Smh!

[hunger]

It amazes me how many hoarders there are out there. I was at Target yesterday and noticed that prices have gone up and quantity has gone down at all of the big-chained retail stores. I see this guy grabbing a bunch of toys off the shelves and pegs like he is gathering food and water for a bad storm. I over heard him say that he is going to make a killing on eBay with this haul. It made me think about the listings on ebay for things that are "RARE" yet there is hundreds of listings regarding the same item, so it’s not rare in quantity. It’s rare because you'll never find them since hoarders are getting there early to buy them all. Case in point the Dollar General G I Joe exclusives are all over eBay, yet I live near 3 and have never seen them. Store clerks say guys arrive early and lurk around the front entrance waiting for us to open. I would love to own some of the new DG Joes or even the new Cat woman and have them displayed in my case proudly. Unfortunately those who are hoarders and do not collect as a hobby or for the love of it, are busy buying everything and selling them to suckers who are willing to pay 3 times what they are worth. I have said my piece and bid everyone a great day!

[Barefoot Jedi]

The early Raptor gets the W.O.R.M.S.

Collecting effectively these days does necessitate a measure of networking and strategy.

I myself have pre-ordered the majority of what I wanted for the last year and a half or so and have spared myself the irritation of fruitless searches. Not an option, alack and alas, for the Dollar General Joes and exclusives, but no system is perfect. This was a change for me and a reflection of the times. I used to be able to eventually find everything I wanted in stores but that has not been the case these last 2 years. Locally there's just not that much merchandise.

Also, my shift to pre-ordering has permitted me to purchase things I have found at retail by luck for others in my circle looking for them, and some of them, in turn, have helped me immensely. If one wants to have a friend, one must be a friend.

[ozzie92]

The early Raptor gets the W.O.R.M.S.

Collecting effectively these days does necessitate a measure of networking and strategy.

I myself have pre-ordered the majority of what I wanted for the last year and a half or so and have spared myself the irritation of fruitless searches. Not an option, alack and alas, for the Dollar General Joes and exclusives, but no system is perfect. This was a change for me and a reflection of the times. I used to be able to eventually find everything I wanted in stores but that has not been the case these last 2 years. Locally there's just not that much merchandise.

Also, my shift to pre-ordering has permitted me to purchase things I have found at retail by luck for others in my circle looking for them, and some of them, in turn, have helped me immensely. If one wants to have a friend, one must be a friend.

This ^^^ :)

[Smokebomb]

And Im sure living in a highly populated area doesnt help him any. There might be more outlets with available figs but theres way more people to buy them up as well.

[Dealer Destro]

Oh no. Here we go again..........................

[Smokebomb]

Youre not surprised are you?

[Barefoot Jedi]

And Im sure living in a highly populated area doesnt help him any. There might be more outlets with available figs but theres way more people to buy them up as well.

I live in a small city and there don't seem to be many collectors nor Ebay sellers but from what I've gleaned from friends of mine who live in large urban areas there is lots more product in stores but also a lot more competition.

I do think one ought to be realistic about his situation and adapt to that environment. As an acquaintance of mine was fond of quoting, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first. :)

[youdoitimbusy]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

[Smokebomb]

possibly IDK.

[80sKid]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

My question is isn't buying up all of a product available and selling it for inflated prices consider scalping and scalping concert or sports events tickets is most definitely illegal so why not other products? I have always wondered how Ebay was allowed to be since its inception. My question about this came up way before I got back into collecting GI Joe and saw how ridiculous the scalpers and horders are in this hobby, it's pretty disgusting and as I have said on many other threads is quite lame and anyone who drives around buying up all of a desired toy to resell online is a nerd, dork, herb and straight up piece of sh!t! Get a life you losers!

[youdoitimbusy]

Thank you 80skid, right on the money!

[Tom-1]

re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

At least it's not the same as ironing.

Tom

[The L.O.C.]

It's called supply and demand. Some of what I have read in these posts is ridiculous. Legislation? Really? How does eBay operate? Just like auctions have for hundreds of years, just an easy to use online format. Maybe there are more fees involved now a days...

I can't get the figures I want because someone got there before me, cry me a river. Wake up a little earlier, check the stores more often or pre-order them. Boo-hooing on here doesn't help you. Make some friends on here and network. You would be surprised at the generosity of many people on this site.

[coreystinson]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read in 2-3 months.

[Gyre-Viper]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.


Nah.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

This thread is so full of fail, it's busting at the seams.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

If Congress got involved, then our Joes' guns wouldn't be full auto and they'd come with clips that couldn't hold more than 20 rounds.

[Angry.Android]

scalpers who buy figures from a retail outlet for the sole reason of reselling them at a profit while said product is still at retail are parasites. they serve no positive purpose.

[jaimanstone]

It amazes me how many hoarders there are out there. I was at Target yesterday and noticed that prices have gone up and quantity has gone down at all of the big-chained retail stores. I see this guy grabbing a bunch of toys off the shelves and pegs like he is gathering food and water for a bad storm. I over heard him say that he is going to make a killing on eBay with this haul. It made me think about the listings on ebay for things that are "RARE" yet there is hundreds of listings regarding the same item, so it’s not rare in quantity. It’s rare because you'll never find them since hoarders are getting there early to buy them all. Case in point the Dollar General G I Joe exclusives are all over eBay, yet I live near 3 and have never seen them. Store clerks say guys arrive early and lurk around the front entrance waiting for us to open. I would love to own some of the new DG Joes or even the new Cat woman and have them displayed in my case proudly. Unfortunately those who are hoarders and do not collect as a hobby or for the love of it, are busy buying everything and selling them to suckers who are willing to pay 3 times what they are worth. I have said my piece and bid everyone a great day!


Wow.

The above statement is so crammed full of inconsistency, contradiction and ignorance as to be absolutely astounding.

The OP contends that one who legally purchases an item that then becomes his property and then legally sells his property to another party should then become a felonious criminal.

Wow.

Should legislation be passed by the national congress of the United States, it would be the largest assault on freedom, capitalism and the American economic system in the history of the country.

No longer could people sell their homes for a profit. No longer could people sell a car at a profit. No longer could anyone sell any type of personal property at all if there was any profit at all.

North Korea may be an option for those that believe this way.

Under the legislation proposed by the OP, would it not also close every retail store in the nation? Retail stores only make money by buying products from manufacturers at a lower wholesale cost and then "scalping" those items to consumers for a profit. This includes every "rare" and "hard to find" GI Joe.

Under the proposed legislation, it would only be legal to purchase GI Joes from Hasbro directly.

But not so fast, there's one more problem: hasbro makes a profit. They produce these toys and then up the price over their production costs to make a profit!

Yes, they are "scalping" their own products.

The OP professes his love for capitalism, but his proposal for legislation banning private sales of private property between American citizens would cripple the United States and would make it impossible for Hasbro to continue to produce the toys he loves.

