Your unpopular Joe opinions?

[Raz9000x]

Thread rules:
1. Post your thoughts or ideas about G.I. Joe that most collectors would consider heresy.
2. You can't criticize anyone else's post (but you can agree with/discuss it).

For me, it's ARAH-era Joes. I loved them when I was a kid; I can't stand them now. They look goofy with those big heads, and the articulation and tooling is crap compared to the modern era toys.

Also, I liked the RoC toys. They look a lot better than the 25th stuff, and led directly to the beloved PoC line. I even liked the vehicles.

[kneroh]

Just because someone made it to the store before I did, doesn't make them scalper.

[General Hawk]

Three words:

Sigma Six Rules.

[Raw Dog]

I really like Sgt Savage and Extreme.

[Raz9000x]

Just because someone made it to the store before I did, doesn't make them scalper.

Agreed. I also think collectors who buy vast multiples of the same figure for no real reason hurt the hobby just as much as scalpers.

[Raw Dog]

Is building up an unbeatable army not considered a real reason? ;)

[VideoViper]

If you have several boxes of unopened toys in your basement, you are a hoarder not a collector.

It is OK to bath before going to comic con people!!!!

[Gyre-Viper]

There is no Joeluminati.

[Konigstiger]

For me, it's ARAH-era Joes. I loved them when I was a kid; I can't stand them now. They look goofy with those big heads, and the articulation and tooling is crap compared to the modern era toys.

Also, I liked the RoC toys. They look a lot better than the 25th stuff, and led directly to the beloved PoC line.

I agree with the latter, and most of the former. Though I'll go even further in saying I don't even want to see most of the ARAH designs in the ME lines.

I really like Sgt Savage.

Agreed. Fanboys love to bitch about "they killed ARAH for this?" when the line had been dying for years.

One of my own: Snake Eyes has become the Wolverine of G.I. Joe. Overpowered, one dimensional and everywhere.

[VideoViper]

There is no Joeluminati.

That's what they WANT YOU to think!

[kneroh]

Just because I 1/2 remember reading something 2 years ago that was erroneous to begin with does not mean I know all there is to know about making action figures, distributing them, making movies and/or TV shows.

And liking GI Joe, having a GED and a job at walmart does not make me more qualified to run Hasbro than the people currently doing so.

[Raz9000x]

Is building up an unbeatable army not considered a real reason? ;)

Well, that might be. lol. Troop building is OK.

But I personally know folks who buy whatever they find on the pegs just to have it, even if it's not really a troop building-type figure. I understand their enthusiasm, but something about that doesn't sit right with me.

[fireflyguy]

Just because someone made it to the store before I did, doesn't make them scalper.

I agree.

1. I don't like the Drednoks.
2. While the Sunbow cartoon was great back in the day, I find it to be cheesy now, and would rather watch Resolute or Renegades.
3. I hate Cobra La.
4. I'm okay with RoC.
5. I'm moderately okay with limited articulation on some of the Retaliation figs.
6. I don't have nor do I want a Flagg.
7. I don't care for ninjas.
8. I sometimes listen to Justin Bieber's song "Baby,Baby".

[fireflyguy]

Three words:

Sigma Six Rules.

I never had a problem with S6. I wasn't collecting at the time, but I remember seeing these at WM and I tight they looked pretty cool. The size is probably what kept me from biting. But it's visibility is what kept me looking at the toy aisle which paved the way for me to spot the 25th when they were released. I actually owned a S6 Duke that I got free with other purchases at tru, and I liked it.

[fireflyguy]

There is no Joeluminati.

Yes there is and Tom Hanks is looking for them!

[nilcam]

The art in Renegades is quite amazing!

I don't want realism in the G.I. Joe line.

[Raz9000x]

2. While the Sunbow cartoon was great back in the day, I find it to be cheesy now, and would rather watch Resolute or Renegades.

Right on, man. I picked up the first two sets of the newer Sunbow DVD releases...and stopped watching about halfway through the first collection. The first two 5-parters aren't actually that bad, but the show takes a horrible nosedive after Ron Friedman's initial run.

[Jmacq1]

I think RoC had a lot of awesome figures.

I think the Flagg is a giant waste of space (or a glorified coffee table depending on how you want to look at it).

I think G.I. Joe should still be aimed primarily at kids, and that Hasbro should continue doing whatever they have to do to capture that market again, even if it means deviating further from ARAH or ditching ARAH altogether.

[Lantern_Lad]

Agreed. I also think collectors who buy vast multiples of the same figure for no real reason hurt the hobby just as much as scalpers.

Not defending them, but I do believe that anything that drives up sales actually helps the line.

If you have several boxes of unopened toys in your basement, you are a hoarder not a collector.

I know someone like this that collects Star Wars... it's not fun to look at, it's a mess, and it makes me nuts. But that's the way he collects... what can you do?

It is OK to bath before going to comic con people!!!!

AMEN.

I think the Flagg is a giant waste of space (or a glorified coffee table depending on how you want to look at it).


That's blasphemy! It's understandable, but it's blasphemous!

Mine would be: I actually like Cobra La. There is a place for everything in the GI Joe universe. And I love how IDW actually brought those aspects into the current comic universe... it really worked.

[punchitchewy80]

haha yeah definatley a good reason

Is building up an unbeatable army not considered a real reason? ;)

[youdoitimbusy]

Just because someone made it to the store before I did, doesn't make them scalper.

Now there is an unpopular opinion!

[SonOfMindbender]

I think each individual needs to collect his or her own way. Yes, whatever makes you happy.

I think people that need a blog to go after people on the Tank are pussy's ( I look forward to reading this tonight with all of the anonymous comments).

I believe there is a Joeluminati because I'm that guy.

[punchitchewy80]

i like serpentor and i think the origins of cc and cobra la makes more sense than the disgruntled car salesman.

[england joe]

Confession im a hoarder all my joes are boxed up i buy mulitples of anything.
BUT in my deffence....... i havent got a house an live in a studio appartment an you never know when that extra fig comes in hand with a customisation.
Love all joes especially the modern stuff.
Hate not having a big house to display them all in.

[youdoitimbusy]

Well, that might be. lol. Troop building is OK.

But I personally know folks who buy whatever they find on the pegs just to have it, even if it's not really a troop building-type figure. I understand their enthusiasm, but something about that doesn't sit right with me.

I have to agree with this unpopular opinion. I cam undestand troop building to an extent, even though I don't do it. It does appear that some go a bit over board with things though.

[the odinson]

everything should be opened

[kneroh]

I accept that I can't get everything I want, when I want it and not a penny over MSRP. I also don't think that I'm "owed" anything simply because I have bought things in the past.

[VideoViper]

I don't think ARAH updates are needed, but if Hasbro wants to release an ARAH charactor just give it a updated POC style treatment. Scifi doesn't have to be neon green Zandar doesn't need his pink scarf.

Crystal Ball isn't THAT bad.... I'm sorry I couldn't say that with a straight face.

If you want a Flagg build it yourself, you will be happier with the result.

OSOK is a nice guy

[Cdt Weasel]

Hasbro handles the line well.

