Retaliation Fang Boat in hand Pics.

[tycondrius]

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ok this is my first time getting a stinger aka fang boat since I was a kid and even then my original one was the tigerforce repaint.

This is a nice repaint of an old mold the only non stickers on this are the cobra logos on the storage pods and the bottom of the boat.
the driver is amazing if they could only have made him properly I would army build the heck outa them he really has a feel of the old original Swamp viper from the Arah time. not the AVAC repaint from the POC line.

all in all I give this a solid 7 outa 10

and just for those worried the crapastic launcher is removable just need to find a replacment side cannon can anyone answer me if a vintage stinger cannon will fit the 25th version ?

[snakeeyes566]

Looks awesome! Thanks for the pics!

[MightyMegs]

It should be a crime to sculpt so awesome a figure, and then give it no articulation. Serious jail time.

[Crimson Rage]

Got this a while ago and I pretty much agree with your assessment. The launcher only bothers me in so much as it is, once again, bright red. If the colour was more muted, it could vey easily be explained as some form of torpedo launcher system.

Not sure why they re-cast the engine shroud, making it shorter so the thumb-wheel is acessable, as it creates a bit of a cavity behind the gunner station.

[VideoViper]

I might actually get this.

[Snow Wolf]

Nice! I'll be picking up 2 of these for sure. How much are they?

[tycondrius]

Got this a while ago and I pretty much agree with your assessment. The launcher only bothers me in so much as it is, once again, bright red. If the colour was more muted, it could vey easily be explained as some form of torpedo launcher system.

Not sure why they re-cast the engine shroud, making it shorter so the thumb-wheel is acessable, as it creates a bit of a cavity behind the gunner station.

don't suppose you have one of the other re-relases of this to see if you can swap the cannons ?

[tycondrius]

Nice! I'll be picking up 2 of these for sure. How much are they?

mine cost me $30 with shipping from good ol buddie viperkingom only cuz i tried my luck on the auctions as apposed to the BIN price

[blackphoenix]

The colours on this "fang-boat" seem really good.

The launcher seems too obtrusive for the overall vehicle aesthetics though. Good to know that it is removable.

The sculpt of the figure is so good. Shame, to see such wasted potential.

[tycondrius]

It should be a crime to sculpt so awesome a figure, and then give it no articulation. Serious jail time.
I couldn't agree more what ever design team was chosen for the drivers rule but what ever Marketing guy that said lets make this guy a useless brick needs to be shot

[Disrup]

That looks cool thanks for the pics. I was thinking of picking one up. Now i know for sure i'm going to get 1.

[Syn3sthesia]

That thing actually makes the TRU deco look so much better. No thanks Hasbro.

[RolandofGilead]

I really like the looks of that driver. He would have made a great 25th/ME figure. :(

[The L.O.C.]

This is a nice repaint of an old mold

and just for those worried the crapastic launcher is removable just need to find a replacment side cannon can anyone answer me if a vintage stinger cannon will fit the 25th version ?

Hasbro completely retooled this from scratch for the 25th line. Vintage boats are much smaller than the ones hitting the shelves in recent years.

[skinny]

I really like the looks of that driver. He would have made a great 25th/ME figure. :(

like a Nullifier...

[UNDERCOVER]

looks pretty cool, but I like the 84 version better........ lol

[nighthawk]

The original Water Mocassin cannon probably won't fit, but the 25th Sting Raider one should. If you really want to test the fit of that, just take the one on the left and try it on the right side. I believe the cannons were the same on both sides. Or if the cannons are mirror of each other, then remove the one on the left side and see if the slots are mirror image of each other as well and you'll know. I believe if you have the Sting Raider or the ROC repaint, then you can swap that cannon.

As for this one, if it weren't for those bright red parts, I would probably pick one up, but I just can't get past those bright red parts. However, if the figure was fully articulated, i probably would have bought the vehicle just to get that figure though. Bad move on Hasbro's part.

[Lantern_Lad]

I'll pass, I have the vintage Water Mocassin & the 25th Sting Raider. No need for another. Just like I'll also pass on the repainted (yet again) Awe Striker.

