It's Official GIJOE Retaliation Wave 2 And 3 Cancelled

[DESTRO]

It's Official GIJOE Retaliation Wave 2 And 3 Cancelled

We regret that Hasbro has sent an e-mail this morning stating that Wave 2 & Wave 3 have in fact been cancelled until March 2013. The only Retaliation items we will see this year is the little Wave 1 product that are currently in stores now.

Thanks to http://www.kokomotoys.com/ for the heads up.

[Huer-Ta]

I'm so glad I prdered a Ninja Duel Snake Eyes from China. However no Dark Ninja makes ma Sad-Ta...

[kennywr22]

I got a wave 2 roadblock coming. Glad I bought him.

[Griff]

Meh...No sweat offa my back. I'm Focusing on MOTUC and Transformers stuff anyways.

[Nemesis_Enforcer]

Well it looks like I'll be adding to my vintage collection until March of next year.

[Hit & Run]

I assumed this would happen. Hopefully they are released in March then. Think there were 4 figures I wanted from those two waves.

[Beckley]

My heart will go on

[RolandofGilead]

Still waiting to hear the same from BBTS but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

[memphis01]

Anyway, still have a lot of troop builders from ROC, POC and 30th to buy.

[Lantern_Lad]

SHOCKING!!!

Yeah, not really...

[bandonov]

DAmn It DAmn it Damn it!

[Superion]

So, will Target clearance out Wave 1 and give the pegs to another line?

[Syn3sthesia]

Really devastating news. How am I supposed to continue on?

[ceraurus]

Crap! There was a custom I really wanted to make this summer!

[rfarrell22]

oh well, at least i wont have an $800 charge from bbts....

[Hellion42]

I assumed this would happen. Hopefully they are released in March then. Think there were 4 figures I wanted from those two waves.

This. I'm sure we'll see them at some point... Unless February rolls around and Paramount decides what the movie REALLY needs is Smell-o-vision to make it pop. Then we might be in trouble.

[Cobra Terrorist]

Well, at least we can all stop speculating about it - and turn our attention to bitching about it!:D


But no, I think we all knew this was the case. Oh well...

[Zarana]

But have they said anything about wave 4? Without having it spelled out for me I will just have to create a conspiracy theory.

[Laser Viper]

I'll get what i can now and just start picking up on other stuff until next year.

Does anyone know if hasbro will re-release Wave 1 for next year? Or is retailers just keep stocking it until wave 1 is gone?

[cmderinchief]

Maybe we will see these in 2013 but before March??

[VideoViper]

Does anyone know if hasbro will re-release Wave 1 for next year? Or is retailers just keep stocking it until wave 1 is gone?

Your guess is as good as anybody's, but I would suspect they might reorder what comes in each 2013 wave

[bandonov]

Well, at least we can all stop speculating about it - and turn our attention to bitching about it!:D


But no, I think we all knew this was the case. Oh well...

Bitching about them is far more better then collecting them

[Headman]

Will Santa still be able to get them for Christmas? I figure he's got his connections.

[Trooper618]

Wow talk about shooting ones self in the foot.

[GeneralxRon]

Ebay will be busy for 9 months

[brock Samson]

I foresee the current peg stock selling out. They'll start popping up on ebay and the gotta have it now people will pay premiums rather than wait 9 months for crappy figures. The only figures worth having are the red ninja and joe trooper. Maybe the Zartan as it's a faithful mold of the renegades (which I'm not a fan) if people are willing to forgive the lack of articulation.

My predictions:

The joe trooper will probably hit $30 bucks a figure within a month from now.

The red ninja will fetch a little less since there will be loose 3 pack versions available.

The 3 pack version of roadblock will fetch a premium loose.

The 3 pack with BH, Kamakura and Rock will fetch a premium.

[Gyre-Viper]

This Storm Shadow should be canceled forever.





http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified3/DSC_0285.jpg

[bandonov]

Will Santa still be able to get them for Christmas? I figure he's got his connections.

Maybe the Easter bunny might have better luck?

[tycondrius]

well bbts still has em up for pre-order. damn those lucky to get the FF and Roadblock

[Disrup]

I had a feeling this would happen. Now i can get some more vintage figures and a couple sideshow pieces.

[Huer-Ta]

This Storm Shadow should be canceled forever.





http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified3/DSC_0285.jpg

Any idea if this may affect the Dollar General repaint wave at all?

[46 Zone]

Damn.

For the optimist, maybe, they will add another wave of 30th ann. figures for X-mas featuring Kwinn.

For the pessimist, there will be no Joe product out for X-mas, and the line will be cancelled when the movie gets cancelled in February.

[Lody]

So when we don't see them at retail in March (and we won't mark my words)...we will have to wait until they hit Ross 6-9 months later.

My wallet thanks me.

[46 Zone]

This Storm Shadow should be canceled forever.





http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified3/DSC_0285.jpg

Left or right? I hope you mean the figure on the left.

[bandonov]

I just got my email from BBTS to go and Order Wave 3 now...

[Gyre-Viper]

Any idea if this may affect the Dollar General repaint wave at all?


Dunno. But that would suck.

[Dragasses]

makes ma Sad-Ta...
hawesome. I see what you did there.

Will Santa still be able to get them for Christmas? I figure he's got his connections.
figure connections, even.

This Storm Shadow should be canceled forever.


http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified3/DSC_0285.jpg
wait, I thought that was the one you liked there, goggs? or was it this dude?

http://www.hisstank.com/database/attach/4/1/7/2/7/002Storm-Shadow-Retaliation-Movie_1333654246.jpg

[Lantern_Lad]

Well, at least we can all stop speculating about it - and turn our attention to bitching about it!:D


But no, I think we all knew this was the case. Oh well...

Like the bitching wouldn't have happened anyway?

That's what happens on the Tank... things get bitched about. You've been around long enough to know that! :D

[Bionic Commando]

Whats up with people saying prices will shoot up for this and that?People really can't wait till they show up in full force on the pegs next year?Yes some of these army builder figures are great but they are still movie toys and they should have a lot out when the movie finally hits.I take this 9 month layover a blessing to save money

[Gyre-Viper]

Left or right? I hope you mean the figure on the left.



Hheheh. The one that looks like he sneezed art deco.

[Huer-Ta]

hawesome. I see what you did there.

I try :)

wait, I thought that was the one you liked there, goggs? or was it this dude?

http://www.hisstank.com/database/attach/4/1/7/2/7/002Storm-Shadow-Retaliation-Movie_1333654246.jpg

Personally, I love this Storm Shadow. I upgraded his gear a bit, but the sculpt is wonderful IMO.

[kennywr22]

Hey gyre-viper, I'm so desperate I just bought that storm shadow for 15.99. Lol.

[Gyre-Viper]

hawesome. I see what you did there.


figure connections, even.


wait, I thought that was the one you liked there, goggs? or was it this dude?

http://www.hisstank.com/database/attach/4/1/7/2/7/002Storm-Shadow-Retaliation-Movie_1333654246.jpg


I much more prefer that one ^^^^.

[46 Zone]

I just got my email from BBTS to go and Order Wave 3 now...

I just ordered it too. Hopefully, it will go through.

[Dragasses]

I much more prefer that one ^^^^.
yup.

[RolandofGilead]

You do realize that panic will only make it even harder to find product in the stores and raise eBay prices even higher. Just shut up about it and pretend we don't care.

[GeneralxRon]

I just got my email from BBTS to go and Order Wave 3 now...

But Joel emailed me too...

BigBadToyStore.com Search (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=GI+Joe+Retaliation+3.75%22+Figu res&utm_source=retail_news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BigBadToyStore-Retail&utm_content=)



GI JOE RETALIATION SERIES 03 - CASE, SINGLES
The third GI Joe Movie Case is to include Snake Eyes, Flint, Ninja Duel Snake Eyes, Firefly, Sneak Attack Storm Shadow, Cyber Ninja "Wraith", Joe Colton, Red Cobra Trooper, Dark Ninja Warrior and Lady Jay, along with two of Battle Kata Roadblock, and is listed at $114.99. In addition, many of the figures are listed singly, so you can pick and choose your favorites.