[SonOfMindbender]

I don't care what anybody thinks. Re-selling should be a felony. I'm not talking about selling your 25th roc or poc figures, that's fine because they are not being sold in stores anymore. If you are selling something at a mark up that is still being destributed in stores, your a criminal and shoud be treated as such. If hasbro wanted the price point to be 20 bucks they would sell them for that price. I'm all for free enterprize, if you want to by 50 cases and wait tell they arnt being sold to try and move them that's fine, but re-sellers should be prosecuted. To me this is the same as steeling. I bet you if I sent up legislation agenst this it would get passed by congress and they can't agree on anything.

I'm not a fan of Instant collectibles (stuff still in stores) and I feel your pain. That being said, the buyer is the wrong doer here not the re-sellers. As long as there are buyers willing to pay a higher cost to get what they want, there will be resellers. Why does this bother anyone? Jealousy maybe? Look, you can either deal with this fact and keep collecting a little wiser or write your Congressman and complain you can't get the toys you want. The choice kind sir is still yours.

[hunger]

I tend to think that someone who gets up extremely early to buy up an entire wave or assortment of figures is rather comical. I can't even imagine the thought process that goes through someone’s mind that plans his or her day by hitting every store known to man before noon. Take a nap, then get up and sit in front of a computer to post their listings of new acquired goods for sale. If this is your life then more power to you. In fact I have heard that hoarders are mad at the over night shift workers for taking all of their prizes before the early morning lurkers can get their hands on it. Amazing but true. All I ask is that you grab one of each and not all of each then move on. Leave some for the kids and occasional collector. Sell your items at inflated prices to those who are rich or crazy enough to buy it. I mean really paying $19(not including shipping) for a 3.75 Cat woman on eBay when you can buy the set for $21 and get 4 figures with it. There are tons of these sets avail at Target! Either way enjoy the rest of your day and be civil with one another.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

Wow.

The above statement is so crammed full of inconsistency, contradiction and ignorance as to be absolutely astounding.

The OP contends that one who legally purchases an item that then becomes his property and then legally sells his property to another party should then become a felonious criminal. Wow. Should legislation be passed by the national congress of the United States, it would be the largest assault on freedom, capitalism and the American economic system in a hundred years.

No longer could people sell their homes for a profit. No longer could people sell a car at a profit. No longer could anyone sell any type of personal property at all if there was any profit at all.

North Korea may be an option for those that believe this way.

Under the legislation proposed by the OP, would it not also close every retail store in the nation? Retail stores only make money by buying products from manufacturers at a lower wholesale cost and then "scalping" those items to consumers for a profit. This includes every "rare" and "hard to find" GI Joes.

Under the proposed legislation, it would only be legal to purchase GI Joes from Hasbro directly.

But not so fast, there's one more problem: hasbro makes a profit. They produce these toys and then up the price over their production costs to make a profit!

Yes, they are "scalping" their own products.

The OP professes his love for capitalism, but his proposal for legislation banning private sales of private property between American citizens would cripple the United States and would make it impossible for Hasbro to continue to produce the toys he loves.

Your logic has no place here. The OP wants his toys. He needs his toys.

[troublemagnet]

I don't care if scalpers buy every Retaliation figure ever made.

[kneroh]

I tend to think that someone who gets up extremely early to buy up an entire wave or assortment of figures is rather comical. I can't even imagine the thought process that goes through someone’s mind that plans his or her day by hitting every store known to man before noon. Take a nap, then get up and sit in front of a computer to post their listings of new acquired goods for sale. If this is your life then more power to you. In fact I have heard that hoarders are mad at the over night shift workers for taking all of their prizes before the early morning lurkers can get their hands on it. Amazing but true. All I ask is that you grab one of each and not all of each then move on. Leave some for the kids and occasional collector. Sell your items at inflated prices to those who are rich or crazy enough to buy it. I mean really paying $19(not including shipping) for a 3.75 Cat woman on eBay when you can buy the set for $21 and get 4 figures with it. There are tons of these sets avail at Target! Either way enjoy the rest of your day and be civil with one another.

Here's idea, stop fucking caring what other people do with their time and their money. There's nothing illegal about it. It's only preventing you from getting your little plastic men (or catwoman) as soon as you want them. I wonder what people who don't collect toys think about you and your ranting?

[Smokebomb]

It doesnt matter what ones who dont collect think. There is enough thought from those that DO collect.

[Darth_Risar]

When I worked at Wal-Mart in the toy department I would put out figures and Hot Wheels out around 7pm to 9pm, so most scalpers would be out of luck. And just from my own observation, Hot Wheels collectors/scalpers had the highest douche bag factor.

[Smokebomb]

Ive heard horror stories about HW collectors.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

If I lived in NYC, I'd buy every Catwoman figure I could find just out of spite of this thread.

[youdoitimbusy]

It's called supply and demand. Some of what I have read in these posts is ridiculous. Legislation? Really? How does eBay operate? Just like auctions have for hundreds of years, just an easy to use online format. Maybe there are more fees involved now a days...

I can't get the figures I want because someone got there before me, cry me a river. Wake up a little earlier, check the stores more often or pre-order them. Boo-hooing on here doesn't help you. Make some friends on here and network. You would be surprised at the generosity of many people on this site.

There are only 2 sides to the coin here. If I'm agenst scalping, that would make you?...ps I do pre-order and aside from the dgs which ill eventually aquire have all the figures I want.

[kneroh]

There are only 2 sides to the coin here. If I'm agenst scalping, that would make you?...ps I do pre-order and aside from the dgs which ill eventually aquire have all the figures I want.

There's not only 2 sides. It's not us vs. them. If I had to choose between someone selling a toy for a large profit over the freedom of that person to so... and by extension my own freedom to pursue wealth guess what I'm going to pick?

How the fuck does $9 of plastic get people SO short sighted?!?

[ChicagoScott]

so·cial·ism

   [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun 1. a theory or system of social organization (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+organization) that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/control) of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/community) as a whole.

cap·i·tal·ism/ˈkapətlˌizəm/

Noun:An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

[Darth_Risar]

Ive heard horror stories about HW collectors.

They are the worst.

[The L.O.C.]

There are only 2 sides to the coin here. If I'm agenst scalping, that would make you?...ps I do pre-order and aside from the dgs which ill eventually aquire have all the figures I want.

that would make me??? What, exactly? Again, supply and demand... If I want a figure I can not get through normal means (brick and mortar or online stores), I will pay more to get what I want. I will however, wait until the price normalizes. That is called patience.

[youdoitimbusy]

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read in 2-3 months.

You don't read much of what I wright do you?...

[Darth_Risar]

When I win the Powerball, I'll just set up an account with Hasbro order what I want and whatever excess I have leftover I'll just donate to Toys for Tots or Saint Judes.

[dpstro]

I just laugh at some of the prices on some of the listings on ebay. I just don't bid and then the jokes on them.

Also,
Is it considered hoarding if I buy a lot from second hand? At one point I had 10 Sky Strikers...

[The L.O.C.]

You don't read much of what I wright do you?...

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/45thidcracker/Wright-Brothers-Unpowered-Test-Flig.jpg

[The L.O.C.]