[r3v3n63]

The 80's are over, let the anniversary "lines" die and go buy the original if you want it so bad. Joe should progress and always be modern and not some sad, pathetic shadow of it's former self wallowing in it's glory days. That said I've got no problem with an anniversary figure or two sneaked into current lines but I have no intention of buying waves of figures I already own just because they have new articulation. I would collect Star Wars if I want to do that.

Sigma 6 DOES rule!

I try to find something positive about every incarnation of Joe no matter how "off the mark" some lines can get. I understand that Joe is a protean franchise, sometimes it really resonates with me (POC) and other times it's almost alien (Extreme) but just because it may have some aspects I don't currently appreciate doesn't mean I have to hate the whole thing.

[Stryker927]

1 - I prefer closer to real world aspects of GI Joe, military gear, vehicles, color schemes, etc

2 - Serpentor, Cobra La, and the more crazier aspects of Cobra don't appeal to me. I don't collect it. Period.

3 - Crimson Anything is over rated. I get it. They are nice to look at but red vehicles, red infantry, red this, red that takes it all too far. What is this, a British invasion from 1776?

4 - Sigma Six were very cool and I wish that I had room in my collection for them.

5 - Snake Eyes is not a ninja, he's a commando who had ninja training.

6 - Duke gets too much hate because of being mishandled by comics and movies. Duke is the original field leader (always saw Hawk as HQ/operations leader) and should be given more respect. Don't get me wrong, I like Flint just as much but just saying they can be equals or close to it. Joes are always running multiple missions at once anyway, right? ;)

7 - Reading the community's reaction to the Joe movie being pushed back makes me laugh out loud. Sorry. :)

8 - The drama and bitterness in the Joe community between different sites and groups makes me laugh out loud. It's a toy hobby for goodness sake.

[canaking13]

I actually like Cobra La. There is a place for everything in the GI Joe universe. And I love how IDW actually brought those aspects into the current comic universe... it really worked.

I really loved that mini-series. IDW has made ridiculous cobra characters pretty awesome and believable.

[kneroh]

Storywise... Resolute was a disconnected, underdeveloped, hackneyed piece of shit.

[Cobra Terrorist]

I think Sgt. Slaughter was/is wayyyyyyy overrated in G.I.Joe.

I love "Arise, Serpentor, Arise" but the Sarge is incredibly annoying in that.

[canaking13]

I like the IDW-verse more than Larry Hama's ARAH.

[SonOfMindbender]

If Duke has a bigger role in this movie, I WILL vomit in my popcorn.

[Chief CWO]

everything should be openedTrue!

[canaking13]

I don't think Channing Tatum is that horrible of an actor. There's better, but he wasn't what held ROC back.

[punchitchewy80]

I bought so many roc joes from my tru to try n keep the sales up n now i have 6 pp baroness's that i dont need. and it was all for nothing!

[Steve T]

I'm ok with ditching file cards, it's a pain in the butt to have to carefully open a package and then cut out a card when all I want to do is check out the figure and pose it.

I'm also ok with ditching the stands, it is more difficult/ frustrating to display Joes without them, but once it's done they look soooo much better.

[punchitchewy80]

i second this definatley i met the man he was cool but i do like the more modern updated storys even the early devils due issues.

I like the IDW-verse more than Larry Hama's ARAH.

[OreoBuilder]

Storywise... Resolute was a disconnected, underdeveloped, hackneyed piece of shit.

Agree! Very overrated.

OB

[nilcam]

I like the IDW-verse more than Larry Hama's ARAH.

Another sentiment I completely agree with. I especially love the Cobra series and the update to Serpentor. In fact, Serpentor has become one of my favorite characters thanks to his arc on the Cobra series.

[Barefoot Jedi]

Hmmm...

1. GIJOE could go ninja-less. I don't hate ninjae. They're all right. But I could live without them.

2. I like the fantasy/sci-fi elements that have been used. My Joe-Verse is full of them. GIJOE needs dragons.

3. I like neon. No, I LOVE NEON.

[RolandofGilead]

I am really liking most all the new Retaliation figures. Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Cobra Commander and even Road Block look really good to me. I even like all the troop builders, although I have no idea what to do with those Joe Trooper capes.

[skinny]

I hate the term haters
Fanboy is an overused term and should be reserved for certain individuals who cannot grasp reality only.
There are too many off topic posts in threads.
They are NOT just toys.
I never open unless its a duplicate for a custom.
There should be only 30 new figures every year, 15 cobra and 15 Joe
Exclusives should be repaints and kitbashes only not a figure previously unreleased.
Conventions are conventions not a place to sit in line for hours just to buy stuff.
Hasbro Toy Shop in all truth, should be the best place to buy GIJOE product. Fully stocked at all times with reasonable pricing.
AFA is detrimental to the hobby.
Larry Hama is not a god.

[ilzuccone]

arctic destro is awesome.

cobra comander is a terrible character/ toy

DIC gi joe is my gi joe

[hotmitts]

8. I sometimes listen to Justin Bieber's song "Baby,Baby".

Noooooooooooooo !

But anyway;
Gung Ho looks like he sings with Village People.

[Regan MacNeil]

The Renegades Storm Shadow figure isn't that cool.

[bandonov]

I bought so many roc joes from my tru to try n keep the sales up n now i have 6 pp baroness's that i dont need. and it was all for nothing!

Same here, I have Bins and Bins of open RoC figs

[Lantern_Lad]

i second this definatley i met the man he was cool but i do like the more modern updated storys even the early devils due issues.

I like the later Devils Due issues better as well. Hama's was good for its time... but it was essentially a 22-page toy ad. They have no constraints like that. Well, Devil's Due did at the end when they wanted to kill off Cobra Commander in the end of WWIII, but Hasbro told them no.

[Python_Puckman]

Figures over 4" tall are dolls and should be sold with the other Barbies down the pink aisle.

[Flint Faireborn]

I like to consider both 'Crock Master' and 'Copperhead' as members of the Dreadnoks... but some people really disagree with this opinion.

[Konigstiger]

cobra comander is a terrible character/ toy



*nods*

[bandonov]

arctic destro is awesome.




HERE HERE!!!

One of the Best PoC Figs made!

[Lantern_Lad]

cobra comander is a terrible character/ toy


I'mma gonna kick you in da head!!! :D

[AMERICAN_Hero7]

ROC was entertaining and army-bulding is lame.

Also, the new Sky Striker is overated just as the FLAGG always was.

[Python_Puckman]

ROC was kinda good and I like a lot of the toys too.

*dodges flying rock*

[bitetheasp]

I hate o-ring figures.
I love Serpentor.
I loved when the Transformers showed up in the Marvel run.
I love Firefly as a ninja.

I really like RoC.

[KingBiohazerd]

I love to army build dont cry cause you can't afford more then one. I hate people that whine they sould be banned.

[Gyre-Viper]

Hasbro has never screwed you over.

[Troynos]

1. I don't like the Drednoks.
2. While the Sunbow cartoon was great back in the day, I find it to be cheesy now, and would rather watch Resolute or Renegades.
3. I hate Cobra La.
4. I'm okay with RoC.
6. I don't have nor do I want a Flagg.
7. I don't care for ninjas.


