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paulpratt
05-23-2012, 04:38 PM
'G.I. Joe: Retaliation' Moving To March 2013 To Add 3D For Bigger Foreign Box Office - Deadline.com (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/g-i-joe-retaliation-moving-to-march-2012-to-add-3d-for-bigger-foreign-box-office/)

Hollywood Shocker: ‘G.I. Joe: Retaliation’ Bumped to March 2013 | Media Market Journal (http://www.mediamarketjournal.com/2012/05/hollywood-shocker-g-i-joe-retaliation-bumped-to-march-2013/)

G.I. Joe: Retaliation Delayed Until 2013 - ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=90579)

G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gi-joe-retaliation-film-to-be-released-in-3d-2012-05-23)

sparks007
05-23-2012, 04:40 PM
There is no way this can be true.

RolandofGilead
05-23-2012, 04:40 PM
No way it's delayed just a month before it's release date.

Xenos
05-23-2012, 04:40 PM
Holy crap.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 04:43 PM
No way.....

CobraCrimson
05-23-2012, 04:43 PM
This.better.not.be.true!!!

So if this is true, we get stuck with a shitty line of movie figures instead of continuing 30th and then what if this gets released next year? WTF?!

Or, are they going to pull the Retaliation line now before wave 2 hits.....or even wave 1 officially?

Uh oh!

rdodger
05-23-2012, 04:43 PM
Hope not. I hate 3D.

rglass2
05-23-2012, 04:44 PM
Shenanigans...calling it as shenanigans

gruppenfuhrer88
05-23-2012, 04:44 PM
Not possible.....

Spectre
05-23-2012, 04:45 PM
WOW!!!!
I wonder how reliable that site is.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 04:45 PM
So Retaliation really is the 13th figure.

Xenos
05-23-2012, 04:45 PM
I assume that if this really is true that we will just see a year's worth of movie figures. Maybe that's why Hasbro has five waves planned out already, when they usually only do two for movie lines.

I personally have a hard time believing this is true, but who knows.

sharky
05-23-2012, 04:45 PM
If you go by what other reports have said in that the international audience tends to support these kinds of movies, then perhaps it's true.

Atreides
05-23-2012, 04:46 PM
I'm sure retailers would love to have toys on their shelves for a movie that won't be released for another 9 months!

And we get in on Blue ray before theatrical release.

I call shenanigans!

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 04:48 PM
Edited original post with another site explaining a bit behind the delay.

Xenos
05-23-2012, 04:48 PM
I'm sure retailers would love to have toys on their shelves for a movie that won't be released for another 9 months!

I call shenanigans!

Would it be any worse in their minds then having GI Joes that aren't backed by anything like it's been for the last three years?

07GT500 COBRA
05-23-2012, 04:48 PM
Is the GI Joe Club working on post-production for the movie?

RolandofGilead
05-23-2012, 04:49 PM
*checks calendar*

Nope, it's not April Fools' Day.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 04:50 PM
Is the GI Joe Club working on post-production for the movie?

Nice.

MonkeyBoyZ
05-23-2012, 04:53 PM
The Official Movie site still has the June 29th date. No other news source seems to have this story at this time. Movie a release date this close to the announced release date doesn't do anything but kill the chances a movie has at box office unless the studio decided to start marketing all over again.

Hobbes-timus Prime
05-23-2012, 04:54 PM
Not until next year? 'G.I. Joe: Retaliation' Release Date -- Moving To March 2013 To Add 3D (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/g-i-joe-retaliation-moving-to-march-2012-to-add-3d-for-bigger-foreign-box-office/)

Say it isn't so! Maybe this is just for international releases and it still comes out in America this summer...

Dod Ear
05-23-2012, 04:54 PM
More reports. This looks like it's really possible. Disappointing if so.

GI JOE: RETALIATION To Be Pushed Back By Almost A Year (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60281)

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/G-I-Joe-Retaliation-Pushed-Back-March-2013-Converted-3D-31078.html%3Cbr%3E

G.I. JOSEPH
05-23-2012, 04:55 PM
crazy sauce.

RolandofGilead
05-23-2012, 04:55 PM
That's true. They've already spent so much promoting it for the June release, all that money would be wasted with a delay.

Snow_Serpent
05-23-2012, 04:56 PM
It likely tested horribly and with the flop that was "Battleship" execs are in panic mode. (If this is true)

Nothing on Twitter from the director.....

Xenos
05-23-2012, 04:56 PM
And it's official:
G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gi-joe-retaliation-film-to-be-released-in-3d-2012-05-23)

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 04:56 PM
Coming Soon added to the list.

Melt
05-23-2012, 04:57 PM
Fuck 3D. Isn't this fad over yet?

RolandofGilead
05-23-2012, 04:57 PM
So does this mean Wal-mart and TRU can forget the schedule and put all the Retaliation toys on the shelves now?

Also, does this mean Hasbro has 6 months to make more movie accurate toys and vehicles?

Adamantite
05-23-2012, 04:57 PM
And it's official:
G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gi-joe-retaliation-film-to-be-released-in-3d-2012-05-23)


The hell???!!

sharky
05-23-2012, 04:58 PM
I'm sure retailers would love to have toys on their shelves for a movie that won't be released for another 9 months!

And we get in on Blue ray before theatrical release.

I call shenanigans!
Oh, crap! You're right. Teh end of the line!

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 04:58 PM
Being picked up in a ton of other reports now.

What a great way to tank a major summer blockbuster. This movie actually had my non-GI Joe fan friends (and their wives) really excited. Had a great word-of-mouth buzz, a Superbowl commercial, and great trailers.

In almost a year from now, all this great momentum will be gone.

What a waste.

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 04:59 PM
here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-live-action-movie/235554-retaliation-delayed-until-march-2013-a.html

Xaven
05-23-2012, 04:59 PM
I wouldn't think so. Hasbro has already sent out the figures to the stores, Paramount already has three trailers out, and the film is being scored right now. I don't think it will be in 3D.

We would know by now.

ChaplainAsst
05-23-2012, 05:00 PM
This really kicks the feet out from under JoeCon....

Atreides
05-23-2012, 05:00 PM
Would it be any worse in their minds then having GI Joes that aren't backed by anything like it's been for the last three years?

The difference is that these are "movie" figures.

Hobbes-timus Prime
05-23-2012, 05:00 PM
here:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-live-action-movie/235554-retaliation-delayed-until-march-2013-a.htmlWhoops.

Thanks.

Xenos
05-23-2012, 05:01 PM
This is pretty crazy news. I can't remember a movie ever geting pushed back so close to its release date.

drunknmunky
05-23-2012, 05:01 PM
I blame Avengers.

Sciencefriction
05-23-2012, 05:02 PM
Well of all of the stupid, wasteful, costly things to do. You can bet that they just killed all of my interest in this movie. )#$) them, I'll stick with RAH. This is just another in the long list of ways Hasbro is completely mismanaging G.I. Joe and driving it into the ground.

Dod Ear
05-23-2012, 05:02 PM
Iwith the flop that was "Battleship" execs are in panic mode. (If this is true)

Good point.

If this is true it wil be really interesting to see what happens with Hasbro's retail partners. Just speculation on my part, but after the market was saturated with ROC product thinking they had a Transformers scenario on their hands I don't think it was the easiest sell to get them on board with this film's toy line. And now having them stock product for a movie that won't be released for 9 months? Yikes.

Big IV
05-23-2012, 05:04 PM
That is going to suck. I was looking forward to this and I don't want to watch it in 3D.

sharky
05-23-2012, 05:04 PM
The toyline is out already as people have been buying them at stores. So, does this mean that they'll have nothing for 2013 movie-wise? Will they not get any later waves of the movie line? Lots of questions that need answers.

Roshan
05-23-2012, 05:04 PM
Dooooooomm!!!!!