I just laugh at some of the prices on some of the listings on ebay. I just don't bid and then the jokes on them.

Also,
Is it considered hoarding if I buy a lot from second hand? At one point I had 10 Sky Strikers...

Did you sell the extras and make a profit, because according to some... You good sir belong in prison.

[kneroh]

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/45thidcracker/Wright-Brothers-Unpowered-Test-Flig.jpg

http://www.ugodog.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mutley1.jpg

[youdoitimbusy]

I'm not trying to get you fired up loc. I appologize if I insulted you. I'm just agenst scalping, I think it hurts our hobby as a whole.

[dpstro]

Did you sell the extras and make a profit, because according to some... You good sir belong in prison.

hahahaha no I haven't sold any of my collection.

1 Skystriker I gave to my boss's son (earned some serious points)
1 I used as payment for a custom night boomer

I'm now left with 8. I don't plan on selling anything in my collection actually. My extra stuff will either be used as trades or given to kids.

[Gyre-Viper]

I'm not trying to get you fired up loc. I appologize if I insulted you. I'm just agenst scalping, I think it hurts our hobby as a whole.


That's the issue. It's a HOBBY. It is not consumerism in the most direct sense. We as hobbyists CHOOSE everything. It isn't like groceries or bare necessities or anything like that. And within adult collecting comes adult prices and situations. If you want something, you have to buy it. If you don't want it that bad... then don't buy it. Should a movie be able to make more money than it cost to make? Should these products you're trying to protect from scalping be sold for what it cost to make them? How far are you willing to take this?

[The L.O.C.]

hahahaha no I haven't sold any of my collection.

1 Skystriker I gave to my boss's son (earned some serious points)
1 I used as payment for a custom night boomer

I'm now left with 8. I don't plan on selling anything in my collection actually. My extra stuff will either be used as trades or given to kids.

Bartering, trades and generosity... GTFO! Sell, sell, sell, before you are called a hoarder! :D

[Nirvana]

That's it, I'm heading to TRU right now and buying a bunch of toys to scalp. Thanks OP for showing me the light. 300% markup FTW!

[The L.O.C.]

That's it, I'm heading to TRU right now and buying a bunch of toys to scalp. Thanks OP for showing me the light. 300% markup FTW!

It's that easy!!!! I'll be a millionaire soon!

[youdoitimbusy]

Gyre I understand your stance. I'm fine with any one who wants to open their own store and sell at the prices they see fit. I just don't like the idea of people buying up all of someone elses product to sell it at an inflated price. Its just my opinion, I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

[monstermonkey]

When I worked at Wal-Mart in the toy department I would put out figures and Hot Wheels out around 7pm to 9pm, so most scalpers would be out of luck. And just from my own observation, Hot Wheels collectors/scalpers had the highest douche bag factor.

Back in the day, the Starting Lineup collectors were really bad. When I worked at TRU, the same guys would come in every day, sometimes twice...morning and then right before we closed. On a few occasions, they would wander into our backroom and look for stuff themselves. We briefly had a manager, who befriended one of them and would grab the cases right off the truck and hold them in the office for the SL guy to browse through before it made it to the pegs. And one time, one of them yelled at me at a card/comic show because he knew I worked at TRU and thought I was keeping the "good stuff" for myself....no, balding fat man, I care not of your Barry Bonds and Chipper Jones toys. I've heard some adult Hot Wheels collectors can excel at the douchbaggery, too...but never had any problems with them.

As for buying up figures to resell being a felony....wow. Some of the posts in this thread have me skerd. Could you imagine a dude doing time for scalping toys on eBay? Figure collecting should be fun, it should never get to the point where you're so angry you missed out on getting _____figure that you want people locked up.

[Smokebomb]

Anyway the govt is too busy regulating the size of sodas at restaurants...

[coreystinson]

Gyre I understand your stance. I'm fine with any one who wants to open their own store and sell at the prices they see fit. I just don't like the idea of people buying up all of someone elses product to sell it at an inflated price. Its just my opinion, I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

Actually, yes you were asking other people to agree with you. By suggesting that something should be illegal/a felony you are asking the rest of society to agree with you, elevate the activity to a crime, and then take (violent, if necessary) actions against those "perpetrators" for this arbitrary, victim-less activity that happens to be an annoyance to you. Perhaps I should suggest that it be felonious to be caught making moronic statements in public. If so enacted, you would be typing your posts from the internet terminal in the prison commissary I have no doubt.

[Smokebomb]

as would you

[Darth_Risar]

It also comes down to what someone is willing to pay or accept. For example, I have a MIB CY-Girls Destiny Figure I will part with for $750.00. That is what I will accept to let it go, because I know how much of a pain in the ass it would be to find a replacement if I decided I wanted it back. That's just the way business works no matter if it's a transaction between two people or a multinational corporation. You can negotiate or you can go out and be there when the stores open up each morning to try and get what you are looking for. If someone else’s is putting the time, effort and resources into finding a product and then re-selling it for a profit, I'm pretty sure that's way business is supposed to work. Neither Target nor Wal-Mart actually manufacture anything they sell, even the house brands are made by subsidiaries. I actually put at least two cases of Joe figures out with a Renegades Storm Shadow and passed each time, then decided I wanted him and had to pay over $30, and it was the same with Marvel Legends Steve Rogers and Ghost Rider. The price was more than retail but I wanted them and found them at an acceptable price. Of course the same couldn’t be said for the Sideshow Flint ACTION FIGURE that went for almost $200.00. If you want something bad enough make the effort or pay someone else to do it for you.

“The art of good business is being a good middleman.” –Eddie Temple, Layer Cake

[hunger]

I actually have a request for all hoarders. Can you please buy up all of the Artic Destros, lame ass Duke and every other peg warmer out there. It makes room for the stores to buy more product. Thanks

[youdoitimbusy]

Actually, yes you were asking other people to agree with you. By suggesting that something should be illegal/a felony you are asking the rest of society to agree with you, elevate the activity to a crime, and then take (violent, if necessary) actions against those "perpetrators" for this arbitrary, victim-less activity that happens to be an annoyance to you. Perhaps I should suggest that it be felonious to be caught making moronic statements in public. If so enacted, you would be typing your posts from the internet terminal in the prison commissary I have no doubt.

Selling drugs is a victim-less crime, as is prostitution or gambling. This doesn't make it legal in many places. I still don't think I'm asking you to agree with me, just my opinion. Your intitled to your own.

[Troynos]

Selling drugs and gambling is a victim-less crime?

uhm.... no...

[The L.O.C.]

Selling drugs is a victim-less crime, as is prostitution or gambling. This doesn't make it legal in many places. I still don't think I'm asking you to agree with me, just my opinion. Your intitled to your own.

Selling drugs is a victim less crime? WTF?

[youdoitimbusy]

Its simply a business transaction between two individuals, is it not?

