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starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 12:50 PM
I am uncertain about the rarity of this toy, and need info.

It is an G.I. Joe Extreme Thunderin Fury tank. It is my understanding that it was not produced.

http://www.voypro.com/images/proto/123.jpg

Can anyone give me any information about it?


on yojoe.com they note it as a unproduced set:
YOJOE.COM | G.I.Joe Extreme Figures and Vehicles (http://www.yojoe.com/action/other/extreme/unproduced/)

I discovered it in a collection that contained many prototypes and other rare production items.

Tankster
06-18-2012, 01:16 PM
i would let the webmaster at Yojoe.com know you have this then maybe you can determine how rare it actually is they list it as unproduced so its probably uber rare

Raw Dog
06-18-2012, 01:30 PM
Oh man, I'd love to get my hands on that! Congratulations, bro! That is one heck of a sweet-azz score.

Lody
06-18-2012, 01:30 PM
How, where and from whom did you acquire it and what else was included? An unproduced GI Joe Extreme figure (was a female) that was carded was sold a few years back for I think $1,800.

Lantern_Lad
06-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Quick, contact Gyre!

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 01:41 PM
So far my research is indicating it is of the Holy Grail nature. The best part is that it is the box is in incredible shape see my photos

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This is my thread is my first posting to the intrenet about it. Feel free to spread the news to any other JOE website or Twitter it, you'll be the first one talking about it.

MJjoe4life
06-18-2012, 02:10 PM
That is really cool. I would like to own that! Nice score!!!

tkprime
06-18-2012, 02:23 PM
It's pretty rare, I had heard that there were a few cases sent out to places like kb toys years ago, but this is the first confirmed pic of one. I do know certain parts were used for the small soldiers tank, much the same way they re purposed the ice base for batman. There's a few figures like mayday who were found on foreign cards. If I were you I'd get it A.F.A. Graded.

nighthawk
06-18-2012, 02:29 PM
Damn...I wish yours wasn't mint in box so you can be tempted to open it.

dansjoes.com
06-18-2012, 02:45 PM
I picked this up many,many years ago....don't know anyone else who has one..congrats. Mine is the one on yojoe.com.

ndb
06-18-2012, 02:50 PM
Very cool. The tank was used in the tv show quite frequently so its a shame that they didn't produce it. The most memorable scene was the beginning of an episode with a live action sequence that had freight lift the front of the tank just to prove he could. It was cheesy.

A great find!

CobraOfficer999
06-18-2012, 02:52 PM
Excellent find.

rugrat
06-18-2012, 02:52 PM
Hmmmmmmm, I think I'm gunna try and make one..... A wolverine for the base , mauler turret, and some smaller turret up top!!!! Maybe!!!! Tanks for sharing!!!!!

redx24
06-18-2012, 02:53 PM
art remind me of the VvV Patriot grizzly

Raw Dog
06-18-2012, 02:53 PM
I am so jealous. I lurked dansjoes' on Yo Joe not to long ago and wished to stumble upon one afterwards. You are one lucky dude for having one.

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 03:57 PM
I picked this up many,many years ago....don't know anyone else who has one..congrats. Mine is the one on yojoe.com.

Dan, I saw yours and I actually emailed you about it. Was your box sealed?

Black Llama
06-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Not my favorite era of Joe... but damn that box is nice looking :D

Raw Dog
06-18-2012, 04:14 PM
Yeah, Extreme isn't my favorite either, but I find myself wanting a set anyway. That tank would be the perfect addition to that set, lol!

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 04:56 PM
This is a Kenner Standard box set of the
GI Joe Extreme Spitfire Battering platform

It has some great production information on the back, of the Kenner Standard card.

A “Kenner Standard - Green Tag” quality sample

Kenner GREEN TAG / GREEN CARD SAMPLE is one of the last stages of a toy lines production these are the last sign-offs once the product is reviewed & before the item is give the okay to be mass production. This A VERY RARE item. There are several stages of toy production… conception, design and then production. For example, during the design process of a toy several stages of prototypes can be produced ultimately culminating into a final piece that everyone involved with the project approves of and signs off on. In the case of a toy with a “Kenner Standard” label affixed it is the packaging that is being generally being approved. However, there are plenty times where notations are made that changes need to be made to the toy itself, yet the packaging is approved. It is essentially the prototype of a package toy. Which contain the earliest examples of that particular toys.

nighthawk
06-18-2012, 04:59 PM
I had a Street Fighter Movie Ryu that had the green tag as well. Because of that, I was never able to bring myself to opening it.