AlecZeal1989
05-23-2012, 05:05 PM
Honestly, if this is true I see it as being a potential end of the line scenario...

I know a LOT of people who were excited for Retaliation that really never cared about GI Joe before hand...this just ruins everything...

Angry.Android
05-23-2012, 05:05 PM
wow, hasbro management needs some house cleaning. what a cluster!

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:05 PM
That is going to suck. I was looking forward to this and I don't want to watch it in 3D.

I never see 3D movies. I think they're a gimic. If a movie is good enough, it doesn't need to be 3D.

In Like Flint
05-23-2012, 05:05 PM
It honestly doesn't surprise me. Movie studios are stupid these days. Or greedy. Or both.

ATCVenom
05-23-2012, 05:06 PM
I hope that this is some kinda horrible, twisted, and cruel joke/rumor.

Veedubguy83
05-23-2012, 05:06 PM
Greedy corporate bastards... All I have to say... Fuck'em all!!!

CM901
05-23-2012, 05:06 PM
Goddamn it, this is wrong.

Trigue
05-23-2012, 05:07 PM
E-mail from the club:

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



Contacts:
News Media:
Wayne Charness
401-727-5983

Investor:
Debbie Hancock
401-727-5401


G.I. JOE: RETALIATION FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 3D
Hasbro Reaffirms 2012 Guidance that it Expects to Grow Revenues and Earnings Per Share Absent the Impact of Foreign Exchange
PAWTUCKET, R.I., MAY 23, 2012—Hasbro, Inc (NASDAQ:HAS), and Paramount Pictures, announced today that G.I. JOE: RETALIATION will now be released in 3D. The film, originally slated for release in June 2012, is scheduled to be released March 29, 2013.
“It is increasingly evident that 3D resonates with movie-goers globally and together with Paramount, we made the decision to bring fans an even more immersive entertainment experience,” said Brian Goldner, Hasbro’s President and CEO.
“In 2012, we continue to have several strong motion picture and television entertainment backed properties that are selling well at retail and our entertainment strategy remains strong and on-track,” Goldner said. “Through our own Hasbro Studios for television and in partnership with several movie studios including Paramount, Universal, Sony and Relativity, we are creating entertainment experiences around many of our highly popular iconic brands.
For the full year 2012, we continue to believe, absent the impact of foreign exchange, we will again grow revenues and earnings per share.”

Certain statements in this release contain "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements include expectations concerning the Company’s potential performance in 2012, including with respect to its revenues and earnings per share, and business goals and may be identified by the use of forward-looking words or phrases. The Company's actual actions or results may differ materially from those expected or anticipated in the forward-looking statements due to both known and unknown risks and uncertainties. Specific factors that might cause such a difference include, but are not limited to: (i) the Company's ability to design, manufacture, source and ship new and continuing products on a timely and cost-effective basis, as well as interest in and purchase of those products by retail customers and consumers in quantities and at prices that will be sufficient to profitably recover the Company’s development, manufacturing, marketing, royalty and other costs; (ii) global economic conditions, including recessions, credit crises or other economic shocks or downturns which can negatively impact the retail and/or credit markets, the financial health of the Company’s retail customers and consumers, and consumer and business confidence, and which can result in lower employment levels, less consumer disposable income, and lower consumer spending, including lower spending on purchases of the Company’s products; (iii) other factors which can lower discretionary consumer spending, such as higher costs for fuel and food, drops in the value of homes or other consumer assets, and high levels of consumer debt; 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(viii) greater than expected costs, or unexpected delays or difficulties, associated with the Company’s investment in its joint venture with Discovery Communications, LLC, to operate THE HUB network and the creation of new content to appear on the network and elsewhere; (ix) consumer interest in and acceptance of the joint venture network, and programming created by Hasbro Studios, and other factors impacting the financial performance of the joint venture and Hasbro Studios; (x) greater than expected costs or unexpected delays or difficulties associated with the creation of Hasbro’s Gaming Center of Excellence and the execution of the Company’s strategy for driving innovation and immersive play experiences in its gaming business; (xi) unexpected delays or difficulties in the Company’s execution of its plans to drive growth and increased profitability in its U.S. and Canada business; (xii) the inventory policies of the Company’s retail customers, including retailers’ potential decisions to lower the inventories they are willing to carry, even if it results in lost sales, as well as the concentration of the Company's revenues in the second half and fourth quarter of the year, which coupled with reliance by retailers on quick response inventory management techniques increases the risk of underproduction of popular items, overproduction of less popular items and failure to achieve tight and compressed shipping schedules; (xiii) work stoppages, slowdowns or strikes, which may impact the Company's ability to manufacture or deliver product in a timely and cost-effective manner; (xiv) the bankruptcy or other lack of success of one of the Company's significant retailers which could negatively impact the Company's revenues or bad debt exposure; (xv) the impact of competition on revenues, margins and other aspects of the Company's business, including the ability to secure, maintain and renew popular licenses and the ability to attract and retain talented employees in a competitive environment; (xvi) concentration of manufacturing for many of the Company’s products in the People’s Republic of China and the associated impact to the Company of public health conditions and other factors affecting social and economic activity in China, affecting the movement of products into and out of China, and impacting the cost of producing products in China and exporting them to other countries; (xvii) the risk of product recalls or product liability suits and costs associated with product safety regulations; (xviii) other market conditions, third party actions or approvals and the impact of competition which could reduce demand for the Company’s products or delay or increase the cost of implementation of the Company's programs or alter the Company's actions and reduce actual results; (xix) the risk that anticipated benefits of acquisitions may not occur or be delayed or reduced in their realization; and (xx) other risks and uncertainties as may be detailed from time to time in the Company's public announcements and Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) filings. The Company undertakes no obligation to make any revisions to the forward-looking statements contained in this release or to update them to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of this release.

About Hasbro
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JohnnyAngel77
05-23-2012, 05:07 PM
Wow, that's pretty insane if this is true. Just to "convert" it to shitty 3D?

steve_smmr
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
wow. this is terrible. i can't even explain in words how idiotic this is.

Sky Hawk
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
WOW!!! That sucks!!!

Sciencefriction
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
F$#( Battleship it was a stupid idea to begin with. They should have used G.I. Joe to recoup there loses, now they've shot themselves in the foot. I can assure you I won't be seeing the movie in theaters because of this, I don't care anymore. First they decide to make it all about ninjas, make Roadblock head of the Joes, and then do this? I've had my fill, whatever, I won't support a franchise that doesn't care anymore.

AlecZeal1989
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Does it really take THAT long to add in 3D effects?

sba
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Boy Hasbro sure knows the best ways to mismanage the property don't they?

Griffin73
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Is it April 1st? This is total BS. Do they know how many people will be pissed?

facehammer
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Whoops.

Thanks.

You said it before I could... wow. Just. Wow.

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Well they will still only get 9 bucks out of me because I f#cking despise 3D movies.

I was wondering when this new movie would finally screw up.

drunknmunky
05-23-2012, 05:09 PM
Doesn't Hasbro know the world is ending in December?

Scarlett-Jinx
05-23-2012, 05:09 PM
LOL I guess they calculated how much extra time will be needed to sell the retaliation toys..... -_-

england joe
05-23-2012, 05:09 PM
Whatever happens, happens.
Personaly i think someones stirring up a hornets nest an itll turn out to be complete an utter nonsence.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:10 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This was baaaad idea.

WOW.

Seriously.

Time to bring back the 30th.

Articulation may recommence.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:10 PM
Whatever happens, happens.
Personaly i think someones stirring up a hornets nest an itll turn out to be complete an utter nonsence.


It's been confirmed.

maradona
05-23-2012, 05:10 PM
Wow! Just wow. The film was five weeks from release. Considering toys need to get developed so much time in advance to be released during scheduled periods, this seems destined to impact the toy line. How will the film's toy line get stretched so long?