[hunger]

Let's stop all of this bickering amongst us all. No need to get the Gov't involved and start lighting up the torches for a witch-hunt. We all have different opinions that make sense and some that don't. However the true message here is that scalpers and hoarders are people. They need to eat and pay mom rent every month. It's not their fault that they are programmed that way. You kind of have to feel bad for them in a way. It's actually our fault for providing them with the platform in which to continue to fuel their efforts and resources. There are those that will pay $30 for an Artic Destro when Target has them on clearance for $2. I would just like the opportunity that when I'm either on my lunch break or even when I'm driving home that I can easily walking into a Target or Wal-Mart that there will be a new item ready for me to purchase.

[jaimanstone]

Its simply a business transaction between two individuals, is it not?

No, it's illegal.

Also, drugs DESTROY people, put children in horrifying circumstances. Big difference between buying and snorting/smoking/shooting meth.

[jaimanstone]

I love how you implore everyone to sto the bickering and then throw fuel on the fire!

Hilarious!


Let's stop all of this bickering amongst us all. No need to get the Gov't involved and start lighting up the torches for a witch-hunt. We all have different opinions that make sense and some that don't. However the true message here is that scalpers and hoarders are people. They need to eat and pay mom rent every month. It's not their fault that they are programmed that way. You kind of have to feel bad for them in a way. It's actually our fault for providing them with the platform in which to continue to fuel their efforts and resources. There are those that will pay $30 for an Artic Destro when Target has them on clearance for $2. I would just like the opportunity that when I'm either on my lunch break or even when I'm driving home that I can easily walking into a Target or Wal-Mart that there will be a new item ready for me to purchase.

[The L.O.C.]

Let's stop all of this bickering amongst us all. No need to get the Gov't involved and start lighting up the torches for a witch-hunt. We all have different opinions that make sense and some that don't. However the true message here is that scalpers and hoarders are people. They need to eat and pay mom rent every month. It's not their fault that they are programmed that way. You kind of have to feel bad for them in a way. It's actually our fault for providing them with the platform in which to continue to fuel their efforts and resources. There are those that will pay $30 for an Artic Destro when Target has them on clearance for $2. I would just like the opportunity that when I'm either on my lunch break or even when I'm driving home that I can easily walking into a Target or Wal-Mart that there will be a new item ready for me to purchase.

1) Are army builders hoarders in your eyes? If so, guilty as charged.
2) What makes them collectible if everyone is able to get them whenever they want?

[youdoitimbusy]

No, it's illegal.

Also, drugs DESTROY people, put children in horrifying circumstances. Big difference between buying and snorting/smoking/shooting meth.

That's called child abuse, and it is a crime. What one chooses to due to them selves is there own choice. That's why its now illegal or soon to be illegal to buy a 44 once drink in new york

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

Selling drugs is a victim-less crime, as is prostitution or gambling.

Jesus H. Christ. Just stop.

[jaimanstone]

A coca cola and meth are much, much different.

Drugs are not a victimless crime. The collateral damage is absolutely prolific in its reach. I work with drug addicts daily. It is horrifying to individuals and families.

What about the 'bath salts' that people have been ingesting? You know, and then attacking children or eating a homeless man's face?

Sounds like a victimless crime for sure.

[The L.O.C.]

So the children get abused because of choices their parents make while on drugs... sounds victim-less to me. Glad that is cleared up.

[Cdt Weasel]

So when I randomly found a glow in the dark skylanders figure at walmart, bought it simply to resell it, and resold the $10 toy for $140, I should go to jail? Am I still a loser even if I didnt plan my day around stopping for toys at that store?

[punchitchewy80]

hahaha, iv been reading this thread for a while now and it just keeps getting longer and more random but im really enjoying it so keep it up.

no imput to this thread as such, im in the uk and we simpley do not have joes or anything really, cept dr who n lego n far too much starwars so just be thankfull you CAN walk in to a shop and maybe find a fig you need i/we in the uk have no choice but to use ebay scalpers n etailers with hefty shipping fees n then customs fees.

you dont know how good you got it.

[monstermonkey]

To the OP: what does the title of this thread "Smh!" mean? That one of those internet abbreviations or acronyms the kids use nowadays?

[nerdsgetchicks]

My question is isn't buying up all of a product available and selling it for inflated prices consider scalping and scalping concert or sports events tickets is most definitely illegal so why not other products? I have always wondered how Ebay was allowed to be since its inception. My question about this came up way before I got back into collecting GI Joe and saw how ridiculous the scalpers and horders are in this hobby, it's pretty disgusting and as I have said on many other threads is quite lame and anyone who drives around buying up all of a desired toy to resell online is a nerd, dork, herb and straight up piece of sh!t! Get a life you losers!

Thank you 80skid, right on the money!

People can sell on an open market. It is not illegal to sell your items (such as concert tickets) on Ebay.

Its simply a business transaction between two individuals, is it not?

That's called child abuse, and it is a crime. What one chooses to due to them selves is there own choice. That's why its now illegal or soon to be illegal to buy a 44 once drink in new york

This is why I moved out of Michigan. GO FIGURE!!!

[punchitchewy80]

what drugs are illegal!! this threads epic.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

To the OP: what does the title of this thread "Smh!" mean?

Shaking my head.


That one of those internet abbreviations or acronyms the kids use nowadays?

Yes.

[Gyre-Viper]

Wait... so drugs are victimless but selling toys...


you know what... nevermind. I... yeahhh. Yeah no.

[punchitchewy80]

plastic crack??

[troublemagnet]

A coca cola and meth are much, much different.

Drugs are not a victimless crime. The collateral damage is absolutely prolific in its reach. I work with drug addicts daily. It is horrifying to individuals and families.

What about the 'bath salts' that people have been ingesting? You know, and then attacking children or eating a homeless man's face?

Sounds like a victimless crime for sure.
What about the ganja? The only victim seems to be the refrigerator.Alcohol is much more dangerous, yet it's "legal".Did you know that the constitution of the US was written on Hemp paper? did you know that George Washington grew pot? The only people who want drugs illegal are the government and law enforcement. The government wants it illegal because its illegality keeps the price artifically high which funds the CIA's Black-Ops programs.DEA wants all drugs illegal for job security reasons.

[monstermonkey]

Shaking my head.




Yes.

Thank you for the enlightenment.

[HEAT Viper]

The way I see it, if I walk into a store and I see something(s) I want sitting there on the shelf or hanging on a peg, and I can afford it, I'm going to buy it. Once I buy it, it's mine to do with what I please. Open it up, leave in the package, put it up on eBay for 100x what I paid for it, set it fire, whatever, it's mine.

I do believe that collecting Joes is one of, if not the most challenging endeavors for a toy collector. Nothing has frustrated me more than walking into a Wal-mart or Target with money to spend only to find empty shelves/pegs, but I believe that has more to do with a.) distribution and b.)restocking by the retailers--two things that have been covered on these forums ad naseum. If these two elements could be addressed, it would suck a lot of the incentive away from scalpers to scalp Joe figures in the first place.

