you factor in all the costs you're not incurring by not going.

At leaset some Joe fans know the cost of going.. I think everyone wants to be hooked up and not contribute to the trip we have to make.. "How about paying for my plane ticket and some food and I'll give the set to you for cost..." That is what the rest of us attending should say...

[atomatron]

At leaset some Joe fans know the cost of going.. I think everyone wants to be hooked up and not contribute to the trip we have to make.. "How about paying for my plane ticket and some food and I'll give the set to you for cost..." That is what the rest of us attending should say...

same concept, different thread,
"eff you all for charging us more than retail when we cant find DGs, damn scalpers"

not a response to you Shadow, just a general observation

yo joe!

[Shadow Ninja]

same concept, different thread,
"eff you all for charging us more than retail when we cant find DGs"

not a response to you Shadow, just a general observation

yo joe!

I hooked up 6 Tankers with DG figures I had a friend in another state grab them for me and she shipped them to us....:) Sweet deal! She was my ex-girlfriend too now married but were really good friends!!

[atomatron]

i can hook up someone with a DG CT if you pay my mortgage off!

what a deal!

i mean think of all the expenses i have maintaining a household in an area where there are DG! its only fair!

[atomatron]

I hooked up 6 Tankers with DG figures I had a friend in another state grab them for me and she shipped them to us....:) Sweet deal! She was my ex-girlfriend too now married but were really good friends!!

i smell PH forum letter coming, bom chicka

[Dealer Destro]

If anyone has a Voltar they don't want PM me. I can be very generous. Thanks!

[CrimsonGuard101]

i can hook up someone with a DG CT if you pay my mortgage off!

what a deal!

i mean think of all the expenses i have maintaining a household in an area where there are DG! its only fair!

LOL...I'd liek a new NSX while were at it...

[Shadow Ninja]

Seems like the Dollar General figures might have been a one time thing.. They showed up a little over a month ago and now can't even be restocked from the reports people have been reporting..

[Shadow Ninja]

i smell PH forum letter coming, bom chicka

We all gave her a little extra for her time too.. Really great friend she had to hit 6 stores for us....

[Dealer Destro]

LOL...I'd liek a new NSX while were at it...

Those things are over priced pieces of shit. Honda came out with this revolutionary aerodynamic car body and didn't do jack shit with it.

[atomatron]

Seems like the Dollar General figures might have been a one time thing.. They showed up a little over a month ago and now can't even be restocked from the reports people have been reporting..

thanks for that report, ill report back as well if i something to report regarding this report

[CrimsonGuard101]

Those things are over prices pieces of shit. Honda came out with this revolutionary aerodynamic car body and didn't do jack shit with it.

Still want one :(

[atomatron]

We all gave her a little extra for her time too.. Really great friend she had to hit 6 stores for us....

:) too perfect! great to hear!

[Raw Dog]

I say bite the bullet now. Club exclusives seem to appreciate in value as time passes. Don't get left out in the cold!

[Dealer Destro]

Still want one :(

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CGAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fautos.yahoo.com%2Facura%2F3-2-cl%2F2003%2Ftype-s-6-speed-mt%2F&ei=gMfgT9mQE4Pu2gWX_d2xCw&usg=AFQjCNE1EG-Tf_N6a98J5N9t-SOtOUQD-A&sig2=SWZcyIXW2-E7-6xNYD6ONA


Damn near same engine but way cheaper.

You wouldn't happen to be in the market for a Carbon Bronze Pearl 2008 TL Type S in a 6 speed manual would you? Still much cheaper. Only looking to get 28k..... :D and has a slightly bigger motor than the NSX.

[Shadow Ninja]

been watching this too. granted for the opposite reason.

my hope is, and with the way its trending, it shouldnt be an problem...that by selling off the figs from both sets individually, making enuff to keep the ones i do want, free and clear, and....have enuff left to completely pay for the FSS.

then sell at least half of them away to repay for the FSS.

yep.........what a great investment this has been.

I think this is part of all our general plan.. Wait till the attendee exclusives are announced and if there is some great stuff there people are really going to hit the roof.. We go trough this every year people upset they can't get it for cost...

[atomatron]

I say bite the bullet now. Club exclusives seem to appreciate in value as time passes. Don't get left out in the cold!

one OG at a time like i did with MB

the IG troopers (all of them) are utter ****

Voltar maybe as time passes i'll warm up and grab one, i have no context for him...

