View Full Version : Your largest complaint to Hasbro?
minstrelboy
06-14-2012, 05:44 PM
If you could sound off to Hasbro and have ONE thing changed about the modern GI Joe product lines, what would it be? Before the arrival of Retaliation toys, my answer would have hands down been "larger distribution numbers/increased availability." However, the new line makes me want to say "return to POC-type styling and articulation, while the cheapskate in me says "lower price point."
But when all is said and done, distribution and availability are still my biggest complaint. Even if brick and mortar stores won't carry them, why doesn't Hasbro's own online retail store keep things stocked. More and more often I have to turn to other online resources, and the inflated prices there keeps depriving my collection of figures I'd gladly pay for at more reasonable retail prices. I feel this is the consensus for most of the community here, but maybe I'm wrong. How do you feel?
r3v3n63
06-14-2012, 05:56 PM
Distribution.
I like to think I have a marginal understanding of what goes into making the Joe line but treating it like we are Star Wars collectors seems un-smart to me. So, yes. same problem you have.
CrimsonGuard101
06-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Better education to its retailers (and some type of enforcment) around wave assortments and why collectors are looking for specific figures, its a positive thing not a negative thing like Target feels it is. Its pointless to offer waves if retail has no idea why they do this. Retail only cares as long as it has SOMETHING on the peg...it dosen't care if its Storm Shadow or rare_troop_builder00...
second would be to not retire a wave so fast. Give retail time to order the gd product before the wave ends...
SonOfMindbender
06-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Stop giving me things to complain about!!!
laurenluna1977
06-14-2012, 06:00 PM
Need moar Gurlz
shipwreak73
06-14-2012, 06:26 PM
they went and got rid of the o-rings
Dangerjoe
06-14-2012, 06:27 PM
no naked scarlett
sharky
06-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Make your toys repacker proof.
Zarana
06-14-2012, 06:43 PM
Hasbro, Stop selling toys for a profit you scalpers.
kneroh
06-14-2012, 06:46 PM
I wish they'd demand a basic competency test from their consumers before they are allowed to buy toys.
england joe
06-14-2012, 06:49 PM
Distribution to the UK would be nice, i know that a lot of stores try to keep their prices down but when your paying the equilivant price of 16 to 17 dollars per fig its a bit much, an yes i know its all to do with customs charges an making a profit but come on give us UK collectors a break.
Barefoot Jedi
06-14-2012, 06:49 PM
I'm easy to please and fancy myself an undemanding fan.
That said, I do think if a GIJOE has a holster or a sheathe on its gear, leg, etc., that it should include an accessory for it and not just be empty.
I don't cry in the shower and cut over this or anything nor do I have any intention of quitting GIJOE and collecting because of it. I understand the need to trim production costs as much as reasonably possible. Still, not a fan of this practice.
sharky
06-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Stop making live action movies.
DarkHorse
06-14-2012, 06:53 PM
Making them availbale at retail in England.
Headman
06-14-2012, 06:55 PM
Vehicle driver articulation.
GhostGL
06-14-2012, 06:58 PM
Figure stands!
youdoitimbusy
06-14-2012, 06:59 PM
-Wave distribution- I don't know if that's the correct way to describe it. I think if they released waves in the oposit order they intended they would have better results. If there are 5 waves and they sent out wave 5 first, then 4 nd so on. By the time they got to the "core charactors" or what usually peg worms, everyone would have their fill of the hard to find...don't know if I described that very well. To me it always seems like the first wave or 2 are really weak,could just be me.
Headman
06-14-2012, 07:01 PM
Figure stands!
Good one.
That figures intended as ARAH updates be as faithfully recreated as budget and tooling allows. (I'm looking at you, 7-pack Renegades!)
diablosandwitch
06-14-2012, 07:07 PM
lack of vision and treating the property like shit
89PILOT
06-14-2012, 07:08 PM
Why fucking bother!!!
Headman
06-14-2012, 07:08 PM
They need more neon joes.
Zarana
06-14-2012, 07:09 PM
Why can't you change their cloths anymore?
Headman
06-14-2012, 07:11 PM
Why can't you change their cloths anymore?
Because fewer child molesters are buying joes.
Dem_Yoe'z!
06-14-2012, 07:19 PM
Stop making live action movies.
^This would fix a lot of the problems right here.^
1: Quit skimping on articulation, especially vehicle drivers
2: Ditch the "core character" concept
3: Replace the spring-loaded BS for more weapons/accessories
4: Make vehicles cool, not cheap with gimmicks
5: Return figure stands
spider
06-14-2012, 07:20 PM
I agree with the lack of distribution/availability of the figures.From 83-94 I remember seeing joes at every store practically much like the star wars line now,and pretty much most every figure was available in large quantities except snake eyes,zartan,and storm shadow(until the 90s) times change huh.Someone in another thread had a great idea,2 lines a basic line like the DG joes no frills just the basics at a $6 price range,then a deluxe type line like poc/30th with more weapons and such at the $10 range.I guess the big complaint is treat the joe line like star wars,transformers and marvel,get the troops on the pegs and keep 'em there.
Griff
06-14-2012, 07:35 PM
I agree with the lack of distribution/availability of the figures.From 83-94 I remember seeing joes at every store practically much like the star wars line now,and pretty much most every figure was available in large quantities except snake eyes,zartan,and storm shadow(until the 90s) times change huh.Someone in another thread had a great idea,2 lines a basic line like the DG joes no frills just the basics at a $6 price range,then a deluxe type line like poc/30th with more weapons and such at the $10 range.I guess the big complaint is treat the joe line like star wars,transformers and marvel,get the troops on the pegs and keep 'em there.
^this.
kneroh
06-14-2012, 07:43 PM
Because fewer child molesters are buying joes.
Untrue! Damn... gotta go!
07GT500 COBRA
06-14-2012, 08:05 PM
Hurry up and finish all the '82-'86 Joes! That's 5 years of figures and it's been 5 years since the 25th line debuted.
Dealer Destro
06-14-2012, 08:07 PM
The only complaint I would have to lodge would be to the retailers for not keeping product stocked with later waves of figures since the 25th runs. I gots no beef with Hasbro these days.
crimsonguard19
06-14-2012, 08:17 PM
I just don't get it. It wasn't that long ago we were paying $6-7 per figure. The detail, paint apps, articulation, and accessories were fantastic. Now the price is up $3-$4 a figure, and the level of quality cannot be maintained?
And stop making them taller. Before we know it, we'll have 5" joes on our hands and the new figures won't fit in any vehicles that already exist, let alone vehicles from the 80s.
Nemesis*Prime
06-14-2012, 08:20 PM
It's been 3 years since they released any COBRA troop builder sets.
Quit canceling all the toys and cartoons!
Scroll142
06-14-2012, 08:55 PM
not enough 25th/30th figs
thank you for my childhood.
hisstank!
A.C.T.
06-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Dope-ass exclusives of 'main' characters only offered through cons and clubs.
spiderpumpkin
06-14-2012, 09:09 PM
The cancellation of the line in 1994.
troublemagnet
06-14-2012, 09:43 PM
1.Bring back smaller playsets like the watchtower,rifle range,bivouac etc.
2.Better distribution/expand into new markets
3.Update classic ARAH characters and invent awesome new ones
4.Bring back file cards and have Larry Hama write them.
5.Bring back flag points and mail-away offers
6.Make a new cartoon series and make it something worth watching
7.Continue to raise the bar in regards to articulation and sculpting.
8.Better quality control-make sure a figure can balance/stand on its own and can properly hold his weapon.
9.Women are a larger part of the military than ever before.This is a potential market that hasn't been tapped into-an alternative "GI Jane" line fully compatiable with the boys line,
10. Make 12 figures that the 4 inch collector will buy-similar to Sideshow but at a much lower price point-I'd love to see a 12 inch Psyche-Out or Dreadnok for example.
Griff
06-14-2012, 09:50 PM
I just don't get it. It wasn't that long ago we were paying $6-7 per figure. The detail, paint apps, articulation, and accessories were fantastic. Now the price is up $3-$4 a figure, and the level of quality cannot be maintained?
And stop making them taller. Before we know it, we'll have 5" joes on our hands and the new figures won't fit in any vehicles that already exist, let alone vehicles from the 80s.
Well said.
Shadow Ninja
06-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Where do I start...lol
I would say POC line was the greatest so they should stay with that!
zedhatch
06-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Too numorious to list, although distro and price are probably the top of the list along with case assortments.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
06-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Consistancy...it takes time to build a damn product, and a following for that product...and YES I know G.I. Joe is a 30 year old property and I get that you want to keep it fresh, but there is NO consistancy in anything G.I. Joe since like 2005.
Ok I will admit that the few years before 2005 were shakey with JvsC, and Spytroops and VvsV...but at least it was consistant.
Since then there have been half hearted attempts at the following...
-Sigma 6
-25th
-ROC
-Resolute
-Renegades
-POC
-30th
-Retaliation
Guys this reads like coke addict spinning a wheel of ideas and changing thoughts midstream.
I mean look back for a minute...
ARAH debuted in 1982...product ran for two years....TWO YEARS BEFORE A CARTOON. And that just propelled it higher and kept the line moving til at least 90...well after the cartoon stopped. And while I think after 1990 the line started to fall apart it still ran for 4 more years. And returned not once but twice more between 97 and 03.
And further more the line is so popular that today the best stuff your putting out is still based on that line.
The other stuff is half thought out...quickly tossed out there and just as quickly yanked. I mean come on neither Resolute or Renegades had product out in time to support that cartoon.
And when fans enjoyed both efforts what were they rewarded with? Cancellation.
spot138
06-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Distribution blows ever since ROC, please do what you can to fix it.
bassistcarlos
06-14-2012, 10:43 PM
Bigger playsets that can hold many figures. Since the ME, there has only been one Playset (the pit) that could handle more than a handfull of figures. There are a lot of new joes with no place to be. Reissues of the TTBP, APC, MCC, HQ's, terrordrome or Flagg would create a need for more figures, or create a use for existing figures.
the odinson
06-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Since then there have been half hearted attempts at the following...
-25th
no way was the 25th line half hearted- it was supposed to be just 2 5 packs and maybe one more wave as a tribute to arah and ended being a shitload of awesome figures that i never thought i'd see updates of.
CobraOfficer999
06-14-2012, 10:57 PM
Advertising, or near total lack of it, when it comes to the Joes. Due to this, the kids aren't aware the line exists, unless their parents have told them about the line.
sparks007
06-14-2012, 11:03 PM
Why won't you hire me to test the toys you make. You suck hasbro unless you send me an email explaining where I can forward you my resume.
manicmotive
06-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Why even keep making toys when everybody hates you and criticizes everything you do?
JesseJames13
06-15-2012, 12:00 AM
I think it would be smart to distribute figures on hasbro's site directly on a supply and demand based system. Imagine grabbing an alpine for the regular retail carded price with zero inflation. It has a demand, so supply it. Throw 300 or so terror dromes on there. If they sell, make some more. Also, stop throwing high demand figures at the cons. Everybody wants one, and you limit the supply? I understand giving something special to people that attend these things, but at the same time everyone else pays the ultra high scalper prices and hasbro doesn't see a dime of the inflation.