[Black Swan]

Let the bitchin' commence!

What a revoltin' development !
Hasbro ! Why has you fosaken me!
This week has been full of ups and downs!

Once wave 1 has sold through if it hasn't already, ebay, and other choice places will be only place left to find Joes.

Guess I will just focus all my other lines MOTUC,MU,SW,HALO...

[ero]

Really hope they can rush out a filler wave or two, either in 30th packaging or in some ARAH packaging.

[Jay West]

It's pretty much a given Wave 2 exists right? So I assume it will start popping up fairly heavily on eBay.

[Repeater_24]

Well thats sucks. Hopefully other than red ninja and gi joe trooper we dont see wave one stuff again after whats out there dries up.

[MJjoe4life]

Well i will just concentrate on getting all the wave 1 items and then i will have more money to devote to the subscription line (if it happens) and SDCC now. It will give me time to get my collection straight and make room for more, lol.

[Python_Puckman]

BOOOOOO!

Well, that will give them plenty of time to analyze the sales of wave 1, determine they are flying off the shelves, and have hundreds of thousands more made in time for the movie, only to have them sit because we've already gotten our fill of them.

[Griff]

You do realize that panic will only make it even harder to find product in the stores and raise eBay prices even higher. Just shut up about it and pretend we don't care.

Who's pretending? I actually DON'T care...I have MOTUC and TF's...GI JOE CAN take a river raft down the porcelin whirlpool to the Land of the lost for all I care :D

[Hellion42]

BOOOOOO!

Well, that will give them plenty of time to analyze the sales of wave 1, determine they are flying off the shelves, and have hundreds of thousands more made in time for the movie, only to have them sit because we've already gotten our fill of them.

It's like you can see the future or something. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/eek.gif

Don't forget about how the $10 price point is going to be set in stone as a result as well. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/shakefist.gif

[spiderpumpkin]

Well it looks like I'll be adding to my vintage collection until March of next year.

I hope only a select few feel this way. No need for everyone to rush into buying old stuff and increasing prices and demand.

[Beckley]

Personally, I love this Storm Shadow. I upgraded his gear a bit, but the sculpt is wonderful IMO.

And that there says it all- Retaliation is all about touching up, modding, upgrading, and tweaking.
Is there any Retaliation figure that doesn't require some kind of "fix"?
How much "tweaking" did 30th Anniversary figures require?

And with the prices figures are going for at retail, that's why I'm not too concerned about these guys getting bumped back.
A $9- $11 figure shouldn't require any touching up.

[spiderpumpkin]

You do realize that panic will only make it even harder to find product in the stores and raise eBay prices even higher. Just shut up about it and pretend we don't care.

People are actually invested emotionally enough in wave 1 to panic?

[Hellion42]

A $9- $11 figure shouldn't require any touching up.

I said the same thing about the $25-ish subscription figures and was tarred and feathered. If you see a vat of boiling oil shadowing you, make a run for it. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/panic.gif

[CrimsonGuard101]

So should I epexct a full refund on my 5 wave 2 red ninjas I pr-ordered/charged for from Kokomo then back on april 30th? I better get my money back(no store credit as they have nothign I want at this point) or it will be the last time i order from them...I have received no communication form them about any cancellations...

[Jeffrozup]

I am going out to buy all the retaliation figures I can now. Joe fever will catch on in a few months with no product out there and will be in demand :D

[JustinX]

Any word on the SDCC exclusives? It makes sense to release the Shockwave but maybe not the Jinx?

[CobraScream]

I am keeping my pre orders. Hasbrotoyshop shipped my Vehicles and I expect Wave 2 to pop up in some form somewhere as they have already shown up on ebay.

[Snow Wolf]

Crummy news, but thanks for the heads up!

The only wave 2 figures I plan on getting are Firefly & Flint (wave2) & Colton, Lady Jaye, Black Ninja (from wave 3), so I can wait for those.

I am glad I went and picked up a whack load of movie figures and vehicles overe the last two days. Still going to go out and look for a blue CC, a Joe Trooper with blue accessories though.

It's Official GIJOE Retaliation Wave 2 And 3 Cancelled

We regret that Hasbro has sent an e-mail this morning stating that Wave 2 & Wave 3 have in fact been cancelled until March 2013. The only Retaliation items we will see this year is the little Wave 1 product that are currently in stores now.

Thanks to Kokomo Toys & Collectibles (http://www.kokomotoys.com/) for the heads up.

[Xenos]

Any word on the SDCC exclusives? It makes sense to release the Shockwave but maybe not the Jinx?

The Jinx is really comic book based more so then movie based. It's on a 25th Anniversary styled card and it has comic art on the back. Also, it looks like they have probably already made them all, so they wouldn't want to store them for a year for no reason. If they thought waves 2&3 would sell through just fine at retail right now, they wouldn't have delayed them. The Jinx will sell out, movie or no movie.

[MonkeyBoyZ]

You do realize that panic will only make it even harder to find product in the stores and raise eBay prices even higher. Just shut up about it and pretend we don't care.

I just heard from an unreliable source that not only is wave 1 the only wave we get but the recall is being performed by the Battleship cast members. They are going home to home and snatching the figures from the hands of children and replacing them with dark 3D glasses. I guess it was the only way they could get paid...

BBTS still has the pre-orders up but I think they will just move the dates along UNLESS they have the same connections that Santa does. Luckily, they don't charge for the pre-orders.

[CobraScream]

I just heard from an unreliable source that not only is wave 1 the only wave we get but the recall is being performed by the Battleship cast members. They are going home to home and snatching the figures from the hands of children and replacing them with dark 3D glasses. I guess it was the only way they could get paid...

BBTS still has the pre-orders up but I think they will just move the dates along UNLESS they have the same connections that Santa does. Luckily, they don't charge for the pre-orders.

BBTS gets stuff in that does not always show at normal retail. All of the Transformers Reveal The Shield Voyagers and Scout figures only showed up at BBTS online and Hasbro Toy shop early in the year and sold out in minutes and then later on in the year only were sold at Discount Stores like Ross , Marshalls , and TJ Maxx.

[Griffin73]

Maybe they can make this toy line better. We don't need a ton of repaints of marginal figures anyways.

Hey, Hasbro... Make some new castings!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Maybe that can make this toy line better. Don't need a ton of repaints of marginal figures anyways.

Hey, Hasbro... Make some new castings!

This pipe dream is not gonna happen. It will just be a re-relrase of all of the product they hold back..nothing more.

[Galaxus]

Well this sucks.

[Gyre-Viper]

Okay... is anyone else seeing the choppy segmented wavey shit in everyone's posts?

[CobraScream]

At least we get most of what was shown.

They better get me my Ninja Cruiser and Tread Ripper!

[Gyre-Viper]

Okay... is anyone else seeing the choppy segmented wavey shit in everyone's posts?


Okay that was weird. I don't see them now. Did anyone else see that?
Glitch in the Matrix etc?

[The Commander]

Okay that was weird. I don't see them now. Did anyone else see that?
Glitch in the Matrix etc?

thought u were talkin about your sig

[VideoViper]

Okay... is anyone else seeing the choppy segmented wavey shit in everyone's posts?

Driver issue with your computer/browser. Should go away.

[Lantern_Lad]

Okay that was weird. I don't see them now. Did anyone else see that?
Glitch in the Matrix etc?

There is no spoon...

I didn't see any weird wavy shit.

[TheLongestDay]

THATS IT IM DONE WITH YOU GI JOE!!!!

........Im sorry baby I didnt mean that...why dont you come upstairs and I'll give you the kissy wissy smoochie woochy...you know I'll make it all better....

[Laser Viper]

What vehilces are part of wave 2 and wave 3? Still wanting Cobra Fang boat and the ninja cruiser for my collection.

[CrimsonGuard101]

What vehilces are part of wave 2 and wave 3? Still wanting Cobra Fang boat and the ninja cruiser for my collection.

Can kiss ninja cruiser good bye, it was wave 2

Fangboat is wave 1 better get out there and find one

[Griff]

Okay... is anyone else seeing the choppy segmented wavey shit in everyone's posts?

Is someone having a cartoon flashback sequence?

