Since Battleship failed horribly at the BOX Office is anyone scare for Retaliation?

[Crazy Legs]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

[ero]

I didn't know it was even out yet.

No, it has nothing to do with Retaliation.

[Flint Faireborn]

Not scared for Retaliation at all. It won't do Avenger numbers, but it should make a profit.

[Beckley]

I'm more worried about the fate of Chutes & Ladders the movie.
If that never sees the light of day I'll be bummed.

[thecrimsonpool]

Retaliation looks nothing like Battleship, i think most people knew Battleship was a joke from the get go, as for Retaliation we will just have to wait and see : S but i am hopeful

[orezona]

There's two words for why Battleship failed:

Liam Neeson

/Only partially kidding.

[kneroh]

I'm more worried about Magic Mike

[jumido]

Avengers is going to end up being one of the highest grossing movies ever. I've seen Avengers and for the life of me can't imagine a scenario where I would pick Battleship regardless of how many times I had seen Avengers. But I would see Retaliation over Avengers. Regardless,the Avengers mania will be over by the time Retaliation comes out so it should do fine

[Alyosha]

Not to start up an argument again, but I blame the opening week poor showing of Battleship on Micheal Bay. Hear me out:

If you look at the trailer, obviously the CG and style of the movie is aped from all three of the TF movies (which, coincidentally I did NOT care for). Peter Berg is a GREAT action director (see The Kingdom if you haven't), but it looks like the way the studio and producer (Bonaventura) wanted to sell this, was the same way they did TF.

Because the TF movie were so poorly written and conceived (opinion), they studios are expecting that we as consumers of pop culture will take more of the same Bay style of film-making. All flash, and practically no substance.

I (along with more than a few others) have decided to be skeptical, rather than get "Lucased" again. Again, this is just my opinion.

[RuckusJr]

ROC did 54 Million...even with the people who'd never go see another GI Joe movie after seeing ROC, Retaliation will still do more than Battleship. A movie starring Rhianna? No thank you.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Hell No...a movie about transfomering wanna be aliens playing battleship is not the GI JOE remake of the century...how can you make a movie about a board game anyway? serisouly? I cant wait to see Life and Monopoly..oh yes...Jim Cary will make a come back and they can put Brittany Spears as the wife in Life...sounds liek a great movie!...blech

Needless to say, i am not one bit least concerned with Retaliation's movie impending greatness..it will do fine...

[Xenos]

The biggest problem for Battleship was just that it was aiming for the same audience as the Avengers, yet it was obvious that the Avengers was a much better movie.
Retaliation has a bit of a leg up in that when it comes out it will have been three weeks since an action flick came out, and that movie is Prometheus, which I don't really see putting up huge numbers anyways.

Also, GI Joe actually has a fanbase, unlike Battleship. And when I say fanbase I'm not just talking about the people here on Hisstank, but rather people that watched or played with Joes when they were kids.

[Fox]

Looked like a Redbox rental only movie.

[5h4rK]

Ants in the pants movie anyone?

[GI Guppy the third]

Battleship has supposedly rolled in 200 million overseas which is just strange.

The problem is the movie was going to fail from the very beginning because the idea of taking the boardgame and turning it into an alien vs US Navy story is just dumb. Normally I can breakdown why, but that's just how freaking dumb it sounds.

GI Joe and Transformers at least has over 30 years of canon to draw up some story people can at least identify and that's where Retaliation will succeed.

[5h4rK]

Damn, already done.. :-(

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[GI Guppy the third]

Hell No...a movie about transfomering wanna be aliens playing battleship is not the GI JOE remake of the century...how can you make a movie about a board game anyway? serisouly? I cant wait to see Life and Monopoly..oh yes...Jim Cary will make a come back and they can put Brittany Spears as the wife in Life...sounds liek a great movie!...blech

Needless to say, i am not one bit least concerned with Retaliation's movie impending greatness..it will do fine...

So I guess watching Clue is a no go?

[skinny]

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[GI Guppy the third]

You know, if I had time, I'd take a digital copy of Battleship and photoshop it to hell so the movie becomes a Joe vs Cobra at sea.

[CrimsonGuard101]

So I guess watching Clue is a no go?

Clue was already done...and done well at that...Tim Curry rocked that movie lol..theres now ay they could do CLue 2...no way...unless Channing tatumn was in it...

[GI C]

Battleship reminded me if Indepndance Day rip-off.

[Fast_Draw]

I'm more concerned with the fact that the new Spiderman comes out the week after Retaliation and the new Batman 2 weeks after that. I expect Retaliation to do well the first weekend, but then we may see a significant drop-off.

[ero]

Not to start up an argument again, but I blame the opening week poor showing of Battleship on Micheal Bay. Hear me out:


I'm happy to blame anything on Michael Bay.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I'm happy to blame anything on Michael Bay.

Do you blame Michael bay for ROC?

[kneroh]

Do you blame Michael bay for ROC?

If he wanted to it would be a pretty easy leap in logic to make that argument.

[Crazy Legs]

Battleship reminded me if Indepndance Day rip-off.

Which was a rip-off of War of the Worlds.

[spiderpumpkin]

It had to fail so headlines could say so and so movie sank your Battleship.

[ero]

Do you blame Michael bay for ROC?

Yeah, I do. But only the bad parts.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Yeah, I do. But only the bad parts.

Ok so I can blame him for Hulk being in the avengers movie instead of Wolverine?

[Xenos]

I'm more concerned with the fact that the new Spiderman comes out the week after Retaliation and the new Batman 2 weeks after that. I expect Retaliation to do well the first weekend, but then we may see a significant drop-off.

IT's pretty common though for summer movies to have big competition the week right after coming out. I've guessing that Retaliation will lose about 50% of it's business, just like almost every other summer movie does.

In the end I think Retaliation will earn somewhere between RoC and Fast Five. It will have similar numbers to last year's Captain America or Thor I think.

[MrHateAol]

A) The only problem with Liam Neeson is the fact it was so frakking obvious he was painfully waiting to pick up his check and leave.

B) The film IS way lite on character and motivation, but like Arnold Schwarzeneggar it's big, loud and dumb. And i liked a lot of his movies too. Having said that, the actors are all capable and service the admittedly not too hectic acting demands asked of them. If I had not known going in that was Rhianna (or however it's spelled...) I wouldn't have said "pop singer".

C) I was writing a review for this thing yesterday and I came to a stumping point. When I tried to explain what the aliens were doing here in the first place I drew a complete blank. We're told by most everyone that this is an extinction-level event, but the aliens do not attack us, we attack them. They do not threaten us and steal out land, they set up a vacation resort in the Hawaiian ocean area. Hell, even the assault on Hong Kong was not an aggressive act, they were coming to Earth and just hit one of our satellites and sent their own communications ship off-course and into downtown HK. The aliens demonstrate on multiple occasions a respect of sorts for human life, but a willingness to aggressively protect their own, even launching a daring rescue mission to retrieve a captured comrade the sailors fish out of the sea, using mostly non-lethal force. So the aliens' motivation is.... hazy... at best.

