Was CC's mustache real in the old comics?

[GIJoeFan2012]

I see old pictures of CC's real face. He wore glasses and a long mustache. Was the face real or was it just a mask he was wearing?

Also, I'm confused. Wasn't his face badly burned/disfigured in the old series? In the pictures, his face looks normal.

[dmizrok]

not burned....his 1st maskless appearance, it was implyed that the glasses mustache and hair were fake;a disguise to escape the mall that he and Destro tunnelled to....then appearances after that ALSO used the same hair/glasses/mustache combo....so....dont know....just know that he WASNT burned...

[Headman]

He was a blue snake man with thousands of eyes.

[Fox]

He was a blue snake man with thousands of eyes.

Eyes? I thought those were va-jay-jays.

[In Like Flint]

It was a fake mustache- Part of a disguise. But (to me) it looks like a later fill-in artist misinterpreted it and made him look like that again in a flashback.

When he was dug up by his Crimson Guardsman he LOOKED just like them. Red hair and all. And when he's taunting Raptor after they try to dig him up, his smiling eyes visible through his hood holes look just like the unmasked siegies next to him.

I think all along he was supposed to look just like them- Just the thing an egomaniacal leader would do- Make all of his guardsmen look like himself and hide his identity in plain sight... I think... BUT then there's a gaff when Fred unmasks himself in the chopper for Baroness and she doesn't recognize him. Or maybe she can tell the real CC apart from the other Freds... I dunno.

[lowlight27]

It as a fake mustache- part of a disguise. but it looks like a later fill-in artist misinterpreted it and made him look like that again. When he was dug up by his Crimson Guardsman he LOOKED just like them. Red hair and all. And when he's taunting Raptor after they try to dig him up, his eyes look just like the unmasked siegies next to him.

I think all along he was supposed to look just like them- Just the thing an egomaniacal leader would do- Make all of his guardsmen look like himself and hide his identity in plain sight... I think... BUT then there's a gaff when Fred unmasks himself in the chopper for Baroness and she doesn't recognize him. Or maybe she can tell the real CC apart from the other Freds... I dunno.

I agree with this 1

[nerdsgetchicks]

Pull on it and find out! Tee Hee Hee ( Laughs like Japanese Schoolgirl )

[GIJoeFan2012]

He was a blue snake man with thousands of eyes.

That was in the sunbrow movie, I'm talking about the old comic series.

I know unmasking him would probably ruin the mystery, but I wish I can see his true face behind the mask.

[The Commander]

I've always felt he had the stache and ponytail. I think he unmasked near the end of the Marvel run and looked similar to how he did before Fred shot him (although he didn't have the mustache)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1dFeIY5IoH4/S7BLY1Y7VYI/AAAAAAAAAVc/0Iru_go8KzQ/s1600/happyfamily.jpg

[The Commander]

Oh and Devils Due had him unmasked quite a bit as well

[nerdsgetchicks]

I've always felt he had the stache and ponytail. I think he unmasked near the end of the Marvel run and looked similar to how he did before Fred shot him (although he didn't have the mustache)

He did have all that Cobra Commander swagger though!! SSSSSSSSSsssss

[Dolemite]

I'm in with the "glasses and mustache were a disguise" crowd. The real Cobra Commander don't look like no hippie.

[nerdsgetchicks]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/esg94045/cc2.jpg

[Fox]

I like the Fred theory. In the Marvel Unmasking issue when Cobra Commander unmasked himself Destro's reaction was a pretty strong "So what you look like!" it struck me like a of course I should have known reaction.

As Cobra Commander he would forever have to hide behind a mask. He would never see he real face on the cover of a magazine or on the 6 o clock news. If a Fred gained power he could see him that way.

Now about the Baroness being able to spot Fred from Cobra Commander. It is possible that Cobra Commander kept one trait to himself. Like attached earlobes instead detached ones. Baroness would just have to look at his lobes to tell the real Commander from a Fred.

[HartAttack]

I was always uner the impression that Cobra Commander was the original Fred and that the CG's altered their appearance to look like him.

[DrKain]

Well it was the 80s, so in the flashback, he could have look liked that and then shaved later on. Maybe his disguise was that way because that is how he looked before Cobra.

[Knight-Owl]

I always figured his mustache in the comics was drawn.
Could you image if they used real hair in the comics for his mustache.
Gross...

[lazlo76]

I was always uner the impression that Cobra Commander was the original Fred and that the CG's altered their appearance to look like him.
I always thought that too even if the Marvel editors would deny it repeatedly because there are numerous inconsistencies regarding CC's face in flashbacks.

I think he made all the Fred guys look just like him but with minor tweaks that even the Baroness could be albe to pick him out, and to me he always looked like a young Robert Redford.

[Galaxus]

It's clear from the unmasking marvel issue that CC and Destro were in a costume shop, so I would say fake.

[Headman]

That was in the sunbrow movie, I'm talking about the old comic series.

I know unmasking him would probably ruin the mystery, but I wish I can see his true face behind the mask.


He was a snake man!