Stevejr
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
Hasbro is f****d they basically shit on the 30th anniversary for the movie line which now has no movie to sell them.

Xaven
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
Okay. After spending all this money to promote the film, they choose to convert NOW, after sending out the toys, releasing trailers, and all these interviews, Paramount tries to go 3D for it.

And this is reason number 5 why I want filmmaking to go back to what it used to be.

steve_smmr
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
good god. i still can't believe this is true. such a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

angelofdeath69
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
This is a really stupid desiscion, by the time they get the movie again in 3D all the momentum will be looooooong gone and people will not care a bit. not even the fans.

Atreides
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
With how much of a fad 3D has been the last several years I'm surprised it wasn't filmed that way in the first place.

That said, I hate 3D movies.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
Dear makers of "battleship",

thanks a lot.

Sincerely,

joe fans

Gideon75
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
It appears the studio and Hasbro got scared after seeing what happened with Battleship. GI Joe 2 looks way better, has a better cast, and characters. I don't think they had anything to worry about.

Jettfire
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
Guess the DG Joes were more popular than anyone thought.

sba
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This was baaaad idea.

WOW.

Seriously.

Time to bring back the 30th.

Articulation may recommence.

You might need to get to work on some more customs, fast.

punking
05-23-2012, 05:11 PM
From Variety

Paramount boots 'G.I. Joe' to 2013
Studio sez it's decided to convert the pic to 3D
By ANDREW STEWART
Paramount is making a last-minute move to its summer schedule by pushing back "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" from June 29 to March 29, 2013, to give the studio time to convert the pic to 3D.
The studio said the drastic move was motivated by focus groups in which auds questioned why the film wasn't in stereo. The multi-dimensional presentation also will give "G.I. Joe" added oomph overseas.

According to Par, several 3D companies approached Par to convert the film for a rate not to exceed $10 million in return for a take of the 3D upside. Pic cost a reported $125 million.

Roshan
05-23-2012, 05:12 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This was baaaad idea.

WOW.

Seriously.

Time to bring back the 30th.

Articulation may recommence.


If that would be the case, then those retaliation toys out on shelves might be pretty damn collectible if they pull them or cancel orders that are currently in the pipe.

jogunwarrior
05-23-2012, 05:12 PM
3-D sucks. I hope this is a mistake...though even if the reports are real I still think its a mistake.

Sgt. Airborne
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
Wow... I believe this was a what-not-to-do model from my Marketing 101 class circa 1991.

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
You have got to be kidding me. They just lost any momentum that the awesome trailers have been generating. This movie will be buried amid an early Spring release and will not do nearly as well as it could have.

Maybe the studio didn't want The Dark Knight Rises to plow it under but I still think it would have done better than Battleship did versus The Avengers.

Huge mistake but I'll gladly eat my words if I'm proven wrong come next March.

jogunwarrior
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
If that would be the case, then those retaliation toys out on shelves might be pretty damn collectible if they pull them or cancel orders that are currently in the pipe.

Yeah I hope I get my Ghost Hawk and HISS today!

helrod
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
makes no good since 3-D is a proven fail.

that article's fact are all wrong it sites titanic a movie that flopped due to 3-D re release.
also Star Wars was a huge bomb the biggest of the year so far.
it did so poorly that they have stopped any further plans to put out the rest in 3-D
Theaters in my area were showing Avengers a day and 2 days early in 3-D just to try and get people to go.
seems like this would be bigger news, and also why are they still spending money advertising June release if its not going to happen

Melt
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
Movie gets leaked to internet sometime over the next 9 months. Calling it now.

JamesBenjamin
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
I call BS. Its a bunch of blogs.

But we'll see in the next day or two when someone at Hasbro/Paramount or directly attached to the movie confirms/denies it.

Lantern_Lad
05-23-2012, 05:13 PM
Don't know how reliable it is, but the website still says June.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/lantern_lad-albums-my+collection++crap%21-picture51522-screen-shot-2012-05-23-2-11-07-pm.png

driftwood
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Well ain't that some bull shit.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
OMG Hasbro

You managed to do it again

Well it looks like my money is going to go into Legos and Transformers now.

Thanks for continuing to mismanage the franchise dipshits

**EDIT**

After reading the article I call BS

***EDIT***

PHUCK
YOU
HASBRO

Medcom77
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/g-joe-retaliation-film-released-204200865.html)
Yahoo has posted it as well....seriously, i feel like the mayan calendar just became all too real...

dorian247
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Really? I kinda shocked. I blame battleship even though I think GI Joe is far superior just based on the cast but with such a big summer already maybe its a wise choice to move it... still its weird to move it so close to its release.

Trigue
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
I posted an e-mail from the club about it back on page 5. It's offical.

AlecZeal1989
05-23-2012, 05:15 PM
Seriously...

How the hell does it take THAT LONG to convert a movie to 3D?

I'm finished after this. They're making it too damn hard to continue to be a fan of Joe with this garbage...

Tony_Bacala
05-23-2012, 05:16 PM
G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D (NYSE:HAS) (http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=676370)

It's Real...

tycondrius
05-23-2012, 05:16 PM
wth ok so what else are they gonna do to crap all over the Gi joe fans. lets see shitatuclar driver figures because of cost cutting and now this !! they really really want this line to die or somthing !!

DESTRO
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Its official.

Hasbro, Inc. - Press Releases (http://investor.hasbro.com/releases.cfm)

Sciencefriction
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
IM3 is set for May 3rd, so unless G.I. Joe is an early March release it's going to get crushed. You were better off against Spider-Man and Batman. Idiots.

Colder Soldier
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Whaaaa???

This is the wowest moment ever on the 'Tank.

Wow.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Who knew back in 1985 that Battleship would cause the end of the GI Joe franchise?

All is lost. Seriously. This is it.

A.C.T.
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Thats fucked up...don't know if its smart or not, but thats some wack-ass shit going down.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
So Retaliation really is the 13th figure.

13th NAIL is more like it

:D

spiderpumpkin
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
So much for Night Viper.

DESTRO
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Direct Link.

G.I. JOE: RETALIATION Film to Be Released in 3D (NYSE:HAS) (http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=676370)

manic mailman
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
Are they still showing the movie at Joecon???

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 05:17 PM
the 3d conversion process is not aimed at the united states. Titanic brought in hundreds of millions of dollars, specificall from china. The film broke box office records there. Titanic was already the second highest grossing film of all time, the 3d money is only gravy on top. The same with Phantom Menace. Both films did very well for being 100% rehashed media.

Attack of the clones is set for release in February 2013.

makes no good since 3-D is a proven fail.

that article's fact are all wrong it sites titanic a movie that flopped due to 3-D re release.
also Star Wars was a huge bomb the biggest of the year so far.
it did so poorly that they have stopped any further plans to put out the rest in 3-D
Theaters in my area were showing Avengers a day and 2 days early in 3-D just to try and get people to go.
seems like this would be bigger news, and also why are they still spending money advertising June release if its not going to happen

07GT500 COBRA
05-23-2012, 05:18 PM
Maybe they won't kill off Duke now.

RolandofGilead
05-23-2012, 05:18 PM
So I can accept the release date change. It's a bad idea which may come back to bite them, but it's their movie and Paramount can do what it wants.

What I'd like to know is how it affects all those Retaliation toys sitting on shelves and in back rooms waiting to be sold. Do they go out on the street date anyways? Do they all get returned?

Just wondering if I will still be able to get my Red Ninjas.

Darth_Risar
05-23-2012, 05:18 PM
This has got to be one of the stupidest marketing moves ever.

orezona
05-23-2012, 05:18 PM
HOLY SHIT.