Also, unicorns. Pink ones.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
06-15-2012, 12:10 AM
no way was the 25th line half hearted- it was supposed to be just 2 5 packs and maybe one more wave as a tribute to arah and ended being a shitload of awesome figures that i never thought i'd see updates of.
But wasn't it?
I mean it was great line but instead of doing a split line like TF has done for years, and Star Wars has done for years...hell even SPiderman...25th was shelved in favor of the ROC push.
I'm not complaining about the line...in fact I will say the best thing to happen to Joe since he became 3.75 was modern molding and updates on classic versions...but how long did 25th/ME last? 2007-2009, and HONESTLY thats being slightly generous as the 5 packs came as basically a test run to gauge interest, then it kicked off, and they sorta started to peter out before ROC came in...those last few multi packs were not easy to find in most cases so MAYBE the hey day of 25th was a year plus a few months...a year and a half?
Thats not much of a commitment considering ARAH had two years before it even picked up steam and 4 years before it hit its apex at 86...and EIGHT MORE YEARS before it was shelved.
My biggest complaint is that their warehouses are in China, which is absolutely nowhere near me, unless we're talking about planets.
My second biggest complaint is that their warehouses have locks and security detail.
My third biggest complaint is that it would cost more to get there and steal the toys, than it would if I just waited until March 2047, or whenever they're meant to hit shelves.
nerdsgetchicks
06-15-2012, 03:53 AM
they went and got rid of the o-rings
Make your toys repacker proof.
Quit canceling all the toys and cartoons!
The cancellation of the line in 1994.
1.Bring back smaller playsets like the watchtower,rifle range,bivouac etc.
2.Better distribution/expand into new markets
3.Update classic ARAH characters and invent awesome new ones
4.Bring back file cards and have Larry Hama write them.
5.Bring back flag points and mail-away offers
6.Make a new cartoon series and make it something worth watching
7.Continue to raise the bar in regards to articulation and sculpting.
8.Better quality control-make sure a figure can balance/stand on its own and can properly hold his weapon.
9.Women are a larger part of the military than ever before.This is a potential market that hasn't been tapped into-an alternative "GI Jane" line fully compatiable with the boys line,
10. Make 12 figures that the 4 inch collector will buy-similar to Sideshow but at a much lower price point-I'd love to see a 12 inch Psyche-Out or Dreadnok for example.
Advertising, or near total lack of it, when it comes to the Joes. Due to this, the kids aren't aware the line exists, unless their parents have told them about the line.
This pretty much does it!!!
Blaster'spunchingbagg
06-15-2012, 04:02 AM
lack of vision and treating the property like shit
This. Also just to add, have a bit more faith in your brand, stop making characters like Voltar and Zarana super duper rare exclusives, more people want these characters than they think.
txbart
06-15-2012, 04:13 AM
The notion of releasing toys in waves. I say, develop the entire year's line and drop it all at once.
Develop a new distro method that allows for some agility. See what was popular in the initial release and be able to replenish it in a timely manner.
Release vehicles that compliment each other (Cobra air vs. Joe air, Cobra Arctic vs. Joe arctic, etc..)
minstrelboy
06-15-2012, 12:12 PM
I don't really understand waves; it just makes it that much harder to find the figures you want because of a smaller window of availability. I know it was several decades ago, but you could find virtually any figure for months at a time in the heyday of ARAH. And there were so many more to choose from; like a previous poster said as much as Star Wars fills the shelves currently.
Steel_rain501
06-15-2012, 12:22 PM
The notion of releasing toys in waves. I say, develop the entire year's line and drop it all at once.
This! It would be so much easier to collect, In my opinion.
carion
06-15-2012, 01:08 PM
1. Reduce the number of ninja's
2. increase the amount of realistic military vehicles for the Joe team
3. Create more new characters for both the joe team and the Cobra high command.
Griff
06-15-2012, 01:37 PM
1. Reduce the number of ninja's
2. increase the amount of realistic military vehicles for the Joe team
3. Create more new characters for both the joe team and the Cobra high command.
And for heavens sake put female figures back into the line up not as just exclusives or maybe one or two in a movie line up. Helix and Renegades Scarlett and the dvd/2nd joe 5 pack lady jayes were great. Resolute Scarlet had an excellent sculpt (sans the face) and the 25th 3rd cobra 5 pack Baroness was probably one of the most awesome Baroness figures. Just stop making them so petite and tiny...not every woman is a rail thin midget. :D
Kaboomskie
06-17-2012, 07:01 PM
Hasbro,
1. Why do you allow the GIJoe Club to produce good figures instead of producing it for retail yourselves? You could have produced a comic accurate Oktober Guard set as simple as producing a modern Dreadnoks set, but why?
2. Why can't you just give us modern Joes with screws at the back to make it easier for custom making?
3. Can't you just exclude the firing rockets and stands if you really intend to cost cut instead of sacrificing the quality of the figure itself?
SmokePants
06-17-2012, 07:14 PM
Get rid of the waves/case assortments model. Make each case a single figure, so retailers can order based on individual demand.
It is RIDICULOUS that for a retailer to buy more of the figures that sell, they have to buy more of the figures that peg warm. Just ridiculous.
And in the era of ebay, the problem is exacerbated as the secondary market gobbles up the more desirable figures, leaving the bone and sinew of the leftovers to rot.
I understand that there are production and cost amortization reasons behind case assortments, but I say **** those reasons. Figure something else out or watch your business crumble.
Ixz72
06-17-2012, 07:24 PM
I often wonder if the POC/ 30th figures were HASBRO's final aria (or encore for that matter) before they make the GI Joe line take a bow and disappear forever. Now I know the second movie line is still coming out and HASBRO did surprise us with the POC line after ROC and it was like they listen to fan reaction to ROC and cancelled the line and produce a completely new line.
Everything about the POC/30th line was everything fans have asked for. Awesome sculpting, even more articulation, awesome gear. In fact the only thing we could complain about it was it did not last long enough.
It is a giant FUBAR for HASBRO to cancel the POC/30th line to make way for the Retaliation line and with this move to delay the movie plus the launch of the new toys, what will we have for the interim? I am hoping HASBRO will come to their senses and release the rest of the POC line. Though I think it is very unlikely.
Now back to my first question if POC was HASBRO's last aria. The reason I say that is from a line that was top notch to a line with so much BLEH factor. People will say, it's to reduce cost.
I mean companies make stupid mistakes all the time (Netflix fiasco comes into mind). And you have to wonder (and hope) that after the Retaliation line is over, will HASBRO surprise us with again something wonderful, or like the old adage used to say "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away."
DarkParsifal
06-17-2012, 07:30 PM
My biggest complaint about Hasbro regarding GI joe is why no 6 inch ML/DCUC styled scale?? The demand is obviously out there, go ebay 'Marvel Legends GI Joe customs' and see for yourself how many pages of customs pop up and how expensive they are.
I by no means want Hasbro to stop making 3.75 inch joes toys, because I understand the multiple benefits collectors see in collecting in that scale: such as the price, the less space needed for storage and display, the insane amount of simple parts and accessory switch customs you can achieve from figure to figure, not to mention how much more interactive the vehicles and playsets for 3.75 inch figures can be. Also, with the price and size of this scale, one can truly army build. So let me clear, I in no way want that 3.75 action figure world to end for anyone out there.
But can't we 6 inch ML/DCUC, etc. collectors at least get a a few waves of some of the staple, fundamental, fan favorite GI Joe characters in a 6 inch Marvel Legends-esque line? I'm not asking for for all of the many, many side characters or army builder soldiers (even though I'd like them).
Just a few waves that would provide a basic GI Joe / Cobra lineup, like Duke, Scarlett, Flint, Snake Eyes, Tunnel Rat, Roadblock, and Lady Jaye and then Cobra Commander, Destro, Baroness, Storm Shadow Dr. Mindbender, Major Bludd, and Zartan.
On final note, some of the characters would be even easier than Hasbro can realize. If they simply sculpted new heads and then re-used and re-painted some of the mercenary/vigilante/militarized styled bodies found in some of the more recent Marvel Legends releases; we could add highly articulated 6 inch Joes into our collections. Take the Ult. Nick Fury/Punisher/Winter Soldier body. With a new head, new paint job, accesories and maybe a few limb switches, Hasbro could give us a Flint or Duke. Or take the Black Widow/Madame Hydra/Maria Hill body. Again with a new head, paint, accesories, etc. this could make a perfect Scarlett or Baroness. Or the WWII Cap body, with it's officer's uniform look to it could be refigured into a Cobra Commander.
ChaplainAsst
06-17-2012, 07:57 PM
My biggest complaint is that they tolerate the Club and use the Club to distribute highly desired figures for collectors instead of producing themselves. This means a $7-$10 figure costs at LEAST $25 or far more. As much as we might complain about distribution and everything else, it is sad when a fan is unable to add a desired figure to their collection because said figure costs $100 on the secondary market.
No way am I giving away my Hasbro rant that I have prepared for Joe Con
Headman
06-17-2012, 08:03 PM
My biggest complaint is that there are no new Inhumanoid toys.
My biggest complaint is that there are no new Inhumanoid toys.
That would be pretty epic
Snow_Serpent
06-17-2012, 08:06 PM
Soft Plastic on figures and weapons.
Repeater_24
06-17-2012, 08:20 PM
Pick a scale and stick with it. This goes to joes and marvel universe the figures from 3 years ago look to short next to current ones.
Still Wind
06-17-2012, 09:11 PM
My biggest complaint about Hasbro regarding GI joe is why no 6 inch ML/DCUC styled scale?? The demand is obviously out there, go ebay 'Marvel Legends GI Joe customs' and see for yourself how many pages of customs pop up and how expensive they are.
I by no means want Hasbro to stop making 3.75 inch joes toys, because I understand the multiple benefits collectors see in collecting in that scale: such as the price, the less space needed for storage and display, the insane amount of simple parts and accessory switch customs you can achieve from figure to figure, not to mention how much more interactive the vehicles and playsets for 3.75 inch figures can be. Also, with the price and size of this scale, one can truly army build. So let me clear, I in no way want that 3.75 action figure world to end for anyone out there.
But can't we 6 inch ML/DCUC, etc. collectors at least get a a few waves of some of the staple, fundamental, fan favorite GI Joe characters in a 6 inch Marvel Legends-esque line? I'm not asking for for all of the many, many side characters or army builder soldiers (even though I'd like them).
Just a few waves that would provide a basic GI Joe / Cobra lineup, like Duke, Scarlett, Flint, Snake Eyes, Tunnel Rat, Roadblock, and Lady Jaye and then Cobra Commander, Destro, Baroness, Storm Shadow Dr. Mindbender, Major Bludd, and Zartan.