[Stuart_Selkirk]

And that there says it all- Retaliation is all about touching up, modding, upgrading, and tweaking.
Is there any Retaliation figure that doesn't require some kind of "fix"?
How much "tweaking" did 30th Anniversary figures require?

And with the prices figures are going for at retail, that's why I'm not too concerned about these guys getting bumped back.
A $9- $11 figure shouldn't require any touching up.

I don't remember ever having bought a figure which I left unmodded.
To me they are all custom material.
Those which I have left untouched so far are still subject to modification.

[bluesparrow]

This could be pretty good as long as they don't rerelease wave 1. All the good figures from wave 1 except maybe the Storm Shadow are in the cases for the later waves.

[Typhis]

The one thing I ordered from Kokomo Toys I better get my money back and not store credit,I only ordered from them cause everywhere else it was sold out.

[bloth]

Okay that was weird. I don't see them now. Did anyone else see that?
Glitch in the Matrix etc?

Ya looks like this
··._..·.___..__.—.··..__._._.

Pretty neat

[Deftones1982]

OK, bummer. But it makes sence.

[Lantern_Lad]

THATS IT IM DONE WITH YOU GI JOE!!!!

........Im sorry baby I didnt mean that...why dont you come upstairs and I'll give you the kissy wissy smoochie woochy...you know I'll make it all better....

OH NO! Not you too!!!

[Nightrain]

Can we finally admit GI Joe is dead?

[Sciencefriction]

Huh, oh well. Moving on.

[CrimsonGuard101]

OK, bummer. But it makes sence.

How does it make sense for a toy company to spend all of this money to promote and make thier product (G.I. JOE Toys, Action Figures, Online Games, & Videos | G.I. JOE Online (http://www.gijoe.com) still dosent even inform its customers that the product is delayed/cancelled because of the movie delay) just to let it sit for 9 months in a wharehouse? You know what thats going to cost to store all of the product and or ship it back if they have it? It makes no sense what so ever to do this. They just need to release it and make money/keep retail happy, so they dont skimp in the next line that comes after the movie for "cost saving" features...this spells certain doom for the next toy line...Lanard is going be excited it has equal competition for once in regards toy product offerings...

[neapolitan joe]

Epic fail...

[nighthawk]

I hope when March comes around, they just start with Wave2 case assortments right off the bat and skip Wave 1 as there'll be some carryovers anyways

[sithlordsmart]

Goodbye crimson guard and night viper......... At least we got the P.O.C Jungle Viper

[monstermonkey]

I might be one of the few who's ok with this news. There was nothing in the Retaliation line that screamed "YOU NEED ME NOW!!" so Hasbro's saving me some money, anyway. I do hope to get some of those Wave 1 Red Ninjas, that wacky Zartan and the 2 3 packs, though. The only other stuff I wanted was Bruce Colton, yellow Jinx, Blind Master, the black/dark blue ninja guy, a few Night Vipers and that Ninja Cruiser 4x4 thing.

[Jinx723]

Darth Vader NOOOO!!! (without music) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHAnW21MkpY)

Okay, now that I got that out of my system.
Pushing the toys to when the movie comes out makes sense.
As much as I would like to see another 30th Wave pop up during the Holiday season, we all know damn well it's not gonna happen. I just hope Hasbro is smart enough (:D ha ha) to start with Wave 2 when March comes around.

[Crimson Rage]

Oh the humanity!
Guess I'll have to do something grown-up with my money now.

[Griff]

Oh the humanity!
Guess I'll have to do something grown-up with my money now.

beer and titty bars? :D

[CrimsonGuard101]

Oh the humanity!
Guess I'll have to do something grown-up with my money now.

Invest it on some company that will lose it all for you? Gambeling? Drugs and alcohol? Cigarrettes? Hookers? Super Fat laced foods and greasey by products? Seriously spending it on Joe figures is much healthier in the long run lol...

[Red Sox]

I expected this would happen. What a fiasco! Hopefully retailers will still be willing to stick with Joe when they decide to bring it back. OK now time for the club to get the FSS up and running!!

[CrimsonGuard101]

I expected this would happen. What a fiasco! Hopefully retailers will still be willing to stick with Joe when they decide to bring it back. OK now time for the club to get the FSS up and running!!

The club FSS has been delayed until Marh 2014 to ensure the GI JOE movie can fully get back on its feet and so that the figures can be redone in 2d with less articualtion.

[jmlawn]

Wow, and here I thought Hasbro had a new incredible marketing model. Start releasing the toy line almost a year before the movie, so that the entire toy line would be out just as the movie was released to make sure the entire line would sell strong.
But no, it was just a mistake on their part.
I really thought they were on to something!

[Jmacq1]

Don't count on BBTS cancelling those Wave 3 orders. They'll just fulfill them in March instead of August.

[blackman2005]

And....

they have no back-up plan whatsoever to hold fans over for nine months?

I would respectfully consider re-releasing hard-to-find and yet to be released figures/vehicles on an alternate cardback for this hiatus. The items are pretty easy to fill in:

Wave 1:
Lowlight
Renegades Storm Shadow
Slice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Dice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Kwinn

Wave 2:
Zarana - if possible, repaint
Flint - PoC style kit-bash with Resolute headsculpt
Beachhead - Repaint of 3-pack Ninja Duel version with 25th webgear and PoC weapons - no new tooling
Rock Viper - Re-use base figure with smarter choice of accessories and web gear from existing library, no new tooling.
Snake Eyes - Re-use the head-sculpt under the Steel Brigade delta vehicle driver with existing parts from prior snakes and Retaliation
Hit & Run - more accurate darker color scheme to classic card art, more accessories, change headsculpt to PoC Dusty, no new tooling necessary....

Data -Viper? Why Not? There's no reason to not do it. If the DG figures are being bought in high demand fashion, why not release
at lease two lines that do not need new tooling at all as a filler between now and March?

Vehicles: Ashiko Cycle & HISS SCOUT!!!!!

[geo]

Wait, so what about all of our pre-orders for bigbadtoystore.com of Wave 2 due to come out in June and Wave 3 in August? Are those being pulled?

[sudelaya]

So should I epexct a full refund on my 5 wave 2 red ninjas I pr-ordered/charged for from Kokomo then back on april 30th? I better get my money back(no store credit as they have nothign I want at this point) or it will be the last time i order from them...I have received no communication form them about any cancellations...

We sent an email to everyone before this was posted. This email had instructions and information regarding preorders. If you did not get it please email us kokomotoys@comcast.net

[CrimsonGuard101]

We sent an email to everyone before this was posted. This email had instructions and information regarding preorders. If you did not get it please email us kokomotoys@comcast.net

Yes, someone else posted the email that was sent out and the person to email, which I have done earlier. Awating a reply, Thanks,

[Typhis]

Wait, so what about all of our pre-orders for bigbadtoystore.com of Wave 2 due to come out in June and Wave 3 in August? Are those being pulled?

I guess we wait till June and hope we get wave 2!!! I am

[Tazzzman]

That sure is sad news, I guess have to wait for joe colton figure..

[jmlawn]

It's funny how they start to allow pre-orders on these just days before announcing this kind of thing.

[MonkeyBrains]

I just noticed that BBTS changed the release date on their website and for any already made pre-orders (certainly mine anyway) for Wave 2 3.75 figures to March 2013. They haven't touched the Wave 2 vehicles or Wave 3 figures, but I assume it's safe to say it's only a matter of time until they get flipped to March 2013 from August and an e-mail is sent out from BBTS.

Seems like a solid confirmation to me.

Which is good. Wave 3 has ALL of the wave 2 figures as well, so 10 new figures and 2 junk figures is a pretty good ratio and I'd rather just order the wave 3 case and sell the 2 duplicates.

[ChaplainAsst]

And....

they have no back-up plan whatsoever to hold fans over for nine months?