I guess all that money that Hasbro/Paramount spent on the Super Bowl ad was well invested, eh?

http://c.cslacker.com/2756l.jpg

Will this have an effect on the retailer/etailers that have CASES of toys they were preparing to start selling in less than a week???

carion
05-23-2012, 05:18 PM
Hasbro is f****d they basically shit on the 30th anniversary for the movie line which now has no movie to sell them.

Can you imagine what a pain I the @$$ this is for the toy designers at Hasbro. They work hard to try and give us a great 30th anniversary series just to be told to scrap everything to push up a rush job for the movie. Now they have all this half @$$ product coming out and no movie, then they are going to have a movie next year without any product or to much. Either way the line is screwed for the next two years.

CrimsonGuard101
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
incredible...

Stepehen Sommers called and wants his ROC back..so paramount obliged...

At least now we can get some movie accurate toys...next year...

Xenos
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Wow! Just wow. The film was five weeks from release. Considering toys need to get developed so much time in advance to be released during scheduled periods, this seems destined to impact the toy line. How will the film's toy line get stretched so long?

Well, they already have five waves of figures planned out. All of last year they had like six waves, so they should have enough stuff to make it to the movie, and they are obviously working on more stuff right now.

Blaster'spunchingbagg
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
I can't believe this shit!!! Here I am waiting for a decent Joe movie and they put the K-Bosh to it already. Brian Goldner YOU SUCK!!!

fireflyguy
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Wow. This sucks! What about the toys?

Stevejr
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
What happens to all that product about to go on toy shelves?

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
I call BS. Its a bunch of blogs.

But we'll see in the next day or two when someone at Hasbro/Paramount or directly attached to the movie confirms/denies it.

Deadline Hollywood is an industry publication akin to the hollywood reporter or variety. Also, there has been an official press release sent out now.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:19 PM
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAH

wow.

Yeah... still can't... HAHAHAHAH.
oh. wow.


Move the film forward.
Interrupt the 30th for gimmick film toys.
Move the film back even further.


HAHAHAHHAHA.


OK.

ssgjasonw
05-23-2012, 05:20 PM
Why is this happening!! We got the finger right in the middle of the release of the awesome POC figures for the crappy movie ones and now this? Who cares if it's in 3D? This is BS!

starbuck
05-23-2012, 05:20 PM
E-mail from the club:

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



Contacts:
News Media:
Wayne Charness
401-727-5983

Investor:
Debbie Hancock
401-727-5401


G.I. JOE: RETALIATION FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 3D
Hasbro Reaffirms 2012 Guidance that it Expects to Grow Revenues and Earnings Per Share Absent the Impact of Foreign Exchange
PAWTUCKET, R.I., MAY 23, 2012—Hasbro, Inc (NASDAQ:HAS), and Paramount Pictures, announced today that G.I. JOE: RETALIATION will now be released in 3D. The film, originally slated for release in June 2012, is scheduled to be released March 29, 2013.
“It is increasingly evident that 3D resonates with movie-goers globally and together with Paramount, we made the decision to bring fans an even more immersive entertainment experience,” said Brian Goldner, Hasbro’s President and CEO.
“In 2012, we continue to have several strong motion picture and television entertainment backed properties that are selling well at retail and our entertainment strategy remains strong and on-track,” Goldner said. “Through our own Hasbro Studios for television and in partnership with several movie studios including Paramount, Universal, Sony and Relativity, we are creating entertainment experiences around many of our highly popular iconic brands.
For the full year 2012, we continue to believe, absent the impact of foreign exchange, we will again grow revenues and earnings per share.”

Certain statements in this release contain "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements include expectations concerning the Company’s potential performance in 2012, including with respect to its revenues and earnings per share, and business goals and may be identified by the use of forward-looking words or phrases. The Company's actual actions or results may differ materially from those expected or anticipated in the forward-looking statements due to both known and unknown risks and uncertainties. Specific factors that might cause such a difference include, but are not limited to: (i) the Company's ability to design, manufacture, source and ship new and continuing products on a timely and cost-effective basis, as well as interest in and purchase of those products by retail customers and consumers in quantities and at prices that will be sufficient to profitably recover the Company’s development, manufacturing, marketing, royalty and other costs; (ii) global economic conditions, including recessions, credit crises or other economic shocks or downturns which can negatively impact the retail and/or credit markets, the financial health of the Company’s retail customers and consumers, and consumer and business confidence, and which can result in lower employment levels, less consumer disposable income, and lower consumer spending, including lower spending on purchases of the Company’s products; (iii) other factors which can lower discretionary consumer spending, such as higher costs for fuel and food, drops in the value of homes or other consumer assets, and high levels of consumer debt; (iv) other economic and public health conditions in the markets in which the Company and its customers and suppliers operate which impact the Company's ability and cost to manufacture and deliver products, such as higher fuel and other commodity prices, higher labor costs, higher transportation costs, outbreaks of disease which affect public health and the movement of people and goods, and other factors, including government regulations, which can create potential manufacturing and transportation delays or impact costs; (v) currency fluctuations, including movements in foreign exchange rates, which can lower the Company’s net revenues and earnings, and significantly impact the Company’s costs; (vi) delays, increased costs or difficulties associated with the development and release of planned entertainment supporting the Company’s products and brands and consumer interest in and acceptance of such entertainment; (vii) the concentration of the Company's customers, potentially increasing the negative impact to the Company of difficulties experienced by any of the Company’s customers or changes by the Company’s customers in their purchasing or selling patterns; (viii) greater than expected costs, or unexpected delays or difficulties, associated with the Company’s investment in its joint venture with Discovery Communications, LLC, to operate THE HUB network and the creation of new content to appear on the network and elsewhere; (ix) consumer interest in and acceptance of the joint venture network, and programming created by Hasbro Studios, and other factors impacting the financial performance of the joint venture and Hasbro Studios; (x) greater than expected costs or unexpected delays or difficulties associated with the creation of Hasbro’s Gaming Center of Excellence and the execution of the Company’s strategy for driving innovation and immersive play experiences in its gaming business; (xi) unexpected delays or difficulties in the Company’s execution of its plans to drive growth and increased profitability in its U.S. and Canada business; (xii) the inventory policies of the Company’s retail customers, including retailers’ potential decisions to lower the inventories they are willing to carry, even if it results in lost sales, as well as the concentration of the Company's revenues in the second half and fourth quarter of the year, which coupled with reliance by retailers on quick response inventory management techniques increases the risk of underproduction of popular items, overproduction of less popular items and failure to achieve tight and compressed shipping schedules; (xiii) work stoppages, slowdowns or strikes, which may impact the Company's ability to manufacture or deliver product in a timely and cost-effective manner; (xiv) the bankruptcy or other lack of success of one of the Company's significant retailers which could negatively impact the Company's revenues or bad debt exposure; (xv) the impact of competition on revenues, margins and other aspects of the Company's business, including the ability to secure, maintain and renew popular licenses and the ability to attract and retain talented employees in a competitive environment; (xvi) concentration of manufacturing for many of the Company’s products in the People’s Republic of China and the associated impact to the Company of public health conditions and other factors affecting social and economic activity in China, affecting the movement of products into and out of China, and impacting the cost of producing products in China and exporting them to other countries; (xvii) the risk of product recalls or product liability suits and costs associated with product safety regulations; (xviii) other market conditions, third party actions or approvals and the impact of competition which could reduce demand for the Company’s products or delay or increase the cost of implementation of the Company's programs or alter the Company's actions and reduce actual results; (xix) the risk that anticipated benefits of acquisitions may not occur or be delayed or reduced in their realization; and (xx) other risks and uncertainties as may be detailed from time to time in the Company's public announcements and Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) filings. The Company undertakes no obligation to make any revisions to the forward-looking statements contained in this release or to update them to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of this release.