On final note, some of the characters would be even easier than Hasbro can realize. If they simply sculpted new heads and then re-used and re-painted some of the mercenary/vigilante/militarized styled bodies found in some of the more recent Marvel Legends releases; we could add highly articulated 6 inch Joes into our collections. Take the Ult. Nick Fury/Punisher/Winter Soldier body. With a new head, new paint job, accesories and maybe a few limb switches, Hasbro could give us a Flint or Duke. Or take the Black Widow/Madame Hydra/Maria Hill body. Again with a new head, paint, accesories, etc. this could make a perfect Scarlett or Baroness. Or the WWII Cap body, with it's officer's uniform look to it could be refigured into a Cobra Commander.
Totally agree, love the idea of troop builders, vipers and greenshirts!
On final note, some of the characters would be even easier than Hasbro can realize. If they simply sculpted new heads and then re-used and re-painted some of the mercenary/vigilante/militarized styled bodies found in some of the more recent Marvel Legends releases; we could add highly articulated 6 inch Joes into our collections. Take the Ult. Nick Fury/Punisher/Winter Soldier body. With a new head, new paint job, accesories and maybe a few limb switches, Hasbro could give us a Flint or Duke. Or take the Black Widow/Madame Hydra/Maria Hill body. Again with a new head, paint, accesories, etc. this could make a perfect Scarlett or Baroness. Or the WWII Cap body, with it's officer's uniform look to it could be refigured into a Cobra Commander.
There might be a licensing issue with using Marvel/Disney's designs for a GI Joe line. Hasbro probably only has the license to use Marvel/Disney designs for respective merchandise.
Headman
06-17-2012, 09:31 PM
The bathrooms at walmart stink.
The bathrooms at walmart stink.
Not in my experience.
AlecZeal1989
06-17-2012, 10:06 PM
The fact that they seem to want children to buy their product, but they still seem to only cater to collectors.
Either do a real reboot of GI Joe and get behind it for the kiddies, or get your shite together and come up with a better way to distribute to the collectors.
sbwy80
06-17-2012, 10:09 PM
I think they need to keep the movie toys and 25/30th style separate. Hasbro did not flood the Marvel Universe line with Thor, Iron Man and Capt. America figures when those movies were released. So why stop production of one line to put out another?
It does not seem cost effective to me.
They need to get rid of Transformers, and relegate that whole budget back to GI Joe. I mean, who the hell buys Transformers anyway? *scoffs*
I buy Transformers.
46 Zone
06-18-2012, 01:31 AM
Am I going to have to look at the same pegs full of Ret. RB, SS, and SE from now until March of next year? Will it be like this for X-mas? That's my biggest complaint.
Steelgrave
06-18-2012, 01:47 AM
The Sci-Fi wave. Where the #*%$! is it???
Lord Vokk
06-18-2012, 02:33 AM
My biggest complaint is Lack of Coordination of the line.
In today's market you have to deliver the full entertainment package....The toys sales is just a physical representation of some other (or more) entertainment outlet.
You can put out a toyline and cartoon that is in complete mismatch of one another.
All facets of the entertainment package have to come together in prefect harmony in this age.
LV
Female figures without removable shirts. I mean there are countless figures with removable webgear, but they never give webgear to the females. So it's only logical to make their shirts removable.
RuckusJr
06-18-2012, 02:40 AM
The Sci-Fi wave. Where the #*%$! is it???
You need a Scifi?
RuckusJr
06-18-2012, 02:42 AM
The bathrooms at walmart stink.
Especially since the urinals now are the no-flush kind. They rely on chemicals to take away the odor and they just don't cut it.
mrcobra
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Bring GI Joe over to the UK.
Ripcord
06-18-2012, 07:55 PM
Case packing. Don't keep putting the same characters in different waves. Hasbro does it with Joe and Star Wars.
blackman2005
06-18-2012, 08:06 PM
Poor Distribution!
We consistently raise this concern to their attention each Q & A and nothing changes. This year has to be the worst across all Hasbro action figure lines since many of them are not being restocked regularly or have been temporarily discontinued for most of this year thus far.
Python_Puckman
06-18-2012, 08:17 PM
Especially since the urinals now are the no-flush kind. They rely on chemicals to take away the odor and they just don't cut it.
Half the toilets seem no-flush as well
Python_Puckman
06-18-2012, 08:20 PM
Poor Distribution!
We consistently raise this concern to their attention each Q & A and nothing changes. This year has to be the worst across all Hasbro action figure lines since many of them are not being restocked regularly or have been temporarily discontinued for most of this year thus far.
This is my biggest gripe as well. It is much too hard to pick up a complete wave by only shopping retail stores.
Case packs for both GI Joe and Star Wars suck. That's completely Hasbro's own fault, and they don't seem to want to fix it.
Other than that, I wish they'd just quit trying to make movies and TV shows when they obviously don't work. It'd be great if they just went back to the way they were doing the 25th line, with awesome card art and vehicles that didn't suck, and also didn't have any media tie-in other than a comic series. It seemed to sell better as a smaller line, instead of something that gets an endcap at Targets nationwide.
I wish they'd demand a basic competency test from their consumers before they are allowed to buy toys.
So you want to stop collecting ?
vapor
06-19-2012, 02:34 AM
my biggest complaint is that after five yrs they still havnt moved past 87" figs and for me all the good ones came between 87-91 so after all the repaints and crap they have given us along with the long ass hiatus's and poorly distributed product i give up, fuck hasbro. they dont care about us as collectors because if they did they would have kept poc going.
Hawkeye
06-19-2012, 02:37 AM
Dear Hasbro:
Get the new figures in my stores.
Take my money damn you!
DR.Sin
06-19-2012, 04:47 AM
The Sci-Fi wave. Where the #*%$! is it???
Sci FI wave?! What about the Storm Shadow wave. Well, I know he really is the only one left out of the wave 4 case but honestly. Wait?! what about the the distribution of the last 3 waves of POC. I hate seeing a picture, that still haunts me today, of a canadian toysrus with about 300 figures when at the time all my retail stores combined couldn't get that in and that is like 13 stores.
So lets see here; distribution, cancellations, cheaping of brand with launchers instead of other accessories, and exclusive con or fan club figures that should be part of the main line. These are my big concerns.
ShockVal
06-19-2012, 05:06 AM
Venomous Maximus has not been made ME style.
DaSmokeEater
06-19-2012, 07:58 AM
I want new vehicle designs and Joes to go with them, not rehashes of old molds with characters who are approaching geriatric service to their country. Keep it kid friendly, they'll be collectors in 20 years too.
sparhawk
06-19-2012, 08:14 AM
Poc. Should be the standard across all their lines. And all lines should get the.retail push. More sold product is more $. Less product. Less $.
d16punk
06-19-2012, 08:46 AM
I would say distribution is at the top of the list. I work for Toysrus and the Pursuit of Cobra distribution was horrific. We had gotten a decent amount of the first 2 waves. We got the 3rd wave in I called a buddy, he came in and bought the case. Never received that wave again. Wave 4 never even made it to the store. If I want to go to Target or Wal-mart all I see is empty pegs.
The price point is terrible too. Here in NY TRU's want 11.49 a figure. For a figure that has come down in quality none-the less.
However I think they did something right by releasing the basic wave of GI Joes. However again distribution so far has been pretty bad.
I would love to see a basic wave at any of the big stores for $6 and then have a deluxe figure (Figure and big accessory/small vehicle) for $10.
I'm just gonna stop there.
If you could sound off to Hasbro and have ONE thing changed about the modern GI Joe product lines, what would it be? Before the arrival of Retaliation toys, my answer would have hands down been "larger distribution numbers/increased availability." However, the new line makes me want to say "return to POC-type styling and articulation, while the cheapskate in me says "lower price point."
But when all is said and done, distribution and availability are still my biggest complaint. Even if brick and mortar stores won't carry them, why doesn't Hasbro's own online retail store keep things stocked. More and more often I have to turn to other online resources, and the inflated prices there keeps depriving my collection of figures I'd gladly pay for at more reasonable retail prices. I feel this is the consensus for most of the community here, but maybe I'm wrong. How do you feel?
My biggest complaint is that they've decided to take their business model from the scalpers. They've gotten in bed with that mindset and made it institutional.
Black Llama
06-19-2012, 09:01 AM
Cold hands. Also, last time, I'm petty sure that wasn't just a finger....
http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Prostate-Exam.jpg
Jim_Beutel
06-19-2012, 09:25 AM
My biggest concern is marketing. I'd love to see Hasbro market the line to kids, and the easiest way is commercials. There are enough kids channels on TV that Hasbro could put commercials for the toys on, showing kids playing with the toys like they did back in the 80's. A tie in video game would help too, since kids are big into video games. Dumping KREO, and working out a LEGO tie in game would probably be ideal. Keep in mind, marketing to kids is going to keep spring loaded accessories in with the figures, because they add play value.
Distribution is a deeper problem. Stores (the big distribution centers, not necessarily the individual retail location) don't want to order large quantities of Joe product, because they remember sitting on lots of it when RoC didn't sell as well as hoped. Case assortment will probably always be a problem; it's hard to anticipate what is going to sell well. Just "making more and shipping out in new cases isn't a good option; the cost per figure is going to be more to make a smaller number of one figure, and making them doesn't guarantee orders from retailers; so Hasbro is hesitant to do that. I don't blame them.
Complaining about retail price doesn't help. It's more than just the manufacturing cost - it costs more to ship cards and packaging materials to the factory, costs more to ship cases to the ports, costs more to ship overseas by cargo ship, costs more to go through Customs, costs more to ship from the port to distribution center, costs more to ship from distribution to retailer's distribution warehouse, and more to ship from retailer distribution center to retail location. And everyone has to make a little profit. The costs get passed to us. I don't like it either, but there are two choices - buy what you want, or don't. I HAVE to buy food, clothes, shelter. I don't HAVE to buy Joes.
crock master
06-19-2012, 09:26 AM
dear hasbro, your customers are buttholes
VideoViper
06-19-2012, 09:28 AM
You Don't Love Me Anymore (Weird Al) Animated - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgygkWe_Hlg)
Jim_Beutel
06-19-2012, 10:30 AM
Llama, that wasn't a finger. It was E.T.
GeneralxRon
06-19-2012, 10:55 AM
I have no complaints for Hasbro. Just stay in Business
orezona
06-19-2012, 10:59 AM
The Red Ninja zip lines are awesome! Nice work on those.
...oh wait, I read that as 'Your largest COMPLIMENT to Hasbro'...
arlichar
06-19-2012, 11:11 AM
more females needed, and should have worked with the movies creators to make more accurate joe movie...with lifesize version of the toys
PinewoodCobra
06-19-2012, 11:30 AM
1. Better access to later waves
2. Bring back playsets
3. New characters keep things fresh
4. Case assortments need more than one of a troop builder
Knight-Owl
06-19-2012, 11:38 AM
Availability.
turner
06-19-2012, 11:46 AM
Just make two more great 7 packs that finish up the main updates from the 25th line. Accurately (like sci-fi and airtight, and with helmets that fit and the right gear including the clear visors) update the vintage guys starting with 1982, especially breaker, clutch, rock n roll, steeler, and short fuze.