[troublemagnet]

I hear a lot of comments about ebay prices on these, so I'd like to put some perspective on it. This is meant to be positive, by the way.

My attending set cost me 345. I also paid airfare and rental car, plus the hotel for 4 nights. That's about 900 more. I also have to feed myself, say 200 there for 4 days. So, I'm spending about 1500 for the con, before any convention exclusives.

I'm not making SDCC, but I'd love to get that Shockwave HISS. I'm willing to pay 3-4 times its "retail cost", because I'm not spending all the extra money I would need to to go.

To answer, I can see them around 4-500. That's a bargain when you factor in all the costs you're not incurring by not going.
Why the hell do you expect someone to chip in for your lodging and meals? It's not my fault you live so far away. You'd be going to the con anyways, even with out the exclusives correct? Why should I pay for your fancy foo-foo "lodging" and rental car? Drive your own car, bring four days worth of ramen noodles and poptarts and sleep in your car. You can even drive to the outskirts of town and sleep in one of the many abandoned homes there.Why should a person pay you for the FOUR freaking days? Why should a person pay for all those seminars that you'll be going to? How does that affect the price of a crappy Voltar and Horrorshow?

[Shadow Ninja]

:) too perfect! great to hear!

She's a peach!

[Dealer Destro]

How does that affect the price of a crappy Voltar and Horrorshow?

Bottom line is it doesn't. What effects the price of these two are the laws of supply and demand. That's it. Now charging extra than what you paid to make up for some of the costs incurred by said trip. Perfectly acceptable.

[Shadow Ninja]

Bottom line is it doesn't. What effects the price of these two are the laws of supply and demand. That's it. Now charging extra than what you paid to make up for some of the costs incurred by said trip. Perfectly acceptable.

What I don't understand is everyone knows that Joecon comes around this year so you can save an entire year purchase a plane ticket buy a box set and a bag set and sell one or the other as well as exclusives and make back money paying for your trip which in the end only requires you taking the time to go... At least I think it's that easy..

[Zarana]

43,263 Yen

[Loose Cannon]

650+ easily. The scalpers are going to have a field day with these...they sold out in 2 hours lol...also you can tell from those who have already posted here about thier plans to pay for thier $2000+ trip to bank on them off what they will be expecting price set wise.

Your best bet is to pay through the nose or find someone on here that will help you with a bagged set. I expect $1000 pretty quickly after the innital unsure price sets of $500-$700 the couple days after the con.

I think this pretty much nails it. Bagged sets are going for $650! This may surpass all others in price. One for the lack of numbers. 600 sets versus the good old days of 1500-2000 sets. Plus they sold out in less than 3 hours.? Use to be weeks with some left over.

No this move is what has turned me off to the club. Sure they want to increase the value of these sets as they say but to me this is just another Dick move on their part. I could never go to a convention no matter how much fun it could be. I have better things to do. They claim this is what the club members want? Really? Sounds like more lies. Maybe two diehard convention goers want less higher priced sets so they can gouge, not only the non- members, but other club members who are not toy sellers by trade. What are they trying to do? Make money right? More sets means more money.

[Shadow Ninja]

Another point everyone misses is they have to pay HASBRO for the rights to use the molds and does everyone think that Hasbro just charges them a small fee.... Ya right their a fortune 500 company and they want their money for their licensed brand!! Nothing is free in this world everyone pays!!

[troublemagnet]

Bottom line is it doesn't. What effects the price of these two are the laws of supply and demand. That's it. Now charging extra than what you paid to make up for some of the costs incurred by said trip. Perfectly acceptable.
It's not "wrong", I agree. I just don't understand the thought process.You have to eat regardless,probably at a restaurant, a meal you probably enjoyed. Passing it on to the consumer just sounds tawdry and cheap. Like I said in the earlier post, bring some ramen noodles, poptarts,canned items or shoot a squirrel for all I care. Why should a person add that to the cost of the convention set? What if said person lived two miles away from NOLA and still charged the same as everyone else?

[CrimsonGuard101]

Another point everyone misses is they have to pay HASBRO for the rights to use the molds and does everyone think that Hasbro just charges them a small fee.... Ya right their a fortune 500 company and they want their money for their licensed brand!! Nothing is free in this world everyone pays!!

