GIJOE Retaliation Delayed Until March 2013

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

For what its worth, I just got off the phone with a good buddy that is an editor (subcontractor) in Hollywood, and he said everyone is talking about this.

His words, "I dont blame them, Avengers has been swallowing every other release. Dark shadows, Dictator, and Battleships were all flops. Battleship broke records set by john carter for most money lost domestically by a +200 million dollar movie. What it really means is, they screened it, and it got absolutely shit on"

My buddy has done work on bigtime shows. Thats what he told me. We both played Joe together as kids and he went west and hit it big with a great job. If he says everyone in his industry is talking about it as a VERY bad thing, I believe him. he knows more about the film industry than anybody I know.

As soon as I seen this I called him, and he answered the phone with "YEAAaaa...can you believe retaliation?" So as far as me, I know its all true and confirmed. He also said this may be a whole new kind of loss for a movie, as everyone that WAS interested in it, is pissed, anyone who was vaguely interested will forget it.

But as he said, it didnt have much to do with the whole 3D excuse, it was the fact it got screened and did VERY poorly.

Take it for what it is. Just another post on the tank.

is his name Bob Sacamano?

No, Last name is wrong, but amazingly his name IS Robert (Bobby)

He kept stressing to me that it had nothing to do with 3D. It was that it got screened and was shit on savagely.

I 100% believe him.

[red4]

I just had a horrible thought. Imagine if Prometheus got pushed back oh god oh god oh god.... *pees a little*

[CVdelgado]

i dont watch 3d movies.

[The Delta]

Word to big bird^^.....3D movies suck balls......seriously.


thanks for the back up on this.

[red4]

No, Last name is wrong, but amazingly his name IS Robert (Bobby)

He kept stressing to me that it had nothing to do with 3D. It was that it got screened and was shit on savagely.

I 100% believe him.

It's a Seinfeld joke.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

The toys'll get here... that much is certain, but probably not until mid-February if I had to guess. So on the bright side, thats.... only 8.5 months of waiting.... again... and feeling like Par is dropping dog dirt all over us (c'mon Admin, please let us have some dispensation to use the real language on this thread!!!!) .

Is it possible the film is THAT bad? I mean, what the hell were we looking at in those trailers? They sure seemed to work for me.

I guess Paramount must have audience-tested this on their own execs or something, because there's no way this film blows harder than the first one....

Its not what I heard. I heard that is WAS screened, and it was not pretty. it has nothing to do with 3D, more of picking a time where a shitty movie may be able to make a dollar with no competition.

[starbuck]

It will all work out.

[Shin Densetsu]

Crap so Doomsday may occur before we see the Night Viper and Crimson Guard.

I was hoping this just meant the 3d release of the film would be delayed, not the entire film itself.

[Trooper618]

so paramount is gonna put G.I. JOE against STAR TREK BOTH OF THEM THEIRS WOW.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

It's a Seinfeld joke.

Oh..I dont watch that.

wierd coincedense then..lol

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Like I stated before, keep releasing the toys, they're not movie accurate anyway, who cares. I also might add, since there is no movie, 86 that motherhuggin street date for Christs sake.....

[Roshan]

thanks for the back up on this.

Unfortunately, enough people like it to put us in the minority.

[Energon Viper]

Wouldnt watch it in 3D if it was free. And it won't be

[Shin Densetsu]

so paramount is gonna put G.I. JOE against STAR TREK BOTH OF THEM THEIRS WOW.

Thing is, Star Trek may annihilate Retaliation in ticket sales, so if their dates are close in proximity, that's not good at all for GI Joe.

[Fox]

Am I going crazy I think someone deleted my post.

Someone here ain't a fan of House or was my post just delayed till next March. Good decision.

[DaveViper]

I can live with 3d its the almost year wait that sucks for me.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

Like I stated before, keep releasing the toys, they're not movie accurate anyway, who cares. I also might add, since there is no movie, 86 that motherhuggin street date for Christs sake.....

Well, then that puts Hasbro in one hell of a shitty spot.

Release SUBPAR movie toys based on characters noones knows to an audience that will not exist for 10 months?

Anyone who had the potential to profit from this movie, from the directors to the actors and to the toymaker..just got shafted.

Now whats Hasbro gunna do? SIT on all this garbage that they were hoping a movie would move? Release it with nothing to promote the garbage?

Hasbro is the BIG loser here with the toyline

[ilzuccone]

if it's not filmed in 3d it just looks like cardboard cut outs. i wonder if the shark they just jumped will be in 3d.

[Cobra Terrorist]

Am I going crazy I think someone deleted my post.

Someone here ain't a fan of House or was my post just delayed till next March. Good decision.

Maybe you're just paranoid since your infraction, lol.

....and that's all I'm gonna say about that....:D

[The Delta]

and hollywood wonders why people pirate movies.

[DR.Sin]

I don't mind 3-D, but saying they are holding off a year on the movie a month before the release date is just plain stupid. Especially with all the ads and merchandise already in circulation.

[eddy-arashikage]

this was what I sent to Paramount..

I have just read the news of your plans to pull the Gi joe Retaliation film from its intended Release date...

I wanted to congratulate you for dissapointing me and many many like me to the point of writing my first ever complaint.

I believe like many that the reason you have made this decision is based upon your lack of trust within your own product namely GI Joe retaliation. As I am sure you are aware cinema ticket prices are far from cheap and this BAD decision on your part has left me with a serious lack of trust in your company as a whole.

From this dissapointment I have learned a valuable lesson and that is to be a lot more carefull at choosing to watch your movies as of the future, afterall Battlefield was basically a load of rubbish and the last two transformer films were dissapointing too despite their box office numbers.

I think therefor that it would be easier if I avoided your products altogether and that way avoid any further dissapointment.

Yours dissapointedly Mr Eddy Tissington

[700block]

3d sucks.

[darthjones]

3d movies blow.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Aerosmith is playing "Legendary Child" on American Idol right now! LOL!

More marketing down the tubes.

[Mapleleaf]

I don't believe a studio is doing this again. Back in the early nineties there was a film for the Fantastic 4 that was shot but never released. Everything was completed and ready to go but the crew was told that it wasn't going to fly. Back then it didn't hurt as much because there was no publicity or real huge stars attached to it. But this is a travesty beyond words. You have stars like the Rock and Bruce Willis in this and this happens. Not to mention the track record for Adrianne Palicki who had Wonder Woman cancelled as well too. I just want to know who was asleep at Paramount for not including a 3d version when now a days 3d blockbusters are in. Oh yea this was also supposed to be the film that took over for Star trek 2 because it wasn't going to be ready. So now what ? I think maybe Hasbro can keep this going if they play it right and bring out perhaps characters that were given the ax or delayed and bring in something to bridge what is out and whats to come for when the movie is out. If Paramount was smart tehy would release the film with out the 3d then re-release it later with in march. Worked for star wars.

[kbfett]

YOOOOO J.....OH CRAP Batman and Spider-Man are here let's get out of here!!!!"

[red4]

If there's one thing I've learned from all this, it's that you should never put twinkies on your pizza.

[skinny]

I don't believe a studio is doing this again. Back in the early nineties there was a film for the Fantastic 4 that was shot but never released. Everything was completed and ready to go but the crew was told that it wasn't going to fly. Back then it didn't hurt as much because there was no publicity or real huge stars attached to it. But this is a travesty beyond words. You have stars like the Rock and Bruce Willis in this and this happens. Not to mention the track record for Adrianne Palicki who had Wonder Woman cancelled as well too. I just want to know who was asleep at Paramount for not including a 3d version when now a days 3d blockbusters are in. Oh yea this was also supposed to be the film that took over for Star trek 2 because it wasn't going to be ready. So now what ? I think maybe Hasbro can keep this going if they play it right and bring out perhaps characters that were given the ax or delayed and bring in something to bridge what is out and whats to come for when the movie is out.

Marvel did that with Captain America too for one reason, they weren't ready to make the film but they needed to keep the rights and license so they made a subpar film to hang onto their intellectual property until they could do it justice. However this does not sound like the case with Retaliation.

[dai-low]

What the hell is gonna happen ith the toys then? Just series one on pegs for a year?? I hope they release all the lines as scheduled with extra series to take the slack but without the movie buzz I think it's more likely the toy lines will just stagnate and less joes made in the future, this sux all around.

[Fox]

Maybe you're just paranoid since your infraction, lol.

....and that's all I'm gonna say about that....:D


News travels fast doesn't.

Hmm an almost 9 months wait. Just enough time for me to impregnate the actresses who plays Lady Jaye & Jinx and welcome our children for the premier.

[RogueReSCuE]

Death of the line

[WVMojo]

What Paramount just did to John Chu, Hasbro, and GI Joe fans everywhere

slice of the ole dick pie - YouTube (http://youtu.be/-mX1mrilqns?t=1m29s)

[Recondo]

This is the dumbest move I have ever seen a company make in regards to a movie release

[Clobbertron]

I don't believe a studio is doing this again. Back in the early nineties there was a film for the Fantastic 4 that was shot but never released. Everything was completed and ready to go but the crew was told that it wasn't going to fly. Back then it didn't hurt as much because there was no publicity or real huge stars attached to it. But this is a travesty beyond words. You have stars like the Rock and Bruce Willis in this and this happens. Not to mention the track record for Adrianne Palicki who had Wonder Woman cancelled as well too. I just want to know who was asleep at Paramount for not including a 3d version when now a days 3d blockbusters are in. Oh yea this was also supposed to be the film that took over for Star trek 2 because it wasn't going to be ready. So now what ? I think maybe Hasbro can keep this going if they play it right and bring out perhaps characters that were given the ax or delayed and bring in something to bridge what is out and whats to come for when the movie is out. If Paramount was smart tehy would release the film with out the 3d then re-release it later with in march. Worked for star wars.
I have this movie its awesomely bad. I think the FF movie was only made to exercise the rights, but I could be wrong. Im off to hunt down the wiki and the DVD!

[RogueReSCuE]

Hasbro better f**king realize what a golden egg they have with GI Joe. 30th/PoC sold really well.