Then continue to stick with the lousiest re-imagined, non-articulated, movie-related junk you can, so I can be done with collecting joes and spending money on it.
Veedox
06-19-2012, 11:56 AM
Availabilty, and figure ratios in the cases that do actually make it to the shelves.
Lantern_Lad
06-19-2012, 12:32 PM
I wish something like this would make a difference... but honestly they'd probably just view it as 'stupid Joe collectors are complaining again'.
I mean, really, it's what we do as a collected group, more than anything. And now it falls on deaf ears... at least before there was the Q&A where we could voice our concerns (when the leaders of the various forums submitting questions were brave enough to take a stand and ask the tough questions). But now we don't even have that.
Interested to see what is said at Joe Con... and I wish I was there to hear the response.
Shipshape1983
06-19-2012, 01:02 PM
I despise the new style of ankle articulation.
Just got the joe trooper and he's great! cept for the ankles
hmmm....as it turns out, his ankles CAN go forward and back, not just side to side.
so I take it back.
KP Viper
06-19-2012, 01:14 PM
If it can only be one complaint, then distribution by a wide, wide margin. I'd happily spend more money if I could actually find any figures.
CrimsonGuard101
06-19-2012, 01:48 PM
If it can only be one complaint, then distribution by a wide, wide margin. I'd happily spend more money if I could actually find any figures.
Distribution really is not Hasbro's issue though...that is all on retail..and what product they buy from Hasbro and then ship it to its stores and then ultimatley stock reorder and keep it stocked...the only thing Hasbro could do to help with this is quite retiring waves so quickly and re-release prior waves over and over again at intervals like they do with MU through out the year and the next and then the next and so forth...mix up wave assortments or something...retail misses so many waves due to waves 1-2 with just about every oline and by the time they go to re-order its chirstmas and wave 5 with hasbro...
Riotheory
06-19-2012, 01:58 PM
My main complaint at this moment is ugly chicks with chicken legs. If a customizer can make a decent female head in a basement, the power of Hasbro ought to be able to do some, too.
R.
Darth_Risar
06-19-2012, 03:21 PM
Hire some people to who actually know how a toy company is supposed to work. I swear sometimes it seems like they are trying to bankrupt the company, Merrill and Stephen would be pissed at the way the company is being run, and with the way Joe is being treated.
sonoftimmy
06-19-2012, 03:39 PM
Distribution, and it is Hasbro's fault. I think Hasbro is pretty good at getting the cases to retail on time and when needed (although sometimes they fail here). The real distribution problem is case packing. Poor case packing will keep stores from reordering. If they have peg warmers in case after case retail will end up not being able to sell figures and will not reorder. It’s that simple and it happens across all Hasbro lines I collect MU, SW and Joe. I don’t understand how Hasbro makes this same mistake over and over for years and years now.
IRON VIPER
06-19-2012, 04:03 PM
I definately would like to see them send out more Joes.
KP Viper
06-20-2012, 10:06 AM
Distribution really is not Hasbro's issue though...that is all on retail..and what product they buy from Hasbro and then ship it to its stores and then ultimatley stock reorder and keep it stocked...the only thing Hasbro could do to help with this is quite retiring waves so quickly and re-release prior waves over and over again at intervals like they do with MU through out the year and the next and then the next and so forth...mix up wave assortments or something...retail misses so many waves due to waves 1-2 with just about every oline and by the time they go to re-order its chirstmas and wave 5 with hasbro...
I agree distribution is handled by retail. But Hasbro reps are walking into stores, seeing empty pegs, and they have absolutely no way to see about getting those pegs filled? If Hasbro is that powerless and doesn't have any way in its agreements with retailers to get product in the stores, that's a problem in and of itself.
Darth_Risar
06-20-2012, 01:51 PM
I agree with the poster about having solid packs of characters, that way box space wouldn't be taken up with characters that either won't sell as much or as fast. I don't think it would be to difficult to domething like this, or even a split case of 2 characters. When I worked at Wal-mart I have on more than one occasion gotten multiple boxes of the same wave assortment at once, the record was 18 cases of Star Wars Vintage, So it is something that could be done.
the odinson
06-20-2012, 01:54 PM
all this talk of 'hasblo' yet i see nothing getting blown. wtf, hasblo?
minstrelboy
06-30-2012, 04:37 PM
All I ask is that Hasbrotoyshop.com keep Joe figures in stock.
Saboteur
06-30-2012, 05:16 PM
I agree distribution is handled by retail. But Hasbro reps are walking into stores, seeing empty pegs, and they have absolutely no way to see about getting those pegs filled? If Hasbro is that powerless and doesn't have any way in its agreements with retailers to get product in the stores, that's a problem in and of itself.
Bingo.
MrHateAol
06-30-2012, 06:12 PM
Just now my biggest gripe is those stupid-ass little Micro Force pieces of shit. Who's the low-end junior exec in Hasbro who thought that would make a good idea? They are butt-ugly, don't comfortably sell to any particular market, and are basically just using up plastic that could be going to better projects.
But Hasbro needn't listen to me, they can go into dollar General and Big Lots and so forth and pick up those stupid little super-deformed ROC toys that NOBODY wanted, and ask the retail clerk what she thinks about those.
I'm seriously beginning to lose my faith in this company.
At one point, anything can be a hot cake.
http://i.imgur.com/OLwNA.jpg
helrod
06-30-2012, 10:00 PM
Why so many complaints???
that's my question to Hasbro and complaint.
with so many about them I'm beginning to think they are doing something wrong...You think they would think the same.
My only real complaint to Hasbro is that I wish they would be more consistant with the G.I. Joe line. They've had like six different cards over the last three years, and a couple different styles of figures. The only one that was out of place was the Renegades stuff. But I took that more as a nod to the fans than anything. I think the Retaliation stuff fits in fine with the ROC and POC stuff, so they should just settle on one iconic look for the packaging for all of it. Kind of like how they did for the Avengers movie stuff, just put "Comic" or "Movie" stickers on it to denote where the figure was inspired from.
I don't care if we are an ADD-riddled society. Having one look would benefit the line. It doesn't bother me if the movie figures come with spring loaded stuff, or if certain figures have less articulation. Just present it better.
whitefox360
06-30-2012, 10:45 PM
My only real complaint to Hasbro is that I wish they would be more consistant with the G.I. Joe line. They've had like six different cards over the last three years, and a couple different styles of figures. The only one that was out of place was the Renegades stuff. But I took that more as a nod to the fans than anything. I think the Retaliation stuff fits in fine with the ROC and POC stuff, so they should just settle on one iconic look for the packaging for all of it. Kind of like how they did for the Avengers movie stuff, just put "Comic" or "Movie" stickers on it to denote where the figure was inspired from.
I don't care if we are an ADD-riddled society. Having one look would benefit the line. It doesn't bother me if the movie figures come with spring loaded stuff, or if certain figures have less articulation. Just present it better.
I dont think we'll see consistency in anything till something joe related makes the kids go crazy.
Tauron
06-30-2012, 10:50 PM
My complaint would be to finish what you start before moving on to something new. Not that I didn't enjoy the POC/30th line and understand if a movie line interrupts a product line for a few months but why roll out new non movie stuff before finishing the 25th line? I would have loved to get every 82-89 figure on the original card art and I'm sure some of the younger fans would have loved the 25th line to go beyond that. I don't think the original 13 on a classic card would have been asking too much.
My only other complaint would be when Hasbro has the parts to available to make a character properly yet doesn't use them. Green shirt Duke was ok but you guys couldn't have slapped a Grand Slam head on that bad boy and gave me a better Grunt than that TRU 3 pack junk. I don't expect a new sculpt be made to create a figure but if the parts are there use them.
DarkParsifal
08-24-2012, 03:27 PM
My new largest complaint to Hasbro......HURRY UP ALREADY WITH MARVEL LEGENDS WAVE 3!!!! This is a wave comprised entirely of repainted released figures or retooled bodies with new heads, and there's no BAF.
I mean I understand it takes time for factories to produce mass quantities, but come on already, I'm sick of waiting
vermillion21
08-24-2012, 10:12 PM
... I'm seriously beginning to lose my faith in this company.
^ With respect to the Joe brand, agreed.
blackman2005
08-24-2012, 10:21 PM
Distribution and Consistency across all action figure lines are my major complaint....
figureware
08-24-2012, 10:43 PM
Id start with complaining in the form of a question...Shouldn't you make and or release toys in order to claim yourselves to be an actual toy company...and any other toys you release I don't really care about..because were talking about GI Joe! (you know the one thats been around for decades and is as recognizable a franchise as Barbie, Hotwheels, Star Wars and the effing Slinky yet all of those toys are on an actual aisle but GI Joes are no where to be found except at conventions and club subscriptions for ballooned prices?
Fire_Fly
08-24-2012, 10:49 PM
Wheres kwinn????????????????????????????????
Steelgrave
08-24-2012, 10:55 PM
I'm not one to complain.
crock master
08-24-2012, 11:12 PM
I won't complain. I like that stuff is hard to find. That is what keeps me collecting.
C.I.A.D.
08-24-2012, 11:15 PM
I'm not one to complain.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x341/CIWE-2011/2747eaaf.jpg
:D
jestermon
08-24-2012, 11:47 PM
Sad thing is how every toy line seems to hardly be stocked anywhere.
Steelgrave
08-24-2012, 11:51 PM
Sad thing is how every toy line seems to hardly be stocked anywhere.
It's the new strategy. Don't stock any toys so all the kids will run over to electronics & pick up Fall Of Cybertron & the Battleship dvd.
Cobra MuleKick
08-25-2012, 12:02 AM
The downfall to toys in general is kids are into Video Games. The market for toys has dwindled over the last 5-6 years.
This is also my first post so take it easy on me
jestermon
08-25-2012, 12:20 AM
I agree it's sad that they even try to have a toy section atleast just scald it down and keep those isles/sections full.
Vance1714
08-25-2012, 12:29 AM
Pack the FREAKING cases better. And take note of what us as collectors want, RELEASE the figures that are in HIGH demand.
gruppenfuhrer88
08-25-2012, 12:37 AM
The problem is that these action figures have become too collector oriented. The detail and the articulation of these figures are state-of-the-art imo and are pretty pricey. Without proper marketing ie, movies, tv, a Joe video game and so forth, parents aren't going to drop $10 plus on figure they don't know about or even their kids know about for that matter. Hasbro is scaling back on all of its lines and thinking of new ways to produce things cheaper.
The golden age of action figures has reached its peak. We will see more and more figures with less detail and articulation that we have grown accustomed to and get back to a more kid driven market. Meaning less and producing more. And in some cases, the death of some lines as well. Star Wars Clone wars has already started this pattern as well as the Star Wars vintage line.