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 04:59 PM
This is a Kenner Standard box set of the GI Joe Extreme Sand Striker

It has some great production information on the back, of the Kenner Standard card.

A “Kenner Standard - Green Tag” quality sample

Kenner GREEN TAG / GREEN CARD SAMPLE is one of the last stages of a toy lines production these are the last sign-offs once the product is reviewed & before the item is give the okay to be mass production. This A VERY RARE item. There are several stages of toy production… conception, design and then production. For example, during the design process of a toy several stages of prototypes can be produced ultimately culminating into a final piece that everyone involved with the project approves of and signs off on. In the case of a toy with a “Kenner Standard” label affixed it is the packaging that is being generally being approved. However, there are plenty times where notations are made that changes need to be made to the toy itself, yet the packaging is approved. It is essentially the prototype of a package toy. Which contain the earliest examples of that particular toys.

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 05:03 PM
I realize i posted this in the wrong thread area...I am a newbie on this forum... Could a moderator move it to the correct topic area?

Stoner
06-18-2012, 05:07 PM
Wait a minute you are NOT Gyre-Viper.....How did u get this?? Are you trying to usurp his power? Are you Reverse Gyre-Viper? An evil clone?

starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 05:11 PM
It's pretty rare, I had heard that there were a few cases sent out to places like kb toys years ago, but this is the first confirmed pic of one. I do know certain parts were used for the small soldiers tank, much the same way they re purposed the ice base for batman. There's a few figures like mayday who were found on foreign cards. If I were you I'd get it A.F.A. Graded.
This was gotten from the collection of a former kenner/hasbro design engineer. This one was not from any retail store.

dansjoes.com
06-18-2012, 05:11 PM
Dan, I saw yours and I actually emailed you about it. Was your box sealed?


Sorry..never saw your email...I believe my box is opened....

nighthawk
06-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Sorry..never saw your email...I believe my box is opened....

Have you ever posted pics of the contents in that case?

dansjoes.com
06-18-2012, 05:14 PM
No....I never removed them.....let me check this weekend and ill see condition

cobracobra
06-18-2012, 05:32 PM
Really sweet guys. Would love to see it opened though. Something about box art pictures isn't enough for me! Congrats on the rare piece!

Goofateer
06-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Great find. Certainly something I've been watching for since ohhhh . . . 1995.

There are few things to consider here.

First off, Un-released, and Un-produced are 2 totally different things. To the best of my knowledge (and lot of other people I know) the Thunderin' Fury was never released.

Also a lot of us "old-timers," myself included, were actively collecting G.I. Joe Extreme back then. AND, I know it's a shock to a lot you, but the Internet did already exist by that time. I never heard a word of anyone saying they actually found a Fury at retail.

Toy Fair, and other pre-production stages of the Fury were fairly well documented in the toy magazines of the time, but not one of them, and I did read ALL of them, ever reported on the release of the toy. Though it is photographed in the Tomarts Guide to Action figures. I can't recall if they actually included a price or if it just listed it as N/A or something. But I believe the book was actually published about the time Extreme was hitting the shelves, so it was a bit premature to include the toy in the book. How could they have known at the time that it wouldn't see the light of day.

Roger

GI abe444
06-18-2012, 07:31 PM
Nice score!

cobralegion
06-18-2012, 08:09 PM
Great find. Certainly something I've been watching for since ohhhh . . . 1995.

There are few things to consider here.

First off, Un-released, and Un-produced are 2 totally different things. To the best of my knowledge (and lot of other people I know) the Thunderin' Fury was never released.

Also a lot of us "old-timers," myself included, were actively collecting G.I. Joe Extreme back then. AND, I know it's a shock to a lot you, but the Internet did already exist by that time. I never heard a word of anyone saying they actually found a Fury at retail.

Toy Fair, and other pre-production stages of the Fury were fairly well documented in the toy magazines of the time, but not one of them, and I did read ALL of them, ever reported on the release of the toy. Though it is photographed in the Tomarts Guide to Action figures. I can't recall if they actually included a price or if it just listed it as N/A or something. But I believe the book was actually published about the time Extreme was hitting the shelves, so it was a bit premature to include the toy in the book. How could they have known at the time that it wouldn't see the light of day.

Roger

Tomart had the tank as well as the Sky Stalker jet and all the 2nd series figures, playsets and accessories as "not determined". I dont ever remember seeing any playsets or accessory packs out at all? Did they release them?