They need to start looking at unreleased guys like CAPT GRID IRON, FAST DRAW, BIG BEN and so on.....
Maybe some good vehicles and updated figs not named Cobra Commander, Snake Eyes and Duke

Don't they get it? Produce "decent" stuff and we WILL empty the pegs and shelves

[supermanblue]

Go here:

http://www.paramountstudios.com/contact-us.html

Clearly its too hard to read through all of this madness in all these pages. So I hope that all of us that are pissed use this link in the way that we should.
What I don't understand is that many screenings are not always for the people who really want to see. I know I have gotten many prescreen tickets of movies I didn't want to see. Just like I have seen plenty of movies critics didn't like, that I loved and went on to make a lot of money.
Doesn't help Rocks career or the rest.
This is a shamocracy!!!

[G.I.Spawn]

I prefer not watching it in 3d. Oh well

[Steelgrave]

Being picked up in a ton of other reports now.

What a great way to tank a major summer blockbuster.


LMAO! GI Joe Retaliation a major summer BLOCKBUSTER??? As if! Most people are going to forget about this made for SYFY piece of garbage after the 1st weekend. I love GI Joe, I defended ROC & even I won't waste my money on it. Looks really, REALLY bad!

[dmizrok]

Has this EVER happened before, with a movie that has a toy line tie in? there 2 things that can happen...
1.Toys sit on shelves for 10 months with no push(sounds NUTS to me)
2.toys recalled, driving ebay prices to the moon, since some stores sold early...

[Zarana]

I prefer to watch it in 4-D, using a time machine to see it this year.

[tgbobafett]

damn just got on here today!! how ghey!! not everyone likes 3D imo!! so whats happens to the toy line that comes out monday supposedly?? heh

[Troynos]

Wow... this is pretty shocking...


Making it 3D can't be the only reason...

[whitefox360]

For what its worth, I just got off the phone with a good buddy that is an editor (subcontractor) in Hollywood, and he said everyone is talking about this.

His words, "I dont blame them, Avengers has been swallowing every other release. Dark shadows, Dictator, and Battleships were all flops. Battleship broke records set by john carter for most money lost domestically by a +200 million dollar movie. What it really means is, they screened it, and it got absolutely shit on"

My buddy has done work on bigtime shows. Thats what he told me. We both played Joe together as kids and he went west and hit it big with a great job. If he says everyone in his industry is talking about it as a VERY bad thing, I believe him. he knows more about the film industry than anybody I know.

As soon as I seen this I called him, and he answered the phone with "YEAAaaa...can you believe retaliation?" So as far as me, I know its all true and confirmed. He also said this may be a whole new kind of loss for a movie, as everyone that WAS interested in it, is pissed, anyone who was vaguely interested will forget it.

But as he said, it didnt have much to do with the whole 3D excuse, it was the fact it got screened and did VERY poorly.

Take it for what it is. Just another post on the tank.

Finally. Now theres six of us that can try to expain to the rest of the tank that the delay has more to do with retaliation screening poorly than some spontaneous need for paramount to make it 3D.

Im sure the additional ten months will come with several script rewrites and reshootings to take advantage of the added depth that comes with the new dimension...and eliminate as much suck as possible.

The 3d thing is an obvious cover to delay a movie that, chances are, is fundamentally broken, guys. Yes it sucks and im equally pissed, but lets acknowledge that odds are good the movie itself may actually suck more than the delay.

its not like paramount WANTED to do this. They need a hit franchise...

WHY CANT HOLLYWOOD GET THIS RIGHT!!??!!

[dmizrok]

...and has Chu made a statement yet?

[MetalViper]

"We watch his program. We buy his toys, we go to his movies, he owes us! Doesn't he owe us, ha? He owes the Griswalds right? F**king-A right he owes us!"

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j410/metalviper1/Album%202011/Walley-World-national-lampoons-vacation.jpg

[JoeMama]

News travels fast doesn't.

Hmm an almost 9 months wait. Just enough time for me to impregnate the actresses who plays Lady Jaye & Jinx and welcome our children for the premier.

this is how you gripe...
well played, sir.

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

I could care less if the movie is 3D or not, really I could care less about the movie at all, what concerns me is that delaying the movie's release may mean delaying a return to POC/30th quality Joes (THAT is what I care about).

[KingStalin]

I've never been more disgusted or disappointed in an announcement.
I know often people say "this could kill the line" but with Hasbro now having to rethink the next 9 months of Joe figures into a schedule that will sell and keep figures movie or not on shelves is not going to be easy.

However I blame Paramount and hope Hasbro finds away to grow out of this stupid decision.

BTW don't expect Rock or Bruce Willis back for more, I'm sure they won't like being bumped from summer.

[boomer77]

This Really Sucks

[Bushmaster72]

If this is true look at the big guns this movie will be facing this year. The Avengers, Spider-Man, Batman, Brave(yeah...may not like Disney but they put some stuff that goes crazy at the box office out), The Hobbit, etc. There is no way that G.I. Joe even comes close to these....even Brave.

Next year will be a slower year though. I believe you are looking at Iron Man 3 as the big kahuna and that may be it.

[Jmacq1]

Once again...retailers and Hasbro were already planning on having Retaliation product on their shelves for the rest of the year. I can very easily see them going ahead with that plan. We may well see a massive delay between Waves 2 and 3, though (or maybe 3 and 4). However Waves 1 and 2 have probably already shipped and I doubt Hasbro would try to tell retailers to take it all off the shelves and warehouse it for 10 months. Wal-Mart in particular despises that sort of thing (stuff sitting in their distribution centers).

[Clobbertron]

If this is true look at the big guns this movie will be facing this year. The Avengers, Spider-Man, Batman, Brave(yeah...may not like Disney but they put some stuff that goes crazy at the box office out), The Hobbit, etc. There is no way that G.I. Joe even comes close to these....even Brave.

Next year will be a slower year though. I believe you are looking at Iron Man 3 as the big kahuna and that may be it.

Zack Snyder Superman flick too!

[BigGrunt]

Paramount is spending less on this movie than Rise of cobra so they probably just hoping to break out even on money loss and it looks half.ass if you ask me. I strongly doubt its going 3d. An el camino and bruce willis in a tuxedo looks stupid. That mountain scene with snake eyes would look good in 3d. Expendables 2. is my gi joe this summer.

[WVMojo]

Paramount just released a 3D shot to calm the fanboy community and show us what we are waiting for!!!!!


http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/863248/10408321/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Jaws3shark2.png

[sgcaper]

Post production 3-D always sucks. 3-D works if it's filmed in 3-D. Otherwise I pass.

[Viper6]

i'll be the asshole, i actually enjoy em and look forward to seeing this one. sucks they are delaying the 2d experience for the rest of ya though.

[gruppenfuhrer88]

thanks for the back up on this.

No doubt, I got your back.....and just to reitterate, 3D movies suck. I don't need the overstimulation, give it to me straight........

[Bushmaster72]

Paramount just released a 3D shot to calm the fanboy community and show us what we are waiting for!!!!!


http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/863248/10408321/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Jaws3shark2.png

Hahahaha I saw that thing at the theater too. The explosion of the shark at the end towards the screen really really sucked.

[Jinx723]

3D is only good if it is filmed in 3D, like Avatar.
When you convert a regular film to 3D that's when it look like $#!+

3D is just another gimmick to charge more for tickets. We had 3D in the 50's, then again in the 80s. Oh look, another 30 years later 3D again. I wish it was just a trend, but it's here to stay which just sucks.

[Viper6]

also maybe MAYBE they will retool the toyline and it wont SUCK?

[sharky]

I was actually on the fence about spending the time and money to see this in 2D. There's no way in hell I'm spending $14.50 to see it in 3D. I guess it's like they are saying. They're doing it to sucker in more international movie-goers who must be easily wowed by that crap.

[Steel Brigade]

This delay MIGHT even beat the Club's Sub Service delay, which I'm sure they are hoping now to swoop in with to "fill the void" for hungry collectors who need a 2012 Joe fix... might work out for them well there.

[Steelgrave]

So if this is all true then I was right. I thought it looked like a giant piece of shit & wasn't even planning to watch it on DVD.

[Jmacq1]

Finally. Now theres six of us that can try to expain to the rest of the tank that the delay has more to do with retaliation screening poorly than some spontaneous need for paramount to make it 3D.

Im sure the additional ten months will come with several script rewrites and reshootings to take advantage of the added depth that comes with the new dimension...and eliminate as much suck as possible.

The 3d thing is an obvious cover to delay a movie that, chances are, is fundamentally broken, guys. Yes it sucks and im equally pissed, but lets acknowledge that odds are good the movie itself may actually suck more than the delay.

its not like paramount WANTED to do this. They need a hit franchise...

WHY CANT HOLLYWOOD GET THIS RIGHT!!??!!

Of course the thing that many here can't conceive of is this: The movie may have been, from OUR perspective, a fantastic G.I. Joe movie.

But the movie screens to regular folks...not Joe fans. If they made the movie too "fan-friendly" the general public may think it sucks because they don't "get" the bits that would make it super-cool to us. Or as half-jokingly suggested earlier: Get enough women in the audience and Channing Tatum getting killed in the first 10 minutes suddenly becomes verboten. Now you might have to rewrite very significant segments of the movie to re-include him.

Get what I'm saying? Put bluntly, we may well be getting rewrites that the "general public" thinks are awesome, but that to us just makes it more like RoC or Transformers or whatever generic action blockbuster you want to name.

[WVMojo]

I prefer to watch it in 4-D, using a time machine to see it this year.

Smell-o-vision?

I'm getting the odor of shit...a big pile of shit.

[Cksport]

The 3D line is a bullshit excuse. They pushed it back to try to make more money on this movie when nothing notable will be released next year.

[Troynos]

I don't see this affecting the toys that much.

Hasbro already has the later waves in production. Retailers already have some ordered.

I see what we've seen for Retaliation still coming out, along with whatever Hasbro had in store for post-Retaliation.

It may not come out in large numbers, it could be PoC/Renegades release levels, but it will still come out.

[zartan2010]

Nope it true even the official website says this is the case. I think the truth is that paramount has no faith in the film so there trying to make it as profitable as possible.

[1982]

And there came a day when Earth's most pissed off Joe fans found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born--to fight the foes no single Joe fan could withstand! Stan Lee presents: THE MIGHTY PISSED OFF AVENGERS!

[THE RED SHADOWS]

if it means getting Duke back, then I am fine with it.

[Steelgrave]

Of course the thing that many here can't conceive of is this: The movie may have been, from OUR perspective, a fantastic G.I. Joe movie.