Also, there are other options. For the most part, I have purchased my 25th-30th, etc. stuff at retail, though for some of the 30th stuff I went online. I've never bought a figure off of ebay (yet), but I found pre-ordering a wave (if I wanted all of it) to be worthwhile and cost effective. Finally, it's knowing what you want ahead of time, working out what options would most likely yield success, and being patient. The most successful hunters are the ones that can adapt. A little luck never hurts either, but all the above are ways, I've found, to increase and improve one's luck.

Again, that's just how I see it.

[punchitchewy80]

hear hear. also hemp paper is the best type of archival paper and the old us ship constitution is it?? the rigging was hemp.

What about the ganja? The only victim seems to be the refrigerator.Alcohol is much more dangerous, yet it's "legal".Did you know that the constitution of the US was written on Hemp paper? did you know that George Washington grew pot? The only people who want drugs illegal are the government and law enforcement. The government wants it illegal because its illegality keeps the price artifically high which funds the CIA's Black-Ops programs.DEA wants all drugs illegal for job security reasons.

[troublemagnet]

Don't tell me coca-cola is harmless. It's a "soft-kill" weapon. It's like liquid diabetes, and the diet shit is even worse.Aspartene is deadly as hell.And let's not get started on Floridated water. They gave that to the people in the concentration camps, too. Were the Nazi's really concerned about cavities? no, Flouride erodes the part of the brain that resists oppresion. It's not a mineral, it's a by-product of Nuclear waste!

[hunger]

1) Hasbro should provide a troop building kit or a packaged assortment that includes either a 4 or 5 figure set with weapons. If you want to build up your army or troopers order by bulk online. It’s the civil thing to do.
2) Collectible or collecting is different to each individual. Some like to collect different size, color, or shaped seashells. Another would like to collect rare swords or guns. Yet another may like to collect dolls or statues. It all depends on the type of thing that floats your boat or sinks it. Action figures (with the exception of variants or exclusives) are not rare in quantity only rare in acquiring them because there are those who crawl out from under their bridges or fly down from their perches to scoop them up. Either way it is what it is I guess. *(NO FIRE WAS ADDED TO FUEL HERE ONLY FACTS WHERE STATED)

[punchitchewy80]

now this is a bitch slap!! and sadly true.

Don't tell me coca-cola is harmless. It's a "soft-kill" weapon. It's like liquid diabetes, and the diet shit is even worse.Aspartene is deadly as hell.And let's not get started on Floridated water. They gave that to the people in the concentration camps, too. Were the Nazi's really concerned about cavities? no, Flouride erodes the part of the brain that resists oppresion. It's not a mineral, it's a by-product of Nuclear waste!

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

Lets not lose sight of what this thread is about. Not the use's of hemp, but the fact that the OP can't find a Catwoman figure to "play" with.

[jaimanstone]

What about the ganja? The only victim seems to be the refrigerator.Alcohol is much more dangerous, yet it's "legal".Did you know that the constitution of the US was written on Hemp paper? did you know that George Washington grew pot? The only people who want drugs illegal are the government and law enforcement. The government wants it illegal because its illegality keeps the price artifically high which funds the CIA's Black-Ops programs.DEA wants all drugs illegal for job security reasons.

How do you expect one to reply to this lunacy?

The tin foil hat group is in the General Discussion area.

PS you're dead wrong:

Constitutional FAQ Answer #145 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net (http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q145.html)

[youdoitimbusy]

A coca cola and meth are much, much different.

Drugs are not a victimless crime. The collateral damage is absolutely prolific in its reach. I work with drug addicts daily. It is horrifying to individuals and families.

What about the 'bath salts' that people have been ingesting? You know, and then attacking children or eating a homeless man's face?

Sounds like a victimless crime for sure.

I'm not advocating for the use of drugs, prostitution, or gambling. I was simply stating that a business transaction between any two individuals is not a crime. That does not make it legal wether it be drugs, or a 44 once drink. I understnad the fall out is much greater from one, than the other. Just like selling joes at an inflated price is not illigal, doesn't mean I agree with it.

[troublemagnet]

How do you expect one to reply to this lunacy?

The tin foil hat group is in the General Discussion area.

PS you're dead wrong:

Constitutional FAQ Answer #145 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net (http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q145.html)

"It is likely, however, that drafts of the documents were written on paper made from hemp. In that period, most paper was made from hemp or flax and a mixture of recycled rags and cloth."

[kneroh]

I'm nominating this for thread of the year. It truly has everything that I look for.

[jaimanstone]

I'm not advocating for the use of drugs, prostitution, or gambling. I was simply stating that a business transaction between any two individuals is not a crime. That does not make it legal wether it be drugs, or a 44 once drink. I understnad the fall out is much greater from one, than the other. Just like selling joes at an inflated price is not illigal, doesn't mean I agree with it.

The main difference is that THE LAW STATES THAT BUYING OR SELLING ILLEGAL DRUGS IS A CRIME.

So YES it IS different.

[punchitchewy80]

this thread would get my vote.

all this talk of hemp is making me hungry.

[troublemagnet]

The government makes vast amounts of money from the drug trade. When drug profits are seized they can be confiscated and used by the government to "fight crime". This is the so called "proceeds of crime" bill. This presents a conflict of interest in my view. If the police know that the proceeds of crime can be seized and used to pay their own departments, is there not a conflict of interest in the sense that the police will sustain the drug trade and then simply swoop in at the last minute to make the bust and take the loot, all in the name of fighting crime? What about alternative medicine, including the use of marijuana, which seems to help to relieve pain for some people? Why should we need the government’s approval before we can decide for ourselves which substances we want to use to treat our own ailments? Is this being done so that we are forced to rely on the medical profession? The pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession want to remain as the only avenue through which people can obtain treatment. Is this right? Are we not free to seek out health and happiness in whatever way we find appropriate?
But what would happen if we did legalize all drugs? The same thing that happened when prohibition was abandoned. Some people drink, some people do not drink. Some people drink far too much and too often. Some people under the influence of alcohol even kill others. The same is true of drugs. But the point is that this tragic result occurs and will occur whether or not the substances are legal or illegal. Those who want the substances badly enough will obtain them one way or another. The lessons learned from prohibition are not lost on the powerful elite who control our laws. It is precisely because the powerful elite, connected with the bootleggers of the prohibition era, lost so much income from the legalization of alcohol, that they do not want to make the same mistake again.
There is far too much money at stake to legalize drugs. By keeping drugs illegal, the demand always exceeds the supply, keeping the price high and turning an incredible profit for all those connected with the drug trade, including governments, the CIA, and the police forces of the world. If drugs were suddenly legalized, you would be able to buy them anywhere, resulting in a huge price drop, and worse than that, eliminating the monopoly which the drug syndicates and governments now hold on the single most lucrative sector of the economy.
I am not promoting drug use. Rather I am saying that drug use will occur despite the best efforts of all the police forces in the world. And as long as it is illegal, there will always be so much money to be made from it that it will be very tempting for any law enforcement group to be corrupted by it. And that is precisely what has happened. The whole system which was supposedly brought about to fight the drug war is now sustained by it.
But chief among my suggestions is that the powerful elite who control our world are themselves profiting from the drug trade, and these are the same people who make the laws we live under. For this reason, the laws are not there to protect us, but to maintain the status quo.

