SDCC helicarrier a foot longer!

[ChadVamp]

Just saw on cool toy review that the SDCC version of the helicarrier is a foot longer then the retail release and going for 125 bucks, what do you think? I'm seeing a cobra flying fortress in my future.

[Troynos]

This thing is NOT impressive. It's actually kind of lame. It makes a good flying deck but that is it.

http://thetoyverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IMG_0918_640x480.jpg

The picture is of the retail version, but a foot longer isn't going to make a big difference.

[Jacklefttown]

Yeah, it WOULD be a kick@ss Helicarrier if you played Heroclix or Warhammer or something. Then it may be in scale, at least more than it is for a 3.75 Joe figure!

[Caravankidd]

I've seen pictures of the helicarrier with the extra foot of length and it really does make the whole thing look better.

The extra foot is between the rotors so that the rotors are farther apart which just looks better. It also adds two side guns to each side which makes the helicarrier even better armed. The color is also much better.

Sadly it still just doesn't work in the scale for 3 3/4" inch action figures. Perhaps with some small scale jets it would look nice, but that's a huge chunk of change for something that will be out scale with everything except something like the Matchbox jets and helicopters.

[Nirvana]

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/toys/30893-marvel-universe-3-75-figures-12192.html#post3704495

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/toys/134244-avengers-figure-discussion-97.html#post3704878

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/203170-avengers-gijoe-compatible-helicarrier-will-your-flagg-13.html#post3704779

[ChadVamp]

All good points, but cobra just doesn't have a playset that really works for the ME so we have no choice but to mod what we can to get what we need. I think buying a SDCC version AND a retail version to kit bash a ultimate cobra fortress is a really good idea. For the same money a guy would spend on a complete terrrordrome that has serious fragility issues, you could work out something that's one of a kind and very close to scale.

[Troynos]

Not even close to scale.

Take a look at the size of a 3.75" figure on the deck of the retail and then add a foot.

You'd have to heavily mod it to make it even 1/2 way workable.

It's only got limited figure space, the two darker hatches lift up and can place a figure in them, standing, and they stick 1/2 way out.

It's not worth the price. You'd do better to make something out of plywood, cardboard, foamboard or something else.

[07GT500 COBRA]

They'd have to retool a Flagg mold to make it impressive imo and we all know that isn't going to happen.

[Jmacq1]

Hell of an exclusive. I bet it's a really small production run. And I bet a bunch of people bitch about Maria Hill not being available anywhere else....

However...looking at the SDCC design, Hasbro missed a big opportunity. It looks like they -could- have made it so that you could buy multiple Helicarriers to increase the length by adding more of those "middle" pieces....if they'd been creative about it.

Alas, it does no appear to be the case.

[will_winkie]

i still plan on getting at least the retail carrier and putting asps/ whirl winds on it and call it a mobile weapons platform, or even trouble bubbles, fangs, and claws with some of the cobra jump troopers. over all i am pretty stoked for this one!

[Scotty97]

I am one of those people who are going to bitch about not being able to get Maria Hill anywhere besides with the carrier. I can't decide if I'd be more likely to spend the $125 if it came with a Coulson figure, or more pissed off that I might miss that one. If we're getting Maria Hill(thank you, somewhat, Hasbro), how can they not give us a Coulson now? He even has the giant missile launcher thingy that they love to shove down our throats.

[RayType]

Yeah, it WOULD be a kick@ss Helicarrier if you played Heroclix or Warhammer or something. Then it may be in scale, at least more than it is for a 3.75 Joe figure!

This. I plan on getting one on sale, it would fit very nicely with my Heroclix collection.

[fireflyguy]

Yeah, this thing looks lame to me. Not gonna be worth the retail price much less the exclusive price for only a foot more in length.

[80s_kid]

I think the thing looks pretty awesome. Quite a surprise for an SDCC exclusive. I was really wowed in the theatre when I saw the Helicarrier take flight in the Avengers movie. Sort of like the chills I got when I finally saw Optimus Prime transform and speak in the 2007 movie. I'm hoping for a similar thrill when GI Joe Retaliation hits theaters. I'm seeing childhood icons come to life. The helicarrier was awesome.

I was not impressed with the retail helicarrier, but this SDCC version looks pretty awesome. I will try to get it for my little guy who is big into the Avengers cartoon and Superhero Squad show. It would be a cool christmas present if I can get it. Here is a pic from the Toyark site.

At 4 feet long, this thing sounds pretty cool. This may be the closest we get to a USS Flagg without buying the original. Wasn't the Flagg 6 or 7 feet long? It also made me wonder - if this sells well, do we have a shot at getting a Flagg in a future exclusive somehow? One can wish.

[Deadaim]

If any tanker is going to comic-con and can get one for me..let me know (PM). I am only interested in the carrier, so you could have the figures and i will pay you something for your time. I am only asking because I am disabled and cant go.

[Jmacq1]

I am one of those people who are going to bitch about not being able to get Maria Hill anywhere besides with the carrier. I can't decide if I'd be more likely to spend the $125 if it came with a Coulson figure, or more pissed off that I might miss that one. If we're getting Maria Hill(thank you, somewhat, Hasbro), how can they not give us a Coulson now? He even has the giant missile launcher thingy that they love to shove down our throats.

Easily: He's a guy in a suit who's now dead.

Hasbro doesn't like selling guys in suits, they think kids find them boring. But if he -did- show up it'd almost certainly be as an exclusive of some kind.