And great score to the OP on finding this!! I'd love to have one.

Gyre-Viper
06-18-2012, 08:55 PM
Fantastic piece!


For the record I don't do vehicles.

spiderpumpkin
06-18-2012, 08:57 PM
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sirt8669
06-18-2012, 09:06 PM
I never messed with that line but have had a lot of it in collections I have picked up over time and I have had several items with the green tag on them, may still have those items in my storage, need to check.

notpicard
06-18-2012, 09:58 PM
Most of the later Extreme stuff was solicited by Hasbro as a part of their LC program. I have never found out what the letters L and C actually stand for in that case. But the gist of it is that if you were a store that wanted to sell them, you would have to ship them overseas yourself. It seems like an odd thing to do and my guess is that it was Hasbro's way of cutting their losses. I have never heard of a specific store that had them but the rumor is that just a couple figures ended up at comic shops.

Regardless of all that, this and Dan's have to be samples sent to Kenner. I have to wonder if any of this will ever surface. By now, I doubt anyone is looking for them if any were produced.

spiderpumpkin
06-18-2012, 10:18 PM
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starwarsprotos
06-18-2012, 11:21 PM
Regardless of all that, this and Dan's have to be samples sent to Kenner. I have to wonder if any of this will ever surface. By now, I doubt anyone is looking for them if any were produced.

I would love to think I have one of two that exist!

I avoided the Extreme line entirely. When I saw it in the box with other Extreme stuff, I hadn't a clue about it. Until I researched it. And my first step on research is always ebay; when you type in the name of a toy and nothing comes up as current or closed auctions... you know something is not quite right.

saltymarine
06-19-2012, 01:02 AM
Damn that must B nice to find somthin that rare, Lucky You man!!

Goofateer
06-20-2012, 07:51 PM
Tomart had the tank as well as the Sky Stalker jet and all the 2nd series figures, playsets and accessories as "not determined". I dont ever remember seeing any playsets or accessory packs out at all? Did they release them?


Sky Stalker made it to market, the rest did not.

Roger

starwarsprotos
07-03-2012, 04:50 PM
Just posted this on ebay, I will post another reply and tell you how many viewers and watchers it had.

GI Joe Extreme Thunderin Fury Vehicle - NEVER RELEASED - 1 OF A KIND? | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290738256731#ht_9218wt_900)

Dealer Destro
07-03-2012, 04:59 PM
Just posted this on ebay, I will post another reply and tell you how many viewers and watchers it had.

GI Joe Extreme Thunderin Fury Vehicle - NEVER RELEASED - 1 OF A KIND? | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290738256731#ht_9218wt_900)

That's one hell of an opening bid. Good luck on your sale!

Lody
07-03-2012, 06:38 PM
Just posted this on ebay, I will post another reply and tell you how many viewers and watchers it had.

GI Joe Extreme Thunderin Fury Vehicle - NEVER RELEASED - 1 OF A KIND? | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290738256731#ht_9218wt_900)

I'm confused as to why you would not start this as a normal auction. I don't see it going for $5,000 right off the bat. I think you would be pleasantly surprised with the response.

And not to nitpick....but you are required to accept Paypal as payment. For me, given the rarity, asking price etc..I would not send payment any other way to ensure a successful and troublefree transaction.

Lantern_Lad
07-03-2012, 06:52 PM
Wow... good luck with that!

DaSmokeEater
07-03-2012, 07:23 PM
LOL! I loved reading your description...I suspect you'll actually feel a little disappointed if someone does take the bait.

nickvree
07-04-2012, 07:48 PM
Any guarantees that the tank is actually in the box? Maybe it's just a mocked up box with a different toy in it, lol

And no, I don't actually believe that, but with it being sealed... who knows ? :)

starwarsprotos
07-17-2012, 11:10 PM
I relisted it at $4k.

starwarsprotos
07-17-2012, 11:21 PM
I'm confused as to why you would not start this as a normal auction. I don't see it going for $5,000 right off the bat. I think you would be pleasantly surprised with the response.

And not to nitpick....but you are required to accept Paypal as payment. For me, given the rarity, asking price etc..I would not send payment any other way to ensure a successful and troublefree transaction.

I am not sure what you mean by a normal auction. If you mean a start at .99 cents and take whatever it sell for, the reason i did not do that should be pretty obvious... I did not want it to possibly sell for $50, obviously. Auctions take two eager people to bid against each other to raise the price. I hate reserve auctions and will not be a part of one, to list with $5k reserve is just plain stupid in my opinion. It just pisses people off.

