2014: If they reboot, reimagined ARAH and really brought it.....

[Ruin]

There's been enough talk about a reboot of ARAH (ok, I may be making that up) to warrant some thought on toy offerings. how's this?


Season 1 (2014)

Alpha($12):

RAM Cycle: Harley Davidson ?? w detachable sidecar and .30cal
Claw: Retooled from the original
Falcon: Powered Hang Glider

Bravo($15):

Firebat: modernized firebat similar to Skysweeper (with a proper landing gear)
Armadillo: Slightly larger and retooled version of the original with some plausible way of loading the weapons.

Delta($20):
MOBAT: Bradley Armored Fighting Vehicle
Rattler: A-10 Thunderbolt VTOL (rerelease)

Echo($35):
Tomahawk: V-22 Osprey


Season 2 (2015)

Alpha:
Joe Seal Raft
Cobra Jet ski
M.A.N.T.A: sailboard with a gun.

Bravo:
A.W.E Striker: variant of 25th mold
Water Moccasin (no really, call it the @#$%#$ Water Moccasin)
Reimagined Cobra flight pod

Delta ($20):
Vamp: POC variant
Hiss: POC variant
Stinger: POC variant of VAMP

Echo ($35):
SkyStriker: F-35B
Night Raven: Eurofighter.


Season 3 (2016)

Alpha:
Drednaught Motorcycles
??

Beta:
??
??

Delta:
Fang: Based on the Black Dragon
Dragonfly: AH-1Z Viper
Conquest: Rereleased Conquest.

Echo:
??

Foxtrot ($100):
Cobra guided missile frigate

200th post!!!

[Ruin]

oops, this may belong in modern toys. can we move this?

[nerdsgetchicks]

There's been enough talk about a reboot of ARAH (ok, I may be making that up) to warrant some thought on toy offerings. how's this?


Season 1 (2014)

Alpha($12):

RAM Cycle: Harley Davidson ?? w detachable sidecar and .30cal
Claw: Retooled from the original
Falcon: Powered Hang Glider

Bravo($15):

Firebat: modernized firebat similar to Skysweeper (with a proper landing gear)
Armadillo: Slightly larger and retooled version of the original with some plausible way of loading the weapons.

Delta($20):
MOBAT: Bradley Armored Fighting Vehicle
Rattler: A-10 Thunderbolt VTOL (rerelease)

Echo($35):
Tomahawk: V-22 Osprey


Season 2 (2015)

Alpha:
Joe Seal Raft
Cobra Jet ski
M.A.N.T.A: sailboard with a gun.

Bravo:
A.W.E Striker: variant of 25th mold
Water Moccasin (no really, call it the @#$%#$ Water Moccasin)
Reimagined Cobra flight pod

Delta ($20):
Vamp: POC variant
Hiss: POC variant
Stinger: POC variant of VAMP

Echo ($35):
SkyStriker: F-35B
Night Raven: Eurofighter.


Season 3 (2016)

Alpha:
Drednaught Motorcycles
??

Beta:
??
??

Delta:
Fang: Based on the Black Dragon
Dragonfly: AH-1Z Viper
Conquest: Rereleased Conquest.

Echo:
??

Foxtrot ($100):
Cobra guided missile frigate

200th post!!!

Wave 1 re-paints with new (like comic packs) head sculpts. I LOVED THESE!!!

http://www.yojoe.com/action/05/allgearedup/duke21.jpg
http://www.yojoe.com/action/05/allgearedup/roadblock14b.jpg
http://www.yojoe.com/action/05/allgearedup/flint10.jpg
http://www.yojoe.com/action/06/allgearedup/ladyjaye5_gearedup.jpg

[Fred]

Why not just keep going with POC? Per your HISS suggestions I'd prefer the retaliation HISS repainted V1. Same goes for Beachhead -retaliation repaint of V1.
They already have all the sculpting/molds they could need, they really aught to just hold polls on HISSTank about which figures and vehicles to release (similar to how HOH was done), as well as what parts and paint schemes to go with. Minor sculpting shouldn't be an issue, and likely won't be needed that often.
Their marketing department should be fired, just borrow free labor from the Tank!
As well I'd like to see a repaint of the Grizzly Patriot as a MOBAT, Night Attack Chopper (with non-crooked rotors) as a Dragonfly (with teeth decals), and a repaint of the Night Attack Humvee as Vamp mark I.

