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GIJoeFan2012
05-14-2012, 04:48 PM
Does anyone count the 1989 DIC series as canon?
I like some things about the DIC series such as bringing CC back and continuing their adventures, but some of the episodes were a bit stupid and cartoony. The sunbow series was cartoonish, but DIC went overboard with their episodes such as having CC playing baseball with the joes and CC being sent to alcatraz with his COSTUME on lol.

ozzie92
05-14-2012, 04:50 PM
Does anyone count the 1989 DIC series as canon?
I like some things about the DIC series such as bringing CC back and continuing their adventures, but some of the episodes were a bit stupid and cartoony. The sunbow series was cartoonish, but DIC went overboard with their episodes such as having CC playing baseball with the joes and CC being sent to alcatraz with his COSTUME on lol.

HATE HATE HATE it. Do NOT count it as canon.

sithlordsmart
05-14-2012, 04:51 PM
It was a good series for the time it was out.

GIJoeFan2012
05-14-2012, 04:55 PM
By the way, How come Scott McNeil hasn't been approached to voice CC in other GI Joe cartoons? He voiced him later on in the DIC series. He is the only guy who can sound JUST LIKE Chris Latta. Seriously, you can't tell the difference between his voice and Latta's in the DIC series.

nighthawk
05-14-2012, 04:55 PM
I found it fun to watch cause I loved seeing my Joe figures in action. Stories coulda been better of course.

kneroh
05-14-2012, 04:59 PM
HATE HATE HATE it. Do NOT count it as canon.

Don't tell me you count the Sunbow as cannon?


Like when aliens drop time travelling cones that send GI Joe back to ancient greece... that's cannon?!

crock master
05-14-2012, 05:00 PM
It was a good series for the time it was out.

yeah ! right! then explain why everybody else was watching TNMT

atomsmasher
05-14-2012, 05:33 PM
I watched both. DIC GI Joe, Real Ghost Busters, King Arthur and his knights of Justice, Cowboys of Moo Mesa, Bikers Mice from Mars, Double Dragon, Batman, Spiderman, X-men, Iron man oh that was the time compared to today these cartoons stink!

Raw Dog
05-14-2012, 05:40 PM
I love the DiC series. I think it's great. I also like Sunbow, Marvel, RoC, Extreme, Sgt Savage, Sigma 6, and VvV/ Spytroops. To me it is all canon even though some of it contradicts other aspects of it. Anything produced by an officially licensed source is canon IMO. I mean, I may have to tweak it a bit in my own head in order to make it work, but yeah, it all definitely happened. Got to get tough, lol!

Jettfire
05-14-2012, 05:45 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc367/johnjett1/0066t95b.jpg

Misspelled, but the sentiment is there.

Nemesis*Prime
05-14-2012, 05:48 PM
50/50.

I love the inclusion of the new characters and equipment that came after in the later years, but the quality of the animation and a lot of the scripting makes me cringe.

Raw Dog
05-14-2012, 05:58 PM
The 2nd DVD should be out soon! I can't wait! I hope they put Extreme out afterwards.

Crimson Rage
05-14-2012, 06:07 PM
Like it a lot, for the most part. Nice & colourful, great theme tune, Alley Vipers, Laser Vipers, Range Vipers... all got good showings. I liked seeing the Cobra Hurricanes in action.

Was it 'canon'? As there are so many different media and continuities, we can't say there is one true 'canon', but I definately consider it a legit sequel to the Sunbow show set in the same universe. It fixed the abomination that was the animated movie and for that I'll always be grateful!

Things I'm not too keen on are:

The rather small cast (it really does give the impression that the
on-screen Joes are the only ones who exist, sometimes).

The choice of Joes. Obviously, the series had to feature characters that were toys at the time. Sadly, those characters just weren't as interesting as what's gone before, but I can't blame DiC for having the likes of Ambush and Pathfinder foisted on them. If DiC Joe had featured a 'classic' Flint, Stalker, Snake Eyes and other '84-86 Joes, a lot more fans would acknowledge it.

I also hated the fact that Gnawgahyde appeared as Cobra Commander's second in command so often... he was a useless character at the best of times, but replacing the likes of Destro & the Baroness with him? Terrible!

But, still got a lot of enjoyment out of the series. I'll take the knowing absurdities of "Granny Dearest" over the god-awful meanderings of Sunbow's "Lasers in the Night", for example.