D) Already grossed a quarter of a billion dollars, and guess what, they've programmed enough CGI to financially justify five more films in the franchise using this tech.

E) Jon Chu's "boots on the ground" approach is probably making for a leaner operating budget and the willingness to bring in top of the line action stars to not just pad the film's chances, but in the case of Dwayne Johnson (and this is something I rarely say...) absolutely enhance the actual movie makes me think GI Joe is going to be the surpise hit for a few weeks.

And as much as we hate to admit it, opening this sucker overseas is actually a smart thing on Paramount's side. They can tweak last minute commercials and print ads and really build up the enthusiasm to a boiling point by the end of June (like we'd need that anyhow...0.

I'm not weeping for Battleship, and I'm not concerned for GI Joe. I liked Battleship for exactly the reason most people hated it, and I expect Joe to impress the hell out of me.

Good time to be a fan.

[blackman2005]

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[lowlight27]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

Its actually done more then $200 Million worldwide and is critically acclaimed

[orezona]

Battleship got beat by the Avengers at the box office like a certain R&B signer got beat by her no-talent-ass-clown rapper boyfriend.

/too soon?

[Griff]

There's one word for why Battleship failed:

Rihanna

NOT Kidding...like anyone can buy that no talen skank as a soldier.

fixed that for ya buddy :D

Battleship got beat by the Avengers at the box office like a certain R&B signer got beat by her no-talent-ass-clown rapper boyfriends.

/too soon?

not soon enough :D

[kneroh]

Its actually done more then $200 Million worldwide and is critically acclaimed

That's not what "critically acclaimed" means. :D

[sbartek1974]

Battleship got beat by the Avengers at the box office like a certain R&B signer got beat by her no-talent-ass-clown rapper boyfriend.

/too soon?

Are you talking about Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown? :)

Is it too soon for that one?

[infinitefilms]

Well movies are expensive and I think most people were planning on skipping Battleship so they could save money to watch Prometheus and GI Joe: Retaliation. That's my plan anyway. Battleship looks to Michael Bayish, yes that's words of description now. Michael Bay forgets that people are intelligent. We need more Directers like J. J. Abrams (Star Trek 2009).

[hotmitts]

The trouble with Battleships is that it's a terrible idea for a Movie in the first place. Just terrible!
Whichever executives came up with that were really up their own arses.

[thecrimsonpool]

the real question is will GI JOE Retaliation beat The Amazing Spider Man?

[CrimsonGuard101]

the real question is will GI JOE Retaliation beat The Amazing Spider Man?

Dosent matter, I wont be seeing the stupid unamazing spider man lol...I would rather see battleship...twice...

[KingBiohazerd]

I would worry because spiderman is opening right around the same time.

[Kaedryl]

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Been collecting joes too long....thought that said TAOBAO and wondered who the hell would make a movie about the chinese ebay.

[Havok]

I think Battleship just opened at a bad time. It going to be hard for it to perform well in the wake of Avengers. But, I think that will not affect Retaliation at all. Besides, I'm going to go see Battleship this weekend. I heard it was pretty good.

[cobralegion]

I actually liked Battleship. Its the usual summer movie with lots of explosions and aliens. I liked that it didn't bury itself in needless plot ideas and was just one action scene to the next. I'm hoping the Joe movie is like that. I want 100 HISS tanks blowing the crap out of the Joe team while fighting off the Iron Grenadiers. I know we wont get that..sadly.

[blackbarn]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

Retaliation looks cool. Battleship sounded dumb from the day it was announced. PLUS Battleship was going up against the phenomenon that is The Avengers, still going strong. I'm not worried.

[Viper6]

i liked it.

[Xaven]

Ok so I can blame him for Hulk being in the avengers movie instead of Wolverine?

Nope. The Hulk was one of the first Avengers back in the '60's, and the film rights are owned by Marvel. Wolverine only recently became an Avenger, and is owned by Sony.

So if you blame anyone on that, blame Stan Lee and Marvel.

[arch2b]

Took the kids and we all enjoyed it for what it was. Fun, action, aliens, battleship... Good summer movie fun.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Nope. The Hulk was one of the first Avengers back in the '60's, and the film rights are owned by Marvel. Wolverine only recently became an Avenger, and is owned by Sony.

So if you blame anyone on that, blame Stan Lee and Marvel.

I was jesting...but it is old material to be holding on to since the 60's....thats been more then 52 years ago...most of anyone who cared that much to have a computer animated green booger running amok with the aweosmess that is Tony Stark/Rober Downy Jr...without Downy...avengers would have flopped...

[Sgt Major Haley]

Battleship got beat by the Avengers at the box office like a certain R&B signer got beat by her no-talent-ass-clown rapper boyfriend.

/too soon?

You know the words, sign along everyone

S.O.S. Chris Brown just hit me.........

[Beckley]

80's Operation "Board Game" Commercial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnjT1AloSNw)

[DESTRO]

Worldwide: $240,834,825 is not fail, opening up so close to Avengers is. Battleship was awesome, nothing like Transformers, more like Top Gun and ID4 mixed together.

Go see it before you talk Ish!

[X-factorz]

Worldwide: $240,834,825 is not fail, opening up so close to Avengers is. Battleship was awesome, nothing like Transformers, more like Top Gun and ID4 mixed together.

Go see it before you talk Ish!

lol, I was thinking the same thing. I'm personally not a big fan of the cast except Liam Neeson but the movie has done great over seas. I don't understand why we would think that the success of this movie would have any relevance to judge the potential success of Retaliation.

[drunknmunky]

Problem with Retaliation is-
1. Battleship was advertised all day long on every channel. Seriously every commercial break there was a commercial for it. Retaliation has had nearly 0 commercials on TV. I can't remember the last time I seen one. The people I talk to at work had no clue a new one was coming out.
2. It releases on June 29th. Only other movie releasing that day is another Tyler Perry abomination that will somehow still make money. However the next weekend you have Amazing Spider Man. Week after that Ice Age: Continental Drift, week after that is Dark Knight Rises. So basically GI Joe will likely open at number 1 but will get smashed the following weeks.

[Outback 2094]

Clue is great. One of my favorite movies.

So I guess watching Clue is a no go?

[eddy-arashikage]

The more times that we all go and see it and the more friends we bring along then the better it will do, also what would help is if we didn't all try to become the worlds most obnoxious film critic and rip the film a new a-hole!!

Word of mouth spreads well and as fans its up to us how popular GI JOE can be...

[wertdog91]

If it wasn't up against Avengers, it might of done ok. Now if they put out Hungry Hungry Hippos, Avengers would of fell out of number 1

[Ford]

I liked Battleship. It was fun. Though for being so long, it had some huge plot holes. I wish it had a more real, "District 9" type feel to it, but it was okay. I think being a "Friday Night Lights" fan helped.

I find it funny that people hate on Rihanna, yet fully support an ex-convict crackhead like Robert Downey Jr. I like the guy too, but he's a bit full of himself now. Somebody needs to remind him that he's not actually Tony Stark. Speaking of which, how can they live in a world where he can make a suit of armor strong enough to take on Thor or an army of aliens, and flying aircraft carriers are a reality...yet the billionaire genius can't get some shrapnel out of his friggin' chest?!