[Ruin]

I think getting a POC'd take on the original Duke, Scarlett, Rock n Roll, Breaker, Grunt, Steeler, Flash, and Grand Slam, with new Cobra Troopers and Officers, and some really ultimate CC would be a good place to start for figures.

:)

I think rereleasing some old molds would be more than fine, but GI joe has to also move on somewhat from the military of the 1980s...

[Jmacq1]

I think we're more likely to get a non-ARAH "reboot" of G.I. Joe than we are to get a toy line as expansive as the one described here, unless the movie and movie toys are a huge hit.

[Angry.Android]

hopefully not. ARAH is terribly dated, obsolete, and needs to be laid to rest. My hopes lie towards a complete reboot, with a more streamlined focus, with all new characters and vehicles. The 80s are gone. Let it go man.

EDIT: Also, GIJoe is character driven now and not all about a bunch of vehicles. Your list is very vehicle heavy and alot of that stuff will most likely sit on the shelf, humbly waiting for clearance.

[Ruin]

hopefully not. ARAH is terribly dated, obsolete, and needs to be laid to rest. My hopes lie towards a complete reboot, with a more streamlined focus, with all new characters and vehicles. The 80s are gone. Let it go man.

A complete reboot is actually what I had in mind. The 80s are indeed gone, which is why some core vehicles need updating. When I'm talking about rebooting ARAH, it's not like I want to pic up where Sunbow and DIC left off. You don't even have to call it ARAH...

EDIT: Also, GIJoe is character driven now and not all about a bunch of vehicles. Your list is very vehicle heavy and alot of that stuff will most likely sit on the shelf, humbly waiting for clearance.

Well, being character driven hasn't stopped figures from peg-warming either, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of things i think would pegwarm (besides some of the alpha vehicles).

[ekko]

Hasbro - if you are reading this please dismiss the call for any more AWE Strikers. We have had enough of those, thanks.

[esg2145]

hopefully not. ARAH is terribly dated, obsolete, and needs to be laid to rest. My hopes lie towards a complete reboot, with a more streamlined focus, with all new characters and vehicles. The 80s are gone. Let it go man.

EDIT: Also, GIJoe is character driven now and not all about a bunch of vehicles. Your list is very vehicle heavy and alot of that stuff will most likely sit on the shelf, humbly waiting for clearance.


I think the biggest thing you'd be fighting going back to a 80's ARAH style figure/articulation is the what everyone else is doing in the market now. Unfortunately between the better sculpts and more lifelike everything has become, not to mention w/ the more natural articulation for better posing of the figures that they have become now, an older ARAH articulation figure would be more of a collector thing and very limited in sales. I think it would have a hard time going up against all the the other mass produced stuff out there, and be more of a comic shop/exclusive kind of thing. :(

Funny, the figures have gotten better, and getting a simpler one is now more expensive and more exclusive. :)

About the only way around this as I see the future of the market cheaper wise, is what we have seen in the Dollar General figures - same basic sculpts to a limited degree, w/ less detail on the paint apps and fewer accessories.

My $0.02

[GI Guppy the third]

Apc, redesigned to look like the arma8x8.

[Angry.Android]

A complete reboot is actually what I had in mind. The 80s are indeed gone, which is why some core vehicles need updating. When I'm talking about rebooting ARAH, it's not like I want to pic up where Sunbow and DIC left off. You don't even have to call it ARAH...

I am talking about a total reboot. All new characters, all new vehicles, all new conflicts. Cobra revamped to be more modern and both organizations streamlined to remove the bloat.



Well, being character driven hasn't stopped figures from peg-warming either, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of things i think would pegwarm (besides some of the alpha vehicles).

A $10 figure pegwarming takes up much less space and money than a $30 vehicle.

I think the biggest thing you'd be fighting going back to a 80's ARAH style figure/articulation is the what everyone else is doing in the market now. Unfortunately between the better sculpts and more lifelike everything has become, not to mention w/ the more natural articulation for better posing of the figures that they have become now, an older ARAH articulation figure would be more of a collector thing and very limited in sales. I think it would have a hard time going up against all the the other mass produced stuff out there, and be more of a comic shop/exclusive kind of thing. :(

Funny, the figures have gotten better, and getting a simpler one is now more expensive and more exclusive. :)

About the only way around this as I see the future of the market cheaper wise, is what we have seen in the Dollar General figures - same basic sculpts to a limited degree, w/ less detail on the paint apps and fewer accessories.

My $0.02

I don't think we are going back to orings and rivets any time soon.

[dpstro]

I feel going back to old sculpts is taking multiple steps back for no reason.