^ This

Adding:
-I don't have nor do I want a Defiant
-Sgt. Slaughter should never have been in the cartoon
-Snake Eyes is overpowered



And the biggie:
The membership of HissTank and the other Joe sites make up a vocal minority of the overall Joe fandom and the demographic that G.I. Joe is made for.

[Python_Puckman]

There, They're, and Their are different words and are not interchangeable.

Periods and commas are your friends.

[Gyre-Viper]

This never gets old

http://joegijoe (http://jon.oberheide.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/rickroll.jpg)

[Troynos]

Michael Bay and Paramount did not rape your childhood with Transformers of RoC. They cannot do this because they cannot erase your memories.

[Chief CWO]

Hasbro Toy Shop in all truth, should be the best place to buy GIJOE product. Fully stocked at all times with reasonable pricing.


This! I never understood why Hasbro is out of stock on half it's stuff all the time. This should be a Premier place to buy Joes.

[CTGLinks]

1. I LOVE ARAH Sculpting & Tooling
2. ME Joes look cool but are poor quality compared to ARAH
3. I LOVE Sgt Savage & Extreme
4. Renegades is Awesome!
5. I'm over SE, SS, and Ninjas
6. I Liked the GI Joe movie but wish it did not carry the GI Joe Name
7. My favorite toy line is NOT GI Joe (it's a tie between Micronauts and LEGO)
8. I'd rather have the entire line die and nothing more produced than see yet another reboot of the line that changes Joe History or character history.
9. I am not a racist for HATING the movie Ripcord
10. I am NOT a scalper :P

[Gyre-Viper]

Zarana and Jinx and Kwinn would die at retail. They would peg warm with the best of them. They would keep Arctic Destro warm on the shelves. His Ice-tachments would melt amongst their bosoms.


Point is... just because you say that Zarana would have sold at retail doesn't mean she would have.

[miscreant]

Skin-color-changing masters of disguise, Ninja's who can scale walls with their bare hands, are just as ridiculous as Eco Warriors.
But manythings Sunbow era gets a pass from the fandom.

[vampirexxi]

Wal-Mart rules!! (especially when stocking GI Joe)

$9.99 for a single figure?! why not, that's a bargain...

(wasn't sure if these were suppose to be real opinions, or sarcastic)

[kneroh]

It's OK to utilize your web browser's spell check and even proof read your post before hitting reply.

[atomatron]

Baroness is not a sexy lady.

imagine all the scars, wounds, that thick accent, too muscley (for my tastes) probably.

i get it, but the reality would not be what we imagine

same for scarlett probably too

lady jaye would be banned from olympics for failing gender test, so im not even including her

joe needs some LADIES

[SonOfMindbender]

-The Joe Club could do a better job in the future.
-Scalpers are not this hobbies problem.
-We collect toys, not stems-cells to fight cancer.
-People hate other tankers without learning why they hate them.
-At the end of the day a 12" figure is just a doll to me.
-I Hate COBRA LA and GI Joe The Movie

[spot138]

I HATE Chuckles with a passion!

I can't understand his appeal.
He was a super peg warmer.
He was the lamest (we said "gayest" back in the day) figure of the 80's.
He did nothing in the movie, or show from what I can remember.
His figures all look so stupid.
His name is stupid.
I get the joke.... its still stupid.

GAWD I hate Chuckles!

[Gyre-Viper]

Waiting for Ross is NOT supporting the brand.

[KingBiohazerd]

People that use the term ''Hasblow'' should also be banned. People who always bitch and whine about the price of figuers should also be banned.

[bitetheasp]

Renegades>Sunbow>Resolute>Dic

Rip Cord is white, Ripcord is black

[KingBiohazerd]

Waiting for Ross is NOT supporting the brand.

Agreed 100%

[Jmacq1]

Hasbro has never screwed you over.

Michael Bay and Paramount did not rape your childhood with Transformers of RoC. They cannot do this because they cannot erase your memories.

Continuing on this tangent: Hasbro making a decision you don't personally like or agree with is not "slapping collectors in the face" nor "spitting" on them.

[Gyre-Viper]

Hasbro could most likely beat you in a custom contest.

[Flint Faireborn]

Collecting Joes and other Action Figures as well as creating customs should never be compared to that ‘40 Year Old Virgin’ movie...

[Cobra Terrorist]

Hasbro has never screwed you over.

+1.


There, They're, and Their are different words and are not interchangeable.

YES! Same with your and you're.

Oh, and I really, really wish people would learn the difference between lose and loose.

[Tai-Pan]

I agree with the first post, loved ARAH, but now I'll pass. Liked ROC, thought a majority of the figures after wave 1 were really good. I Don't understand Sgt. Slaughter, wow an exclusive otherwise so what? For me the best line would be POC, excluding Duke.

[skinny]

+1.




YES! Same with your and you're.

Oh, and I really, really wish people would learn the difference between lose and loose.

dont forget "were" and "where" I don't know how someone can mix that up.

[Gyre-Viper]

The first logical answer is not always the only logical answer.

For example... if someone asks you if you've seen their keys... ask them if they're a pianist first.

Point is... just because your argument is logical, doesn't make it valid and complete, and in turn correct.

[Gyre-Viper]

Nothing I've stated in this thread is an opinion.

[Jmacq1]

Opinions can be wrong.

[Lantern_Lad]

Waiting for Ross is NOT supporting the brand.

I don't always agree with Gyre, but when I do, I agree 100%...

Stay collecting, my friends.

[skinny]

post count means nothing and is only an indicator of too much spare time, not intelligence, or actual knowledge of anything.

[Gyre-Viper]

Opinions can be wrong.

That's ludicrous. I'm going to have to double check the facts on those opinions.

[Jmacq1]

That's ludicrous. I'm going to have to double check the facts on those opinions.

It's my opinion that opinions can be wrong and since opinions can't be wrong it's right!

Wait...shit.

Also: Someone arguing against your opinion, no matter how vehemently, is not depriving you of your right to have an opinion.

But I think we're veering away from "Joe" opinions, so lemme try to get back on track:

Snake-Eyes isn't my favorite Joe character, but he's still probably in my top 5, and definitely in my top 10, crazy ninja overpoweredness and all.

[VideoViper]

We need more threads like this so complainers can complain about the complainers.

Snake-Eyes ain't that great.

[grunt0341]

I love this thread! Not only does Snake Eyes go the way of Wolverine in over saturation, but Boba Fett too...I hear he's a bad ass, but besides befriending Timber and fighting radiation what makes him a bad ass. (Note: I didn't read much of the comics.) I love the nostalgia of ARAH, but if I can't be that kid again I want something new that will be nostalgic later so I can be the big kid I am now! Funny how there's so much pissing and moaning about now...Retaliation isn't that bad...count points of articulation versus ARAH...Joe is SciFi and real military and fantasy...I'm a Marine and love the mix. If I want 'real' I'll turn on CNN!

[bloth]

if i want 'real' i'll turn on cnn!

This is what is too often forgotten.