No complaints here on my end, just be happy with the Joe stuff you can get now because it won't last forever. If the movie doesn't do well next year, I'm calling it now, be prepared for a long hiatus of the line. Just my 2 cents worth.
cobratrooperlui
08-25-2012, 03:17 AM
If you could sound off to Hasbro and have ONE thing changed about the modern GI Joe product lines, what would it be? Before the arrival of Retaliation toys, my answer would have hands down been "larger distribution numbers/increased availability." However, the new line makes me want to say "return to POC-type styling and articulation, while the cheapskate in me says "lower price point."
But when all is said and done, distribution and availability are still my biggest complaint. Even if brick and mortar stores won't carry them, why doesn't Hasbro's own online retail store keep things stocked. More and more often I have to turn to other online resources, and the inflated prices there keeps depriving my collection of figures I'd gladly pay for at more reasonable retail prices. I feel this is the consensus for most of the community here, but maybe I'm wrong. How do you feel?
I agree completely. The distribution and availability are not good at all. Back when the 25th anniversary came out I thought they had pretty good distribution, I loved going to Target, Kmart, and Toys R Us. I was able to get my whole collection like that. I remember I would talk to the employees at the stores and the would tell me that they couldn't keep them on the pegs. They would restock and like in two days they where gone but they would keep restocking them. Now you go to these stores and if you do happen to find some Joes they are the same figure. WTF! How do they expect people to buy Joes when they only carry one character.
cobratrooperlui
08-25-2012, 03:46 AM
The problem is that these action figures have become too collector oriented. The detail and the articulation of these figures are state-of-the-art imo and are pretty pricey. Without proper marketing ie, movies, tv, a Joe video game and so forth, parents aren't going to drop $10 plus on figure they don't know about or even their kids know about for that matter. Hasbro is scaling back on all of its lines and thinking of new ways to produce things cheaper.
The golden age of action figures has reached its peak. We will see more and more figures with less detail and articulation that we have grown accustomed to and get back to a more kid driven market. Meaning less and producing more. And in some cases, the death of some lines as well. Star Wars Clone wars has already started this pattern as well as the Star Wars vintage line.
No complaints here on my end, just be happy with the Joe stuff you can get now because it won't last forever. If the movie doesn't do well next year, I'm calling it now, be prepared for a long hiatus of the line. Just my 2 cents worth.
I really don't think action figures have reached there peak. You where right when you said, "Without proper marketing..." But I don't think by just putting a movie out or cartoon or video game it will make a difference. It has to be quality, I mean they put out a lame movie that nobody cared about. Not even Steven Sommers cared enough about it to find out what G.I.Joe was really about before getting involved in his own movie. My kids (I have an eight and twelve year old) are not even remotely interested in Sigma 6 or Renegades.
Back in the 80's Marvel developed the characters, made the comic books and together with Sunbow made the cartoons while Hasbro made the toys. That was excellent marketing but quality was what made the big difference. They did such a excellent job that the people that where interested back then are still interested today. My kids are interested in G.I.Joe today because they watch the old Sunbow cartoons.
I wonder what would happen to G.I.Joe if Hasbro worked with Marvel again...
Shortfuse
08-25-2012, 03:52 AM
1. No more Snake-Eyes, Duke, Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander for at least 2 years. Make it so we actually WANT them again. Or if don't make the SE and SS's based on the vintage versions that we actually want only available in regional dollar stores.
2. I'd like to see more of the later 80's early 90's figures get an update.
3. Since larger vehicles are probably not gonna happen how about new 25th versions of things like the Locust copter or the MAGGOT. The Badger, Desert Fox, Vamp mk2, or the mini playsets.
atomsmasher
08-25-2012, 04:23 AM
1. I want those 12 inch figures back that use to look like units in the past. I want a new Hasbro world war one dough boy largely cause I haven't bought one yet. i should do that.
Steelgrave
08-25-2012, 06:43 AM
The downfall to toys in general is kids are into Video Games.
Unfortunately I'm one of them. GI Joe is pretty much over IMO, they beat Star Wars, Marvel & DC into the ground, I'm sick of Transformers & look what they did with Thundercats. I hardly ever watch movies anymore & I never ever watch TV. To me, the only thing that still totally kicks ass are video games.
If I had to choose my toys or my Xbox, I'm keeping the Xbox. I'll take Mass Effect over my toys any day.
Steelgrave
08-25-2012, 06:48 AM
I'm not one to complain.
What happened? Where is everybody? ^I set that up perfectly! Only C.I.A.D. caught it. Where are all the guys that always give me shit about complaining too much?
figureware
08-25-2012, 07:44 AM
We all Love you too much Steelgrave...admiting you have a problem is the first step...were just really proud of you right now! (weep,weep)
PFunk
08-25-2012, 08:03 AM
Distribution.
Everything that is being found at retail should have been available at HTS. I don't mind online shopping. People can say, 'it's about the chase' all they like, I deal with enough rude and uninformed people at stores to become very comfortable with the notion of letting FedEx and UPS spend their gas money instead of me.
There are a few little vehicles I want to convert to modern figure use and I will probably continue to make Marauder John wealthy, but my collection is pretty much complete.
Havok
08-25-2012, 08:14 AM
I think another poster mentioned a possible education in ordering waves, so early waves don't become peg Warmers, and later waves will get purchased due to sell outs in previous waves. I think that is an excellent point in theory. However, it may be difficult to gage in every market due to a variety of factors including interst in the brand in a particular region. But, even just a pamphlet outlining some key points in ordering a line may have some benefit.
I think the biggest determining factor for us seeing more product, is simply for the brand to do well. If the movie and movie line coming out does well, hasbro will be able to release more figures collectors want as a result.
figureware
08-25-2012, 10:09 AM
This past year there was an weird video game and figure tie in (I think "Skylanders" or something like that?) I checked it our for my nephew and was quickly put off by the outlandish prices. In a seperate instance I was at Target and overheard a lil boy complain to his mom that they did not have Joes he wanted. I also heard them mention his dad a few times. ( as in his dad collects or was a Joe fan as a kid) I thought maybe If GI Joe had a video game tie in...but free? The game can be down loaded and each figure builds up characters. Look Im not a marketer so Id let those guys work it out.
Kaboomskie
08-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Give us b-list characters..sa damn tired of core characters.
minstrelboy
08-25-2012, 10:29 AM
Distribution.
Everything that is being found at retail should have been available at HTS. I don't mind online shopping. People can say, 'it's about the chase' all they like, I deal with enough rude and uninformed people at stores to become very comfortable with the notion of letting FedEx and UPS spend their gas money instead of me.
There are a few little vehicles I want to convert to modern figure use and I will probably continue to make Marauder John wealthy, but my collection is pretty much complete.
I agree. I had come to depend on HTS during 25th/ME for what I couldn't find at the store, but after ROC, they just didn't seem to keep much in stock. When it became harder and harder to find things at retail and prices increased, it just became too hard. I want to keep collecting, but when it becomes practically impossible to find, let alone pay for, I don't see how I can.
CobraOfficer999
08-25-2012, 10:47 AM
Shitty distribution; Overproduction and oversaturation of the core characters in the market place; we really don't need another version of CC, Destro, Duke or SS/SE. Most of us already have a few versions of the core characters, which is part of the reason figs like Artic Destro have been shelfwarming for years. To make us less bored, they need to put a hold on the core characters for a few years, and start giving us updates on figs like Chun Li, Barricade, Salvo, and Headman. I addition, releasing previously unproduced figs like Kwinn, Billy, or Dr. Burkhart would also breath new life into the line.
edhellman
08-25-2012, 10:57 AM
give us IDW inspired designs. If they want the comics to be popular they need to advertise them better with the toys. If people read the comics then they will buy more toys. It works both ways.
Plus some of what IDW is doing is amazing.
Steelgrave
08-25-2012, 12:02 PM
We all Love you too much Steelgrave...admiting you have a problem is the first step...were just really proud of you right now! (weep,weep)
I have a lot of problems, they're called humans. And this stupid fucking money/employment system that they created that never worked right & never will work right.
89PILOT
08-25-2012, 12:10 PM
Complaint to Hasbro......mmm.........might have to think about this for a while!!!lol
Hasbro,you make some really cool stuff,but don't release enough of it!!!
Hasbro,you make some really shit stuff and release too much of it!!!
Hasbro,you are stupid as f**k!!!!! But you're my friend and I love you ;-p
shockwave71
08-25-2012, 01:26 PM
I suppose my biggest gripe Joe-wise would be distribution, as I'm relatively pleased with the figures I have purchased throughout the years.
mikevoltz
08-25-2012, 02:04 PM
New Scuplts instead of repainting the same old scults. Fill in the weapons and other parts instead of hollow missles and guns. Get rid of the Ridiculously large and pointless missile launchers. Put out either Real world Vehicles or Innovate and put out something new. ie. the Joes need a new fighter Jet instead of rehashing the since Retired F-14. (Put out an F-35 VTOL Fighter) The Night Raven was an embarrassment. Release a Cobra Fighter that isn't full of gimmicks (SU-27) would be a good start. No more Lasers and Plasma guns. Bullets and if you want to High Tech: Rail Guns!
Ultimate Jaburg
08-25-2012, 02:18 PM
My largest complaint is that I can't find their toys on the shelve.
I love their product when I can get it.
Steevy Maximus
08-25-2012, 08:25 PM
give us IDW inspired designs. If they want the comics to be popular they need to advertise them better with the toys. If people read the comics then they will buy more toys. It works both ways.
Plus some of what IDW is doing is amazing.
Comics are not popular, period. Even the BIGGEST titles (of which Joe certainly is NOT) struggle pushing 75,000 copies, and Joe's average is in the 15K range.
If kids aren't rushing out to pick up Batman or Spider-Man, they sure as hell aren't rushing out for GI Joe.
The only ones who care about the comics are fans...who tend to congregate around fan sites which already cover them.
Mr Hebime
08-25-2012, 08:33 PM
Seeing all positive reviews the custom retaliation vehicles get, why not go with original color designs or more realistic military paint decos. The bright colors really make a nice looking vehicle look like crap. Better sticker designs would be a plus too. And with all the figure molds available, why not reuse current ones intead of making new 5 point articulation duds.
mjrjoefan
08-25-2012, 08:39 PM
I want to be able to diplay my figures I have said this before I want Battle stands. I do not care about lauching missles and dumb gimmicks. I still have yet to find a Sci-fi, Airtight, or zombie viper. So I would definitely say distrubution is a big problem. The order In which I want my action figure to have things is articulation, tons of accessories, and a BATTLE STAND!! and of course maybe a new or not re-used character such as Duke, Snake eyes, or Storm Shadow..GRRR
Mr Hebime
08-25-2012, 08:48 PM
I want to be able to diplay my figures I have said this before I want Battle stands. I do not care about lauching missles and dumb gimmicks. I still have yet to find a Sci-fi, Airtight, or zombie viper. So I would definitely say distrubution is a big problem. The order In which I want my action figure to have things is articulation, tons of accessories, and a BATTLE STAND!! and of course maybe a new or not re-used character such as Duke, Snake eyes, or Storm Shadow..GRRR
^^^^ What he said!
Reverend Blood
08-25-2012, 09:22 PM
I have a lot of problems, they're called humans. And this stupid fucking money/employment system that they created that never worked right & never will work right.