The item had (has) a make offer option so people could do that, or even email me with an offer if they were serious.

Regarding paypal, the option of handing a large chunk over to them is not appealing I would be perfectly glad to even met someone some where to exchange this item. And I am not saying that I would not take paypal, it is the last resort thought.

starwarsprotos
07-17-2012, 11:24 PM
Any guarantees that the tank is actually in the box? Maybe it's just a mocked up box with a different toy in it, lol

And no, I don't actually believe that, but with it being sealed... who knows ? :)

Yeah that is possible. I try to be very honest in the description and sort of be clear about that.

For that matter, it could be a prototype of the toy.

starwarsprotos
07-17-2012, 11:29 PM
LOL! I loved reading your description...I suspect you'll actually feel a little disappointed if someone does take the bait.

I don't know what you mean by take the bait.

If you mean sell it, Yeah it will be sad to not own something that might be one-of-a-kind (one other opened one exists shown on yojoe site, this is the only other i can find and since it is sealed...it could be one of a kind.)

Breakerfan
07-18-2012, 12:00 AM
I am not sure what you mean by a normal auction. If you mean a start at .99 cents and take whatever it sell for, the reason i did not do that should be pretty obvious... I did not want it to possibly sell for $50, obviously. Auctions take two eager people to bid against each other to raise the price. I hate reserve auctions and will not be a part of one, to list with $5k reserve is just plain stupid in my opinion. It just pisses people off.

The item had (has) a make offer option so people could do that, or even email me with an offer if they were serious.

Regarding paypal, the option of handing a large chunk over to them is not appealing I would be perfectly glad to even met someone some where to exchange this item. And I am not saying that I would not take paypal, it is the last resort thought.

I agree with this. You never know what something is going to auction at. It can be hit or miss. If an item is this rare, most people may see the auction and not even know what they really are bidding on. It's too dangerous for it to flop.

nerdsgetchicks
07-18-2012, 12:10 AM
Your feedback is ehhhhh not so good. Not saying it was your fault. Just not so good. So did it sell for that amount?

dansjoes.com
07-21-2012, 11:56 AM
So, I know some were asking what was in the box for this unproduced vehicle. I finally had a moment to shoot some pics. I bought this in the late 90s/early 00s....my box was opened though still

ndb
07-21-2012, 12:07 PM
So, I know some were asking what was in the box for this unproduced vehicle. I finally had a moment to shoot some pics. I bought this in the late 90s/early 00s....my box was opened though still

Very cool, wish I had that.

Lody
07-21-2012, 01:34 PM
I am not sure what you mean by a normal auction. If you mean a start at .99 cents and take whatever it sell for, the reason i did not do that should be pretty obvious... I did not want it to possibly sell for $50, obviously. Auctions take two eager people to bid against each other to raise the price. I hate reserve auctions and will not be a part of one, to list with $5k reserve is just plain stupid in my opinion. It just pisses people off.

The item had (has) a make offer option so people could do that, or even email me with an offer if they were serious.

Regarding paypal, the option of handing a large chunk over to them is not appealing I would be perfectly glad to even met someone some where to exchange this item. And I am not saying that I would not take paypal, it is the last resort thought.

Regarding Paypal

Whether or not it's appealing, it's required. Which is probably why is hasn't sold.

Dree64
07-22-2012, 10:28 PM
Sky Stalker made it to market, the rest did not.

Roger

True the Sky Stalker did make it to market. I remember all the Toyrus, Ventures, and KBToys in my area, had the Sky Stalker in stock and they sat on the shelves forever. However, the helicopter known as The Tiger Hawk did not make it to the US Market. The Tiger Hawk was renamed and repackaged as the Battlehawk and sold exclusively in India. I was lucky enough to have both in my collection. They also made an exclusive green repaint of the Sky Stalker for the overseas martket, but I've only seen it MIB and I don't own one. Very few of these exclusives vehicles show up on Ebay and when they do they usually sell for under $100. I picked up my US Sky Stalker MIB three years ago for $25.00, that's including S & H, which is what it retailed for in stores back in the 90's. The Battle Hawk was a bit more, but it was still under $60.00 with S & H.