I would respectfully consider re-releasing hard-to-find and yet to be released figures/vehicles on an alternate cardback for this hiatus. The items are pretty easy to fill in:

Wave 1:
Lowlight
Renegades Storm Shadow
Slice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Dice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Kwinn

Wave 2:
Zarana - if possible, repaint
Flint - PoC style kit-bash with Resolute headsculpt
Beachhead - Repaint of 3-pack Ninja Duel version with 25th webgear and PoC weapons - no new tooling
Rock Viper - Re-use base figure with smarter choice of accessories and web gear from existing library, no new tooling.
Snake Eyes - Re-use the head-sculpt under the Steel Brigade delta vehicle driver with existing parts from prior snakes and Retaliation
Hit & Run - more accurate darker color scheme to classic card art, more accessories, change headsculpt to PoC Dusty, no new tooling necessary....

Data -Viper? Why Not? There's no reason to not do it. If the DG figures are being bought in high demand fashion, why not release
at lease two lines that do not need new tooling at all as a filler between now and March?

Vehicles: Ashiko Cycle & HISS SCOUT!!!!!

The can't release Dice because of the FSS - or at least, there is an understanding that they won't. Of course, after the year the Club has had, nothing is impossible. I don't see a Zarana only because they would be limited in what kind of repaint. On the other hand, could easily see another Dreadnok female. The rest seem reasonable.

[sonoftimmy]

It's Joe's 30th anniversary and what did Hasbro do for it? They released a great 30th line that was hard to get and was cut short for a GI Joe movie and a “great” line to with this “great” movie. Then Hasbro…..

Cancelled the movie and the toy line.

So Hasbro gave us half of a line and a cancelled line and movie. HAPPY 30TH EVERYONE!!!!!! Hasbro Style!

[CrimsonGuard101]

It's Joe's 30th anniversary and what did Hasbro do for it? They released a great 30th line that was hard to get and was cut short for a GI Joe movie and a “great” line to with this “great” movie. Then Hasbro…..

Cancelled the movie and the toy line.

So Hasbro gave us half of a line and a cancelled line and movie. HAPPY 30TH EVERYONE!!!!!! Hasbro Style!

The best news will be when they announce in February that a mysterious film eating bacteria has irreversably destoyed the movie's film and the show will no longer be released...this will have more drama then a shakespeare's 14 act play!

[Python_Puckman]

...Vehicles: Ashiko Cycle & HISS SCOUT!!!!!

^ THIS! Dammit THIS! ^

[volleydan]

The best news will be when they announce in February that a mysterious film eating bacteria has irreversably destoyed the movie's film and the show will no longer be released...

Nano-mites?

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

And....

they have no back-up plan whatsoever to hold fans over for nine months?

I would respectfully consider re-releasing hard-to-find and yet to be released figures/vehicles on an alternate cardback for this hiatus. The items are pretty easy to fill in:

Wave 1:
Lowlight
Renegades Storm Shadow
Slice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Dice - parts already exist, no new tooling necessary
Kwinn

Wave 2:
Zarana - if possible, repaint
Flint - PoC style kit-bash with Resolute headsculpt
Beachhead - Repaint of 3-pack Ninja Duel version with 25th webgear and PoC weapons - no new tooling
Rock Viper - Re-use base figure with smarter choice of accessories and web gear from existing library, no new tooling.
Snake Eyes - Re-use the head-sculpt under the Steel Brigade delta vehicle driver with existing parts from prior snakes and Retaliation
Hit & Run - more accurate darker color scheme to classic card art, more accessories, change headsculpt to PoC Dusty, no new tooling necessary....

Data -Viper? Why Not? There's no reason to not do it. If the DG figures are being bought in high demand fashion, why not release
at lease two lines that do not need new tooling at all as a filler between now and March?

Vehicles: Ashiko Cycle & HISS SCOUT!!!!!


Would be really awesome if they did do this, but it would piss off the club people and sdcc people off to such a degree, that Hasbro would then have those two fires to put out. I could personally give a rat's ass about the club, sdcc, or Hasbro for that matter, who ever offers the best looking product for the best price gets my money, and if you keep burning me over and over eventually I'll throw my hands up and move on,... I'm looking at you MOTUC subscription.

BTW just checked status of BBTS pre-orders, they have been moved to March of 2013.

[DecepticonSpike]

Does anyone know if there will be any changes to the package?

[azrael13]

Meh...No sweat offa my back. I'm Focusing on MOTUC and Transformers stuff anyways.

Same here - building up my MOTUC collection! No Joes make me sad, but for now, I think I'll put 'em aside until Hasbro actually brings me something worth it. Between crappy movie figures and the shenanigans they pulled on the movie release itself, I'm just not feeling it for Hasbro at the moment. They can go kiss my arse for now...

[spiderpumpkin]

During the hiatus they can continue to release dollar store figures.

[red4]

Good news, everyone!

[neapolitan joe]

http://comiccritics.com/comics/2012-05-27_cc_211.gif

[MeLikeJinx]

Meh. I can wait. Really wanted a Wave 2 SE though to add to my SE collection.

[TheRealDubya]

Does anyone know if there will be any changes to the package?

I'd highly doubt it.

[Fred Broca XIII]

...meh...

[Griff]

http://comiccritics.com/comics/2012-05-27_cc_211.gif

I KNEW IT! haha

[Adamantite]

http://comiccritics.com/comics/2012-05-27_cc_211.gif


LOL

Everyone should wear a tshirt with this to the con.

[dorksidetoys]

Does anyone know if there will be any changes to the package?

The cancellation email Hasbro sent out says no change to the packaging.

[CobraScream]

Man.

BBTS just changed my pre orders on everything until 2013.

I am totally pissed!

[spiderpumpkin]

The cancellation email Hasbro sent out says no change to the packaging.

That's because is already sitting in a warehouse ready to be distributed next year.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Man.

BBTS just changed my pre orders on everything until 2013.

I am totally pissed!

Ahh hell...well at least that means more money lef tover for MP-13 Masterpiece Soundwave..looks like no JOES for 9 months lol...be kind alike from September of last year...theres been nothing to buy anyway...

[Ash Talon]

Call me an optimist, but I think some wave 2 will sneak out to retail. At least to some direct market customers. Granted, their prices will skyrocket on the aftermarket.

[CobraScream]

Time to grab a Treadripper on ebay.

I only hope the Ninja Cruiser leaks out as well.

[cobracobra]

Ah too bad. I was looking forward to that wave 3!!! See you next year Hasbro. I ll be 30 hopefully engaged and have been moved to DC with my fiance by the time you can release 4 new figures.
Next to the movie not coming out this is the worst news ever.
Also it brings up this point. Will they be shipping more of wave 1 to the stores or what we saw is what we see till next year?
Tomorrow my Target.com order comes in that I am thankful for. I was not very fruitful in my weekend "bring the troops home" campaign.

[CobraScream]

Ah too bad. I was looking forward to that wave 3!!! See you next year Hasbro. I ll be 30 hopefully engaged and have been moved to DC with my fiance by the time you can release 4 new figures.
Next to the movie not coming out this is the worst news ever.
Also it brings up this point. Will they be shipping more of wave 1 to the stores or what we saw is what we saw?

What I read was no more Wave 1 is shipping to retailers.

[SonOfMindbender]

Well since retail loves to restock before April this is a clear win, right? We won't see product until May. If this movie tanks, you can go right to DG and get all waves.

[RolandofGilead]

Just checked my BBTS order and they finally changed it to "March 2013" release date without an email or notice of any kind.

Nice.








So if we're SOL where Retaliation is concerned, why couldn't Hasbro ramp up production of the cheap Dollar General figures and offer them everywhere?

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Not suprising, once the movie was cancelled, the toys were soon to follow.....whatever.

[rocker82]

I knew this was going to happen.

[DecepticonSpike]

The cancellation email Hasbro sent out says no change to the packaging.

Ah. ok. I was looking at my Zartan figure, and I was trying to figure out if there would have been a change, where Duke's picture would have gone, since there is now a focus on him.

[shockwave71]

Ah, no big surprises here.

[cobracobra]

Hmm I wonder if they will go on clearance in target? In like a week or something redonk like that. Remember how long the A-team figures lasted at Target? Like 3 weeks and the A-team was on the clearance shelves.