Why Hasbro needs to run this club direclty and get rid of the middle man...we are thier collectors...they are the suppliers...why do we need a money laundering middle man to interfere with that symbiosis! lol

[Shadow Ninja]

It's not "wrong", I agree. I just don't understand the thought process.You have to eat regardless,probably at a restaurant, a meal you probably enjoyed. Passing it on to the consumer just sounds tawdry and cheap. Like I said in the earlier post, bring some ramen noodles, poptarts,canned items or shoot a squirrel for all I care. Why should a person add that to the cost of the convention set? What if said person lived two miles away from NOLA and still charged the same as everyone else?

All that shit is detrimental to your health if you want to eat that garbage that is your buisness.. Ramen noodles are the worst thing for you! Too much sodium and the shit screws up your stomach and intestines!! Pop-Tarts too....good grief..

[Dealer Destro]

It's not "wrong", I agree. I just don't understand the thought process.You have to eat regardless,probably at a restaurant, a meal you probably enjoyed. Passing it on to the consumer just sounds tawdry and cheap. Like I said in the earlier post, bring some ramen noodles, poptarts,canned items or shoot a squirrel for all I care. Why should a person add that to the cost of the convention set? What if said person lived two miles away from NOLA and still charged the same as everyone else?

Then that is their prerogative just the same as whether or not you choose to buy a set at that price. Prerogative. At the end of the day it is a rare item that has been produced in extremely limited quantities. If the total cost to attend JOECON was $1000 and the set was another $400 on top of that, then you can say that the set cost you personally upwards of $1400. Because getting there to purchase said item is part of the cost. So if it cost me $1400 to attain said set and I wanted to sell it, then yes, part of the cost gets passed on to the customer. It's the same for anyone who conducts any kind of business.

[Shadow Ninja]

Why Hasbro needs to run this club direclty and get rid of the middle man...we are thier collectors...they are the suppliers...why do we need a money laundering middle man to interfere with that symbiosis! lol

and you don't think Hasbro would charge the same for a short run of 600 sets?? hey would never mass produce these! They already said they would never do the OG that is why the club is doing them..

[Zarana]

Why Hasbro needs to run this club direclty and get rid of the middle man...we are thier collectors...they are the suppliers...why do we need a money laundering middle man to interfere with that symbiosis! lol

Hasbro needs to bring the same amount of care and customer satisfaction that is provided every year with the SDCC figures.

[Shadow Ninja]

Then that is their prerogative just the same as whether or not you choose to buy a set at that price. Prerogative. At the end of the day it is a rare item that has been produced in extremely limited quantities. If the total cost to attend JOECON was $1000 and the set was another $400 on top of that, then you can say that the set cost you personally upwards of $1400. Because getting there to purchase said item is part of the cost. So if it cost me $1400 to attain said set and I wanted to sell it, then yes, part of the cost gets passed on to the customer. It's the same for anyone who conducts any kind of business.

Perfectly said!! The cost of figures go up in the store due to increase in cost of production and oil and other expenses... I guess we should all give our extra sets away for free just to help people obtain them.. I guess everyone next year will have to F5 all day long to get the non-attendee set...

[CrimsonGuard101]

Hasbro needs to bring the same amount of care and customer satisfaction that is provided every year with the SDCC figures.

I dont blame Hasbro I blame HTS for those shortfalls :0 its time for Hasbro to behead the 2 headed beast that encompases HTS.com and Funpub. But then 2 more heads will grow in its place...oh what the hell HAIL HYDRA!

[07GT500 COBRA]

I just may be better off holding on to my extra sets until this time next year instead of looking for trades at the con. That way I can go to next years con as well!

[Tucker]

It's not "wrong", I agree. I just don't understand the thought process.You have to eat regardless,probably at a restaurant, a meal you probably enjoyed. Passing it on to the consumer just sounds tawdry and cheap. Like I said in the earlier post, bring some ramen noodles, poptarts,canned items or shoot a squirrel for all I care. Why should a person add that to the cost of the convention set? What if said person lived two miles away from NOLA and still charged the same as everyone else?

There are two ways to obtain these from their original sellers, Homefront Hero or American Hero packages. In order for me to obtain them from an American Hero package, I have to attend the convention. You say you can't understand why I would charge extra, do you need us to draw you a picture?