[Jmacq1]

I love this thread! Not only does Snake Eyes go the way of Wolverine in over saturation, but Boba Fett too...I hear he's a bad ass, but besides befriending Timber and fighting radiation what makes him a bad ass. (Note: I didn't read much of the comics.) I love the nostalgia of ARAH, but if I can't be that kid again I want something new that will be nostalgic later so I can be the big kid I am now! Funny how there's so much pissing and moaning about now...Retaliation isn't that bad...count points of articulation versus ARAH...Joe is SciFi and real military and fantasy...I'm a Marine and love the mix. If I want 'real' I'll turn on CNN!

With Snake-Eyes it's basically ye olde comic vs. cartoon thing.

Snake-Eyes was pretty scarce on the old cartoons, because the writers and producers didn't figure kids would connect much with a "silent" character.

But in the comics he was consistently bad-ass. Realistically so in the beginning, and ludicrously so as time went on. Very much a "Wolverine" scenario as you suggest.

But y'know what? I still like Wolverine, too.

[CTGLinks]

Renegades>Sunbow>Resolute>Dic

Rip Cord is white, Ripcord is black

Ah but Wallace Weems is still Wallace Weems : P

[redx24]

i open my toys and still have massive battles, snake eyes is not the best joe. i prefer sgtairborne. and gi joe is best when its over the top crazy looking and not just straight military.

did i do this right??

[beef664422]

1. I actually read this entire thread just now before posting
2. I actually want the Retaliation vehicle drivers, but don't want the vehicles. I see them in Target by my house and talk myself out of buying them almost daily
3. I didn't buy SDCC Slaughter on Ebay at $20.00 BIN with 4.99 shipping because I thought his price would go down.
4. I really hope Scarlett doesn't die in the new movie, and I am glad they are reconsidering Duke's death, because like or dislike the actors, they are too important of characters to just kill off for the sake of killing them off.
5. Due too how many posts in this thread are about spellchecking, I deliberatly spelled something in this post wrong.

[Jmacq1]

i open my toys and still have massive battles, snake eyes is not the best joe. i prefer sgtairborne. and gi joe is best when its over the top crazy looking and not just straight military.

did i do this right??

I think so?

[Xenos]

+1.
YES! Same with your and you're.

Oh, and I really, really wish people would learn the difference between lose and loose.

There, They're, and Their are different words and are not interchangeable.

Periods and commas are your friends.

dont forget "were" and "where" I don't know how someone can mix that up.

Even more so then all of these, the one that really annoys me is when people say "I could care less" when they are trying to indicate that they don't care. Just think about what you're saying! You are saying that you COULD care less, which means that you obviously care at least a little bit. The proper term is "I COULDN'T care less". But for whatever reason, people do this one wrong more often then not.

I love convention exclusives, especially SDCC ones. Some of the best figures we've gotten recently came from SDCC, and I don't care that I had to pay a bit extra to get them. Same goes for the Oktober Guard. They might not be 100% perfect, and I might not be happy with all of them, but taken as a whole I think they look great and I'm perfectly happy with paying the price to get them.

Not everyone can have everything, and I'm perfectly fine with that. There are some things that I want but don't have, and I get along just fine.

Even at $10 a figure, this hobby isn't that terribly expensive unless you make it expensive for yourself by trying to be a completest or by being impatient. Heck, even as an army builder, I still only spend less then 1% of my income on Joes.

[bitetheasp]

Ah but Wallace Weems is still Wallace Weems : P
Two guys of different race can't share a real name, code name, and enthusiasm for the air? ;)

[ero]

The Doctor was kinda fun.

Cobra-La was awesome!

[Raw Dog]

I think Rise of Cobra is a good GI Joe movie.

[CTGLinks]

If GI Joe contunuitiez can be all f'd up then so can my speeelling

[Xenos]

Also, Marlon Wayans was not the downfall of RoC. He was actually one of the better actors in the movie. The downfall was the weak script.

Also also, I love SE, but somewhere around issue 100 of the comic he got a bit too overpowered for my tastes. I love the early comics where he was a total badass, but wasn't infallible.

[bitetheasp]

Retaliation getting delayed may be a blessing in the skies.

[Shipshape1983]

Too many ninjas.

Scarlet should be with Duke.

I LOVE Serpentor!

Destro is black.

Shipwreck should get his own series.

ROC wasnt THAT bad.

[NCR_Ranger92]

I don't like the Drenkots. Seriously, how did they become popular? Last time I checked G.I.joe is supposed to be military. Same goes for the ninja stuff.

Oh BTW, I actualy like Duke.

[bitetheasp]

Also also, I love SE, but somewhere around issue 100 of the comic he got a bit too overpowered for my tastes. I love the early comics where he was a total badass, but wasn't infallible.
This kinda leads into my next thing: THE SINGLE GREATEST PANEL IN THE ENTIRE MARVEL RUN.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh3/thrallofwarcraft/otstu/ninjacheerleaderscorpionpyramid.png

Yes, that IS a ninja cheerleader scorpion pyramid.

[Jmacq1]

Destro is black.


I'm still trying to figure this one out given the half-bare white chest he was sporting.

[atomatron]

getting annoyed at this site.

i make strong long posts, that get no reply.

but inane sht not even related to the threads topic gets pages of banter

i love all you monkeys

[CTGLinks]

Two guys of different race can't share a real name, code name, and enthusiasm for the air? ;)

aha! let me see... I agree it is "possible"
....but not likely.


here's mine....
I HATE GI Joe's lack of originality in the modern age and the lack of continuity of thier characters. Recycling code names and real names is for stooges. : )

[Shipshape1983]

I don't like the Drenkots. Seriously, how did they become popular? Last time I checked G.I.joe is supposed to be military. Same goes for the ninja stuff.

Oh BTW, I actualy like Duke.

But the Dreadnoks arent Joes. They're freelance agents hired by Cobra.

[Xenos]

This kinda leads into my next thing: THE SINGLE GREATEST PANEL IN THE ENTIRE MARVEL RUN.

Yes, that IS a ninja cheerleader scorpion pyramid.

Yeah, that was definitely in my mind when writing that post. Firefly should never have been a ninja. I love what Hama did with Zartan being an "almost ninja", but he should have left it at that.

[Jmacq1]

Yeah, that was definitely in my mind when writing that post. Firefly should never have been a ninja. I love what Hama did with Zartan being an "almost ninja", but he should have left it at that.

Yeah, Firefly really...really didn't need to be a Ninja.

But I suppose after Storm Shadow switched sides they needed someone to be the "Ninja" on the bad guy side.

[Shipshape1983]

I'm still trying to figure this one out given the half-bare white chest he was sporting.

He's wearing a tan shirt.

sigh* fine! CARTOON Destro is black.

[Xenos]

I'm still trying to figure this one out given the half-bare white chest he was sporting.

I assume he thinks Darth Vader is black too ;)

[CTGLinks]

I'm still trying to figure this one out given the half-bare white chest he was sporting.

I agree! white in the 80's through the movies... one thing they actually paid attention to.

[Jmacq1]

He's wearing a tan shirt.

sigh* fine! CARTOON Destro is black.

Cartoon Destro still had the white bare chest....

At least until he switched to the gold mask costume.

[CTGLinks]

Retaliation getting delayed may be a blessing in the skies.

I Think you're right!

[Raw Dog]

I find Sunbow to be more entertaining than the Marvel comics.