[blackman2005]

Dear Hasbro,

In the unlikely event that the three major toys retailers lose faith in your G.I. Joe product due to problems on your end with not being able to fulfill orders, poor sales of Rise of Cobra merchandise, marketing product for investing in and temporarily discontinuing it because of a film, not having a clear vision of what figures will sell along with core characters and poor decisions in making desirable vehicles that sell at MSRP, you may want to consider the alternative. A place so grand, never complains about the items they receive that never make it to retail, sells your items at a highly competitive price to retailers that refuse to clearance it out and prides themselves to great customer satisfaction. This place is:

http://lankosigns.com/Pic5.gif

Just send it here, make all of us happy and give Paramount the middle finger it deserves.......

[fireflyguy]

What I read was no more Wave 1 is shipping to retailers.

I wonder when this is gonna take effect, as my target got a new case of bravo vehicles today.

[Dawg99]

end of the line

[red4]

Dear Hasbro,

In the unlikely event that the three major toys retailers lose faith in your G.I. Joe product due to problems on your end with not being able to fulfill orders, poor sales of Rise of Cobra merchandise, marketing product for investing in and temporarily discontinuing it because of a film, not having a clear vision of what figures will sell along with core characters and poor decisions in making desirable vehicles that sell at MSRP, you may want to consider the alternative. A place so grand, never complains about the items they receive that never make it to retail, sells your items at a highly competitive price to retailers that refuse to clearance it out and prides themselves to great customer satisfaction. This place is:

http://lankosigns.com/Pic5.gif

Just send it here, make all of us happy and give Paramount the middle finger it deserves.......

Except you didn't actually send them that message.

[fireflyguy]

[QUOTE=RolandofGilead;3665271]Just checked my BBTS order and they finally changed it to "March 2013" release date without an email or notice . Nice/QUOTE]

Mine too. The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am. I was really looking forward to that ninja combat cruiser. It was gonna be one of my summer projects. I guess the only consolation is that these will (probably) see the light of day (eventually). At least my SW case should be shipping anytime. Hopefully.

[jim0680]

if movie is march then wouldnt toy release be the usual month before? anyway the target near me still has figures and with the toys r us ad this week buy one get on 50 percent target will prioce match,. so keep hunting

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

end of the line


No. No. Just probably the start of a new temporary line, called, "Like totes Joe to the max fo' sho". It will consist of African American Ripcord as it's leader, and every one of the joes under him will use a iphone or android and talk to each other in text speak, and they'll all be on twitter. Cobra the ultra bum will be all sorts of nar nar and completely cock block the whole joe party, by invading every cell phone provider and hacking facebook and therefore having everyone who uses facebook under their mind control. They will release 2 waves of figures before that is the ultimate demise of yet another unsuccessful attempt to reboot the line.

Wave1
Ripcord with datapad
Ripcord with PDA
Agent Mary Whitehouse (the newest Dial-Tone)
Samsonite who is good at smuggling suit cases past TSA
Duke
and of course Snake Eyes and Cobra Commander

Wave 2 is
Ripcord with Alpha Delta Epsilon suit
Duke with Omega device and launching arm cannon
Snake Eyes with Ninja Kata
Cobra Commander
And.... Wait for it,... Super Duper Awesome must have it chase figure Storm Shadow that everyone must want because everyone says so, and because he's just so gosh darn rad, and will go for totes a lot of money on The Bay!!!!

[jmlawn]

If this is how they handle the 30th anniversary, I'd hate to see how next year goes. Good job Hasbro!

[Tanksmasher]

So no Joe product till next year. Wow!

[CrimsonGuard101]

If this is how they handle the 30th anniversary, I'd hate to see how next year goes. Good job Hasbro!

Much less the 35 anniversay since the 3rd movie will be delayed until that time...just to f with the line...again....

[Big IV]

If this toy hiatus is anything like the Renegades hiatus then we will never see these toys.

[Night_Force_GI_EDDO]

I'm guessing these will be like Pursuit of cobra.... As in a chance to change the figures and packaging in the nine months. Maybe with the fan reaction to the limited articulation on the figures and complaints of the card art, Hasbro will see this as an opportunity to make the most of these figures by reworking them, thus making the ones out right now a rarity. Any one share this thought?

[galactron22]

Hopefully we'll see what was supposed to be released after the movie line. We'll find out their plans during the GI JOE convention and SDCC.

[Night_Force_GI_EDDO]

I bet at comic con and joe con all they show will be the Retaliation product that isn't already out, and that won't be out til February or march.

[DavAnthony]

Man they are such douche bags it's amazing.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I bet at comic con and joe con all they show will be the Retaliation product that isn't already out, and that won't be out til February or march.

ooh that would be the bleach pepper spray solution in the lemon juice filled exacto knife cuts they have left us with lol...

[DrKain]

Can they at least start producing some of the cancelled 30th figures for a Christmas release?

[youdoitimbusy]

So much for keeping product on the shelves.

[CrimsonGuard101]

no way man, that will flood the market with stuff that will prevent retail from re-ordering movie products next year...Hasbro is not going to have that now will they.

Can they at least start producing some of the cancelled 30th figures for a Christmas release?

[Nightrain]

Please tell me someone at a con will get in Hasbro's face about all this.

[Ash Talon]

There's no way they're going to switch gears and crank out new packaging. And a new SKU for stores to order stuff. It would barely get to stores by the end of the year which would then compete with the relaunched movie line in Jan. Stores just clearanced out non-movie stuff for the movie SKUs. There's no way they're going to change directions again.

I think they could mix up assortments, and ship some of the non-movie characters in movie packaging to fill the gap, but I highly doubt it.

I can't imagine Hasbro wanting to stop wave 2 from hitting, since it's already on the water. I would have let those orders go through. They would sell out by the time of the relaunch. Wave 2 is probably either at distribution centers in the states. I can't see retailers just wanting to sit on them for 9 months or spend the energy shipping them back.

I wonder if Hasbro would be inclined to switch the HISS to black for the relauch. It would be a cool little bonus for people that bought it now. They get a blue one that'll be phased out. And a black HISS is more iconic and better matches the film.

[jmlawn]

http://www.facebook.com/mobileprotection#!/photo.php?fbid=3762278977300&set=a.1500940165243.2066129.1286368043&type=1&theater

[Galaxus]

The question is does hasbro feel GIJOE is a big enough seller to have them put together a filler line in between now and next march?

[Kipla]

The question is does hasbro feel GIJOE is a big enough seller to have them put together a filler line in between now and next march?

I'm going to say no. Hasbro is probably already deep in the hole money wise concerning Joe and this whole Retaliation fiasco. No way they're going to sink any more money into a filler line.

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

I suspect at least for the wave 2 stuff there is probably enough product that has already been made that you will see it somewhere; if not in major stores, maybe stores like Ross, Marshall's, and Big Lots.

If nothing else, I'm sure we'll see a bunch of this stuff from Chinese Ebayers for a while; maybe to the point of some figures becoming as common as the Elite Ice Vipers were.

[Dragasses]

The question is does hasbro feel GIJOE is a big enough seller to have them put together a filler line in between now and next march?
I bet hasbro is more worried about the metric ton of battleship stuff sitting on the shelves at every store in the know universe right this moment. you think avengers stuff with offset all of this black hole? I have no idea. that must have been a pretty big high to a pretty far low, they have to be freaking the fugg out like all of the collectors. like facebook share holders. bummer.

[PFunk]

I'm a PC flight and racing sim geek, so I'm used to this.

Simulator fans are a niche market in video gaming, realistic combat and racing sims on the PC are an even tinier niche. So, we see very few titles.

Action figure collectors are a niche market in toy and hobby markets and military figure collectors are an even smaller niche. It gets worse when the movie tie-in gets delayed a month away from opening night.

My opinion? Get ready for a 9-month drought.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I suspect at least for the wave 2 stuff there is probably enough product that has already been made that you will see it somewhere; if not in major stores, maybe stores like Ross, Marshall's, and Big Lots.

If nothing else, I'm sure we'll see a bunch of this stuff from Chinese Ebayers for a while; maybe to the point of some figures becoming as common as the Elite Ice Vipers were.

You can scratch this off the list...there is no way hasbro is going to allow product they are requesting be held to end up at those retailers, this isnt some petty street date now. Much less let it reach current retail. Hence why BBTS and Kokomo have canclled the wav 2+ orders or postponed them to 2013...