ChaplainAsst
05-14-2012, 06:11 PM
The stories were terrible but you get to see some classic characters in action. To be fair, the Sunbow stories weren't great to begin with - looking back, I should say - but they got kids excited about the toys, and that was the entire purpose of the cartoons as far Hasbro was concerned.

tigerclaw
05-14-2012, 06:12 PM
I liked it to me it was a way to bring in the new joes and keep the line alive.

Raw Dog
05-14-2012, 06:16 PM
My older brother quit Joe collecting between Sunbow and DiC so DiC always felt like it belonged just to me, if that makes sense. I especially loved Pathfinder and Ambush. They were 2 of my favorite Joes from the series.

Steevy Maximus
05-14-2012, 06:28 PM
The choice of Joes. Obviously, the series had to feature characters that were toys at the time. Sadly, those characters just weren't as interesting as what's gone before, but I can't blame DiC for having the likes of Ambush and Pathfinder foisted on them. If DiC Joe had featured a 'classic' Flint, Stalker, Snake Eyes and other '84-86 Joes, a lot more fans would acknowledge it.

Dude, Snake Eyes got more legitimate focus in the second season of DiC than he did in the entire Sunbow run. And at some point, both Flint AND Stalker had significant roles in the DiC run (STalker in Operation Dragonfire, Flint got a big focus in season 2 to promote Eco-Warriors).
Not to mention Duke getting several prominent appearances before returning full time.

I feel I need to argue this point: by the time DiC was being made a LOT of those "Classic Joes" were gone from retail. DiC's purpose was never to be "canon" with Sunbow, it was to promote the toys AT RETAIL. And with that...if things had been reversed, if guys like Freefall and Ambush were done in 85, you'd probably be among the people bitching they weren't being used in favor of knock offs like Ripcord!
Fans have an affinity for Sunbow because THAT is what most grew up with, doesn't make the later figures or characters any more "useless" than guys like the Dreadnoks or Bazooka.


For me, I don't "love it", nor do I hate it. I do have an affinity for it (DiC being my main Joe series as a kid), and will readily buy the next boxset.
But to be honest, DiC is no worse than Sunbow was, except with most here not having that childhood nostalgia of DiC (and Sunbow having better production values all around).
But I do recognize the show (however mediocre it was, even at the time) probably did a LOT to re-energize the Joe brand in 1989. You don't have to like it, but I find it hard to cite it as Joe's "deathknell" when it probably helped the brand go until 1994.

ndb
05-14-2012, 06:44 PM
Don't tell me you count the Sunbow as cannon?


Like when aliens drop time travelling cones that send GI Joe back to ancient... that's cannon?!

Amen! I actually can enjoy DiC much more than Sunbow. Dic seems more like animaniacs to me.

Griff
05-14-2012, 06:53 PM
I found it fun to watch cause I loved seeing my Joe figures in action. Stories coulda been better of course.

This. The animation was subpar compared to sunbow and the stories really became stay off drugs be kind to animals psas liek most every other cartoon was int he 90's (the downfall of fun cartoons and the rise of eco garbage crap!...thanks captain planet!)

GIJoeFan2012
05-14-2012, 07:14 PM
Did anyone notice cobra was 100% loyal to CC than in the sunbow series? lol how many fans pretended that CC killled MindBinder off screen as an example of those who oppose him?

Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
05-14-2012, 07:30 PM
Well its hard to say, I think it comes down to this. Both Sunbow and DIC had their share of over the top campy moments. But I think the main issues are that DIC simply does not have many classically cool moments that stand out.

As an example we can all likely mention any of a dozen moments in Sunbow we love....but DIC....its a bit harder to come up with cool moments.

I recently watched all the eps of both series and from DIC I really can only give you many cool moments.

Headman
05-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Does anyone count the 1989 DIC series as canon?
I like some things about the DIC series such as bringing CC back and continuing their adventures, but some of the episodes were a bit stupid and cartoony. The sunbow series was cartoonish, but DIC went overboard with their episodes such as having CC playing baseball with the joes and CC being sent to alcatraz with his COSTUME on lol.

I count it as canon. I also count it as awesome.