Anyway, I really want to see Retaliation. And I think I'll like it. But I don't expect it to be a big hit. After "Avengers" dies down, people will move on to "Prometheus" I believe. "Men In Black III" is going to bomb just as bad, if not worse, than "Battleship". Then there will be another lull until "The Amazing Spider-Man". It will have a good first week, then drop off. Then "The Dark Knight Rises" will take over all of July.

[Crazy Legs]

Worldwide: $240,834,825 is not fail, opening up so close to Avengers is. Battleship was awesome, nothing like Transformers, more like Top Gun and ID4 mixed together.

Go see it before you talk Ish!

When the budget is 209 million.....yeah, that's not doing good.

[Sgt Major Haley]

lol, I was thinking the same thing. I'm personally not a big fan of the cast except Liam Neeson but the movie has done great over seas. I don't understand why we would think that the success of this movie would have any relevance to judge the potential success of Retaliation.

Jerry Lewis does great over seas.....just sayin

[JoeMama]

I am just hoping they have a few 'you sunk my battleship' one-liners...
zing!

[Gung.Heaux]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

no, me no scare for joe.

[lowlight27]

That's not what "critically acclaimed" means. :D

Battleship Review | Movie Reviews and News | Summer Movies - Calendar, Trailers, Movie Photos, Movie Clips, Movie Guide | EW.com (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20483133_20587674,00.html)

Along with the #1 Spot for EW Must List is what I meant.

[MrHateAol]

When the budget is 209 million.....yeah, that's not doing good.

After cable and video sales, Battleship will have made a nice little profit. The crying over profits is for show.

As for Dark Knight, don't expect this to be the monster hit the last one was. Instead of a star-turning legacy embracing performance like Heath Ledger which actually stood the test of living up to nine months of non-stop hype, you have Anne Hathaway in tights and a sorority girl mask.

Yeah... Dark Knight is gonna leave a crater of "What the?" proportions all over the summer movie scene. Stupidest looking film of the summer and that fully includes Battleship.

[RuckusJr]

Its actually done more then $200 Million worldwide and is critically acclaimed

Films recoup approximately 55% of their ticket sales worldwide. So 110M is a decent start but the movie being a flop is worse press than it being a bad movie.

[MeLikeJinx]

Even ROC made like almost 60 million opening weekend I think... 25 million is pretty bad. Retaliation should do well though; Bruce Willis's name alone should get 20 million, The Rock should add on another 15 million.. Ninjas will take care of the rest.

[MrClean]

If it had opened at a different time, not against such huge competition at the box office, everyone here would be singing it's praises and making customs of the characters. It's a giant, over the top, fun action movie, not a drama about two old men playing battleship in the park on Sunday.

[Fast_Draw]

B6.

You sunk my Scrabbleship!

This game makes no sense.

Tell that to the good men that just lost their lives.

[rfarrell22]

I'm more concerned with the fact that the new Spiderman comes out the week after Retaliation and the new Batman 2 weeks after that. I expect Retaliation to do well the first weekend, but then we may see a significant drop-off.
Yeah!! That is not awesome!!

If I remember correctly, the preview of spiderman before the avengers said it was coming out July 3rd, so Retaliation only has four days of no competition!!

[Zarana]

I'm worried there won't be a battleship xxx parody now. I think the best we can hope for is an episode of cap stabbin.

[Headman]

Did anyone ever say "You sank my battleship!" in the film?

[thairestauranteur]

The trouble with Battleships is that it's a terrible idea for a Movie in the first place. Just terrible!
Whichever executives came up with that were really up their own arses.


Goldner.

[Headman]

The connect four movie is gonna kick ass!

[kneroh]

The connect four movie is gonna kick ass!

They already made one.

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[EduardimusPrime]

looks like a possible rental... but probably not.

[the odinson]

Did anyone ever say "You sank my battleship!" in the film?

i need to know this, too.

[speedocub]

No that line isn't in the movie...that I can remember. But the brief tie in to the actual game is clever even if the movie has no point or plot.

[Adamantite]

The closest that Battleship should ever have come to a movie should've been that scene from Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.

[the odinson]

No that line isn't in the movie...that I can remember. But the brief tie in to the actual game is clever even if the movie has no point or plot.

i am disappointed. how can you make a ridiculous big budget movie based on a stupid board game and not put the catch phrase in it?

[speedocub]

i am disappointed. how can you make a ridiculous big budget movie based on a stupid board game and not put the catch phrase in it?


Kinda like you can have a Liam Neeson and sideline him the whole fuggin movie.

[the odinson]

Kinda like you can have a Liam Neeson and sideline him the whole fuggin movie.

geez, he was the only draw.

[speedocub]

geez, he was the only draw.

He was for me.

[KingBiohazerd]

What they should have done is set the movie in the past and based it off one of the great battles of ww1 or ww2. Or just not of wasted the money.

[Griff]

Worldwide: $240,834,825 is not fail, opening up so close to Avengers is. Battleship was awesome, nothing like Transformers, more like Top Gun and ID4 mixed together.

Go see it before you talk Ish!

I won FREE tickets to battleship...and got up and walked out. Its pretty bad when you walk out of a FREE movie!

[Chase Variant]

Films recoup approximately 55% of their ticket sales worldwide. So 110M is a decent start but the movie being a flop is worse press than it being a bad movie.

Studios get around 55% of the domestic box office revenue. Foreign box office is more like 40%. And after foreign marketing, tariffs, and such, that number is more like 15%. So a movie that does well internationally but does poor domestic box office can still be a big loss for the studio.

[helrod]

Nobody EVER wanted Battleship to happen other than the idiots who approved it for a film.
I wouldn't even compare the two.

[CobraOfficer999]

And now there's a Battleship video game based on the movie. Saw it advertised on Cartoon Network tonight at 1145 PM CST. It'll probably be a bigger failure than the movie.
What's the logic?
Movie planner one: Hey, the film's a flop. What now?
Producer: I know, let's release the video game. That might sell.
Planners: Duh, Okay.

And, no, I think retailiation will do fine. We just might get a blooper reel with the Rock giving John Chu the Rock Bottom while Bruce Willis shoots the two didget salute to him and shouts "Yippie Ki-ye, M-Fer." Because of his work with Bieber.

[Steelgrave]

How typical, the general audience liked it, the closed minded critics & comic book nerds didn't even give it a chance. The same story every year.

"Oh it's based on a board game, there's no way it can be any good, I'm going to trash it before I even see it just like I do with every movie because I'm a typical closed minded comic book nerd!"


Anyway, today is $5 day at my theater, I don't go to the movies on the weekends. I go on Tuesdays. I already know I'm going to love Battleship. I also loved John Carter, Wrath Of The Titans & Avengers. There's not much in this world that is more worthless & pathetic than the opinions of comic book nerds & movie critics.

It's sad how you can predict Avengers & The Dark Knight Rises will probably be the only movies this summer that don't bomb. Maybe Spider Man too but most of the others don't have much of a chance. The critics & comic nerds will most likely trash every other movie that comes this year.