Let's put it this way; if you order a pizza, you can pick it up yourself or you can have them deliver it to you. Many places charge a delivery fee. It's the same principle.

Still not convinced? How 'bout this: If you buy a bag of freeze-dried shit from a rare monkey on eBay, the seller, while deranged for selling something like that, is probably going to charge you for shipping. That fee includes the packing materials, actual shipping from the shipping agent, and, wait for it... a "HANDLING FEE." This handling fee will cover his time, his effort, possibly the respirator he had to wear while boxing up the monkey shit, and all kinds of neat stuff like that.

I'm not going to apologize for my sarcasm because I'm actually insulted by what you appear to be saying. You appear to be saying that my time and effort, and that of any other member who is going to JoeCon to get a set and sell it, is worth nothing. If someone wanted the set that badly, they should've made arrangements to go to the Con. If they were unable to do so, that's not my problem. Why is it that I should have to go and pay the extra (by that I mean food, airfare, hotel, etc.) to get it and feel that it's unfair to ask for help in paying the fees that it took to get there? Again: Handling. Fee.

On top of that, if I lived right next door to the convention location, I'd be stupid not to sell it for the same as everyone else does. If someone is selling it for $1000 because they feel that that's what it cost them to get there, why would I sell it for $400 just because I didn't spend as much as others had to?

You made your point, now I've made mine. If you still don't understand why it works this way, then we can just agree to disagree.

[mike000]

My question is, where do you think the price will stabilize? Should I bite the bullet before the price goes even higher or will a deluge of these hitting eBay once the con begins drag the price down again? Just asking for opinions here. I know it's an extremely popular set, but will the increased supply help?

All I know is that I need this set, but I don't want to pay a ridiculous price if I dont have to...

I asked a similar question last year about Thunder & Lightning. The day after the con they were listed for maybe more then double the paid price at the con. I lost out. I decided to wait and now it is almost impossible to find them individually for under $100.

The production runs on Club items has shrunk, demand has grown, every year waiting to see what happens is becoming a more expensive option I think.

[Shadow Ninja]

I asked a similar question last year about Thunder & Lightning. The day after the con they were listed for maybe more then double the paid price at the con. I lost out. I decided to wait and now it is almost impossible to find them individually for under $100.

The production runs on Club items has shrunk, demand has grown, every year waiting to see what happens is becoming a more expensive option I think.

Production shrunk because they were getting stuck with extra sets.. Up till a few months ago you could still get the Crimson set from
'09" plus there is O-ring sets still available.. Sucks you missed out on those last year it's always good to buy right away.. I waited on the Moccasin and it sot me over $150 plus shipping..

[RolandofGilead]

If you're adding up all the costs of the convention, the hotel accomodations, and food so that you can say the convention set cost you $1,400, then you're going to the convention for the wrong reasons. You aren't paying $1,400 for a set of 15 action figures. You're taking a trip, most likely a vacation, enjoying a hotel and eating out instead of at home. You're going to the con, to presentations, to great activities, and on top of that you have the opportunity to buy some really neat exclusive souveniers. Don't pretend it's all for a friggin' box of toys and don't think you get to add each and every one of your vacation expenses to the cost.

Well let me rephrase that. You are more than welcome to offer up your boxed set for $1,400.00. Good luck selling it at that price. People who cannot go to the convention are more than willing to pay for extras plus something for your troubles, but by no means should they be expected to pay for your vacation.

[kneroh]

There are two ways to obtain these from their original sellers, Homefront Hero or American Hero packages. In order for me to obtain them from an American Hero package, I have to attend the convention. You say you can't understand why I would charge extra, do you need us to draw you a picture?

Let's put it this way; if you order a pizza, you can pick it up yourself or you can have them deliver it to you. Many places charge a delivery fee. It's the same principle.

Still not convinced? How 'bout this: If you buy a bag of freeze-dried shit from a rare monkey on eBay, the seller, while deranged for selling something like that, is probably going to charge you for shipping. That fee includes the packing materials, actual shipping from the shipping agent, and, wait for it... a "HANDLING FEE." This handling fee will cover his time, his effort, possibly the respirator he had to wear while boxing up the monkey shit, and all kinds of neat stuff like that.