About Hasbro
Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) is a branded play company providing children and families around the world with a wide-range of immersive entertainment offerings based on the Company's world class brand portfolio. The Company’s five major motion pictures to date have generated more than $3 billion dollars at the global box office. From toys and games, to television programming, motion pictures, digital gaming and a comprehensive licensing program, Hasbro strives to delight its global customers with innovative, well-known and beloved brands such as TRANSFORMERS, LITTLEST PET SHOP, NERF, PLAYSKOOL, MY LITTLE PONY, G.I. JOE, MAGIC: THE GATHERING and MONOPOLY. The Company’s Hasbro Studios develops and produces television programming for markets around the world. Programming in the U.S. is distributed on The Hub TV Network, a multi-platform joint venture between Hasbro and Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK). Through the Company's deep commitment to corporate social responsibility, including philanthropy, Hasbro is helping to build a safe and sustainable world for future generations and to positively impact the lives of millions of children and families every year. It has been recognized for its efforts by being named one of the “World’s Most Ethical Companies” and is ranked as one of Corporate Responsibility Magazine’s “100 Best Corporate Citizens.” Learn more at Hasbro Toys, Games, Action Figures and More... (http://www.hasbro.com).
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AlecZeal1989
05-23-2012, 05:20 PM
You know, I thought Battleship looked like a real masterpiece. A real classic for our generation. The only reason I didn't go see it was because it wasn't in 3D.

I say good move, Hasbro/Paramount/Whatever idiot came up with this.

DarkSkyMind
05-23-2012, 05:20 PM
Chris Griffin- Whaaaat? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEtRoZ5FWNc)

Krooklyn Dodger
05-23-2012, 05:21 PM
After reading countless reports on this, I gotta say...... F**K 3D!!! They're overrated!!!! And a big F**K YOU to Hasblow for pushing this back a whole f**king year!!!

dorian247
05-23-2012, 05:21 PM
OMG Hasbro

You managed to do it again

Well it looks like my money is going to go into Legos and Transformers now.

Thanks for continuing to mismanage the franchise dipshits

LOL and yes I agree. except for the legos =)

heymilt
05-23-2012, 05:21 PM
Battleship sank real fast, guess they're afraid of 2 bombs in the same fiscal year. That's the only explanation to pushing it back so far away. That 3D excuse smells like bullshit.

Xenos
05-23-2012, 05:21 PM
IM3 is set for May 3rd, so unless G.I. Joe is an early March release it's going to get crushed. You were better off against Spider-Man and Batman. Idiots.

They said the release date will be March 29th, so that gives them a whole month before Iron Man comes out. THis might actually be a good move seeing as though Retaliation was only projecting to get $44 million it's first weekend, and then four days later Spider-Man was going to come out. This way it will have a lot more breathing room.

It still sucks though.

williamzombie
05-23-2012, 05:21 PM
I have worked in entertainment marketing for the last 5 years and I can tell you one thing. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

This has got to be one of the stupidest marketing moves ever.

This is one of the worst turns I've ever seen this brand take.

solid.wii
05-23-2012, 05:22 PM
This is perfect, gives me time to save up. 3D movie tickets are expensive nowadays.

DavAnthony
05-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Wow Paramount is now running the film franchise like Hasbro runs the toyline.

Nice to know they are both in synch with their marketing "genius".

AlleyViperEXE
05-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Probably the most retarded move in the history of anything, ever.

AlecZeal1989
05-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Well guys, at least we have Dollar General Joes to look forward to for the next 9 months...

manic mailman
05-23-2012, 05:24 PM
will it still be showed at joe con???

ps I HATE 3D
roger ebert published a whole article by a genius oscar winner cinematographer on why 3D is an abomination and a perversion of how we are supposed to receive images.

Jmacq1
05-23-2012, 05:24 PM
makes no good since 3-D is a proven fail.

Incorrect. Avatar was huge in 3D. Avengers opening weekend ticket sales were 52% 3D. Finally, theaters and studios like 3D because you can't cam-capture 3D and put it on the internet. It may not last forever, but it's with us for the time being.

Plus the BIG factor behind this is that 3D is HUGE in the international market.

that article's fact are all wrong it sites titanic a movie that flopped due to 3-D re release.

Check your math. Titanic 3D made almost 60 million in the states for a movie that basically cost a couple million to convert, and more importantly it made almost 300 million dollars overseas. Once again...3D is HUGE overseas.

also Star Wars was a huge bomb the biggest of the year so far.
it did so poorly that they have stopped any further plans to put out the rest in 3-D

Did you fact-check a single statement you've made in this post (answer: no)? Star Wars Episode I 3D did underperform, but 3D conversions only cost a couple million dollars. It made its' money back and then some. The biggest bomb of the year so far? Not even close. John Carter takes that cake (estimated $200 million loss), with Battleship close behind (Estimated $120 million loss).

Also, find me a source that says the rest of the Star Wars movies aren't coming in 3D. You'll have to look really hard, because there isn't one.

starbuck
05-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Dollar General figures just got a lot more expensive.

osiris
05-23-2012, 05:24 PM
This just angers me to no end. If they would have told us this like 6 months ago it would a lil easier to swallow but NO they tell us a month before its supposed to be released. Why Hasbro Why?!!!!

DaSmokeEater
05-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Um...is it still available for pre-order September on Blu-Ray? :)

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:25 PM
So much for Night Viper.

Maybe now the figures will be out long enough for the movie to hit, which means that we might still get that figure.

Are they still showing the movie at Joecon???

Ha. You mean the convention that had its dates change to coincide with the early release of the movie? This fallout will be epic.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:25 PM
Where do we send the hate mail? I'm serious. I know we won't change anything, but I hate the feeling that so many fans are upset (twitter and facebook are exploding), and there's no organized outlet to voice our opinion to Paramount (or Hasbro), aside from ranting to each other on the Tank.

Will someone organize a mail campaign/petition to bombard them with hate?

Cerebral Dissolution
05-23-2012, 05:25 PM
HAHAHA so stupid!!!!

Think they will recall all the toys?

Wow a cartoon without toys and now a movie without toys since they'll have been sold, or not more likely, a year before.

What morons.

Nemesis*Prime
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
Holy f***ing s***! Well this is beyond f***ed up. Oh well, Hasblow strikes again.

tycondrius
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
are ye guys sure this isn't a international release date and that the US date is un changed ? also what the chances of sue a company for this sort of disappointment ;P

Cobra Terrorist
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
What the fuck?

Crimson Rage
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
That's potentially disastrous... The buzz the trailer generated will be stone cold by then. Even if they re-edit a new one for next year, it won't matter: The momemtum will be gone.

IRON VIPER
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
I can not believe this, I mean come on they have spent so much in advertisement and promotions. I was really excited about the movie and now this........

orezona
05-23-2012, 05:26 PM
I was actually looking forward to seeing Joe: 2 this Summer.

Not sure if my excitement will last through into next Spring.

I was about to breath a sigh of relief because honestly I've already reached peak movie news fatigue here on the 'tank.

I wonder what the cast/crew think of this? I bet they are PISSED.

Counterpoint
05-23-2012, 05:27 PM
Yup, I say "PASS" now. I was excited about this movie, more excited than I have been for a very long time and now I don't give a rats ass about it. My 10 year-old says "Meh, who cares now" ... we won't buy any of the toys, we won't see the movie in March of next year ... G.I.Joe is over as far as we are concerned. Thanks for the memories. Hasbro, you have officially once again become HasBLOW.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:27 PM
Sorry folks but if this doesn't spell the death of the line---not sure what does

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:27 PM
They cancelled Renegades for nothing!

ero
05-23-2012, 05:27 PM
Wow.

There's more to it than 3D. There has to be. But wow.

Nail, meet coffin.

MonkeyBoyZ
05-23-2012, 05:28 PM
Wow Paramount is now running the film franchise like Hasbro runs the toyline.

Nice to know they are both in synch with their marketing "genius".