[Galaxus]

They still could have made money off this line releasing wave 2 and 3 at least.

[sn8ke3y3s]

What I find most funny about the Retaliation figures is that the packaging reminds me allot of the Nerf stuff. It really dosen't say G.I.Joe to me and is almost very easy to walk right by it on an end-cap like I did today at Toy's "R" Us!

[FirstOne]

Anyone who thinks Hasbro will put some more 30th or some kind of filler line between now and the movie, are on drugs. It takes many months to plan and produce a toy line. By the time they had one all planned out and produced, it would be to close to the movie to release it. Get ready for no Joe's in stores for 9 months people.

[red4]

Anyone who thinks Hasbro will put some more 30th or some kind of filler line between now and the movie, are on drugs. It takes many months to plan and produce a toy line. By the time they had one all planned out and produced, it would be to close to the movie to release it. Get ready for no Joe's in stores for 9 months people.

Nuh-uh! Making toys is easy peasy! You're a dumb poopoo head!

[Sciencefriction]

At the end of the day all this really says to me is no one has faith in G.I. Joe, and that they don't care about G.I. Joe as an intellectual property or what it means to people. Were the people watching the screen test fans? I highly doubt it. For all we know it could have been a great movie that fans would have loved, maybe not. We wanted Duke dead, they listened. Honestly, it seemed like a way to correct that mistake of letting him live back in the 80s. Let the property move forward, etc. No, what Paramount and Hasbro care about is money, and that's it. There is nothing else that matters. They don't care about how good the movie is, about the people who buy the toys, about what anyone thinks, they just want the movie to make money. They don't care how it makes money, just that it makes money. That's what the problem is here. Look at Marvel, that's a company who cares and wants to make a good product, not just money, and it's paid off.

[Raysohood]

Can they at least start producing some of the cancelled 30th figures for a Christmas release?

One can only hope

[CrimsonGuard101]

At the end of the day all this really says to me is no one has faith in G.I. Joe, and that they don't care about G.I. Joe as an intellectual property or what it means to people. Were the people watching the screen test fans? I highly doubt it. For all we know it could have been a great movie that fans would have loved, maybe not. We wanted Duke dead, they listened. Honestly, it seemed like a way to correct that mistake of letting him live back in the 80s. Let the property move forward, etc. No, what Paramount and Hasbro care about is money, and that's it. There is nothing else that matters. They don't care about how good the movie is, about the people who buy the toys, about what anyone thinks, they just want the movie to make money. They don't care how it makes money, just that it makes money. That's what the problem is here. Look at Marvel, that's a company who cares and wants to make a good product, not just money, and it's paid off.

I agree...i am just not a huge Marvel fan or Transfomers fan...it just not as interesting as GI JOE is and was..it sucks that I have to be a fan of the collection that Hasbro likes the least :( they didnt act this way when Joe was thier bright child...back before Kenner had to flatulate and implode themselves and drop Star Wars...panzies...

[TheRealDubya]

Call me an optimist, but I think some wave 2 will sneak out to retail. At least to some direct market customers. Granted, their prices will skyrocket on the aftermarket.

You're an optimist.

And that Firefly with the transluscent arms everyone was bagging on a few weeks ago? The 100 or so of that slip out early in the next few months will be $85 a pop on Ebay. Watch.

[daremo]

Isn't it more so delayed than canceled? I'm pretty sure we'll see those waves at a later date. :D

[ShadowNinja]

We will see some revision cases of 30 stuff i bet between now or they pull out the cases that were about to be sold to ross and put them back out in stores.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Isn't it more so delayed than canceled? I'm pretty sure we'll see those waves at a later date. :D

Anything post December 21st 2012 is up in the air at this time. Please check back after the Mayan Pokeelypse and hopefully Capin Walkah will flies us all to tommorow-morrow land!...

[ultramax]

all them goodies from wave 2-5 gonna be at ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

remember the ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS exclusive sand serpent plane, twin turrent, ashiko cycle?? same thang w these 'canceled' retaliation toys... they were made , packaged, already sitting in a warehouse going straight to ............



wait for it


......


ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[ultramax]

them toys gonna be half off at

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

screw the 9.99 tarjay prices for wave 1

imma get mines at

ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[ShadowNinja]

yeah the thing is those were canceled. These retaliation figures are delayed. Why would they just throw out all the movie figures for a movie that is still being released?

[CrimsonGuard101]

yeah the thing is those were canceled. These retaliation figures are delayed. Why would they just throw out all the movie figures for a movie that is still being released?

Right, these will not be going to Ross till at least 2015...anyone thinking they will is beyond delusional and needs to go back to bed...

[Sciencefriction]

I agree...i am just not a huge Marvel fan or Transfomers fan...it just not as interesting as GI JOE is and was..it sucks that I have to be a fan of the collection that Hasbro likes the least :( they didnt act this way when Joe was thier bright child...back before Kenner had to flatulate and implode themselves and drop Star Wars...panzies...

As much as I love Marvel, and it's the biggest of my passions, G.I. Joe is something that just grabs you and never lets go. I was into TF more than G.I. Joe for years and years as a kid, and honestly, I could care less at this point. No matter what they do to the Joes though, I still love the property. At this point I can't see them ever fixing it. It seemed like the 25th Anniversary was a step in the right direction, they fumbled a bit with ROC, but it brought about a lot of cool stuff. Now, who knows, they don't care, just drop it and move on. Let it rest, stop #($(ing with us already!

Also, I've already waited a long time for these new Joes, I actually LOVE waves 2 and 3, warts and all. It's so hard to accept that they are mere WEEKS away and now I have to wait another @#_@ing YEAR.

[Nightrain]

Why would they just throw out all the movie figures for a movie that is still being released?

If it is still being released...

[Gothiczartan]

if they are saving the rest of the wave figures it would be nice if they make some extra figures most in movie accurate like joe colton in suit, jinx in red as seen in the trailer, lady jaye in movie accurate camo gear, red ninjas movie accurate, jinx ninja gear movie accurate. movie accurate cobra troopers.

[Sciencefriction]

They should have just stuck to the schedule a released the figures they have up until the end of Q4. Then came back in Q2 with new movie accurate figures. How much harder is it to sell these figures than POC/30th Joes honestly? Probably not any harder.

[red4]

If it is still being released...

I feel that.

[Fred Broca XIII]

Can they at least start producing some of the cancelled 30th figures for a Christmas release?

...or at least throw us some rewind waves that have some of the harder to find figures from 25th (they already did something like this with the 25th), and some POC (minus Arctic Destro & Desert Duke)...it seems like walmart, target and toys r us practically refuse to restock any GI Joes even when new waves are released...I'm sure everyone's heard me rant about not seeing anything from POC wave 4 up to the first Renegades wave, then zilch after that for months...

[rdodger]

Maybe the Dollar General Joes will be all we get for a while.

[poddie]

I'm absolutely floored at the batsh*t crazy theories some of you guys have.

The movie was delayed so the toy line was DELAYED. Why is that so hard to understand?

There is a good reason for this... retailers will not order lots of product based on a movie that is not coming out until next March. So of course it makes sense for Hasbro to hold the product and release it when they can piggyback on all the movie's promotion.

No one has cancelled the movie.

No one has cancelled the movie toy line.

They will not send the toys directly to Ross.

In what world would any of that make any sense business-wise? While I hate the delays, they all make sense from a business (and yes, money making, which is what businesses are designed to do) point of view.

People need to grow up and think logically.

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

I'm absolutely floored at the batsh*t crazy theories some of you guys have.

The movie was delayed so the toy line was DELAYED. Why is that so hard to understand?

There is a good reason for this... retailers will not order lots of product based on a movie that is not coming out until next March. So of course it makes sense for Hasbro to hold the product and release it when they can piggyback on all the movie's promotion.

No one has cancelled the movie.

No one has cancelled the movie toy line.

They will not send the toys directly to Ross.

In what world would any of that make any sense business-wise? While I hate the delays, they all make sense from a business (and yes, money making, which is what businesses are designed to do) point of view.

People need to grow up and think logically.

You should know your common sense and logic have no place here.