[ChaplainAsst]

About this:

They never say that this is an exclusive Maria Hill figure. It does imply that this is a unique outfit for her (although the precise phrasing could just mean a unique Captain America). If it turns out to be an exclusive, I'm sure online casters will either get their hands on a figure or someone will make an even better version. There are already a few nice customs using Sue Storm's head.

About the toy, it all comes down to what makes you happy. For a diorama, this isn't bad with the extra section added on. Its a nice place to set up your movie figures. For a playset, it stinks. Even at 4', it will only have room for one quinjet and possibly a smaller jet. The problem is that it is not wide enough to function as a carrier - they made it so it would just fit a Quinjet. It is odd that there are not below deck play areas as that is where 9/10 of the movie takes place on the Helicarrier! The conference room, the prison area, the command deck - those are where much of the movie took place. Even the repairs they had to do on the ship were more interesting than the deck! The tower is laughable on this toy, as are the huge cannons. It would certainly be fun for a little kid, but nothing like the Flagg.

[Viper6]

I've seen pictures of the helicarrier with the extra foot of length and it really does make the whole thing look better.

The extra foot is between the rotors so that the rotors are farther apart which just looks better. It also adds two side guns to each side which makes the helicarrier even better armed. The color is also much better.

Sadly it still just doesn't work in the scale for 3 3/4" inch action figures. Perhaps with some small scale jets it would look nice, but that's a huge chunk of change for something that will be out scale with everything except something like the Matchbox jets and helicopters.

what if ya bought two n modded them together?

[VideoViper]

It makes a lovely shelf.

[DaSmokeEater]

Maybe a Sigma Scale playset, that would be closer to working.

[nerdsgetchicks]

Maybe if you put 4 of them together?

[Grippen]

I think its even small for the 2.5'' figures. Its ok for heroclix as someone said.

I think they could have taken a different approach and sell sections of the carrier like Star Trek was selling pieces of the control center with their figures.

Or even more challenging allowing to expand the carrier with additional ones. For example tower could be removable and the engines the same. Maybe the front and back sections also and you could join 4 of them together if you wanted. Yes it would involve more separate parts but could be upgradable.

[VideoViper]

Or even more challenging allowing to expand the carrier with additional ones. For example tower could be removable and the engines the same. Maybe the front and back sections also and you could join 4 of them together if you wanted. Yes it would involve more separate parts but could be upgradable.

actually with the additional piece it may be possible to do that, assumeing the connectors are lined up the same.

[Jmacq1]

I think they could have taken a different approach and sell sections of the carrier like Star Trek was selling pieces of the control center with their figures.

Yeah, because that worked out so well for the Star Trek line, right? The "expanding with additional carriers" idea might be more workable, but "build a playsets" are generally a very, very bad idea, because if the first wave doesn't sell through quite well, then you never get a "complete" playset.

[rafaelwow]

Yeah, because that worked out so well for the Star Trek line, right? The "expanding with additional carriers" idea might be more workable, but "build a playsets" are generally a very, very bad idea, because if the first wave doesn't sell through quite well, then you never get a "complete" playset.

That also depends of the buildable parts.

If the set is made by A, B, C parts, and if the figure of the A part is hard to find I agree.

But if the set is made of lots of A parts, that can be put in different positions, I think would be easier to make a buidable set.

They are a kinda expensive buildable set from some Japanese toy stores that are expandable and interconnectible. It has around 17 kinds of wall and floor combination, some of them fit better to do walls and rooms.

You can look for them online, as mechanical chain bases.

Here are examples:

Mechanical Chain Base 004 | HobbyLink Japan (http://www.hlj.com/product/KBYMB-13)
Kotobukiya Mechanical Chain Base Review Part 2 with Arbalest | Robot Toy & Figure | BMecha.com (http://www.bmecha.com/mecha-robot-toy/kotobukiya-mechanical-chain-base-review-part-2-with-arbalest/)
DuelMasterNG Gunpla: Mechanical Chain Base Combination Guide Unit 1/2/3 & 4/5/6 (http://duelmasterng.blogspot.com.br/2011/12/mechanical-chain-base-combination-guide_21.html)

I have some, and I think with some more thinking, would be possibleto make a wall that has connectors making them connect in 90 degrees to other walls, in order to do floors and rooms.

[Grippen]

Yeah, because that worked out so well for the Star Trek line, right? The "expanding with additional carriers" idea might be more workable, but "build a playsets" are generally a very, very bad idea, because if the first wave doesn't sell through quite well, then you never get a "complete" playset.

Star Trek didn't sell well for other reasons nothing to do with the sets in my opinion.

Regarding my other idea I didn't meant it as you need to buy 4 to make one. You buy if you want if not you can have small 1 only or a 2 carrier version although this one would be weird lol

[Jmacq1]

Star Trek didn't sell well for other reasons nothing to do with the sets in my opinion.

But the sets didn't sell well, either. The point being people don't like buying an "incomplete" product.

Regarding my other idea I didn't meant it as you need to buy 4 to make one. You buy if you want if not you can have small 1 only or a 2 carrier version although this one would be weird lol

I got what you meant. I'd mentioned the same/a similar concept a few pages back. Basically, buy 2 Helicarriers and have it able to mix and match parts to make an "uber helicarrier." Unfortunately while it looks like they inserted an "extender" piece between the "tower" and the main flight deck on the SDCC Helicarrier, I don't see anywhere they might be able to release it.