What sellers have to understand is the items they're selling, any collectable item is only valuable if its popular and a lot of people want it. If the item doesn't have those two factors going for it, you can forget trying to sell it for $5,000 to $4,000. GIJoe Extreme wasn't popular with a lot of Joe fans, and many fan don't even want to acknowledge its existence, plus the toy line was a complete failure. I'm one of the few members on this board that liked the cartoon and remember the toys fondly.

Also the Thunderin Fury isn't as rare as we think it is. I remember someone posted a pic of the GIJoe Blockbuster tank for sell MIB on Ebay and in one of the photos they posted, they had a stack of Boxed Thunderin Fury tanks in the back ground, just sitting there, about eight or so staked one on top of each other. I'm still kicking myself for not saving the pic from that auction. Oddly the seller was an ex-Kenner employee. So I believe they're more out there then we realize. The ex employees likely brought some home, knowing the toy line was a failure, hoping that one day they could make some extra cash selling them as collectors items MIB on Ebay in the future. So there out there guys, we just have to not give in to these high prices when one shows up on Ebay.

starwarsprotos
07-23-2012, 02:08 AM
Regarding Paypal

Whether or not it's appealing, it's required. Which is probably why is hasn't sold.

No, the price is why it has not yet sold.

Ebay sent me a message telling me "Please be reminded that our permitted payment methods include: PayPal, ProPay, Moneybookers.com, Paymate.com, credit or debit card through an internet merchant account, paper payments upon pickup/in person."

So I modified the auction and noted that I would accept paypal... but I would prefer payment upon pick up.

starwarsprotos
07-23-2012, 03:15 AM
What sellers have to understand is the items they're selling, any collectable item is only valuable if its popular and a lot of people want it. If the item doesn't have those two factors going for it, you can forget trying to sell it for $5,000 to $4,000. GIJoe Extreme wasn't popular with a lot of Joe fans, and many fan don't even want to acknowledge its existence, plus the toy line was a complete failure.


Your right about GI Joe Extreme line.

I have been dealing in collectibles and collectible toys, since 1991. I have customers 49 countries. So I am WELL versed in what things are worth, and it comes down to this. An item is worth what someone will pay for it... not a penny more. And there are PLENTY of completest out there that want it all. Further, some people can want something just because it is extremely rare (you think anyone really cares about Honus Wagner?). Which brings me to:


the Thunderin Fury isn't as rare as we think it is. I remember someone posted a pic of the GIJoe Blockbuster tank for sell MIB on Ebay and in one of the photos they posted, they had a stack of Boxed Thunderin Fury tanks in the back ground, just sitting there, about eight or so staked one on top of each other. I'm still kicking myself for not saving the pic from that auction. Oddly the seller was an ex-Kenner employee. So I believe they're more out there then we realize. The ex employees likely brought some home, knowing the toy line was a failure, hoping that one day they could make some extra cash selling them as collectors items MIB on Ebay in the future. So there out there guys, we just have to not give in to these high prices when one shows up on Ebay.

No, their not out there. By your own admission you have no evidence to back this up, I am not sure what you think you saw but I doubt it was a stack of Thunderin Furys. Unless you have proof of this, you mentioning it is pretty meaningless.

Forgive me, but I have heard type of things before. As a Star Wars action figure dealer, I kept hearing tails from people who look through my loose vintage SW figs. Time and Time again a story was told to me about "I used to have the Boba Fett that shot the little rocket", it just became a sad joke. I began counting at one point (and over 7 or 8 years) I kept track...I swear on my life.. 28 people told me the had / have a Rocket firing Boba Fett. I still remember...20 fricking 8. The "I have" people where shut down pretty quick with my instant offer of $2k, then they, all of the sudden, did not have it anymore. BUT some people, I truly believe actually thought they had it. One dude told me about how shot his cat with it, he really thought he did. So i will give you the same courtesy and say you are likely mistaken about some picture with a pile of them.

But with all due respect, fantasy / conjecture about stacks of them that will no doubt be arriving on ebay some day soon...well it is about as likely as me finding that vintage mail-away fett that actually fired a rocket.

There are / were NO employees that brought piles of these home this is backed up by the fact (not conjecture) that in the past 17 years the internet has evidence of only ONE other.

I know where mine came from, the estate of a senior design engineer, not some random Kenner employee. The other Thunderin Fury ( that is pictured by DanJoes ) likely came from someone as high level as my guy. Equating a senior design engineer to one of the thousands of Kenner employee is like comparing a Starting lineup Major Leaguer to the guy that sells the tickets to the game.

These things often are misplaced by the company that has much better things to do than to track piece to a cancelled toy line.