A reboot is fine but use the POC style. We can save money by doing less accessories. Say 1 rifle 1 pistol and a back pack. I don't know how people feel about knifes. I don't use them. For me they stay holstered.

If you wanted to take it a step forward I wouldn't even mind generic packaging if the price drops enough.

There doesn't need to be 10 versions of SE, Duke, and others.

There are so many ways to save money. As for the vehicles I say cut out some of the Alpha and Bravo vehicles. Delta and Echo should come with 2 figures.

[WVMojo]

I'll take a reboot with PoC styling.

Give me 8-10 main characters for each side with a GI Joe trooper Army builder and a couple of Cobra Army builders to start (Blue Shirts / Vipers / or Shock Troopers). Make all the figs look like something that would be in a MW3 or other modern military shooter that way a kid walking down the toy isle may want to actually purchase something that looks like a game that is popular, while giving us old guys a more realistic line of figures to collect.

[Ruin]

A $10 figure pegwarming takes up much less space and money than a $30 vehicle.

True, but an individual echo vehicle would not have the logistical difficulties figures have of putting too many of an unpopular character in a box. A retailer can order echo vehicles seperately.

[Ruin]

Hasbro - if you are reading this please dismiss the call for any more AWE Strikers. We have had enough of those, thanks.

I put this at 2015 since by then it would have been seven years since the release of the last green AWE Striker. As far as I know, they still have the tooling and the last few iterations of this vehicle have been mediocre.

Oh, and I could personally use some AWE Strikers that aren't some funky colour.

:)

[Shipshape1983]

Reintroduce the Original 13 with updated gear and a new modern terrorist threat.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Reintroduce the Original 13 with updated gear and a new modern terrorist threat.

P.S. Hasbro- See Cearaus's OG13 POC updates for inspiration and how to do this right..and copy them to the T (and of course give him royalties for doing the design work for you) ...I will buy them forthwith..

[Wylde Weezle]

I'll take a reboot with PoC styling.

Give me 8-10 main characters for each side with a GI Joe trooper Army builder and a couple of Cobra Army builders to start (Blue Shirts / Vipers / or Shock Troopers). Make all the figs look like something that would be in a MW3 or other modern military shooter that way a kid walking down the toy isle may want to actually purchase something that looks like a game that is popular, while giving us old guys a more realistic line of figures to collect.

^^THIS^^

The Resolute and Renegades versions of Scarlett seemed too much tied to being an homage to her classic leotard and cowgirl boots/gloves look instead of giving her a modern "agent" look like Jennifer Garner in "the Kingdom" or even the Retaliation Lady Jaye look (refer to poster of Adrienne Palicki, desert fatigues, dark glasses). The 30th Ace, I think, was a great example of what to do. POC Snow Job was one of my favorites -- stay in that direction and I think kids and collectors would respond well.

[CobraOfficer999]

Utilizing their Tonka Subsidiary (2017)
1. Steel and Rubber HISS ($50.00)
2. All Steel FLAGG ($90.00)
3. Steel&rubber VAMP ($30)

[Fred]

Cobra: has been spin-doctored in the media and portrayed as a totalitarian terrorist organization when in truth they're an anarcho collective co-operative corporate-military based on meritocracy, and funded by developing nations to combat Western Imperialism.

ARBCO Industries:
Corporate holding conglomerate of Cobra

Extensive Enterprizes (Red Shadows):
Subsidiary of ARBCO, financial arm of ARBCO. Red Shadows were a terrorist evolution of the Nazis, divided into MARS, and Extensive Enterprizes, they were cloning Valusians (Red Shadows Kraken -Alien Reptiles), Cobra Commander is the original Valusian, Zartan was a protoype gene-splicing experiment in a living host, Billy is a Hybred human/valusian clone. Dr. Venom was responsible for the genetic research that led to the Fred program, as well as the mind control program that brainwashed Flagg, he transferred his consciousness into what later became the Cobra mainframe, before committing suicide when the Red Shadows main compound was destroyed. He can possess Overkill at will, and is responsible for Overkill's intellect, as well as re-writing Mindbenders personality, and re-engineering his mind. He returns when the Commander founds Cobra and re-activates the Brainwave Scanner, allowing Dr. Venom to spread throughout the Cobra mainframe.

