Who was Retaliation Trooper supposed to be?

[Jay West]

So the Retaliation Trooper does not appear to be movie accurate. He also seems to have more in common with the POC/30th figures that the Retaliation figures. So...who or what was he originally supposed to be? His head sculpt is pretty specific for a troop builder.

Does anyone think he might have been a POC like update for a classic character? Maybe a POC Grunt?

I'd love for someone at Con to ask about his development.

[Colder Soldier]

The headsculpt is Sideshow Beachhead.

The regular helmet is the "Master Chief"- in the same vein as other borrowing POC favorites like "Aliens" Duke, and "Predator" Spirit, Shadow Tracker, Firefly, etc...

[sithlordsmart]

The headsculpt is Sideshow Beachhead.

The regular helmet is the "Master Chief"- in the same vein as other borrowing POC favorites like "Aliens" Duke, and "Predator" Spirit, Shadow Tracker, Firefly, etc...

Good call!!

[MeLikeJinx]

He has a cape... so maybe a Desert operative of some kind... a desert with blue sand. LOL.

[Colder Soldier]

Ret Trooper headsculpt + 3pk Beachhead body + Ren Tunnel Rat scarf + Steel Brigade vest = my new favorite figure.

The patch on his right shoulder is icing on the cake.

Pics when I get to work.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Just a generic MW3 figure...the mohawk speaks volumes to the audience it was grasping for...I prefer the halo head...the cape is for the AD&D fans its +2 to stealth and +1 fire resistance(tan) and the (blue) is +1 frost resistance and +3 HP

[DOCHOLIDAY56]

Bradley Maddrox(another board member) and I were discussing this while out on our Retaliation hunt this morning,

To us he's "just not generic enough" to be NOBODY..

we just got a few diffrent Steel Brigades for Green Shirts

So he needs a name....

DOC

[MeLikeJinx]

Ret Trooper headsculpt + 3pk Beachhead body + Ren Tunnel Rat scarf + Steel Brigade vest = my new favorite figure.

The patch on his right shoulder is icing on the cake.

Pics when I get to work.
I was thinking of doing the Ret. 3-pack Beachhead with Steel Brigade vest kitbash too, but I think you need the turtleneck collar to pull that look off. Never thought to use Ren. T-rat's scarf.

[Flint-wo2]

Ret Trooper headsculpt + 3pk Beachhead body + Ren Tunnel Rat scarf + Steel Brigade vest = my new favorite figure.

The patch on his right shoulder is icing on the cake.

Pics when I get to work.

Clever.

I might use him as a custom soap.

[CVdelgado]

his name is...













RANCID.

[agent888]

does anyone else think he looks like Robert Patrick? check out his IMDb photo.

[Dake]

does anyone else think he looks like Robert Patrick? check out his IMDb photo.

I was going to say exactly that. I wish he had a normal haircut because he'd be an easy custom t1000.

[DOCHOLIDAY56]

does anyone else think he looks like Robert Patrick? check out his IMDb photo.

WOW he does.....so is he a younger Col. Tom Ryan from TV's The Unit?

i'm happy with a GRUNT update personally

My buddy Brad says he maybe a new character to him named Mongoose.

Either way I LOVE this figure

DOC

[Riotheory]

To me, this figure is as cool as any figure that came out of the 30th. I picked up two, and with those knives, I've decided to call on Master Chef (MC) and the other Assistant Chef (AC). In my Joeverse they will be the love children of Roadblock and Rachel Ray.

R.

[Troynos]

He's meant to be a generic trooper.

The first couple waves of figures aren't movie accurate. The Cobra Trooper doesn't appear in the movie, neither does Duke/Flint in those looks or Roadblock.

Because of timing issues, having to get product on shelves, the first couple waves weren't going to be movie accurate.

[Energon Viper]

The headsculpt is Sideshow Beachhead.

The regular helmet is the "Master Chief"- in the same vein as other borrowing POC favorites like "Aliens" Duke, and "Predator" Spirit, Shadow Tracker, Firefly, etc...

I agree. That head is totally sideshow beachhead. Also, I freaking love all the Hollywood references in the last few years. There has been a lot.