[topnotch97]

NO!!!!!! Don't jinx it!!!! I wanna see Retaliation!!!!

[Crimson Rage]

It would just as logical (and pointless) to predict Retaliation's takings by comparing it to Transformers...

But no, the performance of the next GI Joe film is never something I'd be "scared" about... ever.

[ilzuccone]

the trailer is good enough to draw non gi joe fans. I think it will do well

[Ripper]

Guessing that they will not make a movie of my favorite game..."Chutes and Ladders" any time soon. :(

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

So far, Battleship has made what..., $220 million globally?

Yep, it's failed horribly. Probably won't make another dime during the next 4-6 weeks it's in theaters in the US either. I guess we'll never see Connect 4 on the silver screen now. Damn you Avengers!

[TheLongestDay]

Guessing that they will not make a movie of my favorite game..."Chutes and Ladders" any time soon. :(

Its called SNAKES and Ladders here,thats right...you slide down Snakes!

BTW Battleship was the worst film I have seen this year....BATTLESHIT more like!!!!

[dpstro]

Hope that Retaliation fails so they will stop making movie toys. Well ok that was harsh. Hope the toyline fails. Yes that will teach them a lesson!

[ChaplainAsst]

Battleship is huge overseas, as it opened ahead of Avengers worldwide. It is "failing" because Avengers is still huge domestically - nothing is doing well against it.

Comparing that to GI Joe makes little sense as Avengers will have dramatically lost box office dominance by then. GI Joe will have its day in the sun, make over 100 million domestically very quickly and then we will see how it does over the weeks after. This summer has quite a few blockbusters - MIB3, Spider-Man, Batman among others. All of those have fans that are waiting for these movies with baited breath. Once they come out, it will likely be like the Avengers - not much will compete with them.

[cobracobra]

Avengers wasn't even that great of a movie. If it was TF3 that would be different but I am not sure Avengers will be the summer blockbuster #1 this year.

[VideoViper]

Battleship did well overseas. It did about expected domestically, (Not great but OK) I think they knew US audiences wouldn't like it, similar to ROC. Battleship will make its money on rentals & other 2nd chance offerings..

Retalitaion will do just fine, the general buzz about it is far better than ROC or Battleship.

[MJjoe4life]

Retalitaion will do just fine, the general buzz about it is far better than ROC or Battleship.

this^^^

[sbartek1974]

So I guess this means we will not see any 3 3/4" Battleship action figures? Damn I was needing more Joe troop builders!

[speedocub]

Battleship is huge overseas, as it opened ahead of Avengers worldwide. It is "failing" because Avengers is still huge domestically - nothing is doing well against it.

Comparing that to GI Joe makes little sense as Avengers will have dramatically lost box office dominance by then. GI Joe will have its day in the sun, make over 100 million domestically very quickly and then we will see how it does over the weeks after. This summer has quite a few blockbusters - MIB3, Spider-Man, Batman among others. All of those have fans that are waiting for these movies with baited breath. Once they come out, it will likely be like the Avengers - not much will compete with them.


Battleship is "failing" because it's bad. It lacks cohesion, a plot and any sense. The movie is just ridiculous. Go see it and I think you may agree. There are very few redeeming qualities in this movie. The acting, it horrible. The Alien effects are just silly and they seeming have no purpose...why are they here? What are they here to accomplish? For that matter what is anyone out here to accomplish?

The whole concept is preposterous, such as resurrecting the Missouri, just to have it blown up. I can't believe the US Navy even allowed that. It said to me our current forces are ill equipped to handle a hopping alien ship and a 70 year old battleship and 100 year old men are gonna show them aliens what for. Really? It's a shame to expose and humiliate our Navy in this way...even for fantastical theater.

Sure the movie was visually stunning, and had Liam Neeson...for about 5 minutes but thats all it had. Avengers has proved to be a very good movie, just because Marvel and established super heros do well at the box office. And as for Retaliation...It's far better off than ROC in many movie goer's eyes and any reflection of Battleship on Retaliation, comparing one unrelated movie to another is just silly.

[Shipwreck]

Ok so I can blame him for Hulk being in the avengers movie instead of Wolverine?

Wolverine was not an avenger at the time of the original setup. so.. no, you can't blame him. However you can blame him for ''why isn't there a hearts of darkness film'' with Punisher, Wolverine and Ghost Rider.

[blackman2005]

the real question is will GI JOE Retaliation beat The Amazing Spider Man?

Hell to the NO!!!!

Amazing Spider-Man will probably be neck and neck the Avengers and Dark Knight Rises as far as best opening weekend for Summer 2012. All are expected to reach $800 million in their first four weeks in theaters. G.I. Joe: Retaliation will be a slow creeper with earning an estimated $380 million worldwide for this Summer season.

[Crimson Rage]

Battleship is "failing" because it's bad.

So was TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON, but that did well.

[speedocub]

So was TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON, but that did well.

I know you'll probably hate me for saying so, but I thought Dark of the Moon was a far better movie than the previous three. I have my reasons. I still don't like the direction that the transformers took...All that high res moving metal and bug like robots. But the third movie actually resembled more of a TF plot and they got my attention.

[polyphenus]

Yes. Hit the panic button and move on.

[CG82]

Battleship wasnt bad at all.

[ChaplainAsst]

Battleship is "failing" because it's bad. It lacks cohesion, a plot and any sense. The movie is just ridiculous. Go see it and I think you may agree. There are very few redeeming qualities in this movie. The acting, it horrible. The Alien effects are just silly and they seeming have no purpose...why are they here? What are they here to accomplish? For that matter what is anyone out here to accomplish?

The whole concept is preposterous, such as resurrecting the Missouri, just to have it blown up. I can't believe the US Navy even allowed that. It said to me our current forces are ill equipped to handle a hopping alien ship and a 70 year old battleship and 100 year old men are gonna show them aliens what for. Really? It's a shame to expose and humiliate our Navy in this way...even for fantastical theater.

Sure the movie was visually stunning, and had Liam Neeson...for about 5 minutes but thats all it had. Avengers has proved to be a very good movie, just because Marvel and established super heros do well at the box office. And as for Retaliation...It's far better off than ROC in many movie goer's eyes and any reflection of Battleship on Retaliation, comparing one unrelated movie to another is just silly.

I don't think you understand summer blockbuster movies. Story is secondary to experience. Now, that is not to say that a great story and an amazing experience plus brilliant acting can't create an amazing movie - but its not a guarantee either (see Serenity).

Battleship was well placed as an early summer movie that really has done well outside of the US. If this movie had been released a couple of weeks earlier in the US, this could have been a hit here too. Plenty of summer movies have been really terrible (Wild Wild West for example) and yet been huge.

I hate the TFs movies (the last one was the best of the lot, but still pretty bad and often times made no sense) but made huge amounts of money because they were fun action movies. So is Battleship.

[GI Guppy the third]

i am disappointed. how can you make a ridiculous big budget movie based on a stupid board game and not put the catch phrase in it?

Its called SNAKES and Ladders here,thats right...you slide down Snakes!