ZEITGEIST
05-14-2012, 10:59 PM
my son loves these episodes. his FAVORITE part is the music. "got to get tough, yo joe!"

they are good enough i can watch them. chris latta cobra commander really helps a lot.

ozzie92
05-14-2012, 11:23 PM
Don't tell me you count the Sunbow as cannon?


Like when aliens drop time travelling cones that send GI Joe back to ancient greece... that's cannon?!

Ha, ha! Actually, I do not count any of the cartoons as cannon. I'm a comic book guy. But you could find some pretty stupid stuff in the comics, too, so nothing's perfect. ;)

bloth
05-14-2012, 11:35 PM
I love how Destro dumped the Baroness for Zarana! Classic!

1982
05-14-2012, 11:36 PM
Indifferent, the cartoons are kind of like masterbating with a cheesegrader okay for five seconds after that it's just painful.

Darth Awgmon
05-14-2012, 11:44 PM
It's fucking awful. Sunbow wipes its ass with the DIC series.

Headman
05-15-2012, 12:47 AM
DiC is AWESOME!

sithlordsmart
05-15-2012, 01:10 AM
yeah ! right! then explain why everybody else was watching TNMT

I liked the TMNT figures, but the show I thought was lame.

Headman
05-15-2012, 01:34 AM
TMNT and DIC were both AWESOME!

ROC Solid Snake
05-15-2012, 03:00 AM
It's fucking awful. Sunbow wipes its ass with the DIC series.

Quoted for truth

Crimson Rage
05-15-2012, 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Darth Awgmon
It's fucking awful. Sunbow wipes its ass with the DIC series.

Hmmm, convincing 'argument'... think I'll change my mind based on that alone.

Paul Agnew
05-15-2012, 08:30 PM
Personally?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4750536203_70c7ce8720.jpg

Or at least the 2-part stories, where they get a chance to flesh out the characters and plot.

Crimson Rage
05-17-2012, 02:49 PM
Fatal Fluffies, ghosts, giant parrots, Egyptian gods, reanimated dinosaurs, clockwork soldiers, solid gold helicopters, Joes turned into kids & animals, giant stone statues coming to life, parallel dimensions, brainwashing perfume, breakdancing Joes, wolves in costumes, Cobra fish-women, giant fruit & vegetables, aliens...?

Yeah DiC, sucked!!! ...oh, wait.

jogunwarrior
05-17-2012, 09:07 PM
DIC was awesome for what it was. Yes the animation was sub par to Sunbow and many of the stories has some cringe inducing moments of goofy camp, but where else will you see the General, Slaughters Marauders, Eco Warriors, Ninja Force and Kindergarten Commandos in action?
Nowhere.

kneroh
05-17-2012, 09:08 PM
7 beers and whatever else you fancy, it's high art.

Star Saber
05-18-2012, 05:15 AM
DIC was awesome for what it was. Yes the animation was sub par to Sunbow and many of the stories has some cringe inducing moments of goofy camp, but where else will you see the General, Slaughters Marauders, Eco Warriors, Ninja Force and Kindergarten Commandos in action?
Nowhere.

^ This.

As a kid, I couldn't really tell there was a great dropoff in animation and storytelling, but it was awesme to see new Joes onscreen. It definitely had its moments.

CobraCrimson
05-18-2012, 07:35 AM
Does anyone count the 1989 DIC series as canon?
I like some things about the DIC series such as bringing CC back and continuing their adventures, but some of the episodes were a bit stupid and cartoony. The sunbow series was cartoonish, but DIC went overboard with their episodes such as having CC playing baseball with the joes and CC being sent to alcatraz with his COSTUME on lol.

CC playing baseball with the Joes? Where is this in season 2? He played football against Cap. Grid-Iron and co. but baseball?

DIC was awesome for what it was. Yes the animation was sub par to Sunbow and many of the stories has some cringe inducing moments of goofy camp, but where else will you see the General, Slaughters Marauders, Eco Warriors, Ninja Force and Kindergarten Commandos in action?
Nowhere.

Um....kindergaten Commandos were in Sunbow cartoons, lol

So far, the DiC series season 1 isn't bad, but not great either. Neither was Sunbow great with all the errors in animation but it's what I grew up with (actually, if we're still collecting these toys now, did we ever really grow up?) and remember so it's my personal favorite series. I never knew the DiC series even existed until the DVD box set was released recently. And now that NetFlix has Renegades on it for streaming, I really like Renegades a lot!