But the movie screens to regular folks...not Joe fans. If they made the movie too "fan-friendly" the general public may think it sucks because they don't "get" the bits that would make it super-cool to us. Or as half-jokingly suggested earlier: Get enough women in the audience and Channing Tatum getting killed in the first 10 minutes suddenly becomes verboten. Now you might have to rewrite very significant segments of the movie to re-include him.

Get what I'm saying? Put bluntly, we may well be getting rewrites that the "general public" thinks are awesome, but that to us just makes it more like RoC or Transformers or whatever generic action blockbuster you want to name.

Remember ROC? Didn't that get delayed or it screened poorly or something similar? I remember something happened with it before release & then everybody hated it. This movie looks a million times WORSE than ROC.

[Jmacq1]

Well, we might get a hell of a "Director's Cut" some day.

[Big IV]

I think everyone might be jumping the gun here.

Seeing this in 3-D may actually be totally worth the wait.

I'm not a fan of 3-D. So, my vote is that no I don't need 3-D. My mind can create depth by itself. I don't need technology to do it for me.

[Shin Densetsu]

If this is true look at the big guns this movie will be facing this year. The Avengers, Spider-Man, Batman, Brave(yeah...may not like Disney but they put some stuff that goes crazy at the box office out), The Hobbit, etc. There is no way that G.I. Joe even comes close to these....even Brave.

Next year will be a slower year though. I believe you are looking at Iron Man 3 as the big kahuna and that may be it.

However it faces off a freaking gigantic rail cannon in the form of Star Trek 2.

I think Retaliation had a shot at being better than Spiderman.

However with a lot of people pissed now, will anyone still be excited for GI Joe Retaliation come next March?

[WVMojo]

And there came a day when Earth's most pissed off Joe fans found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born--to fight the foes no single Joe fan could withstand! Stan Lee presents: THE MIGHTY PISSED OFF AVENGERS!

Marvel just issued a take down notice for you blatantly ripping off their IP.

[M_renegade]

They're doing it to sucker in more international movie-goers who must be easily wowed by that crap.

Well, thanks.

Avengers in 3D blowed here. Nobody likes it.


.

[Jmacq1]

Remember ROC? Didn't that get delayed or it screened poorly or something similar? I remember something happened with it before release & then everybody hated it. This movie looks a million times WORSE than ROC.

You're VERY much in the minority there. It was virtually universal among the fandom here that this at least looked better than RoC even if to some it didn't look great.

The trailers actually generated some positive buzz for the film too. The more I see, the more I think it's the Channing Tatum thing that's being changed. That would likely require a lot of reshoots and rewriting to work him back into the movie in some meaningful way.

[swafus]

For what its worth, I just got off the phone with a good buddy that is an editor (subcontractor) in Hollywood, and he said everyone is talking about this.

His words, "I dont blame them, Avengers has been swallowing every other release. Dark shadows, Dictator, and Battleships were all flops. Battleship broke records set by john carter for most money lost domestically by a +200 million dollar movie. What it really means is, they screened it, and it got absolutely shit on"

My buddy has done work on bigtime shows. Thats what he told me. We both played Joe together as kids and he went west and hit it big with a great job. If he says everyone in his industry is talking about it as a VERY bad thing, I believe him. he knows more about the film industry than anybody I know.

As soon as I seen this I called him, and he answered the phone with "YEAAaaa...can you believe retaliation?" So as far as me, I know its all true and confirmed. He also said this may be a whole new kind of loss for a movie, as everyone that WAS interested in it, is pissed, anyone who was vaguely interested will forget it.

But as he said, it didnt have much to do with the whole 3D excuse, it was the fact it got screened and did VERY poorly.

Take it for what it is. Just another post on the tank.

I'm more inclined to believe this than the whole 3D conversion nonsense. There is no way in hell they would risk losing mid summer movie dollars for overseas 3D money this far into the race. My guess is that with Battleship falling flat on its face it has poisoned the waters for another military blockbuster. The studios assholes are tightly puckered that's for sure.

[Troynos]

Of course the thing that many here can't conceive of is this: The movie may have been, from OUR perspective, a fantastic G.I. Joe movie.

But the movie screens to regular folks...not Joe fans. If they made the movie too "fan-friendly" the general public may think it sucks because they don't "get" the bits that would make it super-cool to us. Or as half-jokingly suggested earlier: Get enough women in the audience and Channing Tatum getting killed in the first 10 minutes suddenly becomes verboten. Now you might have to rewrite very significant segments of the movie to re-include him.

Get what I'm saying? Put bluntly, we may well be getting rewrites that the "general public" thinks are awesome, but that to us just makes it more like RoC or Transformers or whatever generic action blockbuster you want to name.

I agree with this. And that's what I think might be happening.

Movies are made for the general public, not us.


We don't like it, but Tatum is a marketable star.

I could see test screenings ending with "why was Tatum killed?"

[sharky]

I prefer to watch it in 4-D, using a time machine to see it this year.
Watch the technology advance too much each year, and they keep delaying it till kingdom come in order to take advantage of the latest and greatest and woo more international movie-goers (who, by the way, must be easily wowed by such crap).

[THE RED SHADOWS]

oh yeah, that and why was Duke killed

[mattymatt]

Wow what a kick in the mommy Daddy button.I blame Mr chu we shouldn't have trusted the guy who directed the beiber movie in fact i bet hes not even a joe fan ask him to name 10 joes that are not ninjas.
The only way this will even work is if they really really step up the cobra special forces page maybe make like ten min webisodes.
Have any 3-d movies done well? Are they going to release it in none 3d format as well

But there is light at the end of the tunnel hope maybe they reshot some scenes, did some rewrites and make it a better film,

Also can we find out from hasbro if maybe now some of the unreleased poc toys will be released or if the DG joes will make it other stores

[Vangto]

nope.3-d movies suck.

yep, agreed

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Got to love us JOE fans, what a passionate bunch we are. Something to be proud of.......

[Fox]

I wonder how much will it cost retaliers and Hasbro to keep all those toys in storage? They still take up physical space.

[sharky]

Well, thanks.

Avengers in 3D blowed here. Nobody likes it.


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Don't take it personally. There are plenty of movie-goers here that are also easily wowed by that crap. It's just that the US is one country vs. all the other countries put together which means there's more international movie-goers that are easily wowed by that crap.

[Jmacq1]

The big "screening change" for RoC was Cobra Commander and Destro getting captured at the end instead of escaping.

May well be something similar happening here in that regard, too. Once again, the general public doesn't know that either the Commander or Destro is "always supposed to get away."

[GeneralxRon]

Let the piracy begin with this movie..

[DrKain]

I highly doubt this is possible. I mean, really, a 3D version? The movie was not filmed in 3D. There is no way they would delay it.

[xhavoc86]

dude....wtf. lame lol

[Steelgrave]

You're VERY much in the minority there. It was virtually universal among the fandom here that this at least looked better than RoC even if to some it didn't look great.

The trailers actually generated some positive buzz for the film too. The more I see, the more I think it's the Channing Tatum thing that's being changed. That would likely require a lot of reshoots and rewriting to work him back into the movie in some meaningful way.

You missed my point as usual. Something bad happened with ROC's release & then when it finally did get released it was universally hated. So it looks like history may be repeating itself here.

And if a GI Joe fan like myself thinks Retaliation looks like horses ass & won't even watch it when it comes out on DVD, what do you think the general public will think of it?

John Carter & Battleship are 2 totally AWESOME movies & they bombed big time. GI Joe Retaliation looks like a made for TV or direct to DVD movie. Just do the math! You love to argue with me & give me shit (Mass Effect 3) but this time you might just need to accept the fact that I was right & I know what the hell I'm talking about. Retaliation DOES NOT look like a good movie.

Also Bruce Willis looks EXACTLY THE SAME in Retaliation & Expendables 2. WTF is THAT about?

[Galaxus]

I wonder how much will it cost retaliers and Hasbro to keep all those toys in storage? They still take up physical space.

They wont sit on stock, the figures will be released, heck tru got a memo from hasbro saying to put all the figures out.

[sharky]

Of course the thing that many here can't conceive of is this: The movie may have been, from OUR perspective, a fantastic G.I. Joe movie.

But the movie screens to regular folks...not Joe fans. If they made the movie too "fan-friendly" the general public may think it sucks because they don't "get" the bits that would make it super-cool to us. Or as half-jokingly suggested earlier: Get enough women in the audience and Channing Tatum getting killed in the first 10 minutes suddenly becomes verboten. Now you might have to rewrite very significant segments of the movie to re-include him.

Get what I'm saying? Put bluntly, we may well be getting rewrites that the "general public" thinks are awesome, but that to us just makes it more like RoC or Transformers or whatever generic action blockbuster you want to name.
Can't they just put Duke in a coma and say he's wounded. Then as the credits roll in the end they can have a voice-over say "Duke's gonna be just fine"

[Dunedain]

if it means getting Duke back, then I am fine with it.

You sellout!!!!!! LOL

[DrKain]

is the gi joe club working on post-production for the movie?

lmmfao

[DrKain]

John Carter & Battleship are 2 totally AWESOME movies & they bombed big time.

You mean awesome as in terrible, right? Because those movies are awesomely terrible and not even worth the film they were shot on. Wait, they aren't even awesomely bad, they are just down right garbage.

[gruppenfuhrer88]

Let the piracy begin with this movie..

No doubt, I'll Pirate the shit out of this movie.....I already made plans for all of March 2013, if I'm still alive of course, and won't be watching it. I'll get the cool non-stoopid 3D version ahead of time and watch that instead. Thank you Internetz!!!!!

[Jmacq1]

You missed my point as usual. Something bad happened with ROC's release & then when it finally did get released it was universally hated. So it looks like history may be repeating itself here.

False, it was not universally hated.

And if a GI Joe fan like myself thinks Retaliation looks like horses ass & won't even watch it when it comes out on DVD, what do you think the general public will think of it?

You prove here on a daily basis that your tastes are very much NOT in step with the majority of G.I. Joe fans, so sorry, you don't get to claim you represent anyone other than yourself.

John Carter & Battleship are 2 totally AWESOME movies & they bombed big time. GI Joe Retaliation looks like a made for TV or direct to DVD movie. Just do the math! You love to argue with me & give me shit (Mass Effect 3) but this time you might just need to accept the fact that I was right & I know what the hell I'm talking about.

John Carter was decent. Battleship I haven't seen to comment on but the general concensus (IE what MOST people think) is that it's shit. Once again, YOUR tastes are not indicative of the general public OR Joe fans in general.