BTW Battleship was the worst film I have seen this year....BATTLESHIT more like!!!!

Worst than John Carter?

[GI Guppy the third]

It was..ok.

When asked about it, I describe it as the "cliche, feel-good, action flick of the Summer" as it incorporates every possible corny movie scenario including:

1. Old Vets coming back to save the day when no one else could
2. Avenging one's brother
3. The American v. Japanese rivalry and eventual overcoming in the face of danger
4. Rebel turning respectable hero


It was ok for what it was.

Wait. Are these aliens manga bots from the future?

[Griff]

Worst than John Carter?

Yes/......WAY WORSE than John Carter.

[Jmacq1]

Hell to the NO!!!!

Amazing Spider-Man will probably be neck and neck the Avengers and Dark Knight Rises as far as best opening weekend for Summer 2012. All are expected to reach $800 million in their first four weeks in theaters. G.I. Joe: Retaliation will be a slow creeper with earning an estimated $380 million worldwide for this Summer season.

Nothing is going to beat Avengers opening weekend this summer. I guarantee it.

The Amazing Spider-Man will do well, but it will probably make less than the Raimi movies. People are already calling bullshit on the reboot factor or jokingly calling it "Spider-Man Begins" because it's being portrayed as dark and angsty enough to make "emo Peter" from Spider-Man 3 look chipper. The previews are slowly changing minds, but it's not going to top the box office this summer. There's very little genuine excitement for the movie compared to The Avengers or The Dark Knight Rises or even Prometheus (though the excitement for Prometheus is generally confined to those that understand what the combination of "Ridley Scott" and "Science Fiction" has produced in the past).

The Dark Knight Rises will probably not be as successful as The Dark Knight, but it will still probably clock in at #2 for the summer a bit behind Avengers, and all-in-all be a massive hit. Though it has the benefit of being the last of the "mega blockbusters" to release this summer (there's still a couple of "players" in August, but nothing expected to do mega-numbers), which if it manages to surpass Avengers' total box office take, will be the only reason why (without 3D screens it's going to have to play longer and sell a significant number more tickets to match or exceed Avengers totals).

Retaliation is definitely going to be hurt by Spider-Man opening as close as it does, but not -too- badly. However Spider-Man may be what prevents it from doing much better domestically than RoC did, unless Retaliation gets stellar reviews and word of mouth.

Worst than John Carter?

John Carter was actually quite decent. It deserved to do much better than it did. It was far more a marketing misfire than the fault of the movie that it did so poorly. (Well, marketing misfire and a massively inflated budget).

Random Battleship note: Colonel Gregory Gadson, who plays the amputee Army soldier in Battleship, was my first regular assignment (non-training) company commander during my stint in the military. He's a good guy and a good officer (or at least was back then...I'd presume he still is).

[Griff]

Battleship did well overseas. It did about expected domestically, (Not great but OK) I think they knew US audiences wouldn't like it, similar to ROC. Battleship will make its money on rentals & other 2nd chance offerings...

I dunno...I doubt it will attain austin powers-like fame once it hits dvd.


Retaliation is definitely going to be hurt by Spider-Man opening as close as it does, but not -too- badly. However Spider-Man may be what prevents it from doing much better domestically than RoC did, unless Retaliation gets stellar reviews and word of mouth.

Maybe...but new Twilight Spidey (saw previews and it really doesnt look all that good) is gonna have a time. Yah it might open big but i think spidey will be like Facebooks IPO...open strong but fizzle after a few days

[mr_david]

i'm more worried about the fate of chutes & ladders the movie.
If that never sees the light of day i'll be bummed.
lol!

[ChaplainAsst]

Spider-Man won't be the blockbuster the first Spider-Man movie was. This movie has some flaws that fans aren't likely to be quite so forgiving. As a whole, it looks like the writers and director made a movie based more on the previous movies and not on the comic at all. I mean, Peter Parker was never cool, never well liked in high school, was not tall, and I can't recall him having a girlfriend until college.

It might be a great movie and may indeed do well, but rebooting after the previous trilogy that - while flawed - did a great job of creating a big screen Spider-Man is not necessarily the recipe for success. Batman and Superman both waited over a decade to reboot.

[Griff]

Nothing is going to beat Avengers opening weekend this summer. I guarantee it.

The Amazing Spider-Man will do well, but it will probably make less than the Raimi movies. People are already calling bullshit on the reboot factor or jokingly calling it "Spider-Man Begins" because it's being portrayed as dark and angsty enough to make "emo Peter" from Spider-Man 3 look chipper. The previews are slowly changing minds, but it's not going to top the box office this summer. There's very little genuine excitement for the movie compared to The Avengers or The Dark Knight Rises or even Prometheus (though the excitement for Prometheus is generally confined to those that understand what the combination of "Ridley Scott" and "Science Fiction" has produced in the past).

The Dark Knight Rises will probably not be as successful as The Dark Knight, but it will still probably clock in at #2 for the summer a bit behind Avengers, and all-in-all be a massive hit. Though it has the benefit of being the last of the "mega blockbusters" to release this summer (there's still a couple of "players" in August, but nothing expected to do mega-numbers), which if it manages to surpass Avengers' total box office take, will be the only reason why (without 3D screens it's going to have to play longer and sell a significant number more tickets to match or exceed Avengers totals).

Retaliation is definitely going to be hurt by Spider-Man opening as close as it does, but not -too- badly. However Spider-Man may be what prevents it from doing much better domestically than RoC did, unless Retaliation gets stellar reviews and word of mouth.

I tell you this now.....if Channing Tatum gets blown into TATUM TOTS in the begining when the joes get ambushed the rest of the movie could suck and i will recommend this movie to everyone i know :D that scene alone will make this movie worth it! :D

[SonOfMindbender]

I don't think it's doomed but it's still the sequel to a bad movie coming out on a holiday weekend before SPIDERMAN. We care as Joe collectors and sometimes forget the other people out there really don't have the investment in the move/toyline like we do. Even if it gets good reviews and people love it, less than 5 days later Spiderman opens and when the buzz dies on Spidy, Batman opens. I will go on the record now and state...this movie has been destined to do poorly in the USA. It will do good worldwide, just not here. If I'm wrong, please feel free to rub this in my face.

[Crimson Rage]

I know you'll probably hate me for saying so, but I thought Dark of the Moon was a far better movie than the previous three.

Nope. Unlike certain people here, I will never base my opinion of a person on the films they like. And you're right: Of the three films, DOTM certainly had the most "TF-like" plot... but the AWFUL attempts at humour and the rather fractured action of the final hour soured my appreciation of it.

[Krooklyn Dodger]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

Totally pointless discussion. Just because Battleship is another Hasbro film porject, doesn't mean s**t. GI Joe has a much different fan base. Battleship has never been explored in any medium aside from the game and now the movie. GI Joe is toys, games, animation, comics, film, etc.

[grunt0341]

Mindless fun action...'popcorn' flicks meant to be fun and a distraction from everyday bullshit...I haven't seen it, but I'm going to see it. Steelgrave has a point and this reminds me Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back ( Movie Poop Chute ) :)...and an earlier post about Navy vs Aliens just sounds dumb...ok?! Marines vs Aliens always works!