I'm not going to apologize for my sarcasm because I'm actually insulted by what you appear to be saying. You appear to be saying that my time and effort, and that of any other member who is going to JoeCon to get a set and sell it, is worth nothing. If someone wanted the set that badly, they should've made arrangements to go to the Con. If they were unable to do so, that's not my problem. Why is it that I should have to go and pay the extra (by that I mean food, airfare, hotel, etc.) to get it and feel that it's unfair to ask for help in paying the fees that it took to get there? Again: Handling. Fee.

On top of that, if I lived right next door to the convention location, I'd be stupid not to sell it for the same as everyone else does. If someone is selling it for $1000 because they feel that that's what it cost them to get there, why would I sell it for $400 just because I didn't spend as much as others had to?

You made your point, now I've made mine. If you still don't understand why it works this way, then we can just agree to disagree.

Can you link me to the monkey shit auction? If it's cheap enough maybe I'll just eat that at con so I can pass the savings onto to to any item I happen to sell. I'd hate to survive on anything fancier than human grade rations so some cheap ass who is too lazy or socially awkward to attend can still get his set at cost. That's fair. Much like how I ship all of the items I sell on ebay in grocery bags filled with rain water as packing material. I hope the buck less I charge is worth it.

[Dealer Destro]

Well let me rephrase that. You are more than welcome to offer up your boxed set for $1,400.00. Good luck selling it at that price.


It all boils down to prerogative. That's it. You can list your set for $2500 for all I care. It's like you said, good luck with the sale.


I am only speaking for myself, but when I do get around to attending CON it will be to meet some of the peeps I have developed friendships with on here. Namely Flint and some of the other MERCS.

The box would be a big part of me attending as well. I wouldn't sell my set either so that negates from having to justify my $25,0000 listing price. lol.

[Dealer Destro]

Can you link me to the monkey shit auction? If it's cheap enough maybe I'll just eat that at con so I can pass the savings onto to to any item I happen to sell. I'd hate to survive on anything fancier than human grade rations so some cheap ass who is too lazy or socially awkward to attend can still get his set at cost. That's fair. Much like how I ship all of the items I sell on ebay in grocery bags filled with rain water as packing material. I hope the buck less I charge is worth it.

I almost asked for a link to the shit auction too. Haha!

[CrimsonGuard101]

If you're adding up all the costs of the convention, the hotel accomodations, and food so that you can say the convention set cost you $1,400, then you're going to the convention for the wrong reasons. You aren't paying $1,400 for a set of 15 action figures. You're taking a trip, most likely a vacation, enjoying a hotel and eating out instead of at home. You're going to the con, to presentations, to great activities, and on top of that you have the opportunity to buy some really neat exclusive souveniers. Don't pretend it's all for a friggin' box of toys and don't think you get to add each and every one of your vacation expenses to the cost.

Well let me rephrase that. You are more than welcome to offer up your boxed set for $1,400.00. Good luck selling it at that price.

Unfortuatnley its a sellers market with these...they will most likley go that high...the demand is way to high and the availability is way to low.

[Tucker]

Can you link me to the monkey shit auction? If it's cheap enough maybe I'll just eat that at con so I can pass the savings onto to to any item I happen to sell. I'd hate to survive on anything fancier than human grade rations so some cheap ass who is too lazy or socially awkward to attend can still get his set at cost. That's fair. Much like how I ship all of the items I sell on ebay in grocery bags filled with rain water as packing material. I hope the buck less I charge is worth it.

Will you marry me?

I almost asked for a link to the shit auction too. Haha!

You guys can both back off because I already bought it. It's good on pita chips, kinda like caviar, just a lot more obnoxious. I'll bring it with me to JoeCon and we can all share it.

[kneroh]

Will you marry me?

We'll have to wait until con is held in the right state. Cross you fingers for Joecon Des Moines!

[Ford]

Save your money, wait for a caster to get his hands on the figures, then pay a fraction of that cost for what will probably be better looking customs. And if you do them yourself they'll be one of a kind.

[07GT500 COBRA]

If the back and forth banter at the con is half as good as this, Joe Con is going to be a blast!

[Loose Cannon]

Still this is the clubs wrong doing. It sounds great to go to the convention and basically get a free ride by selling these sets, but what about all other club members? A majority of us do not go to any conventions and will probably never go. I still have always like what the club has put out. And yet this year has just been a big screw you! From the club. I've been a member for years. I save up knowing I will want the convention set almost every year. I mean if the convention attendtee is all they care about why not sell the sets at half price to those who attend? The licensing crap is all built into the $345 price tag not the $650 after market price gouge.