On a side note, Transformers Prime is just as good as Renegades too, thought I'd never say that.

lazlo76
05-19-2012, 12:03 AM
Operation Dragonfire was decent enough but the rest of the series was just plain over the top in it's stupidity and dumbing down the characters as goofballs and shocking too to realize that a few of the writers from Sunbow also contributed to episodes, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED??!!

About the only smart thing was retaining Chris Latta as CC. Basically what it comes down to it is that I consider DIC as an alternate Joe universe.

Headman
05-19-2012, 01:51 PM
Dic was better than the original comic.

IRON VIPER
05-19-2012, 02:07 PM
Although I do not think the Dic series was as good as the Sunbow series I do think it was an important part of Joe History. You know the Dollar General Joes we are all going out and trying to find, well the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow designs were you used on the Dic series if I remember correctly. Battle Armor Cobra Commander, Tiger Force, Python Patrol, etc all came from the Dic series.

Headman
05-19-2012, 04:02 PM
It was the best!

cobracobra
05-19-2012, 04:09 PM
Cannot stand

Headman
05-19-2012, 04:11 PM
Ahhh! Ghosts!

Snow Wolf
05-19-2012, 04:13 PM
I never ever watched it. I have been trying to find it in Future Shop and Best Buy up here, but it has proven elusive so far.

Is it worth picking up?

Angry.Android
05-19-2012, 07:20 PM
Bah, hated it.

Man, as a small kid i liked the Sunbow toon, but that one was 'tarded as well.

Headman
05-20-2012, 12:46 AM
Bah, hated it.

Man, as a small kid i liked the Sunbow toon, but that one was 'tarded as well.

I know, right? So was the comic. The comic was the worst.

Paul Agnew
05-25-2012, 12:27 AM
I know, right? So was the comic. The comic was the worst.

The Sunbow cartoon had a comic?

Headman
05-25-2012, 03:49 AM
The Sunbow cartoon had a comic?

There was a little comic marvel did for about a decade where everything was all over dramatic and everybody turned into Ninjas. Also cool characters were treated like crap because the writer didn't like being told who to use by the people who actually owned the characters.

Indiana Joe
05-25-2012, 04:15 PM
HATE HATE HATE it. Do NOT count it as canon.

It's fucking awful. Sunbow wipes its ass with the DIC series.

Quoted for truth

Hmmm, convincing 'argument'... think I'll change my mind based on that alone.

Fatal Fluffies, ghosts, giant parrots, Egyptian gods, reanimated dinosaurs, clockwork soldiers, solid gold helicopters, Joes turned into kids & animals, giant stone statues coming to life, parallel dimensions, brainwashing perfume, breakdancing Joes, wolves in costumes, Cobra fish-women, giant fruit & vegetables, aliens...?

Yeah DiC, sucked!!! ...oh, wait.

Cannot stand

Bah, hated it.

Man, as a small kid i liked the Sunbow toon, but that one was 'tarded as well.

hate!

Rainbow Viper
05-25-2012, 07:49 PM
as a kid I really liked the DIC series over the sunbow one. Even though the quality of animation wasn't as good, it didn't seem that way to me because the colors were much brighter and it just didn't feel so 80s like the other series did. Maybe i'm just subjective because that time period was right when I was getting into gi joe and that cartoon and those toys were out so everything went hand in hand. Operation Dragonfire to me is the best joe cartoon ever. If you think about it, Operation Dragonfire literally had like 4 years worth of toys being advertised. It also did a great job of transitioning back to the status quo after the movie. it was weird though how some episodes focus on some characters that are almost unheard of like cloudburst, clean sweep, etc.

GI abe444
05-25-2012, 08:09 PM
when i was a teenager watching the DIC series it was alright i'll admit. Sunbow was and is always will be my favorite.

GIJoeFan2012
05-25-2012, 09:33 PM
I got a question....Later in the DIC cartoon, CC ditched his armor and wore his hood and old uniform. Why?!?
Did he got tired of that power ranger armor lol.

cobracobra
05-25-2012, 09:54 PM
yeah ! right! then explain why everybody else was watching TNMT

TMNT was light years ahead of GI JOE the DIC series.

EduardimusPrime
05-25-2012, 10:09 PM
don't like sunbow or dic. both are lame.