[UNDERCOVER]

I'll pass, I have the vintage Water Mocassin & the 25th Sting Raider. No need for another. Just like I'll also pass on the repainted (yet again) Awe Striker.

yeah, the ninja awe striker blows, how many times can they beat that dead horse.

[The Commander]

Mine sitting in my car ready to be openned later this evening. Can't wait! Thanks for the pics!

[FlintWO2]

It is not bad( minus the huge rocket launcher ), but I will stick to my 2 25th Water Moccasins.

[arashikage tat]

I love the boat, but not too sure how I feel about the 1977 Star Wars figure that comes with it :)

[Xenos]

Do you have a Hazard Viper? If so, how does the driver's head look on that body? Do the orange colors match at all?

[Adamantite]

Shame, that figure could have made an awesome Incinerator.

[RolandofGilead]

like a Nullifier...

That's just what I was thinking.

Is there any articulation at all, or are these plastic statues? I'm just wondering if it'd be worth adding them as Nullifiers for my Iron Grenadier army.

[Lantern_Lad]

I love the boat, but not too sure how I feel about the 1977 Star Wars figure that comes with it :)

Seriously, right!

I know they're trying to "keep costs down", but at least elbow & knee joints.

[jim0680]

How about adding articulation to these drivers and releasing them carded later on.

[drunknmunky]

How about adding articulation to these drivers and releasing them carded later on.

That's easier said than done. The entire body would have to be retooled exactly like a new figure would be. I love this figure a lot but simply hate the lack of articulation. Hasbro tricked us. They cut the articulation on the drivers. So naturally we hate the drivers. But then they release this figure and it has me torn. I'm wondering if he will even be with displaying or if he will look better with just his helmet poking out of the boat.

[katdan847]

What a piece of shit....I don't think I'm buying any vehicles from this line and maybe a half dozen figs from wave's 1 and 2 (opening them of course). I'll take all of wave 3 and 4 though....and 5 if they actually make them. It's a shame too....everything from 25th and on I've collected all of it and left it carded but how am I supposed to hang this crap on my wall when it's the same package over and over.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to spend all my money on the joecon sets, sdcc stuff and FSS.

Oh yeah, anybody have those dollar general figs they want to give up? Let me know

[Torgos-Pizza]

Glad to see that the POS "launcher" is removable. My PoC Moccasin will donate a cannon as I prefer this version.

[CrimsonGuard101]

It should be a crime to sculpt so awesome a figure, and then give it no articulation. Serious jail time.

Or serious reduction in postion, pay, and loss of company vehicle..if not relegated to Barbie or I love My Pony..I am (0_0) looking at you board of directors...^_^

Dont like the captain america colors...looks like ii belongs in that show not gi joe...

Also on the canons, can the missile launcher go on either side? you could buy 2 (once on clearence) and have one as a missile boat and the other as a gun boat (swapping parts between the 2)

[dmizrok]

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[Havok]

Just is one of the movie line vehicles I was looking forward too. I like the repaint, just not the red launcher. The Water Moccasin was one of my favorite Joe toys as a kid.

[blackbarn]

Looks like the Dreadnoks painted it.

Shame about the driver, he is a cool design but ruined by poor articulation.

My god, I just noticed there are, what... four Cobra insignias per side on this thing? Overkill much???

["SR"]

That Swamp Viper head is too cool for Hasbro not to use it on a real figure in the future. At least I hope so. I only got the vehicles for the figures, so this line saves me a ton of money.

[Dragasses]

I really like the looks of that driver. He would have made a great 25th/ME figure. :(

Do you have a Hazard Viper? If so, how does the driver's head look on that body? Do the orange colors match at all?

Shame, that figure could have made an awesome Incinerator.

That's just what I was thinking.

Is there any articulation at all, or are these plastic statues? I'm just wondering if it'd be worth adding them as Nullifiers for my Iron Grenadier army.

Seriously, right!

I know they're trying to "keep costs down", but at least elbow & knee joints.
can anyone confirm that the heads of these crap drivers actually pop off like the other modern figures?