This is funny inside the tragedy. There is no way the film will make near the money it would have made during the summer. It is why so many "blockbuster" movies are released at that time. The hunger games did well because it was a well known franchise and I haven't heard anything but negative comments from directors using 3D. Someone at paramount is very bad at their job or really afraid the Avengers.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:28 PM
AVENGERS
HOBBIT
PROMETHEUS
BATMAN

Hey let's just remove GI JOE from what is easily one of the greatest years for film ever. HAHAHHAAH.
Ok.

HAHAHAHAHHA.
Fucking amazing.

Crimson Rage
05-23-2012, 05:28 PM
Maybe test screenings were not so good...

CobraCrimson
05-23-2012, 05:29 PM
Great, now we will never ever see this movie since the world is ending this December! :)

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:29 PM
they cancelled renegades for nothing!
^^^^^^^
this

ding ding ding we have a winner.

rfarrell22
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
This sux hard.
I am so pissed

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
I don't even know what to say
What makes them think this is a good idea?
What are they thinking? Are they even thinking??

Roshan
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
Did you fact-check a single statement you've made in this post (answer: no)?

I dunno, did you? John Carter losing 200 million? Wrong.

John Carter's Trip to Mars Finally Earns Its Budget - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/04/02/john-carters-trip-to-mars-is-finally-profitable/)

John Carter losses could be less than feared | Film | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/15/john-carter-losses)

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
Does anyone else notice the coincidence that today is the day that the club decided to skip sending convention registration updates? Maybe they knew what was coming and decided to let Paramount shoot everyone in the foot...

Cdt Weasel
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
Nah, it's just that the same people behind con registration are in charge of getting the websites running for ticket ordering.

Cobra Terrorist
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
There MUST be more to this story than just the addition of 3D. Maybe the studio got freaked out about all the other blockbusters surrounding Retaliation???

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
will it still be showed at joe con???

ps I HATE 3D
roger ebert published a whole article by a genius oscar winner cinematographer on why 3D is an abomination and a perversion of how we are supposed to receive images.

Ebert was all bothered by digital cinematography too. You can see how that turned out.

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
There MUST be more to this story than just the addition of 3D. Maybe the studio got freaked out about all the other blockbusters surrounding Retaliation???

Yeah, it's Paramount not wanting to duplicate the Battleship debacle.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
Does anyone else notice the coincidence that today is the day that the club decided to skip sending convention registration updates? Maybe they knew what was coming and decided to let Paramount shoot everyone in the foot...

Suddenly makes them look half as bad, doesn;t it?

:D

MightyMegs
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
I can't wrap my mind around all the stupid in this decision.

paulpratt
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
There MUST be more to this story than just the addition of 3D. Maybe the studio got freaked out about all the other blockbusters surrounding Retaliation???

they are not in better shape next year, but they are first, so to speak, in march. Close after though is fast and furious 6, star trek 2, iron man 3, the tom cruise oblivion thing. packed summer next year too.

Griffin73
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
John Carter was intentionally tanked so they could have an excuse to get rid of Disney Exec, Rich Ross. It was a good movie but they needed a reason to fire Ross.

Tucker
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm58/stuck6383/rat-farts.jpg

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
Man-the Ebay prices are going to SKY ROCKET for the figures!

RogueWingnut
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
So...
We lost POC.
We lost 30th Anniversary
We lost G.I. Joe Renegades

We were given drivers with terrible articulation
We were given 2 versions of SDCC Jinx
We were given 4 versions of the Rock in the first 3 releases
We were given Legitimate ARAH redux figures planned for the last possible wave.

Brothers.
Sisters.
F^cking Burn it Down.

steve_smmr
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
^^^^^^^
this

ding ding ding we have a winner.

this is actually what i'm most upset about. i know Renegades wasn't for everyone.... but with transformers prime still being on, i really wanted to see where they would take joe in Renegades.

now... we will have no movie for almost a year, no show to perpetuate the brand. this movie may die a slow death, and i don't want to watch that happen. i've been too excited for what this movie could do to watch it just fall apart like that.

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
Suddenly makes them look half as bad, doesn;t it?

:D

They decided to let someone else generate the fallout for a while. Misdirection is one of a magician's greatest abilities, right?

luigi
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
Sorry folks but if this doesn't spell the death of the line---not sure what does

this would kill the movie for sure

Crazy Legs
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
Well... i got my answer about anyone being scared for Retaliation after Battleship had a bad opening. Paramount was scared.

ero
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
AVENGERS
HOBBIT
PROMETHEUS
BATMAN

Hey let's just remove GI JOE from what is easily one of the greatest years for film ever. HAHAHHAAH.
Ok.

HAHAHAHAHHA.
Fucking amazing.

Yeah, no kidding. I was just looking at that Austin movie theater that's recreating the Summer of '82 and thinking how cool that is that this summer was also gonna be like that. It's just amazing to me.

I think someone at Paramount did not like the early screening of this thing. I'm wondering if Chu got in over his head? Also ...

Rob at Topless Robot makes a good point about this perhaps not even being up to Hasbro. He lays it at the feet of Paramount and wonders whether Hasbro is owed any kind of restitution.

starbuck
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
John Carter was intentionally tanked so they could have an excuse to get rid of Disney Exec, Rich Ross. It was a good movie but they needed a reason to fire Ross.


I hear they did the same thing with The Adventures of Pluto Nash.

Stl_Brgd_PFC_Ramar
05-23-2012, 05:33 PM
Wow....I went to one meeting at work, got back and decided to check on news here on the Tank....then BOOM!!! Wow!! I am disappointed....

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:33 PM
They decided to let someone else generate the fallout for a while. Misdirection is one of a magician's greatest abilities, right?

Hear, hear!

WildWeaselZ06
05-23-2012, 05:33 PM
Dear paramount and Hasbro. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not everything needs to be in 3D. It's official, Hasbro hates the brand and is trying to kill it, no other explanation seems adequate.

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:33 PM
Has a movie ever had two years of Superbowl commericals, back to back? The geniuses at Paramount will probably blow the extra proceeds from the 3D release on it!

What a waste of money and great momentum.

CrimsonGuard101
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
They should just release it now in 2d and then make it in 3d next year if its so gd improtant, hell geroge lucas did it with star wars.... 3d is soooo overrated and is total bullshit only 3% of the movie ever gets 3d anyway and you watch the entire movie with glasses on...pathetic...I hate 3d movies. I will go see it in 2d anyway...so whats the big deal>? There is more to this then just the 3d bullshit...it takes 20 minutes to make a 3d flick these days....

Sciencefriction
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
What I want to know is, what's going to happen to the toys? Should I be freaking out that I won't get anything from wave 2? I expect the future waves to be canned.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
What really pisses me off is that I will never see it in 3D because I CAN'T see in 3D

sweetlogo
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
The movies gonna get leaked now and bootleged up the ass. 3D sucks, the figures suck, really wanted to see the movie though. B
atman would of killed it the following weekend.

AMBER-ALERT
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
Eat a dick Hasbro shareholders .

sbartek1974
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
Think we'll get some answers from this guy?

HissTank.com - G.I. Joe - View Profile: Muggum (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/muggum.html)

Well, if he responds that is...

orezona
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
I had to take a screen shot of this:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/axisofevilskateboards/Picture1-100.png

I still can't get over how epically RETARDED this move is by Paramount/Hasbro.

ero
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
Well... i got my answer about anyone being scared for Retaliation after Battleship had a bad opening. Paramount was scared.

Was that your thread? Cuz seriously, apologies. Who saw it coming? Well, I guess you did.

Dear paramount and Hasbro. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not everything needs to be in 3D. It's official, Hasbro hates the brand and is trying to kill it, no other explanation seems adequate.

I don't think this is Hasbro.

eddy-arashikage
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
This has to be a joke!!!!

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
So has anyone found those Dollar General figures, lately?