He's meant to be a generic trooper.

The first couple waves of figures aren't movie accurate. The Cobra Trooper doesn't appear in the movie, neither does Duke/Flint in those looks or Roadblock.

Because of timing issues, having to get product on shelves, the first couple waves weren't going to be movie accurate.

I think both joe and cobra troopers are post Z war.

[grunt0341]

I was planning to get at least 5 for generic Joe troopers and use the 'Halo' head then paint the mohawk a darker brown, Lifeline's m-4, 3 pack Beachhead's body (switch out the upper legs with Ret. Snake Eyes/30th Viper)...bag up the extra 4 Mohawk heads...for a modern Grunt...

[Galaxus]

An updated greenshirt?

[B and H Comics]

My buddy Brad says he maybe a new character to him named Mongoose.


DOC


LOL this is who Tatum Duke is in my little joe imagination, a new guy named Mongosse, he has makes every mission and has a new look each time.

oh and the trooper is... Soap

[speedocub]

I shall call him MOE

[fireflyguy]

Because of timing issues, having to get product on shelves, the first couple waves weren't going to be movie accurate.

This is called irony, isn't it?


I think the Retaliation Joe trooper is supposed to be Bruce, a guy who lives down my street. He has a Mohawk.

[X-factorz]

How about a modern Hawk? Kinda looks like the Renegades Hawk head plus the cloak/cape gives him a bit of grandeur.

[Trigue]

When and if I can ever find one I'm using it as one of Flint's Falcon squad or whatever it was from Renegades. It's almost...kinda close if you squint your eyes real hard. Atleast that'll be my use for the movie Joe Troopers until Hasbro makes a real Renegades verison.

[Colder Soldier]

Except for the Beachhead head, I do not care for this figure at all.

[Derek]

I use him as Beachhead.

[jdviper]

Jhonny messner
From tears of the sun?

[Un_Chakal]

I wonder if the Beachhead head was supposed to go with the 3-pack one, being as it is ALSO the Sideshow style BH... Could just put it with him as his alternate head since it totally makes sense now.

Sideshow Beachhead without mask
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/S5If1tDBGkI/AAAAAAAATAg/U0ppKmL8BMc/s400/26281_press04-001.jpg

Sideshow Beachhead with mask
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2628_press06-001.jpg

Retaliation Beachhead
http://generalsjoes.com/images/reviews/2012/retaliation/battlepacks/dojo_battle/beachhead-13.jpg

Its so obvious once it's been pointed out to you.

[X-factorz]

If anyone here is photoshop savvy, would you mind putting a patch over the right eye of the trooper head and posting it here?

[Dealer Destro]

I am still trying to figure out how in the hell he slipped past legal. These guys look like UNSC drop troopers. I am going to buy as many as I can before Bungie gets word of this......

[ero]

I still think that head was going to be Renegades Hawk.

[BEAM]

He's meant to be a generic soldier but in my Joeverse there is no such thing. Same holds true for Steel Brigade. If you're a Joe, you have a specialized talent and deserve a unique code name.

I just got him yesterday at Walmart while on the weekly grocery food run. I haven't opened him yet or taken the time to think of a good code name.

[RolandofGilead]

They call him.... TIM.

[Cobra Terrorist]

I'm still wondering what little changes I can make to each one (to distinguish them a little). I'm looking through my figs to find different head choices too.

[CliffSteele]

He's meant to be a generic trooper.

The first couple waves of figures aren't movie accurate. The Cobra Trooper doesn't appear in the movie, neither does Duke/Flint in those looks or Roadblock.

Because of timing issues, having to get product on shelves, the first couple waves weren't going to be movie accurate.

I bought Ret. Duke (which looks great w/ a POC Duke head) and then I went back and watched the Ret. trailer again. The armor is actually pretty accurate if you look close. It's just that the rest of the outfit should have been desert camo instead of that weird green. Flint presumably wears the same thing in that scene so his figure is somewhat accurate as well (again, minus the camo).

I almost forgot, I picked up a G.I. Trooper yesterday and, other than the soft plastic, he's awesome!

[VideoViper]

Dreadnok..... Joes just don't know it yet.

http://www.joeaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC06042.jpg

[RolandofGilead]

It's ZARTAN!!!!