[Dragasses]

That Swamp Viper head is too cool for Hasbro not to use it on a real figure in the future. At least I hope so. I only got the vehicles for the figures, so this line saves me a ton of money.
wait, what?

you only bought the vehicles for the drivers and that is saving you money? I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm just really confused.

[Beckley]

Awesome pics, that pilot really is cool looking.

[CrimsonGuard101]

wait, what?

you only bought the vehicles for the drivers and that is saving you money? I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm just really confused.

I think hes saying as in the past he got them but wont now and saves money doing so?

[luigi]

i want 2-4 of these just going to strip off the launcher

[DarkHorse]

Hmmm... might get one for my 'Noks. The oversized launcher suits their style.

[luigi]

Hmmm... might get one for my 'Noks. The oversized launcher suits their style.

and totally makes it so much easier for the joes to sneak up from the right side

[tycondrius]

wait, what?

you only bought the vehicles for the drivers and that is saving you money? I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm just really confused.

yup he means the older vehicles from 25th to POC/30th.

can anyone confirm that the heads of these crap drivers actually pop off like the other modern figures?
yup that head is on a balljoint as are all the drivers heads.

to answer some of the other questions he had shoulder swivel and leg swivel and ball jointed head that the lot not even a waist swivel !!

the color is an orangy red so no it doesn't match the toxo-vipers

currently I'm working on a way to make him for articulated (ie replacing 90% of him but trying to keep the torso intact as much as possible )

[Some_Gamer_Dude]

Well, I'm getting one for Copperhead and Zanzibar.

[cobra22nd]

Man. I saw the marvel non articulated drivers at dollar general for $6. I can't believe they charge that much for that junk. This reminds me of revenge of the sith drivers. Very disappointing. GI Joe was always "fully Poseable" now we get 30 year old star wars figures articulation instead. Lame!

[CrocPotMaster]

Put his head on a hazard viper body to start with, that's what I did. Now I just need some orange legs that aren't as baggy. The swamp viper's head isn't as mushy as the Hiss Tank CC's, thankfully, you can't even headswap HIM.

[Valo Sweet 666]

This makes me really glad I picked up the ROC TRU version a few months back. They really should have redone this to match the movie version with the two fans. Easy to see Hasbro aiming at kids 100% and not at all to the collector.

[citizendan1st]

again...im sooo dissappointed with this line.....

[jogunwarrior]

I'm looking forward to getting this! The driver doesn't interest me at all, so I'll give it to my son. The boat look cool as hell though!

[Crimson Rage]

wait, what?

you only bought the vehicles for the drivers and that is saving you money? I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm just really confused.

I presume he means he's only bought vehicles for exclusive drivers in the past, and as these RET drivers are weak, won't be buying any more vehicles (ergo saving money)

[brock Samson]

I have to say, now that I've seen good pics, I'll be picking this up. It's got a better color scheme that fits well with the 80's color aesthetic of the ASP, Ferret and the like. The head of the driver isn't bad, not sure what body to put it on yet but I'm sure it will come to me soon enough.

[Shamac]

Hola, this is awesome! I love it! Hasbro did a very good work

[Fred Broca XIII]

driver's helmet looks like the Chinese stealth helmet from Fallout 3...sting raider will be good for a tiger force custom...but i've already got like 3 of them from my childhood and the 25th, and the last movie (which it wasn't even in)...can we get some "new" recast vehicles that aren't in the movie please?

[Hellion42]

I actually like the coloring on the boat, and I love the look of the pilot. That said, I don't need another Water Moccasin, and want no part of the oversized MASK figures (without the knee articulation, even).

[RolandofGilead]

I like the driver's design a lot. Anyone who doesn't care for it, I will take a couple of these off your hands if you don't want them.

[Cobra Terrorist]

It should be a crime to sculpt so awesome a figure, and then give it no articulation. Serious jail time.

Definitely; that was essentially my first thought too. What a bummer!


I'll probably still get this vehicle though. I love the Water Moccasin/Sting Raider/whateveryouwannacallit.

[Viper6]

stinger? you mean water mocassin i think, stinger was a 4x4 missile truck. sting raider maybe?... didnt they call it that in one incarnation?
anyway i love the fig, hate that hes useless, hed make a good nulifier maybe? the boat looks okay but im not buying another one, if no one wants their driver, i'll buy him.