You're entitled to your opinions, but don't even pretend to act like they're indicative of the majority. And I've never known you to know what you're talking about, so I'm not likely to change my mind on that now.

Incidentally, why are you still here? Didn't you quit collecting a dozen or so times last year?

[joe fanatic]

We all know Hasbro is gonna release the figures to keep the movie buzz going. My friend that is manager at a Toys r us just told me they were told to out their stock out today. He also said they will go on sale this Sunday (think he said buy one get one 50% off).

[eddy-arashikage]

The 10 minute preview that some people got to see via Paramount went down really well by all accounts I don't think it was due to the screeners this got scrubbed I think its down to the competition in the cinema myself, makes a lot more sense!

The amount of hype and good feeling leading up to this film, it still would have done even better, I think this is a gamble by Paramount to try and make even more money off a film being released against weaker opposition!

Time will tell.... when the bootleg hits the net somebody please PM me.. Ta

[Troynos]

However with a lot of people pissed now, will anyone still be excited for GI Joe Retaliation come next March?

Of course they will.

Come March all the pissed off-ness will have evaporated, people will be excited that it's finally here.

And of course, the general public, the ones who will carry (or sink) the movie, won't care that it was delayed.

[Don]

...The more I see, the more I think it's the Channing Tatum thing that's being changed. That would likely require a lot of reshoots and rewriting to work him back into the movie in some meaningful way.

Man, if that's true I'm going to have a tee shirt made (sometime between now and March), with a GI Joe logo that says 'R.I.P. Duke', or maybe just 'fuck Channing Tatum'.

[Jmacq1]

Can't they just put Duke in a coma and say he's wounded. Then as the credits roll in the end they can have a voice-over say "Duke's gonna be just fine"

At the very least they'd need to shoot a scene of RoadRock and the others carting his comatose body to safety from the middle of the desert (which potentially causes a serious plot hole if they were originally "walking out" since well...is a guy badly injured enough to be in a coma likely to survive getting carried/dragged through the desert for God knows how long?), and a scene of him waking up later.

I know IMDB is unreliable, but in the comments section for this film, folks that have supposedly seen screenings said most of the questions on the "after movie questionnaire" centered on what happened with Duke in the film....

[Shin Densetsu]

I highly doubt this is possible. I mean, really, a 3D version? The movie was not filmed in 3D. There is no way they would delay it.

It's called post-conversion.

I worry since this film was not filmed in 3D. Some movies are phenomenal in 3D, I thought Transformers DOTM was amazing in 3D and more fun to experience than 2D(saw both). DOTM was shot in 3D however.

With Cap it was good, Avengers I thought it was just okay with.

You missed my point as usual. Something bad happened with ROC's release & then when it finally did get released it was universally hated. So it looks like history may be repeating itself here.

And if a GI Joe fan like myself thinks Retaliation looks like horses ass & won't even watch it when it comes out on DVD, what do you think the general public will think of it?

John Carter & Battleship are 2 totally AWESOME movies & they bombed big time. GI Joe Retaliation looks like a made for TV or direct to DVD movie. Just do the math! You love to argue with me & give me shit (Mass Effect 3) but this time you might just need to accept the fact that I was right & I know what the hell I'm talking about. Retaliation DOES NOT look like a good movie.

Also Bruce Willis looks EXACTLY THE SAME in Retaliation & Expendables 2. WTF is THAT about?

You are trying to prove that your opinion, which is subjective, is the truth, but there is a difference between fact and opinion. If you can't agree with someone I think you should just agree to disagree. They're not going to believe you any more than you are going to believe them so what's the point in arguing?

[eddy-arashikage]

We all know Hasbro is gonna release the figures to keep the movie buzz going. My friend that is manager at a Toys r us just told me they were told to out their stock out today. He also said they will go on sale this Sunday (think he said buy one get one 50% off).



LOl as if!! 3 days before release and they are going to go on offer? Doesn't sound right at all!!

Hang about! Nor has anything that has come before on GI Joe relagation!

[musashi3000gt]

Whether 3D movies suck or not is not the issue here.

Having a release date set and advertised, toy line on the shelves and to set it back another year with only 5 weeks to go? That is a slap in the face to anyone who likes GI Joe!

Also they had no problem admitting that this is just so they can make more money. They didnt even try to be discrete about it. They flat out will make all the fans who have kept this brand alive for 30 years wait till next year just so they can buck harder.

Lastly 3D will not make your movie better! If the movie is shit its gonna be shit, period.

[agent888]

let the piracy begin with this movie..

hear hear!

[eddy-arashikage]

It's called post-conversion.

I worry since this film was not filmed in 3D. Some movies are phenomenal in 3D, I thought Transformers DOTM was amazing in 3D and more fun to experience than 2D(saw both). DOTM was shot in 3D however.

With Cap it was good, Avengers I thought it was just okay with.



You are trying to prove that your opinion, which is subjective, is the truth, but there is a difference between fact and opinion. If you can't agree with someone I think you should just agree to disagree. They're not going to believe you any more than you are going to believe them so what's the point in arguing?



All of ^THIS^

[CobraCoffee]

Wait a minute!!! There's another GI Joe movie coming out!?!?

[Steelgrave]

You are trying to prove that your opinion, which is subjective, is the truth, but there is a difference between fact and opinion. If you can't agree with someone I think you should just agree to disagree. They're not going to believe you any more than you are going to believe them so what's the point in arguing?

NO! I'm just saying that I MIGHT BE RIGHT! Everybody on this site loves to try to make me look as stupid as possible every time I post. They hate me & try to twist my words & make me look like an idiot constantly. But I MIGHT BE RIGHT this time!

[sithlordsmart]

For a community that (IMO) hated the movie related figs, why give two monkey turds if they are pulling or selling the figs on time??

[Jmacq1]

For a community that (IMO) hated the movie related figs, why give two monkey turds if they are pulling or selling the figs on time??

Most of us thought that several of the movie figures looked just fine. Yeah, the vehicle drivers suck, and the reduced articulation on a handful of figures is less-than-ideal, but the line was far from a total loss.

Plus, you have to get through the first couple waves until you get to the waves that have Alley-Viper, Crimson Guard, and Night Viper in them.

[Steelgrave]

For a community that (IMO) hated the movie related figs, why give two monkey turds if they are pulling or selling the figs on time??

Because they're completely full of shit! They complain about the figures & the prices but the second they see new product on the pegs they snatch it up like a starving person going after a piece of bread.

[Don]

NO! I'm just saying that I MIGHT BE RIGHT! Everybody on this site loves to try to make me look as stupid as possible every time I post. They hate me & try to twist my words & make me look like an idiot constantly. But I MIGHT BE RIGHT this time!

Dude, when you say things like 'everybody on this site' and 'every time I post' you do sound like an idiot. And paranoid.

But then again, if a noob like me is talking trash maybe it really is everyone.

[sharky]

Having a release date set and advertised, toy line on the shelves and to set it back another year with only 5 weeks to go? That is a slap in the face to anyone who likes GI Joe!
So, haven't been collecting much GI Joe, huh? What else is new. :D

Also they had no problem admitting that this is just so they can make more money. They didnt even try to be discrete about it. They flat out will make all the fans who have kept this brand alive for 30 years wait till next year just so they can buck harder.'
I think it's more about trying to make sure they make a decent profit as opposed to breaking even, perhaps.

[Shin Densetsu]

For a community that (IMO) hated the movie related figs, why give two monkey turds if they are pulling or selling the figs on time??

Most of them aren't must haves but a few are excellent plus with nothing to hunt for int he past few months, having something new to search for can be exciting.

[drunknmunky]

NO! I'm just saying that I MIGHT BE RIGHT! Everybody on this site loves to try to make me look as stupid as possible every time I post. They hate me & try to twist my words & make me look like an idiot constantly. But I MIGHT BE RIGHT this time!

Here you go Steelgrave. Read this thread. I predicted this back in December and got my ass reamed for it. Funny how things work out
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-live-action-movie/181706-sorry-disappoint-you.html

[eddy-arashikage]

For a community that (IMO) hated the movie related figs, why give two monkey turds if they are pulling or selling the figs on time??

My son wanted a lot from the retaliation line So I guess its gonna be something else!!

He likes spring loaded missiles and ninjas and what kid doesn't love a parachute figure?

All the bitching may have 'seemed' to outweigh the people who liked a lot of what was coming but plenty of us have been looking forward to the new toys coming out!!

especially late comers to the Brand, The movie was building bridges with people who got burnt by the first movie. Well we can kiss that progress goodbye now... Cause whats the first thing people will assume? First film was crap second film has been delayed why? hmmm

[joe fanatic]

Just before the news about a delay there is a post about the DVD/blu ray release being September 18 this year! What the hell! I think this is part of Cobra's plan!

[sharky]

Dude, when you say things like 'everybody on this site' and 'every time I post' you do sound like an idiot. And paranoid.

But then again, if a noob like me is talking trash maybe it really is everyone.
Right on, Don!


That's it. I've waited quite a long time to do that.

[red4]

I wonder what Obama has to say about this.

[JoeAddict]

Yea tacked on 3D just what we all wanted. Nice job dumbass! Yea the suits always know what the fans want!! Moron!!

[Rainbow Viper]

Come March all the pissed off-ness will have evaporated, people will be excited that it's finally here.

And of course, the general public, the ones who will carry (or sink) the movie, won't care that it was delayed.

I'm more concerned than anything. I just don't buy that the 3D thing was the major reason the movie was pushed back. If they are redoing it cuz it did not test well with audiences, then that bothers me too because of all of the promises they made in it being so good. I'm just hoping they decided to make changes that will make it an even more fantastic joe movie and not just the 3D upgrade.

[Clobbertron]

Can A Mod change the blue button at the beginning of this thread from Discuss to Disgusted? Thanks.

[eddy-arashikage]

Most of them aren't must haves but a few are excellent plus with nothing to hunt for int he past few months, having something new to search for can be exciting.

This would have been for me the first wave that I would have been collecting that was current Imagine going to a specialty toy store where they have a whole new wave of figures that I have never had before, a pleasure I havent had since a child as far as GI Joe is concerned, I guess the one good thing that comes out of this is it gives me time to finish my wants list!