This piece is NOT for everybody; But without a shread of evidence (and 17 years of contrary evidence) its foolish to pretend there is a bunch somewhere.

Maybe there are more, but in 17 years, two have surfaced. Anyone who googles the words "GI JOE Thunderin Fury" will be directed here. I would encourge them to tell (and show) the world, on this forum, about theirs. I would love to know how many there are. If there were 10 of them it would not dramatically effect their value.

starwarsprotos
07-23-2012, 03:27 AM
So, I know some were asking what was in the box for this unproduced vehicle. I finally had a moment to shoot some pics. I bought this in the late 90s/early 00s....my box was opened though still

Whew! thanks man I have been worried my box might be full of some random GI JOE parts. It is very important to me that any potential buyer get what he pays (in this case, dearly) for.

Do you have an accurate scale? Can you weight that for me?

My other option to 100% confirm the contents of my box is to have it X-Rayed which is going to cost me about $100 at a vet... I would rather avoid that. but even if I have to get it X-rayed at least I know what to look for now...Thanks again.

Anyway, WoW! that is an awesome piece. You might contact the yojoe site and let them know that the "action figure" in the tank is mount in the vehicle, they have it on their unproduced action figure list... does a waist up dude count as an action figure? Not in my book.

hahoo3
07-23-2012, 08:01 AM
Could at least do Free Shipping! Since you probably bought it for $20 or traded for it.

starwarsprotos
07-23-2012, 11:40 AM
Could at least do Free Shipping! Since you probably bought it for $20 or traded for it.

Give me a moment, I am reeling back in my intestines, they burst out my side as I was laughing at the $20 remark. But I would go as high as $30 for any additional ones.

Okay you got a deal, I will give you free shipping.

tomknox
07-23-2012, 12:32 PM
You're side has busted with all that bull$hit you're slanging....95 to ship that crap after you pay 4000.00 dollars....Keep typing up this crap though cuz this is getting interesting LOL....goin to get my popcorn....

Lody
07-23-2012, 02:02 PM
True the Sky Stalker did make it to market. I remember all the Toyrus, Ventures, and KBToys in my area, had the Sky Stalker in stock and they sat on the shelves forever. However, the helicopter known as The Tiger Hawk did not make it to the US Market. The Tiger Hawk was renamed and repackaged as the Battlehawk and sold exclusively in India. I was lucky enough to have both in my collection. They also made an exclusive green repaint of the Sky Stalker for the overseas martket, but I've only seen it MIB and I don't own one. Very few of these exclusives vehicles show up on Ebay and when they do they usually sell for under $100. I picked up my US Sky Stalker MIB three years ago for $25.00, that's including S & H, which is what it retailed for in stores back in the 90's. The Battle Hawk was a bit more, but it was still under $60.00 with S & H.

What sellers have to understand is the items they're selling, any collectable item is only valuable if its popular and a lot of people want it. If the item doesn't have those two factors going for it, you can forget trying to sell it for $5,000 to $4,000. GIJoe Extreme wasn't popular with a lot of Joe fans, and many fan don't even want to acknowledge its existence, plus the toy line was a complete failure. I'm one of the few members on this board that liked the cartoon and remember the toys fondly.

Also the Thunderin Fury isn't as rare as we think it is. I remember someone posted a pic of the GIJoe Blockbuster tank for sell MIB on Ebay and in one of the photos they posted, they had a stack of Boxed Thunderin Fury tanks in the back ground, just sitting there, about eight or so staked one on top of each other. I'm still kicking myself for not saving the pic from that auction. Oddly the seller was an ex-Kenner employee. So I believe they're more out there then we realize. The ex employees likely brought some home, knowing the toy line was a failure, hoping that one day they could make some extra cash selling them as collectors items MIB on Ebay in the future. So there out there guys, we just have to not give in to these high prices when one shows up on Ebay.

I remember seeing that Battle Hawk available in the early 2000's. Much like the other Funskool stuff it was wicked cheap to get. Wish I had grabbed one cause the design is pretty funky.

Looks like a cross between the AGP and Skystorm

drunknmunky
07-23-2012, 02:44 PM
No, the price is why it has not yet sold.


This pretty much sums everything up right here.

PERCULATOR
07-23-2012, 02:49 PM
So where did you get this?

Brcall
07-23-2012, 02:52 PM
So where did you get this?