MARS industries Iron Grenadiers:
Subsidiary of ARBCO, Armament wing of ARBCO

Dreadnoks:
Former Cobras now Mercenary Biker Gang

Arashikage:
Ninja Clan

Cobra bases & Special equipment:
Gulf of Mexico: Cobra Island, Broca Beach
Cobra Helicarier
Scotland: Castle Destro transforms into Silent Castle
Washington DC: Cobra Consulate
New York: EE Towers
Vermont: Town of Springfield, MARS Factory, ARBCO Factory
Japan: Arashikage Temple
Florida: Zartan's Shack
Terrordromes (many across the globe)
HAARP, CERN (many across the globe)
Mantis Submarine (many across the globe)
SNAKE (Giant mechanical power armor, many across the globe)

Coil (Cobra Command):
Cobra Commander (Former Red Shadow, Valusian)
Serpentor (Fully organic Fred 0, programmed military strategy & tactics. See Crimson Guard. Emperor of Cobra.)
Destro (Former Red Shadow, Husband of the Baroness)
Baroness (Wife of Destro, Sister of Major Bludd, inherited the wealth of Baron Ironbludd)
Major Bludd (Formerly Baron Ironbludd, Renowned poet, Brother of the Baroness, Joined the French Legion to get a new identity, Homosexual)
Zarana (Harriet Nod, Zartan's sister)
Tomax (Shares an empathic connection with twin brother Overlord, quick tempered, slips into a coma upon the death of his brother)
Overlord (Shares an empathic connection with twin brother Tomax, cool headed.)
Overkill (Former Red Shadow, Fusion: Fred Skelton; a psychopathic Viper, Skeletron, Scrap-Iron. Mechanical Genius and totally homicidal. Iron Grenadier General.)
Dr. Mindbender
Firefly (The Faceless Master. Tracked and Killed The Soft Master in a plot to manipulate Storm shadow and usurp the Arashikage. Hired Zartan to assist him with this.)
Zartan (Student of Onihashi the swordsmith who commited seppuku, after finding out he was duped to train Zartan for Zartan to have access to assassinate The Hard Master. Tracks then Kills the Blind Master who knows of his involvement with Hard Master's death. Brother of Zarana. Valusian gene-splice)
Storm Shadow (The Young Master, Nephew of Hard Master, cousin of Jinx, friend of Snake-Eyes, Stalker, and Wade Collins.)
Buzzer (Richard Blinkin)
Roadpig (Thomas Winkin, MPD, feels no pain)

Cobra Legions:
Crimson Guard (Formerly Red Shadows. BAT endoskeleton Serpentor clones, continuation of the Nazi clone program focused on Eugenics.)
Cobra Officer
Techno-Vipers (Tele-Vipers)
Arashikage
Viper
Cobra Blueshirt Trooper
Iron Grenadier/BAT
Zombie

Vehicles:
Night Raven
Mamba (Cargo Chopper from the comics)
TrubbleBubbles
HISS Tanks
Rattlers
Stinger (APC)


GIJOE: Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity; a NATO special forces team of ignorant troops who believe they're fighting for freedom, led by a General fully engorged within the military industrial complex (General Flagg). Members identities are erased and their deaths faked.

GIJOE bases:
Eastern Hemisphere HQ: USS Flagg
Western Hemisphere HQ, Nevada: PITT
Collarado: Snake-Eyes cabin
Biloxi Mississippi: Roadblock's Reastaurant

Flagg (Joseph Colton the original GIJOE, and former Black Major Wilder Vaughn of the Red Shadows, eventually found to be corrupt and still partnered with Destro to escalate tension, increase arms sales, and secure resources)
Hawk (Serpentor Clone "Maximus" manchurian candidate who overcame programming with Doc, Spirit and Breaker's help i.e. combined backstory with General Ray)
Flint
Scarlett
Falcon
Slaughter
Doc
Lady-Jaye
Shipwreck
Breaker (Combination of Mainframe, Dialtone, and Breaker)
Wild Bill
Cover Girl
Mercer
Duke
Stalker (Friend of Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Wade Collins)
Beachhead
Gung-Ho (Professional knife fighter)
Rock & Roll (Bass player and surfer)
Roadblock (Chef)
Storm Shadow (becomes GIJOE to redeem himself, after finding out Snake-Eyes was framed for Hard Master's death. He arranged for Firefly to assassinate Snake-Eyes out of jealousy over his selection to lead the Arashikage. Firefly actually manipulated him in a coup. Allows Billy to lead Arashikage, which unifies both factions.)
Snake-Eyes (The Silent Master, Friend of Storm Shadow, Wade Collins, and Stalker)
Spirit (Psychologist)
Billy (Cobra Commander's 'son', Apprentice of Blind Master, Soft Master, Storm Shadow, Snake-Eyes, and Zartan. New leader of the Arashikage. Valusian hybrid)
Jinx (Hard Master's daughter, cousin of Storm Shadow, Apprentice of Hard Master, Blind Master, Soft Master, Snake-Eyes, and Storm Shadow)
Tunnel Rat (Larry Hama)
Kamakura (Apprentice of Snake-Eyes, son of Wade Collins a Red Shadow and friend of Stalker, Snake-Eyes, and Storm Shadow. Wade died during the creation of Cobra Island, his DNA used for Fred's)