Looks like I have a Ninja Force Zartan to look forward to when I get me an extra Joe Trooper.



Of course first I have to get just one.

[X-factorz]

How about a modern Hawk? Kinda looks like the Renegades Hawk head plus the cloak/cape gives him a bit of grandeur.

If anyone here is photoshop savvy, would you mind putting a patch over the right eye of the trooper head and posting it here?

I still think that head was going to be Renegades Hawk.

Agreed!

[KINGOFNOD5]

once I get my hands on a Tan version I'm going to call him Grunt and the blue ones will be his unit.

great figure I really hope who ever wants one will get them.

[qwe]

I agree. That head is totally sideshow beachhead. Also, I freaking love all the Hollywood references in the last few years. There has been a lot.


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/conradmerz/beach.jpg

It is to close to the SS beachhead not to have something to do with it,
He is but another helmet-less steel brigade in my army...

[polyphenus]

Honestly, the mohawk bugs me. I guess I can either display the figure with the mask or just swap out the head.

[TheRealDubya]

Honestly, the mohawk bugs me. I guess I can either display the figure with the mask or just swap out the head.

A lot of soliders (througout history) have rocked 'hawks, so it's appropriate and I think kinda of refreshing to have a new cut.

[Cobra Terrorist]

Dreadnok..... Joes just don't know it yet.

http://www.joeaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC06042.jpg

Lol, that's a really smart place to stash those knives. His right thigh must be full of stab wounds!


Honestly, the mohawk bugs me. I guess I can either display the figure with the mask or just swap out the head.

I personally really like it. The face sculpt is great by itself, and the mohawk seems "realistic" somehow; like that's what a mid-20's Army Ranger-kinda guy might actually have.

[TheRealDubya]

Hey Cobra Soldier, were you gonna post a pic of a kitbash or not?

[Jmacq1]

He's every military/sci-fi first-person-shooter protagonist rolled into one. Seriously, between the "Master Chief meets Ghost Recon" head and a backpack that carries a multitude of weapons....

I need two or three more. Fantastic figure and I've already figured out how they fit into my "Joe Verse."

Definitely the "Gem" of Wave 1.

[polyphenus]

A lot of soliders (througout history) have rocked 'hawks, so it's appropriate and I think kinda of refreshing to have a new cut.

But for a supposed army builder or generic soldier, it looks weird to me that all of the GI Joe troopers have this same exact haircut.

[Jmacq1]

But for a supposed army builder or generic soldier, it looks weird to me that all of the GI Joe troopers have this same exact haircut.

I think it's supposed to be less mohawk, more "high and tight." But yeah, unless the Joes have gotten into the cloning business or you happen to be handy with a paintbrush, the unmasked head is of limited value in large numbers.

Great for customizers though, I'd imagine.

[figureware]

I kinda think he looks a lil like the Renegades Army Troopers.

[Atomic Platypus]

Jhonny messner
From tears of the sun?


JD Viper you hit it right on the money man. I thought it was sideshow Beachhead at first, but after looking at this pic, its undeniable. Only difference is the hair color. Its down to the chin and everything. Saying that, even Soap from MW and Sev from Killzone all look the same anyway.


Here is Johnny Messner in Tears of the Sun


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KnT0w4-cVYw/TcmT9X3fAcI/AAAAAAAAAS8/MG31hsa6f0w/s1600/tearsofthesun_p23.jpg

[blackbarn]

I'm no Military expert by any stretch, but I've never seen any Military man have a haircut like that.

Is this something I'm missing? Why would Beach Head have a mohawk?

BH is badass and the haircut would fit, but I just thought it would be a bit inappropriate for the Military.

G.I. Joe is basically like the real-life Delta Force, and there's a lot of lenience with hair, clothes, etc. so they do not stand out as obvious military personnel.

[Jmacq1]

JD Viper you hit it right on the money man. I thought it was sideshow Beachhead at first, but after looking at this pic, its undeniable. Only difference is the hair color. Its down to the chin and everything. Saying that, even Soap from MW and Sev from Killzone all look the same anyway.