[DavAnthony]

It would be nice even most of us could even find them. Right now we have dollar store figures going for $6 at the store and over $30 online.
Irony is rampant here.

[DecepticonSpike]

If it is still being released...

Knowing our luck, at the very last minute, it'll become a direct to DVD release.

[KingStalin]

I'm absolutely floored at the batsh*t crazy theories some of you guys have.

The movie was delayed so the toy line was DELAYED. Why is that so hard to understand?

There is a good reason for this... retailers will not order lots of product based on a movie that is not coming out until next March. So of course it makes sense for Hasbro to hold the product and release it when they can piggyback on all the movie's promotion.

No one has cancelled the movie.

No one has cancelled the movie toy line.

They will not send the toys directly to Ross.

In what world would any of that make any sense business-wise? While I hate the delays, they all make sense from a business (and yes, money making, which is what businesses are designed to do) point of view.

People need to grow up and think logically.

But didn't you hear because the movie got delayed, they are in panic mode and have announced the following line changes.

• All races will change. White Joes will become Chinese, African American Joes will become Arab and all other minorities will be Mexican.

• Accessories will now be sold separately and be priced 1.25 each. Available only through the collectors club and be limited to 250 run for each piece.

• Only neon colors will be allowed for all paint applications.

• GI Joes will now only be sold in Dollar Generals east of the Mississippi.

[Lody]

I'm absolutely floored at the batsh*t crazy theories some of you guys have.

The movie was delayed so the toy line was DELAYED. Why is that so hard to understand?

There is a good reason for this... retailers will not order lots of product based on a movie that is not coming out until next March. So of course it makes sense for Hasbro to hold the product and release it when they can piggyback on all the movie's promotion.

No one has cancelled the movie.

No one has cancelled the movie toy line.

They will not send the toys directly to Ross.

In what world would any of that make any sense business-wise? While I hate the delays, they all make sense from a business (and yes, money making, which is what businesses are designed to do) point of view.

People need to grow up and think logically.

Due to your pretty low post count, you are going to get a pass on this one.

Anyone that thinks that Hasbro will release these figures come March has rocks in their head.

If you think this, then it shows that you have not been paying attention to what hasbro has done to jack with GI Joe in the last 5 years alone.

[Lody]

How crazy is it that Hasbro will be previewing the same GI Joe toys at the NY Toy Fair in 2013 that were viewed at the previous Toy Fair in 2012.

[red4]

But didn't you hear because the movie got delayed, they are in panic mode and have announced the following line changes.

• All races will change. White Joes will become Chinese, African American Joes will become Arab and all other minorities will be Mexican.

• Accessories will now be sold separately and be priced 1.25 each. Available only through the collectors club and be limited to 250 run for each piece.

• Only neon colors will be allowed for all paint applications.

• GI Joes will now only be sold in Dollar Generals east of the Mississippi.

That's pretty damn funny, especially the part about Dollar Generals east of the Mississippi river. It's so offputtingly specific and unfair!

[Veedox]

They probably won't allow photos too.


How crazy is it that Hasbro will be previewing the same GI Joe toys at the NY Toy Fair in 2013 that were viewed at the previous Toy Fair in 2012.

[Gyre-Viper]

How crazy is it that Hasbro will be previewing the same GI Joe toys at the NY Toy Fair in 2013 that were viewed at the previous Toy Fair in 2012.


About as crazy as cancelling a ton of ROC figures towards the end of that line to distance themselves from the rushed film only to have half of them end up on POC cards only to have POC postponed for 8 months only to turn into the 30th and Renegades (based on a cartoon canceled to make room for the film) which were then put on hiatus for the film being moved forward only to have the film then moved back putting the line on some fucked up partial hiatus that then puts the speculated return of the 30th on hiatus not to mention what will happen if the Retaliation film and or toys and or both just completely tank regardless, in the end, in March?

[ChaplainAsst]

Due to your pretty low post count, you are going to get a pass on this one.

Anyone that thinks that Hasbro will release these figures come March has rocks in their head.

If you think this, then it shows that you have not been paying attention to what hasbro has done to jack with GI Joe in the last 5 years alone.

Ummm... actually I think most folks think they will re-release wave 1 in some form in March. These are some of the core movie characters plus some popular army builders. Many of these same figures are in wave 2 so they might move forward in that way, but Roadblock, CC, Duke, SS, SE will all be on the pegs come March because these will be the characters kids will want to buy once they see them on the movie screen.

What looks like might change is additional Duke figures if the character's screen time is indeed increased. Don't expect them to cancel waves, recall toys, and mess up store plans just to change their minds in a couple of weeks.

[ChaplainAsst]

How crazy is it that Hasbro will be previewing the same GI Joe toys at the NY Toy Fair in 2013 that were viewed at the previous Toy Fair in 2012.

I think there is quite a bit we still haven't seen and plenty of time to develop new figures and vehicles for after the movie.

[Roshan]

I think there is quite a bit we still haven't seen and plenty of time to develop new figures and vehicles for after the movie.

Yes, but will the retailers order more product for 2013 given the 2012 turnout. Also, would Hasbro dump it's current figures into discount chains to develop different figures.

All of this is virgin territory. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

[bandonov]

About as crazy as cancelling a ton of ROC figures towards the end of that line to distance themselves from the rushed film only to have half of them end up on POC cards only to have POC postponed for 8 months only to turn into the 30th and Renegades (based on a cartoon canceled to make room for the film) which were then put on hiatus for the film being moved forward only to have the film then moved back putting the line on some fucked up partial hiatus that then puts the speculated return of the 30th on hiatus not to mention what will happen if the Retaliation film and or toys and or both just completely tank regardless, in the end, in March?


So you are saying the End of the Line?

[Gyre-Viper]

So you are saying the End of the Line?


I'm saying this shit is crazy.

[bandonov]

I'm saying this shit is crazy.

That it is...

[Nightrain]

I will laugh so hard when Retaliation toys end up being a limited internet release because retailers refuse to play these games.

[Sciencefriction]

I will laugh so hard when Retaliation toys end up being a limited internet release because retailers refuse to play these games.

I wish they'd do that right now. Two weeks away from getting Flint & Firefly and swoop, taken away from me for 9 months. It's a joke.

[TheRealDubya]

I wish they'd do that right now. Two weeks away from getting Flint & Firefly and swoop, taken away from me for 9 months. It's a joke.

It's not a very funny joke.

[CrimsonGuard101]

It's not a very funny joke.

It is to the guy who innitiated the delay...hes in some 80 story building in LA laughing his ass off at us...right now...

[Sciencefriction]

The worst part is knowing the toys are just sitting there in distribution centers and leaking from China. I hate being teased and then told no.

[DecepticonSpike]

The worst part is knowing the toys are just sitting there in distribution centers and leaking from China. I hate being teased and then told no.

Sounds like a lot of dates I've had.

[TheRealDubya]

The worst part is knowing the toys are just sitting there in distribution centers and leaking from China. I hate being teased and then told no.

Sounds like a lot of dates I've had.

Well, that's what the fucking internet is for.

Hey, where's that Virtual Collection guy? Perfect time for that shit.

[red4]

Somebody needs to scalp...... some Hasbro executives.

[TheRealDubya]

Shit, I'm still mad they ditched Scarlett for the sequel. Maybe they can go ahead and remedy that fuck up while they're adding Magic Mike back in and converting his abs to 3-D, 4 'da laydeez.

That Scarlett chick was milky and hot. Boosh.

[Darth_Risar]

Postponed or cancelled?

[TheRealDubya]

Postponed or cancelled?

Postponed. Not cancelled.

[Cobra Terrorist]

About as crazy as cancelling a ton of ROC figures towards the end of that line to distance themselves from the rushed film only to have half of them end up on POC cards only to have POC postponed for 8 months only to turn into the 30th and Renegades (based on a cartoon canceled to make room for the film) which were then put on hiatus for the film being moved forward only to have the film then moved back putting the line on some fucked up partial hiatus that then puts the speculated return of the 30th on hiatus not to mention what will happen if the Retaliation film and or toys and or both just completely tank regardless, in the end, in March?

Sounds like a smooth operation to me!