[polyphenus]

Yes. Hit the panic button and move on.

Just kidding, I'm not worried. But you can still feel free to hit that panic button and move along.

[DESTRO]

Battleship is "failing" because it's bad. It lacks cohesion, a plot and any sense.



I'm just glad they got your money. Fail!

[Griff]

Mindless fun action...'popcorn' flicks meant to be fun and a distraction from everyday bullshit...I haven't seen it, but I'm going to see it. Steelgrave has a point and this reminds me Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back ( Movie Poop Chute ) :)...and an earlier post about Navy vs Aliens just sounds dumb...ok?! Marines vs Aliens always works!

Provided those said marines are in space and have smart guns and pulse rifles, though next go around can do without the screaming kid? :D

[Xsoldier]

The Rock says Retaliation will be a success. All those candy asses who want to see a teenager in a spider suit can just suck on a monkey's nipple while the peoples' Roadblock unleashes a can of whoop ass on some snakes....ninja style.

Seriously though. Dwayne Johnson and Bruce Willis are what will push Retaliation more into the mainstream than RoC was.

So is anybody buying the boardgame based off of the movie....based off of a board game?

[MSU44]

No action move should have thought about being released for 3 weeks after Avengers. Had battleship opened a month earlier or later it probably would have done a little better.

[Shipwreck]

The Rock says Retaliation will be a success. All those candy asses who want to see a teenager in a spider suit can just suck on a monkey's nipple while the peoples' Roadblock unleashes a can of whoop ass on some snakes....ninja style.

Seriously though. Dwayne Johnson and Bruce Willis are what will push Retaliation more into the mainstream than RoC was.

So is anybody buying the boardgame based off of the movie....based off of a board game?

bought two! heh.. might go get a third! seriously. you do have a point about Johnson and Willis pushing the film into new heights. But I honestly don't understand how Battleship even got remotely affiliated with the Joes.. bought as bad as cowboys and Aliens relates to a western UFO spotting ID4.

[Xsoldier]

You know in 1890 there was a UFO sighting in tombstone AZ.

[Crazy Legs]

Battleship is "failing" because it's bad. It lacks cohesion, a plot and any sense. The movie is just ridiculous.

It made sense, what were you expecting? Eastern Promises or In Bruges? It's an action movie.


Go see it and I think you may agree. There are very few redeeming qualities in this movie. The acting, it horrible. The Alien effects are just silly and they seeming have no purpose...why are they here? What are they here to accomplish? For that matter what is anyone out here to accomplish?

They explained several times that Aliens coming to earth was going to be like the conquistadors coming to the new world several times. Several times. They also showed what one of the aliens was thinking through some telepathy thing.


The whole concept is preposterous, such as resurrecting the Missouri, just to have it blown up. I can't believe the US Navy even allowed that. It said to me our current forces are ill equipped to handle a hopping alien ship and a 70 year old battleship and 100 year old men are gonna show them aliens what for. Really? It's a shame to expose and humiliate our Navy in this way...even for fantastical theater.

It wasnt blown up, the rear guns were destroyed.
And do remember that they were inside the dome and needless to say.... after the first attack the Navy knew what to expect.


Sure the movie was visually stunning, and had Liam Neeson...for about 5 minutes but thats all it had. Avengers has proved to be a very good movie, just because Marvel and established super heros do well at the box office.

So wait...Avengers is good because there were other movies dealing with the character in that movie? I dont understand this.

[orezona]

"But...but... Battleship did GREAT overseas!" doesn't say much when the overseas markets are also into Scheiße films and tentacle porn.

http://imgur.com/OCLzJ.gif

I can think of thousands of better ways to spend my money than wasting it watching Battleship. I know that I suddenly have a craving for bananas...

[vkat7phish]

I'm not worried about Retaliation's success due to Battleship's failure at the box office. Retaliation has a much bigger fan base in Joe fans. Battleship has nothing besides perhaps a fleeting sense of nostalgia for the board game. While Battleship looks entertaining, The Avengers is just plowing through the competition right now. Maybe MIB3 will knock it from No. 1 this week. I am more worried about Spider-Man as it comes out the same week and ultimately Batman a couple of weeks later. Retaliation has to make big bucks it's first week as I'm not so sure it will have longevity with all the other competition.

[Xsoldier]

not to mention battleship is one of the worst board games ever. It is all about marking all of your opponents strikes and moving your two slot ship around so your opponent never finds it...until you win.

[Indiana Joe]

I didn't know it was even out yet.

No, it has nothing to do with Retaliation.

From the trailer, it looks like a combo of TF and G.I.Joe- without any TF's or Joe's

[darthmaul1]

Nope not worried. Retaliation looks to be more fun than ROC and I enjoyed that one. I would like to see avengers beat out MIB 3 this weekend. Battleship looks like it could be fun but I will wait and rent it.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

The difference is, that most fans are actually looking forward to see Retaliation. It looks worlds better than ROC, and not so bland and made-up as Battleship.

[CliffSteele]

Here's the problem. I actually thought Battleship lools kind of cool. As ridiculous as it is to have Liam Neeson play an American admiral w/ an Irish accent, I still generally like his movies. I'm not a Rihanna fan, but I think she's hot and like the idea of seeing her fight. I also like that they have an actual wonded soldier (he has no legs below the knee) in an empowering role.

However, this wasn't enough to make me get off my ass and go see it on opening weekend and I had plenty of time. It needed something more.

Now how many times have you watched or made someone else watch a Retaliation trailer? How many people you showed it to didn't smile? Yeah, I don't think you can come close to making a decision about how Retaliation will do based off of the performance of Battleship. Plus, Battleship doesn't have (arguably) 48 years of lore and backstory to pull people in.

[Crimson Rage]

"But...but... Battleship did GREAT overseas!" doesn't say much when the overseas markets are also into Scheiße films and tentacle porn.
...

Way to dismiss... the rest of the world.

[Xenos]

Way to dismiss... the rest of the world.

There is a point to be made though that the studio makes much less money off the foreign gross then the domestic, since they have to split it up with the foreign distributors.
Also, while $200 million is a lot of money, for a big budget film it's not exactly a huge foreign take. Other movies this year that have made a similar amount overseas are Wraith of the Titans 2 and Journey 2, and they will both probably have similar domestic takes to Battleship, right around $100 million. The big difference is that those two movies cost between $50-$100 million less to make.

[Shin Densetsu]

Nope. The crew on Retaliation was determined to make a good movie out of the ashes of ROC, so I think Retaliation is in good hands.

[Griff]

Nope. The crew on Retaliation was determined to make a good movie out of the ashes of ROC, so I think Retaliation is in good hands.

I'm inclined to agree...it will be better than RoC but to what degree i am unsure.

[Raysohood]

It's Projected to make 48 million opening weekend by Boxoffice.com.