Here is Johnny Messner in Tears of the Sun


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KnT0w4-cVYw/TcmT9X3fAcI/AAAAAAAAAS8/MG31hsa6f0w/s1600/tearsofthesun_p23.jpg

It doubly makes sense as an "homage" when you figure that Messner was the voice of Flint in G.I. Joe: Renegades.

[Un_Chakal]

Lol, that's a really smart place to stash those knives. His right thigh must be full of stab wounds!

I was quite literally laughing out loud for a while! So true!

[Trigue]

Don't forget all those D-Day paratroopers that were rockin' the mohawk. It's still some kind of airborne unit tradition.

[Dolemite]

I just look at the Joe trooper as a member of the Steel Brigade.

[snowviper]

Its better than the 25 the beach headsculpt. Def my unmasked beach.

[Riotheory]

I don't get the rubbery thing. The back pack is very rubbery, but compared to Star Wars and MU figures, Joe Trooper feels rock solid.

R.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I don't get the rubbery thing. The back pack is very rubbery, but compared to Star Wars and MU figures, Joe Trooper feels rock solid.

R.

Yeah I would have rather had him have 2 holsters, least one on his belt vs. the knife holder or one on both hips...the back pack is a huge slung together mess lol...hate the way the guns fall outta of it...thinking of gluing it all together...or cutting the holsters and gluing them to his hips...

[vermillion21]

The regular helmet is the "Master Chief"- in the same vein as other borrowing POC favorites like "Aliens" Duke, and "Predator" Spirit, Shadow Tracker, Firefly, etc...

^ This. Very cool fig, one of the best in the Retaliation line so far.

[Jinx723]

"Who was Retaliation Trooper supposed to be?"

It's Clutch after her shaved...http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/6/9/9/2/7/G-I-Joe-Retaliation-Wall-Calendar-2_1343937866.jpg

[Loose Cannon]

The headsculpt is Sideshow Beachhead.

The regular helmet is the "Master Chief"- in the same vein as other borrowing POC favorites like "Aliens" Duke, and "Predator" Spirit, Shadow Tracker, Firefly, etc...

Absolutely agree. Sideshow Beachhead all the way. But I like my other Beachheads so I use the Master Chief helmet as Master Chief John and use the Sideshow Beachhead Mohawk as Effects. Both are Navy EOD in my verse.

EFFECTS (v1), YOJOE.COM | YoJoe.com: Dedicated to the G.I.Joe of the 80's, 90's and beyond! (http://www.yojoe.com/action/94/effects.shtml)

I use that great 3 pack Beachhead as Sneak Peek in my vere BTW.

[vermillion21]

"Who was Retaliation Trooper supposed to be?"

It's Clutch after her shaved...http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/6/9/9/2/7/G-I-Joe-Retaliation-Wall-Calendar-2_1343937866.jpg

ha ha ... good call!!

[Xerofall]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/IMAG0314.jpg

[Ford]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/conradmerz/beach.jpg


"I like them French fried potaters"

[Xerofall]

Umm wow, I normally like the Sideshow stuff, but that facial expression is stooopid looking.

[RolandofGilead]

Still don't understand the cape. Which is why I traded all mine away to a fellow Tanker.

[Xerofall]

Still don't understand the cape.

So they can walk around like a Sir.

[goodguys9]

GI Joe Trooper is the only single figure I've got from wave 1; I'm waiting on the better figures from the next wave especially Flint.

[BIG B0A]

Umm wow, I normally like the Sideshow stuff, but that facial expression is stooopid looking.

Kinda looks like they were trying to make him look like he's got chewing tobacco in his lip but still make him look angry.

[DarkHorse]

Sideshow BH looks like a legit spastic.

[TENIME_art]

Ret Trooper headsculpt + 3pk Beachhead body + Ren Tunnel Rat scarf + Steel Brigade vest = my new favorite figure.

The patch on his right shoulder is icing on the cake.

Pics when I get to work.

I don't have Photoshop at work, only Paint, nor do I have all the figures yet (Steel Brigade is in the mail on his way), but this is what I came up with thanks to Generals Joes, based off Colder's description:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/tenimeart/trooperbash.jpg

[vermillion21]

not bad