Socialism for everyone!
redx24
08-25-2012, 09:27 PM
5 more dukes all tatum heads
CrimsonTwins
08-25-2012, 09:30 PM
25th DVD packs...specifically, well, you can figure it out. If not, just ask my friend Al Pine.
Uninvited Ghost
08-25-2012, 09:35 PM
I've got ninety-nine problems, and Hasbro ain't one.
vermillion21
08-25-2012, 11:46 PM
Pack the FREAKING cases better. And take note of what us as collectors want, RELEASE the figures that are in HIGH demand.
^ ditto
Dunedain
08-26-2012, 12:06 AM
Hasbro do everything we want, whenever we want it, no matter what it is, ok, !!!!!!!!!!
bitetheasp
08-26-2012, 12:37 AM
Everything shown in the concept vault better make it to retail!
Pretty please?
Narnia
08-26-2012, 01:22 AM
I wish they would bring out more Shock Troopers, I bought every one I ever saw and I still don't have enough.
Dem_Yoe'z!
08-26-2012, 01:28 AM
These are my top 2
1-Bring back articulation and accessories!
2-Stop the "core character" BS
Jinx723
08-26-2012, 01:52 AM
I could spend all night discussing my complaints about Hasbro. Though, I'm sure they have been mentioned in the pass 18 pages I haven't read.
Hasbro should just end the G.I. Joe brand. It's never going to be the hit it was in the '80s. Hasbro themselves are killing the Joe brand. They're never going to stop releasing the core characters, and we're never going to get what we want (figure-wise). Forget vehicles, it's too expensive for them. I mean come on they're constantly re-releasing HISS 5&6, Vamp MarkII, and AWE Striker. Action figures, toys in general have reached their peak.
I love G.I. Joe, but the fun of it all is just gone. Prices are ridiculous, you can't find the toys in the stores and Hollywood just butchers the Joe brand. Hasbro, thank you for the past 5 years. 25th Anniversary was only to be 15 figures and look where we are today. I'll enjoy what I have, but honestly Hasbro just needs to let Joe go.
psb81
08-26-2012, 02:46 AM
#1 would be distribution. I never found half of POC at retail and that is pathetic for a major property of the largest toy manufactuer.
#2 would be giving GIJoeCC characters never released (Darklon, Voltar, Big Boa, Dice, the cancelled IGs in the con set) to sell at a super inflated rate.
DR.Sin
08-26-2012, 04:45 AM
I could spend all night discussing my complaints about Hasbro. Though, I'm sure they have been mentioned in the pass 18 pages I haven't read.
Hasbro should just end the G.I. Joe brand. It's never going to be the hit it was in the '80s. Hasbro themselves are killing the Joe brand. They're never going to stop releasing the core characters, and we're never going to get what we want (figure-wise). Forget vehicles, it's too expensive for them. I mean come on they're constantly re-releasing HISS 5&6, Vamp MarkII, and AWE Striker. Action figures, toys in general have reached their peak.
I love G.I. Joe, but the fun of it all is just gone. Prices are ridiculous, you can't find the toys in the stores and Hollywood just butchers the Joe brand. Hasbro, thank you for the past 5 years. 25th Anniversary was only to be 15 figures and look where we are today. I'll enjoy what I have, but honestly Hasbro just needs to let Joe go.
I fully agree with this. This kind of thinking would save me money as well. I already have too many figures as is. Then I am looking at next year and thinking,"oh here we go again."
Our brand is being dragged through the mud by the people who created it. I will never give up my love for the many cool products from this toyline. I just hate to see things go out like they have been.
blackman2005
08-26-2012, 12:01 PM
I don't understand the need to appeal to kids for a toybrand thats been successful for over 30 years!
Its not about cost gotdamnit, give us quality product at a price necessary to cover your company's cost + profit and we will buy it. Its pretty damn simple. Kids have multiple things to keep them occupied such as the internet, video games and cartoons. Action Figures are not as high on the totem pool for entertainment for children. So cost should no longer be a sensitive driving factor behind making Joes. The brand, which prides itself on play themed vehicles, playsets and heavily articulated figures should not change a strategy that has worked for three decades just because of cost.
If they continue to go down this path of releasing figures like Retaliation the brand will die quick. We don't like to know that we are paying more for less. We are comfortable for paying more for whats expected. Its simple....
Kaboomskie
08-26-2012, 01:14 PM
I could spend all night discussing my complaints about Hasbro. Though, I'm sure they have been mentioned in the pass 18 pages I haven't read.
Hasbro should just end the G.I. Joe brand. It's never going to be the hit it was in the '80s. Hasbro themselves are killing the Joe brand. They're never going to stop releasing the core characters, and we're never going to get what we want (figure-wise). Forget vehicles, it's too expensive for them. I mean come on they're constantly re-releasing HISS 5&6, Vamp MarkII, and AWE Striker. Action figures, toys in general have reached their peak.
I love G.I. Joe, but the fun of it all is just gone. Prices are ridiculous, you can't find the toys in the stores and Hollywood just butchers the Joe brand. Hasbro, thank you for the past 5 years. 25th Anniversary was only to be 15 figures and look where we are today. I'll enjoy what I have, but honestly Hasbro just needs to let Joe go.
Jinx, you just opened my eyes if I should still collect Joes or not. For this, I sincerely thank you.
minstrelboy
09-03-2012, 10:40 AM
I'd still like to see concurrent lines happening at the same time. Say, one line for the adult collectors and one for the flavor of the month or more kid-friendly line. That, and availability. Also, I'm really sick of exclusives.
Steelgrave
09-03-2012, 10:51 AM
Last night I had a dream that I walked into a store & they had an endcap totally loaded with Star Wars vintage figures. It was like the 80's only with the new current vintage line. All the hard to find ones were there. Enough for everybody.
And seriously, that's the way it should be. That should be the norm. A common site for everybody. JUST GET THE SHIT INTO THE STORES!!!! What good is a toy manufacturer that can't get their product into the stores? All they're doing is feeding the damn scalpers. As if raising the prices wasn't bad enough they also push us to the scalpers so we have to pay 3x & 4x the already inflated retail price.
Inconsistency
3.75?
8 inch?
12 inch?
Articulated?
Regional?
What is it?
skinny
09-03-2012, 12:00 PM
There is a consumer market out there that is so brainwashed into thinking they need something new and different every six months or every week. That is difficult to keep up with. That kind of pressure with a product that takes a long design time and production and distribution time would take a lot of foresight to predict what is going to be hot a year from now unless you lead that trend in the first place.
Perhaps if GIJOE stuck with one format and one storyline instead of trying to be new and relevant all the time some stability could form.
In this case that would be Retaliation, whether the movie sinks or swims, stick with it, develop it.
movie figures dont sell? learn from it, correct the mistakes, but keep the theme.
there thats my two cents for today.
Shin Densetsu
09-04-2012, 03:29 PM
I wish the Sky Striker XP21F was a 2 seater and had wings separate from the landing gear. When I took mine apart for my tutorial on how to separate the wings I was surprised at how easy it could have been to Hasbro to have done the same thing. They just needed to mold less plastic for the black backplate and use shorter landing gear extensions.
bitetheasp
09-05-2012, 07:15 AM
As of right now, my largest complaint is the Retaliation Cobra Trooper.
He doesn't even need double knee joints, but if he had ankle articulation, he'd be my favorite figure.
VideoViper
09-05-2012, 09:47 AM
Cobra Commander, Duke, StormShadow & Snake-Eyes once a year. mixed in with wave 2 or 3.
This slots could easily be new or renamed charactors.
If girls don't sell at retail, then online, in multi packs or vehicles only. If you are not pimping out the newest cartoon, no need to waste the retail space. product moves in stores, you sell more Joes.
darthdrew13
09-05-2012, 09:15 PM
That they let the GI JOE Collector Club constantly scalp us left and right.
Would you pay $25+ for POC wave 3 Snake Eyes? Maybe now on the secondary market, but at retail? NO Way!
I understand the Club is a business that needs to make money, but they are the OFFICIAL GI JOE Club and not the scalpers club of America. I mean they could advertise on every retail figure and on every retail vehicle so they get better exposure to Joe fans and therefore sell more product which in turn allows them to lower prices. But as soon as the hardcore collectors agreed to these higher prices years ago, that set the standard for which the Club operates. The FSS only solidifies this problem.
SgtChameleon79
09-05-2012, 09:19 PM
I understand the Club is a business that needs to make money, but they are the OFFICIAL GI JOE Club and not the scalpers club of America. I mean they could advertise on every retail figure and on every retail vehicle so they get better exposure to Joe fans and therefore sell more product which in turn allows them to lower prices. But as soon as the hardcore collectors agreed to these higher prices years ago, that set the standard for which the Club operates. The FSS only solidifies this problem.
Those are the exact reasons I do not blow my money on the club items...they have pushed me out of the market for their stuff. And Im okay with it.
Steevy Maximus
09-06-2012, 07:01 PM
I understand the Club is a business that needs to make money, but they are the OFFICIAL GI JOE Club and not the scalpers club of America. I mean they could advertise on every retail figure and on every retail vehicle so they get better exposure to Joe fans and therefore sell more product which in turn allows them to lower prices. But as soon as the hardcore collectors agreed to these higher prices years ago, that set the standard for which the Club operates. The FSS only solidifies this problem.
Those are the exact reasons I do not blow my money on the club items...they have pushed me out of the market for their stuff. And Im okay with it.
The club is advertised on EVERY GI Joe product I've gotten in the past 5 years. Sad truth is that there are just not that many Joe fans, at least not enough to support the Club enough for "club items" to be produced and priced at retail level.
Even if the club doubled, the club figures would STILL be 30-50% more than retail, just due to production costs.
Kaboomskie
09-06-2012, 07:27 PM
That's it, I'm going to Soviet China, so GIJoe exclusive toys will hunt me instead.
Steelgrave
09-06-2012, 07:30 PM
If girls don't sell at retail,
This makes me LMAO every time I see it!
She-Hulk & Scarlet Witch have been selling out at my local TRU every time they get them.
ALL the girls from ROC were wiped out except the first Baroness.
From the Star Wars vintage collection I've never ever seen 1 fucking Shae Vizla, Aylaa Secura, Leia sandstorm outfit or Bastila Shan. And I probably NEVER will.
Try finding a Black Widow from Avengers.
pffft......girls don't sell? We've dismissed that claim.
iambob13
02-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Lack of faith in the brand. Maybe JOE sells poorly outside of the collector market because Hasbro believes it will. So they put little effort towards marketing it to the scale it deserves and warrants. Then it, of course, sells less than what they hoped and preconceived notions are made true.
Their current system does not work. From wave assortments to distribution and even the amount of product in stores. I think they should switch to single figure cases so that stores can order only the figures that are selling well to replenish stock. Distribution is awful. Not entirely Hasbro's fault, but when they don't have faith in their brand then why would stores. More faith backed up by quality product, advertising, and a show or game would surely help.