[Ruin]

Supply and demand set the prices, not scalpers.

[Ruin]

GI Joe: Rise of Cobra had some very good figures, and the nicest looking figure stands.

[Cobra Terrorist]

getting annoyed at this site.

i make strong long posts, that get no reply.

but inane sht not even related to the threads topic gets pages of banter

Ehhh, that's the 'Tank for you....and getting annoyed at the site is quite popular sometimes!

[Xenos]

Supply and demand set the prices, not scalpers.

This is a good one, and it comes back to something I wrote in another thread yesterday. It doesn't matter what price a store chooses to sell a figure for, it's true worth is what people are willing to pay for it, and that's not the fault of scalpers either.

[bitetheasp]

GI Joe: Rise of Cobra had some very good figures, and the nicest looking figure stands.
I liked the RoC preview/dogtag stands more than the regular RoC stands.

[Raw Dog]

Channing Tatum is an awesome actor and was great as Duke.

[revsears]

getting annoyed at this site.

i make strong long posts, that get no reply.

but inane sht not even related to the threads topic gets pages of banter

i love all you monkeys

and that's why I don't hang out here as often as I do other places!

[revsears]

Destro's MARS and Iron Grenidiers, Noks, Night Creepers and Firefly should all operate seperatly from Cobra, only very rarely coming together by CC's Cash and/or a mutual interest.

[SonOfMindbender]

-I love Battle Force 2000!! The figures not the poor excuse for the vehicles.
-I think Neon Colors Killed the original 82-94 line
-Ross sucks but DG sucks more!
-The classic cartoon is hard to watch now
-The new movie figures make ROC figures look good!

I love this thread! It's very therapeutic.

[fireflyguy]

9. I am not a racist for HATING the movie Ripcord


thank you! I'd be just as peeved if they made Stalker a white guy. I'm not sure how I feel about The Rock as Roadblock yet. I like The Rock, but I pictures someone like Michael Clarke Duncan playing RB.

[sharky]

getting annoyed at this site.

I make strong long posts, that get no reply.

But inane sht not even related to the threads topic gets pages of banter

i love all you monkeys
bor...ring! :D

[MJjoe4life]

I liked ROC, movie and figures.
Limited edition figures does not mean everyone should get one.
I think the club does a decent job.
I liked Cobra La, Lunartix Aliens, and Manimals.

I hope that at this years convention during the Hasbro roundtable, no one asks the stupid question about releasing a FLAGG, Terrordrome, or Tomahawk. That question is such a waste of time.

[jogunwarrior]

I think toys should be opened and played with.

I still think (and will always think) the AFA is a ripoff and should be completely disposed of.

1990 was the best Joe year ever closely followed by 1989, and 1991.

I do not like the Dreadnoks. I feel they were mishandled by Hama from the very beginning.

BF 2000, Eco Warriors, Star Brigade, and Mega Marines were all awesome!

GI Joe ROC wasn't a even a fun movie, it was a terrible movie on all accounts.

Snake Eyes is only good in small doses, and becomes very stale vert fast.

Capt. Grid Iron is awesome!

there are too many Ninja's in GI Joe canon.

I have many unpopular Joepinions, these are just a small sample.

[CTGLinks]

thank you! I'd be just as peeved if they made Stalker a white guy. I'm not sure how I feel about The Rock as Roadblock yet. I like The Rock, but I pictures someone like Michael Clarke Duncan playing RB.

Yep - at least Roadblock somewhat looks the part and can pass for the race of the character he plays. But yeah I would be peeved if Roadblock had been played by a clearly white dude.

[Xenos]

Destro's MARS and Iron Grenidiers, Noks, Night Creepers and Firefly should all operate seperatly from Cobra, only very rarely coming together by CC's Cash and/or a mutual interest.

I agree on this one. It was made pretty clear on the file cards of guys like Destro, Firefly, Zartan and Major Bludd that they were not members of Cobra, they were basically mercenaries, working for whoever paid them the most.

From '82-'86 the only named Cobras were CC, Serpentor, Baroness, Scrap Iron, the Twins, Dr. Mindbender, Wild Weasel, and Copperhead.

[ChicagoScott]

I believe that if Zarana had been released to mass retail in mass retail quantities that she would have peg warmed. I also feel the same way about Kwinn.
I love both characters and figures, but I don't think the market is/was there.

[fireflyguy]

Channing Tatum is an awesome actor and was great as Duke.

I respectfully disagree. He might be a good actor now (I haven't seen him in any other movies), but IMO, he was horrible in Roc and didn't portray duke well, again IMO. I thought his performance was flat. I liked the movie overall, but I thought he was one of the weaker elements.

[jogunwarrior]

I don't like Kwinn as a character and do not understand why he's coveted by so many fans. And yes, I grew up reading the comic.

[ATCVenom]

- I think 'Arctic Destro' is/was a good figure.

- Many toy collectors here need to relearn what it's like to be a kid again.. IE: To sit back, have fun, and not take themselves and everything around them so damned seriously.

- I like most of the Retaliation figures that I've seen.

- I couldn't stand the Joe cartoons as a kid - and still can't stand them to this day.

[spiderpumpkin]

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[Balaclava]

I like the RoC Dragonhawk.

*dodges springloaded projectile*

[Python_Puckman]

getting annoyed at this site.

i make strong long posts, that get no reply.

but inane sht not even related to the threads topic gets pages of banter

i love all you monkeys

I agree. Inane sht rules!

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/jopuckman/Spiderman%20Meme/memeology-com-807833.jpg

[skinny]

You could take the basic story from most comic arcs, and some cartoon arcs, and turn it into a movie without having to drastically change origins or characters.

side note: there are some posts of what people believe to be unpopular opinions in this thread that have posts that are polar opposites.

[IceFlow91607]

I like Cover Girl more than Scarlett. As a kid, I thought Snake Eyes was just okay. (I was definitely a Sunbow kid.) Also, ROC got me back into G.I. Joe, so even though I had a lot of problems with it, I still liked it.

[Digital Ghost]

Heavy Duty is just as good as Roadblock.

[brcthrift]

Raptor fan. CPAs unite!!!

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

I actually didn't mind ROC...it may not be the Joe I'm used to and it may not be the Joe film I wanted...but I felt it was a decent film.

[TARGETSIX]

Commando Snake-Eyes is killer.
Magical Ninja Snake-Eyes is horrible.

Duke as a First Sargent is perfect.
Duke as a Captain/Major/Colonel is stupid.

[bloth]

I don't like guns.

I love GI Joe.

[MJjoe4life]

I like all the single carded retaliation figures.

[Raw Dog]

Duke is my favorite GI Joe.

[grunt0341]

It's 'could have'/ 'should have'...not 'could of'/'should of'...

And just because you're super-awesome-badass customizer guy (or you think you are or were pumped up to believe as such) and you knock out a certain idea or have a certain thing that is 'your thing' doesn't mean you gotta get your balls bunched up just because someone had same idea/thing.
If you didn't Trademark it or Copyright it then go back to doing 'your thing'...quietly

[Lantern_Lad]

I like all the single carded retaliation figures.

Now you're just fibbing.