[punchitchewy80]

wow thats a lot of ranting/reading.

prohibition does create revenue for criminals just look at the kennedys.

[jaimanstone]

Did you miss this part?

"A. Urban legend is that the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and Bill of Rights were written on hemp paper, hemp being the industrial name for the fiber of the marijuana plant. For some reason, this "fact" is touted by those who seek to legalize marijuana for recreational use. First, it is not clear why the use of hemp as a fiber should mean it should be legalized for recreational use. Second, the "fact" is not a fact.

The Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are currently housed in the National Archives. All three are written on parchment, not hemp paper."




"It is likely, however, that drafts of the documents were written on paper made from hemp. In that period, most paper was made from hemp or flax and a mixture of recycled rags and cloth."

[Shogi]

I've only skimmed the multitude of pages full of opinions here so maybe I'm wrong, but is the main idea of this story that the OP is upset that he can't find anything he's looking for locally so rather than go to the internet (Forums/Friends/Online Stores) to buy the toys he likes at either a slight markup or for retail plus shipping, he'd rather try to get congress to pass a law making it illegal to buy multiple toys in stores?

How would this law be enacted? I imagine, the stores would use the inventory already in place to track their products and therefore would make it a federal crime to buy more than one GI Joe figure (regardless of if it's different characters since they all have the same DPCI, ISCI, etc... code) at any store.

Tired of going to all the stores trying to find figures? How's it gonna feel when you have to go to all of the stores to buy a whole wave and can only buy one figure per store?

To paraphrase a past president:

"Mr Admin, Tear down this thread!"

[jaimanstone]

The government makes vast amounts of money from the drug trade. When drug profits are seized they can be confiscated and used by the government to "fight crime". This is the so called "proceeds of crime" bill. This presents a conflict of interest in my view. If the police know that the proceeds of crime can be seized and used to pay their own departments, is there not a conflict of interest in the sense that the police will sustain the drug trade and then simply swoop in at the last minute to make the bust and take the loot, all in the name of fighting crime? What about alternative medicine, including the use of marijuana, which seems to help to relieve pain for some people? Why should we need the government’s approval before we can decide for ourselves which substances we want to use to treat our own ailments? Is this being done so that we are forced to rely on the medical profession? The pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession want to remain as the only avenue through which people can obtain treatment. Is this right? Are we not free to seek out health and happiness in whatever way we find appropriate?
But what would happen if we did legalize all drugs? The same thing that happened when prohibition was abandoned. Some people drink, some people do not drink. Some people drink far too much and too often. Some people under the influence of alcohol even kill others. The same is true of drugs. But the point is that this tragic result occurs and will occur whether or not the substances are legal or illegal. Those who want the substances badly enough will obtain them one way or another. The lessons learned from prohibition are not lost on the powerful elite who control our laws. It is precisely because the powerful elite, connected with the bootleggers of the prohibition era, lost so much income from the legalization of alcohol, that they do not want to make the same mistake again.
There is far too much money at stake to legalize drugs. By keeping drugs illegal, the demand always exceeds the supply, keeping the price high and turning an incredible profit for all those connected with the drug trade, including governments, the CIA, and the police forces of the world. If drugs were suddenly legalized, you would be able to buy them anywhere, resulting in a huge price drop, and worse than that, eliminating the monopoly which the drug syndicates and governments now hold on the single most lucrative sector of the economy.
I am not promoting drug use. Rather I am saying that drug use will occur despite the best efforts of all the police forces in the world. And as long as it is illegal, there will always be so much money to be made from it that it will be very tempting for any law enforcement group to be corrupted by it. And that is precisely what has happened. The whole system which was supposedly brought about to fight the drug war is now sustained by it.
But chief among my suggestions is that the powerful elite who control our world are themselves profiting from the drug trade, and these are the same people who make the laws we live under. For this reason, the laws are not there to protect us, but to maintain the status quo.

Does the government and CIA make money on the use of paragraphs? Is that why you shun them?

[troublemagnet]

It's easier to find weed than a Renegades Storm Shadow.

[sharky]

I've only skimmed the multitude of pages full of opinions here so maybe I'm wrong, but is the main idea of this story that the OP is upset that he can't find anything he's looking for locally so rather than go to the internet (Forums/Friends/Online Stores) to buy the toys he likes at either a slight markup or for retail plus shipping, he'd rather try to get congress to pass a law making it illegal to buy multiple toys in stores?

How would this law be enacted? I imagine, the stores would use the inventory already in place to track their products and therefore would make it a federal crime to buy more than one GI Joe figure (regardless of if it's different characters since they all have the same DPCI, ISCI, etc... code) at any store.

Tired of going to all the stores trying to find figures? How's it gonna feel when you have to go to all of the stores to buy a whole wave and can only buy one figure per store?

To paraphrase a past president:

"Mr Admin, Tear down this thread!"
OP's first post said nothing about making it illegal. He was disgusted at the sight of a scalper literally cleaning out the pegs and gloating about how much money he was going to make on ebay. He was just venting about it.

Someone else chimed in a few posts later saying it should be illegal.

[punchitchewy80]

haha not here it isnt im clucking!!

It's easier to find weed than a Renegades Storm Shadow.

[troublemagnet]

Does the government and CIA make money on the use of paragraphs? Is that why you shun them?

Is that the best you got? you can't refute what I say, so you resort to grammatical structure! Admit it, you have no intelligent response, so you resort to the grammar police card. Did you say you were a drug counselour? You have a vested interest in keeping drugs illegal.

[kneroh]

It's easier to find weed than a Renegades Storm Shadow.

Because the kabbalists are hoarding them for the red sash to tie around their wrists.

[Tom-1]

TroubleMagnet, you can talk all you want but you know deep down there's no proof that the government has ever conspired against the American people.

Tom

[Shogi]

OP's first post said nothing about making it illegal. He was disgusted at the sight of a scalper literally cleaning out the pegs and gloating about how much money he was going to make on ebay. He was just venting about it.

Someone else chimed in a few posts later saying it should be illegal.

Just noticed that, like I said, I skimmed :)

[sharky]

Just noticed that, like I said, I skimmed :)
No biggie, I just didn't want the OP to get flack for stuff he never wrote. I can't say that I blame him for being frustrated after seeing all that.

[SonOfMindbender]

Selling drugs is a victim-less crime, as is prostitution or gambling. This doesn't make it legal in many places. I still don't think I'm asking you to agree with me, just my opinion. Your intitled to your own.

Dr Cox - Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY)

[troublemagnet]

TroubleMagnet, you can talk all you want but you know deep down there's no proof that the government has ever conspired against the American people.

Tom
What about MK-Ultra?


Tuskegee syphilis experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment)

[Gyre-Viper]

TroubleMagnet, you can talk all you want but you know deep down there's no proof that the government has ever conspired against the American people.