It's called confidence, Hasbro. Learn it. I also think that Hasbro tries to put out too much product throughout the year. How many figures a year did they produce in the 80s? Create less waves and allow more time for consumers to purchase your product. Backed up with media and advertisements, both of which are severly lacking the last several years, the brand will surely grow again. Waves come and go and kids have no clue they were even there. You've got to let kids know that JOE is there and that it's amazing, but they'll also need time to be able to get the stuff.
Instead of reducing articulation to cut costs think about just making a lower number of waves, but make more of it and back it up for longer.
I also think there needs to be more vehicles. I always loved the vehicles as a kid, but never really had any. The smaller vehicles should be available all the time. Set up a yearly rotation of 4 or 5 vehicles with a few bigger ones thrown in. No real reasoning behind this at the moment, but I would just like to easily buy a CLAW or Trouble Bubble whenever I wanted.
Griff
02-26-2013, 09:18 PM
PRICING! I can live with the lesser accessories but the price for the drek out currently is unacceptable!
Kaedryl
02-26-2013, 09:24 PM
I think everyone has already said mine:
1) distribution - how does a company produce product in quantity (green blowtorch, red croc master) and then misplace them?
2) case assortment - it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what the hot figure will be (hint: whichever figures are not duke, storm shadow, snake eyes, roadblock)
3) decent female face paint apps
Falcone
02-26-2013, 10:14 PM
3) decent female face paint apps
They need to mold the heads in flesh tone instead of black. The female figures have really nice face sculpts, including the infamously ugly ROC Baroness and Cover Girl, but they have to paint 5 tons of flesh tone to cover the black. And that destroys all the details and makes the faces look lumpy and bloated.
TheRealDubya
02-26-2013, 10:36 PM
The Collectors Club.
I'd much rather they have a figure of the month club, run by Hasbro, which could serve as a re-issue channel for not yet done, hard to get or troop builder figures. Basically, I want a "Hasby Collector" site, and I want it to offer GI Joe, Star Wars, Marvel and Transformers figures each month.
MeLikeJinx
02-26-2013, 10:40 PM
Stop making so many Dukes, Flints, Roadblocks, Storm Shadows and Fireflys. At least you stopped making so many CC's and Destros though.
flash70
02-26-2013, 10:42 PM
The Collectors Club.
I'd much rather they have a figure of the month club, run by Hasbro, which could serve a re-issue channel for not yet done, hard to get or troop builder figures. Basically, I want a "Hasby Collector" site, and I want to offer GI Joe, Star Wars, Marvel and GI Joe figures each month.
Yes!!! I want to add to this as well. I really hate the collectors club and the jacked up price of the figures when you are not part of club.
Indiana Joe
02-26-2013, 10:44 PM
start making more Dukes, Flints, Roadblocks, Storm Shadows and Fireflys. at the least, start making so many CC's and Destros.
NO MORE Troop Builders!
...............I kid.
Dem_Yoe'z!
02-26-2013, 10:53 PM
I have 2 suggestions for Hasbro:
#1: Don't cut articulation, if production costs makes it that you can't include a fully-articulated figure with a vehicle, simply don't include it. For single pack figures if costs are too high, keep the articulation and scrap the honking fugly missile launcher/spring-loaded gimmicks
#2: As mentioned before by many people, cut the "core character" crap. It obviously doesn't work well because these are the figures that nearly always end up being pegwarmers. Besides after POC SE, Ultimate Duke, 3-pack FF, and the CC/SS shown in NY, there's no reason to release these characters for a long time because it is simply not possible to improve upon perfection.
scruffyronin
02-26-2013, 11:59 PM
I wish they'd demand a basic competency test from their consumers before they are allowed to buy toys.
This.
EvilMonkeyPrime
02-27-2013, 12:15 AM
I would hasbro bring back Flagg points. This is my plan for them. All the core characters that will pegwarm should have alternate heads and webgear to make them into troop builders that can be bought with Flagg points and the UPC of said pegwarmer. Walmart gets their pegwarmers/core chracters we get troop builders. Sales go up stores reorder we can actually find non-core characters on pegs.
scruffyronin
02-27-2013, 01:25 AM
My largest complaint is why do they have such gigantic whiny bitches for fans?
But seriously. it's the price. I can barely afford a single figure now, much less a vehicle. Although, I'm not gonna make a thread whining like a bitch about it. It's simple, high price point = less figures for me. Life goes on.
But seriously, why do they have such gigantic whiny bitches for fans?
Scoop
02-27-2013, 01:48 AM
My biggest complaint is that they don't offer an "Adult Collectible" version of their company like Mattel does with Matty Collector.
A "Hasbro Collector" website which could offer us figures that would never see the light of day in a retail environment would be great.
They could sell all of those "canceled" figures there and other figures which we have to hope might eventually show up as online exclusives or in the G.I. Joe Club's FSS.
r3v3n63
02-27-2013, 02:00 AM
My largest complaint is why do they have such gigantic whiny bitches for fans?
But seriously. it's the price. I can barely afford a single figure now, much less a vehicle. Although, I'm not gonna make a thread whining like a bitch about it. It's simple, high price point = less figures for me. Life goes on.
But seriously, why do they have such gigantic whiny bitches for fans?
The double standard of this post is priceless.
minstrelboy
02-27-2013, 04:49 AM
I would hasbro bring back Flagg points. This is my plan for them. All the core characters that will pegwarm should have alternate heads and webgear to make them into troop builders that can be bought with Flagg points and the UPC of said pegwarmer. Walmart gets their pegwarmers/core chracters we get troop builders. Sales go up stores reorder we can actually find non-core characters on pegs.
Not a complaint really, but a great idea. I'd love it if the Flag Points came back. Operation: Rescue Doc was great - it really made me feel like a kid again. I'd really hoped they'd continue something in this vein instead of the Comic Con and Collectors Club exclusives that cost so much more.
scruffyronin
02-27-2013, 04:56 AM
The double standard of this post is priceless.
Not really, unless your reading it wrong.
ResoluteBAT
02-27-2013, 06:52 AM
Give us stands! We need stands! This is an outrage!
http://www.outlawpsd.com/images/smilies/outlaw/mob.gif
With all seriousness, cutting articulation. It's what made GI Joe different and it's what made it popular in the 80's. I've read about so many people having the GI Joes attack the lesser articulated figures from when they were kids.
And up until now the trend continued and now what made GI Joe special is in jeopardy. We've been fed bullshit that parents and kids like lesser articulated figures... Maybe it's because kids now aren't like how we were. Only younger kids play with GI Joe and kids the age we were are already playing Grand Theft Auto... But still... They aren't doing a good job trying to keep GI Joe unique, I understand they're movie toys but you can at least try.
There were a lot of ROC figures which where run of the mill and not good, but at least they were a good action figure, in Retaliation some of them aren't even good action figures... I don't know, maybe they'd rather have unarticulated garbage sit on the shelves like the new super hero toys instead of having good figures sit there.
I'm going to get off the soap box now... It just bugs me how much they've taken away from GI Joe from cutting articulation. The vehicle drivers really suck... They could be really good figures, but they screw it up.
Not really, unless your reading it wrong.
Well your whining and bitching about people's whining and bitching...
Sounds pretty silly, doesn't it?
txbart
02-27-2013, 06:59 AM
Where are my M.A.S.K. toys?
But really, I'd like to know how market research is done at Hasbro these days. How do they come to the conclusions about what to make & how to make it. I know some on here like to say that the retailer is Hasbro's customer, but that only holds so much water. The final user of Hasbro's product must be kept in mind sometime during the product development and marketing phases. So how is Hasbro figuring them into the equation.
Though, when I see shows with a serious tone like Thundercats, Green Lantern, Young Justice, & Motorcity get cancelled, & shows With a more light hearted tone continue on, I tend to believe that our GI Joe isn't long for this world as it's too serious. That's just my non-scientific, casual observance serving as my marketing tool.
scruffyronin
02-27-2013, 07:21 AM
Well your whining and bitching about people's whining and bitching...
Sounds pretty silly, doesn't it?
Really? You call that whining and bitching? I didn't even go into detail or make comparisons and crap about it like the crybabies do. I guess, I must've hit a sore spot, huh? Oh well.
Anyway, stands suck. I wish Hasbro never makes them again.
Psycho Joe Guy
02-27-2013, 07:47 AM
Really? You call that whining and bitching? I didn't even go into detail or make comparisons and crap about it like the crybabies do. I guess, I must've hit a sore spot, huh? Oh well.
Anyway, stands suck. I wish Hasbro never makes them again.
Trolling... now with more irony!
Crimson Rage
02-27-2013, 07:59 AM
Ahem... UK release
SDawg
02-27-2013, 08:10 AM
Netherlands Release / European Release
r3v3n63
02-27-2013, 08:24 AM
Not really, unless your reading it wrong.
I read what has been written.
Hot~Rod~Cowboy
02-27-2013, 08:26 AM
I could spend all night discussing my complaints about Hasbro. Though, I'm sure they have been mentioned in the pass 18 pages I haven't read.
Hasbro should just end the G.I. Joe brand. It's never going to be the hit it was in the '80s. Hasbro themselves are killing the Joe brand. They're never going to stop releasing the core characters, and we're never going to get what we want (figure-wise). Forget vehicles, it's too expensive for them. I mean come on they're constantly re-releasing HISS 5&6, Vamp MarkII, and AWE Striker. Action figures, toys in general have reached their peak.
I love G.I. Joe, but the fun of it all is just gone. Prices are ridiculous, you can't find the toys in the stores and Hollywood just butchers the Joe brand. Hasbro, thank you for the past 5 years. 25th Anniversary was only to be 15 figures and look where we are today. I'll enjoy what I have, but honestly Hasbro just needs to let Joe go.
Damn its true what you said hate to say it. But a friend of mine have said action figures are almost dead with kids its all electronics and games now. I have to almost agree with all you said just still have a hard part on letting Joe go lol
Jmacq1
02-27-2013, 08:54 AM
I could spend all night discussing my complaints about Hasbro. Though, I'm sure they have been mentioned in the pass 18 pages I haven't read.
Hasbro should just end the G.I. Joe brand. It's never going to be the hit it was in the '80s. Hasbro themselves are killing the Joe brand. They're never going to stop releasing the core characters, and we're never going to get what we want (figure-wise). Forget vehicles, it's too expensive for them. I mean come on they're constantly re-releasing HISS 5&6, Vamp MarkII, and AWE Striker. Action figures, toys in general have reached their peak.
I love G.I. Joe, but the fun of it all is just gone. Prices are ridiculous, you can't find the toys in the stores and Hollywood just butchers the Joe brand. Hasbro, thank you for the past 5 years. 25th Anniversary was only to be 15 figures and look where we are today. I'll enjoy what I have, but honestly Hasbro just needs to let Joe go.
Yeah! Hasbro should stop making G.I. Joe because Jinx723 doesn't enjoy it anymore!
Oh wait, no, that just means Jinx723 should stop collecting or paying attention to G.I. Joe. Problem solved.
pdaaat
02-27-2013, 09:28 AM
Trolling... now with more irony!