I actually dig them too... except the Joe Trooper... now there's an unpopular opinion!

[atomatron]

just give me my 25th/ME: Iceberg, Tollbooth, Frostbite and Cross Country and let me leave in peace

[Shipshape1983]

I think Cartoon Destro is a black guy wearing a tan undershirt.
He talks like a black guy, so he's black.

I DO love the ROC origin of Destro though. I think its a great explanation for the "living mask" look.

Comic Destro is obviously a white guy. and he wears a speedo...

typical European..

[skinny]

so much to get off my chest ahhhh

A GIJOE movie (or any movie) could be made that has no explanations of backstory flashbacks or any of the history of the franchise. You dont have to explain 30 years of lore to gain an audience. What attracted the "fans" to the property in the first place should be enough to engage a reasonably intelligent audience with the mental skills to fill in the gaps or research things later. Audiences should not have to be spoonfed every detail, and can still enjoy the main story. no imagination. ridiculously short attention spans. Hollywood feeds on it, no desire to just tell a story. Stories used to passed down from generation to generation it was a rite of passage.

[kneroh]

Commando Snake-Eyes is killer.
Magical Ninja Snake-Eyes is horrible.

Duke as a First Sargent is perfect.
Duke as a Captain/Major/Colonel is stupid.

You don't really get the concept of this thread do you?

[Shipshape1983]

The Crimson Twins are 2 of the top best characters from the cartoon.

[atomatron]

The Crimson Twins are 2 of the top best characters from the cartoon.

i agree, love them

[Shipshape1983]

Shipwreck is nothing without Polly.

[ash50187]

i like duke
beach head needs more fans
i stopped reading the joe comics when it became gijoe starring SNAKE EYES
firefly as a ninja is stupid
adding in the street fighter figures was fun....guile kicked serpentors ass all the time when i was playing with friends after school
i LOVED seeing that ordinary viper whoop snake eye's ass in the idw comic
scarlett and duke 4E

[Shipshape1983]

Street Fighter is one of the best movies ever!

though its not Joe related, its probably more Joe than any real Joe movie will ever be.

[Python_Puckman]

You don't really get the concept of this thread do you?

Guess we need to add "I always read the first post before commenting."

[Xsoldier]

In my Joe Verse, Snake eyes and Storm shadow regularly get shot in the face and removed quickly from an equation. Ninjas don't magically survive missle and IED attacks either.

Chuckles, Crystal Ball, and Cross Country are the best ARAH figures ever made.

[In Like Flint]

1) I think that the U.S.S. Flagg is THE WORST Joe vehicle/playset I've ever bought. I find it to be too big, too cumbersome, and too fragile to do much of anything with. It's a glorified coffee table or shelf to display figures and aircraft on. When I get rid of the thing I'm finishing off buying all the smaller, more practical vehicles and playsets that I really want. Like the G.I. Joe Headquarters, a few ARAH Cobra Claws, and a Slugger. Yes. I'd rather have a Slugger than a Flagg.

2) The G.I. Joe APC is my favorite vehicle. Ever. Always has been ever since I first saw it in the Comic, and finally got a used one at a flea market for 3 bucks back in 85. I found a mint one on eBay a few years ago, sent a scan of the unused decals to Cobra Stickers- got two free sheets for myself and decked the thing out. I love it. I crammed it full of my 25th original 13 and the next few waves after that and just enjoyed the hell out of it. Clutch drives, Breaker rides shotgun. The only thing that could possibly make it better would be getting a mint M.A.N.T.A. (for Torpedo and Rock n' Roll to ride to Coney Island) to store in it.

3) I don't give a shit about Retaliation. At all. I don't want any of the figures, even for parts at this point. I don't care if the movie does well, I don't care if it does poorly. I just don't think of it as having ANY impact on my collection. Because it doesn't. There's more than enough parts out there to make any figures hasbro skipped that I want to make still. And I have almost all the vehicles I want except for a few. And they're all ARAH. Just waiting to find what I want in really good/near mint condition like I did with the Dragonfly, W.H.A.L.E. and the APC.

4) I liked the animation style for Renegades.

5) As much as I LOVED Chris Latta- Charlie Adler makes a better Cobra Commander.

[revsears]

Duke as a leader and lead character only makes sense if he is an officer.

[bloth]

Street Fighter is one of the best movies ever!

though its not Joe related, its probably more Joe than any real Joe movie will ever be.

Agreed!

E Honda fighting Zangeif on the model of the city was my favorite scene.

[spiderpumpkin]

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[Headman]

Larry Hama is the worst thing to ever happen to GI Joe. Only a complete ass would be plucked out of obscurity as he was only to buck the people who actually owned the property he was tasked with selling. Hama in my opinion never understood what his real job was.

[redx24]

i like other things besides gi joe

[Cobra Terrorist]

As much as I LOVED Chris Latta- Charlie Adler makes a better Cobra Commander.

GASP!

Noooooooooo, lol!

[vampirexxi]

Retaliation getting delayed may be a blessing in the skies.

isn't the term "blessing in disguise"?

[CaptainDinobot]

1.) I like Duke the best
2.) I like movie Falcon
3.) Duke should be with Scarlett
4.) Captain Grid-Iron rules
5.) Sgt. Slaughter is cooler than Snake-Eyes
6.) I like Transformers cross over wouldn't mind seeing a cross over with Gears of War
7.) I would buy Raptor and Crystal Ball Modern Era figures

[vampirexxi]

Duke as a leader and lead character only makes sense if he is an officer.

he is as of issue 12 of GI Joe vol2 (IDW run - post Cobra command). If i remember right, they jumped him straight to a COL?

[Sunblow]

1. The Sunbow cartoon is awesome.

2. I have no opinions on the comic book, other than the fact that it is NOT canon. Furthermore, Larry Hama is not God...

3. Duke should be with Scarlett. Flint should be with Lady Jaye. Cover Girl should be with Scarlett and Lady Jaye...

[Headman]

Gyre-Viper is an ok guy.

[Cobra Terrorist]

1. The Sunbow cartoon is awesome.

Love it!

[redx24]

Larry Hama is the worst thing to ever happen to GI Joe. Only a complete ass would be plucked out of obscurity as he was only to buck the people who actually owned the property he was tasked with selling. Hama in my opinion never understood what his real job was.

this sounds interesting please elaborate.

[kneroh]

isn't the term "blessing in disguise"?

That's a popular opinion :D

[Sean_C]

Duke is more representative of what GI JOE should be than Snake-Eyes.

Storm Shadow is probably the most boring Cobra character.

GI JOE should be 3 3/4", not this "we say it's 3 3/4" but it's really 4"+".

Marvel comic's original Cobra Commander should've stayed dead.

Devil's Due GI JOE comics were terrible. Disenfranchising its run was a wise move.

Renegades was a mediocre cartoon. The bio vipers were as goofy as anything on Sunbow, Dic or Sigma Six.

[vampirexxi]

That's a popular opinion :D

i double fact checked that opinion and stick with it :)

[vampirexxi]

Devil's Due GI JOE comics were terrible. Disenfranchising its run was a wise move.

This series is considered alternate universe in the GI Joe cannon. Also, DD was having financial issues and were not allowed to renew the license.