Tom


At least not the tall ones.

[jaimanstone]

Is that the best you got? you can't refute what I say, so you resort to grammatical structure! Admit it, you have no intelligent response, so you resort to the grammar police card. Did you say you were a drug counselour? You have a vested interest in keeping drugs illegal.

You are hilarious. I just refuted you about the constitution being written on hemp. Rather successfully.

I am CHOOSING not to engage you in the absolute absurdity that is your poorly written diatribe. I'm not interested in ridiculous thrash metal new world order conspiracy theories from someone who professes to hate large coorporations that are a part of the conspiracy yet regularly supports a giant coorporation by purchasing their toys.

[Tom-1]

What about MK-Ultra?


Tuskegee syphilis experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment)

That was made up to scare the Soviets. Everyone knows that. Anything else is just paranoid fantasy. Can we just admit that much?

Tom

[Huer-Ta]

At least not the tall ones.

Fuck you.

[youdoitimbusy]

TroubleMagnet, you can talk all you want but you know deep down there's no proof that the government has ever conspired against the American people.

Tom

Fishing

[kneroh]

That was made up to scare the Soviets. Everyone knows that. Anything else is just paranoid fantasy. Can we just admit that much?

Tom

Paranoid Fantasy is my favorite John Lennon album.

[troublemagnet]

You are hilarious. I just refuted you about the constitution being written on hemp. Rather successfully.

I am CHOOSING not to engage you in the absolute absurdity that is your poorly written diatribe. I'm not interested in ridiculous thrash metal new world order conspiracy theories from someone who professes to hate large coorporations that are s part of the conspiracy yet regularly supports a giant coorporation by purchasing their toys.
You have not disproven any thing I've written.You love your servitude, you blind sheep.

[Jettfire]

Fuck you.

You're gonna need a step-stool. Unless you stand on Tom's shoulders.

[Huer-Ta]

You're gonna need a step-stool. Unless you stand on Tom's shoulders.

Only if Tom let's me sit backwards.

[Jettfire]

You have not disproven any thing I've written.You love your servitude, you blind sheep.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png)

[Tom-1]

Fishing

Camping.

I can play this game ALL DAY, babyboy. Better go grab your No Tears shampoo, because it's gonna get dirty.

Tom

[Tom-1]

Only if Tom let's me sit backwards.

Proposition: Accepted.

Tom

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

This thread was both fun and retarded at the same time.

But I'm sure it's getting to political and will shut down soon. Thanks for ruining with all the ridiculous talk about hemp and government conspiracies.


This thread is so full of fail, it's busting at the seams.

[Huer-Ta]

Proposition: Accepted.

Tom

We should take this act on the road. I'm sure it will be totally victimless.

[kneroh]

We should take this act on the road. I'm sure it will be totally victimless.

Perhaps you two can break up drug rings as you go to support your travels.

[Tom-1]

We should take this act on the road. I'm sure it will be totally victimless.

Not unless we start selling toys. : (

Tom

[Huer-Ta]

Perhaps you two can break up drug rings as you go to support your travels.

That's how we plan on getting our gas money.

And our heroine.

[jaimanstone]

You have not disproven any thing I've written.You love your servitude, you blind sheep.

Let's take a look at your previous statement quoted below.

Did you know that the constitution of the US was written on Hemp paper?

False.

The Constitution of the United States contained in the National Archives is written on parchment.

[troublemagnet]

This thread was both fun and retarded at the same time.

But I'm sure it's getting to political and will shut down soon. Thanks for ruining with all the ridiculous talk about hemp and government conspiracies.

I'm always amazed at the people who get so upset at the idea of conspiracies.Why do they get so angry? Could it be that you've been lied to your whole life, and that your world view is wrong?Is it that offensive to you? I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

[kneroh]

I'm always amazed at the people who get so upset at the idea of conspiracies.Why do they get so angry? Could it be that you've been lied to your whole life, and that your world view is wrong?Is it that offensive to you? I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

I hope when the IRS collects these freemasons they don't sell them for a profit on ebay. That should be illegal.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

I'm always amazed at the people who get so upset at the idea of conspiracies.Why do they get so angry? Could it be that you've been lied to your whole life, and that your world view is wrong?Is it that offensive to you? I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

I'm not offended at your retarded views. BTW, don't believe everything you read on the internets.

[Tom-1]

I'm always amazed at the people who get so upset at the idea of conspiracies.Why do they get so angry? Could it be that you've been lied to your whole life, and that your world view is wrong?Is it that offensive to you? I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

You forgot to say something awful about the Jews, Herr Landa.

Tom

[jaimanstone]

I'm always amazed at the people who get so upset at the idea of conspiracies.Why do they get so angry?

It doesn't make me angry at all. It makes me laugh heartily and with gusto at the lunacy.


Could it be that you've been lied to your whole life, and that your world view is wrong?

No.

I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

You were once a reasonable person?

[The L.O.C.]

We should drag this guy out into the streets of New Orleans for hoarding...

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-collection-showcase/94407-l-o-cs-collection-pics.html

What an ass to support the brand by buying stuff! Let's get him!

[youdoitimbusy]

I hope when the IRS collects these freemasons they don't sell them for a profit on ebay. That should be illegal.

I agree

[Jettfire]

I was once like you, until I saw the light that the IRS was illegal and nothing but a Freemason collection agency.

I wish I could have been there for this moment. Just to watch the crayon touch your frontal lobe as you pushed it up through your nostril must have been magical.

[youdoitimbusy]

I just gotta say this has been a great thread guys.

[Xenos]

Am I the only one that gets an insatiable urge to go buy some toys to scalp whenever one of these threads pops up?

[punchitchewy80]

yep a great thread indeed.

[Tom-1]

Am I the only one that gets an insatiable urge to go buy some toys to scalp whenever one of these threads pops up?

Heck, I STILL have my Range Vipers from the Jungle Terror gattling cannons and grey Volcano Vipers I bought up JUST to keep others from having them. : /

Tom

[nerdsgetchicks]

Wait....What are we talking about? Ohhhh Yahhhh.....TOYS!!!

[jaimanstone]

I have to say, this has been one hell of an epic thread.

[youdoitimbusy]

We stoped talking about toys alog time ago, you just get here?

[nerdsgetchicks]

We stoped talking about toys alog time ago, you just get here?


I never stoped......Stoping is wrong and illegal. I hate stopers!!

stope
noun /stōp/ 
stopes, plural
A steplike part of a mine where minerals are being extracted


verb /stōp/ 
stoped, past participle; stoped, past tense; stopes, 3rd person singular present; stoping, present participle
(in mining) Excavate a series of steps or layers in (the ground or rock)

The process by which country rock is broken up and removed by the upward movement of magma

[troublemagnet]

Wait....What are we talking about? Ohhhh Yahhhh.....TOYS!!!
Hey, Jay, you're the ARAH expert. I just got a watchtower yesterday.Is the clip on machine gun the same one that comes with the 83 headquarters?