But, seriously - when you put it all together like that^^^, it absolutely does make you scratch your head and think "What the fuck are they DOING?!".

[blayze5150]

I have really shown my butt to Hasbro over this. Their replies are pretty much "forwarding you to the never heard from again department." Here is my most recent reply to their endless spewing of blahblahblah garbage:

No, I have more to say. I have put a ton of money on Hasbro's bottom line over the years. I am an adult with a paying job who buys your product. Hasbro, as a company, has gone out of its way to disrespect collectors like me so it can be the flavor of the month for whatever six to eight year old begs their parent for a toy. If the movie is a success, that child will buy a few toys, treat them badly, put them in a yardsale or throw them away, then move on to Ninjago or whatever the trend happens to be at that time. I have been a loyal Hasbro customer all of my life. All I get is mentioned to a "cosumer affairs" department filed between a focus group in an Indiana mall and a survey on a cereal box? Not good enough.
I know I am a fool to expect anything more, but I really thought this company was better than that. So much for giving back to loyal customers.... little Billy might need a new toy to destroy!

Overreation? Probably. I don't care. They're being jerks.

[TheRealDubya]

This is rad:

http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/GI-Joe-The-rock-channing-storyboard.jpg

[JediJones]

I think now that these toys won't go to clearance this year. I think by the end of summer if not sooner, Hasbro is going to have the stores send everything still on the shelf back to them and/or have their reps collect it up from the stores.

[red4]

I think now that these toys won't go to clearance this year. I think by the end of summer if not sooner, Hasbro is going to have the stores send everything still on the shelf back to them and/or have their reps collect it up from the stores.

Not if I get there first.

[fireflyguy]

This is rad:

http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/GI-Joe-The-rock-channing-storyboard.jpg

That's awesome!

But it's not in 3d, so send it back and show it to us again in 9 months when it's done right.

[XAMOT]

Yeah, I figured as much.

[Raw Dog]

Yo, that cartoon strip is the bomb diggity. I love it!

[Shin Densetsu]

This is rad:

http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/GI-Joe-The-rock-channing-storyboard.jpg

Most awesome thing I've seen all day. Just need that paramount douchebag pic but with a guy behind a desk calling the shots.

[Deftones1982]

Great comic.

Bit of off topic question and didn't want to start a new topic specially for it: What happened to the Q&A?

[Jack T Chance]

It's Official GIJOE Retaliation Wave 2 And 3 Cancelled

We regret that Hasbro has sent an e-mail this morning stating that Wave 2 & Wave 3 have in fact been cancelled until March 2013. The only Retaliation items we will see this year is the little Wave 1 product that are currently in stores now.

Thanks to Kokomo Toys & Collectibles (http://www.kokomotoys.com/) for the heads up.Time to argue semantics...

"Cancelled" would mean that they are NEVER coming out, period. The word you're looking for is "POSTPONED"... or maybe "DELAYED". ;-)

Mods, can we please get a THREAD TITLE CHANGE so as to avoid possible confusion? Thanks. :-)

[red4]

Time to argue semantics...

"Cancelled" would mean that they are NEVER coming out, period. The word you're looking for is "POSTPONED"... or maybe "DELAYED". ;-)

Mods, can we please get a THREAD TITLE CHANGE so as to avoid possible confusion? Thanks. :-)

NO! We want to be riled up! We need to get mad and take a stand!

[Nightrain]

"Cancelled" would mean that they are NEVER coming out, period.

Which they aren't.

[ROC Solid Snake]

^^^until March 2013

[Raw Dog]

Which they aren't.

Wait, are you saying that wave 2 and 3 are never coming out? When did that happen? I had heard that they were just being postponed until next year for when the movie comes out.

[Nightrain]

^^^until March 2013

Uh huh. And Kwinn is totally coming out too! Promise!

[Snow Wolf]

They are merely postponed until the movie is out March 2013.


Wait, are you saying that wave 2 and 3 are never coming out? When did that happen? I had heard that they were just being postponed until next year for when the movie comes out.

[Raw Dog]

They are merely postponed until the movie is out March 2013.

Oh, okay cool. That's what I thought. I can't wait. But I am going to have too. 10 more months now.

[ROC Solid Snake]

Uh huh. And Kwinn is totally coming out too! Promise!

I apoloize if i've missed something. I saw the official "Kwinn is Cancelled" explanation from Hasbro quite awhile back. Could you please post a link to the information you have on the cancellation of the rest of the retaliation toys? Are they now cancelling the movie too?

[Snow Wolf]

Yup..shitty, but nothing we can do about it. I'll use to time to give the wallet a bit of a rest, and snag a few 25th vehicle sets and/or SDCC exclusives then.

Besides, I'm only buying a few figures here and there from the movie line as I got alot of what I wanted from wave 1. I'll grab wave 2 Firefly, Flint and RB, and Colton, Lady Jaye & Black Dragon ninja from wave 3, once they are out. I am undecided on the Ninja combat cruiser and ripper tank though.

(best version, IMO)Oh, okay cool. That's what I thought. I can't wait. But I am going to have too. 10 more months now.

[blackman2005]

I think now that these toys won't go to clearance this year. I think by the end of summer if not sooner, Hasbro is going to have the stores send everything still on the shelf back to them and/or have their reps collect it up from the stores.

Waves 2 & 3 will come out earlier than March 2013. They have to, simply because the Summer and Christmas season are major ordering intervals for big retailers like Target, TRU and Walmart. To sit on top of cases that have been ready for shipment for nine months is idiotic. If Wave 1 sales meets Hasbro's expectations then they will not just stop the brand for a hiatus or continually manufacture the same product for it to over run its course and become stagnant/non-profitable in stores.

Wave 2 is delayed but I'm willing bet money that we'll start seeing it by Christmas since its already been packed and sealed up in new cases slated to come out later this month. If Hasbro has absolutely nothing new to ship Joe wise for retailers for the fall they wouldn't capitalize the opportunity make thousands for a busy season which isn't like them. If it isn't Retaliation then it has to be something in its place for this announced hiatus in new Joe related product.

I'm anxoius to find out what Hasbro's backup plan is. It should be a no brainer to re-release HTF PoC and 30th Anniversary figures along with some kit-bashed figures to make new characters for two or three new waves to hold us over until March of next year. It could be on alternative non-character themed cardbacks at a lower MSRP of $7.99. Place Kwinn in here and thats a smart way of getting him out there for us to buy.

[ROC Solid Snake]

"Cancelled" would mean that they are NEVER coming out, period.

Which they aren't.

^^^until March 2013

Uh huh. And Kwinn is totally coming out too! Promise!

I apoloize if i've missed something. I saw the official "Kwinn is Cancelled" explanation from Hasbro quite awhile back. Could you please post a link to the information you have on the cancellation of the rest of the retaliation toys? Are they now cancelling the movie too?

Ask for proof and he logs off...still waiting.

[red4]

Ask for proof and he logs off...still waiting.

Philosophically speaking, they'll never hit shelves.

[crock master]

everything that never hit the shelves always pops up at discout stores 2 years later

[Nightrain]

Ask for proof and he logs off...still waiting.

You are a silly person.

[joedelta]

Hey, all im missing is Dark Spyro.......Wait wrong forum.

[ROC Solid Snake]

You are a silly person.

Shooting your mouth off like you are "THE Joe Authority" with nothing to back your baseless claims is silly. Go troll on the Hot Wheels fan forum.

[Nightrain]

Um...okay...?

[red4]

Shooting your mouth off like you are "THE Joe Authority" with nothing to back your baseless claims is silly. Go troll on the Hot Wheels fan forum.

I am the Joe authority though. If you don't like it, keep arguing with me, because I like conversation!

[ROC Solid Snake]

I am the Joe authority though. If you don't like it, keep arguing with me, because I like conversation!

:D Moderately annoying yes; "Joe Authority" no.

[red4]

Yeah, I don't really know much about GI Joe. Duke is the african american who wears a ninja mask, right?

[Nightrain]

Yeah, I don't really know much about GI Joe. Duke is the african american who wears a ninja mask, right?

Correct.

[crock master]

i used to think tiger force duke was an actual tiger turd.