[Big IV]

That is a decent looking boat driven by two good statues.

[Big IV]

My god, I just noticed there are, what... four Cobra insignias per side on this thing? Overkill much???

"Branding is important for a terrorist organization." -Flint (in a Family Guy episode)

[Draikar]

I like the driver, looks like SWAMP-VIPER / MEGA-VIPER. Why did they remodeled the engine cover ?

[dmizrok]

Man. I saw the marvel non articulated drivers at dollar general for $6. I can't believe they charge that much for that junk. This reminds me of revenge of the sith drivers. Very disappointing. GI Joe was always "fully Poseable" now we get 30 year old star wars figures articulation instead. Lame!

whats a "marvel driver"?

[DarkHorse]

whats a "marvel driver"?

A golf club.

[tycondrius]

whats a "marvel driver"?

well if you were serious the marvel driver is one of the horrid driver/pilot figures from the marvel vehicles from the movie lines that have 5 point articulation and are currently being sold on Marvel universe cards separately for $6

[tycondrius]

just saw this on generaljoes

Adding insult to injury – the origins of the G.I. Joe: Retaliation Swamp-Viper | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/28/adding-insult-to-injury-the-origins-of-the-g-i-joe-retaliation-swamp-viper/)

and it made me cry a little ;( bold hasbro you took somthing that looked amazing and turned it into crap !!

[Scotty97]

omg, I would've bought 10 of whatever vehicle Hasbro decided to put that Clutch figure with. They could pack it with a Cobra Battle Barge for $25 and I'd still be in.

[Crimson Rage]

just saw this on generaljoes

Adding insult to injury – the origins of the G.I. Joe: Retaliation Swamp-Viper | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/28/adding-insult-to-injury-the-origins-of-the-g-i-joe-retaliation-swamp-viper/)

and it made me cry a little ;( bold hasbro you took somthing that looked amazing and turned it into crap !!

Wow... clearly the same design. Squandered!

[Dragasses]

Adding insult to injury – the origins of the G.I. Joe: Retaliation Swamp-Viper | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/28/adding-insult-to-injury-the-origins-of-the-g-i-joe-retaliation-swamp-viper/)


fung.

[eddy-arashikage]

Shit that link showing what could have been just makes the poor design infinately worse!

[dmizrok]

well if you were serious the marvel driver is one of the horrid driver/pilot figures from the marvel vehicles from the movie lines that have 5 point articulation and are currently being sold on Marvel universe cards separately for $6

oooohhh... still confused though, as the only limited articulation 6 dollar marvel figs that IVE seen were spider man capt and iron man....

[Griff]

man so sad...the boat pilot had such potential....the coloring on the mocasin itself is lackluster at best (looks liek dollar store hallow plastic boat prefer the og moccasin colors) but man that pilot woulda been sick with regular articulation.

[tycondrius]

yeah I really don't get hasbro's veiw point on the cost cutting about articulation looks at the examples so far they said that the main reason they cut cost was due to new sculpting so far we've seen two if the new vehicle drivers used figures that had existing figures with standard tooling. IE swamp viper and pilot duke (based on the data viper figure) so Hasbro went and paid sumone more money to scuplt these into 5 point bricks ? wheres the cost cutting on that?

[luigi]

yeah I really don't get hasbro's veiw point on the cost cutting about articulation looks at the examples so far they said that the main reason they cut cost was due to new sculpting so far we've seen two if the new vehicle drivers used figures that had existing figures with standard tooling. IE swamp viper and pilot duke (based on the data viper figure) so Hasbro went and paid sumone more money to scuplt these into 5 point bricks ? wheres the cost cutting on that?

less assembly time i guess

[Dropkick]

I keep going back and forth on whether I'm getting this one or not. I just don't know if I can pull the trigger on it when I finally see it.

[RolandofGilead]

I grabbed one this morning with a $5 off coupon from TRU. The vehicle is ok, but jus t different enough that it makes a unique addition to my Moccasin army.

I know the figure has no articulation, but I love the design. Anyone who hates theirs is welcome to send it my way as I need two more Swamp Vipers for my collection.