Here is the article

Long Range Forecast: 'G.I. Joe: Retaliation', 'Magic Mike', 'Madea's Witness Protection', & 'People Like Us'

Featured Stories - on May 05, 2012 by BOXOFFICE Staff

june29.pngWe've added four new releases to our Long Range Forecast this week: G.I. Joe: Retaliation, Magic Mike, Tyler Perry's Madea's Witness Protection, and People Like Us.

The last time the calendar fell on the same dates was in 2007 when Ratatouille and Live Free or Die Hard opened to $47 million and $33.4 million, respectively. The latter opened on the preceding Wednesday. The overall market gross for that pre-Independence Day weekend reached $155.4 million.

G.I. Joe: Retaliation

PROS:

- Adding Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson to a cast has recently proven to be of benefit in Fast Five and Journey 2: The Mysterious Island.
- Channing Tatum is a bigger draw now than he was for the first film back in 2009, having starred in two of the top five films of 2012 so far (as of this writing).
- Opening before the July 4th holiday could help give it some extra traction.
- The shift in tone from the first film might attract older action fans and widen the demographic appeal.
- The trailers have been very well-received online.

CONS:

- While not universally hated, the first film isn't something that most have clamored for a sequel to.
- The marketing seems less kid-friendly, a huge change from the promotional tone of its predecessor.
- The kiddie audience that helped drive the first film will have a lot of other options in the marketplace: Brave and Madagascar 3 will already be in release, while The Amazing Spider-Man and Ice Age: Continental Drift will be hot on its heels.
- The extent of Channing Tatum's role in this sequel seems to be up in the air. His female fans will likely opt to see Magic Mike instead.
Long Range Forecast: 'G.I. Joe: Retaliation', 'Magic Mike', 'Madea's Witness Protection', & 'People Like Us' — Boxoffice.com (http://www.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2012-05-long-range-forecast-gi-joe-retaliation-magic-mike-madeas-witness-protection-people-like-us)

Opening June 29 prediction.
1.G.I. Joe: Retaliation-48 Million
2.Magic Mike 22 million
3.Tyler Perry 19 million
4:People Like us 6 million.

It's safe.

[MeLikeJinx]

^ Whoa. They expect Magic Mike to do 20+ mil? Damn. I bet Retaliation breaks 50 million easy on opening week.

[grunt0341]

...and Battle: Los Angeles-Marines :)...anyway, it was driving me crazy hearing my female friends and coworkers going on about the Rock and how they were going to see Retaliation because of him; whatever sells more tickets...

[ShockVal]

C-5

[Crimson Rage]

Double post

[Crimson Rage]

There is a point to be made though that the studio makes much less money off the foreign gross then the domestic, since they have to split it up with the foreign distributors.
Also, while $200 million is a lot of money, for a big budget film it's not exactly a huge foreign take. Other movies this year that have made a similar amount overseas are Wraith of the Titans 2 and Journey 2, and they will both probably have similar domestic takes to Battleship, right around $100 million. The big difference is that those two movies cost between $50-$100 million less to make.

I meant more in terms of a dismissal of our taste rather than box office clout.

Nope. The crew on Retaliation was determined to make a good movie out of the ashes of ROC, so I think Retaliation is in good hands.

You honestly think everyone involved in RoC said "right guys, let's make a BAD movie!".

Actually, don't bother answering... I think some of you really do think that...

[ShockVal]

B-2

[Steevy Maximus]

Eh, I still think Retaliation could be a surprise hit, and I think it will do better than RoC (especially overseas).

Maybe I'm just more excited for Retaliation than I was for RoC, but I think the estimates are on the conservative side and I feel there IS a "cool factor" and a uniquness (compared to the other CGI-fied and superhero films out in the summer) that I think will bring in audiences.
While not as kid focused (as stated in the BOM post), neither was the Transformers film...which sold a shit-ton of toys.
I don't think that will happen with Joe (I'd like it to), but I do think the box office will be better than the current estimates.

[Crazy Legs]

Ok so now we know some one was scared. Too bad that this some one are persons in charge of the flick.... see you next year!

[RolandofGilead]

Looks like I was wrong on this point. I was sure Hasbro knew the difference between a long lasting and beloved franchise and a board game getting the "transformers treatment" but I guess I was wrong.

Stupid heads.

[pdaaat]

Battleship was panned overseas as well.

[Sturm Shadow]

Looks like Paramount is indeed scared about Retaliation after The Avengers sank their Battleship at the box office. ;)

[Bionic Commando]

Wow and I originally thought this thread had no relevance and look what happens!

[Flint Faireborn]

Wow and I originally thought this thread had no relevance and look what happens!

^This.

[Crimson Rage]

I'm still not 'scared' for Retaliation though. Not as if it'll never see the light of day...
Might not do our chances for GI JOE 3 much good though.

[TYPHUS]

C-5

B-2



You..........you............sank my GI Joe Retaliation!!!!!

[ero]

I didn't know it was even out yet.

No, it has nothing to do with Retaliation.

Alright everybody, time to eat crow.

[Adamantite]

Damn you OP and your foresight.

[blackbarn]

Wow and I originally thought this thread had no relevance and look what happens!

Ha, yeah I never would have dreamed they would do THIS. I thought the thread here was more "worried Joe will not make much money" so I shrugged it off. Good grief... what a mess.

[Griff]

CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT WHERE ARE YOU?!!! haha

[MeLikeJinx]

Damn it! They should have just released G.I. Joe Retaliation first... then it probably would have been Battleship that got delayed 9 months... nobody would have cared except the diehard boardgame guys. LOL.

[eddy-arashikage]

CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT WHERE ARE YOU?!!! haha

eer what we needed to ahve done was...

[CG23]

This thread has an eerie foreshadowing aspect to it lol

[oliverbox]

I saw it and i thought it was ok but damn.....no one went to see it. It just made 25 mil, that nothing really.

You're a genius. Where are you getting your intel?
Why couldn't any of us see this?

I feel like Julia Roberts at the end of "Conspiracy Theory"... you were right again, Mel Gibson.

[dgnr82]

this is the problem right here......
Paramount actually thought Battleship was gonna do well, but yet thinks Retaliation is gonna do bad? look at the premises of the movies....and the casts. Which do you think would do better.

Lets see, Battleship had Rihanna and Liam Neeson. Retaliation has The Rock and Bruce "f*n" Willis. Uh,..no question in my eyes.

Hey Paramount,...have some faith in the better movie. It's not our fault you made that other piece of shit Battleship.

[TTT]

Will dubstep still be cool in spring '13 ?

[oliverbox]

this is the problem right here......
Paramount actually thought Battleship was gonna do well, but yet thinks Retaliation is gonna do bad? look at the premises of the movies....and the casts. Which do you think would do better.

Lets see, Battleship had Rihanna and Liam Neeson. Retaliation has The Rock and Bruce "f*n" Willis. Uh,..no question in my eyes.

Hey Paramount,...have some faith in the better movie. It's not our fault you made that other piece of shit Battleship.

I remember seeing the previews for Battleship and I said to my wife "What are they thinking? No one wants to see a boardgame as a movie... well, not a game like Battleship. This is quite possibly the worst idea for a major movie I've ever heard of."

[SportsandStuff]

I think with Avengers killing tickets sales for Dark Shadows and Battleship they didn't want Retaliation competing against it.