Paul Agnew
05-28-2012, 08:54 PM
By the way, How come Scott McNeil hasn't been approached to voice CC in other GI Joe cartoons? He voiced him later on in the DIC series. He is the only guy who can sound JUST LIKE Chris Latta. Seriously, you can't tell the difference between his voice and Latta's in the DIC series.

You can certainly tell the difference between their CC's in the Sgt. Savage pilot.

I got a question....Later in the DIC cartoon, CC ditched his armor and wore his hood and old uniform. Why?!?
Did he got tired of that power ranger armor lol.

Probably to sell his new 'Talking Battle Commanders' figure.

grunt0341
05-28-2012, 09:13 PM
I never caught the DIC series, but picked up a few figures that came out of it...watched a couple episodes and holy crap it was awful...but it kept Joe going...so not all bad!

Tazzzman
05-29-2012, 10:01 AM
Loved both and cannot wait for the next dvd set to come out, yup cheese but Salvo was awesome.

Team Jetfire
05-30-2012, 02:46 PM
I never ever watched it. I have been trying to find it in Future Shop and Best Buy up here, but it has proven elusive so far.

Is it worth picking up?

I don't remember it ever being televised in Canada. I was big into GI Joe at that time and I never knew about it unil a few years ago.

Since then I watched a number of Eps on youtube and like seeing the toys of my youth on the small screen. I would not buy it, but It's worth watching for the camp factor.

Crimson Rage
05-30-2012, 03:43 PM
I never ever watched it. I have been trying to find it in Future Shop and Best Buy up here, but it has proven elusive so far.

Is it worth picking up?


As I'm a RISE OF COBRA fan, take my worthless opinion with a pinch of salt, but I really enjoyed the DiC DVD set.

There are some awful episodes ("Pigskin Commandos") and some absurd episodes ("Granny Dearest", "That's Entertainment") and yet the good far outweigh the bad. The "Operation Dragonfire" mini-series, the "Victory at Volcania" 2-parter, "Cold Shoulder", "General Confusion", and (despite the worse than usual animation) "The Mind Mangler" are all excellent instalments (with a nice twist in the latter). My personal favourites are "Night of the Creepers" (awesome!) and "I Found you... Evy" (apart from the fact that the female Range Viper wears pink!!)

I don't like the limited cast (I think season 2 addresses this a bit) and the Cobra hierachy is messed up (way too much Gnawgahyde!) Also, while it's cool to see Range Vipers, Alley Vipers, Sand Scorpions and Incinerators, it's annoying that they're presented as the standard Cobra troops, with regular Blue Shirts and Vipers nowhere in sight.

But I've gone from idle curiosity to genuine excitement for season 2, especially as I have a fondness for the Eco-Force episodes coming in that second batch.

Originally Posted by crock master
yeah ! right! then explain why everybody else was watching TNMT

Because at the end of the day kids are as much drones as adults and tend to watch the 'latest thing' that their mates are watching... The word is "fad".

Crimson Rage
06-30-2012, 03:41 PM
I pre-ordered my DiC season 2 set from Ebay a while back and for some reason it turned up today, in England, no less. Yet the official release date in July 10th... weird.

But anyway, way better than season one in my view.

Angry.Android
06-30-2012, 04:48 PM
hate it and sunbow too.

megatronrules!
07-03-2012, 06:53 AM
I pre-ordered my DiC season 2 set from Ebay a while back and for some reason it turned up today, in England, no less. Yet the official release date in July 10th... weird.

But anyway, way better than season one in my view.

Like it,does season 2 got bonus features?

Crimson Rage
07-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Like it,does season 2 got bonus features?

A single "Retrospective Featurette with the Hasbro Toy Team" on disc three. Haven't watched it yet so don't have a clue what it is exactly.

poddie
07-05-2012, 05:07 PM
I feel I need to argue this point: by the time DiC was being made a LOT of those "Classic Joes" were gone from retail. DiC's purpose was never to be "canon" with Sunbow, it was to promote the toys AT RETAIL. And with that...if things had been reversed, if guys like Freefall and Ambush were done in 85, you'd probably be among the people bitching they weren't being used in favor of knock offs like Ripcord!
Fans have an affinity for Sunbow because THAT is what most grew up with, doesn't make the later figures or characters any more "useless" than guys like the Dreadnoks or Bazooka.