[chuck x goren]

I always thought that too even if the Marvel editors would deny it repeatedly because there are numerous inconsistencies regarding CC's face in flashbacks.

I think he made all the Fred guys look just like him but with minor tweaks that even the Baroness could be albe to pick him out, and to me he always looked like a young Robert Redford.

When I re-read all the books from 2007 to 2008, I thought the Fred theory for CC's appearance made perfect sense. It'd also help him with concealment and potential assassination attempts.

The bottom line is: we don't know what Cobra Commander looks like, exactly. I think that's a great little twist to his character. I don't ever want to know.

[CobraOfficer999]

Hmmm....I thought 'twas real.

[RolandofGilead]

He's the original "Fred." And Baroness knew it wasn't him because she was one of the only few who knew his secret and clearly by his behavior Fred VII did not. The Baroness didn't have to say a thing as the imposter gave himself away.

[Ford]

To be fair, every face that M.D. Bright drew looked exactly alike. So according to him, Cobra Commander looked just like Snake Eyes, who looked just like Zarana, etc...

[Headman]

Of course it's fake. Comic books aren't real.

[Viperscout 7]

didn't Fred VII come clean with the Baroness before he took off the mask

[Lantern_Lad]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/esg94045/cc2.jpg

I forgot about that series... gotta reread that.

[nerdsgetchicks]

I forgot about that series... gotta reread that.

It is the best. Snake Eyes Declassified!! 6 issues of pure GOLD!

[Money-B]

It is the best. Snake Eyes Declassified!! 6 issues of pure GOLD!

I recently acquired a hardcover copy and I couldn't agree more.

[nerdsgetchicks]

I have 1st prints of the original 6 issues and they are my babies!!! I love them!!! mmmmmmmm

[bitetheasp]

Cobra Commander was not Fred.

Fred Broca was a completely different person.

[Dealer Destro]

About as real as Jenna Jameson's titties.

[GIJoeFan2012]

Am I the only who think the sunbrow voices wouldn't fit the "unmasked" CC and fake bearded Destro? Their voices sound better when they are in costumes. Imagine hearing Chris Latta's snake voice coming out of Marvel Cobra Commander(fake mustache and glasses).

[Snow Wolf]

The moustache was a fake. The head snake and Destro changed out of their uniforms in a costume shop, so CC grabbed some accessories (wig and stache). My CC wouldn't be a disgruntled hippie!

He looks like a grown up Billy...we've all seen CC's eyes when he dons his hood or battle armour. I think he just looks like an average dude with brown hair, and in civvies, CC would probably blend into a crowd of 5.

It's not his looks than matter anyways, it's his ideas and policies. That's why we love/hate CC so much.

[bitetheasp]

As I read the Marvel run, I imagined most with their sunbow voices, except for CC((I imagined the Resolute/Renegades voice), but when Fred VII was in charge, he had the sunbow voice while using the Bale Batman technique.

There were other exceptions, like the Dreadnoks were NOT Australian, Zartan was Arnold Vosloo's voice, Storm Shadow until he was unmasked was the Sunbow voice, but as he turned good, I imagined a different voice.

[Headman]

As I read the Marvel run, I imagined most with their sunbow voices, except for CC((I imagined the Resolute/Renegades voice), but when Fred VII was in charge, he had the sunbow voice while using the Bale Batman technique.

There were other exceptions, like the Dreadnoks were NOT Australian, Zartan was Arnold Vosloo's voice, Storm Shadow until he was unmasked was the Sunbow voice, but as he turned good, I imagined a different voice.

How did you come up with all of these voices in the 1980's? Are you psychic?

[Kaboomskie]

I see old pictures of CC's real face. He wore glasses and a long mustache. Was the face real or was it just a mask he was wearing?

Also, I'm confused. Wasn't his face badly burned/disfigured in the old series? In the pictures, his face looks normal.

Here's Cobra Commander unmasked according to DD Snake Eyes Declassified #6

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/IndigoSpyder/CC.jpg

[Stormgard]

There's a flashback pic of CC with Billy in one issue I forget which one. Billy is akid in the back seat of a car while CC is talking to him about how things are going to get better for them. In that pic, which probably takes place ine the '70s in "Joe time" CC has a moustache, glasses and I seem to remember blond hair.

I think this is the issue when Billy's mother comes back, but I'm not sure.

It's feasible that the long brown hair and moustache look is real -he just grows his hair, and colors it brown. But he might have looked more like a Fred series CG before he did that.

[Jmacq1]

I like the Fred theory, and I suspect the brown-haired depictions (even through DDP) were in fact a mistake based on artists' misinterpreting disguise for real face (and DDP basing off of the misinterpretation).

I'd note that while I agree the moustache was probably fake, the DDP depictions are long enough before those events that he could have grown it in the interim. (In other words, the DDP pictures aren't necessarily incompatible with the "disgruntled hippie" look).

Though I admit I prefer the brown-haired version. He basically looks almost completely nondescript/average, which I think suits Cobra Commander a little better than the Fred series.

[Stormgard]

I always liked the pony tail/hippie look - not nondescript so much as unexpcted and therefore somehow quite plausible.