He said he got it from an estate sale of a former Kenner Lead Designer.

spiderpumpkin
07-23-2012, 02:56 PM
So, I know some were asking what was in the box for this unproduced vehicle. I finally had a moment to shoot some pics. I bought this in the late 90s/early 00s....my box was opened though still

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/attachments/g-i-joe-news-rumors/112517d1342886196-i-have-unproduced-extreme-thunderin-fury-tank-photo.jpg


Very cool. Thanks for posting a picture.

jogunwarrior
07-23-2012, 03:12 PM
Agree drunknmunky, that price is pretty up there. Like the OP said, its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I'd maybe relist it without the 4K starting bid, and put a reserve on it if you are wanting at least a minimum amount. I'd also rethink that outrageous shipping cost. Shipping should cost what it actually costs to ship, perhaps with a slight increase taking into acount cost of supplies and time.

the tank does look cool though and may fit in well with my ARAH Joe's with some minor modifications. I'd pay $45-$50 for it, since I'd plan on opening and customizing it.

spiderpumpkin
07-23-2012, 03:21 PM
I just noticed the Extreme line says Kenner on the package instead of Hasbro.

Cdt Weasel
07-23-2012, 03:31 PM
Agree drunknmunky, that price is pretty up there. Like the OP said, its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I'd maybe relist it without the 4K starting bid, and put a reserve on it if you are wanting at least a minimum amount. I'd also rethink that outrageous shipping cost. Shipping should cost what it actually costs to ship, perhaps with a slight increase taking into acount cost of supplies and time.

the tank does look cool though and may fit in well with my ARAH Joe's with some minor modifications. I'd pay $45-$50 for it, since I'd plan on opening and customizing it.

Ack! You'd probably customize abe lincoln's hat too.

footloose
07-23-2012, 03:48 PM
man is that one ugly turd..however congrats on your find

Lody
07-23-2012, 04:12 PM
I just noticed the Extreme line says Kenner on the package instead of Hasbro.

Kenner produced all the GI Joe stuff from 1995 to 1998

jogunwarrior
07-23-2012, 04:18 PM
Ack! You'd probably customize abe lincoln's hat too.

Its tough for me to compare Abe Lincoln's hat with this Extreme Tank, but If customizing the hat would allow me to have an actual use for it, then yes.

starwarsprotos
07-23-2012, 04:21 PM
Agree drunknmunky, that price is pretty up there. Like the OP said, its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I'd maybe relist it without the 4K starting bid, and put a reserve on it if you are wanting at least a minimum amount. I'd also rethink that outrageous shipping cost. Shipping should cost what it actually costs to ship, perhaps with a slight increase taking into acount cost of supplies and time.

I do not over charge on shipping. I just refunded $9.30 to guy that paid me $31 to ship something that fit in 2 $10.85 flat rate boxes. "Handling" charges typically involve the buyer bent over handling their ankles. Any overages of any significant amount should always be refunded, no exceptions.

I have shipped over 10k packages to 49 countries. I my estimate of $95 is a guess, but still your talk about $20 in packing supplies, bubblewrap and peanuts, a couple of triple corregated boxes. And an insurance shipping charge that will rival the cost to ship the item. If the buyer lives the next state over, that is fine. If he is AK or HI or some very rural area. As much trouble as delivery companies give you over insurance claims, I would honestly consider building a wooden crate to ship it in.

Would anyone refuse to ship something like this for free? No one in their right mind.

RE: reserve prices on auction.. .why bother? It is just frustrating for the bidder. Why not just say what you want for something, offer an best offer option on it and go from there?

Cdt Weasel
07-23-2012, 04:23 PM
Bah. Kids these days, no respect for history.

Dree64
07-23-2012, 06:16 PM
I remember seeing that Battle Hawk available in the early 2000's. Much like the other Funskool stuff it was wicked cheap to get. Wish I had grabbed one cause the design is pretty funky.

Looks like a cross between the AGP and Skystorm

Yeah the Battle Hawk has a very unique design. I always thought it looked like a cross between a Conquest and and a Dragonfly. It was my favorite vehicle from the GIJoe Extreme cartoon, so when I found out Hasbro gave the molds to Funskool, I did my best to track one down. The Bad part was I had to paint the rotors and landing gear/handle. They were all neon orange and tail was not two tone like the pics of the back of the package. I had to then, buy a bunch of paint from my local art store and mix them to create a shade of gray that was closest to the rest of the fuselage.

drunknmunky
07-23-2012, 06:52 PM
I remember seeing that Battle Hawk available in the early 2000's. Much like the other Funskool stuff it was wicked cheap to get. Wish I had grabbed one cause the design is pretty funky.