One of the story arcs in this series resembles the scenes from the new movie...Zartan being president, making GI Joe the bad guys, Cobra getting the military contract for the USA.

[MJjoe4life]

I actually dig them too... except the Joe Trooper... now there's an unpopular opinion!


I agree!!!

[bitetheasp]

isn't the term "blessing in disguise"?
Yes, that was intentional. :)

[MJjoe4life]

I liked the DDP comics, especially the WWIII story arc.

[revsears]

DDP (apart from Joe Casey) was the best modern G.I.Joe, and even beat the latter chunk of marvel.

It made Duke as a leader make sense (classified black ops rank) without declaring him an officer that so many people dislike. It even showed him failing (icebound) and really improved that character more than any other take on the property. imo.

It drew in new characters from the current toyline like the Stalls' that provided some new sparks of life into the Joe brand.

It didn't reboot, but ignored the crazier elements of the old run so fans could have it both ways.

Jerwa was the best Joe writer, often better than Hama. (Master and Apprentice, and Snake-Eyes Declassified may be the best Joe stories in existence)

Stormshadow was restored to good and restored the clan. (Granted Casey messed that up, but I think his take on Joe was by far the worst. It's not that he is a bad writer entirely, it just had no idea what was going on previously, no attachment to the characters, and wanted to write Joes as Superheroes. )

They managed to make us care about throw away characters like T'Jbang and Sparks.

So much win there.

[Headman]

It is my opinion that the term "Blessing in the skies" should be used more often on the tank.

[Lantern_Lad]

I liked the DDP comics, especially the WWIII story arc.

100% agreed... I've read that thing 4 times. Just a great story, with an (unfortunately) rushed ending.

[The Batman]

I love to hate Hasbro Toy Shop.com after SDCC.

Meaning: I love to refresh and see SDCC items to add to cart, add them to cart and then HATE WHEN I CANNOT GET PAST THE PAYMENT POINT!!!

At that time it just becomes anger in which I can become green and muscular and try to smash my computer screen.

[CTGLinks]

It is my opinion that the term "Blessing in the skies" should be used more often on the tank.

I concur... weird

[CTGLinks]

I think the Collector Club selling out of non-attendee exclusives in 3 hours means that they certainly didn't meet the demand... by doing so the last 2 years I now couldn't give a rats ass about Collector Club and Convention exclusives and will not attempt buying anymore and will sell off all my old ones... they are no longer considered a part of my "complete" collection,,, F 'em

[sharky]

Hasbro should have gone out on a high note and ended the main toy line with the 30th stuff.

[Omega 8]

For me, it's ARAH-era Joes. I loved them when I was a kid; I can't stand them now. They look goofy with those big heads, and the articulation and tooling is crap compared to the modern era toys.

Agreed, in fact I can barely look at some of the 25th stuff now. I'm a slave to the new and hot shit.

Just because someone made it to the store before I did, doesn't make them scalper.

Boom!

Three words:

Sigma Six Rules.

Same page, my brother.

[Crimson Rage]

Eco-Force was actually pretty damn cool, especially the Cobras.

[Omega 8]

Storywise... Resolute was a disconnected, underdeveloped, hackneyed piece of shit.

And, it kicked ass.

[Omega 8]

I think Sgt. Slaughter was/is wayyyyyyy overrated in G.I.Joe.

Agreed.

[CTGLinks]

Hasbro should have gone out on a high note and ended the main toy line with the 30th stuff.

Agreed!

[MJjoe4life]

I liked that in the DDP comics that Snake Eyes helped the guy who became Cobra Commander. It was cool to see their past more intertwined.

[Derek]

It's time for Snake Eyes to die.

[Omega 8]

^ This

Adding:
-I don't have nor do I want a Defiant
-Sgt. Slaughter should never have been in the cartoon
-Snake Eyes is overpowered

And the biggie:
The membership of HissTank and the other Joe sites make up a vocal minority of the overall Joe fandom and the demographic that G.I. Joe is made for.

A-fucking-men...

Zarana and Jinx and Kwinn would die at retail. They would peg warm with the best of them. They would keep Arctic Destro warm on the shelves. His Ice-tachments would melt amongst their bosoms.

Point is... just because you say that Zarana would have sold at retail doesn't mean she would have.

But, *I* would have bought her!!!

It's OK to utilize your web browser's spell check and even proof read your post before hitting reply.

Grammar is not important ....... ;)

Waiting for Ross is NOT supporting the brand.

TROOF

Heavy Duty is just as good as Roadblock.

LOL!

Now you're just fibbing.

I actually dig them too... except the Joe Trooper... now there's an unpopular opinion!

Me too, I love the way he looks but the fig is actualy pretty shitty and I, surprisingly, hate all 3 of his long guns

1.) I like Duke the best
2.) I like movie Falcon
3.) Duke should be with Scarlett
4.) Captain Grid-Iron rules
5.) Sgt. Slaughter is cooler than Snake-Eyes
6.) I like Transformers cross over wouldn't mind seeing a cross over with Gears of War
7.) I would buy Raptor and Crystal Ball Modern Era figures

I've never seen a post i disagreed with more....

[Splintershins]

I like Hasbro.

[Shipshape1983]

I think movie Zartan is awesome.

[MJjoe4life]

I think movie Zartan is awesome.

Me too!

[RogueReSCuE]

I am not a collector, order, or scalper.

I respect all tankers, but I don't display my Joe's (except for group photos)

I play G.I. Joe with my son and my daughter it's the most fun I can have as a dad

As much as we like the awesome stuff that comes out G.I. Joe is ultimately something we need to give to our children and kids everywhere and pass it along not just have 30 alley vipers sitting on a shelf somewhere

I like collectors in a lot of you is keeping G.I. Joe alive

But instead of looking at shelves, troop builders and excessive amounts of vipers, the real joy in all of it comes from the times I spend with my son sharing my childhood with his

[misfit1015]

most of the Battle Corps era stuff was pretty damn cool.

including Street Fighter 2, Star Brigade, DEF, Headhunters,Mega Marines, Sound Attack and Eco Warriors

[Xenos]

I think movie Zartan is awesome.

I agree 100%. He was the best part of the whole movie.

[mattymatt]

I despise ninja in all forms, I understand having martial arms training but with the optics and sensors you have available today Storm shadow would always be caught, so would snake eyes sorry

[Cdt Weasel]

Retaliation getting delayed may be a blessing in the skies.

That wouldn't be a disguised blessing now would it?

[Cdt Weasel]

Oh, I dont think the original marvel comics are all that great today.

[Black Llama]

I like Ninja Force.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/7/2/3/7/9/webimg/323253335_tp.jpg

[Lantern_Lad]

I like Star Brigade.

... And Headman (the character... the Tanker, I'm kind of indifferent) :D

[Scorpion]

1) I think the Fang Boat is superior to the Water Moccasin in terms of color, but I still call it the Water Moccasin.
2) I don't even care that Ripcord was black....I just hate that it was Marlon Wayans.
3) I like ninjas in G.I. Joe, but sparingly
4) I agree with whoever said they preferred Charlie Adlard as Cobra Commander over Chris Latta
5) I think Sienna Miller looked like a terrible actress in a black wig, not hot and 'exotic' like the Baroness should.
6) I think Renegades started out weak, but ended really well and would be a good prequel for an ARAH styled series.