[diablosandwitch]

this franchise has lacked vision and leadership for years,and hollywood could care a less about anything but $$$$,we get people who "love" gi joe,but in the end we just get hacks who use "been there,done that" fx and boring heartless stories,from r.o.c to this mess,to the ateam...oops i mean renegades,its a sad to say that warren elles,someone with out any idea what this franchise is about,deliver the 1 peice that was what gi joe should be,and im sure if u asked him about resolute,he look at you like you were crazy,because he probably doest remember or care

sad day from me,ive been with them for all of these 30 years

[sithlordsmart]

My son wanted a lot from the retaliation line So I guess its gonna be something else!!

He likes spring loaded missiles and ninjas and what kid doesn't love a parachute figure?

All the bitching may have 'seemed' to outweigh the people who liked a lot of what was coming but plenty of us have been looking forward to the new toys coming out!!

especially late comers to the Brand, The movie was building bridges with people who got burnt by the first movie. Well we can kiss that progress goodbye now... Cause whats the first thing people will assume? First film was crap second film has been delayed why? hmmm

True I was only looking for certain figs for friends in Germany, my son wanted a few things but in the end it's only plastic. Thankfully my sone love the vintage stuff!! All hail O-Ring!!!!!!!!!

[Dr. Vile]

As I recall, RoC was filmed during the writers strike, thats why the car chase scene was extended. Paramount and Hasbro can ill afford another Klandathu! Hasbro is obviously not making the money they used too,( just look at the Avengers line, they would have made 5 waves for this five years ago). Paramount just took a huge hit with Battleship, so it's very likely they are holding back for fear of filling bankruptcy.

[Galaxus]

What does anyone think of the dvd/bluray release and the movie pushback? they had to know about both yet decide to release both news stories at the same time? does this not stike anyone as odd?

[red4]

As I recall, RoC was filmed during the writers strike, thats why the car chase scene was extended. Paramount and Hasbro can ill afford another Klandathu! Hasbro is obviously not making the money they used too,( just look at the Avengers line, they would have made 5 waves for this five years ago). Paramount just took a huge hit with Battleship, so it's very likely they are holding back for fear of filling bankruptcy.

That's Klendathu, with an "e".

[sithlordsmart]

As I recall, RoC was filmed during the writers strike, thats why the car chase scene was extended. Paramount and Hasbro can ill afford another Klandathu! Hasbro is obviously not making the money they used too,( just look at the Avengers line, they would have made 5 waves for this five years ago). Paramount just took a huge hit with Battleship, so it's very likely they are holding back for fear of filling bankruptcy.

Did you just quote Starship Troopers on this thread????? HOW DARE YOU!!!!! lol

[Colt Blue]

My wife was joking that we will now get the toys in 2D and have to wear the glasses to see them in 3D. lol

[Derek]

Thanks, this is what happens when you focus on ninjas in GI Joe.

[eddy-arashikage]

I do buy a lot of vintage vehicles for the kid it just leaves me with a tight deadline to start shopping on ebay, its flip a coin time! I guess I can wait till the 28th of this month if they do get released then panic over!

If they dont its vintage vehicle mayhem abound and for me its time to stump up for pink zarana and a couple of shock troopers, the ninjas will have to wait!!

I managed to win a black CC for my son on an auction at viperskingdom and also dorkside is selling retaliation toys at a reasonable price too so all is not totally lost!!

[red4]

My wife was joking that we will now get the toys in 2D and have to wear the glasses to see them in 3D. lol

can I marry her too?

[sharky]

As I recall, RoC was filmed during the writers strike, thats why the car chase scene was extended. Paramount and Hasbro can ill afford another Klandathu! Hasbro is obviously not making the money they used too,( just look at the Avengers line, they would have made 5 waves for this five years ago). Paramount just took a huge hit with Battleship, so it's very likely they are holding back for fear of filling bankruptcy.
We need to send Paramount a ton of e-mails with a sound clip of a clucking chicken.

[dorian247]

I wonder if my local theatre will let me have the GI Joe display since its got June 28th plastered all over it? That would be a great addition to my collection.

[Colt Blue]

can I marry her too?

Um no, lol. :D

[CrocPotMaster]

That van they drove in the RoC chase scene looked like a book-mobile, according to my mom. She was also quite disappointed in Dennis Quaid.

[RogueReSCuE]

NO! I'm just saying that I MIGHT BE RIGHT! Everybody on this site loves to try to make me look as stupid as possible every time I post. They hate me & try to twist my words & make me look like an idiot constantly. But I MIGHT BE RIGHT this time!

When facing a confrontation it's best to avoid generalizations and assumptions.


GUESS WHAT?
We are all pissed
We all are going to watch GI Joe 2 (most of us in theaters)

[Goudos]

With "Avengers" ruling the box-office, "Dark Knight Rises" and "Amazing Spider-Man" still on the horizon and others coming Paramount was a heap of dumbass ever adding "Retaliation" to the line up. The 3D conversion is an excuse to get GI Joe out of that block and put where it stands a chance. I think Hasbro may have been looking at a later date to start with, but Paramount needed a tent-pole picture and forced GI Joe in to do that job. That is why the figures look iffy for the film to start with. Now, Hasbro, and to be clear, I do not think this is their move, but Paramount's, needs to get some GI Joe products on those shelves to keep the hardcore fans happy until the film comes.

[Shogi]

NOOOOOOOO !!!! no john mcclane customs !!!

That's why you collect Minimates, you can already make John McClane :D

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/Shogi88/Customs/JohnMcClaneMinimate.jpg

[sithlordsmart]

That van they drove in the RoC chase scene looked like a book-mobile, according to my mom. She was also quite disappointed in Dennis Quaid.

same van was used in the Chicken rapist episode of South Park

[dbritt]

My best friend worked at Paramount for several years, and still has a bunch of friends there. I texted him, he called a contact, and his contact confirmed the movie was a crapfest. He said he read the script and it is a huge mess. The 3D angle is cover for a very bad product. That's very disappointing.

[sbartek1974]

I wonder if my local theatre will let me have the GI Joe display since its got June 28th plastered all over it? That would be a great addition to my collection.

Hey! That's a great idea! I saw the poster hanging at my local movie theatre so I'm gonna try it.

[eddy-arashikage]

I just can't believe that after watching the awesome trailers that they released for this movie that its got anything to do with the film as it stands right now, Its opinion only but im convinced its a timing issue with paramount and not a quality issue, I sure hope more info becomes available soon to sooth a lot of broken hearts!

[sithlordsmart]

When facing a confrontation it's best to avoid generalizations and assumptions.


GUESS WHAT?
We are all pissed
We all are going to watch GI Joe 2 (most of us in theaters)

^^^^^ Quote of the day^^^^^^^^^^^

[HueyCobra AH-1]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.......

[Shin Densetsu]

I hope Hasbro takes advantage of this delay and implements double jointed knees and ankle joints to the figures that weren't initially going to have them.

Back in 2002 wave 2 of gvc was delayed so that they could add o rings to a few of the figures that were initially sculpted with t crotches, with new torsos, waists and legs.

I have Zartan, 2 Rock figures and the Cobra Trooper. Didn't think lack of articlation would bother me much but it did.

[CG23]

3D movies that are filmed in 3D come out pretty good i.e. Avatar. Movies filmed in 2D and converted to 3D are not as good...

[eddy-arashikage]

My best friend worked at Paramount for several years, and still has a bunch of friends there. I texted him, he called a contact, and his contact confirmed the movie was a crapfest. He said he read the script and it is a huge mess. The 3D angle is cover for a very bad product. That's very disappointing.

You have friends in the know and yet you have never even asked this question before now? hmm I smell something that has peanuts in it and it isn't a snickers although colour is similar!

[DrKain]

You have friends in the know and yet you have never even asked this question before now? hmm I smell something that has peanuts in it and it isn't a snickers although colour is similar!

I have a friend who works for Hasbro, do I go spouting it? No.

[CG23]

My best friend worked at Paramount for several years, and still has a bunch of friends there. I texted him, he called a contact, and his contact confirmed the movie was a crapfest. He said he read the script and it is a huge mess. The 3D angle is cover for a very bad product. That's very disappointing.

Wow

[dbritt]

To be honest, he hasn't worked there in a few years, and it never occurred to me something like this would happen. I saw the trailers, was excited, and didn't think much past that. Chu sounded like a real Joe homer. I don't have any way to prove what I'm saying, but trust me, I don't have reason to lie either. You can see I don't post a whole bunch. It's certainly not for attention.

[CrocPotMaster]

You have friends in the know and yet you have never even asked this question before now? hmm I smell something that has peanuts in it and it isn't a snickers although colour is similar!

Yeah! To quote Confucious, "Somethin' in the milk ain't clean!" Everyone I know who has seen the movie said that it was much better than the first, if you're a fan it's an 8.5/9 out of 10, and if not, it's a decent action movie that would be more around 6.5/7 out of 10.

Also, I don't honestly not believe you, but opinions are like a-holes, ya know? Judge for ourselves.. NEXT YEAR. Ugh.

[eddy-arashikage]

I have a friend who works for Hasbro, do I go spouting it? No.



And yet our friend on here got his friends to confirm that the script for Retaliation is a pile of crap... sure

[Shin Densetsu]

In Depriest I trust! Work your magic on these toys man!

As for the movie I'm still disappointed.

[FreddyTV]

The Rock just confirmed the news on his Twitter.

[Raysohood]

You're VERY much in the minority there. It was virtually universal among the fandom here that this at least looked better than RoC even if to some it didn't look great.

The trailers actually generated some positive buzz for the film too. The more I see, the more I think it's the Channing Tatum thing that's being changed. That would likely require a lot of reshoots and rewriting to work him back into the movie in some meaningful way.

That and they also have to fit tatum schedule. the dude has like 4 or 5 movies line up. Unless its been already been discuss with him

[OG13]

Hasbro is doing everything they can to make every one hate GI Joe and kill this brand

[Nightrain]

1125 posts about this. lol.

[Troynos]

You have friends in the know and yet you have never even asked this question before now? hmm I smell something that has peanuts in it and it isn't a snickers although colour is similar!

Why would he ask it?

[mutantx]

I call BS about the script sucking or the movie sucking being the reason this film is being delayed.
Did Transformers Revenge of the Fallen get delayed? No, and that movie sucked.
Lots of movies sucked and didn't get delayed because of it.
The real reason why this movie is being delayed is most likely for money reasons- Paramount found out that they'd get more money if they delayed it.

[Colt Blue]

It sucks, was really pumped for this next month but not much to do now but wait and see what comes of it. So, wonder what this will mean for the movie figures and the Dollar General figures.