Cause that's all we're getting for a LONG, LONG time

rglass2
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
Dang; can I take back my claim of shenanigans?

ero
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
Think we'll get some answers from this guy?

HissTank.com - G.I. Joe - View Profile: Muggum (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/muggum.html)

Well, if he responds that is...

I'm sure he's drinking.

Cobra Terrorist
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
DAMMIT! The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get.

This was the top movie I was looking forward to this year!

Xenos
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
they are not in better shape next year, but they are first, so to speak, in march. Close after though is fast and furious 6, star trek 2, iron man 3, the tom cruise oblivion thing. packed summer next year too.

March 29th is a good month before any of those movies, so they won't be any competition. If Retaliation is hurt by a movie coming out a month later, then it will have already exceeded any and all expectations.

Tracker
05-23-2012, 05:35 PM
if true it's a horrible business decision. Might be time for Hasbro to restructure it's management

Jmacq1
05-23-2012, 05:36 PM
OK, thoughts in general:

Wow...huge move, but there's two aspects to this. While I know people are automatically going to assume the worst no matter what I say, this is not necessarily an entirely bad thing, at least from a movie-perspective.

However, from a TOY perspective it could be disastrous.

FROM A MOVIE PERSPECTIVE:

PRO
1. This moves G.I. Joe: Retaliation away from a release date only four days before The Amazing Spider-Man, which is expected to be one of the more successful movies of the summer, and draws directly from the same core audience.

2. The 3D conversion will boost its' overall box office take, particularly in international markets. If anything, the fact that Paramount is willing to shell out for a 3D conversion after they've already spent as much money as they have on marketing is a sign that they actually have faith in the film and think 3D will be an "enhancement." "Geeks" hate 3D, but the general public doesn't. Generally 30-50+ percent of tickets sold are 3D tickets for most movies released in 3D. That adds up.

3. Late March is legit "blockbuster territory." The date they are moving it to is NOT a sign that the movie itself is bad (at least in the studios' mind). If the movie were a stinker (or had tested badly), they'd be dropping it in April, September, or October.

CONS

They've already spent a shitload on marketing. Though once again, Paramount shelling out even MORE money on the film despite that expenditure could be seen as a good sign for the movie. If they thought it was complete shit or it had tested horribly, they would've simply pushed the release date to September or October and called it a day.

FROM A TOY PERSPECTIVE:

PRO:
This actually gives them time to make some more movie-accurate figures. Unfortunately that's about the only "pro" I can think of.

CON:
Holy shit, retailers are going to be PISSED. I don't know if this will stop the first two waves from hitting, but I bet any wave after that gets delayed until after the movies' release. I can see Hasbro scrambling to put together a wave or two to hold the line in the interim, but this could seriously sink the Joe line at retailers. They've likely already spent (collectively) millions on a product for a movie that now won't be out for nearly a year. I can't even imagine how Hasbro is going to handle this.

Joe Con is going to be hella interesting.

Bear in mind, this is likely primarily Paramount's decision (though I'd imagine Hasbro had to be consulted). I would not be at all surprised if Paramount is going to end up paying Hasbro a considerable sum of cash to make up for the colossal amount of shit they're about to receive from retailers.

So:

As far as the movie itself is concerned: Might not be bad.

For the toy line: Potentially disastrous.

solid.wii
05-23-2012, 05:36 PM
Meh

sbartek1974
05-23-2012, 05:36 PM
So has anyone found those Dollar General figures, lately?

Cause that's all we're getting for a LONG, LONG time

Well, if that's our fallback then keep 'em coming!

ero
05-23-2012, 05:37 PM
March ain't happening. This thing is going straight-to-DVD.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:37 PM
DAMMIT! The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get.

This was the top movie I was looking forward to this year!

This was the ONLY movie I was looking fwd to this year!

Cobra Terrorist
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
Hahaha, oh man...I just thought about what Joecon's gonna be like this year (thanks to Jmaq1).

Nerdrage to the max, lol!

Sciencefriction
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
Somebody make a Hitler video about this.

jaimanstone
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
Holy shit. This is the worst fuckin' idea in the history of GI JOE.

tycondrius
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
didn't paramount originally move the Trek 2 slot and give it to giJoe2 !! why did they even bother if they were gonna pull this BS

captain mal
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
dumb, dumb, dumb...

*sigh*

They cut the 30th line short, made crappy low-budget figures with less articulation and are pricing them at $10 a pop, they made a movie based on a board game that flopped big time... and now this.

Don't know why I would be surprised.

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
Has this ever happened before? I mean with a line that was going to have so many toys associated with it?

DavAnthony
05-23-2012, 05:38 PM
repost

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:39 PM
Well... i got my answer about anyone being scared for Retaliation after Battleship had a bad opening. Paramount was scared.

To be fair, **any** movie released so closely would have fallen short of The Avengers. **Any** movie in that July window will most likely fall short of Batman. Those are just two colossal movie properties right now that have years of preparation, quality lead-in movies, and marketing legwork going into them. GI Joe had Rise of Cobra to prepare the way for this. Not exactly even footing, especially since they're more-or-less getting rid of everything about the first movie that didn't work.

bluebikerboy1
05-23-2012, 05:39 PM
the rocks got to be pissed

GI Joe Eternal
05-23-2012, 05:39 PM
Think all the bootleg releases and web leaks that will hit in the next 9 months will have an impact on the March box office take? I do.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:39 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



This is amazing.

This might be the biggest GI JOE news since Rise of Cobra was announced.
How sad is that.

Black Llama
05-23-2012, 05:39 PM
You sank my Battleship... errr Battleship sank my GI Joe... ummm. Somehow this is both witty and clever.

drunknmunky
05-23-2012, 05:40 PM
According to the front page of Hisstank, the movie releases on Blu Ray in September but releases in theaters next March...

Griffin73
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
We should get an investor group together to buy GI Joe from Hasbro and run the brand right.
Hasbro blows!

krisk
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
To be fair, **any** movie released so closely would have fallen short of The Avengers. **Any** movie in that July window will most likely fall short of Batman. Those are just two colossal movie properties right now that have years of preparation, quality lead-in movies, and marketing legwork going into them. GI Joe had Rise of Cobra to prepare the way for this. Not exactly even footing, especially since they're more-or-less getting rid of everything about the first movie that didn't work.

isnt Star Trek 2 supposed to come out in March 2013 also? I can see that taking money away from GI Joe 2: Delaying Action......

Lody
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
According to the front page of Hisstank, the movie releases on Blu Ray in September but releases in theaters next March...

Yet another first for the HissTank!

RogueWingnut
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm afraid its time this time.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/Wingnut99/Comedy%20Pics/panic-button.jpg

PEPPER.
TIME TO PUSH THE BUTTON!

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
At least we won't have to worry about any kids buying all the Retaliation figures. Without a movie, kids won't give a crap. Hasbro is going to see a huge profit loss with this move.

solid.wii
05-23-2012, 05:41 PM
According to the front page of Hisstank, the movie releases on Blu Ray in September but releases in theaters next March...

this
March ain't happening. This thing is going straight-to-DVD.

polyphenus
05-23-2012, 05:42 PM
According to the front page of Hisstank, the movie releases on Blu Ray in September but releases in theaters next March...

That story will be removed in 3...2...1...

Cobra Terrorist
05-23-2012, 05:42 PM
According to the front page of Hisstank, the movie releases on Blu Ray in September but releases in theaters next March...

Oh....well, hell. This news isn't so bad then.

I'll just buy the Blu-Ray in September!:D

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:42 PM
Somebody make a Hitler video about this.

I was thinking the same thing.

Cerebral Dissolution
05-23-2012, 05:42 PM
Ironically i just found retaliation figs in the wild for the first time today and boy they suck. Maybe this will give them a chance to do them over.