This will forever leave a bad taste in my mouth. And Im' still trying to wash out my $1400 Footloose. I guess I'm just being a sore loser since I missed the 2 hour window. I guess no one knew how popular this set would be. Why couldn't be something lame like Eco warriors or something I don't like such as Star Brigade?

[CrimsonGuard101]

Still this is the clubs wrong doing. It sounds great to go to the convention and basically get a free ride by selling these sets, but what about all other club members? A majority of us do not go to any conventions and will probably never go. I still have always like what the club has put out. And yet this year has just been a big Fuck you! From the club. I've been a member for years. I save up knowing I will want the convention set almost every year. I mean if the convention attendtee is all they care about why not sell the sets at half price to those who attend? The licensing crap is all built into the $345 price tag not the $650 after market price gouge.

This will forever leave a bad taste in my mouth. And Im' still trying to wash out my $1400 Footloose. I guess I'm just being a sore loser since I missed the 2 hour window. I guess no one knew how popular this set would be. Why couldn't be something lame like Eco warriors or something I don't like such as Star Brigade?

Its becoming like SDCC. peeps only got to make the money on the exclusives, not to enjoy the whole of the convention as it was designed. Too much money to be made easily now off those that cant go.

[Loose Cannon]

Its becoming like SDCC. peeps only got to make the money on the exclusives, not to enjoy the whole of the convention as it was designed. Too much money to be made easily now off those that cant go.

It certainly seems that way. I mean is that the purpose of the convention? To make money? I have no intention of spending a vacation to go to the convention. But if it were down the road I 'd definitely go. It use to sound like fun. Now it sounds like a combo of black market meets micro economics. Maybe its just this years convention that's a little off.

[Dealer Destro]

It certainly seems that way. I mean is that the purpose of the convention? To make money? I have no intention of spending a vacation to go to the convention. But if it were down the road I 'd definitely go. It use to sound like fun. Now it sounds like a combo of black market meets micro economics. Maybe its just this years convention that's a little off.

No, it's not just this year's. It's been getting worse with each passing year. And THEY say JOE is not popular...... Bahahahaha! Funny how the numbers just don't add up eh?

[CrimsonGuard101]

It certainly seems that way. I mean is that the purpose of the convention? To make money? I have no intention of spending a vacation to go to the convention. But if it were down the road I 'd definitely go. It use to sound like fun. Now it sounds like a combo of black market meets micro economics. Maybe its just this years convention that's a little off.

Yeah it could be the OG set along withe movie toy delaying the toys. Got peeps in a frenzy for joe product...I love the OG and i think they did a killer job on this set...just unfortuante its so gd limited for the sake of making huge money :(.

[kneroh]

I've never met one person at any of the joecon conventions I've attended that said they were only there to make money.

[dpstro]

I don't plan on buying any of the figures so far. I would have to get a good look at them. Honestly people can resell them at whatever they want. Although you would hope if it's going from tanker to tanker then it would be fair and reasonable.

If the price is too high just don't buy it. I treat it just like ebay. Some people will ask for the stars with a buy it now but that doesn't mean thats what they will get.

[Zarana]

All profit is scalping.

From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs.

[CrimsonGuard101]

All profit is scalping.

From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs.

That is no way true. a decent profit can be made as long as a supply is provided for a long duration with consistent demand. How do you think sam walton built walmarts over mom and pop stores? He could provide more product and lower price points due to bulk buying and blew the higher priced peeps outta the water selling the same products along with supplying the demand and driving shoppers into his stores with lower prices. You can't tell me walmart does not push profits. More product more consistent customers more consistent sales = long term revs and profits,.Making a quick buck on overly inflated prices x3 x4 x5 the base value of highly limited toys (or other items such as event tickets) = scalping and gouging because the intent is to buy up the only available supply and corner the market for the intent on making a huge profit. That's how the oil business rolls kids...you don't wanna be on that side of the fence in this economy..from a customer freindly perspective..

[poddie]

All profit is scalping.

This is one of the most ridiculous statements ever.

Look, how much it does or does not cost to go to the con is completely irrelevant, other than the possible impact it has on what people are willing to pay.