[thairestauranteur]

Battleship has done this.

I would expect (given this is not some kind of late April Fools prank) that Hasblo will go in and reshoot some scenes.

The only reason to delay a picture after so much marketing dollars have been sunk into the project is because Hasblo knows they will not recover the money.

Makes me suspect the film does not have a good story again.

Keep in mind, Battlship sank. Lots of Michael Bayish CGI special defects but no substance. Liam Neeson was waiting at the beginning and end of the picture to collect his paycheck.

Makes me worried Joe 2: Retardation was just another Brian Goldner brainchild that lavishes the picture with computerized toolery and leave little in the substance department.

Pushing the release date a whole NINE MONTHS later, I see them wanting to corner a date that has little competition scheduled in order to maximize profits.

I wouldn't doubt it if they still release Joe 2 Retardation overseas. South Korea especially so we should be able to pick up an ebay DVD of it in a few months.

All I can hope for now is that Dark Knight Rises will be pushed up for the July 4th weekend. After all, I knew from the beginning that Joe 2 Retardation was not a worthy July 4th blockbuster. Dark Knight Rises is a July 4th blockbuster. Here's to hoping they do as I prognosticate.

[starbuck]

The rock just confirmed via Twitter that he thinks the new pics of Lady Jaye in Maxim are pretty hot.

[Don]

When heard that they brought in Rock and Bruce, and then when I first saw how good the trailer looked, I thought they were saying 'hey, yeah, we fucked that first one up so we're going to try and make it up to you with something really good this time'. So I was getting excited about this new movie, but this does seriously shake my confidence.
I'll see it in the theater in March (I have a 10 year old son; I almost have to), but it'll be 2D ('cause fuck 3D), and I'll expect it to be a steaming turd.

[ilzuccone]

My best friend worked at Paramount for several years, and still has a bunch of friends there. I texted him, he called a contact, and his contact confirmed the movie was a crapfest. He said he read the script and it is a huge mess. The 3D angle is cover for a very bad product. That's very disappointing.

i believe it.

bravo to the people who put the trailer together. The trailer is so good

[XAMOT]

Something tells me this is going to be like one of those Duke Nukem Forever things.

[Jmacq1]

All I can hope for now is that Dark Knight Rises will be pushed up for the July 4th weekend. After all, I knew from the beginning that Joe 2 Retardation was not a worthy July 4th blockbuster. Dark Knight Rises is a July 4th blockbuster. Here's to hoping they do as I prognosticate.

They will not move up The Dark Knight Rises. That's a whole separate studio...if they wanted the July 4th weekend, they could have claimed it long ago (DKR announced its' release date LONG before Amazing Spider-Man did).

Besides, there isn't really a "July 4th weekend" this year. July 4th falls on a Wednesday so there's no real "Holiday weekend" for it. Even so, Amazing Spider-Man has the date, and while DKR will almost certainly do better than ASM in the long run, neither film would want to open head-to-head against each other.

[Shin Densetsu]

Thing is, IF scenes are to be reshot, are the actors and actresses all going to be available? Rock is filming the next Fast and Furious and other random movies, Channing Tater is probably in some other girly flick, the Red Ninja stunt doubles are probably jump kicking the projection screens at the theater and LBH is probably going to film another drama or blockbuster in Asia.

[Fox]

Pulling the back this soon either means they're idiots or the movie is horrible. Both are possible. During those months doing 3D also gives them time to reshoot scenes and reedit the entire movie.

[sewnback2gether]

What really happened was hasbro put the club in charge of the final movie production. Doesn't it all make sense now?

[RAR]

who knew back in 1985 that battleship would cause the end of the gi joe franchise?

All is lost. Seriously. This is it.

you sank my gi joe!

[Troynos]

Thing is, IF scenes are to be reshot, are the actors and actresses all going to be available? Rock is filming the next Fast and Furious and other random movies, Channing Tater is probably in some other girly flick, the Red Ninja stunt doubles are probably jump kicking the projection screens at the theater and LBH is probably going to film another drama or blockbuster in Asia.

Which could be why it's almost a year delayed, to free up space in the schedules of the actors for reshoots.

[MLos1]

I saw it already.

Was decent.

[DJ CRUSH]

*crosses fingers that they make Roadblock NOT be a ninja*

[Shin Densetsu]

Pulling the back this soon either means they're idiots or the movie is horrible. Both are possible. During those months doing 3D also gives them time to reshoot scenes and reedit the entire movie.

That's the thing, being that it's being post converted, it may end up looking worse than the existing final cut.

you sank my gi joe!

LOL

[Galaxus]

This has bad movie written all over it.

[The Batman]

I find that pretty chickensh*t of Hasbro to force a delay for 3D. They need to come out with the real reason for this delay:

THAT DAMN MOVIE WILL NOT STAND A DAMN CHANCE AGAINST THE AVENGERS OR THE DARK KNIGHT RISES!!!!

Let's delay it till next year and we can make more money that way! HASBRO... YOU JUST SCREWED YOURSELF! If you think you pissed off some fans with your pathetic movie line figures... now just look what you did to your fanbase and all the kids who were waiting to see this movie. So damn pathetic. Dumabssery at it's greatest peak.

[red4]

We should close the forum and commit suicide to show Paramount who's boss.

[thairestauranteur]

That and they also have to fit tatum schedule. the dude has like 4 or 5 movies line up. Unless its been already been discuss with him


If you people look at the original teaser trailer, you will see what looks like the Rock's or some other persons hand pulling the dog tags from Taters dead body. The actor who appears to be Taters has his eyes closed.

Running with this, I suspect Duke took the axe and Ray is probably right. Retard Executive Officer Brian Golder, thought this was a great thing to do. Kill off Duke. I wouldn't blame him.

However, now that Chatum has A-lister celebrity status, Paramount was going 'what a fricking minute, you don't kill off your A-lister'.

I am telling you all. Watch Hasblo stock. It is going to sink because of this screw up.

They are going to come in and reshoot a bunch of scenes for 3D and then probably modify the script in the process.

Hasblo.


Hey Brian Goldner. You are a fucking idiot. I hope you get fired. It is because of your mismanagement that these films are taking a beating like they are. Goldner is a toy exec. What qualifications really make him a film exec producer? Money? You can flush money down the toilet all day and see where it gets you.

Time for someone else to take charge. I can only imagine what the interest payments alone will be for delaying the release of this movie.

I imagine Retardation will be released overseas as planned in June. Plan on getting a region 2 DVD off of ebay before Christmas time. If it is not released, expect the movie to be reshot and recut to fix screwups.

Maybe The Rock or Willis will be cut out of the film. Maybe Jon Chu has been axed. Is Joe 2: Retardation going to be an Allan Smithee production now?

I wonder what the Rock is going to say on his Twitter. He needs to come clean and not pull any punches as to what is going on this this mess of a movie.

Goldner. You get the coveted NO PRIZE. No one has ever cancelled a July 4th weekend movie. EVER. Except for you.

Let me tell you again......'You're FIRED!"

[BCDX97]

Finally! They listened and gave us what we wanted!

Okay, who wanted this? I blame you.

[Galaxus]

I find that pretty chickensh*t of Hasbro to force a delay for 3D. They need to come out with the real reason for this delay:

THAT DAMN MOVIE WILL NOT STAND A DAMN CHANCE AGAINST THE AVENGERS OR THE DARK KNIGHT RISES!!!!

Let's delay it till next year and we can make more money that way! HASBRO... YOU JUST SCREWED YOURSELF! If you think you pissed off some fans with your pathetic movie line figures... now just look what you did to your fanbase and all the kids who were waiting to see this movie. So damn pathetic. Dumabssery at it's greatest peak.

How is it hasbro, is it not paramount who delayed it?

[dewrag]

When I first read the email on my phone this evening.....my heart sank....this is absolutely the dumbest and most illogical move ever. the amount spent promoting the movie and the toy line set to go....just dumb...

screw paramount....

[drunknmunky]

Has anyone seen the interview with the Paramount executive?
Limo Scene Big Lebowski - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU7TznTkrlY)

[eddy-arashikage]

Why would he ask it?

If you had friends in the know would you not ask away??? I mean if your a fan of something you come onto and post onto a fan site, then this hobbey must take up some of your time, seems only natural that you would be asking at least something to get an idea of whats in store!

If his friend gave away a nugget like that after one phonecall/text message then why hasn't he asked before and came forward with some info?

Its all speculation based with zero facts at both ends at the end of the day, But to me it seems strange that all of a sudden he has somebody in the know as do some others who have found out from somebody high up in the scene who can confirm yeah, its a stinking pile of crap which goes against everything we have learned so far!

So far all the evidence suggests this will be a good film, I still have faith it will be, doesn't mean im not Bitterly dissapointed though.

[blackbarn]

Finally. Now theres six of us that can try to expain to the rest of the tank that the delay has more to do with retaliation screening poorly than some spontaneous need for paramount to make it 3D.

Im sure the additional ten months will come with several script rewrites and reshootings to take advantage of the added depth that comes with the new dimension...and eliminate as much suck as possible.

The 3d thing is an obvious cover to delay a movie that, chances are, is fundamentally broken, guys. Yes it sucks and im equally pissed, but lets acknowledge that odds are good the movie itself may actually suck more than the delay.

its not like paramount WANTED to do this. They need a hit franchise...

WHY CANT HOLLYWOOD GET THIS RIGHT!!??!!

Interesting. Of course, playing devil's advocate, it might have been the type of movie diehard Joe fans would love, but other moviegoers won't understand or get. Any changes made to it might make it LESS fan-friendly, for all we know.

It does seem to be an unprecedented move, and there's no way it can be a good thing for the movie. They should have cut their losses and released it. Now it is tainted by this delay nonsense in addition to any other problems it may have had.

Interesting also that John Carter (which I liked quite a bit) and Battleship (cinematic excrement) both starred the same actor, Taylor Kitsch. That poor guy's career is probably dead now after two huge bombs in a row in which he starred.

[BCDX97]

We should close the forum and commit suicide to show Paramount who's boss.

I already did! So take that! Oh, uh, wait...

Sarcasm is tough to discern on the internet!

[red4]

now that Chatum has A-lister celebrity status

how long have I been offworld?

[sithlordsmart]

Has anyone seen the interview with the Paramount executive?
Limo Scene Big Lebowski - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU7TznTkrlY)

^^^ Epic!!! lol

[TheRealDubya]

We should close the forum and commit suicide to show Paramount who's boss.