I just don't buy this. I think that one of the things that made us love the "classic" characters was the voice actors, animation, and writing in the Sunbow cartoon. Sure, there were alot of silly stories, but the writers pulled many of them off and the acting and artwork was just so much better. The DIC stuff is so primative that it's just painful... actually makes me like the characetrs much LESS (in other words, I like many of the figures but the cartoons make the characters seem very stupid).

CobraOfficer999
07-05-2012, 05:08 PM
It's allright.

Crimson Rage
07-05-2012, 05:12 PM
Just watched the D.E.F. two-parter and was stunned to see that Headman actually DIED, and of an overdose,no less! Guess the 'drugs are evil' message doesn't get any tougher than that in a kid's cartoon from the 80's.

ndb
07-05-2012, 05:33 PM
It's not as bad as some say it is. I love it, because it's a comedy series. Honestly, it's better than Sunbow. Sunbow was cheesy as could be, but as still supposed to be a serious action series. Dic was meant to be comedy.

lazlo76
07-06-2012, 04:00 AM
A single "Retrospective Featurette with the Hasbro Toy Team" on disc three. Haven't watched it yet so don't have a clue what it is exactly.
It's probably one of those same like the Shout Factory featurettes in which they interview Hasbro employees who had nothing to do with the actual cartoon.

GerjurdKing
07-06-2012, 05:50 AM
I don't remember it ever being televised in Canada. I was big into GI Joe at that time and I never knew about it unil a few years ago.

Since then I watched a number of Eps on youtube and like seeing the toys of my youth on the small screen. I would not buy it, but It's worth watching for the camp factor.

It definitely aired up here - I never forgot the catchy theme song. If my memory serves me (I was 6 or 7 at the time) it aired along with Sunbow reruns.

Although it's a bit more goofy, it's not terrible compared to Sunbow. I just will always prefer the Sunbow era toys/characters, especially the vehicles. I'm currently watching the DVDs with my younger brother and it's been a fun ride. I've order the season 2 discs. Walmart.ca has both seasons available to order with free shipping ($22 and $23, respectively).

Steelgrave
07-06-2012, 06:11 AM
Love it! Just wish they didn't use the same 3 or 4 characters constantly.

Crimson Rage
07-06-2012, 04:06 PM
It's probably one of those same like the Shout Factory featurettes in which they interview Hasbro employees who had nothing to do with the actual cartoon.

Watched it now and yeah, no interviewees actually involved with the DiC series, but the designers do at least talk about the show. One of the current design team (John Warden) mentions how he'd love to do modern era figures of the Night Creeper Leader and Metal Head.


...and, did you now that the Python Patrol vehicle pattern was originally created by stretching a fishnet stocking over a vehicle and spray painting it?? Fancy that...

Running time: 10 minutes.

atomatron
07-06-2012, 04:07 PM
never saw a second of it.

someone point me to a torrent

TheSav1979
07-06-2012, 04:20 PM
I just don't buy this. I think that one of the things that made us love the "classic" characters was the voice actors, animation, and writing in the Sunbow cartoon. Sure, there were alot of silly stories, but the writers pulled many of them off and the acting and artwork was just so much better. The DIC stuff is so primative that it's just painful... actually makes me like the characetrs much LESS (in other words, I like many of the figures but the cartoons make the characters seem very stupid).

Agreed 100%

urrutiap
07-10-2012, 03:16 PM
Is the DIC 1989 GI Joe series the one where they brought back Cobra Commander still in snake form where he got turned into a real snake in the animated GI Joe the movie? That's all I remember about that series and nothing else.

What else went on in the 1989 series anyway?

Headman
07-11-2012, 12:46 AM
Is the DIC 1989 GI Joe series the one where they brought back Cobra Commander still in snake form where he got turned into a real snake in the animated GI Joe the movie? That's all I remember about that series and nothing else.

What else went on in the 1989 series anyway?

Nothing. It went away until the early 90's when pure awesomeness happened. Like a football game played with tanks and of course HEADMAN!

A.C.T.
07-11-2012, 12:50 AM
That show is CaCa!