If someone sells something for less than "market value" (and currently the best way to determine that is what things actually sell for on eBay), they are giving you value for free. If they want to out of the kindness of their own heart, or because there is some other pressure on them that causes them to accept the lower price, that's fine. But this attitude that people should just give you something they own for far less than it is actually worth is just immature.

Granted, some of the tactics that are employed by some people that sell these types of things later for profit are not what I would call ethical. But if someone waits their turn, buys within the limits set by the club, and doesn't push people out of the way to do it they own that product. For them to sell it at a huge discount for no reason would be pretty stupid.

People need to learn that eBay transactions are business. I don't offer $100k to someone selling their home for $500k (because that is the current value) and expect them to accept. Even if they only paid $50k for it originally, that has absolutely no bearing on what they should sell for.

This is simple fact. No one owes you a deal better than that. This is how the adult world works.

That said, I do believe the club is making silly decisions on quantity based on old data from o ring sets that is no longer applicable. And I wish to God that Hasbro wouldn't let them make a set like this with all these unique characters. A set of repaints like Mission Brazil is one thing... I can live without that. But these exclusives on OG, Dial Tone, and Footloose are simply wrong in my opinion. I hope in the future they will do things like Tiger Force, etc, and stay away from other unreleased ME characters.

(BTW, I have purchased one boxed set from the club, and one boxed set off eBay for $500... I plan to maybe sell a few of the IGs which I'm not crazy about. When/if I do, it will be auctions that start at $1 on eBay... let the market decide what it is worth. That is the fairest way possible.)

[CrimsonGuard101]

This is one of the most ridiculous statements ever.

Look, how much it does or does not cost to go to the con is completely irrelevant, other than the possible impact it has on what people are willing to pay.

If someone sells something for less than "market value" (and currently the best way to determine that is what things actually sell for on eBay), they are giving you value for free. If they want to out of the kindness of their own heart, or because there is some other pressure on them that causes them to accept the lower price, that's fine. But this attitude that people should just give you something they own for far less than it is actually worth is just immature.

Granted, some of the tactics that are employed by some people that sell these types of things later for profit are not what I would call ethical. But if someone waits their turn, buys within the limits set by the club, and doesn't push people out of the way to do it they own that product. For them to sell it at a huge discount for no reason would be pretty stupid.

People need to learn that eBay transactions are business. I don't offer $100k to someone selling their home for $500k (because that is the current value) and expect them to accept. Even if they only paid $50k for it originally, that has absolutely no bearing on what they should sell for.

This is simple fact. No one owes you a deal better than that. This is how the adult world works.

That said, I do believe the club is making silly decisions on quantity based on old data from o ring sets that is no longer applicable. And I wish to God that Hasbro wouldn't let them make a set like this with all these unique characters. A set of repaints like Mission Brazil is one thing... I can live without that. But these exclusives on OG, Dial Tone, and Footloose are simply wrong in my opinion. I hope in the future they will do things like Tiger Force, etc, and stay away from other unreleased ME characters.

(BTW, I have purchased one boxed set from the club, and one boxed set off eBay for $500... I plan to maybe sell a few of the IGs which I'm not crazy about. When/if I do, it will be auctions that start at $1 on eBay... let the market decide what it is worth. That is the fairest way possible.)

I wish more peeps were like you poddie! lol..well said...

[kneroh]

I can't wait until the day sarcasm hits the internet.

[Dealer Destro]

All profit is scalping.

From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs.

You are joking right?

[Dealer Destro]

... let the market decide what it is worth. That is the fairest way possible.)

That....... pretty much sums it up right there. And if it's unethical to sell a rare item at anything above retail, then label me and my buyers, guilty as charged.

[Lody]

I am hoping the bagged sets hit 600 and the box 1000 out of the gate. That wi cover 2/3 of my trip with Mrs. Lody

[CrimsonGuard101]

That....... pretty much sums it up right there. And if it's unethical to sell a rare item at anything above retail, then label me and my buyers, guilty as charged.

Allowing the market and buyers to set the price over retail is ethical...forcing a price on the buyers because of self preceievd value is not ethical in my book. Once the high ballers set it way up there...everyone else thinks it has to be that high before they are even sold...thats wrong.