[hurricane]

I didn't know it was even out yet.

No, it has nothing to do with Retaliation.

actually, now we know that Battleship had everything to do with Retaliation

[BEAM]

Am I missing something? I don't see the correlation between Battleship and Retaliation?

Universal produced Battleship.

Paramount produced GI Joe: Retaliation.

Two separate production companies. The failure of one has no bearing on the projected box office take of the other.

The colossal failure of Battleship didn't scare Paramount. Movies fail all the time. I don't think Paramount gave two shits about Battleship. The failure of Disney's John Carter didn't force Legendary/Warner Bros to change the release date of Wrath of the Titans.

Retaliation had fierce competition right after opening. Spidey and Batman sucking up valuable screens is what firghtened Paramount. The 3D conversion is a red herring.

[Danny]

Please stop this B.S., sign the petition, and spread it to other sites and get as many signatures as possible.

Stop Paramount from delaying and converting G.I. Joe Retaliation Petition (http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-paramount-from-delaying-and-converting-g-i-joe-re.html)

[oliverbox]

Petition signed... I was #21

[DOCHOLIDAY56]

Petition signed... I was #21

your #20 i'm #21


lol!!!


DOC

[theprocess]

This thread is the End of the line. Effing Jinxed it. No pun

[Crazy Legs]

You're a genius. Where are you getting your intel?
Why couldn't any of us see this?

I feel like Julia Roberts at the end of "Conspiracy Theory"... you were right again, Mel Gibson.

Yes, just call me Intel Viper from now on.
Im creating a custom right now!
Maybe Hasbro to apologize to the fans should create quick kitbash line that are fan's choice and include Intel Viper in it!

[oliverbox]

Yes, just call me Intel Viper from now on.
Im creating a custom right now!
Maybe Hasbro to apologize to the fans should create quick kitbash line that are fan's choice and include Intel Viper in it!

Except they'll try to release it through the Club and... well, we know how that will work out.

[Darkseid83]

#24

[speedocub]

All I have to say is that this thread was BAIT!

[bluesparrow]

I have to admit I scoffed at the title of this thread when it was first posted. But OP's instincts were pretty dead on.

Unfortunately.

[dandannunzio]

not at all. In my opinion, Retaliation is doing everything right (except for being pushed back 9 months) will things ever be about the fans and not about the money? ...no probably not. disappointing. of all movies, it has to be the one i've been craving (and im sure many others)

[GeneralxRon]

Piracy Retaliation Movies looking good now..

[Crazy Legs]

Piracy Retaliation Movies looking good now..

Stop saying that.

[Crimson Rage]

I have to admit I scoffed at the title of this thread when it was first posted. But OP's instincts were pretty dead on.

Unfortunately.

Really? I took the OP to be referring to the potential damage to Retialiation's box-office. I doubt even he thought "hmmmm, Battleship's 'poor' performance might push the Joe film BACK!"

[DR.Sin]

For those that have seen the Battleship movie: Was it actually bad? Now I am not looking for a shakespeare type movie, but was the movie any good? I do like shameless popcorn flicks along side better plotted pieces of film work. I do not mind letting my mind go blank for a while to try and salvage a decent story, even out of the worst of them made. Even if the story has been done like beating a dead horse.

Is the movie worth seeing? I liked the John Carter movie, but I heard it did horribly at the box office as well. I don't want to look up critic reviews. I want to know from others that are not so snobby about the kind of movies they may like despite the panning of the movie they have seen. I want to know from an average Joe.

[Colonel Bludd]

Funny how at first, this was one of those useless threads about one thing that has zero to do with the other but now its a legitimate. I actually believe now that the Battleship failure had something to do with the push back. GO figure!!

[VideoViper]

Battleship (didn't see it) but everything about it says wait till DVD.

Joe2 is something I want to see in theatres. Although I can see paramounts POV. (as assine as it is.) Decisions like 3D need to be made at the right time before shooting (reguardless of shooting or converting) Sounds like Paramount sank their Joe Battleship!

[TYPHUS]

For those that have seen the Battleship movie: Was it actually bad? Now I am not looking for a shakespeare type movie, but was the movie any good? I do like shameless popcorn flicks along side better plotted pieces of film work. I do not mind letting my mind go blank for a while to try and salvage a decent story, even out of the worst of them made. Even if the story has been done like beating a dead horse.

Is the movie worth seeing? I liked the John Carter movie, but I heard it did horribly at the box office as well. I don't want to look up critic reviews. I want to know from others that are not so snobby about the kind of movies they may like despite the panning of the movie they have seen. I want to know from an average Joe.

Unlike most of the ladies here who dont seem to have seen it but are apparently the leading experts on Battleship, i ACTUALLY watched it AND *SHOCK HORROR* i actually had the audacity to ENJOY it as well,great action,good actors,a whole lot of explosions and naval action,as well as the most kick-ass double amputee real life soldier you will ever see in ANY movie,the plot,well its the usual aliens want our resources for themselves,the ones in the movie are a scouting group sent to find new resources for the rest. Rihanna is actually a pretty good actress,Taylor Kitsch is good as the pain in the ass who has to turn himself around to save the day,i say go watch it,i loved John Carter too,so maybe we have similar tastes,and you'll love Battleship!!

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

Unlike most of the ladies here who dont seem to have seen it but are apparently the leading experts on Battleship, i ACTUALLY watched it AND *SHOCK HORROR* i actually had the audacity to ENJOY it as well,great action,good actors,a whole lot of explosions and naval action,as well as the most kick-ass double amputee real life soldier you will ever see in ANY movie,the plot,well its the usual aliens want our resources for themselves,the ones in the movie are a scouting group sent to find new resources for the rest. Rihanna is actually a pretty good actress,Taylor Kitsch is good as the pain in the ass who has to turn himself around to save the day,i say go watch it,i loved John Carter too,so maybe we have similar tastes,and you'll love Battleship!!

Everybody that I know who's seen it has said they enjoyed it, and it was much better than they expected.

[BEAM]

Everybody that I know who's seen it has said they enjoyed it, and it was much better than they expected.

The same can be said about John Carter. Those that actually wne tot see it enjoyed it. Problem is not enough people went to make it profitable.

[TYPHUS]

Yep thats what i thought,i was kinda apprehensive,but i really enjoyed it and my G/F did too,its certainly no worse than Independance Day or Battlefield L.A, BUT i do think it suffered purely from being Battleship: The Movie, as people couldnt see how it would work,hell someone on here didnt even grasp the rules of the game,so i can see how they would struggle with the idea of a movie!! And once you actually see the aliens its not so Transformers-ish,the "transformations" you see in the trailer are actually the alien ships weapons systems being deployed(extra terrestrial gunports if you like) but without seeing it in context it does look like they have transforming ships. As someone else said,its just a big,epic,switch brain off and enjoy blockbuster movie, something which people seem to take umbrage at,without even seeing or giving it a chance.

[jmc2915]

it is a shame it failed. i watched it last night and i thought it was awesome. although i might not have been expecting much. but i can't wait to watch it again and get it on dvd