Jay West
07-11-2012, 01:00 AM
Never seen it. Loved sunbow, but the station I watched the sunbow show on did not carry the dic toon. I knew it was own and remember being super mad that I couldn't watch it. It's the biggest chunk of Joe multimedia that I haven't watched. I should get the DVD's

Headman
07-11-2012, 01:01 AM
Never seen it. Loved sunbow, but the station I watched the sunbow show on did not carry the dic toon. I knew it was own and remember being super mad that I couldn't watch it. It's the biggest chunk of Joe multimedia that I haven't watched. I should get the DVD's

I only if you like animated perfection.

lazlo76
07-13-2012, 03:45 AM
Is the DIC 1989 GI Joe series the one where they brought back Cobra Commander still in snake form where he got turned into a real snake in the animated GI Joe the movie? That's all I remember about that series and nothing else.

What else went on in the 1989 series anyway?
They had the good sense in having Chris Latta back as Cobra Commander but damn the script dialogue just bordered on stupidity often.

Operation Dragonfire was decent everything after that just plain sucks but it's a better effort than G.I.Joe Extreme and Sigma Six.

Bleak5170
07-13-2012, 07:04 AM
It was a good series for the time it was out.

No it wasn't. Saying "for the time it was out" is no excuse. There were many cartoon series which came out before it which were far superior. DiC's G.I. Joe had horrific art and animation, some terrible voice-acting, characters most people didn't care about, and some truly awful story lines. There's really nothing good to say about it.

And no, definitely not canon.

lazlo76
07-13-2012, 11:38 PM
It's interesting to not that while not many of the 80's voice actors returned instead we had up and coming voice actors like Gary Chalk, Richard Newman, Ian Corlett who would later go onto Beast Wars and many other 90's cartoons.

Python_Puckman
07-13-2012, 11:42 PM
I like Operation Dragonfire, but the rest is poo. I just like to watch it for the cheese factor

generic trooper
07-15-2012, 07:49 PM
I like Operation Dragonfire, but the rest is poo. I just like to watch it for the cheese factor

Pretty much this.
I've been watching series 2. They couldn't even sort out Slice and Dice lol.

cardensb
07-15-2012, 08:12 PM
Never seen a single episode. Canon for me are the ARAH comic and the file cards.

Python Viper
08-03-2012, 02:52 PM
...and, did you now that the Python Patrol vehicle pattern was originally created by stretching a fishnet stocking over a vehicle and spray painting it?? Fancy that...

Running time: 10 minutes.

I just watched the special, that is nuts. Dave Kunitz is the godfather of Python Patrol, he is my new idol!! Its awesome that spills the secret right there. But I am still curious as to how they did the pattern in mass production.

Kwobubba
08-03-2012, 03:25 PM
It was goofy as he'll but I loved every minute of it. But canon? Maybe operation dragon fire but not the rest.

c_money_collins
08-03-2012, 08:27 PM
While I agree that it was far inferior to the Sunbow stuff, I still like it. I like it because it's GI Joe even if everything is kind of crappy. I mean, not everything can be Batman: the Animated Series.

Sunblow
08-03-2012, 08:54 PM
The DiC episodes are absolute garbage. I say this as a tremendous fan of the Sunbow cartoon.

Now, I recognize that the Sunbow cartoon has it's own goofy elements (in fact, I write and draw a webcomic that is all about this (G.I. Joe Comic Strip - Half the Battle Main Page | Flush Fido Productions (http://www.flushfido.com/half-the-battle))), but the Sunbow series mixed this goofiness with smart writing, interesting characters and occasional awesome moments. Being goofy is fine, as long as you make it entertaining, which the DiC series was anything but...

Flint Faireborn
08-03-2012, 10:21 PM
Where's the poll?
Any how... I like it not nearly as much as ARAH, but good in it's own right. I own both volumes on DVD, so I like it plenty enough for that.

lazlo76
08-05-2012, 06:10 PM
While I agree that it was far inferior to the Sunbow stuff, I still like it. I like it because it's GI Joe even if everything is kind of crappy. I mean, not everything can be Batman: the Animated Series.
At least the DIC version is watchable crap which the same cannot be same about G.I.Joe Extreme and Sigma Six.

ilzuccone
08-05-2012, 07:36 PM
OH man that's my series! I wouldn't leave for school until it was over!!!!

deadfish
08-08-2012, 11:06 AM
the DIC series....well sucked..really...

THALASTDRAGON
08-08-2012, 11:16 AM
I have the dvds but it's pretty bad. It's extremely corny.