"Like".
Stalker
02-27-2013, 10:04 AM
I'd love it if the Flag Points came back. Operation: Rescue Doc was great - it really made me feel like a kid again.
Hooray for this! Boo to T-crotches, flimsy plastic and <vintage POAs.
EvilMonkeyPrime
02-27-2013, 12:25 PM
Where are my M.A.S.K. toys?
.
You can have them right after we get those jurrasic park figs that use joe parts. Be nice if we could get sw figs with removable webgear/vests and joe legs and torsos. Be even better if they would bring back the back screw and use uniform construction for all lines, (joe standards).
theprocess
02-27-2013, 12:30 PM
I've got ninety-nine problems, and Hasbro ain't one.
Turn it up!
DaveViper
02-27-2013, 02:19 PM
Biggest complaint to Hasbro, why do I have to wait till August to get an Eaglehawk. I want it now!!! :)
bloth
02-27-2013, 02:22 PM
GI joe toy advertising! In some form or another. Those comic books with the toy alt-covers were pretty neat.
Konigstiger
02-27-2013, 02:24 PM
Currently I have a bug up my ass with Hasbro on two things. A: The relatively minor thing of waiting to May for the awesomeness of wave 3.
and B, the big thing, is Professor Xavier not dripping off the pegs.
Typhis
02-27-2013, 03:19 PM
Letting the Club make and sell figures!!!!
DaveViper
02-27-2013, 03:20 PM
If I had to say one thing it would be distribution. But I am for the most part very happy with Hasbro.
DaveViper
02-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Letting the Club make and sell figures!!!!
For discussion sake, not flaming.
My 2 cents.
I like that I have a avenue to get the figures that Hasbro isn't making. Not defending the club to much. But if most of the figures that are for example in the FSS where available in retail only, then we would be starting threads on why can't I find them in the wild. $25 is a lot of money for a figure but I rack up about that much just in gas looking for good stuff at retail. In some ways the Club is doing us a service.
Until Hasbro commits to making more of what we ask for and distribution gets better, sites like the club are a godsend.
starbuck
02-27-2013, 03:43 PM
My largest complaint to Hasbro?
Quit making the new troop builders look so awesome!
My CGs are going to look like trash next to that new Retaliation version... :(
triant
02-27-2013, 07:01 PM
european release
I am tired paying for usps and custom fees
youdoitimbusy
02-27-2013, 07:43 PM
They don't ship new figures dirrectly to my house. It would be much better for both parties. Heck id let them pull money from my checking account if they all just ended up on my door on the release date.
heltskelt
02-27-2013, 08:23 PM
Don't mix troop-builders with single characters in 3-packs!
monstermonkey
02-28-2013, 10:32 AM
I guess I'd say distribution/lack of abundant product on the shelf. This started to be a problem I had with Hasbro a few years ago with SW, and I kinda gave up on that line. I have, very recently, picked up some new SW figures on the cheap due to them showing up at 5 Below and being clearanced by 50% at TRU and Target, but there's a few good ones I missed out on.
It's funny, the $10/single carded figure thing I can deal with, since it's all relative ($3.99 a gallon gas right now, for example). Some of the new figures are definitely worth it, IMO.
speedlgt
02-28-2013, 03:37 PM
#1 PLAYSETS!!!!! where in the F are the playsets? if imaginenext can make playsets and have a whole dam asile of em why cant joe have 1 or 2?
#2 FILE CARDS! we like LOVE em bring em back.
#3 make new characters. like this MOUSE guy i think its cool that we dont know him and hes a new character.
#4 acessories! I like getting a bunch of em but could we did it like the SW figs? so you get a complete JOE with HIS weapons that make him complete and its not like 10 guns. you can put 10 guns in a little foot locker like the SW figs and there just weapons not really for the JOE they come with so hes complete with only 1 gun
Saboteur
02-28-2013, 04:07 PM
Where's mah Visionaries?
speedlgt
02-28-2013, 05:04 PM
Where's mah Visionaries?
oh yeah where the MASK toys!!!
DarkParsifal
02-28-2013, 05:35 PM
My largest complaint to Hasbro right now is about upcoming Marvel Legends...why no Jim Lee Cyclops in the upcoming Wolverine Legends wave? I know Toy Biz made a JL Cyc, but IMO, as well as the opinion of many other collectors, that figure totally sucked.
Don't get me wrong, I'm cool with the Phoenix 5 Cyc variant, but who in the hell at hasbro decided Astonishing XM Cyc should be the nonvariant instead of JL Cyc?
First off, Hasbro already made a decent Astonishing Cyc, and released it in the Brood Queen wave. Secondly, Hasbro's releasing a JL Jean Grey this year, and so it would've only been proper to give us a good JL Cyc as well. And lastly, the majority of fans have made it abundantly clear that JL Cyc is the best Cyc costume ever. And it wouldn't be hard (or expensive) at all for Hasbro to carry this figure out. Just make some attachable web gear, cast a new Cyc head, paint up the Bucky Cap body and voila, JL Cyc is done.
DarkParsifal
02-28-2013, 05:46 PM
Oh yeah, and WTF is up with the upcoming mini Build a figure of Rocket Raccoon?!?!?!? Why are the legs just one solid piece of plastic with no articulation? The figure's upper body looks just fine, ball jointed shoulders and elbows, ball and socket head. But who at hasbro gave the greenlight to any ML figure without leg articulation? It's downright insulting to us fans, it's insulting to the machines making the figures, and it's a huge insult to the character of Rocket Raccoon.
Plus I would think that if hasbro's going to charge me the same price for an ML figure with a large build a figure piece as they would an ML with a mini build a figure piece, they could at least articulate the mini BAF piece which only uses a fraction of the same plastic as the large BAF piece in the first place.
I'm sorry but that's just damn lazy. Hasbro needs to have an emergency ML strategy session and fix that Rocket Raccoon figure's legs ASAP, because if they release that piece of crap without leg articulation, then that will be the first nail in the coffin of the Return of ML. ML is a line for highly poseable action figures, not cheap ass statues that end up putting a few extras pennies in a bunch of rich enough already CEO's wallets.
Night_Force_GI_EDDO
02-28-2013, 06:02 PM
I don't like the price of the figures right now, and I don't like reduced articulation on those figures. I dislike the firing rocket launching weapons because the majority of the time the are oversized and they take the place of better accessories. I dislike the removal of the figure stands. Even if they have to shrink the size of the stands, I want my stands. Filecards....I miss them, but it's not a deal breaker....but it would be nice to know the characters' real names and such....like what would be on their dog tags.
Having said all that...I like just about everything else they have done. I love the Skystriker, and am looking forward to the Eaglehawk.
Psycho Joe Guy
02-28-2013, 06:33 PM
oh yeah where the MASK toys!!!
...dead in the 80's where they belong. GI Joe has enough problems trying to keep its own brand going. Tying in other failed toylines only dilutes the brand. Matt Trakker was done the right way: a nod to fans that said, 'yes we have the rights to old Kenner toys and acknowledge that many Joe fans like MASK' but it's ridiculous to expect Hasbro to integrate the very brands GI Joe helped bury on any kind of major scale.
Bears66
02-28-2013, 06:38 PM
Complaint? That I'm tired of seeing the same few characters over and over again
Mr Hebime
02-28-2013, 06:57 PM
Showing us the concept vault and not releasing it. Granted, a few of the figures are being released in the movie line, but we have a LOT of great troop builders that can be released in at least 4 different multi-packs (ninjas, zombies, cobra troops, joe troops).
iambob13
03-01-2013, 09:11 AM
Showing us the concept vault and not releasing it. Granted, a few of the figures are being released in the movie line, but we have a LOT of great troop builders that can be released in at least 4 different multi-packs (ninjas, zombies, cobra troops, joe troops).
Agreed. Hopefully, with time, we will see these packs come out.
NeoDragonKnight
03-01-2013, 09:21 AM
Id complain about distribution, but I know that is not their fault as its the retailers that are the ones that order the amounts they do and dedicate the shelf space. Prior to Retaliation I'd say brand recognition, but I think the movie was a step in the right direction. So really the only thing I could complain about is the actual product, POC figs were really near perfect, so all Id want them to do is put more paint aps on figures and weapons while keeping everything on POC the same (some retaliation weapons are starting to have paint aps).
A.V.A.C.
03-01-2013, 09:33 AM
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helrod
03-01-2013, 09:52 AM
Hasbro's biggest problem seems to be consistency ....
That is pretty much what every complaint boils down to.
It's like going to a restaurant loving it , It has the best burgers in the world you want to take all your friends so they can witness this.
The next day there are lines around the block to get those burgers , A couple weeks later you drive by and there's no line ..
So you think hey cool I can get a burger , you walk in to an empty restaurant look at the menu and can't find a hamburger anywhere on it.
You ask the waiter ," Um, I wanted one of your burgers that you're so famous for?"
he sadly informs you "Oh well the owner saw how popular those were and how well he was doing , so he decided to stop selling those, We do pizza now."
That is a common doomed small business mistake it's pretty disturbing to see a big business doing that over and over.
steve2477
03-01-2013, 09:56 AM
Stop decreasing articulation and release Gi Joe toys in International countries.
Saboteur
03-01-2013, 10:27 AM
...dead in the 80's where they belong. GI Joe has enough problems trying to keep its own brand going. Tying in other failed toylines only dilutes the brand. Matt Trakker was done the right way: a nod to fans that said, 'yes we have the rights to old Kenner toys and acknowledge that many Joe fans like MASK' but it's ridiculous to expect Hasbro to integrate the very brands GI Joe helped bury on any kind of major scale.
First, I don't think he was insinuating that MASK needed to return under the Joe banner. Neither was I when I spoke of the visionaries. Though, to be fair to you, I can see where you got that impression since Hasbro did release Matt Trakker in the Joe line in 2008.
However, my point about the visionaries, and (I believe) his point about MASK is that they are both Hasbro properties. And they're properties from our past that we'd like to see make a return. And this can be done without mingling them with other lines like Joe.
I do think that Hasbro's attempt to 'test the waters' by putting a Trakker in the Joe line was a rather weak attempt.
I'm all for both of these lines returning. And they don't have to be integrated into the Joe lineup.
Second, while MASK and the Visionaries are 80's toys and seem 'dead' at this point, both lines respectfully died in the 80's. G I Joe did as well and that hasn't stopped Hasbro from reviving it. It's not that unrealistic to imagine Hasbro taking advantage of it's properties and tossing a hook in the ocean of fans out there to see if there's a chance for a major resurrgence. Neither of them are doing Hasbro any good right now at a stand still.
starbuck
03-01-2013, 10:39 AM
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starbuck
03-01-2013, 10:41 AM
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starbuck
03-01-2013, 10:43 AM
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joeymac
03-01-2013, 10:43 AM
my 2 biggest complaints are the change in parts ARAH so that you can't swap parts with another years figure
and the new line of figures alien like torso is just aweful
starbuck
03-01-2013, 10:48 AM
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