I love you dude. I really do.

[Troynos]

If you had friends in the know would you not ask away???

No.

[angelofdeath69]

By the time they try and retake this project, most of us will be cool or at least a little less angry. but i guess this is it for gijoe, nobody outside the fans will want to see the movie that was delayed almost a year, they will think is really bad.

At least i still read the comics.

[Troynos]

how long have I been offworld?

I wouldn't call him an A-Lister, but Tatum is a marketable name in Hollywood.

Doesn't make sense, but he is.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SNAKE_EYES1975
For what its worth, I just got off the phone with a good buddy that is an editor (subcontractor) in Hollywood, and he said everyone is talking about this.

His words, "I dont blame them, Avengers has been swallowing every other release. Dark shadows, Dictator, and Battleships were all flops. Battleship broke records set by john carter for most money lost domestically by a +200 million dollar movie. What it really means is, they screened it, and it got absolutely shit on"

My buddy has done work on bigtime shows. Thats what he told me. We both played Joe together as kids and he went west and hit it big with a great job. If he says everyone in his industry is talking about it as a VERY bad thing, I believe him. he knows more about the film industry than anybody I know.

As soon as I seen this I called him, and he answered the phone with "YEAAaaa...can you believe retaliation?" So as far as me, I know its all true and confirmed. He also said this may be a whole new kind of loss for a movie, as everyone that WAS interested in it, is pissed, anyone who was vaguely interested will forget it.

But as he said, it didnt have much to do with the whole 3D excuse, it was the fact it got screened and did VERY poorly.

Take it for what it is. Just another post on the tank.



Finally. Now theres six of us that can try to expain to the rest of the tank that the delay has more to do with retaliation screening poorly than some spontaneous need for paramount to make it 3D.

Im sure the additional ten months will come with several script rewrites and reshootings to take advantage of the added depth that comes with the new dimension...and eliminate as much suck as possible.

The 3d thing is an obvious cover to delay a movie that, chances are, is fundamentally broken, guys. Yes it sucks and im equally pissed, but lets acknowledge that odds are good the movie itself may actually suck more than the delay.

its not like paramount WANTED to do this. They need a hit franchise...

WHY CANT HOLLYWOOD GET THIS RIGHT!!??!!

We were just talking again. I was telling him of the (HAS to be) record breaking nerdrage going on in this thread, He told me, everyone is talking about this as being unheard of bad in the entertainment business, and he told me not to suprised if come a few months from now, if they dont want to spend another penny on advertisment, it could end up being bought by the Sci-Fi channel, or go straight to DVD.

[drunknmunky]

Dear Hasbro, you've done some dumb things...

Dumb and Dumber - Just When I Think You Couldn't Possibly Be Any Dumber - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo-YVqV0v4Q)

[Troynos]

but i guess this is it for gijoe, nobody outside the fans will want to see the movie that was delayed almost a year, they will think is really bad.

Not likely. No one outside the fans will care that it was delayed or even remember that it was delayed.

The majority of the people that would have gone to see this movie probably don't even know it's delayed and may not even have known it was coming out to begin with.

[red4]

page 117 ftw (at least by my settings)

[dbritt]

If you had friends in the know would you not ask away??? I mean if your a fan of something you come onto and post onto a fan site, then this hobbey must take up some of your time, seems only natural that you would be asking at least something to get an idea of whats in store!

If his friend gave away a nugget like that after one phonecall/text message then why hasn't he asked before and came forward with some info?

Its all speculation based with zero facts at both ends at the end of the day, But to me it seems strange that all of a sudden he has somebody in the know as do some others who have found out from somebody high up in the scene who can confirm yeah, its a stinking pile of crap which goes against everything we have learned so far!

So far all the evidence suggests this will be a good film, I still have faith it will be, doesn't mean im not Bitterly dissapointed though.



I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on this, because I'm way too old to be doing the internet pissing contest thing (not to say that's what you're trying to do). I have a ton of respect for the folks on this site because it's a huge community and there's very little friction.

My friend has not worked at Paramount for two or three years. He is also not a big GI Joe fan. I know much more about the line and even the movie than he does, because of this site. I tend to fill him in. Secondly, I don't ask him to dig around for me for info or rumors, cause it doesn't seem professional. He has worked there on two stints, and may end up back there, so I don't ask him to do things that might make him look like a rumor monger.

Finally, I didn't ask because, like I said, I follow it more closely than he does, and because I was taking the trailers and the news on this site at face value. This news shocked me so much that it prompted me to ask about it. Remember, I live in NC. My best friend lives in LA. We talk two or three times a week, and his past jobs are rarely the topic of conversation.

Don't take this post the wrong way, bud. I understand your skepticism, and like I said, I have no proof of this, so I'm not upset you don't believe me. I might not believe me in your shoes either. Also, keep in mind, I don't know who the guy is he talked to. That dude may not be a Joe fan at all, and may not get the script. I'm just saying, he claims the movie was pushed back due to quality rather than the 3D excuse.

[Cobra80]

Dear Hasbro:

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME ALL THE AWESOME TRAILERS ALL YEAR. THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THE 1ST LEGITIMATE LIVE ACTION GI JOE MOVIE.

THANK YOU FOR NOW CRUSHING MY TESTICLES AND BURSTING ALL MY EXCITMENT FOR THIS MOVIE. THANK YOU FOR NOT JUST CRUSHING MY TESTICLES. BUT FOR STEPPING ON THEM WITH HIGH HEELED SHOES, TAKING OUT THE HEAVIEST BOWLING BALL AND DROPPING IT ON THEM, HITTING THEM WITH THE BIGGEST SLEDGE HAMMER, THEN RUNNING THEM OVER WITH A BUS.

THAT IS WHAT IT JUST FELT LIKE TO READ THAT YOU HAVE PUSHED THIS MOVIE BACK UNTIL 2013. NOOOOOO JOOOOEEEEEE

[gruppenfuhrer88]

how long have I been offworld?

Funny^^^^

[Galaxus]

Why is everyone blaming hasbro when it was paramount that delayed the film, am I missing something?

[Cobra80]

I guess I will just rewatch the GI Joe 2 trailers over and over again for 2 hours and let that be my Joe 2 movie. SOrry but I WILL NOT wait until 2013 and see it in 3D. I will see it in March 2013 the same way I was going to see it in June.

[red4]

Why is this Sprite crunchy?

[red4]

Why is everyone blaming hasbro when it was paramount that delayed the film, am I missing something?

I've been putting effort in making sure my jokes are directed at Paramount.

[The Batman]

How is it hasbro, is it not paramount who delayed it?

Paramount had to get Hasbro's OK with this. It it THEIR product anyway on the line here. And apparentley we can go back to empty Joe pegs and no more figures for a while. Great sh*t isn't it?!

[Troynos]

Why is everyone blaming hasbro when it was paramount that delayed the film, am I missing something?

Hasbro is to blame for everything, didn't you know that?

Even stuff they have no direct control over, they are to blame.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SNAKE_EYES1975
For what its worth, I just got off the phone with a good buddy that is an editor (subcontractor) in Hollywood, and he said everyone is talking about this.

His words, "I dont blame them, Avengers has been swallowing every other release. Dark shadows, Dictator, and Battleships were all flops. Battleship broke records set by john carter for most money lost domestically by a +200 million dollar movie. What it really means is, they screened it, and it got absolutely shit on"

My buddy has done work on bigtime shows. Thats what he told me. We both played Joe together as kids and he went west and hit it big with a great job. If he says everyone in his industry is talking about it as a VERY bad thing, I believe him. he knows more about the film industry than anybody I know.

As soon as I seen this I called him, and he answered the phone with "YEAAaaa...can you believe retaliation?" So as far as me, I know its all true and confirmed. He also said this may be a whole new kind of loss for a movie, as everyone that WAS interested in it, is pissed, anyone who was vaguely interested will forget it.

But as he said, it didnt have much to do with the whole 3D excuse, it was the fact it got screened and did VERY poorly.

Take it for what it is. Just another post on the tank.




Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefox360
Finally. Now theres six of us that can try to expain to the rest of the tank that the delay has more to do with retaliation screening poorly than some spontaneous need for paramount to make it 3D.

Im sure the additional ten months will come with several script rewrites and reshootings to take advantage of the added depth that comes with the new dimension...and eliminate as much suck as possible.

The 3d thing is an obvious cover to delay a movie that, chances are, is fundamentally broken, guys. Yes it sucks and im equally pissed, but lets acknowledge that odds are good the movie itself may actually suck more than the delay.

its not like paramount WANTED to do this. They need a hit franchise...

WHY CANT HOLLYWOOD GET THIS RIGHT!!??!!

We were just talking again. I was telling him of the (HAS to be) record breaking nerdrage going on in this thread, He told me, everyone is talking about this as being unheard of bad in the entertainment business, and he told me not to suprised if come a few months from now, if they dont want to spend another penny on advertisment, it could end up being bought by the Sci-Fi channel, or go straight to DVD.


I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on this, because I'm way too old to be doing the internet pissing contest thing (not to say that's what you're trying to do). I have a ton of respect for the folks on this site because it's a huge community and there's very little friction.

My friend has not worked at Paramount for two or three years. He is also not a big GI Joe fan. I know much more about the line and even the movie than he does, because of this site. I tend to fill him in. Secondly, I don't ask him to dig around for me for info or rumors, cause it doesn't seem professional. He has worked there on two stints, and may end up back there, so I don't ask him to do things that might make him look like a rumor monger.

Finally, I didn't ask because, like I said, I follow it more closely than he does, and because I was taking the trailers and the news on this site at face value. This news shocked me so much that it prompted me to ask about it. Remember, I live in NC. My best friend lives in LA. We talk two or three times a week, and his past jobs are rarely the topic of conversation.

Don't take this post the wrong way, bud. I understand your skepticism, and like I said, I have no proof of this, so I'm not upset you don't believe me. I might not believe me in your shoes either. Also, keep in mind, I don't know who the guy is he talked to. That dude may not be a Joe fan at all, and may not get the script. I'm just saying, he claims the movie was pushed back due to quality rather than the 3D excuse.

Yep. One of my best buddys works right in the middle of ALL the hollywood shit. He tells me about parts of movies I should check out months before they come out.

He told me the same thing. It was screened. It was not pretty. He's right in the middle of all the movie stuff. Worked on tons of different shows and movies. We played GIJOE together as kids.