Joe Troopers:
Steel Brigade (Security & Special Operations)
PAC/RATs (Bot unit, capable of control via Tan shirts, or Breaker, acts as direct Team Support on missions)
Green Shirt Trooper (Infantry, Armor, Air-Force)
Tan Shirt Trooper (Support -Engineers, technicians, medics)

Joe Vehicles:
C130 Hercules
Skystriker (Raptor)
Dragonfly (Apache + Tomahawk combo)
Ghosthawk
Grizzly Patriot
Vamp

Oktober Guard:
Non-NATO Ex-WARSAW Russian Special Forces team
Breckov
Daina
Dragonsky
Horror Show

Flagg:
Support Team:
Hawk
Shipwreck (Sailor outfit, Chief Engineer of the Flagg. Primary Specialy: Industrial Engineer. Secondary Specialty: SEAL)
Wild Bill
Cover Girl (Armor, when needed)

Eastern Hemisphere Team:
Falcon
Scarlett
Duke
Stalker
Shipwreck (SEAL outfit)
Spirit
Roadblock
Tunnel Rat
Kamakura


PITT:
Support Team:
Flagg
Lady-Jaye (wears a Hat)
Breaker
Doc

Training Team:
Slaughter
Snake-Eyes (Commando outfit)
Beachhead
Gung-Ho
Rock & Roll

Western Hemisphere Team:
Flint
Beachhead
Gung-Ho
Rock & Roll
Snake-Eyes (Commando outfit + Kwinn necklace. Kwinn died during the destruction of the Red Shadows, which is also when Major Bludd lost an arm & eye, and Snake-Eyes became disfigured and mute.)
Lady-Jaye (wears Hair)


Global Intelligence/Espionage Team:
*Destro (Double agent, actively working for both sides, feeds intel)
Scarlett
Mercer
*Storm Shadow (Eventually leaves Cobra)
Snake-Eyes (Visor + Timber)
Billy
Jinx

[Headman]

The 80's are back in a big way!

[Fred]

If it's a complete update, you could just take off from where ARAH would conceivably have left off, and develop/elaborate from there. I think the following would be kind of neat:

Cobra Command:
Cobra Commander (Snake-Eyes, turned traitor)
Destro (Daughter of Destro & Baroness)
Zarana (Steals her brothers shape-shifting technology)
Overkill (Mechanical Genius and totally homicidal.)
Firefly (Son of Flint & Lady-Jaye)

Cobra Legions:
Officer
Viper
Imperial Guard
Technician/Medical Staff
Iron Grenadier/BAT
Zombie

Vehicles:
Night Raven
TrubbleBubbles
HISS Tanks
Stinger (APC)
SNAKE Mech (Completely new tooling)
Mantis (Larger sized vehicle)

Joes:
General Duke
Flagg Jr. (Son of the Original General Flagg)
Falcon (Son of General Hawk, adopted brother of Duke)
Doc (Female neice of Original Doc)
Mercer
Billy (Original Cobra Commander's son, Apprentice of Storm Shadow)
Jinx (Cousin of Storm Shadow, Apprentice of Storm Shadow)
Tunnel Rat
Kamakura (Apprentice of Snake-Eyes)
Crush (Daughter of Shipwreck & Cover Girl, can pilot any vehicle)
Dialtone (Female, Resolute)
Kwinn (Son of Original Kwinn)
Heavy-Duty

Joe Troopers:
Steel Brigade (Security & Special Operations)
PAC/RATs (Bot unit, capable of control via Tan shirts, or Breaker, acts as direct Team Support on missions)
Green Shirt Trooper (Infantry, Armor, Air-Force)
Tan Shirt Trooper (Support -Engineers, technicians, medics)

Dragonhawk (Large Ghosthawk Dropship)
Skystriker (Raptor)
Grizzly Patriot APC Tank
Vamp