[youdoitimbusy]

For what its worth, the conversation wouldn't be worth while if you all agreed with me.

[nerdsgetchicks]

Hey, Jay, you're the ARAH expert. I just got a watchtower yesterday.Is the clip on machine gun the same one that comes with the 83 headquarters?


Yes it is. How you been man!!

WATCHTOWER
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/84/watchtower/watchtower_parts.jpg

HEADQUARTERS
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/83/headquarters/hq_parts8.jpg


The one for the checkpoint is different.
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/85/checkpointalpha/checkpoint_parts.jpg

[troublemagnet]

For what its worth, the conversation wouldn't be worth while if you all agreed with me.
I think you are an upstanding gentleman. I feel your pain about scalpers.I think they do what they do becasue they're unable to find steady employment.

[troublemagnet]

Yes it is. How you been man!!
Doing ok, man. You get anything new recently?

[youdoitimbusy]

You get the pm I sent you troublemagnet?

[nerdsgetchicks]

Doing ok, man. You get anything new recently?

A few things...We better not chat in here though!!! LMAO Don't wanna get booted off again.

I got some 1997 figs. Duke (the one that came with the silver mirage) 100% complete, Snake Eyes (Stars and Stripes) 100%, and 2 new prototypes.

[sharky]

I hope when the IRS collects these freemasons they don't sell them for a profit on ebay. That should be illegal.
This reminds me of something I was thinking about. I was reading that technically, one is supposed to claim income from ebay sales if you made money on something you bought new specifically to sell at a profit. If there is a specific dollar threshold I couldn't find it. I have a hunch most ebay sellers don't do that.

[Dealer Destro]

It's easier to find weed than a Renegades Storm Shadow.

Man I have some catching up to do in here! This ^ is damn near sig worthy! Holy hell you guys come up with some of the most classic quotes at times.

[Dealer Destro]

What about the ganja? The only victim seems to be the refrigerator.Alcohol is much more dangerous, yet it's "legal".Did you know that the constitution of the US was written on Hemp paper? did you know that George Washington grew pot? The only people who want drugs illegal are the government and law enforcement. The government wants it illegal because its illegality keeps the price artifically high which funds the CIA's Black-Ops programs.DEA wants all drugs illegal for job security reasons.

How do you expect one to reply to this lunacy?

The tin foil hat group is in the General Discussion area.

PS you're dead wrong:

Constitutional FAQ Answer #145 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net (http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q145.html)

Not sure about the hemp paper part, but Trouble magnet is correct in his assertion. I mean if you really think about it the war on drugs is a complete failure. When you try to stifle demand curve for a product, you end up giving rise to black markets which in turn gives rise to crime because there are no courthouses or civil means to settle disputes in these matters.

[troublemagnet]

That's what i'm saying. People are going to do drugs regardless. If exstasy was available at Walgreens I still wouldn't purchase or use it.They could put it right next to those Rise of Cobra figures.

[Shipshape1983]

I cant understand why everyone's so impatient. They're just plastic men (and 6 women). Why do you NEED to find them immediately?

I guess you can call me a casual hunter. I only ever check the toy aisles if I'm in a store anyway. If I find what I want, than cool.

if not...eh. no big deal. I'll find them eventually.

Though I will admit that its annoying when someone buys up everything just to sell at inflated prices. But double shame on those who are willing to fork over the money anyway. Thus keeping the circle of blood forever flowing.

If I do buy stuff online, I prefer loose and complete since I open all my figures anyway. also saves me the sick feeling of ripping open a toy thats considered "rare".

[Shipshape1983]

hmm, when does collecting stop being collecting and becomes hoarding?

is it troop building if one keeps all the troops MOC/MIB?

[sharky]

hmm, when does collecting stop being collecting and becomes hoarding?
When whores start collecting?

[bitetheasp]

SMH? Stephanie McMahon Helmsley?

[troublemagnet]

I cant understand why everyone's so impatient. They're just plastic men (and 6 women). Why do you NEED to find them immediately?

I guess you can call me a casual hunter. I only ever check the toy aisles if I'm in a store anyway. If I find what I want, than cool.

if not...eh. no big deal. I'll find them eventually.

Though I will admit that its annoying when someone buys up everything just to sell at inflated prices. But double shame on those who are willing to fork over the money anyway. Thus keeping the circle of blood forever flowing.

If I do buy stuff online, I prefer loose and complete since I open all my figures anyway. also saves me the sick feeling of ripping open a toy thats considered "rare".
I have to agree with you on this one.I have about 130 ARAH figures and another 200 modern figures.I don't NEED anymore.I remember when the wave 4 30th/Retaliation figures came out last December. It was a mad rush and panic to find Techno-Viper,Lifeline, Sci-Fi and to a lesser extent,Law & Order. They were initally scarce.I, in fact had pre-ordered them. But, sure enough, come the middle of February, they showed up again.Even now, you can find alot of these at your local drug stores. Even the "rare" Blue wraith, I got on clearance at TJMaxx.

[Headman]

When I lived in New York I couldn't find shit either.

[A.C.T.]

...just don't pay that ebay mark up. I try not to buy shit on ebay thats at retail. People tryin to make a few scraps off of A.C.T. gets none. They can keep there DG toys(I have all of em) and there $100-150 Footloose, Dial Tone, or Sarge. Exclusives cured me of being a completist.

[Darth_Risar]

the way i see it, if i walk into a store and i see something(s) i want sitting there on the shelf or hanging on a peg, and i can afford it, i'm going to buy it. Once i buy it, it's mine to do with what i please. Open it up, leave in the package, put it up on ebay for 100x what i paid for it, set it fire, whatever, it's mine.

I do believe that collecting joes is one of, if not the most challenging endeavors for a toy collector. Nothing has frustrated me more than walking into a wal-mart or target with money to spend only to find empty shelves/pegs, but i believe that has more to do with a.) distribution and b.)restocking by the retailers--two things that have been covered on these forums ad naseum. If these two elements could be addressed, it would suck a lot of the incentive away from scalpers to scalp joe figures in the first place.

Also, there are other options. For the most part, i have purchased my 25th-30th, etc. Stuff at retail, though for some of the 30th stuff i went online. I've never bought a figure off of ebay (yet), but i found pre-ordering a wave (if i wanted all of it) to be worthwhile and cost effective. Finally, it's knowing what you want ahead of time, working out what options would most likely yield success, and being patient. The most successful hunters are the ones that can adapt. A little luck never hurts either, but all the above are ways, i've found, to increase and improve one's luck.

Again, that's just how i see it.

agree 100%!

[Cdt Weasel]

Remember when a few of us were looking for a mib blockbuster, and then some douche bought the last one and painted and smashed it? That should totally be illegal.

[Dealer Destro]

Remember when a few of us were looking for a mib blockbuster, and then some douche bought the last one and painted and smashed it? That should totally be illegal.

Actually I remember that being very very funny!

What gets me is they actually spammed him and it was a legit custom thread! THAT should be illegal! :P

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

This thread is still alive?

[Troynos]

That was my thought too.