[Headman]

I like Star Brigade.

... And Headman (the character... the Tanker, I'm kind of indifferent) :D

Mother f##KER!

[Lantern_Lad]

mother f##ker!

:D

Sorry Headman!

[Headman]

I think if dinner costs more than $50 she should be required to put out.

[rnstrait]

I think if dinner costs more than $50 she should be required to put out.

I could not agree more !!!!!

[Ruin]

This is a good one, and it comes back to something I wrote in another thread yesterday. It doesn't matter what price a store chooses to sell a figure for, it's true worth is what people are willing to pay for it, and that's not the fault of scalpers either.

Right. Also, the people here that advocate that we all ignore the "scalpers" aren't dealing properly with the notion of the scarcity. In the end, if there's 100000 Renegades storm shadows and 200,000 are demanded, there are going to be a hundred thousand desires not fullfilled. If we were to boycott the scalpers, it would drive down prices long enough for the whiners to have a shot at them, but then a number of people willing to pay more would have missed out in favor of the entitled whiners.

[SGT Long]

One of my own: Snake Eyes has become the Wolverine of G.I. Joe. Overpowered, one dimensional and everywhere.

I like your analogy. It became a desease of sorts. Only way you could have a character get his backstory developed back then...was to have him wear a mask and be mysterious.

[samantha]

I liked ROC. :) and having 100 Snake Armors does not make one a Hoarder. :D

[Adamantite]

I think 87-91 were the best years of ARAH.

I don't care for comic-only characters like Billy, Fred, Shooter, Kwinn, etc.

[gruppenfuhrer88]

I think 87-91 were the best years of ARAH.

I don't care for comic-only characters like Billy, Fred, Shooter, Kwinn, etc.

I agree with this.

[spiderpumpkin]

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[Shipshape1983]

I think if dinner costs more than $50 she should be required to put out.

Just her dish or yours and hers combined?

[Beckley]

Sgt Slaughter sucks

[Iok]

Despite its name GI Joe - at least the 3 3/4'' line - isn't the military toy line many people think it is, nor should it be.

[Woundwort]

1 - I liked the Devil's Due run of the comic. Better than 116-178 of ARAH
2 - Duke is one of my favorite Joes. He's the only Sideshow character I've bought
3 - I liked ROC
4 - I liked Channing Tatum as Duke in ROC
5 - Not really a fan of the Drednoks

[CVdelgado]

marlon wayans was not the problem with roc, but he shoulda played alpine.

[nilcam]

Despite its name GI Joe - at least the 3 3/4'' line - isn't the military toy line many people think it is, nor should it be.

I couldn't agree more!

[Firebomber8]

I hate that Duke boss's, Flint and Falcon around when they both out rank him!

[troublemagnet]

Renegades Storm Shadow is overrated.
If the DG Joes went to mass retail, they would peg warm.
Roddy Piper should have never been an exclusive Joe.
GIJoe needs more new female characters.
Some tankers need to have other hobbies/interests other than Joe. (I collect thrash metal cds and vinyl)
Joe needs a new cartoon for Saturday mornings

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Sgt Slaughter sucks

I also agree with this, Sgt. Slaughter is quite the thimbledick.

[samantha]

I liked Marlon Wayanes in ROC.

[RogueReSCuE]

I hate that Duke boss's, Flint and Falcon around when they both out rank him!

In the Army, 1SG always run things. Officers make plans and power point slides

[chuckernaut]

if i get there and there are 5 troopers/army builders that i like (OF ANY KIND ) im buying em all! hurray for mee FU

[Dangerjoe]

I love the 12" GIJoes, the 70's and 90's era 12" Gijoes, are some of the best ever made
I really like Duke, and I think Snake Eye is way over rated
I love Sigma 6 and Sgt Savage, Extreme was a pile of poo
While I think the marvel comic started out good, Hama really ruin it by the end
Firefly should never be a ninja
I always root for Stormshadow, when him and Snake eyes duel

[Zarana]

Gi Joe is the code name of a daring, but completely untrained special mission force. Anyone can join, guys who don't own shirts or shoes, girlfriends, or even terrorists.

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Gi Joe is the code name of a daring, but completely untrained special mission force. Anyone can join, guys who don't own shirts or shoes, girlfriends, or even terrorists.

Dude, don't forget, everyone is a commando ninja! Some Joes even become the most coveted and highly feared ultimate commado ninjas!

[chuckernaut]

It's time for Snake Eyes to die.

Amen

[Dropkick]

1) I love the Zombie Viper, I wish they would make variants of it.
2) Hasbro should put out less characters in each wave & only give us a new Duke, Snake Eyes or Cobra Commander ever few years. Focus on other characters Hasbro.
3) Sigma Six rocked & I miss it. It was better than the 25th Anniversary waves.
4) The Flagg is a great vehicle and all but seriously people, it's not all that & a bag of chips. Get over it, they are never making another one.

[ROC Solid Snake]

Duke was the best man for Scarlett, and the best leader for the Joes.

[allen dane]

waves of toys should be only once a year. That way kids have one year to find the stuff. They could see the toys at school when their friends show it off, and then ask for it for their birthdays or Christmas/holidays . adults rag on kid's attention spans, but then give those kids a one month window to gain interest in a toy line before removing it and sending it to TJ maxx

[lazlo76]

Instead of a new G.I.Joe TV cartoon I would prefer maybe a high quality animated DTV G.I.Joe adventure once a year sort of how Marvel/DC do their animated DVD's.

[Shipshape1983]

Hasbro needs to buy the right to the Corps! and officially make them a part of GI Joe.

[agent888]

I think Sgt. Slaughter was/is wayyyyyyy overrated in G.I.Joe.

I love "Arise, Serpentor, Arise" but the Sarge is incredibly annoying in that.

I'll see your "overrated" and raise you a "Treasonous Bastard".

[Shipshape1983]

I hate that Duke boss's, Flint and Falcon around when they both out rank him!

Falcon totally tries to pull rank in the movie though.

Typical officer.

[In Like Flint]

thank you! I'd be just as peeved if they made Stalker a white guy. I'm not sure how I feel about The Rock as Roadblock yet. I like The Rock, but I pictures someone like Michael Clarke Duncan playing RB.

Holy Crap-! Michael Clarke Duncan would have been a freakin' awesome Roadblock... Damn. Damn. Damn it.

[Headman]

...and very colorful.

http://pictures.roboskull.com/2012/jan/toxo/xl/IMG_0090.JPG

Can I have one of your toxo labs?

Just her dish or yours and hers combined?

I'm talking about the total for both meals. $50 is a lot of money these days.

[Zoomie2001]

1) I hate O-ring Joes and I like the new articulation.
2) I don't like how the Joes do not follow any of their rank structure. They are still in the military, y'know...
3) Duke should have been portrayed as more of a hard-ass soldier and not the powder-puff first shirt as he was in the cartoon.

[Headman]

Duke was the best man for Scarlett, and the best leader for the Joes.

Couldn't agree more.