Looks like a cross between the AGP and Skystorm

I just sold mine a few months ago on ebay. It was opened but with the box and directions. Got like 25 bucks for it.


As for the item being sold, i don't think it's worth anywhere near what you're asking for it. You said it yourself that the reason it hasn't sold is because of the price. The item, although rare, just isn't desirable. Let's put it this way, I had an item (still sealed) that was supposedly never produced for retail. However some were made and given to Hasbro employess.
YOJOE.COM | Thunderwing Jet Pack (http://www.yojoe.com/12inch/94/thunderwing/)
It was made for the 12 inch Hall of Fame figures, who like Extreme, aren't very popular with collectors. Even though it was only given to employees and is apparently pretty rare, I sold it for less than what you're asking on shipping. Apples to oranges? Maybe so. Just saying rarity doesn't always equate to value.

tkprime
07-23-2012, 06:58 PM
True the Sky Stalker did make it to market. I remember all the Toyrus, Ventures, and KBToys in my area, had the Sky Stalker in stock and they sat on the shelves forever. However, the helicopter known as The Tiger Hawk did not make it to the US Market. The Tiger Hawk was renamed and repackaged as the Battlehawk and sold exclusively in India. I was lucky enough to have both in my collection. They also made an exclusive green repaint of the Sky Stalker for the overseas martket, but I've only seen it MIB and I don't own one. Very few of these exclusives vehicles show up on Ebay and when they do they usually sell for under $100. I picked up my US Sky Stalker MIB three years ago for $25.00, that's including S & H, which is what it retailed for in stores back in the 90's. The Battle Hawk was a bit more, but it was still under $60.00 with S & H.

What sellers have to understand is the items they're selling, any collectable item is only valuable if its popular and a lot of people want it. If the item doesn't have those two factors going for it, you can forget trying to sell it for $5,000 to $4,000. GIJoe Extreme wasn't popular with a lot of Joe fans, and many fan don't even want to acknowledge its existence, plus the toy line was a complete failure. I'm one of the few members on this board that liked the cartoon and remember the toys fondly.

Also the Thunderin Fury isn't as rare as we think it is. I remember someone posted a pic of the GIJoe Blockbuster tank for sell MIB on Ebay and in one of the photos they posted, they had a stack of Boxed Thunderin Fury tanks in the back ground, just sitting there, about eight or so staked one on top of each other. I'm still kicking myself for not saving the pic from that auction. Oddly the seller was an ex-Kenner employee. So I believe they're more out there then we realize. The ex employees likely brought some home, knowing the toy line was a failure, hoping that one day they could make some extra cash selling them as collectors items MIB on Ebay in the future. So there out there guys, we just have to not give in to these high prices when one shows up on Ebay.

I have a EXTREME super soaker, I don't know how rare it is, but it was part of the gijoe extreme toyline.


And I remember a few people who collected the Extreme line showing links to various auctions with cancelled figures, and vehicles.

I've seen plenty of EXTREME toys @ closeout stores (late 90's early 2000's). More power to the seller on ebay. But I think we'll see more of these in the years to come as more and more old toy stock is found.

Case in point the cancelled JP gijoes. Over on the JP board several carded samples hit and are now in the hands of collectors, so the long and short of it is if you look hard enough you can eventually find it.......It's also a matter of how much you want to pay!

CG76
07-23-2012, 07:07 PM
Ouch. You could do a lot of other stuff with $4,000.

Maybe if the item was a cancelled item for the ARAH line (which I mainly collect) or even the 25th line, both which are popular with collectors, people would be willing to consider the pay top dollar.

I just sold mine a few months ago on ebay. It was opened but with the box and directions. Got like 25 bucks for it.


As for the item being sold, i don't think it's worth anywhere near what you're asking for it. You said it yourself that the reason it hasn't sold is because of the price. The item, although rare, just isn't desirable. Let's put it this way, I had an item (still sealed) that was supposedly never produced for retail. However some were made and given to Hasbro employess.
YOJOE.COM | Thunderwing Jet Pack (http://www.yojoe.com/12inch/94/thunderwing/)
It was made for the 12 inch Hall of Fame figures, who like Extreme, aren't very popular with collectors. Even though it was only given to employees and is apparently pretty rare, I sold it for less than what you're asking on shipping. Apples to oranges? Maybe so. Just saying rarity doesn't always equate to value.