CrimsonGuard101
05-23-2012, 05:42 PM
so I wonder if online pre-orders will be cancelled now and stores will be shipping product back to Hasbro for refunds? Now ay they are going to release this product with nothing to sell it for them...

So long night Viper and New Crimson Guard...its time for a total mamagment restructure at Hasbro...

Munch
05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
What the hell is the Rock going to talk about at Summerslam now?! I thought that was the whole reason for this movie to push The Rock vs. Cena II.

Scotty97
05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
I keep re-reading the press release, looking for some loophole that says the movie is still coming out next month, but then re-released in 3D next year. That would seem the smarter move, but no, it looks like Paramount really is fvcking retarded.

Steve T
05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
Wow. This is incredible. I can't believe this.

I'm not a fan of 3D movies. It's especially bad when they convert to 3D, which is what they're doing.

It's one thing if it's shot in 3D. This is pretty weird and also pretty bad.

whitefox360
05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
I call bs on the 3d thing. The movie probably tested poorly and paramount knows it wont stand a chance against franchises on solid ground.

Black Swan
05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
So Retaliation was put on "hiatus"...can G.I. Joe Renegades come back now?!?

speedocub
05-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Ironically i just found retaliation figs in the wild for the first time today and boy they suck. Maybe this will give them a chance to do them over.


You have to give them back now.

Gyre-Viper
05-23-2012, 05:44 PM
so retaliation was put on "hiatus"...can g.i. Joe come back now?!?


fixed that for ya.

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Think all the bootleg releases and web leaks that will hit in the next 9 months will have an impact on the March box office take? I do.

I'm usually against watching leaked movies, but now I want to find a bootleg Retaliation just to give Paramount and Hasbro the finger!

Bionic Commando
05-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Wait is this for real???Do we hit the panic button on the SDCC Jinx now that there's no movie this year??I'm really confused.I never heard a movie get pulled after millions spent on advertising between the Superbowl ads,The Rock wrestling at Wrestlemania and all his tweets and the movie toys now available at Walmart are they going to pull them of the shelves too???

Jmacq1
05-23-2012, 05:45 PM
I dunno, did you? John Carter losing 200 million? Wrong.

John Carter's Trip to Mars Finally Earns Its Budget - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/04/02/john-carters-trip-to-mars-is-finally-profitable/)

John Carter losses could be less than feared | Film | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/15/john-carter-losses)

John Carter (2012) - Box Office Mojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=johncarterofmars.htm)

$250 million dollar budget. $100 million for Marketing. $350 million in production costs.

72 Million domestic. Assuming the studio ended up with roughly 60 percent of that, they got 43 million.

200 million overseas. Generally studios get about 40 percent of overseas at best. So best case scenario? They got 80 million from overseas grosses.

80 + 43 = 123M recouped directly by the studio.

350 - 123 = $227M in the red for Disney.

Math is fun!

Cerebral Dissolution
05-23-2012, 05:45 PM
I bet someone important at Hasbro walked into the office today and said, "hey I know how we can screw over the fans some more."

RogueWingnut
05-23-2012, 05:45 PM
Wait is this for real???Do we hit the panic button on the SDCC Jinx now that there's no movie this year??I'm really confused.I never heard a movie get pulled after millions spent on advertising between the Superbowl ads,The Rock wrestling at Wrestlemania and all his tweets and the movie toys now available at Walmart are they going to pull them of the shelves too???

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/Wingnut99/Comedy%20Pics/panic-button.jpg

Stl_Brgd_PFC_Ramar
05-23-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm still in disbelief......

orezona
05-23-2012, 05:45 PM
Where do you think you're going? Nobody's leaving. Nobody's walking out on this fun, old-fashioned family redemption for the crapfest that RoC was. No, no. We're all in this together. This is a full-blown, four-alarm toy collector emergency here. We're gonna press on, and we're gonna have the hap, hap, happiest Summer of joes since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny fucking Kaye. And when G.I. Joe: Retaliation squeezes its fat delayed ass into the movie theaters next Spring, its gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse.

Where's the Tylenol?

RogueWingnut
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
f^ck it
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/Wingnut99/Comedy%20Pics/sheldon_wheaton.jpg

red4
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
The official street date of the toys is 5 *FIVE* days away. If they decide to push the toys back because there won't be a movie to promote them, then I am going to KILL SOMEONE!!!!!!

CrimsonGuard101
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Amazon 4 packs just increased 400%!

bluebikerboy1
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
i wonder if this has to do with the club.
follow me for a minute......
hasbro forced them to change the con date to coinside with the movie, then the CC fall out happened, Hasbro took alot of heat.
maybe after the dust settled they decided they needed to push themselves from association due to some pending something (lawsuit) that may be coming down the line.

TU482
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
You have to give them back now.

lol!

diablosandwitch
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
i usually am not that type of guy for someone to be fired,but this and sooo much lately has be a giant cluster f*ck,is it that hard?

head should roll over this,and i hope and pray g.i.joe stays alive.because we just got a sucking chest wound my friends

DavAnthony
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
What is actually pretty ironic is that what Paramount just did to Hasbro is what Hasbro has been doing to us for years.


yeah...kind of sucks Hasbro. Enjoy your medicine.

Moses
05-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Does this have anything to do with Battleship's box office bomb?

Outside of Avatar, I have yet to see a movie with worthwhile 3D effects. I have lost a lot of my appetite for collecting Joes in the hiatus and probably will stop completely if they push back the toys. And if they don't push back the toys, they'll sit on the shelves for sure without a movie to promote them.

Even with the late release date, the movie may still make money. But they will need to spend a lot more promoting it, not to mention the extra post production to make it 3D.

Or maybe they are rewriting it so Duke lives at the end (I actually never read spoilers to find if he did or didn't, but am going with the rumor)

DaSmokeEater
05-23-2012, 05:47 PM
Sweet mother of God now a Griswold/G.I. Joe would be a Marvel Team-Up to remember!


Where do you think you're going? Nobody's leaving. Nobody's walking out on this fun, old-fashioned family redemption for the crapfest that RoC was. No, no. We're all in this together. This is a full-blown, four-alarm toy collector emergency here. We're gonna press on, and we're gonna have the hap, hap, happiest Summer of joes since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny fucking Kaye. And when G.I. Joe: Retaliation squeezes its fat delayed ass into the movie theaters next Spring, its gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse.

Where's the Tylenol?

red4
05-23-2012, 05:47 PM
We should get an investor group together to buy GI Joe from Hasbro and run the brand right.
Hasbro blows!

oh...

my...

god...

*slow clap and crying*

riot_control
05-23-2012, 05:48 PM
Avengers > GI Joe: RET

eddy-arashikage
05-23-2012, 05:48 PM
can anyone point out to me a 3D movie where the 3D was done in post production where it looked great??


this is a shocking mistake!!! A re release would be a much smarter move!!!

Still 23 pages on thsi forum alone its probably top of the twitter chart right now!!

Lets hope this is a false information/sabotage move by Firefly!! ohh please let it be that!!!!

qwe
05-23-2012, 05:48 PM
It will be sent straight to DVD.
Blame Battleship.

RogueWingnut
05-23-2012, 05:48 PM
Amazon 4 packs just increased 400%!

Amazon.com: G.I. Joe Renegades 3.75 inch Figure 4 pack: Toys & Games (http://www.amazon.com/G-I-Joe-Renegades-3-75-Figure/dp/B007COCLWM/ref=sr_1_4?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1337809668&sr=1-4)

Dogs & Cats!
Living Together!
Mass Hysteria!

Bionic Commando
05-23-2012, 05:49 PM
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/Wingnut99/Comedy%20Pics/panic-button.jpg

I can now hear the weird rush of people running to Walmarts and snagging all the Retaliation figs off the pegs before they get pulled away.I just want the SDCC Jinx looks like a small quantity this year and a high E-Bay price *sigh*