[red4]

Hasbro is to blame for everything, didn't you know that?

Even stuff they have no direct control over, they are to blame.

You misspelled Michael Bay.

[ozzie92]

I prefer to watch it in 4-D, using a time machine to see it this year.

This ^^^

[dewrag]

between this and the club not having registration up yet i'm pretty pissed, and now possibly there not being a parachute drop figure....

[Galaxus]

Paramount had to get Hasbro's OK with this. It it THEIR product anyway on the line here. And apparentley we can go back to empty Joe pegs and no more figures for a while. Great sh*t isn't it?!

Wait so if hasbro said no then paramount would have to release it?

[red4]

between this and the club not having registration up yet i'm pretty pissed, and now possibly there not being a parachute drop figure....

Do you want the parachute and webgear from my Cobra Trooper?

[Rainbow Viper]

Why is everyone blaming hasbro when it was paramount that delayed the film, am I missing something?

according to the links on the first page, hasbro and paramount BOTH decided on the delay together.

[SUPERVERITECH]

They've been showing the trailer with hte release date internationally. I think the amount of money they would generate in making 3D version would be negated in the expenditure of a delayed release. I pray to go not true.

[dtm1971]

they are going to reshot it but replace every one with Will Smith as everyone. G I Clumps!!!!!! YO CLUMPS!!! a remake of two movies!!!! LOL YO JOE!!!

[red4]

they are going to reshot it but replace every one with Will Smith as everyone. G I Clumps!!!!!! YO CLUMPS!!! a remake of two movies!!!! LOL YO JOE!!!

Martin Lawrence, man. Not Will Smith. Or Eddie Murphy. Them 2 do the fat suit movies.

[eddy-arashikage]

I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on this, because I'm way too old to be doing the internet pissing contest thing (not to say that's what you're trying to do). I have a ton of respect for the folks on this site because it's a huge community and there's very little friction.

My friend has not worked at Paramount for two or three years. He is also not a big GI Joe fan. I know much more about the line and even the movie than he does, because of this site. I tend to fill him in. Secondly, I don't ask him to dig around for me for info or rumors, cause it doesn't seem professional. He has worked there on two stints, and may end up back there, so I don't ask him to do things that might make him look like a rumor monger.

Finally, I didn't ask because, like I said, I follow it more closely than he does, and because I was taking the trailers and the news on this site at face value. This news shocked me so much that it prompted me to ask about it. Remember, I live in NC. My best friend lives in LA. We talk two or three times a week, and his past jobs are rarely the topic of conversation.

Don't take this post the wrong way, bud. I understand your skepticism, and like I said, I have no proof of this, so I'm not upset you don't believe me. I might not believe me in your shoes either. Also, keep in mind, I don't know who the guy is he talked to. That dude may not be a Joe fan at all, and may not get the script. I'm just saying, he claims the movie was pushed back due to quality rather than the 3D excuse.

Im glad you didn't get offended by my opinion as after all thats all it is, my skeptimism comes from as I have said all the evidence thusfar has pointed to this being a great movie to come, although this news of the delay has bittered the pill somewhat, I still remain hopefull however!!

It just seems really suss to me that they would pull it this close to the release date the amount of money spent on advertising they will have wasted millions I would assume add to that the amount to make it 3d hardly seem worth all the effort on how much they are gambling the film in 3d would make on top of what it would have made.

Especially as people on here have already mentioned John Chu's experience with filming in 3D and their stance on not using it, Did they not then look into it enough back when decisions were made?

Im probably just an over-zealous fan who wan'ts answers from what seems like a crazy decision!!

[Cobra80]

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[Galaxus]

according to the links on the first page, hasbro and paramount BOTH decided on the delay together.

But its not just hasbro, yet I see alot of anger twards them? I would have thought paramount is more to blame here in the end being they will lose more money if the film flopped, hasbro will still have us buying their product even if the movie tanked.

[TheRealDubya]

This also might be bigger than any of our theories put forth here, so far - this might be the tip of the spear in the changing global film economy.

The traditional US "dominance" or relevance as THE primary market for filmed entertainment is probably over. Used to be (as in, like, last year or the year before) that movies made most of their cash Stateside. It would appear that our wants and needs are quickly becoming secondary to those of our brothers and sisters on foreign shores.

It's The Shift of the cash stacks, yo.

[Cobra80]

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[The Batman]

Wait so if hasbro said no then paramount would have to release it?

Hasbro makes GI Joe. Hasbro coulda got someone else to shoot the movie for them. There are dozens of different film companies. This has HASBRO written all over it!!! They screw us with figures and now the movie. AND NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT 3-D!!!!! IT'S OVER RATED!!!! Sitting there with a pair of goofy ass glasses on for 2+ hours is just damn annoying!!!

[dewrag]

do you guys think hasbro doesn't want to sell the toys this summer...this is a huge hit to them.....paramount is to blame..

[red4]

do you guys think hasbro doesn't want to sell the toys this summer...this is a huge hit to them.....paramount is to blame..

Hasbro doesn't care about anything. Hasbro is cats.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

do you guys think hasbro doesn't want to sell the toys this summer...this is a huge hit to them.....paramount is to blame..

Hasbro is the loser here.

Wait til the reports come in for this expected quarter.

[sithlordsmart]

Bold Strategy Cotton - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ru8DMW-grY)

[Cobra80]

Hasbro, Mass Retail and The People vs. Paramount, will be bigger then Roe vs Wade...

Nice
Hasbro, Mass Retail and The People as the ROCK says THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS VS SH&TMOUNT

[Galaxus]

Hasbro makes GI Joe. Hasbro coulda got someone else to shoot the movie for them. There are dozens of different film companies. This has HASBRO written all over it!!! They screw us with figures and now the movie. AND NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT 3-D!!!!! IT'S OVER RATED!!!! Sitting there with a pair of goofy ass glasses on for 2+ hours is just damn annoying!!!

I agree 3D sucks but I just dont see this as a hasbro screw up as much as a paramount screw up.

[The Batman]

But its not just hasbro, yet I see alot of anger twards them? I would have thought paramount is more to blame here in the end being they will lose more money if the film flopped, hasbro will still have us buying their product even if the movie tanked.

I will never blame Paramount for a damn thing. They will just go and help make a movie that will make Retaliation look like 'Meet the Spartans'. This is all on Hasbro and their fear because Avengers crushed their pathetic attempt at a Battleship movie which looks like a spoof of Transformers meets Independance Day vs the ships at sea.

[red4]

Who wants my Retaliation Cobra Trooper's parachuting gear? I don't have a use for that stuff.

[steve_smmr]

i'd just like to take a moment and say that i find it completely magical how this thread is still going strong.

[hahoo3]

what's the record for most posts in 24 hours in one thread!? This is crazy!

Sucks, was looking forward to the movie, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

[Rainbow Viper]

But its not just hasbro, yet I see alot of anger twards them? I would have thought paramount is more to blame here in the end being they will lose more money if the film flopped, hasbro will still have us buying their product even if the movie tanked.

well I don't really have any strong opinion on who is to blame. So far it says they both agreed so clearly they both are to blame I guess. All I know is I don't buy the whole "we're delaying it to release in 3D" crap. Even the Rock's tweet makes it sound like he is doing damage control on the news by stating how exciting and kickass it's going to be to see him in 3D. As far as the toys go, I don't think it will be that big of a deal as I don't really care for most of the retaliation toys except for a few anyway.

[drunknmunky]

We should close the forum and commit suicide to show Paramount who's boss.


Pimps Don't Commit Suicide - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0IexZXHyCE)

[eddy-arashikage]

what's the record for most posts in 24 hours in one thread!? This is crazy!

Sucks, was looking forward to the movie, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Its 04:38 here too late for that daaaaaaaaaaaamn!!

[The Batman]

i'd just like to take a moment and say that i find it completely magical how this thread is still going strong.

This is worse than an SDCC Slaughtergate or Zaranagate that you will ever witness.

[Griff]

Who wants my Retaliation Cobra Trooper's parachuting gear? I don't have a use for that stuff.

i just wanted one SE and SS from the film (maybe the ninaj 3 pack). now that aint gonna happen either damnit

[SUPERVERITECH]

Big mistake to Paramount and Hasbro... to leave a film in post production for so long? Surely a copy will get out onto the internet and destroy revenue. It is so disrespectful to the fans to pull a movie so close to the date. A decision on 3D should have been made before shooting ended. Do they not realise that Titanic's success on re-release had more to do with it being a multiple Academy Award winning picture and the 100th anniversary of the Titanic Disaster than the post-production 3D work. Worst marketing decision ever.

[Clobbertron]

My friend works for Paramount and said Hasbro pulled the plug so there you have it. Last post.

[red4]

Just gonna use this 1 more time, since so much stuff is being missed in the lightning speed of the thread.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/144/5/a/loluguys_by_action_figure_opera-d50zj9o.jpg

[eddy-arashikage]

Big mistake to Paramount and Hasbro... to leave a film in post production for so long? Surely a copy will get out onto the internet and destroy revenue. It is so disrespectful to the fans to pull a movie so close to the date. A decision on 3D should have been made before shooting ended. Do they not realise that Titanic's success on re-release had more to do with it being a multiple Academy Award winning picture and the 100th anniversary of the Titanic Disaster. Worst marketing decision ever.

^this^

[eddy-arashikage]

My friend works for Paramount and said Hasbro pulled the plug so there you have it. Last post.

They say why?

[dewrag]

I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but it does seem like a coincidence. Remember back in the 80's when Optimus Prime was killed off in the Transformers and all the backlash it had for the kids...

Now remember GI Joe the movie, they had orginally planned for duke to be killed off, but because of Optimus they didn't and they also decided because of this to just show the Gi Joe movie on TV and not the theaters...

Man we have been getting fucked over for a long time....

So now It looked like Duke was killed off again,

I would assume that they were screening it towards kids...and not us fan boys who channing tatum....

I think the kids fucked us, and it's maybe dukes death all over again...

[GI Joe Eternal]

We supposedly do this because we enjoy it and it's fun.

The last few months have been very tough for Joe fans. It's been neither enjoyable or fun.

This is incredibly disrespectful for fans. What a joke.

[TheRealDubya]

They say why?

I think his super dope insider pal said earlier that it was a shitbag, or something like that.

[TheRealDubya]

Worst. Joe Day. Ever.

[eddy-arashikage]

Worst. Joe Day. Ever.



Agreed this is a GI Joke!!!!