[Dealer Destro]

All that shit is detrimental to your health if you want to eat that garbage that is your buisness.. Ramen noodles are the worst thing for you! Too much sodium and the shit screws up your stomach and intestines!! Pop-Tarts too....good grief..

QFT bro.

[Dealer Destro]

Allowing the market and buyers to set the price over retail is ethical...forcing a price on the buyers because of self preceievd value is not ethical in my book. Once the high ballers set it way up there...everyone else thinks it has to be that high before they are even sold...thats wrong.

When I engage in said practices, my buyers are the perpetrators. They set the price.

[Lody]

Allowing the market and buyers to set the price over retail is ethical...forcing a price on the buyers because of self preceievd value is not ethical in my book. Once the high ballers set it way up there...everyone else thinks it has to be that high before they are even sold...thats wrong.

I laugh my ass off when I see posts like this.

Ethics
Fairness
Toys

None of them belong in the same sentence.

They aren't essentials in life so you can charge whatever you want for them. If they don't sell at your asking price...you lower.

Someone whining that they can't afford it at price $________ doesn't dictate the price

[CrimsonGuard101]

I laugh my ass off when I see posts like this.

Ethics
Fairness
Toys

None of them belong in the same sentence.

They aren't essentials in life so you can charge whatever you want for them. If they don't sell at your asking price...you lower.

Someone whining that they can't afford it at price $________ doesn't dictate the price

Everytime a scalper acts like this I laugh my ass off...dont you have a scalper thread to run about ross exclusives? A known scalper whining about people asking for fair prices is always is a good read :)

[spiderpumpkin]

delete

[Venomfang]

Customs, imo.

Or see if a really talented customizer can commission some OGs for you.

That people will pay astronomical prices for little plastic men is beyond my comprehension.

[CobraOfficer999]

Probably $800.

[sparks007]

same concept, different thread,
"eff you all for charging us more than retail when we cant find DGs, damn scalpers"

not a response to you Shadow, just a general observation

yo joe!

Ahh the irony .....

[atomsmasher]

700-800 is the price range. Last Years con set is there and so is the Red Viper one. I don't mind those prices they are just to rich to my blood. You need to factor in that one these aren't regular joe products. Exclusives not made for mass retail unlike the Ross Cancelled Joes or the Dollar General Joes. Instantly the price point is 300+ dollars for the con set. Than you factor in Gas, Time, Effort, The Rarity of only 600 sets being produced and the price lands in 700-800. That and the fact these guys aren't Bill Gates. They work a regular job and save up money for the con and use the exclusives to make back money they spent on the trip.

I don't view someone who sells Lowlight for 30 and a person who sells a con set for 800 as the same being. That being said most of the con stuff is to much for my blood. Though I get mad that I didn't get the SDCC exclusives and internet prices are often more than I can stomach paying for a 3 3/4 toy. It's just the hobby sometimes you win others you don't. That being said the only con item I have is the red Shadow staff car and I love it.

[RolandofGilead]

Speaking of which, I can't wait to see what vehicles we have in store this year.

[dorian247]

Yeah I also want a OG set not even the Iron Grenadiers and Ive offered to get anything from SDCC for any tankers that wanted to trade for SDCC stuff but no takers.

I know the SDCC stuff is rare but not Joe Con rare... so I guess I just have to hope cause I cant justify $300-400 for 6 or 7 figures I want.

[sithewok]

Thanks for the opinions. I was kind of thinking 800 for the boxed set would be about where it ended up.

And to set the story straight, I wasn't complaining about the high prices, just trying to see what people thought a fair value was. With the limited nature of these, I expect pretty high prices. Would I rather have been able to order a homefront heroes package or had someone hook me up close to cost? Of course, but for the Guard, I am willing to pay far too much for little plastic men...

[Lody]

Yeah I also want a OG set not even the Iron Grenadiers and Ive offered to get anything from SDCC for any tankers that wanted to trade for SDCC stuff but no takers.

I know the SDCC stuff is rare but not Joe Con rare... so I guess I just have to hope cause I cant justify $300-400 for 6 or 7 figures I want.

Contact me....I am sure we can make a deal.

[Lody]

Everytime a scalper acts like this I laugh my ass off...dont you have a scalper thread to run about ross exclusives? A known scalper whining about people asking for fair prices is always is a good read :)

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[CrimsonGuard101]

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[Zarana]

In mother Russia.